/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>63924577
>>Because, you know, you don't wanna miss the chance to get sniped by a gamer cat maid, or a shooting star, or a festival!
Even SHE thought they were gonna get the big Holo JPs? Fucking kek. And not even Matsuri or Towa made it in.

>>63924577
>you don't wanna miss the chance to get sniped by a gamer cat maid, or a shooting star, or a festival!
Selen's a piece of shit lmfao

>>63924831
how is this selen's fault?? She was not responsible with handling holo side of recruitment.

lmao, she posted this picrel didn't she?

>>63924577
>But then I asked Vanta and originally Reimu, but Reimu already had a team. So someone told me Bobon was looking for a team and that's how we got together.
>I asked males to play with me.
And, there you have it. Le GFE / CGDCT NijisanjiEN girl, from her own words.
Now tell me she was forced into this apex tourney.

>>63924577
Poor girl

>>63925893
I got no dog in this, but you DO realize the entire concept of her trying to be devoid of males is 100% schizo narrative right?
It all happened with Luca's rescheduled collab with TTT being seen as her trying to avoid him, thus birthing this retarded mindset

>>63924577
honestly this is just sad for her
she was hoping for a chance to play with top tier holos and instead she gets mel and ID
>>63925493
Its largely on her for misleading everyone (including, apparently, her coworkers) hyping this up as somr VSaikyo style tournament where every branch would be "represented".

>>63924577
whats a bobon?

>>63926893
monkey/ID homo

>>63926870
I honestly thought it was just going to be EN members on both sides. She’s kind of stupid for thinking jp Hololive girls would join a fucking nijiEN led event, lmfao they have actual concerts and shit to do

>>63926893
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonbon
They're quite tasty. I really like the praline filled ones.

>>63924577
she never said this

>>63926831
So if the timeline is correct.
>Dodges Luca, a niji male
>heralded as NijiEN GFE / cgdct for dodging a male
>Continues to dodge male
>And now she's collabing with male
Am I understanding the narrative right? Because it changes nothing right now.

>>63927066
Cope

>>63927533
Her genmate is a male, and they collabed in their very first week, retard.
She never indicated she was avoiding male vtubers, she just said she's not a fan of any male vtubers and primarily watches girls. Avoiding Luca =/= baiting unicorns.

>>63924577
>expected the big name holos
Kek

>>63927629
Where's the proof then?

>>63926996
It's because Selen originally mentioned every branch of hololive and nijisanji would be represented

>>63927733
>Sister doesn't watch their livers stream

>>63927733
Prooffags are destroying this site

>>63927690
So, why was she heralded as the GFE / cgdct of NijiEN when male collabs weren't off the table?
This is what I want to know.

>>63927787
>no proof
Faggot

>>63927829
Wait for the vod sister
She's still streaming

>>63927897

>>63927804
The culture war has evolved to the point where people need to self-delude themselves into fitting everything into extremes that suit them, even when their own natural instinct is actually far more reasonable.
A lot of people need her to either be for the unicorns, or to own the chuds, and the idea that she might just work professionally with men she gets along with and not work with men that she doesn't is unreasonable for the anons on both sides of the spectrum who need every vtuber to be with or against them.

>>63927789
I prefer to call them spoonfeedmefags

>>63927804
you fell for the meme

>>63924577
We could have gotten Selen vs Aqua and all we get are the third wheels.

>>63928059
The meme that she should totally have been in advent instead of Shiori or Nerissa because she doesn't collab with males? That meme? I think some retards sincerely believed that.

>>63927804
Because she is CGDCT. Even the OP bait is about her being a huge HoloJP fan and sperging out over the girls. Meanwhile 0 mention of Tempiss or Stars or even NijiJP males. She is, and I know this is probably offensive to some unicorns, an ACTUAL fan of cute girls and not just pandering to an audience. She bragged about having a huge collection of Holo and Niji girl merch, and even asked mane-san for a company discount on buying Lazulight and Obsydia merch. If you genuinely are a fan of cute girls doing cute things, and especially all-girl collabs, and not just terrified of males, then she is a good vtuber for you. If you're terrified of males, stick to Holo and Kawaii because no other corpo will pander to you. She'll probably have solo collabs with males in the future, but so far has never indicated any interest in male vtubers. The only males she's really a fan of are Aris from FGC and Kanae from NijiJP.

Even her upcoming Apex collab is not with her teammates but with Reimu and Kotoka instead. She simply doesn't want any kind of hetshipping content on her channel, because she doesn't see men in that way or want that kind of obnoxious audience. Meanwhile when talking about the HoloJP girls and NijiJP senpais she calls herself a pervert, and is even currently lusting over stalking Chihiro in Apex using a scope. Girl is gay as fuck.

>>63928133
Did I miss the memo or was there a team swap? How does she expect to play with another team if they aren't together? Are they wintrading?

This is literally a lie and you faggots are making threads based in nothing now? holy shit. You even read the fucking festival shit and think this is coming from a stream

>>63928133
this is some crazy cope.
She's in Niji
And she doesn't mind male collabs.
i.e she will collab with males, and males will barge into her stream.
You fags tried this strat with Pomu et al. It didn't work.

>>63924577
This never happened btw

>>63928281
proof next thread?

>>63928223
Those are her teammates, but she's doing a practice stream tomorrow with Reimu and Kotoka since she doesn't play Apex much. I think Vivi's team aren't taking the customs very seriously.

Also for the record Vanta is a good dude, don't associate him with sexpests like Luca. The guy came to her stream after debut just to warn her about turning off monetization for Bloodborne and then left her alone after instead of attentionwhoring. And he's gay as fuck.

>>63924577
kek who is this bitch

>>63927763
Retard

>>63928426
The "savior of nijisanji", appearently

>>63928281
https://streamable.com/9bzsta

>>63928550
your audio is fucked anon

Don't worry , rizzstel will rizz her with his drills

>>63928223

>>63927066
>>63927733
>>63927829
>>63928281
Sister...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXSGAf44xJU&t=561

>>63928716
AIEEEEEEEEE DELETE DELETE DELETE

>>63928550
>>63928716
>gamer cat maid
>shooting star
>festival
poor Vivi stuck in NijiCN..

clip

https://streamable.com/9bzsta

>>63928716
OH NO NO NO SISTERS

why are you fags acting like this is some kind of yab? we know vivi is a unityfag even before debut

>>63928772
>unityfag
Why would you insult her like that?

>>63928716
Bro...

