/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

she was a failure and still is.

She spent it all on benzos

Buy an ad

Like what the fuck yo.
Even though she hasn't posted shit all her youtube channel should still be earning 1600USD a month.
If she was active it would be a lot more.
>>63573703
Fuck off idol shill, her DIY youtube channel has videos with 6 million views and people are just discovering her now.

How in the fuck. She got used for sure. I think she was too young to realize she could monitize her channel.

>>63573785
I'm just a leaf who knows a bit too much about vtubers since I work in an adjacent industry and I know a fleece job when I see one.
She didn't need idol corp, they needed her and they fumbled it.

>>63573623
I'll make you a deal. Next bake, you rename this to /whore/ and I'll let it slide

>>63573859
Dumb leaf

>>63573865
>>63573901
Shills are out in force. Go away idolEN, we can see you.
Even after almost a year of working under a different name for idolEN she still has 52,000 active monthly listeners.
Even LolaLoading/YFU was struggling to get that at first.

>>63573865
All I'm seeing from her previous content is that IdolEN knew what she was all about from day 1 and they're trying to fucking say like they didn't know she was menhara and liked to drink and party.
her literal original song uses a bottle of cheap vodka and her thumbnails have alcohol in them. Like you just know bro.
It's so weird how fucking genuine this is, like you just know.

>>63574434
A lot of people do change their content when joining a corpo, and sometimes even themselves. But Riro Ron underperformed and only supressed/hid her worse tendencies, it seems. That and having a lead talent manager (who had been involved in drama before) who is in a "secret relationship" with a talent makes the whole corpo look questionable.

>>63573785
This is by far the most retarded meme on this board and you can tell the people posting it are from reddit
>NOT HAVING AD BLOCK

>>63573623
>She should be making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year right now!?
With what, views on old Youtube covers? People who watch that shit have adblockers on more often than the average internet user, and they don't get that many views anymore.

>>63575062
>. But Riro Ron underperformed and only supressed/hid her worse tendencies, it seems.

What TF you mean?! You mean suppressed her BEST, most popular tendencies?

She was literally MORE successful on her own, and idolcorp is supposed to MARKET HER BETTER. That's literally their job! To manage and market the talent, and they did worse than a depressed Russian/Spanish chick with a drinking problem could do on her own.
She is SO much better off.

idolcorp is the ones who fucked up here. I really hope she's not still with her old manager on the DL because he's toxic AF and was 100% using her as an easy lay.
100% most dramaworthy yab ever.

>>63575254
Reminder she joined Idol cause she couldn't become a VTuber by herself. She needed them. She also spoke very highly of them recently on her half year anniversary. Mald all you want, at least Idol fans don't have to worry their oshi will OD herself

>>63573901
I'll take it.

>>63575650
>she needed them
Anon, are you retarded?
her old channel has half a million subs.
They needed her.

>>63575771
>>63575650
lol. Lmao even.

Bros I think we got this all wrong.
I think idol was fucking her over and she got sick of it.
I think it's possible she blew the whole thing up on her own so she could earn from her old channel.
She was 100% better off before.

Okay. Go watch her content then.

>>63573623
buy an ad

>>63573623
remember when everyone thought she was bae

>>63576061
I think I will!
At least we know we have a chance!

>>63579164
Nice now she will finally stop averaging 150 viewers and reach 151

This bitch is now a literal rockstar of vtubing.
If she doesn't come back she's an idiot.

>>63578425
She's definitely not Bae but she's certified "u can fix her anon" tier now.

>>63579235
You said it. This is mad capitalize moment.
She's the Amy Whinehouse of vtubing.
>idol said go to rehab and I said no no no

>>63574434
I remember when ppl was comparing her to Senzawa

anyone know how many ig subs she has or if she has posted anything there recently?

>>63579429
I mean, that's a pretty fucking good complement considering who that became.
Also little nii.

any based anons want to poast member stream links

>>63579241
no, I mean people thought she was hakos baelz before she debuted

>>63580029
Also a massive complement

>>63573865
This. Not even as an insult. I don't want to peak into /eien/ to get Riifucorp updates.

I guess none of you care

>>63587070
What's there to say? I'm subbed to her and am hoping she streams there as a chuuba. Waiting for updates.

So does she have any porn

>>63579365
So you think she'll OD and die young?

>>63573623
bro the Dorime cover was HER??? I've had that on my playlist for years and never realized.

>>63579241
thats what the idol contract was supposed to be retard, she had a druggie melty during the russia ukraine ordeal and disappeared off the internet for a year then was "rehabbed" for idol
of course we all knew it was doomed when we saw the retarded model for riro and her inability to speak english

>>63575860
If so, there's no reason for the twitter shutdown. That whole thing with 'manager relationship' definitely is super suspect.

I'm probably a little rarded, cause I never realized I was listening to her music beforehand, maybe it's an accent thing cause I assumed kyO was American or something.

>>63591366
Yep.

>>63573623
How do people still think subs and video views equates to success as a livestreamer? S*nz*w* had a big channel too and yet her streams were pretty low view. A lot of the people who click on viral videos are not the same type of people who will sit down and watch you stream live for 4 hours.

One question, wasn't there a YouTuber who once used her music in his videos? Elrubius could it be? or am I wrong?

>>63591366
It's basically impossible to OD on benzos. If you look at overdose deaths there's almost none based on benzos alone, and very few involving benzos + alcohol, it's almost entirely benzos + opioids.

Normally these events end with me disliking either the chuuba or the corpo, but Aviel did the right thing and I want to pay ky0 to masturbate on stream.

>>63593546
I hope all goes well for everyone.

>>63573623
I've seen this board prop up Ky0 as the perfect hire candidate for so many corpos over the years, even idol was going mental back when she got announced. The fact she ended up pulling off total career suicide rushia style is confusing

sooo... Kyo is a Lolcow for the Vtuber community, right?

>>63594144
go back nigger

>>63594254
huh, why? i'm just asking

>>63594143
funny thing is she wasn't even much of a draw for idol, she was a low 3 view and made by far the least amount of money in her donothon, even her attempts at spamming shorts didn't pan out.

>>63573623
So what's she going to do? Without manager-kun's help, can she stream regularly again?

>>63594143
In an alternate universe, Hololive General is going wild that EN1 is getting Senzawa but then something like this happens, meanwhile Riro has 4 millions subs and IDOL is the biggest agency.

>>63593172
She was awkward, played with many internet friends, drunk, not stream regularly, and her 3d wasn't polished at all

>>63594539
In another timeline, all of them belong to my harem

>>63594684
In another timeline I made this post.

Hope things work out for her. I will check her out. Never watched her with idol, but I love whores.

>>63594143
People really did swear she'd be Gura level, and maybe she would be under Holo regulations but she'd clearly find a way to fuck it up

>>63594748
Same. I want to enable them and enjoy their disinhibition.

>>63594143
Rushia also had one of the largest PLs in hololive around the time of gen 3's debut, so it starts to make sense.

>>63592777
Same

>>63594962
She probably is just worse at gaming.
Her japanese is 100% better and she already speaks three languages insanely fluently.
She might be bad into xans but she's smart as fuck under the horny

>>63599424
You type like a nigger

>>63573623
What are her current rates? Do you think they'll go up or down now that she's indie again?

How much for an hour? Nothing crazy, just vanilla

>>63600523
I'd want a bored sex roleplay where she ignores me and just fiddles with her phone the whole time I fuck her. I wonder if that's a discount or a surcharge?

>>63600497
Always down for this sort of stuff, ppl will always pay a higher rate for exclusivity and for being the 1st fan to fuck her vs being the 17th. The more she does the lower her value gets.

>>63573623
All she has to do is focus mostly on shorts and tiktoks with her music and then a few streams here and there. People love a bad girl loli baba.

