/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>63764207
I guess you missed Chris, Aloe, Coco and Rushia? Plus a million other things no one talks about here like "cold chicken".

by not streaming i guess

>>63764207
Rushia was a bigger yab than talents not getting their silver buttons or whatever "yabs" Niji gets into.

Oh hey, look at all of these post.
I wonder who was behind them.

They pissed off an entire country, the fuck you mean avoiding big yabs?

>>63764207
>he doesnt know

>>63764207
An expert has failed more times than a rookie has tried.

>>63764207
Cover has plenty of yabs they are just good at running damage control. Talents have gotten bored with Hololive and skipped out on a 3D anniversary collab. Talents have lost their temper and told viewers they are wasting their lives watching Hololive. Talents have shown a Taiwan flag which escalated into a fight with China which resulted in an entire branch getting shut down. Their have been several mysterious "graduations" in both Hololive and Holostars where talents were obviously fired and paid shills did their best to convince people they wanted to leave. That doesn't even get into the Mel incident where she had to hire a lawyer that got the police involved because Cover wouldn't fire her manager and resulted in major policy changes.

>>63764207
cause they do it with iron fist and content control

>everything that holo vtuber does is ok
>everything they any non holo vtuber does is a yab
it's that easy

>>63764888
Rushia wasn't so much a yab as Rushia being retarded, COVER and Rushia still choose peace in the end with a joint statement.
Niji's Zaion was a bad breakup where both the liver and AnyColor hate each other. Not to mention 2% and no playbutton are AnyColor's fault rather than the livers'.

>>63766574
that is right nijifag, you know your place.

>>63764575
>Chris
Retard. There wasn't any ya, nobody know shit about her.

>>63764207
Because they're Hololive?
Squeaky clean "Apple of Vtubers" image is their modus operandi, it's what they pay their management to coordinate and what's probably ensured in every contract signed.
That's not to say that there's never been incidents, but they have protocol for dealing with that too.

>>63766574
>>63766624
Basically this, they have pulled an Apple and turned being a fan of the brand into cult-like status. Hololive can't make a mistake because whatever Hololive does is right.

>>63769272
how did they make that happen?

>>63769376
>main reason
Doubling down with an army of Lawyers. You try to smear them they will let you know the time of the day.
>meme reason
Pandering to SEA and SA weebs. SEA morbidly worship the Japanese for some reason. They can't do no wrong.

>>63769376
Easy, they pay more to the talents than any vtuber company, this result in more fans happiness than investor happiness after it was revealed that investor want to revised their remunation plan but yagoo said no

>>63769376
I honestly think it was accidental. They didn't really do anything that special marketing-wise, they just entered into the niche world of really autistic anime fans who like to latch onto stuff. Those guys who used to have a shrine in their apartment dedicated to a random anime character from a show that ended a decade ago are now obsessed with a new "anime" that is constantly progressing and won't stop anytime soon.

>>63764575
>no one talks
Is literally part of her merch and is even in her tamagochi.

>>63764207
they cover it up

>>63764575
I love how often Chris is mentioned, when there's barely anyone here who knew about Hololive when it happened. It almost sounds like a shitty creepypasta, the weird thing being that it isn't one.

I love reading these threads and seeing just how unhinged and deranged holoantis are in their perception of reality. You'd think hololive was the fucking illuminati or elders of zion based on retards like >>63769885

>>63769885
the amount of down syndrome in this post is unfathomable

Rushia lol

The actual answer is this board is full of easily asshurt redditors who will just scream "BUY AN AD" or "HOLO VS HOLO" or "unfunny miko meme" and try to memoryhole it when Vana Chugger, annoying filipina member of holoen gen 5 and Fats McKensive, annoying filipino member of holostars gen 8 are found to be bumping uglies in yagoo's 3D room.

>>63772632
Maybe it's just me but I feel like I've seen Chris get compared to a Creepypasta a fair bit recently, not that it doesn't feel accurate.

>>63766251
>policy changes
>still employing male managers
lol lmao etc

>>63764207
>no 3D anniversary Holo not live

>>63764207
money and government support. anyone who tries to expose the yabs disappears. there have been large yabs. i want to believe.

>>63776928
Holo did way worse in every way possible. They hired a minor, had rapist manager, doxxed one of their vtubers, mysteriously laid off one of their vtubers. Many of their employees come from the AV industry. Didn't publicly protect 4 of their vtubers against angry mob. Quarantined one of their vtubers (Japanese way of punishing an employee) to save a foreign market. and the list goes on.