>>63924577
this is cute, instead of being a bitch with her fans

>>63928716
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NIJIBROS DON'T LOOK

>>63928772
being real, it's because /#/ trannies only use Vivi as way to shit on Nijisanji. they don't watch or care about her or her content. she could be the best streamer in the world and they won't know it or care to find out because she lacks the blue dorito seal of approval.

>>63928847
ALL OUT WAR LMAO

>>63928793

reminder that Luca lost to fucking indog and crowbringer

>>63928893
>A male
>Lost to two males
Not the best look Vivi. Disgusting whore.

>>63925893
Bonbon is the only, ONLY male I'd trust, and that's because he just doesn't give a fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rH-Mls-Jlo

>>63928890
Looks like shes a fan of cute girls doing cute things first and foremost
Also >doxxfaggotry

>>63928890
Towa...

>>63928716
This is kind of sad to hear but the event was never going to have anyone relevant when the person responsible for contacting Japanese side of hololive is fucking Axel.

>>63928941
And retards say the same thing about Bettel because funny clown man stays in lane, couldn't possibly do anything with girls.
You just know the second anything happens, shitposts will be made for eternity.

>>63928890
>Luna
>Haachama
>Fubuki
>Pomu
>Mito
>Chihiro
based based based based

>Rushia
cringe but forgivable

>>63929001
I don't trust Bettel because he baits for saudi princess money.

>>63929001
Bobon has been in Niji for like 4 years and has had 0 yabs. The worst thing he did was burst his appendix during a Apex tournament because he refused to drop out.

>>63924577
understandable, if I had a chance to get blasted by a gamer cat maid I'd take it too
>>63924707
after this it's also understandable if people spend the tournament goofing around

>>63928973
Past life isnt doxx you faggot, its just her old vtuber identity

>>63927763
Did anyone think a DEV_IS girl would join?

>>63929090
That's the equivalent of saying if any HoloEN girl collabs with a JP homo, it's ok, when there's been proof that it wasn't in fact ok at all.

>>63929090
bobon litearlly had a yab saying he refund games after playing for2 hours kek

>>63929119
Post that makes me uncomfortable and I can convince the janitor to delete = doxx

>>63929160
>Thinking that's a yab
Reaching hard as fuck there kiddo.

>>63928973
>doxxfaggotry
>but it's ok if you point out Shiori's past vtuber self!

>>63929160
How is that a yab? Weren't /v/ making fun of indie game devs for crying about Steam letting you refund games that are shorter than 2 hours 10 years ago? Man 2020 tourists are dumb.

>>63929119
Go back to the doxxsite sis

>>63923501

>>63929134
I don't think anyone outside of core hololive audience registers dev_is as a separate branch and just think they are part of main branch.

>>63927804
Retards being retarded. People called her based for saying something like
>I wasn't informed about this so I won't do it
to a Luca collab or something, retards here praise her and shit.
I don't know if it's discord faggots or what, because this push she's got and the vocal faggots saying she was unicorn-friendly are the most bizarre thing that has happened to a new Niji debut.

>>63927727
Selen should apologize to her. I don't know what lies Selen told but it feels malicious.

>>63929282
If you assume that and the existence of HoloproEN it works out.

>>63929402
honestly, the worst part was the vocal retards trying to push that she should have been in advent.
guess what, now the same vocal retards are all "turning" on her. all so tiring.

>>63929402
The culture war is on, nuance is too complicated.

>>63928716
I feel genuinely bad for her

>>63929160
>yab
that is just based behaviour

>>63929450
I think Selen was mislead by her homoEN friends. She wouldn't have any idea who they can actually reach out to.
She still of course holds all responsibility for her communication while being mostly ignorant of the holo side of the event.

>>63929774
I don't. I genuinely don't have the energy to give a single fuck about any Niji beyond Pomu, Elira and Petra. Everyone after the second wave of faggots seems like a stranger to me.

>>63928772
People were clowning on Selen acting like she would everyone together and some people feel like it's really lacking on the Hololive side. 4 IDs and Mel. This nice lady is sounding like she was promised Aqua/Suisei/Towa which feels kinda funny.

>>63928716
This bitch set her sights way too high. lmao

>>63929402
>>63929486
This shit happens with every vtuber debut are you guys really surprised.
>New vtuber debuts
>Genuine fans shill her by emphasizing her good points, making threads for her streams, etc to help her grow an audience, and like posting about how much they enjoy her content
>Holo tourists catch wind of her and latch on to her, using posts like "she's just like hololive but better" and "yeah she's in [company] but she hates males" or "she should've been in [most recent holoen gen] instead of [lowest sub girl] in an attempt to act like they're ahead of the curve on a hot new star, because at the end of the day they are just soulless tourists chasing trends
>Holo fans see this and get upset by seeing the girls they enjoy being shat on by tourists just to make the new girl look good
>Antis of the new girl or her company see Holo fans getting upset and amplify the shitposting by emphasizing negativity towards Hololive, knowing it will trigger Holo fans even more and get them lots of (You)'s
>All her threads from this point just devolve into arguments over why this girl who isn't in Hololive is garbage because she isn't adhering to Hololive's rules, with no one discussing her content anymore
>The catalog tourists get bored of new girl and just go back to watching Hololive clips where [insert vtuber] says Hi Honey for the millionth time
>Genuine fans get tired of the negativity and either go to their own split or stop talking about her entirely
>Everyone acts like her fans are awful even though 90% of the shitposting came from the same people who shit up every catalog thread
its basically the entire purpose of the catalog at this point

>>63929450
probably the "every branch" stuff she said on stream. if she got the blue one to ask instead she might have at least gotten matsuri or towa

Kek, i feel sorry for her but aqua rarely collabs even in hololive except a few members.

>>63929197
It's not actually and gets deleted all the same.

>>63929978
Reimu has been killed by Aqua. Reimu has also killed Laplus.

>>63929953
>Genuine fans shill her by emphasizing her good points
NTA, but this is exactly why I detest Shiori threads trying to praise her or talk anything good about her in the catalog.
It's not helping, dramafags will NEVER change their mind, stop. I'm more convinced that an actual Shiori anti made the thread than anything else. Don't need retarded breeds trying to be her fans. Thank you very much.
Hope your girl manages to either ignore the shitflinging, and her fans, you guys, can just ignore the bullshit.

>>63929852
Who asked?

>>63929953
As a paladin I just want to watch her play some games and have fun. That's all.

>>63924577
>gamer cat maid, or a shooting star, or a festival!
LMAO. Did she really thought there is even a chance for Aqua or Suisei to be there?

>>63930152
Aqua and Suisei do play Apex against males, but only for big tournaments.