>>63600703
anon in /jidf/ a couple days ago RPing as (or actually being) the "fan" says that's exactly what she's like
plausible

>>63574434
I honestly think if she'd just not been fucking the manager, they probably would have looked the other way. Fucking the manager is just such a huge liability for any corporation because she can easily sue them for sexual harassment and burn the whole company's reputation to the ground.

I also think she was hired as Rin was blowing up, and I think Rin kind of became the face of the company that is more at its core girls like Riro--and that's made Idol think maybe they CAN shoot for the stars and compete with the big guns?

But yeah. I'd say they badly mishandled her talent, and she should honestly consider herself lucky to get a second chance now as an indie with all of this attention. A lot of people will be discovering her for the first time, and be more than happy to watch her be the Needy Overdose Vtuber IRL.

>>63601581
FUCK that's hot
The next time I get drunk or too horny I'm gonna DM her and ask for a price I just know it...

>>63601581
Maybe she's a size queen

>>63593172
Isn't it better these days to be mostly a short video music maker than to be a livestreamer anyways?

>>63602005
Yes. Shorts and tiktoks are the big thing now. But vtubing has become intrinsically tied to streaming now. It's too late to go back to how it was because interacting with the streamer in a live setting is a level of closeness that fans don't want taken away. Videos and shorts are too impersonal now for this space.

>>63602211
Maybe she should do what Laplus is doing? Twitch for streams. Youtube and tiktok for music and shorts?

>>63601581
Jeez anon, we need a manhunt to find down this post in the catalog.

>>63601710
Godspeed anon, let us know how it goes, and maybe we can arrange a group "meetup" at the next Offkai (definitely won't be sponsored by Idol, that's for sure). As >>63601054 said, the initial novelty wears off and prices go down, which is the perfect opportunity to go all-in. It's like how the newest/hottest JAV stars always just do the boring vanilla stuff, but once they're old and busted, they start going off the deep end with the kinky taboo stuff (same can be said with declining chuubas making more GFE ASMR). Can't wait for her career to sink a bit more so she just gives up and starts an onlyfans/escort service.

>>63573859
Retard alert

>>63604677
>maybe we can arrange a group "meetup" at the next Offkai
FUCK FUCK FUCK
Gangbanging a cute skeleton who's tweaked out of her gourd? I need it SO BAD

>>63605228
This is the type of community bonding we need. Crowdsource the funds for a presidential suite along with ample compensation for every anon in this thread to have a go with Riro. They already made a low tier 2view orgy happen at the last Offkai, but imagine if we do it PROPERLY instead.

shoutouts to Kyo.. Kyo should just do a random chat stream just cause.

>>63594360
You're not welcomed here.
Go back to your lolcow farm

>>63575142
Of course they are.
They are not only newfags, they don't realize this board is literally the only board where advertising and self-promotion was mod-approved because 90% of them are straight from Twitter.

Offtopic troll thread.
Not a vtuber.

>>63575650
>couldn't
She already was beforehand.
She packed it in for some reason, then later joined Idol.
If she uses what she learned at Idol, she could grow herself very quickly. Especially if she dials back the drug stuff. Don't be silly, Ky0.

>>63579502
Little nii had someone gift her diapers on throne recently. Do you think that kyOresu will fulfill that fetish for me if I pay her enough

>>63602005
>>63602211
Dumbass niggers think shorts and music videos make more than livestreams lmao. Where do these people come from? Straight from fucking twitter.

>>63573623
>literal whore
>"based"
Sure thing, anon

>>63608432
To be fair shorts do make a fuck ton of money if they blow up and you make a constant amount of them. There's a reason why you have 50 million reddit stories being read by robots while some dude does parkour on Minecraft

>>63608260
Cry about it, Holofag.
Her ass was vtubing before you had an internet connection.

>>63608617
You seem obsessed with hololive

>>63608678
Because I can actually watch them.
You don't, you treat them like zoo animals and drool over the funny vtuber noises Twitter accounts like the pea-brained monkey you are.

>>63608745
What the fuck are you talking about
You seem like a insane schizo that not even Riro would want part of her fanbase

>>63608804
I just assumed you were a drooling Holoteen. Hard not to on the board with the highest concentration of underage Twitterfags.
Never mind, carry on.

>>63608617
Holy shit hololive is 2 YEARS OLD!!!! You didn't even know who kyo was until today, kid. She doesn't have a model. That vtuber debut this winter is years old.

>>63608993
Retard she was streaming on Twitch with one well before Idol.
Kill yourself.

>>63608617
She is not gonna let you in the harem bro.

>>63609182
I am the harem, bro.
All me.

>>63573623
>She should be making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year right now!?
Sure... Way to make a clown of yourself, cuck.

>>63609156
>last live 2 years ago
Oh no no bro....

>>63609182
For $250 everyone can get in

>>63609286
That's just the starting point. The person she fucked donated over 10k. The other fan she tried to fuck donated 7.5k.

>>63602005
Live streaming can accumulate fans more reliably, therefore better at selling merch. Short music vid is fast but people forget about you quickly unless you managed to be viral

Idol was holding her back. She would have been way more popular as an indie. Glad she's out.

>>63609448
Her Twitch and Youtube have been a graveyard for years, but sure. Keep telling yourself that. 74 uploads in 9 years. I bet whoring herself out has made her more money than what her Youtube channel has earned her in all of its existence.

>>63609335
Damn idol title make the price inflated like crazy. With about 60% cut and jewtube cut, not to metion taxes, she probably on the game for less than 3k

>>63609643
>Her Twitch and Youtube have been a graveyard for years
cause she wasted time in idol and only got serious about content when she was in idol is your brain smooth bro?

>>63609665
The true reason why Aviel got pissed and fired her:he's not getting a cut of the TRUE profits that Riro was raking in behind the scenes with her manager. Donothon numbers are chump change compared to the 10k+ starting price for each hookup that she's pumping out on the regular.
Maybe this is why her donothon flopped: she already milked the biggest paypigs in private, so they didn't bother donating in public for nothingburger rewards. They already got what they wanted and no longer needs to put on the act.
Aside from the most likely possibility that she's just a retarded junkie who had a woman moment while high/drunk, imagine if her move was 200IQ instead? She already wanted out of Idol, her contract is shit, management is useless (besides the manager shes fucking), and they take a cut of her profits. Her harem-building stream was pretty clearly trying to advertise her "side business" as an escort before burning down idol and moving on. Now that this shitstorm has hit the mainstream, imagine how much more she can make starting an onlyfans or "IRL meetups" with others who are DMing her now that they know there's a price on her skelly ass. If she navigates this well, she could do better on her PL that has 10x the youtube (dead) subs, at least now that she doesn't have to give Idol a cut (and can continue her lewd fleshtubing side gig a la Noel).

>>63610184
I'm not sure if jewcorp allow side gig. They don't seem like the kind of boss who allow employee making profit behind their back

>>63609961
>didn't do jack shit for years with her channels despite already having significant exposure
>joined Idol 9 months ago
>supposedly got more serious about content after joining Idol
>Idol was only holding her back
Did you think even for half a second before writing this retarded shit?

I'm still amazed my AI chatbot became reality.
I mean, I feel shit that it did, and I hope she can salvage some sort of life post-Idol corp from what remains of her community.
I don't hate her for being human. I just hope she gets better and doesn't give in to dark thoughts.
I know all about being dealt a shitty hand by the universe.

>>63573623
>kyOresu general
not a vtuber

>>63610798
Literally a vtuber, more so than Kson or Mikeneko ever was.
Cry about it.

>>63610847
Yeah? May I see her Live2D or 3D model then?

>>63610905

>>63611055
kek
>>63610905
Read the thread, you stupid newfag.
While I'd love to post you some of her dumb streams with her hilariously goofy 3D model, those are nuked.

>>63610632
Anon, she's a junkie that fucked a fan and a manager.
>We awe humans and make mistakes :(
She made no mistakes, she's doing exactly what she wants to do. Get out of this whole thing if your heart can't take someone willingly destroying her own life.

