/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Gee I wonder why she isn't #1 in the company anymore, takes a real detective to figure that one out

my friend can do whatever she wants

>>63833782
>a FBKing bait thread
Are you fucking retarded OP?

>>63833782
Fubuki gets some of the worst viewership in HoloJP
So yeah they CAN do it, but it has repercussions.

>>63833782
When was the last time she collabed with a male?

>>63833782
I just noticed she's making the same face on both screenshots on top
fucking fbk kek, she looked so retarded back then

>>63833782

>>63833782
Male collabs are always cringe and awful.
But the issue is doing male collabs as a GFE streamer.
>No not wife, we are friend!

>>63833782

>>63833782
>loses a huge portion of her income.
Congrats, you played yourself.

Oh boy, another week, another riveting tale of "unicorns try their hardest to memory-hole or alter male collabs"
>S-she was forced!

Why do so many people on this loser board use reddit memes like the faggot spongebob capslock? Go back you massive anuslicking queer.

>>63833782
bbbut jp, uhm nijification,

>>63833782
>Kiwi Farms is filled with anti unicorns.
>Depressed Nousagi is an anti unicorn.
>Banned vtuber memes and it's discord are anti unicorns.
>okbuddyhololive and it's discord are anti unicorns.
>The drama channels are are anti unicorns.
>Twitter and 4chan are full of anti unicorns.
>Everyone who anti's Hololive are anti unicorns.
Look all around you, look at who is on the same side as you. Do you look the good guys?

>>63834428
This was back when miko had to eat bugs on stream and shit to get viewers. The girls dumped the boys as soon as it was proven that male collabing didn't help them grow their channels. You're basically telling women whose successful path made them millionaires to go back to being broke.

>>63834428
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6h0rbjWx5E

>>63833782
reddit energy

>>63834659
No sister, the answer is that no one cares about this shit because she's not seeking it out, or girls like miko dropped the males once it became clear they were useless. You are just seething because like most women you are worthless and unable to become successful, so instead you try to drag superior girls down with you. Shameless, shameful.

>>63835062
That's a lot of words for "please don't save that picture and remind me next time i pretend my oshi is seiso"

>FBK isn't GFE
>does GFE asmr
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>63833782
Calm down sukonbu, you shouldn't lash out just because your friend turned into a white blob with the new model

>>63835266
i'll sit on the fence for this once. It is GFE- The E being "experience".

>>63833782
Fuck it, just let them all have sex on stream

>>63835266
Girlfriends typically interact with male colleagues in first world countries, after all.

>>63834981
Anti unicorns will make 90% of the threads trying to whip up drama after Selens announcement tonight. I will simply cancel one of my current memberships and watch other girls if it doesn't go my way.
They have always been the biggest dramafags and containment breakers they just point to the worst schizos like gabe or that beady eyed fucker and say all "unicorns" are like that.

If the Chuuba doesn't have a public stream titled "Your ____ Girlfriend ____ You to ______" /vt/ has no ground to seethe at them for male collabs , the CGDCT is a Bullshit excuse

>>63835676
>70% divorce rate
Good riddance

>>63834362
Somebody impregnated this

>>63835676
If you’re girlfriend is going to hang out with her male colleagues all the time, she is cheating on you anon

>>63835245
OOF

>>63833782
Reminder that there are two paths ahead for your oshi. Cover corp has been suggesting and "suggesting" that the girls have to expand their audience through new avenues. They have two options ahead of them. One option for them is to collab with ecelebs, do esports, collab with niji, or star, basically appeal to the an audience who hate Hololive. The other option is to pander to a fanbase that already loves them, the EOP. Management keeps telling the JP members to expand their audience. What better option do they have. They wouldn't have to be that good at English either.

>>63834659
but she repented or something

>>63835245
Saved

>>63836437
How does a few times per year sound?

>>63836437
>you’re girlfriend
kill yourself esl

>>63837184
you'reself*

>>63837351
Yuorsleph*

What with the retarded women takes today on the catalog? Using FBK even.

>>63837351
>you are self
a-am I really?

>>63833969
>Fubuki gets some of the worst viewership in HoloJP
This isn't really true, she routinely breaks 20k and averages more than some girls who never male collab. If you'd said Festival instead you'd have a point but there's more going on there than male collabs.

>>63833782
Debunk what? It is unacceptable.

>>63833782
>Fubuki bait thread
How new?

>>63833782
Now let them now what Fubuki does on the regular in members to appeals her Gachikois (wife asmr, blowjob asmr, flirting asmr). Plus she isn’t like the other prudes, she releases a bunch of cute songs too.

