/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>63553855
>he trusted the merchants
roru and free palestine

>Phase does nothing
>wins

How the fuck did the LEAD talent manager date/fuck her without anyone else knowing? Wasn't he a co-founder too?

come back from what? taking a swift and decisive action against someone undermining the values you wanted for your streamers? this shit is basically free advertising bro

>>63553855
You do some cleaning of unwanted people. Then you free Palestine

>>63553996
>paypig has to pay thousands to fuck her
>manager does it for free
paypigs can't stop taking Ls

This is the best thing to happen to EIEN.

>>63554072
It's worse, that was his job, he was being paid to fuck her. Paypigs remain the lowest form of life.

>>63553855
unironically good time for a rebrand, Idol is a retarded name anyways. Just wait a month or two and do it.

>>63553855
>how much focus they put on ads and sponsorships
They are Israeli, they'll be fine.

>>63553996
>without anyone else knowing?
I guarantee you the kike king himself knew, there's no way your top recruiter just goes around fucking talent and no one knows, and I absolutely love this. aside from the faggot who runs this company taking money from the Israeli government and Jew entertainment fund from new York he also tried to strong arm all corpos with "PAY YOUR TALENT MORE" despite the fact it was all paid with government grants.

>>63553855
They'll be fine because Westerners care more about the corpo (brand) and not the talents. If this had happened to a JP corpo then they would be ruined.

>management so shit 3 out of 5 gen 1 girls quit
>one of the remaining ones has personal connections with CEO
>all gen 2 is known for is pee ghost and troon prince
>gen 3 is cyberlive scraps, another pee freak
>squander the hiring of fucking KYORESU

Jews, not even once

>>63553855
By just streaming. People get over drama quicker theb this place would have you believe. In a month it is a tragedy, in 6 months it is a memory, in 1 year it is a footnote.

>the word "idol" is now associated with whores that do drugs and bang their pay pigs
Oy Vey, mission accomplished.

But didnt they instantly fire the druggy whore and the manager? isnt that like good?

>>63554536
It is dramaniggers are trying to twist how things went.

>>63553855
>head talent manager plapping talent(s) and NOBODY else knew until some bad pr drew attention to it
Nah there is no coming back from this. Staff are enablers and the other girls covered for a whore fucking her manager.

LMAOOOOO
https://streamable.com/mqg04w

>>63553855
Its ok rin penrose has 600000 subs! Keep the sponsorships coming and we are squeaky clean dont look at anyone but rin penrose! 300 sound and video effects per ten seconds each short!

>>63553855
Regardless of how it turns out the company was fully in the right in this situation based solely on what the termination letter says. I'd be more cautious of the companies who'd rather take everyone to the grave with them than admit they fucked up.

>>63554671
go back to your monthly sponsored stream comment section cuckbud, your ilk have no right to laugh at anyone

y'all, if you think that this Jewish company that is built around promoting pedophilia and degenerate fetishes is in any way indicative of some larger pattern of behavior, you're a bigot. Check your privilege, goy.

>>63554751
>company is in the right based on what the company says
I mean, yea?

>>63554449
>Gen 2 Troon
???
Idol was wahmen only wasn't it?

>>63555023
Yes anon, because most companies can't even manage that. Just look at the Zaion Termination notice as an example

>>63553996
Anon, "Idol" is right in the name of the company. This is par for the course in the Idol industry.

>>63555079
Rin is asexual, im guessing it’s thats what he means, not an actual troon as far as I know.

>>63554449
>another pee freak
who

>>63555165
Look, if you're going to calibrate your expectations towards the literal bottom of the barrel in nijisanji then even the average level will seem impressive.

>>63553855
They didn't specify who the manager was in the termination notice but the co-founder and lead talent manager is no longer on idol discord server.
A fucking co-founder, railing chuuba working for them. Paints a pretty damn seedy picture of the company. I feel sorry for the girls who are still in Idol and have to deal aftermath of this scandal

>>63554383
Newfrag, they still the biggest idol agency in JP.
JP care more about corpo not the talents.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Society/J-pop-agency-Johnny-s-sex-abuse-scandal-5-things-to-know

>>63555268
>>63555079
yeah should clarify that, at least they don't have any actual dick choppers
>>63555299
the clown, bitch be crazy

>>63553855
Bro. Here is a protip (dont read if faint of hear):
Like 90% of vtubers had sex. Most of them currently have a bf.

Just watch them for the fun of it. Falling in love with virtual "characters" isnt healthy.