>>63777104
Cover made changes to which employees can access personal schedules of Hololive talents. Mel's manager was able to stalk her because any employee could access their schedules so even after being assigned to a different talent he still knew her entire schedule. They only made changes after the police investigation which only happened because she hired a lawyer.

>>63764575
Retard

>>63777240
>shit, that orange one is making us look bad again!
>SIX HOLOX 3D LIVES!
>HOLOX MERCH!
>HOLOX ANIME!
>PLEASE LOOK FORWARD TO EVEN MORE HOLOX 3D LIVES NEXT YEAR!
Worst part is, it fucking worked. EN is clearly getting fucked over, but nobody cares any more, because Cover distracted people with the jingling keys. Hell, they were probably the reason why she was complaining in the first place, because holy shit, there has never been a more perfect example of favoritism than HoloX.

>>63778604
HoloX is also getting their own anime.
Cope and seethe

They don’t? People just memoryhole them.

Kiara basically made sure EN will never be taken seriously, if anyone else spoke up MAYBE something would have happened but she just had to be the one to ruin it

>>63770303
Bssed peko

>>63766251
everything you said is false

>>63770303
What the fuck, why is she making fun of her own fans?

>>63780019
She is making fun of herself, not her fans.

>>63769376
By actually having a likable CEO that the talents themselves are chill with and actually paying their talents more than other VTuber companies.
Simply put; they’re likable. Likability tend to take you a lot places.

>>63778604
I wait for the day they nuke EN and fused EN+ID with only japanese speaker (not Kiara)

>>63769946
>They pay more to the talents than any vtuber company

>>63770144
Really it's just Wrestling for Weebs, it even has Kayfabe.

Except instead of John Cena entering the ring to do the AA on the heel of the day they sit down and play Mario Kart.... actually I'd laugh if Wrestlers too old to Wrestle start doing Esports in the ring.

>>63780787
vtuber company, not vtuber brothel

>>63781119
You’re thinking of Idol, thats Vshojo

>>63766251
>Talents have lost their temper and told viewers they are wasting their lives watching Hololive.
qrd? who and when?

>>63764207
Because they get ignored. If any smaller corpo treated their vtubers like Cover treated Coco it would kill them.
Also, most of the yabs that have happened to them happened when they were irrelevant so they didn't suffer any reputational damage. Nobody cares about Mel's manager or the Hitomi Chris debacle because they happened before the Holo boom.

Cover's process of scouting talents (at least on the Hololive side) is on another level.
Whatever they're doing, it makes sure their talents are yab-free as possible.
Other companies should learn from them.

>>63777240
Now that we got the ball rolling on 3D debuts I think the lack of EN+ID 3D is the only thing Cover's really dropped the ball on as of late and it looks really bad when compared to >>63778604. On that note while I think it's great that HoloX gets a lot of support, when compared to just about any other gen it makes HoloX look like the favorite child.

>>63783719
I wonder which one of them sucked all the upper management cock

>>63783017
Nobody cares because it's not relevant anymore and only schizos and antis bring it up.

>>63764207
Because their fanboys are willing to take anything with a smile.

>>63784080
but enough about niji

>>63764575
>Talent terminated almost immediately
>Talent harassed and bullied into graduation and nearly killed themselves
>One of the biggest talents graduated
>Talent that was a money machine was terminated for leaking company info and manager chat logs

>Lamy Janitor
>Holocaust
>Miko near graduation
>Nene near graduation
>Hachamma near graduation
>All of gen 1 flirted with graduation at some point
>Mel's manager
>Marine and Miko doujin incident
>Pekora breakdown on stream

It is wild Cover has steered through so much shit.

>>63766251
To be fair Delutaya has said multiple times it was her choice to leave... that being said Cover wasn't working very hard to keep her from the sound of it and seemed to just shove her out the door... which in hindsight nearly bit them harder then anything ever.

By her own admission if anyone (like her genmates who were not aware this was going on) told her to stay she would have. Also the fact they have tried to wipe her off of everything despite her have a graduation.

>>63779590
shes like a twitter sjw, she thinks speaking up publicly against cover will make cover bend the knee.

>>63764207
In all honesty most yabs are just autistic retards here screeching the only thing close to an actual yab is rushia having a menhara episode and Coco saying Taiwan exists.

Everything else is either schizo nonsense or unicorns seething so you tell me OP

I think you forgot the riot games event where nobody cheered and the grand blue fans being pissed that vtubers invade their event.

>>63784664
>Miko near graduation
>Nene near graduation
>Hachamma near graduation
>All of gen 1 flirted with graduation at some point
Good thing money fixes everything.

>>63780705
>All but the one I don't like
You're fucking retarded. She'd be there the second it happened and you'll still be seething even though you got what you supposedly wanted.