Shitposting aside fubuki's stance has been "no girlfriend, yes friend" since before you were old enough to play with your dick in the sand. She cultivated her audience right, which can't be said about other homocollabers who betrayed their audience after a long con

>>63837737
>Ignores the “yes wife” streams
Another clip watching retarded outed. Hey retarded clip watcher, Kurokami is fubuki as well.

>>63833782
nice shit meme ripped straight from reddit

>>63833895
>anymore
retarded post

>>63837704
>wife asmr, blowjob asmr, flirting asmr
Fuck, i should become a member.

>>63836638
>Cover corp has been suggesting and "suggesting" that the girls have to expand their audience through new avenues
Meanwhile by their own admissions in the investor meetings, the males have not been able to capture even the primary audience they were designed for. Expecting the hologirls to carry the company and juggle their idol audience whilst also capturing esports viewers is insanity.

They are SO bad at this and it is putting undue stress on some of the girls. They make a new branch called dev_IS and rather than have them capture the new audience like people assumed, they get cold feet when the established idol audience treat them with suspicion and immediately pivot to
>Oh no just think of them like JP7 please we were not planning anything

If they had any faith in what they are trying to do they would have made regloss stick it out which would have sucked for them but they already got the short straw being part of the apparently pointless new branch anyway.

>>63834981
Jeez i see why they are so hell bent on raiding /baubau/

>>63833782
im not subbed to her
i dont follow her on twitter
i dont watch her streams
i skip collabs shes part of

she can do what i want but i wont watch her

>>63835245
grim…is this real?

>>63837822
the only clipwatcher here is (you), there's no point in arguing with you if you're THIS retarded

>>63833782
I don't care about fubuki

>>63837965
she can do what she wants*

Only the strong JP girls have control over their audience. EN manchildren riot amd steamroll over the EN girls because they're sad and pathetic
That's why it's only ok when JP does it

>>63837822
>Kurokami is fubuki as well.
And does Kurokami collab with men?

wasn't she number 1 in holo so far ahead of everyone that she felt guilty about it?

>>63835245
AAIIEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>63837914
He's exaggerating. If you ever become a member you'll find out that her ASMR is nothing

>>63835245
It's two sentences, so it's objectively not a lot of words you useless discord sister.

>>63835748
The 'anti unicorns' are seething nijisisters and failed small time vtubers who look at gura and mumei and seethe that they're successful. That's all it's ever been. Failed women.

>>63833782
upvoted my fellow redditor

>>63838269
How heavy are goal posts? I'm sure an expert such as yourself knows this information.

>>63833895
>le number meme
Foobs is literally second in command

>>63838346
It's not just them. Anti unicorns are people who don't want all fans to be equal. They want to be above the other fans. This includes discord mods, doxxers, virtue signalers, talkers not watchers, creepy groomers, and more.

slide thread disguised as agit prop
fubuki isn't a consistent top holo despite herself precisely due

>>63838946
Ai-generated post

>>63838846
Pretty much. They're also all pretty much cuckolds who fantasize about their oshi getting fucked.

>>63838846
>>63839025
WTF are unicorns lgtbq protesters? they numbers are thin and they are going against everyone else in the world

>>63839224
Esl-generated post

>>63839025
is this the fucking ruffian list twitter chat?

>>63839353
Afraid so. It's been infiltrated by actual homobeggars that unironically don't understand that FuwaMoco are the most unicorn-friendly vtubers in all of EN.

>>63839446
Oh i see i am in the list too but i rarely check the chat. Figures they only know how to subvert and destroy.

>>63839446
Aren't a lot of HoloEN unicorn-friendly. Are FuwaMoco really anymore unicorn friendly than them.

>>63834659
If I see Mumei in that Nijifag apex Collab I'm immediately unsubbing.

While I do think male collabs tend to be risky, I'm pretty sure China had the much larger impact on FBK

>>63837914
She has a grape eating ASMR where it sounds like she is giving a blowjob .

Anyways other retards that say im exaggerating is the same retards still spamming Fubuki is cat! crap. Note these are only the public ones, She had to deleted a few of them or put behind members. Others had to be edited losing out on the chat box.

small peices of ASMR of hers that is fav
>tell you she loves you multiple times while giggling
https://youtu.be/ZwM8_hQITrw?t=910
>This whole ASMR stream with Okayu, lots of heavy breathing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYwCLzhOEfE&t=4s
>"Wife ok, No friends' stream, gives you a big wet kiss in the middle of the stream
https://youtu.be/VT3NT2LyKLQ?t=265
>Good ASMR stream, fav part is where she threatened to break up with you and snap one day for you liking other women
https://youtu.be/sHVtY_C6Vh0?t=2164
>Ear Cleaning Asmr if you like that, 2nd portion of the stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuvdEqKK3KY


HOMOBEGGARS NEED NOT APPLY, YOU FAGS ARE THE ONES SPAMMING NO WIFE WHEN SHE SAYS WIFE OK. Also im fucking tired of you faggots trying to piggyback my wife to promote your faggots.