>>63930139
I genuinely love her chat awareness and tardwrangling abilities, it's what made me take notice of her. She outright bans beggars and SEAs so her community is great to be a part of.

>>63930100
The same person that asked for your faggot ass opinion.

>>63930152
We don't know what Selen has told her or what Axel has told Selen.

>>63930254
Aqua doesn't play in tourneys for the most part.

>63930375
Why holobronies are so aggressive?

>>63930380
Axel promised Towa, Matsuri, FBK, Suisei, Aqua and a team with Pekora/Marine/Miko.

>>63930443
She is scared. Understandable. She can only lose because people only expect the best from her.

>>63930375
>>63930453

>>63928772
>yab
The opposite. It's sad she ended up in Niji where she is wasting her time. She should just keep applying to EN4.

>>63930380
I'm not sure why she trusted axel to do anything. the only ones he could ask are towa and festival who both bully him. any messages he sent were probably dumb and/or flirty as well

>>63930523
It's not. She ended up where she is for a reason.

>>63930380
>>63930607
>>63930483
Honestly I just hope Selen and the other nijis learned the lesson that ENhomos have no internal pull in hololive.

>>63930523
Being a fan of both, she's probably happy being in either. But if wanted to interact with her oshis, it wasn't going to happen in NijiEN. HoloJPs would never interact with NijiENs outside of VSaikyo/CR Cup type events. Most HoloENs don't even bother interacting with NijiENs. But as a HoloEN, you can easily interact with NijiEN girls if you wanted. She wouldn't be able to interact with NijiJPs though.

>>63930607
I'm 100% sure Axel promised her that a bunch of holos would be there without confirming. He probably assumed at least some of them would show up just from being @everyone'd in discord, but no one replied because he's in Holostars. Then...no one showed up. Not because males are there but because they have every Holostars member muted in discord and didn't even see the ping. If she got Zeta to organize it with her it would've went differently.

>>63930375
BASED

>>63930523
Should've tried harder lmao

>>63930725
Nah, I think this was clearly just mishandled by Selen in a vain attempt to get over the whole
>management forbid me from organizing tourneys
thing she had earlier in the year.
A surefire way would have been to shoot a message to Mumei and Zeta, organize as a girls-only thing, and take it from there.
Let's look at from Towa's, Festivals, or Suisei's perspective
>hey wanna be in an FPS collab with a bunch of English-speaking Nijisanji people?
Why would they say yes lmao?

>>63928989
Does Axel even have any pull with Towa?

>>63924707
>And not even Matsuri or Towa made it in.
No no no retard, is not "made it in" as if Selene has anything that hololive doesn't have already, they didn't even care for this nijishit event, get it right.

>>63930842
Towa had no issues with participating in Ollie's shitshow even as a sub-in. If Selen's hololive contact had been Ollie or even Roberu she'd get a lot more out of it than she did out of fucking Axel.
>shoot a message to Mumei and Zeta
What have they ever organized?

This thread is shit.

Vivi cute

>>63930254
They play against males every time they play. What difference is there in playing against faceless guys around the world vs Internet personalities, if in both situations you don't even actively interact and talk with them?

>>63930944
Based and vivipilled

>>63930940
Ollie's tournament was a 1m wish so a lot of the girls felt obligated to at least play along with her.

>>63930770
Interactions very much go both ways, you can't say "NijiEN can't interact with HoloEN's, but HoloEN's can interact with NijiEN's" when both companies have pretty much the same stance of just needing permission from your managers. Even the line about Holos being able to interact with other Holos isn't true, seeing as Gura still hasn't acknowledged Advent's existence.

The main advantage of being in Niji over Holo is having access to collabs with any vtubers outside of the corpo sphere. Holos famously have a very difficult time organizing collabs with smaller vtubers, but anyone in NijiEN can easily collab with V&U or IdolCorp or Phase or even 2view indies if they want to. Holo probably won't debut a new gen for another 2 years anyway so if the choice is "stream as a 3view in Niji" or "be a NEET until the next Holo auditions" then you'd be a retard to choose the latter. At least she's building experience for her resume.

>>63930999
That’s a lot of shit you just said.
Let me summarize.

Vivi cute

>>63930999
>seeing as Gura still hasn't acknowledged Advent's existence.

Gura has done multiple collabs with advent and gave a wholesome talk about FuwaMoco. you stupid nigger

>>63930896
Probably not. Towa only joins things involving holostars when it's not organized by holostars even though she doesn't exactly avoid interacting with them either.

>>63926893
Bonnivier Pranaja, ex-NijiID, old friends with Sonny Brisko. Pretty chill dude and honestly one of the more decentmales in Niji

>>63930940
Are you retarded?
1. Ollie IS in Hololive
2. Ollie can speak Japanese
3. It was a 1m wish.
4. Towa has more of a bond with Ollie than with fucking Axel lmao, Selen might've had a better chance asking fucking RPR rather than Axel.
>Roberu
No, she already has two fucking friends in Hololive, Zeta and Mumei. She fucked up by not contacting them to get them to try and get at least some EN/ID girls to join. If she really wanted homos than yes, ask Axel.
The simple reality is that Selen made poor use of her network.

>>63928989
Known for a long time that Axel was fuckin useless as an organizer. Vivi shouldn't have trusted Selen too much. I'll pull out last minute if I were her.

>>63931251
Naw, she's obligated to stay in. Is it such a bad thing if holos aren't even in the thing? It will be a fun event.

>>63930896
the only time I can definitely remember them talking was on the rust server. there might have been something on the GTA RP server I didn't see

>>63931251
Chihiro and Selen are two of her oshis so I think she's ok with just playing with them. She didn't sound upset about the lack of Holos since she just wanted to participate in a big event.

>>63927533
No, it started before that, and honestly I don't even remember how it started but right from debut some people started forcing that she was the GFE savior of nijien, very obviously setting up the grudgeposts for when the already scheduled TTT collab happened, then we got a lot of shitposts during that collab because her numbers were lower but then the Luca thing happened and people started pushing the GFE shit again, it was also at the high of all the Luca sexpest threads here so it just lined up perfectly for shitposters, TTT already had other collabs since then but no one said anything about those

>>63931275
Vivi had some kind of cgdct shmuck going for her. She's definitely going to lose a huge chunk of unicorns after the event.

Why are nijicucks always losing?

>>63927804
Because she has never collabed with males by herself before this. This is the first time she is gaming with males without another female liver by her side.

>>63931350
Really? When she's collabed with her chinese male genmate?
Get real. Vivi isn't doing anything new man, most Niji girls are keeping to themselves nowadays but will still do the occasional collab with guys

>>63931434
nta but there are others in other threads trying to insist she's still cgdct/gfe. do you also agree with it?