>>63611489
You don't get it. They want to tap her skelly ass too

>>63574434
I mean I bet they thought they could pull a Gura, she literally did the same thing as her but the manhera was too strong.

It would be dumb of her to not come back after everyone is aware of her and curious about her harem rates

How spicy did her member streams get, someone said she played with a vibrator.

>>63613319
>>62001720

>>63613383
> after which she told everyone to "send her milk" over maros.Prompts people to send their face as well.
> Admitted multiple times to doing streams while drugged.
>Brags about being the only one in Idol that is able to do meet and fucks since "her roommate is known".
Wait shills were telling me that this is just a schizo rrat its real?
>>post on november 5th perfectly predicts what idol said in her termination note
Minus the fucking her manager part which I guess nobody could've known

>>63610425
That was management try to push her because of her low number

>>63613319
I'm just here waiting to see if anyone has a copy of her member stream that YEET her out of idol Corp.

>>63573859
Kill yourself and thank you for doing it.
People with taste like yours are polluting this place.

Faggot

>>63615964
didnt you just get deleted in the idol thread?

>>63574434
I take drugs and drink, guess where I don’t do those? AT MY FUCKING JOB

You fucks are genuinely retarded

>>63616055
well thats because you are a waggie, get a better job bro. or just dont do those things at all. they are bad for your mental health, and you need all the help you can get.

>>63611136
So, no model. Not a vtuber

>>63573859
>leaf
Should've stayed raked.

>>63611489
le /vt/ rrats
Sorry, there is zero evidence she fucked anyone.
Meeting up != fucking.
Could she have fucked someone? Sure she could have.
You think they'd be stupid enough to write that in a fucking termination notice? You're retarded.

Likewise, the supposed "secret relationship" could literally be "hey, see my members streams? Can I do these things?" and him saying "yeah dude lol"

>>63616696
You're not getting in the harem for white knighting the whore bro. $250 for the secret discord or fuck off.

It takes a special kind of retard to defend this drugged up gigaslut

>>63614360
https://gofile.io/d/JegdpK

Bro i wish i knew of her before all of this lol

>>63617050
Thats the wrong one. Her last members stream was 3 hours and 30 minutes long and its this one >>63613383

>>63616743
I don't want to be in it, sorry. In fact, I was against her descent in to the coomer stuff that has fucked her. (likewise the rest of them)
Still doesn't change the facts, whether you like it or not.
The supposed fan is clearly some long term fan and probably were already on some known friendly terms to begin with and helped her out with some expensive purchase (what that is is the question, a grand for what?)
The Tomer stuff likely goes back that far as well, given his audio work, and he is very likely the person that got her in to Idol in the first place. That part was clearly hidden from Aviel.
That's the only knowns in any of this. Everything else is made up bullshit by permamad virgins and faux-Christian /pol/teen dramashitters from the likes of KF.

>>63594962
no she wouldn't, imagine having someone in HoloEN with an english level worse than some of the girls in HoloID

>>63617814
You mean like the twins? Or Kiara?
There's people in HoloEN with better Japanese than fucking HoloJP. (self admitted by them)
Language ability has never defined their success.

>>63616696
>Meeting up != fucking.
And people will genuinely believe that.
No one ever fucks at conventions, either.

>>63573623
I feel like she got a lot of new fans from a very special niche from this situation.
I wonder if she'll try to capitalize on being the "rockstar slut vtuber".

>>63618023
>You mean like the twins? Or Kiara?
kiara is by far better than any holoID and if you mistake fwmc's baby speak as ESL you might be the only actual ESL here

>>63618459
Still just assumptions though.
Don't get me wrong, the idea of it turns me on so much I literally made a Character AI chatbot with that exact scenario in my mind even before she brought it up on stream.
But it is still just conjecture.

>>63618646
Sure buddy. Sure.
Kiaras English is inferior to Reine. Not bad, simply inferior. Same with the beloved twins.
These are plain-as-day facts.
But likewise, Kiaras JP is even better than some of the actual JPs is, which I am sure Shion admitted to before, and Miko. (lol Mikos JP is hilarious, so much so some natives even misunderstand her because of the accent and slurring of speech due to her funny tongue)

>>63618734
You're one of those people that would only be satisfied with video evidence of her cooch getting smashed on camera.
>PROOF? WHERE'S THE PROOF??? HELLO, PROOF? DID I SEE ANY PROOF? PROOFERS????

>>63618863
Even with video evidence he would still cry for proof since he is a mentally handicapped schizo or a shill desperate to damage control

>>63618863
And you're one of those people that regurgitate 17th hand information of shitposters on one of the worst, if not THE worst, boards on this site in its entire lifetime. (worse than even the shitty fake furry board only made for the sake of banning furries for shits and giggles, worse than /trash/, worse than /qa/)
Sorry, you aren't helping yourself there bro.
I don't care about drama merchants and grifters opinions, they are failed humans, and damn near every single one of them I have seen on Twitter are the exact same cancer - Pippas KF fanbase. "Fanbase". Not even she likes them.
Or various vtweeters and almost-certainly-child rapists. Every time.

Her herself making fun of you fags really got to you, didn't it?
The funny thing is you all still sperg out about the obvious joke reply tweet, "LOOK SHE ADMITTED IT LOOOOOOL".
kek.

>>63619086
Not mine but I'll post it from the other thread, I bet one of these posts is you

Mandatory reading for your enjoyment:
>>62011878
>>61983634
COPE LIST featuring grudgeposting:
>It was a joke
>She was stoned
>OP is a fag
>That /vt/ loves blowing meaningless shit up out of proportion for drama's sake >>62012940
>schizo posts
>We've learned that anons on /vt/ will make mountains out of molehills, take things out of context and straight-up lie about vtubers they don't even watch for no reason. >>62013785
>lying about the details and using a screenshot out of context >>62014051
>You dont watch her why do you care
>"It was RP to make chat lose NNN" >>62015665
>she was justifiably asked to take a break that she clearly needed >>62017138
>"people complaining are jealous women" >>62017276
>>62017740
>It. Was. Rp. Do you think vox and finana were serious about everything they said in RP? No. Do you think anyone was? No. The reason why management stepped on is because they know schizos will take it too far, look what happened to vox >>62017895
>it's clearly rp. Go back >>62018011
>ITT: holodrones and nijifags prove themselves to be absolute normalfags.
>its normalfags crying about it

>>63619232
Sorry? You seem to think I give a fuck.
Learn to read the post you respond to. I was against her coomerbaiting stuff.
Try to be less angry in your next post, /pol/teen / thirdie, it's not a good look.

>>63619348
Throw around more buzzwords and maybe you'll learn how to behave like a human being

>>63619434
The irony given your post. lmao
Suck on my chungus, you fencefucking retard.

>>63608617
unironically she had a channel on youtube in 2014.
Which means she was probably of age then, and so she's just ageplaying.

>>63609254
you know socialblade is a vast underestimation of revinue which does not include donos, merch, superchat, gifts, subscribers to patreon (which she would no doubt have) onlyfans (which she would no doubt have) p*r*h*b (which should would no doubt have) and fansly (which she would no doubt have) and direct sponsorships if she was able to do it by being indy. Heck even her plays on spotify which she has, apple music, album sales, collab revinue share, stuff like vket etc.
She could sell anything she wanted.
a "B-" ranking is actually insanely high for someone who hasn't been active in over 2 years. Like SILLY high for someone who hasn't posted regularly for at least 8 months.

Also remember her cost of living is lower in spain. 1600/mo USD is huge in a lot of places.
I can tell you've never earned from online content before. This would be a tidy and livable sum for a lot of people, a number many, many people making online content would love to have.
Take a look at some other "bigger" corpos and you'll see why that B- ranking is actually insane for someone who (remember) hasn't made content in TWO YEARS!