>>63839723
Oh no, not one less greyname.

>>63839723
Its probably extremely likely. She is Selen's friend after all

She does what she wants. At the end of the day, she's still one of the bigger members of Hololive that gets sponsorships and such regularly.

GFE gets you a lot of money and viewership, but realistically the audience for GFE is not the audience you want for widespread success. You want the general public to support you. They may not pay as much individually through the SCs and membership, but the sheer number of supporters mean you'll earn more than enough, the sponsorship deals from sponsors will cover the rest.

>>63839320
>EsL-g3n3rAt3d p0sT
stfu

>>63839829
Can you explain to me what the point of being a Fubuki unicorn is when she already collabs with males will inevitably continue to do so? You're fighting a battle that's already lost.

>>63840083
Just pick a side and die by it.

>>63840083
that's why Gura, Marine and Pekora are less successful than Fubuki, it all makes sense

>>63840212
I think the whole unicorn thing is autistic, but she hasn't collabed with a guy in a long time.

>>63840436
that can’t be true. Discord told me (I don’t have time to watch streams myself, sorry) that she was the based unicorn-slayer who btfos the parasocials in the REAL spirit of hololive, which I am a fan of (in theory).

>>63840561
3 min clip that i saw in youtube supports this as well

>>63840083
first paragraph wasn't schizophrenic babble

>>63840436
She had a duet with a male like a year ago. She doesn't spam male collab streams but I just don't understand the point of sticking around and doing unicorn stuff if the person is proven they'll do it regardless.

>>63840561

>>63839716
A lot of them are, but FuwaMoco take it to autistic extremes. For example, they were in the chat for every single ID 3D, and they chatted throughout the entire duration. During Kobo's live, she brought out the homos and FuwaMoco IMMEDIATELY disappeared and didn't even tweet about it.

>>63840827
and they refused to do fashion for m*les during the fashion dreamer stream i never kneeled so hard

>>63840203
Ok ESL :)

>>63840653
>She had a duet with a male like a year ago.
I would consider that a long time ago, yes. But again I don't care about male collabs, I'm just pointing out why unicorns would still watch her.

>>63840212
It because people lie to you about this whole unicorns thing. People love their oshi and people like girls only. Not liking male collabs has nothing to do with being in love with your oshi. People don't like male collabs because people don't like male collabs. It's about keeping Hololive girls only. Fubuki barely does any male collabs, and when she does, she knows how to act during them. Fubuki has also show that she will not try not change Hololive.

>>63840827
I am already a member you don't have to sell them to me.

>>63840353
>Gura
>Marine
>Pekora
>of all talents
The 3 of them has popularity with the general public not just because they don't do male collabs.
Gura and Pekora are fun entertainers in their own right. Pekora in particular is very comedic.
Marine is an excellent conversationalist who manages to even build a strong female fanbase through her sheer talking skills.
Its external factors like that which give them the massive public support they have which in turns brings in the sponsors.

>>63840944
Okay. If unicorns are actually fine with them doing duets with the Stars and occasional stream collabs I wouldn't find them so obnoxious, unfortunately that's not what I usually hear from them.

>>63835245
NOOOOOOOOOOO, but she isn't seeking to interact with them! Those sexpests were the ones trying to get into her pussy!

>>63841137
Nta but you're normally hearing falseflaggers

>>63840827
If it's about the disappearing from chat when the stars are on screen, then others in EN would do the same.

>>63840083
Collab beggars are not the general public. The general public likes girls only.

>>63840212
im the actual anon who posted the asmr stuff. Im dont consider myself a unicorn. I like her not the homos that keep getting shilled constantly trying to use her as some Joan of Arc when she hardly interacts with them.

She collabs with the other Hologirls 50 times for every homo collab but thats all these parasites talk about. Like no faggot, i enjoyed her splatting with IRyS, Okayu and Flare yesterday just fine.

>>63833782
>getting mad over Roberu and Oga
>rare Fubuki bait thread
Look at this kitty. Look at it.

>>63834362
Looks like one of those "Mandela catalogue" entities.

>>63841461
I get to fuck this btw

>>63841279
Thats just one example. They also streamed over all of the homo debuts, skip any superchat MENTIONING Holostars, and unfollowed every single Star/Star-adjacent account the moment they got control of their Twitter.
They literally pretend that Hololive is only girls.