>>63931448
Read this >>63931434

>>63931350
She never did, she's a huge aris simp and she straight up times up people who call her comfystreamer or other shit on her streams, she also swears like a sailor

>>63931470
can you stop merging cgdct and gfe as if they're the same thing? because they very much aren't.
rosemi is cgdct, henya is cgdct, and vivi is cgdct, but none of them are gfe or even attempt to be. it's totally possible for a streamer to focus their content around collabing with girls while still having normal, professional interactions with men.

Hopeful unicorns were morons for thinking she was anti-male instead of recognizing the obvious: she just fucking hates Luka in particular
Based for that desu

>>63931434
She never collabed with anyone before this because it was their debut week collab ban, she didn't had a lot of collabs at all in fact, Claude had a lot more collabs already than both vivi and kunai combined

>>63931533
If that were even remotely true then bae would be considered cgdct. She's not.

>>63931520
>>63931533
>huge aris simp
>cgdct
Thank you for this information, I already gave a Niji like this a try and dropped her for becoming lazy and relying on being "cute" to stay relevant.
Now I know to avoid her like the plague.

>>63931470
Time (and numbers) will tell whether she'll remain unicorn friendly after the event. The unicorn mentality is a vague concept. I can neither agree nor disagree until I get facts and figures.

>>63931570
why isn't she? she's cute, she's a girl, and she does cute things.
it's probably an important distinction that a girl can interact with male vtubers without being a whore. so long as their content doesn't revolve around males. i can just not watch the collabs with males. but if her content is all male collabs then i might as well not watch at all.

>>63930999
Ask yourself who in HoloEN even acknowledges that NijiEN exists? it's basically just Kiara, Nerissa, and Mori. Perms don't even enter the equation until the other party acknowledges your existence.

How the fuck is Niji's collab network relevant if she wants to get sniped by Aqua? She's not out here gushing about Pippa.

Building her resume for what? Being in NijiEN is a final stop unless you get poached by Ironmouse. Streaming at Niji while waiting for EN4 is cope because I don't see Holo poaching a NijiEN girl. If you were just going back to being an indie, you don't need a resume. And you're as shit not going to write "I played Bloodborne as an anime girl" applying for a CPA job.

>>63931570
But there are holofans who consider her as cgdct though. Bae does seem to enjoy doing solo streams more than collabs. You are just one person with that perception.

>>63931533
If they collab with males they're not cgdct. Hope this helps, nijisis.

>>63924577
poor vivi...
also
>falseflag as a holofag
>shit on vivi
>"why are holofags like this?"
why the fuck do nijifans love to do this shit? you don't see holofags falseflagging as nijifans just to say that they hate mori

>>63931533
None of them are CGDCT.
Interaction with males is antithesis of CGDCT.
The distinction between CGDCT and GFE comes from their interaction with fan base, not male collars.

>>63931720
Doesn't actually work that way in a mixed gender company anon. Imagine a female chuuba who never goes out of her way to collab with males BUT during her birthday stream while doing an open zatsu, a male vtuber colleague pops in. She can't just say get lost but she can remain professional, thank the guy for the birthday wishes while remaining relatively distant to the guy. Cgdct status quo is still achieved anon. A few unicorns might get mad at her yes but a lot of them will just be angry at the male jumping in instead.

>>63931825
It's honestly an Asian thing to hide their face if they could, something about pride in their culture instead of just being forward about their opinions to make it look like they aren't the disagreeable type.

>>63931952
that's just retarded, the original CGDCT animes all had males in them
>lucky star
had males
>k-on
had males
>azumanga daioh
had males
>aria
had males
CGDCT has nothing to do with the presence of males, it's a style of content focused on cute girls being cute with other girls.

>>63931589
It's worse than you think. Her PL had Hotashi drag her around EVO on a screen.

>>63931979
Agreed. CGDCT is determined by how the vtuber interacts with males rather than her not interacting with males at all. Of course no interaction will be the best case scenario but we live in a world where 50% of us are male so male interaction is unavoidable in the long run.

>Nijiniggers parade her as a girl that will refuse male collabs and is only partaking because she was forced to.
>Collabs with males for apex tourney willingly
>Nijiniggers still try to gaslight others into thinking she's good.
It's happening in this very thread right now by trying to shove her into the cgdct box rumao.

>>63932004
just wanna chime in to say you're arguing against the /vt/ bastardized version of cgdct that somehow excludes girls like bae and shiori despite very much doing cute things and being cute girls. all because they *checks scribbled notes* interacted with males, in shioris case, not even on stream but on twitter. yet in the very same vein, ririka is both cgdct and gfe even with the very same male interaction on twitter.
tldr girl they like is le good, girl they dont like is le bad, stop trying

Vivi...

>>63931533
GFE also doesn't mean anything at this point here either, might as well merge them

>>63932225
Firstly, stop using Shiori as your scapegoat, nijinigger. She's cgdct and even /#/, unicorn central, has accepted that she won't collab with males.
Secondly muh bastardized version is the correct version
Lastly, your niji girl is a whore that willingly threw away her cgdct status for a chance at fame that is now crashing down on her. Congrats.

>>63931825
Yeah, because the ones hating at holos are other holofans, also every single nijien thread on the catalog is either straight up anti or falseflagging, aside from the general

>>63932350
You remind me of those twitter woketards who suddenly came in to the anime community and claimed trap as their own representative derogatory word out of nowhere, you and them are both the same breed kek, shame on you

>>63932350
>Vivi stopped being what she never was
There's just no way that posts like this are genuine, just like there's no way anyone bought the retarded "vivi is the nijien's CGDCT savior" falseflagging, it's just another day on this board where retards will use anything they can go shit on nijisanji

>>63932439
>retards will use anything they can go shit on nijisanji
Every single one of the retards you speak of works for Nijisanji.

>>63931303
in that case I hope she gets bodied by chihiro. she has a shot at killing selen if she chokes again

>>63932439
So you're telling me that these are all falseflags?
>>63931533
>>63931979
>>63932004
>>63932122
Not a single one truly believes vivi is cgdct?

>>63932519
She was hoping to get bodied by Chihiro too. She's just a fangirl at heart.

>>63932527
>Not a single one truly believes vivi is cgdct?
Yes, or at least I sure hope they don't because not only it shows that they have never watched her but it's also very embarrassing to admit falling for garbage catalog bait

>>63932519
She said she might become a sitting duck if she faces one of her oshis, selen will finally get some kills in a tournament

>>63932545
Even that is kind of rare even if they're both part of nijisanji

>>63927533
It's almost as if there are reasons why someone might not want to collab with someone else, that have nothing to do with gender.
Holy shit, take meds.