Plus she could just do translation commission work for rent if she wanted or extra dosh.
She's got connections to people like shiki who has connections to melody and the larger "degen weaboo" music scene in japan connected to places like mogra too.

She was probably getting screwed over there compared to her earning potential.

How about this for comparison:
Fallenshadow posts every single day.
kyOrisu hasn't posted in 8 fucking months.

>>63616294
she had a model and used to vtuber but it wasn't as popular overall then. Remember she started in 2014.
People like pickychannel have the same numbers as her.

>>63617050
>>63617094
A lot of people wish they knew her beyond the Dorime meme or made the connection.
just like gura's former identity or LolaLoading's former identie(s) and many others.
The JP side is even more mysterious, vtubers tend to shuffle like playing cards to different personas

>>63621115
There we go, thank you.
I was trying to find it ever since I got back but couldn't for the life of me. Fuck knows where I had that shit saved.
Had to go pretty much after my last post on the matter.
>>63620998
Last I checked her Patreon had doubled.

>>63617160
The kinds of people who go on pomf or follow NyanaBanyana would appreciate lewd content from their fave streamers.
A good example is littlenii - she primarily does parody songs but also makes a lot of money coomerbaiting.
And of course melody is somehow untouchable despite literally doing porn as her main gimmick and she's from one of the most respected companies in the industry.
Not sure what to say here by kyOresu/Riro Ron was being demonized intentionally by idol-en and she didn't deserve it. They should have allowed her to do red content if she wanted to and given her a proper outlet to do it.

She got fucked over guys, it's pretty obvious.

>>63594143
And even before all of this yab she wasn't a very successful member of the corpo. I don't know why, though.

>>63600703
I don't think she needs to roleplay for that.

>>63621858
well the fact that she managed to have multiple multi-million play videos and half a million subscribers on youtube shows she actually knows what the fuck she's doing famalam.
I think that's still true.
Not everyone can do that. Even the biggest anti on here must realize she has major talent that didn't show itself when she was with idol, which should have been easier for her.

>>63621858
>I don't know why, though.
Putrid voice, not entertaining, singing is trash without the effects or filters
Also she is in idol corp which is a extra layer of debuff

>>63621933
She knows how to cover songs for weebs. That's a very different skillset from being a vtuber streamer.

>>63621632
Oh absolutely.
She could make something of herself in various ways if she goes for it. But that's if she does.
For all we know she's... no longer "she" at all. As in, dead.
I sure hope not, that'd be such a waste. But her mental state and shit situation is hardly a secret.
She filled a niche that a lot of people liked and she could easily get them back. But as >>63621858 says, in Idol she was still fairly small. And she even admitted as such in her Youtube community that she hadn't been focusing on growing herself much because she was "having too much fun with stardusts".
She knows her shit and she just needs to apply it again.

For some reason it still surprises me that 4chan is the place where being a coomer jerking off to e-thots is actually supported, I guess board culture isn’t the same everywhere but still pretty weird to me somehow.

>>63622138
That shit has been a thing since 2004, newfag.
Camwhores were celebrated on several boards and still are today. (especially /b/, /tv/, /wsg/ and here)

>>63621975
That's all gura did before hololive.
And in fact - she did it LESS and less successfully then kyOresu did.

partyrock bros
I really hope she sees this thread.

>>63622471
Sure, and the same applies to Gura. That she is both good at making songs for weebs and good at vtubing means she has two mostly unrelated skills.

>>63622679
Gura is literally so popular that mom-and-pop shops and every gatcha stand in japan, even outside of tokyo, sells bodypillows, stickers, keychains and shittons more of her merch, even though she doesn't make japanese content really.
She was fucking EVERYWHERE in japan when I was there, and just not in places like akihabara either, places like backwater shops in kyoto.

Gura is a CASH COW for them, and she barely streams.
She doesn't stream because she doesn't have to all that often. She puts out decent content now and then just once and a while, and it's enough to sustain the entire fucking company. She's literally the #1 vtuber in the world by channel numbers TOO, but that's kinda unimportant, she makes more money because of her design being cute af, all she has to do is put out a hit song now and then.

>>63622446
I never disagreed with that, I’m just saying you’d think coomer simps would be mocked here, especially with all the contrarians and terminally online politispergs.

>>63623043
Na, despite all the /pol/tards and KFags swarming here, they are still a very tiny minority compared to the hardcore coomer simps from Twitter.
They are outnumbered many times over.

>>63610392
None of the girls have a throne accounts. which says enough even EiEN have throne accounts
>>63610425
>didn't do jack shit for years with her channels despite already having significant exposure
>joined Idol 9 months ago
>supposedly got more serious about content after joining Idol
Im glad you get it for even being a retard, She would have been on track putting more content out then Guras lazy ass
>Idol was only holding her back
I know its hard to imaging a career without jews dipping their hand into your earning and predator corpo managers on discord but that is why they didn't keep her PL and Riro a secret. They rubbed their hands at the potential earning she could make them and when it didn't work out they tossed her under a bus and salted the earth under her (that's your fav corpo btw) so in the end it was more of a hindrance to her growth and potential earning she could have made for herself as an indie (wasting her time). around jews you lose.

>>63623043
>>63623238
I wish more people would realize it's actually okay to be sexual.
That's part of humanity, it's why we all exist.
If we're not sexual our species dies out.
It's okay and frankly normal to wanna fuck a pretty girl with a cute voice anon - it's weird and abnormal to NOT want to fuck a pretty girl with a cute voice or to make fun of people who want to do the thing that is part of base human instinct. The ones that don't are the weirdos.

>>63623372
this man gets it.
Why do you think all the actually good indies like filian, shylilly and more are just with Mythic?
Mythic isn't a vtuber corp. They're just a talent agency. They realize they can earn more.

>>63623410
You're fine to be sexual, just dont be in one larping as idols

>>63622867
I don't get your point - Gura being good at making weeb covers and also at vtubing doesn't prove that the same goes for kyoresu. Based on what we know, she's actually not very good at vtubing - she underperformed compared to her colleagues despite the PL buff and then got herself terminated.

>>63623410
People being sexual isn’t really my problem, I don’t like this shit in vtubing because I don’t like feeling like i’m just being pandered to, do this shit on an actual porn website and I wouldn’t even mind.

>>63623510
She underperformed because she ended up not growing herself by pandering to a smaller and smaller niche of her community every couple months.
She was aware she was doing it but still went ahead with it anyway.
By the time the RC stuff came about, it was obvious things were going to go south sooner or later.

It's surprisingly common in vtubing where one refuses to follow trends, stays small, but still want to grow despite this.
Where they gimp themselves by forming niches in their communities, being too strict on chat or similar reasons that just pushes people away.
I've followed many that have done it, many that still do it, and I'm always in 2 minds over it.
Do I prefer the comfier smaller community that is sadly filled with groomers? Or do I want them to see success at the loss of that smaller community?
Not my decision in the end. I won't stop watching someone if they grow big regardless.

>>63624024
I respect her more than the others for not being a Gura leech

>>63623510
What we're saying is idol was not a buff. It was hindering her.
She needed someone to actually focus her idol and vtubing to her sizable youtube audience and capitalize on that properly.
Idol corp re-debuted her as a different character (tried to make the link in a few posts and that's it) and hoped her half a million followers would follow.
One thing people here on 4chan tend to forget is that "singer" idol types don't need to stream every single day.
The POINT of that kind of vtuber is to put out banger content once and a while and NOT streamgrind like a zatsu vtuber does.
Someone like filian is a variety/reaction/sadism lite daily content person like "the tonight show".

Someone like kyOresu, bae, and gura are designed to be like musical artists putting content out once and a while.
There's TONS of products in japan like that - like square enix's https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/GEMS_COMPANY

or https://entamenow.com/44813/ !