>>63841494
That's cool Lamy.

She's not popular because she collabs with men and if this isn't true for a vtuber I just ignore her

>>63841272
I don't think it's actually true that all the unicorn posts are really coming from homobeggars. I do think that a lot of unicorns are larping but at some point the larp becomes indistinguishable from reality.

>>63841117
What exactly is your point here? Fubuki is also a great entertainer, are you implying she's not as successful because she's not as good as the 3?

>>63841117
They are good but nothing special. For example, Raden shits all over Marine as being good 'conversationalist' but you don't see her being above Marine.

>>63840353
Pekora literally asked for an ugly bastard hypnotist to molest herself, Marine, Noel, and Polka for her birthday.

>>63841511
>and unfollowed every single Star/Star-adjacent account the moment they got control of their Twitter.
kek that's funny as fuck

>>63841511
Hololive IS only girls. HoloPro is not. An unfortunate distinction thats blurred to try and associate the Stars with Hololive even though they have their own branding.

>>63835266
Fubuki not being gfe is an eop meme

>>63841461
Okay I'm looking.

>>63841599
It was even funnier to see it happen live.
>>63841615
I wish Cover saw it this way. The official HoloEN twitter was being shat up with homos during their debuts.

>>63839829
>gives you a big wet kiss in the middle of the stream
h-hot...

>>63841729
they really think this kinda shit brings more attention to thr homos and it does, bring more hate their way

>>63841559
That's literally what I typed lmao

>>63841729
Who gives a shit what's on the HoloEN Twitter? They're promoting their product. Watch whatever streams you want but you don't have to seethe every time you see a homo on Twitter.

>>63841835
A larp and a falseflag is not the same thing.

>>63841853
where am I supposed to get my HOLOLIVE news if the HOLOpro account tweets homos 20 times more than the girls and even the HOLOLIVE JP account tweets homos too

>>63841908
You must first larp in order to falseflag.
Larping is a prerequisite of any believable falseflag

>>63841511
That's kind of the direction HoloEN is moving in general. I think a few other members unfollowed every single Star account and skip superchat mentioning Holostars.

>>63834981
No, but it’s correct to be the bad guys.

>>63841559
American Holo fans are in love with their oshi and like girls only, but those two concepts are not related. They don't like male collabs but it's not because their in love with their oshi.

>>63842080
People will believe whatever falseflag want to believe. For example a lot of people seem to believe the OP sincerely posted a blatant reddit meme to support the homos, on 4chan, because that's what they want to believe homobeggars are like.
What I mean when I say most unicorns are larping is that most of the things they say are, at best, exaggerations of their real views.

>>63834981

>>63843102
Yes unicorns are right

>>63843373
It's easy to always be right, when you keep changing your answer, or "mantra"
>Started at no simping, sexpesting, or slut talking about males they are directly conversing with
>Then downgraded to no males in 1 on 1 collabs
>Then further downgraded to no collabing with males (corpo backed or otherwise)
>Once again, now it's no conversing with/about males in chat
>Now it's no acknowledgement of males ever
They can freely shift up and down this slow decay of their standards
>Oh mumei collab'd with males? well it's okay because she didn't know it'd be a male collab
>Oh it was 100% voluntary? Well it was just a 1 time thing
>Oh she's done it multiple times? well it's okay because it was a corpo mandated one

>>63834981
the enemy of my enemy is not my friend

>>63843563
What you are describing are gachis coping and reasoning why they should continue watching their oshi which is 99% of the EN fanbase including all the people who dropped Ame and Kronii and went through some of this exact cope.
The absolutist unicorn mindset people pretend to be and argue against constantly on this board might as well not exist for EN and shouldn't be defended because real unicorns are more concerned with dox shit anyway.

It doesn't mean people are all larping though, gachis don't like or want male collabs either, neither do most normie hololive viewers even if they are not vocalising it on imageboards. The difference is they are just not going to jettison their oshi the first time things don't go their way.

The unicorn strawman is the easiest way for the sisters to shit on all parasocial viewers and is also one of the easiest ways to be a shitposting anti for other girls.
Expect to see a lot of both of these tactics in 20 mins or so.

>>63834981
I thought the unicorns were the majority though

>>63833782
>Debunk this
That top rule only applies to EN.

>>63833895
fpbp

>>63833782
FBK likes girls so it's okay.

>>63845118
Silent majority.

>>63833782
I can’t tell the difference between Homobeggars and Unicorns anymore. They both obsessively follow males but only ever save their worst vitriol for the girls. Homocollabs might have meant something a year ago but now it just feels antis role playing.