>>63928793
It's a compliment you fucking double retard.

>>63930950
I don't know, and I suspect most outrage over holos participating is just shitposting.

CGDCTfags are obnoxious, they can take their buzzword definitions and shove them up their faggot assholes
To me, a cute girl who does cute things is CGDCT because she is a cute girl doing cute things, go make your own new buzzword about Cute girls doing cute things with other girls exclusively which is what you actually imply you retarded low IQ monkeys

>>63928869
>he thinks this retarded timeloop is actually evidence of anything

>>63931339
I'm pretty sure it was because of the narrative that since iluna every girl who joined was a luxnoc fan wanting to jump at their dicks, then came vivi with her nijiholo plushies never mentioning any male on debut and that's how the bait started, there's also the narrative that since she's a pomudachi she probably hates Luca

>>63932751
Based and truthpilled

>>63929001
>>63929156
>implying anything has ever "happened" with any male in any organization
imagine being on THIS FUCKING LEVEL of mental illness

>>63932789
Sorry anon, collab = sex, I don't make the rules

>>63931682
>it's basically just Kiara, Nerissa, and Mori.
(You) retards literally just went through an entire new arc about the Mumei-Selen thing and now you're going to pretend like Mumei doesn't acknowledge NijiEN?

>>63931720
Holy shit, imagine actually thinking this makes sense. Did (You) drop Azumanga Daioh when it turned out they had a male teacher?

>>63932644
Vivi might not do cute things but she is very cute.

>>63932527
She is still cgdct to me until the apex event. As much as I like bobon as a person, her image is still important and I hope vivi bails out.

>>63932942
I agree but I'm aware of what people want when they say CGDCT

>>63931720
>nijisis
looks like i found the one shitting on holos in the /#/ using CGDCT as excuse, kys
catpcha: MRKYS

>>63932350
>"girl I like is cgdgt, girl I don't isn't"
>correct version
kys
Anyway, /#/ are literal diagnosed sub-70-IQ retards who couldn't predict whether the sun will rise tomorrow, so whatever they think about what she will or won't do is completely irrelevant. As for the rest of your schizo ranting I have no idea what it's even supposed to mean.

>>63932751
They hated him because he told the truth

>>63932751
Quads of truth

>>63932350
>nijini
stop using my oshi for your shitty tribalism you /#/faggot

>>63928716
>On her SECOND week of debut
Selen...you don't know any holoJPs and the homos sure don't have the clout stop misleading newbies

>>63932350
/#/monkeys are the scourge of this board I swear, retards should stay in their toilet bowl

>>63928716
so is this another holoEN reject? sad

>>63932751
i saw some holofags from /#/ like that too, but there's a lot of tribalists, unicorns and falseflaggers that love to use the "CGDCT" as something to shit on other holos (most specifically those who did collabs with males or replied to them on twitter)

>>63928716
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

>>63927763
retard. it was a small tempus + nijien only event that somehow evolved into this shit. fuck whoever management asked for the other branches to be included.
TSB organizing this event with twitch who's would've been infinitely better.

>>63933200
if she really wanted to ask through the stars there are a couple she could have talked to, axel certainly isn't one of them though. I doubt mel joining had anything to do with him either since she's been on a male collab kick lately

>>63924577
What I don't understand is that if Vivi is still trying to keep her cgdct image why doesn't she swap teams with Ren Zotto? She will be safe from all this drama if she was part of Elira's team instead.

>>63932751
Retard it literally comes from /a/ to described all female moe shows like k-on. That is why it describes people who just hang out with other girls.

>>63934539
>/a/tard trying to police buzzwords
kys

>>63934522
Because she doesn't have that image, she actually tries to be competent at fightan and other vidya.

>>63934578
Kill yourself zoomer CGDCT and /a/ predates your birth. You can enjoy your "cute girl" vtubers without being triggered by established terms.

>>63934522
The drama is about Selen and the homos misleading people no one expected her to avoid dudes in niji

>>63934666
Shut the fuck up faggot, it's called "Cute girls doing cute things" and the definitions you retards have come up with doesn't mean what it says on the label, go kill yourself retardgod

>>63934709
>the definitions you retards have come up with doesn't mean what it says on the label,
How much more literal can it get? It has existed for decades. It's exactly what it says. No deeper than that. It's cute girls only. You can continue to cry about people using an old ass term as it was originally conceived zoomer faggot.

I don't get this thread.

Vivi is openly an FGC autist who loves the content of and is friends with Majin Obama. She's adopted Aris' memes because she's a stoner. Anyone who watched her back then knew she was a fan of Holo and Niji and had merch for NijiEN and NijiJP (of which some were for males like Kuzuha and Kanae). Her getting her hopes up that StartEnd might be at the event isn't a surprise to anyone who actually watches her.

I mean fuck, she's never even said that she only like the Niji girls, only that a lot of the girls were her inspiration. You faggots are trying too hard.

>>63934806
Pick up a dictionary and actually learn the individual meanings of the words in that phrase you illiterate faggot and even then you won't realize how wrong your stupid fucking definition of "only" girls is when there's zero implication of exclusivity on the label
It's a fucking buzzword created by monkeys for braindead monkeys like you

>>63932895
Please count the males in CGDCT anime roru
if they exist they have a 90+% chance of being just background characters that do not speak
the rest are family members

Holotards are obviously upset that Vivi debuted in Niji and since they are Holotards, they can't watch anything that is Niji, so they are stuck with their Holo girls.
If they enjoy being bau bau and their biboo tax so much, why are they seething about Vivi? Just watch your girls and shut up.

>>63934522
She's teaming up with Reimu & Kotoka now. >>63928669

>>63934864
If she really is Holo fan she would know that there was 0% chance of Startend being in this

>>63934539
those all-female moe shows had males though. just call yourself a unicorn if that's what you are. not sure why you need to steal a term that already existed and predates your birth. girls like amamiya from nijijp are peak CGDCT and yet she collabs with males all the time and her CGDCT fans just don't watch those streams. the JP fanbase understands this while EN unicorns are totally lacking in understanding of the culture they inserted themselves into that they think interacting with a male means a vtuber is poisoned forever. that shit doesn't exist in japan, even 3DPD idols interact with male tv hosts and celebrities and their fans just see them as background characters who exist to bring attention to their oshi's cuteness.

>>63935087
She just seems like a fan of vtubers I don't see what the big deal is.