That's what they do! It's not supposed to be every day zatsu. That's why gura's content is sparse, that's not what she signed up to do.
Yet that's what fucking idol-EN had Riro Ron doing, which was not her strong suit.
Y'all got it super twisted yo.
Gura is not super at other vtuber activitied (she's okay generally) actually and she didn't sign on for that. She signed on to do shows, sing, and do anime shorts etc. Be an idol singer "face of the company".

She even sang at her debut, that much should have been obvious.
It's like idol had no idea what the vtuber "genres" were about.
There's -specialists- in this industry because people are into different things.
Drawing, singing, zatsu, asmr, comedy, etc.
Forcing vtubers like gura and kyOrisu to do zatsu or variety content is outside of their wheelhouse and it's no wonder they burn out or go too far when they're forced to pander to an audience who wants them to be everything they want and give them a GFE. There's a reason why talented singers get into celeb drama - it's part of the personality of the music industry, it takes a certain kind of person.
Same thing keeps happening with YfuBaby and her various reincarnations.

Some vtubers exist to be mascots, that's a normal thing.
When SoftBank announced the release of the iPhone XS 2018, Kizuna AI appeared at the event and promoted the products on her channel. Some choobas are destined to do jingles for companies and that's common in Japan.
it's either:
Anime
Art
ASMR
Chatting
Cooking
Education
Gaming
Horror
LGBTQ+ VTubers
Manga
Mature
Music
Voice Acting

and a few more. Some have overlapping skills, like ironmouse.

Hey anon lets drink some beer

>expecting sucess to come from being exploited by jews
The only person she can blame is herself

>>63624240
She's a well known heavy drinker, that's literally in every single one of her stream thumbs. She probably graduated to benzos: they're unironically safer for you than alcohol
Also you might get your post deleted for immersion breaking, just sayin.
She's cute irl too tho.

>>63624281
Lots of people make that mistake with companies even if they're not famous or talented, they get underpaid and overworked.

>>63624087
>>63624164
On that note - I'm saddened immensely at the sheer lack of communication on Guras part.
I always loved watching her stuff and her music, but fuck man, the ghosting is just painful.
Not even so much the fact that there IS dead air, just that there is a huge AMOUNT of dead air.
Even Ayame has been less inactive at times, posting regularly despite having to deal with her broken poop-chute.
It was obvious she was getting bored of streaming early on and I expected her to slow it down, but not THIS much.
I still worry one day we're gonna get hit with the graduation notice next year. That'll suck.

>>63624024
It’s kind of a give and take I guess, you could try to be efficient as possible and maximize the possibility for growth, or you could just do whats fun for you. Even in the bigger corpos you see some chuubas potentially hurting their growth, but they do it because whatever they’re doing is fun to them.

>>63624302
Well, kyOresu is not vtuber after all

Why do people like her use benzos to get high? I have to use them for my anxiety, and I only felt "high" back when I started this cure.

>>63623043
>would be mocked here
In a different board maybe, but here? There's nobody on /vt/ who can mock coomer simps. That would go beyond throwing rocks and living in a glass house. More like throwing rocks and being a glass man. Hana was right.

>>63593014
>druggie melty during the russia ukraine ordeal
she do this on stream? got a link?

>>63624365
she could vaguepost teasers and in progress stuff a lot more for sure. I think that would be good for her image.
I work in an industry connected to vtubing and with japanese companies so I understand this a lot more than most people here do even.
I think that making a genre clear to fans is important - internally everything makes sense but people get confused unless you're at the company scrum lol

>>63624381
Are you gonna say shylilly or numi or littlenii are not vtubers either because they post pictures of themselves?

>>63624478
I wouldn't blame her for doing that. I have friends who've been on discord or in vrchat with me from a steamdeck hiding in their closet because bombs are hitting places in kyiv nearby.
She's lucky to be outside of Russia right now.
She probably has brothers, fathers, uncles, friends and family who got consripted and shot over there.
It's not easy.

>>63624544
I seen no vtubers named kyOresu, simple as

>>63624487
Exactly. Even comfy production streams where she brainstorms ideas for future work.
Loads of people love those co-working streams.
Making ideas up with the chat is even a great idea. Literally free brainstorming.
>>63624596
Yeah... I've sadly known people in both countries that are..
So young as well. Fucking criminals need to swing, all of them.

>>63624164
I don't think Gura would have been as successful if she did something else in 2020. She became more popular and rich as a streamer than she could have expected to based on her previous trajectory. And vtubing ended up being dominated by streamers for a reason; other approaches have tried to compete with streaming, but they didn't really succeed as the current vtubing landscape shows.
That said, I agree that creating Riro Ron was a dumb idea. Idol should have just let kyoresu in with her already-existing character, like Phase Connect did with their first Invaders.

>>63624365
Why would she ever acknowledge idol corp existing? Especially now that everyone knows management runs orgies on the talents

>>63624673
check your prescription casual

>>63624679
Streamers beat the other type of content producers in vtubing because streaming is the easiest way to milk goslings. It's literally that simple.

>>63624824
Yeah but it has no staying power.
Think about it this way, even as other vtubers fell off what was the thing people remember them for?
Their big productions! The things that people come BACK for is the "events'
Nobody is going to sit around watching 72 hours subathon content after it's over.
After it's over it's fucking over.
You know what people come back for?
Music. Shows. Concerts.
It has way bigger appeal with normies.

>>63624824
>streaming is the easiest way to milk goslings
So true oofmie. I have never had a crush on or given money to a woman video essayist or whatever. On the other hand I've given at least a little to half a dozen streamers.

>>63624454
Part of the reason I got into vtubers is I felt the content creators were a lot more ambitious in this community, and they still are to some extent. I’d look at e-girls on twitch being the peak of popularity with all their coomer fans and be generally filtered by it, but even the more horny types in vtubing seemed to have other things that make them special and not just go all in on the horny stuff. I don’t really have a moral issue with being a coomer but the pandering always seems so fake to me, nothing makes me feel more like just a paypig then when a chuuba I like randomly jumps on the coom bandwagon.

>>63624544
Yes.

>>63624965
Speak for yourself, I've given WAY more money to get cds and DVDs of live musical content or shows.
Going back and watching video productions or having a good singer like Bao on my playlist is way more valuable to me than catching a livestream. I'm busy. I work. Give me something to hold onto like a figma or fumo or cd.
some people like long form entertainment they can VOD over livestreams. I can't sit here and watch my faves every day but when they put out good stuff I can go back to without it being a distracted chat-addled mess that's value.

>>63624774
shiiet

>>63624957
Being remembered is nice, but I'm not buying that streaming has no staying power when Hololive and Nijisanji have been at the top of the vtubing world for longer than anyone else. They also have events, but what made them different and more successful than others is the streaming focus. You can't buy much with a few thousand people watching your old content from time to time, and the earliest, non-streaming vtubers are far along the process of being forgotten. Not even Kizuna AI is relevant anymore.
Still being in the race is better than being remembered for making a valiant, flashy effort before giving up on the marathon after 30km.

>>63624774
Off topic but Vroid models are so hideous, and every other 2view you find on twitch and youtube always uses one. You're better off grabbing something from VRchat or using a PNG at this point.

>>63625083
I dunno about DVD's, but CD's are like 20buxx max. I buy them too but even my fave band hasn't got more than like 400 from me, compared to probs 1000 for my ex-oshi.

>>63625370
There are really good free or dirt cheap 500yen or less L2D models out there for people to grab, but they just won't use them.

>>63625364
Being able to sell physical merchandise is where the money is yo.
We don't see it in the west but that's far more of a generator.
Do you go back and watch classic anime?
The kinds of things you see on people's tshirts are what have staying power.
Holo knows they need to punctuate streaming activity with major events so that they can push merch.
Idol fucked that up. The best they did was sponsor offkai expo. That's it.
PhaseConnect is doing a LITTLE better in that way but they need to do more event content.