>>63846231
t. homobeggar
this has to be one of the weirdest larps

For the life of me, I’ll never understand why people shit their pants so much over male collabs. I can get not wanting to watch them out of preference and that’s fair, but to hold it as a stain against any girl who acknowledges the girls existence is just a bizarre obsession

https://youtu.be/b1cBNwHFxLQ?si=yqEG8RF7mAV2iUQT

>>63846497
This is something that isn't often discussed, but let me guess, you're probably part of the majority that only catch the streams when you have time, when you remember or when they pop up on your dashboard, and you don't catch up on VODs.
Many people won't watch a show if there's a single incomplete episode, especially in today's world of Netflix and such. It's not difficult to imagine that there is a significant group that considers it an unspoken given to be completionist when it comes to viewing their oshi's streams, and the need to drop a single episode and thus lose 'continuity' renders the entire experience worthless.

>>63846497
No one hates on Bae for collab with males. Really, half of it is that people just really don't like anticorns. The other half is that, for most fans, the girls only thing is fundamental to the enjoyment of Hololive.

>>63834362
what the fuck

>>63846497
Cause I just want to watch cute girls playing games and singing songs with other cute girls. It's really that simple.

>>63847566
>No one hates on Bae for collab with males
>Called Bae Roberu's cock sleeve after their collab and anti'd her in her own chat
revisionism sure can be fun

>>63846497
It's a bit deeper than that, there is no intrinsic value to homo collabs and most of the girls only did them woth ulterior motives, like Ame and Kronii, who did it to own their fans and prove that they can't be controlled just to slither back when they saw the money drying up, and like Ollie who did them to "break the walls" between hololive and holostars, why? She doesn't even know, and know that her fans left she's crying that nobody watches her anymore and contemplated graduation. There's also mori, who is in both of these categories, who also slithered back and started doing lewd thumbnails and spammed GFE ASMR when her numbers irreversibly went down, now clinging to Advent open VCs for viewership. There are outliers, like Bae, who only does them because her oshi is roberu, not to own her fans, while also managing to be one of the actual idols on the EN side. And then there's a plethora of collateral damage done by homocollabers inviting/tricking unicorn friendly girls into kneecapping their careers.

>>63848041
she got anti'd in her own chat?

>>63833782
i got no steak in this but why the lazy reddit meme couldnt you be more creative

>>63848041
>>63848438
>called roberus cocksleeve
If you hang out in /#/ and go looking for shitposts sure
>anti'd in her own chat
never happened.

Don't shitpost with my waifriend

>>63849170
little late for that comment their chief

>>63844247
>The absolutist unicorn mindset people pretend to be and argue against constantly on this board might as well not exist for EN and shouldn't be defended
Because this is how unicorns actually behave, and have to behave.
The only weapon that unicorns have is to pitch a fit or oshihen whenever there's a male collab, that's it, it doesn't really matter what they believe specifically.
And because it's about the direction of Holo in general, they have to do the same thing for girls who aren't their oshi, or who they don't even watch.
The polarized position flows automatically from the premise because you have no actual leverage beyond shitting your pants and creating a conflict where nuance is impossible.

>>63849446
>no actual leverage
>>>>>>
see, all the girls who lost their revenue after being whores, you're not making a good point

>>63849713
I don't believe Kronii actually gives a shit if she went from 8k average to 5k average from collabing with Vesper. If it had happened mostly silently she would just chalk it up to the pandemic ending. She does care that she had to go through fans pitching a fit and calling her a whore and oshihening. Obviously any content creator is going to try to maximize their audience but stressful events like this are way more impactful in their mindspace.

>>63849446
Advent literally proves that "unicorns" won in the end. It's kinda strange how Cover managed to bring in 5 girls that haven't so much as mentioned the homos on stream, and have 0 plans to ever collab with them.

They have such a pleasing contrast in their colors

>>63850435
Well then maybe she shouldn't have thrown a bitch fit first? Betraying your fans after deciding on something together, in a member stream no less, and then going to management to run damage control wasn't the smartest course of action. This is why I dislike both her and Ame, this is less about the homos for me and more about lack of accountability and a spine, made your bed? Fucking lie in it

Collabing with JP males is fine because theyre basically women anyways

>>63851056
>Well then maybe she shouldn't have thrown a bitch fit first?
because kronii is such a well adjusted individual..

>>63848693
so you're saying.. that anon is lying?

>>63841117
>>63840353
>Gura

>>63834362
What genetic disorder causes this?

>>63833782
Fubuki has never been unicorn friendly, there's a reason she calls you "friend"

>>63851893
I don't get it

>>63834659
She basically just made incoherent noises all stream and didn't talk to them.