>>63555572
>the clown
i didn't know she was the slime, i loved that model. clown is good too but i don't like the rm, she seems too fickle.
>guys family hort will delete all asmr
fuck off

The only thing you can do as a company in this case is fire the employees in the wrong and push on, so long as Idol NEVER mentions this again this year then they’ll be safe. They may have brought it to light, but it’s better to get ahead of the story in this case then let a drugged out menhera and her ex-manager BF tell the story first.

>>63555617
This is why you only oshi someone that has several years of twitter history where she only talks about eating pussy and sitting on womens faces

>>63555617
Even the "asexual" Rin in Idol constantly talks about her male "best friend". Her fans can't seem to pick up on she's not actually asexual she just likes the clout that comes with the term.

>>63553996
But that happens all the time... Axel from Holostars...

>>63555822
It's really weird he retained gachis even after he hand-fed strawberry to his female manager during handcam stream. What the fuck

>>63555268
And the proof of that besides her saying that is? If I had a boyfriend id say im asexual and be disgusted by all things sexual to make it seem like id be single forever.

Manager grooming talent? No way. Who else in this company fuck their manager?

>>63555930
That stream got insta-nuked, but it's always the same - paypigs literally gaslight themselves into deluded scenarios. See Axel, Rushia, Riro, many others. They make up an imaginary person living in their head and reject reality.

>>63553855
it's not a big deal. every corpo has it's skeletons fall out of the closet, mega-yabs, menhera sluts, shit employees, etc

the ruthlessly savage, no-nonsense way they threw Riro and Tomer under the bus was the best thing they could do. Cut off the diseased limb decisively, show the world that shit doesn't fly here, move on. Chuuba managers are a dime a dozen, any chimp can do that. And Riro wasn't even one of their top talents, she was probably way overpaid for her former name, but her subs and views were scrub-tier.

>>63553996
I don't believe nobody else knew, Riro being a whore might have meant she was the first talent he actually fucked (MIGHT) but the trust is gone in the staff and also the other girls who were close to her and Tomer.
Sucks that being transparent couldn't salvage this but when it's this bad I am not sure what can. I just cancelled my last three idol memberships and won't be coming back unless Aviel gives more details on what he was up to and when they found out.

Feel bad for him though, his "friend" fucked over his entire company for pussy.

Seems like plenty of the talents were having meetings recently. If you look the signs were there. After Riro was suspended the other girls were subdued in their immediate streams after. The investigation likely yielded more than just this current yab. I'd bet any of the other talents or managers involved are going to be shortly fired or suspended. The lead manager most likely had help doing this. Also co founder lmao. Fuyo is stealth suspended while they figure out what to do. Firing 2 whores at once looks worse. Donothons are just a cover for whoring the girls out to the highest bidder.

>>63554449
>Only member that I was willingly going to view suddenly changes model out of the blue
>Model is really bad
Was there a reason for this, like "Streamer broke ties with her artist because (scandal)" or something? I don't get it.

>>63556171
Classic corpo move is to make an example out of your lowest performer and and only punish everyone else involved behind the scenes. No one else will get fired even though there's no way a co-founder was fucking just one of the girls. Simply to keep up appearances.

>>63556323
Idol talents have gone on record claiming they have control over their design. So Roca's model being a mess compared to her PL for example is just her having bad taste and making the artist draw her like that
Just another proof of why you need to wrangle women

>>63555971
What proof do you want then? A signed psychology diagnostic or something?

>>63553855
They will be fine, just like Cover after R****** yab

>>63553855
Do what Kawaii did. Don't expect anymore success outside of your current superstars, and make overly safe nepo picks for your next gen.

>>63556170
It's funny how people were calling this a year ago. With how playful the girls were acting towards management it was a giant red flag from the start.

>>63553855
they never had anything to begin with, and i am not makin fun of them.
everyone who says "omg idol is such a great company everyone else should learn from them" are people who never watch streams and support any talents.
their opinion dosent matter, Idol wont lose any viewership because of this.

>>63553996
Vesper x Kronni, Axel x Zeta , Ame x Altare, Irys x Sound Enginner.

This things just happen

>>63553855
Center Rin even more, because there's no one you would believe could have an affair with a manager less than Rin. Maybe on the DL you have some talks with some of the wild cunnies about what is and isn't okay

>>63557136
Context?

>>63555756
She's "asexual" but has said before, when she had an audience of literal children, that "asexual doesn't mean you don't get horny, sexuality is just who you get horny for", and her best friend Alex is a completely boring individual who has a borderline-autistic interest in history. He's a living History Channel documentary, and not the interesting kind. Their sex is robotic, boring, and fills both of them with regret every time it happens.