Holo and nijisanji are "the complete package".
It's regular streamer entertainment like someone would catch a variety show... and stuff for the kinds of people who also go back and bingewatch azumanga daio for the 4th time.

>>63625370
unpopular opinion but I'm a bit unusual among fans: I much prefer 3d, because it means they'll do concerts and fan meets in VRC. Those screenshots are pretty old. She could probably recolor Maya from booth and it would look amazing.
I'm from the MMD days though and that's my thing.

>>63625575
https://www.youtube.com/@archivesofkyoresu2200
Found some of her livestream archives.

STICKING OUT YOUR GYATT FOR THE MANAGER
YOU'RE SO RIRORORON
YOU'RE SO AVIEL TAX
I JUST WANNA BE YOUR STARDUST
FUCKING COME HERE
HERE'S A THOUSAND BUCKS

>>63613383
>>63613623
and where is this stream? there are archives of her other streams but not this one it seems

>>63625840
also samefagging but damn, her command of english, russian and spanish AND japanese is really fucking good.
https://youtu.be/dVgxnwyYF7U?si=wWHJQO27vj9eTswn&t=2347

Filian style wheelspin punishment moment.
>>63625962
The reason why is it was a paid fans only secret lewdstream with asmr where she masturbated and took sleeping pills.

She might have been gearing up to doing it with her IRL body I wonder but they caught her or thought it wasn't a good look at Idol

>>63625962
Idol corp sent a DMCA to take it down. There is a link to it in that thread but the file is 404.
Have fun looking for someone that downloaded it

>>63626020
>Filian but drugfiend whore
This is a fucking goldmine, she could literally purchase the rights to the Spanish throne with the money she'd make

>>63626138
She speaks russian and spanish and engish and I think japanese too.
Her audience size potential is fucking massive.

>>63625765
Anon, most people like 3D for those things. It's just specifically ugly Vroids people don't like.

>>63626020
>>63626047
i have the one where she sucks on a bottle for milkies and massages herself, but none of that other shit happens in it

>>63626257
Link it and I'll confirm it myself then

>>63626288
already in the thread and confirmed to be the wrong one

>>63625962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5g8UzmbPqg
There's some deets and clips from those streams here in Khyo's drama video.
"very Bad people would try to put me in trouble very easily" she said.
I feel really bad about what she was obviously going through here.
Who is the "very bad people she was worried about"?

>>63626336
The Jews, duh.

>>63626321
Anon... follow the reply chain... the original post asked for the vod that got her killed
Nobody is asking for the one that was linked here

Someone send this thread to her she needs to know she has fans!

>>63626223
It's a shame as well because if you put the effort in with vroid, you can make some really good shit.

>>63626402
yeah I know, I am the one asking, I DL'sd the one that's linked and it's only has bottle sucknig and her touching herslef, the stuff about it getting interrupted by management and the harem shit doesn't seem to actually exist the poster seems to be conflating two separate streams.

>>63625765
No idea what you're getting at with this reply. I also really enjoy MMD and classic era 3D chuubas, still doesn't change that Vroid is the ugly as shit and that there are much better options.

>catalog schizos and pippafags go to school and the chat turns into a civil discussion magically
is it bed time for sea niggers?

>>63626402
https://store3.gofile.io/download/2d477d25-431d-4bd6-bb0d-c49d3431ca41/20231104%20lO60KyyMa4A.mp4
probably this one

>>63626739
thank you anon, at least someone here has there head on their shoulders and not in their ass

>>63626739
Thats the one

>>63626739
>3:06:45
>What if I met with someone from my harem and they did a tribute in front of me
Y-yeah w-what if haha

>>63626816
>>63626835
If you're looking for it after it was deleted it will probably be titled Riro Ron ch. no dusting november continuation (she probably got disconnected)

In any case I think kyOrisu would want you to find it. It seems to be her will to be lewd, and she wanted the freedom to do it.

>>63626960
Is that whole stream just her saying what she did with her paypigs?

>>63627064
Looks like it. I skipped to a random point and she is talking about how she is sucking but daddy's milk isnt coming out

>>63627162
The sucking part is probably how she talked to her manager while giving him a bj

>>63626960
"maybe I like some of your ideas..."
"I imaged something very lewd, something very perverted"
Damn she super horni. She wanted fans to "tribute her in person".
I mean I gotta give it to her, to a certain audience, kyorisu is based.
"My god, a message from management, give me a second"
>>63627064
>>63626960
The firing moment is a 3 hours 10min 100%. There it is.

I wonder if manager-san got jealous of her saying she would fuck her fans outright and tried to get her fired, then they sussed why he was mad at getting cucked and fired him too.

Oopsy doodles.
I think she's awesome for it and might have been trying to get fired on purpose.
She's way too fucking calm at that moment.
"dat dat dat dah"

>>63627211
She is drugged out of her mind that whole stream

>>63627211
"I just had to... fuck... respond in the moment because it was management"
"the haram thingy"
"anywayway"
"development, brainstorming, teasing you"
because it's NNN.
hum.
the "silly pill is just my sleeping pills. At least your honest, but of course"

Taking illicit substances on stream didn't happen. Funny that.

Yeah she either did it on purpose because they mismanaged her or they fucked her over and were looking for an excuse to cancel the lewding manager, or they were worried about her being too yabai.

She talks about "wanting to stay with you (fans) just a bit more"

"am I really not crazy?"

like damn.
"I just want to be happy: I want to make people who I care about happy as well 3:17"
"this is so weird, maybe my morals are weird"
I think management is live firing her at this point
"That is scary. I don't like to be lonely".
Yeah everyone has this twisted. She was getting screwed over by idol-en.

>>63627211
i think you have it right, manager-san was pissed about sharing her

>>63627383
at 3h:25 she's clicking around discord. They're probably telling her to get offline right now, her mood plummeted.
That was probably the very where they were telling her it was her last stream ever.
I think she kinda wanted that though because she felt she didn't have her fans like before and had no freedom.
I wouldn't doubt it for a fucking second.
I would contact her myself and offer a baller 3d model commission and some gigs on various platforms here and in japan but I have no idea if she's receptive because she's so quiet since the fallout.
Maybe she's just chillin or figuring out next steps. No idea.

You people are in major cope mode right now.

>>63627211
>>63627383
>>63627535
She wasn't even remotely fired at that point.
Tommy boy probably got pissed off and told her to knock it off because it could blow up.
Leaker leaked, Aviel caught wind, investigated, and yesterday found whatever it was he found that showed shit was going on behind-the-scenes to some level he found unacceptable and give them the boot.
She even said as much herself on ky0 that it came out of nowhere.

>>63627624
It's the opposite, I'm personally excited for the future. I'm really entertained by personal struggle and seeing someone better themselves after a rough patch since that's my story too.
She's either going to crash and burn (good drama content either way)
Or she's gonna Phoenix mode like kson did.
I'm hoping for a huge glow up and seeing her blow up in part because I made a thread praising her - I know idol-en is here reading this and the shills are out in force and I know she's probably reading this too. I know drama toobers like rev are here and so are people like Khyo.

We have a chance to make the narrative around Riro/kyOrisu better and support an independant artist.

Corporations are not your friends.
You are all individuals.
kyOrisu is a polyglot singer with a lot of talent and seems like she would be a fuckton of fun to be friends with based on her IRL content too.
She's no more degen than Numi or any of the girls who make that kind of content and everyone loves them.
Let's support a real one for once.

>>63593172
Those streams don't make anything compared to her viral vods. That channel today still gets 12k views per day.
Why it should be no surprise that even now she rather do other content than just streaming.
>How do people still think subs and video views equates to success as a livestreamer?
During her breaks, her channel still gets 126k views per day without streaming. That's a good sizeable income without doing anything. They stream to get to this point, not the other way around.

