/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>63898979
in 2 year or so the market will be flooded by AI vtubers, which will evolve into custom-tailored AI v-companions, made for (You) in mind.
Some people may still stream with an avatar, but the gachikoi will instead obsess over their own private virtual gf, leaving the market basically dead.

The Vtuber market is already over saturated, it's no longer the niche it once was
But that goes for regular streaming too
Just like that there will be a million streamers but only the few top famous ones and occasionally some up and comers

That is if all the top girls don't stop streaming for 3 months every time they feel a little burnout or unwell

>>63898979
is not going anywhere bob, if anything is going mainstream as retards doompost.

A new vtuber personally will be born within the next 3 years, who will match the popularity of old gura and current peko and marine or even surpass them and it will grow the vtuber market even more when your favorite oshi has retired

>>63898979
its about as likely to go away as streaming in general

>>63898979
EN vtuber market peaked in 2021 and while it's not going away it will remain a niche hobby. Japanese vtuber corpos have little influence in the western market so they have already obtained most of their potential audience.

current popular ones will lose relevance like ai/big4, but they'll still be around along with their diehard fans. also like >>63900293 says, there will probably be another viral miracle like sora's christmas, coco's asacoco, or gura's debut.

>>63900562
I've never watched gura before. Why DID she become so huge?

>>63898979
as long as anime fox girls and the desire to fuck them exist this hobby will always remain. exists

>>63900708
She won the virtual version of the genetics lottery and was the first EN loli vtuber
Plus at least back when she first debuted she was actually cute and energetic which fit the loli persona

>>63900708
stacked a lot of buffs. first holoEN wave, well known PL, loli design, citypop was trendy, family friendly.
also had no debuffs/filters like bad attitude moments, aggressive shipping, low energy, too nsfw.
at some point she started growing because of fame/ growing quickly, instead of any particular breakout talent.

>>63900708
Covid19 buff

>>63900057
faggots that want ai vtubers never truly liked vtubers in the first place

>>63898979
In Japan it will last forever but it's already dead in the EN market.

Who fucking cares.
Not a single person currently using /vt/ has seen even a fraction of Kizuna Ai or Kaguya Luna's videos.
None of you have done your homework and looked into the past vtuber personalities of people now operating in corpos.
You never branch out, you never look for a 2view you'll actually like, you never surprise yourself,
You know barely anything about Japanese vtubers, be they in Hololive, Nijisanji or any of the small companies.
You ask how long this will be around but you've already cast off a wide portion of it to be completely forgotten.
/vt/ is just drama baiting and spergouts now, because as it turns out this board has the most secondaries and failed normalfags on all of 4chan.

>>63901753
Most based post in the existence of this board

>>63901753
>None of you have done your homework and looked into the past vtuber personalities of people now operating in corpos.
dyrbt

>>63901753
Luna was boring as fuck tho

>>63898979
All I care about is that it withers up and dies enough that faggot bandwagon freaks like vshojo and Niji CN go kill themselves or jump on another wagon.

>>63900708
She just knows how the internet works. She know how to become viral and show knows how to get clips. Deliberately or subconsciously she gets people to talk about her.
Being in the right place right time and her design helped too, I'm not denying that. But lots of loli chuubas debuted in the 2 years of covid, how come only gura got big?

Next year is an American election year and a new pandemic is already cooking up in China. 2024 will be the next vtubing boom as people are forced back indoors for another year and will be bored with nothing to do.

>>63900057
AIsekai is already at the private virtual gf part.

>>63898979
White Lung lockdowns in 4 months. Golden age 2.0 incoming.

>>63906356
>White Lung lockdowns
huh?

>>63900708
Gura had a cute design, great voice, and a nice personality during Covid lockdowns when people were looking for any hint of optimism. EN idol vtubers were completely novel and it was lighting in a bottle.

>>63898979
As long as there are horny people, technology, and internet, there will be vtubing.
Simple as that.

>>63898979
We are going on this ride until ai sexbots

>>63901753
The majority of Kizuna Ai's fanbase was EOP.

>>63898979
In 2025, all current vtuber groups will be shadows of their former self, expect for Hololive. In 2025, HoloEN will be bigger than HoloJP, because EN embraced it's unicorns fully, while JP tried to get a wider audience and lost both. HoloJP will be force to EOP pander to not be a shadow.

>>63898979
Indies will die. Holo is eternal

>>63900708
Perfect voice, great singer, very good personality, good comedic timing and instincts for funny moments, and just good internet meme instincts in general. Good design too. It was a perfect storm.

>>63901753
based af

>>63907833
Indies already come and go though? People who quit in 2021 and 2022 are just replaced by other indies now. So now, the indie scene won't be dying anytime soon either.

>>63901753
>You haven't watched every second of a bunch of old long-dead chuubas from 2017 ergo you aren't le true vtubing fan
>Have you heard of my oshi? She's an obscure chuuba, Kizuna Ai, you wouldn't know anything about her, filthy EOP peasant
>If you were a true vtuber fan, you would spend 30 hours a week blankly watching livestreams in a language you can't comprehend. That's a very edifying and patrician pastime for a truly intellectual gentleman.
Almost a parody, this post

>>63900708
baby shark song + youtube kids buff

>>63901753
>>63909329
Oh and let's not forget, almost missed this one:
>You aren't a real vtubing fan unless you're a doxfag who seeks out ~the secret knowledge~.
DN, is that you?

>>63898979
How long do you think streaming will be around for?

>>63898979
Vtubing will never cease to exist.

One day you will be lonely, walking in the rain with your overcoat and beat up face.

Staring up the big hologram off the side of a building, you will see a personalised AD from your favourite vtuber.