This is the level of low effort falseflagging people are pretending to fall for >>63935087

>>63935095
Hindsight is 2020. If you're in a position where you are invited to an event where the non-zero chance of at least maybe Towa showing up is there, and spots are filling up quickly, and you need to make a decision on if you want to take that small chance or decline and find out they did participate, the overwhelming majority of people - including retard anons here - would probably take it with little thought.

>>63935095
She's also a Selen fan, can't blame her for believing in Selen's plans of grandeur

>>63935129
The issue being that unicorns originally also weren't upset about male collabs. It is a term from idol culture, where they don't want the idol to have a relationship with men. It just started when Myth stopped streaming and Council debuted and completely broke the unicorns neck. They had to watch girls they didn't want to and started the no males on stream shit. So unicorns segregated themselves from doxxtards.

>>63928941
>trusting indog
Lol lmao

>>63934864
Anon the problem with the thread is that there are two factions arguing about two seemingly different things, one side thinks that Vivi is unwilling to join the apex custom (because there isn't any of the startend girls inside) but is forced to join since she committed to it. So they are mad at the one who forced her into the situation aka Selen and homofags. Another faction is just unhappy that Vivi is being forced into a MALE collab. Those guys are mostly unicorns and whatnot. What both factions don't understand is what you explained which is she WILLINGLY joined without considering the repercussions and that she WILLINGLY wanted to join a team with Vanta and Bobon so all in all, it is her own fault she ended up in the custom now. Whether she is willing or unwilling now doesn't matter anymore, she has to just suck it up and play or pull out if she feels cheated (at the risk of destroying her relationship with Selen but who cares at this point)

>>63933263
>open /#/
>they're discussing how excited they are for holofes and mocking 2ch for complaining about the price of tickets
How scary

>>63935510
this entire narrative that she feels cheated by selen is in your head anon.
she never said that or even commented on the lack of holos, she wanted them to be there but she still wants to participate, for fun.

>>63935510
Fucking hell if people like you were to commentate over a round of golf it would sound like a DBZ fight.

Vivi is in the custom because she wants to be and that's more or less the beginning and end of it. Any discussion about CGDCT, male collabs, feeling cheated by Selen etc have been invented on this shithole of a site.

>>63935093
I don't think so. I think that's just some apex practice while the real custom will still be with vanta as seen in both schedules, team deadondrop. Bobon is the only one not really confirmed since he is awol as usual.

>>63935422
Sure there was non-zero chance of Towa being there.
But Aqua? Suisei?
Hoping for Towa or Matsuri being there is understandable.
Hoping for fucking Aqua to be there is straight up delusional.

>>63935729
I never said she felt cheated. And I never made the narrative. The people of the thread did. I said that whether she felt cheated or not, she still has to play instead of using the reasons stated in the OP.

>>63935800
I take this as a compliment. If a commentator managed to hype something as boring as golf to become like DBZ, that would be kino as hell.

But thanks, you summed up everything in one sentence.

>>63924577
>Because, you know, you don't wanna miss the chance to get sniped by a gamer cat maid, or a shooting star, or a festival!
I'm not sure what's funnier: Selen having a dramatic return to hosting an event only for it to be utter dogshit or Nijis being more excited for holojps instead of nijijps

>>63928716
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>63935445
This makes absolutely no sense, what sort of cope is this? How does councul debuting equate to people taking a stance against male collabs? People started caring about it back then because bae was a massive stars fan and was fangirling over roberu on stream

>>63928716
Fuck, she truly is a holoreject. Feel kinda bad for her ngl

Trust me, it isn't fun being rolled over in apex and then spending the whole time spectating the enemy kek.

>>63936804
Stop rewriting history, it was Tempiss debuting and their subsequent first holo collabs followed by the yabba dabba doo shit that made everyone take their anti-male collab stances. That other anon is talking about nu-unicorns after the debut of council who adopted the term and changed the original definition of Unicorns (no relationships) into that of (no male interactions) in order to deflect from the fact that Fauna and Mumei were being actively railed by their boyfriends and joined an idol company so their fans had to somehow cope and change the meaning of the term altogether from it's original Japanese meaning

Honestly this was her own fault. The event started off as a StarsEN/NijiEN thing before EA dropped by to sponsor it and now everyone wants a piece of the pie. Did she initially think all of JP will get involved just because Selen said all branches will be represented despite the fact that it's going to be a small roster of 10-15? Not to mention HoloEN is trapped in the brambles of their own garden with the lesbiavians only stopping by to say hello to their girlfriends in Niji but never actually participate in any of their events unless it's on Holo terms.

>>63937120
Oh please. You faggots were always anti-male. Stop hiding behind such shallow copium.

This is one of the most mentally ill threads I have seen.

>>63924577
Don't care but she has big boobs

>>63929269
Delete /#/

>>63928716
Now I feel bad. Hal please invite her to join even one of the weekly customs so she can play some big JP streamers from Hololive, VSPO and NeoPorte

>>63924577
SELEN LIED
BEGGARS DIED

Okay all this she is/wants to be cgdct or doesn't aside. How the fuck do the newer girls in niji survive on THIS and 2% of merch? Has the portion of the niji fanbase that is actually willing to monetarily support girls just collapsed completely?

>>63938785
NIJISEETHE

>>63927804
Because you’re a retard, like most of the board. People genuinely like her for telling Luca to shove it, because plenty of actual nijikeks hate his skeezy ass too. That is genuinely pretty based, but she’s still in NijiEN.

>>63931533
This anon speaks the truth

>>63941004
Yikes, poor girl. hopefully, this doesn't affect her $$$ much.

>>63938254
>before EA dropped by to sponsor it and now everyone wants a piece of the pie
EA's sponsorship is literally just in-game currency prizes for the top teams lol

>>63936847
she's not a holoreject. She just loves both companies which I'm sure is unheard of for a 3rd worlder such as yourself

>>63941004
they're on jp life-support
anycolor desperately pushes enshit on the main jp twitter and plasters them all over the jp store even though there's a separate one for en

>>63928133
Hey alright

So she asked a total of 3 males herself to join... Hahah.. nice cgdct you got there nijis. Actually feel bad for yall.

>>63930523
you really think she's talented enough to be in en4 or hololive at all for that matter? lol

>>63941526
Yes, I'm sure she didn't apply for Hololive even once sister.

>>63944887
>sister
kill yourself faggot. She's a giant fan both so it's possible, but Anycolor clearly got her first

>>63931533
They can't be CGDCT because only Holo girls are CGDCT. Every other company and all the indie vtubers are all whores (until they join the blue Doritos club and are absolved of their sins by Yagod himself).