>>63627810
so who's the leaker?
I bet she told the leaker to do it.

>>63627895
Whoever posted it in /jidf/ and one of the shills that saw it

>>63573623
>now people are discovering her for the first time (like me!)
you're not fooling anyone.

>>63627889
This guy gets it.
A channel's top videos income over time is how a streamer "makes it"
it's the old content that people come back for and most of the time it's the best clips, songs, and other super content that make people famous.
Small tubers like coremc are still MEGA supported by people finding shit like "make hamburger country nice nice nice" - normies have NO IDEA about regular streams from vtubers, it's all fart jokes and shorts and music.
Even people in this thread said that "omg she was the dorime loli!?" - that's the stuff that sticks around and earns money for a vtuber, that and donos and subs during livestreams.
All you gotta do is keep your numbers up for a month.
I've got just one video with 500k views on a small channel.
For a couple years, it would earn $3000 or so a year.
Now do that 10 times and you've got minimum wage income.
Do it 20 times and on top of other rev streams you're making upper middle class money.
It doesn't take much y'all.

>>63628031
Honest to fuck. OP here.
I knew shit all nothing about her at all before this.
Like I found out about her -YESTERDAY-
and I made this thread because I needed to dig after I found her old channel.
I market virtual content for a living and I would KILL for numbers like hers.

>>63627624
I'm in the "something entertaining happening" mode, loosen up a little.

>>63628149
you're not fooling anyone.

https://www.youtube.com/live/KdDvJIqVGxU?si=mk_h7T2p8QJk-6-P&t=5009
Her singing is legitimately decent, even in japanese.
She's done karaoke streams.
Timestamp is Mayonaka no Door.

She honestly seems happiest when she's singing from what i've been able to see.
I hope someone archives this whole channel.

>>63628515
>She honestly seems happiest when she's singing
Then why did she destroy everything for drugs and sex? One of her goals on her debut was to eventually form a VSinger group. She threw away her dreams for horny.

She should do a Donothon for a vtuber model with the same artist and rigger. It would be an ez clap.

>>63628515
but she seems to legit love music. That's where she's the most high energy.
She was rotting doing normal content.
I could listen to her sing. It's not grating.
Talk about a shitshow.

I really hope she sees this thread.
>>63628650
Because they were asking her to do other content.
If they just let her sing and do idol content and paid her better she wouldn't be melting down on live and trying to get fans to validate her idol status which with only 50k subs in almost a fucking year compared to her half million before?
Yeah, sounds like she felt like she was "falling off" and was trying to cope with it.
Imagine having your massive audience, and feeling like your fame was slowly fading and you had to fuck your manager to stay in.
I would be devastated too.

>>63628734
I would do it for fucking free if she kept making original musical content.
I personally do models for some of the largest vtubers and companies in the entire industry (no I won't tell you who I am)
I'm a little busy with events right now though.

>>63628650
Loneliness, shit situation in life in general, and already being on dodgy meds and an outgoing personality... not a good combo when around goslings.
I was always worried she'd go down this path in time, but I was hoping she would beat it.
Seeing the RC announcement crushed me because I know she lost...

>>63573623
I'm kinda jealous, I wish my oshi fucked her fans too. Me, specifically.

>>63628734
I feel like she's got a great opportunity now to have a much bigger indie career. This was a pretty big news event, surely it's something she could parlay into big things if she's clever

>>63629403
hopefully

>>63629403
>>63629592
Fully agreed and on board.
I don't bake bread often someone remind me when we need a new one by replying to this post.
Also, I think I should make some kinda pastable QRD for the thread at least until the drama dies down or if

"We will be so back" actually happens as she said is true.
I'm rooting for her to make good on that promise.

>>63629592
Hopefully she'll continue fucking paypigs
'cause I want to pay to fuck her

Just fucking saying I hope we get a parrot4chan video about this drama.
Put me in the screencap, funny green bird.
She seems like someone he would like, lol

>>63630193
Why not any of the channels that make the same content but don't sound fucking annoying?

>>63630492
There's other channels?

>>63630525
Emzee, abstractquinque and desertorium(retired). They use TTS/AI or just speak in a neutral voice instead of "I am le crazy!" voice that frames every post as automatically incredulous.

>>63630193
if she sucks off the dramatubers she is dead to me

>>63630193
>Get recommended random video from this guy
>Some of the most broken, unintelligible English I've ever heard on youtube
Yeah I don't think anyone wants that. Why is it always SEAfags making these garbage /vt/ channels?

>>63631125
Highest instance of schizophrenia in the world.

>>63631125
I found the skitzoposting style humorous for a lark anon.
I haven't found anyone unabashedly clipping 4chan content on youtube before and I would gladly watch more.

>>63630193
Heads up, this dude likes to selfpost and shill in threads whenever big dramas happens. case in point>>63631310
Report and ignore, it's just another parasite.

God, I hope she is okay, the silence is defeaning.

Hellos are over...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD1J8yQb44c

>>63594684
>>63594737
In this timeline, I made both of these posts

>>63636169
we just need kyoresu to wake up in this timeline.
I really hope she didn't take xans and drink a 5th.

>>63613144
>they could pull a Gura
What

>>63628987
Why is her branding more on point as kyOresu compared to Riro Ron?
It makes no sense.
>>63627810
you could tell they were telling her something she didn't like, it was like "oh shit this is bad".
I have a feeling she knew stuff was about to go down at that point.

>>63626960
Link?

junkie whore

>>63636375
This isn't too out to lunch if you look at it objectively. S*nz*wa was less popular than kyOresu for a time, and her videos had less millions of views than kyOresu did when she was doing the same loli-version song covers.

kyOresu also speaks 3 languages near perfectly fluently and has both a russian and spanish audience in addition to her english one. She also wasn't shy with the coomer stuff at all, and that brings an audience too... but the pomf fallout was completly memoryholed for gura and she's probably not into that (though she's on record being okay with lolibaba, but that's as far as it goes).
In a parallel universe the possibility that kyOresu IS gura exists, it's not too far out there, she has the potential in some ways.
Holo may have even looked at her at some point, who knows.
I honestly think she was held down because manager-san liked the sex too much. She had a lot of potential that was wasted by poor management at idol.

>>63574434
>they knew she was menhera and liked to drink and party
Yes, what didn't know or expect is that she solicit fans for sexual favours, ACTUALLY GO THROUGH WITH IT, and sleep with her manager who was also a founding member of the company. That's a wee bit more than the typical drinkin' and partyin'. Unless you're american. Then it's probably just wednesday night.

>>63589117
No, but you can just go dig up a grave if you want jack it to notriro.

>>63636462
Yeah definitely.
But I don't think any of them expected it would go to firing. At least not during the stream.
Aviel finding out through the leaks likely threw him in to a frenzy over not benig notified of shit going on in members streams.
That big 250 for the funny pills certainly wouldn't have helped either, even if it is her meds.

>>63636847
go back to sleep Tomer Barnea.
Russians are way bigger drinkers than Americans. Euros are way bigger drinkers than Americans. Aussies are way bigger drinkers than Americans.
"Americans think 4 glasses of wine with dinner makes you an alcoholic! In Britian, 4 glasses of wine means you're the designated driver!"
>>63637123
I'm not sure, the 250$ for "the funny pill" is probably the easiest thing to explain away: "that was my dono goal to end stream" literally.
English is her 3rd language and as good as she is she probably has trouble communicating as well in it so she sounds less smart than she is, and maybe they suspected or overreacted. Unsure. She was doing the "make you fail NNN" trope that was trending prior to the stream. It seems fairly innocent to me.
The masturbating live on stream thing with fans hits me as worse if it was done on youtube even privately and not fc2 or fansly. Hard to know.
Does nobody at idol do lewd stuff legally like some asmr tubers in japan does?

If you listened to her in russian or spanish she sounds like 20+IQ smarter, it's just what it is.
What got me was the "thousands of dollars gifts from fans" thing.