>>63553855
rebrand as WACTOR

>>63553855
Mandatory reading for your enjoyment:
>>62011878
>>61983634
COPE LIST featuring grudgeposting:
>It was a joke
>She was stoned
>OP is a fag
>That /vt/ loves blowing meaningless shit up out of proportion for drama's sake >>62012940
>schizo posts
>We've learned that anons on /vt/ will make mountains out of molehills, take things out of context and straight-up lie about vtubers they don't even watch for no reason. >>62013785
>lying about the details and using a screenshot out of context >>62014051
>You dont watch her why do you care
>"It was RP to make chat lose NNN" >>62015665
>she was justifiably asked to take a break that she clearly needed >>62017138
>"people complaining are jealous women" >>62017276
>>62017740
>It. Was. Rp. Do you think vox and finana were serious about everything they said in RP? No. Do you think anyone was? No. The reason why management stepped on is because they know schizos will take it too far, look what happened to vox >>62017895
>it's clearly rp. Go back >>62018011
>ITT: holodrones and nijifags prove themselves to be absolute normalfags.
>its normalfags crying about it

>>63558828
>Vesper
After watching *rc now I can say that he is very very VERY gay.

>>63553996
fuck to get promotion

>>63560843
based I remember the pure cope and circling of the wagons in those threads and /jidf/. I would like to say those retards might learn from this but I bet most of them bought kyo's tweet wholesale. Can't help them.

>>63560843
I hope these stardusts necked themselves after hearing the news.

>>63553855
It's not like Riro is their only problem
Look at some of the other girls they have

God their scouting is abysmal

>>63556323
I assume youre talking about Pochi, one of the main reasons is because her old artist ghosted them so it was impossible to get any changes and/or new outfits for the old model. Also she just likes the new model more

>>63553855
Nobody outside of this hole will give a shit in 2 weeks as usual dude

>>63560843
Wow sister, chill

>>63561426
Why would they? Nothing changed for them. If anything she will be desperate to return to them to get paid

>>63558828
Didn't happen

No one even watched or interacted with Riro

>>63555930
>>63556058
Is there an archive or clip of this?

>>63561689
and if it did, they deserved it

Ron was a monumental flop for idol she was their weakest EN by far.
To add insult to injury, the weakest link now has done permanent damage and set the corpo back. fucking druggy whore.

>>63553996
several of the other talents have talked VERY fondly about him too. yuko and fuyo both love him and talk about him a lot. i find it unlikely he only went after riro.

i wonder if idol will sue her because of how much her actions has damaged the company's reputation? can they?

>>63560900
And Kronii isnt a woman sooooo your point?

>>63562013
They would never do that. That is a way to kill the company for sure because a lot of shit would come out in the discovery process

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9hD68NCNMA&t=3895s
>>63561830
>>63562013
kek every Idol girl is a druggie whore

>>63555617
Even taking out the parasocial/unicorn aspect, dating the top manager of your company is pretty messed up. I wouldn't want to work under someone doing that.

>>63558828
>Irys x Sound Enginner
I laughed.

>>63554383
>If this had happened to a JP corpo then they would be ruined.

>>63553855
>desufe two ticking bombs and being transparent about it
>how they can come back?
They are less black than Nijisanji if anything lol

>>63561759
You can try digging for it. The whole stream was a mess. Besides flirting with his manager, Axel doxxed his own mother because he was stupid enough to use the same product image from bakery she owned to show what kind of cake he was going to make on stream. I wish I was making this up

>>63562520
This unironically. Idol made the right move here PR wise, but no matter what they did they wouldn't come out of this unscathed

>>63562520
nigga, manager was already fucking other girls

>>63561819
sorry wrong pic

>>63562447
>a manager harassing the talent is the same as the talent willingly going to the manager to get fucked while he whores her out to viewers
Nice try idol shill

>>63562447
They would've been ruined but were saved by SEAmonkeys and westerners. No other JP corpo has recovered from their yabs.

>>63562697
Delete it now

>>63562701
>a manager fucked the talent for months is the same as the talent fucked co-founder rrat
Nice try Holo shill

>>63563150
We expanding the list? >>63560843

>>63563197
Sure you can expand this with Mel's yab coping

>>63553996
Because it's an Israeli company. It's just what Israelis do. I dont mean in some poltranny da joowz way. Russia has the most living people with Jewish ancestry because of ww2 and their women can go on birthright and end up getting trafficked by some rich guy taking advantage of them being lost foreigners. That's why IDF posts tiktok videos of sexy Russian chicks dancing. Most of the prostitutes in Jerusalem are Russian. If you get a shitty massage and then an offer for a handy, it's a Russian chick.
Idol was just another israeli trafficking op of a Russian bitch

>>63556170
>Feel bad for him though, his "friend" fucked over his entire company for pussy.
For slav pussy, not even asian pussy. Truly the biggest KWAB of the year.