>>63764207
It's simple, just don't go full retard

>>63764207
Because jannies can't stop deleting any damning posts

>>63764888
major fucking seethe

sometimes it's not the majorness of the yab and how many fucking times it happens within the span of a month.

>>63785015
Around the time Aloe graduated they were leaving refrences to her left right and centre including putting her in artwork for upcoming events.

>>63764207
skill
get good

>>63769376
By succesfully pandering to EOPs first.
Hololive probably doesn't have as good of a reputation in nipland where they, for example, understand everything La+ does and says.

>>63784664
Looking at this list it's actually really interesting how the majority of the yabs were caused by straight up harassment waves by NND/niji/CNfags of old and not really something on the part of the talent or the company.

>>63789168
How did that happen when Shizuka Rin and Hana had the blessing of Pewdiepie and Mick Gordon? How was Nijisanji not able to capitalize on great opportunities?

>>63784664
Miko near graduation?

>>63764575
Easy, Yagoo just removes the trash once they yab. Holo is so much better without all of these fags

>>63790156
Rin didn't want EOPs and Hana didn't want to be a foreigner beating natives in their own branch.
Nijisanji failed to capitalize on it by not doing anything and letting the talents kill the opportunities themselves.

>>63764207
By putting women in their place.

>>63790172

> Part of a project just like INNK

> Project canned cuz noone gave a shit

>18000 subsciber on her 1st year anniversary. Lowest of the entire company

>Got her teaching license.

> Mio convinced her to stay with tarrot cards

Had she leave at that point in time it could have triggered an exodus with multiple members leaving

>>63784664
>Miko near graduation
>Nene near graduation
qrd? i know about all the others in excruciating detail but i can't remember those two

>>63793158 me
oh the project, anon above (seconds before my reply) explained it
but what about nene?

>>63793080
> Mio convinced her to stay with tarrot cards
the witch....

>>63793080
I remember the stream where she was unsure about her future in the company but missed the part about her getting a teaching license and a tarot reading by Mio.

Tarot is quite something.
It contains the wisdom of the world.

For me that time was more about Miko being unsure of her real self and finally allowing herself to embrace her childish side.
When she finally accepted it her life changed.
https://streamable.com/0t8s9i

>>63783290
It really isnt. Hololove just has a more aggressive legal team in japan and mod autists /here/, so that despite the constant roommate yab happenings that are just as bad and just as often as any given smallcorp, no one is allowed to discuss it too loudly or connect it to the holo.

>>63793158
>>63793332
I know Nene is working through depression but I can't think of anything beyond the tracing incident which nowadays most anons only remember when they want to be mad about Iofi.

>>63793636
God i love Miko so much

>>63764575
fpbp

>>63794195
I remember her 3D getting delayed for months and all the dumb managers they kept giving gen 5. I'll also assume she had problems with the usual cover shit, like letting them put lots of work into a project then randomly cancelling it

>>63764888
A corpo repeatedly (and STILL) stealing from its employees is bigger than one employee getting fired for being a fucking retard.

>>63793677
hololive is the Scientologists of of vtubbing, an ultra powerful cult with lawyers that harass anything critical of them and have infiltrated all "governments" (social networks) like 4chan moderation. watch your post get deleted by holoshill mods.

>>63794870
Any corpo that "takes a cut" from their employees is stealing from their employees holoshill. it doesn't matter if it's 100 dollar or 1000000 dollars

>>63780787
Why would 100% of 100$ worth more than 50% of 100,000$ again?
Even the vshojo yt member concert was leaked and it got less than 9000 members watching.

>>63795116
Anon those numbers were fake you literally can't tell how many people are watching a privated stream lol why do you think numbers never touch on that?

Regardless, by that metric, Nijisanji's 2% would be an incredible deal better than almost anything else. Considering people like Mysta were able to buy a house off his 2%, and Nina was about to go on a several months long vacation traveling the world without working once. Nobody's talking about raw numbers when they say "who pays the most" they're talking percentages, and in that regard Cover loses to VShojo.

>>63764207
They're very much like Nvidia in the PC space. They have just as many driver and part failure issues as the competition. But when you both play the SEO game so well that technical issues get buried on google, and when you have a rabid fanbase that defends you no matter what, you can get away with whatever bullshit you want.

>>63764207
they don't
but what they do have is luck

>>63796163
Works on my machine

>>63793677
Holo's worst yabs are Coco, Rushia and Magni/Vesper yab.
While Niji gets the same level of those yabs almost monthly.
Even if Holo girls makes mistakes, like accidentally leaking A WHOLE discord server, people can't find any faults because the girls are professional enough not to put any shit out of there.
That just shows the girls work ethic compared to other corpos out there.