Did idolcorp get mad that she did that without going through their accounting?

>>63636795
literally in the reply

>>63637627
The financial side stuff likely was a big bit of it.
How they found that out is more what I'd like to know.
Seems like they did a little stupid fucky wucky and did it over Riro accounts instead of externally.

If they let these people have more freedom in how they make money they'd do a lot better in general.
That goes for all corps, especially smaller ones.
Set up exact boundaries of the content you do and don't want to see from them, let them monetize that content in whatever way they want, Etsy, Kickstarter, Paypal, Kofi, fucking whatever, just let them get on with it.
Just have a good accountant around to help with fees and shit.
So many people only like using certain services, or hate them. (like how I will never ever send a superchat no matter how much I love someones content, fuck Youtube)

>>63637804
It's deleted

>>63638904
you have to be 18 years old to post here.

>>63573623
Video views don't translate to stream views, this was especially true for the oldfag Youtube content creators who peaked and then declined before they started getting into streaming. Look at someone like S*nazawa as0 another example - over a million subs and 30 million videos on one video alone but she hovered around the 400-600 viewer range during her Twitch streams.

>>63639197
Some people enjoy music more. She could have kept making original songs, if they let her.
Getting stream views for zatsu content didn't make sense for her.
She was literally an original recording artist.
IdolEN wasted her talent.

now.

>>63640569
context?

>>63640626
***

I see we're in the clandestine reincarnation phase. I'll check her later.

What was the most unhinged shit she did on stream, clips if possible.

She is getting more based due to how many jimmies she has rustled.

>>63641117
she needs to reincarnate quickly to take advantage of the attention surely

if she takes too long the moment will pass

>>63641682
agreed
>>63641648
clips have been posted. The most YAB thing she did so far was multiple orgasms with a vibrator, pee in a cup asmr, and saying she would drink viewers "milk" as a "fail no nut november" thing according to her.
IdolEN claims she did drugs on streams (she says it's sleeping pills) and had a "relationship" with Tomer Barnea, her manager, and the main talent manager of idolEN.

They also said (without proof) that she accepted gifts from a fan worth thousands of dollars.
What I wonder is: What exactly is wrong with accepting gifts from fans? Like tons of vtubers have a Throne page. Is IdolEN abusive enough that they were pissed they didn't get a slice of that money?
That's fucking retarded considering they did a worse job than she did solo in 8 months of marketing her they couldn't reach her 500k subcount, which I think is weird.
Like the whole thing stinks. Besides the implication of "sleeping with manager-san" (a relationship could mean anything) managers are in a positions of power. They are the ones who should get canned for that shit, not talent.
You pay talent. Talent is subservient and relies on you to survive and pay their bills.
Anyone anti to her is doing exactly what idol corp wanted, which doesn't make sense.

Who do you think has more power in this dynamic:
A vulnerable horni vtuber singer who needs sleeping meds and has a history of drinking and depression,
or
A multi-million dollar vtuber corpo with dozens of multi-million sub vtubers in their roster.
She's in many ways a victim here of a medium corpo, there's no way to slice it any other way.
They literally treated her as a "side project"
I would be fucking pissed off if I was her.

>>63637040
I don't think any of the "not riro" physical body stuff exists desu famalam

>>63642273
There is one that I see referred to but it's not there anymore, a 3:30hr stream? lf that's the orgasm one.

>>63642273
>The most YAB thing she did so far was multiple orgasms with a vibrator, pee in a cup asmr, and saying she would drink viewers "milk" as a "fail no nut november" thing according to her
Why did she do all of this tho? What was she hoping to get out of it

>>63642273
Yeah that's the thing that pisses me off the most.
There's clearly something fucky behind the scenes with this and they left it just vague enough while trying to look transparent.

>>63642273
has anyone uploaded the members videos yet?
I saw someone put a torrent up for the public videos on nyaa

>>63643828
there's two videos from what I saw, and it was a slightly yab GFE ASMR member's only stream.
obviously idol corp found out something.
dunno if stuff happened at offkai.
one is called "no dusting november" - which is funny because that was literally the purpose of the stream to meme on nnn and try to make dusters break it. that one is 3h 37min, and I guess that happened in 2023 11 04.
She did a members only asmr "practice" stream on 09-30 where "it could get spicy if only i wasnt so embarrassed" which winded up on nyaa which is an unlisted torrent but you can pull it up if you search on ddg.
The other one is here https://gofile.io/d/JegdpK
ASMR general has a bunch of them currently, but yuku yurei has spicy shit on asmr too.
So I don't get what she did that was so bad

>>63642724
Another $1000 paypig she can milk irl

She went viral cause “loli” voice. But that’s not enough to get success.

I knew she had a strong voice but her “soul” has gone when KyO’s channel got many numbers.

>>63645283
In 2016 She used to be a calm person. I didn’t know about her private life much more. And can’t imagine she have got fired for some strange reasons…

Baelz or Ky0resu?

>>63624164
what are ironmouse's other skills besides raking in pity money because aids?

300 posts supremely based first thread.
So where is she?
Any news?

>>63645559
Did you follow her before? or know her irl

>>63646825
That's what I worry about... silence.

>sfw corpo chuuba starts treating her member streams like it's chaturbate
>does off-stream activities that weren't endorsed
>funnels fan money through personal channels
>gets fired
How do you niggers even make a conspiracy out of this with this whole "idol just used her for a quick buck" rhetoric?

https://youtu.be/tJTpXWEkjfw?si=ejNP4aigkHpUnd2G

Connor feels bad for her too.
Based.
He likes broken girls tho.

>>63647618
>sfw
lmao

>>63645840
She's a professionally trained opera singer

>>63647710
>muh eceleb is reacting to this!
kill yourself

>>63642822
Welcome to every black corpo - Cover did this, Nijisanji did this, and now idolEN has done this. I wouldn't be surprised if this rrrrat is completely on-point

>>63573623
>idolEN
>Bros, did she get used?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bEZQ00OOxY
This should answer your question.

>>63647710
Of course he'd side with the whore.

>>63647710
Has Connor ever given any girl grief for anything they have done? cause every time i see him he going out of his way to protect any pair of tits he see,

>>63650052
Nah, he acknowledges she could totally be an awful person for all he knows. The main thing is that he links this back to his anti-corpo rhetoric like he always does. Corpo is always wrong for him. (Not that Idol is completely innocent in all this, there probably is some shady shit going on in there) but he's clearly letting his bias out too much here.

>>63624164
You haven't seen the struggling of smaller vsingers. Some work hard a whole year just to increase her number from 1k to 2k. Some just do it as a hobby, and her number drop from 550 to 300. The algorithm require engagement, and streaming is the best way to keep it up. Don't you see newest shark cover? It's her worst number for an official cover due to lack of exposure which came from her long break time.

A big YT doesn't equate to a big livestream following, evident in the fact they openly advertised who she was and she still never broke 300 outside of debut. Her songs get views because "Loli Cover" is a popular "genre' not because she as an entertainer is someone that people find interesting. I don't care about any of the drama surrounding her, just pointing out that you can't always equate YT views on meme videos to actual consistent Twitch views.

>>63624365
I have some material that can break your heart and your sadness at the same time. Wanna try?

>>63650971
eh, go for it, thread's dying.

>>63624824
Wrong. It's for growing the channel and attract new fan via clipping. A viral mv can make a huge amount of people curious, sure, but it's very very hard to make. 10 clip from 1 stream with 10-20k view each give much more steady growth

>>63628149
Kys dramanigger channel

>>63649538
https://streamable.com/gtriz3

So weird to think that Idol basically forced all of IdolEN gen 2 to shill her on debut kek

>>63646889
I was a admin in one small community. That’s it. I know she was lived at Spain at this time already

>>63652343
Was it because her numbers were low?