You will stare her blankly like Ryan Gosling while she seduces you to buy the next gen MEATSMASHER 9000.

Welcome to the year 2049, anon.

>>63909329
>>63909441
>Ironically using EOP as an insult
>While also revealing yourself to be one
Tell me how I know you're a seething esl

I think it'll happen what has happened to irl streamers, specially on Twitch. A few giants raking in money (and even then, a fraction of the pandemic era streaming), and legions and legions of smaller chuubas with less than 30 ccvs who are basically a group of friends

>>63911030
I was making fun of the idea that Kizuna Ai is 1000x folded deep JP lore when she was going viral to western normalfag anime fans on YT back in 2017, anonchama.

>>63904635
Gura also had the blue dorito buff which at the time was also big thanks to Foobs, Korone, Coco, etc, which on itself was also propelled forward by the algo and Covicho19.
Gura's´popularity is pretty much a study case of "she was in the right fucking place at the right fucking time"

>>63898979
the barrier to entry will soon be reduced to nothing
right now it costs money for someone to make you a model and rig it
what happens when anyone can be a vtuber by randomly generating a model?

>>63911581
Right person, right place, right time. Had to be the right person though.
Anyone saying otherwise is just jealous and coping.

>>63898979
NijiEN continues to recline.
HoloEN and other small corpos stagnate and becomes increasingly niche.
Indies and Vshojo will incline from mainstream streamers and creators intermingling with them more and more.
Phase will pivot towards interacting with the indie scene more and perhaps incline from that.

>>63911581
imagine someone else debuting as gura in myth
choose a any gura killer or if bijou applied for myth and got accepted
would altgura get as big if you stacked all those buffs? would myth be as big as it is now?

>>63901694
And people who like today's virtual streamers didn't like Kizuna Ai-style virtual vloggers of 2016. Things change. Audiences move. Get used to it.

>>63912103
>>63911710
Not to take anything away from Gurina, but she existed before hololive and at the time she was the equivalent to what today we know as 2view, hell, I've seen too many people know her only as Gura. Then, why is it, she didn't explode in popularity back then the same way she did as "Gura"?
Have any other Gura killer in Gura's place and I'm pretty sure they would have also hit the 1mil line just on sheer momentum, maybe even the 2mil, hitting the 4mil barrier is the question; that example of Bijou is funny because had she been in Gura's place, I'm sure she would have also crossed the 3mil barrier since the only difference between them is Gura being the better zatsu machine and meme material.

>>63912775
Anon, Gura's previous identity had millions of views and more subs than any Holo at the time.
No joke, unironically: I went to a store the other day (in 2023) and saw a board game that is based entirely around a joke that "notGura" coined. Someone just stole that shit, made a board game out of it, and it was in Target. four years later.
She wasn't a streamer, she made memes, memes that had impacts on presidental campaigns. notGura's memes got airplay on Fox News and CNN.

>>63911668
probably something like what is happening to AI paintings. People who know about the industry stick around and maintain a fanbase, soulless corporations not related to vtubing try to use cheap AI to do everything in an attempt to enter the market, get called out and laughed out of the room. Investors seethe and call for vtubing to be declared a scam.

>>63912984
That's the thing man, she was that big in your pond. Everything else years later was topping global scale regardless of numbers, that was also the reason why most of us thought an EN branch was going to fail hard.
And after all has been said and done, nowadays you can probably ask any new vtuber fan in that same pond and they will not know who Senzy is now, only the memes, just like what happened in real time to Ui's loli requiem more recently.

>>63912775
>bijou 3m barrier
I can't see it. I just can't see her pulling ahead of marine, pekora or mori

>>63913381
Your point makes no sense.
So Gura was a viral meme factory getting millions of views and subs before hololive, and was a viral meme factory getting millions of subs and views within Hololive... and somehow this is suppose to downplay Gura?
Sure, fewer people know who Gura's old identity is now, she has been retired as it for over three years.
>Everything else years later was topping global scale regardless of numbers, that was also the reason why most of us thought an EN branch was going to fail hard.
This sentence doesn't really parse. "Everything else years later was topping global scale regardless of numbers", what are you even talking about

In 2-3 years, vtuber and VRChatter will be synonymous.

>>63901753
unironic ok boomer moment. next you'll be talking about how things were back in your day.

>>63913569
hololive was behind niji in everything back then. Yet they were the ones who the algo pushed to be watched on the west. They didn't have million of views, they didn't have anything notorious, yet the JP talents were the ones who got promoted to be a global phenomenon, that's the idea you dumbass. Numbers did shit then, it was the talents and their clippers.
That aside, how the fuck I'm downplaying Gura when I'm admitting she was and is big? you retards are the ones who are downplaying everyone else in a fucked up tribal faggotry to defend some conundrum that fucking happened just because the stars aligned.

>>63914109
>how the fuck I'm downplaying Gura
You called her a 2view. retard. She was immensely more popular than that.
I'm not trying to downplay everyone else, but it's ridiculous to try to downplay Gura's achievements too.
Hololive has achieved a shitload, Gura was lucky to join, and hololive was lucky to have her, she was a fucking miraculous get for their first EN gen. It was mutually beneficial.

Two years at best

>>63901753
i may have arrived a bit later for kizuna compared to the oldfags in /jp/, but even if i didnt i wouldn't sully her memory by being a faggot like you who makes people feel bad for not getting into vtubers early on. everyone back then wished for the amount of virtual youtubers to grow and become popular, and now here we are, with you complaining about what we have. you dont fucking know how good we have it.

drama baiting, shitposting and sperging threads come with the territory, how many years have you been using 4chin? seems to me you only see these threads because you're a catalogreader in the first place.