>>63796163
this. hololive does the same thing as scientologists. deep pockets to manipulate media, lawyers to shut down opposition, and fanatical devotees willing to die for you.

>>63796306
Does Niji have anything on the magnitude that was the chink out

>>63796306
On top of my head, the Kindred meltdown.
On the JP side, the lawsuits between talents and the frequent Graduations.

>>63796405
>>63796536

>>63796405
Niji resistance probably, it got kill and next years if it's true, nijisanji management will solidify their position and kill any effort of resurrect it. Only the top dog will have the privilage while the pleb liver fight for resource.

>>63796306
>the girls work ethic
I like how how other vtubers surprised when they saw holomems antics.
Like the bewilderment of livers when subaru explain cover or how flabbergasted ui was when she found out lamy and luna meet each other for the first time yet they handhold, hug and kiss on public.

>>63794990
Are you a commie?

>>63795635
>they're talking percentages
You might aswell put VOMS with that logic.

>>63793080
>Had she leave at that point in time it could have triggered an exodus with multiple members leaving
doubt.jpg

>>63796397
>>63794932
schizo

>>63799655
>N-word was the root
>No Miko no Hololive popularity boost
Many Holomembers said they were expecting only stay 2-3 years in Hololive as career.

>>63764207
Stealth suspensions.
Every time.

>>63764207

>>63800300
No doubt some might've left sooner or later, but it wouldn't have been because of Miko and it certainly wouldn't have been an exodus. At the time of Miko's first anniversary Hololive was already growing steadily and everyone was doing well enough to live off vtubing.
Besides, the nigga clip wasn't the only reason Hololive started experiencing rapid growth. Coco would've been there to bring in EOPs, the Youtube algorithm would've still given Koro-san the corona boost, and Tama/Sio didn't need Miko to sabotage .Live and many other popular vtubers.

>>63764207
Unironically, connection with the yakuza

>>63784664
Half of these aren't even actual yabs holy retard.
If you want an actual yab then there's Nene's tracing yab but everyone forgot about it.

>>63764207
They got it all out of their system in 2019-2020

>>63800633
Just like vesper was stealth suspended right

>>63801521
Pointing out an exception is not an argument anon

>>63789164
They all look like rejects
>inb4 obligatory holo-cult'y pissed diaper reply

>>63784664
>yabs
>posts some shit that has nothing to do with them
Oh yeah this is a nijiseethe thread

>Every Holo yab ever
>Yeah, that doesn't count because it's OK when Holo does it
>Wait, did Meloco just say Luca has a big dumpy... ON STREAM!?
>Guys, everyone we have a big yab!!!
>Quick, spam the catalog!

>>63801665
>rejects
Anon those are asians

>>63801329
To be fair, they would count as yabs if they happened to certain other agencies.

>>63764207
They don't. They're big enough and full of yes-man fans so they can keep ignoring most of them.

>>63764575
Now compare that to the amount of graduations and terminations from other corpos since the last one of those happened.

>>63778604
Seethe harded, chickenfucker!

>>63801665
>rejects
the target audience, yes

>>63778604
SEETHE
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>>63780019
When the cold chicken happened she kinda took a jab at antis because they were talking shiy saying she had a bf, but at the same time she apologized to her fans because despite the antis making up things she noticed real nousagis who were just very sad because they wanted to spend Christmas with her and they ended up alone.
In Japan Christmas is a very sad date for single people, more so otaku. They literally doompost about it.

>>63764575
Didn't happen.
If it happened, they deserved it.

>>63766251
Shit. Depending on what you consider yabs Kiara talks about something cover is absolute ass at like 3-4 times a year
>It can take a year+ to hear back on projects
>EN is denied solo concerts
>EN are basically in charge of managing each other for things like sponsorships and 3d events
>Cover is absolute ass at providing people stuff offline
Etc etc

>>63794807
Well he original outfit was having too much Chinese influence and this was right after the Taiwan shit. So they had to rebuild it from scratch with the Nene 2.0 Design.

>>63793636
Mio knows what the cards show and does the real magic of interpreting them. She's done it more than a few times after all.

>>63790304
You now remember the severed timeline where Rin capitalized that country roads clip to pander to kaigainikis and hololive is teetering to obsolescence.

>>63804926
this is literally a "you're hololive but we do not grant you a seat at the council" situation kek
not a semi-permanent resident in nipland? too bad, we only do shit under our grorious country laws

>>63766574
Yes, which is a corollary of
>everything a JP girl does is ok
>everything any non JP girl does is a yab
Will people ever learn this basic rule?