Why are so many femcels in this thread and on this board seething about her? Wtf did she do?

>>63928337
I sometimes wonder. If it wasn't Luxiem. If the first group of notable men in the west were a bunch of consummate professionals, or a bunch of blatant homosexuals, or the hypothetical brotubers, would we be here? Would male collabs just be totally acceptable had we gotten anything but what we got?

>>63946191
>moderately successful in her career
>doesn't need nor want validation from her male peers
>seems to be happy just living life
Gee, I wonder why. It really is a mystery

Rangeban the rest of SEA immediately.

>>63931089
> expecting a catalogue shitter to know what theyre talking about
Just point and laugh.

Do holobros really think it reflects well on Cover when they call her a holoreject? Because it really doesn't.

>>63946256
The world is the lens you choose to view it under

>>63934872
>realize how wrong your stupid fucking definition of "only" girls
Are you butthurt male vtubers are excluded from cute girls doing cute things? What a baffling thing to seethe about. Retards like you would protest k-on or lovelive not having the girls with other dudes.

>>63946191
Because she avoids Luca

>You guys know what I mean right? I mean I own all their plushies and nendos, you guys are just like me we're just fans right?
Well nijifags? You love Hololive and collect the merch just like Vivi right?

>>63929001
Shiori antis say the same thing about her.

>>63928716
This is my first time hearing her and damn she has a really cute voice. Kek. Shame about the dashed expectations

>>63931952
> Interaction with males is antithesis of CGDCT
Not really.
Bae, Towa and Mumei are all CGDCT despite being participants in male collabs, because their homo interactions are like less than 30% of all their content, and they never have flirty/shipping dynamics with any of the males.

"muh male collabs" is only a problem for shitposters pretending to be unicorns.

>>63935724
an anon's opinion of /#/ is the easiest way to identify whether they're a twitter/discord tourist or a 4chan regular.

>>63932715
fucking niji liars won't even let their one star do her shit in peace
unityfags are antis, she's not a unityfag at all
also she doesn't care for EN

it's almost like this board is full of women who live off of drama

>>63947389
>noooo /#/ is a good boy who dindu nuffin

>>63932751
The word has a proper meaning but it has unfortunately been co-opted by catalog tourists to aid in their shitposting.

If anyone accuses ANY chuuba of not being CGDCT because of "muh male collab" ask them what they think of pic rel, you'll easily realize that they don't even watch VTubers.

>>63928716
Poor girl. Selen really did her dirty by pretending there was a chance for the big Holos to join.

>>63927804
Unicorn council here: We have no knowledge or approval in assigning ANY Nijisanji female as a "unicorn friendly streamer". Any claims made to the contrary are from bad actors in bad faith that seek to cause division amongst the ranks. Disregard any post that claims a Niji girl is cgdct until further notice.

>>63947647
> uwu scary /#/ boogeyman
Theyre limped dick faggots that get their material stolen by you catalogue shitters.
> On noooo its le scary numberfags! Its all them. Uwaaaah

>>63947716
She had one and then has only collabed with girls since. So if someone is looking for a streamer of that "genre" they would likely prefer someone like Mumei over someone like Selen who frequently collabs with dudes. It's just a preference.

>>63927804
Give the nijiniggers a break. She's the closest thing they have to a unicorn-friendly chuuba since the lazulydia days. When was the last time they had a girl that didn't immediately resign herself to being the yellow rapist's cocksleeve?

I’m new to vtubers, why is collabing with males bad?

>>63948267
>Give the nijiniggers a break
Nijiniggers deserve only pain, death and suffering

>>63948280
There were some memes about male vtubers that were posted in the Hololive Global general 3 years ago and people took obvious jokes seriously.
Also the vtuber community is flooded with ESL fags from southeast asia.

>>63948280
It's a group of people that thinks of them as their girlfriends/wives and don't like it when they have any interaction with guys

>>63948280
>oh look, a "man" psychotic enough to pretend he's a cute uwu anime boi! I wonder what would happen if I went near him?

>>63948280
they and their fans have no redeemable qualities

>>63948044
The amount of times shitposting can be traced back to their threads in the archives proves otherwise

>>63938292
NTA but he's right. There's a reason why the TT collab and male collabs in general were met with either acceptance or just apathy (and a bunch of shitposting, but that was just the climate between hlg and hlgg).

Hell just check out the level headed discussion around the podcast-
>>>/jp/29144406 and >>>/jp/29132038.
It's basically just a giant "eh, 7/10" for the most part.

Council debuted and after EOPs saw who they were, the shitposting rose to an all time high because some of them had confirmed SOs.
Even amongst the JP holos, it's always been just speculation for most members' relationship status, and there's never been proper confirmation from the girls themselves.
And as someone who was around in those days, I directly witnessed the EOP narrative slowly evolve from "doesn't matter who she collabs with as long as she's single" to "doesn't matter who she's doing behind the scenes as long as she doesn't bring it up on stream".

This is a defense against the most obvious types of rm related shitposting, but it also means that the new wave of EOPs who joined with Council developed the retarded idea that this is how it worked in the JP side as well, and "all male collabs are bad".

These are the same retards that shitpost JP collabs with VAs and celebrities that are professional and fun, and good ways to increase your oshi's mindshare. They shitpost about the most asinine things like the Hikakin collab or Taira Isao performing with Korone as some sort of "gotcha" because admitting that the rule they set for themselves was out of pure cope would kill their ego.

>>63924577
Did the actually address unicorns about the whole Apex collab thing? That's kinda sad. I've already ditched her lol, this is exactly what I expected and I was only around to see her play Bloodborne.

>>63949050
That's because /#/ is the de facto /vt/ general. The only threads with more prolific fanbase cross-mingling would be the threads talking about a corpo/indie's massive yab

>>63949379
there has never been such thing as a good male collab

>>63948280
There's a significant portion of vtubing that has roots in idol culture, and a significant portion of vtubing that has roots in streaming culture. One tends to not like women collabing with men, one tends to not care either way.

>>63949684
It's basically actual vtubers vs westoids that jumped on the bandwagon when they saw it was popular and what ever the fuck Riku was thinking when he cooked up "virtual livers"

>>63948280
gawr gura, the most successful vtuber to ever exist, refuses to not only collab, but also acknowledge the existence of males, and she is right

>>63950024
Holy newfag

>>63950024
...Right

>>63950024
>actual vtubers
Do you honestly expect anyone on this board to know who kizuna ai and the 4 heavenly kings are? Everyone /here/ is a post-Myth newfag that grew up on twitch e-thot culture. Male collabs are the norm for the faggots.

>>63950545
>still clinging on past irrelevant shit like it matters
And I bet you dont even know who p-maru is nor do you watch her even though she is bigger than Gura

>>63950599
I watched pmaru before she became Luna, you faggot. Go be a retard somewhere else.

>>63950728
Do I need to repeat myself

>>63928669
Gdamn that's a beautiful illustration

>>63951238
>>63950599
>p-maru
>she is bigger than Gura
Nah, you did a good job proving my point and outing yourself as a retard that can't keep track of their own narrative.

Actual transcript:
>I think we got news about this Apex custom during... I want to say my second- the end of my second week, after debut. Just two weeks after debut. At the end of it.
>And originally, I had- I was like, [gasp]- oh my god! I really, really want to join! Because, like... You know, if I get krabered by a gamer cat maid, or a shooting star, I would- [laugh] You know what I mean? That is a one in a life- this is a one in a lifetime opportunity! Or like- or like, you know, being gunned down by an AR99, or a festival... you know?
>You can understand, right? You wakaru, you know what I'm saying? You guys get it, I'm the same! In a person of my shoes, I was like, [gasp] I have the nendos, I have plushies, if I get to eat a kraber because I'm scouting out a [???]- you know, that's just rather unfortunate, right? You know, I just- I was just- I was like, oh my god! I- I have to!
>So, I was like, ooh, maybe- maybe- maybe Kunai and Claude would want to play. So, I first thought to ask Claude and Kunai, and Kunai is not too interested in playing Apex, so I get that.
>And then- and then Claude- [laugh] Claude! Claude! He was like, "Do I want to have fun? Or do I want to sweat it out? And win?" And I was like, bro! Because we didn't have a third, and Kunai already said no, and I was like, I- I don't, I haven't really spoken to anyone really yet, I don't really know- I can count on one hand how many people play Apex, quite literally, that isn't Selen-senpai. And you know she's on her own team!
>So, I was like, shit! I was like, I- what do I do? And then I quickly asked- I was like, "Hey Vanta, you wanna play Apex?" And, you know, I feel like he's always- he's always down to try out new things and stuff like that, and he's like, "Yeah, sure! Sounds like fun!" And then- [laughs] And then I was like, "Alright! Who's our third?"
>Oh yeah, I asked Reimu-senpai first, and then Reimu was like, "Oh, I'm so sorry, I already have my team formed!" And I was like, two people that I know, that I've spoken to- you know, they're already teamed up with people.
>So, yeah, I asked Vanta, I was like, "Hey Vanta, you interested?" And then he was like, "Yeah, sure! Who's our third? You want me to go grab a third?" And I was like, "Yeah! Sure! I don't know anyone!" It was in my third week coming in!
>And then one morning, I saw a message, it was Bobon looking for a team, and I was like, "Oh! We need a third! Hey! If he's alright with me and Vanta..." And that's how it came to be.
>That's how it came to be, all because I'm a pervert and I was hoping that I would just run into the line of fire and maybe just drop a red shield and a fully kitted-out gun in front of, you know, some people and I'd just be like, "Oopsies~!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXSGAf44xJU&t=554s [Embed]

>>63927804
Because you're a thread reader.

>>63927804
Because /vt/ CONSISTENTLY repeats misinformation and catalog bait ad nauseum about streamers they don't watch like it's fact that it becomes a dominant narrative to people that don't know any better. /#/ is the worst of it because they're actively malicious and I saw so much shit that's outright wrong go on for multiple threads without anyone correcting them until it leaked out into the catalog.
Even this thread is acting like Vivi is MISERABLE in Niji and would've rather been in Holo and suddenly she's not excited for the tournament anymore because no one she likes is in it when that's not even close to true.

>>63928716
TELL DOWN PICTURE!

>>63927804
Nijis will lie through their teeth if it means increasing the numbers of someone

>>63924577
Should've held out for en4

>>63937120
>>63949379
Hoomans and Saplings are the ultimate cucks who single handedly made the culture worse
An I getting this right?

>>63941004
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't YouTube take a third, and Niji takes half of the remaining share, so they effectively only get a third of the supa amount?

>>63953362
YouTube 30
Corpo 35
Talent 35

>>63948280
because you have sexpests like luca

>>63952122
>>63952511
Got it, she enjoys being on the niji cock carousel, should have never given her a chance.

>>63953326
Yes, you finally understand now

>>63948280
Because males are boring and are not cute or funny

>>63952122
So she actively went out of her way to ask other nijimales to team with her when the first people she asked said no or dipped. Also I carried on watching for a bit
>likes playing apex
>used to play with friends who were all sweatlords in the top 500 so she had to be babysat
Yeah, definitely not appealing to the holo crowd with any of that. She might have attracted some crossover to begin with but she is going to end up on the same level as all the other nijiEN girls in mixed gens soon enough. Apex with two males is prime filter material.

Then again with metrics like >>63941004 why try to pander to anyones tastes but her own, girls would be better off indie than nijiEN and FAR better off in one of the decent small corpos, the niji coed model has completely failed since all the chinese sisters burned through the EN fanbase and fucked off.

>>63952511
The truth of the matter is that there just are not that many nijifags or nijifans on this board. We like to dream about a discord full of nijisisters descending upon every thread but that just isn't the case. Hololive fans are numerous and can shut down rrats instantly with their sheer numbers, but when there's only a few dozen nijifags on this board of course rrats are going to run wild.
For example people keep forgetting that streamlabs exists for niji and other small corpos but nobody ever mentions it.

>>63956477
She has had three streams this month and the top monthly tipper on her streamlabs is $10. If the superchats are that low, expecting the extra hoops needed to donate via streamlabs to be making up for it is delusional.

>>63956389
Yes, she isn't trying to pander to a certain demographic. She just does her own thing and doesn't give a fuck about putting on a facade. I think we can reach a concession and end the debate now.

>>63952511
Vivi talked about chihiro at the end of her stream yesterday for like 4 minutes and that anon of couse ignored it
>Oh my god imagine if I get to spot chihiro. Omg shes with kaede and rion..
>Chii-sama? exactly, you understand
>idk it still hasnt hit me yet, its a really cool opportunity
>chat:wanna try saying hi to her?
>I cant, im to shy, im going to admire her from afar like some kind of pervert. Im going to stay away at a socially acceptable distance

>>63957409
Looks like she can put an appropriate amount of fangirling on stream. It reminds me of Nerissa.

>>63957409
I wanna see her get coerced into calling her Chii-chan-senpai