>>63563524
still tony

>>63561867
>yuko and fuyo both love him and talk about him a lot.
Not a good look desu

>>63556170
>his "friend" fucked over his entire company
literally kek

>>63554383
It's the opposite actually.
Also, this would never happen Japan. If it did, Riro would have hit paydirt.
In Japan: You can be sued for ruining the reputation of an individual or company even if it's FULLY justified.
Like for example: Let's say you cheated on your husband, and made his life a living hell and you divorced him and took all his money. (Custody in japan is usually given to the family member with more money but I digress)
If he decides to post on the internet about what a asshole whore she was or put up photos warning people of her or whatever drama...
She could sue you. And she would win.

Same goes for fucking up the reputation of a company, or a company talking about what you did in graphic detail?

Illegal in Japan. You would be sued. Ruining someone's good name over a private matter is illegal.
It's also SUPER hard to fire someone in Japan, unless they directly violate contract. Violating contract doesn't mean "don't do any work or only do very little work" it means "literally cost the company shittons of money because of something you did".
She was still getting viewers.

JP Corpos operate a lot differently.

t. works for a japanese company with vtubers a lot gaijin person

>>63556170
>Feel bad for him though, his "friend" fucked over his entire company for pussy.
Tomer was known to be bad ever since the Jewbas debuted. Should have gotten rid of him back then.

>>63563953
Confessions of a niji drone. I hope you get a ride on the yacht one day. Maybe plap a chuuba or two of your choice.

>>63562217
>"La situación humanitaria en la franja de Gaza en estos momentos es catastrófica en los dias"
>"The humanitarian situation in the Gaza Strip at the moment is catastrophic in the days"

>People are still hyper focused on Riro and the salaciousness of the allegations
>Tomer fucking talent is an afterthought in the conversation
>That is the narrative that just about everybody has run with

I'd say that Idol's PR strategy was incredibly successful.

>>63555930
Every day I wonder why he has so many hot fans, maybe people really buy his retarded boy act so they excuse him for all the stupid shit he's done.

>>63564147
who says I don't already? lol

>>63564192
True facts, everyone ripping on Riro/KyOresu
when she's just living up to her trope as a total mental alien with LITERAL PILL HAIRCLIPS and a nurse/drugging fetish who does lewd asmr.

She was just being her literal self

It's Tomer who took advantage of that situation.

Also how little do those fuckers pay that she had to do pink collar work to make enough to survive?
Also where was she based out of? I heard she was Russian.

>>63564192
Not for me, one talent being a whore and getting fired for it is a recoverable situation - head manager and cofounder grooming and fucking the talent is an instadrop. The Tomer shit is the sting in the tail, especially considering his history and the fact they kept him on. I expect current fans to dial back support or leave altogether once the idea he may have done this to their oshi too marinates for long enough.

From a purely PR standpoint the shocking public execution seems to have worked, but that could turn around in a second flat if Riro/Kyo comes out saying the manager manipulated her or his behavior was already known and went unpunished.

>>63564405
>Also where was she based out of? I heard she was Russian.
russian but lives in spain

>>63556987
Was this before or after they has an entire gen quit on them?

>>63553855
do nothing, only thing that Idol brand has going on is Rin and her fans don't care about rest of company.
just don't be dumbass with next gen and tardwraggle those that remain.

>>63565088
>only thing that Idol brand has going is 3view
kek

>>63563953
If virtual Voldemort didn't get sued for destroying .Live and ruining multiple vtubers' reputations, then nobody will.
There have been multiple cases of vtubers shitting on their former agencies and nothing has come out of it. You need to seriously try to piss someone off for them to even think of suing you.

>>63562522
retard

>>63565242
I haven't said it's particularly valuable brand.

Small corpo fans will then proceed to complain about them Holobronies only watching Hololive and being brand drones. When the rest of the industry acts like this.
I gave EIEN and Idol a chance during the Tempiss shitshow and look where we are right now.

>>63565256
how do you know they didn't?
Sometimes if it's intensely personal things don't get published.
Japan has a 98% conviction rate and often people will go to settlement instead of letting it go to trial.

Yuko and fuyo loves riding my dick - co-founder

>>63565432
you need to get better at english before you falseflag

>>63555930
The female manager Axel was handfeeding strawberries to (Gorimane) actually became head of starsEN management after that, so Cover isn‘t much better when it comes to this. As for Axel, the only thing saving him from being the runt of starsEN is Flayon having even less viewers

>>63553855
Goal: Become a manager at idol corp and have sex. any advice how to get in?

>>63565777
They'll probably try to hire a new manager soon.
Good luck, anon.

>>63553855
If this is all there is to it then it'll largely blow over (although it'll be shitpost fodder here forever). Riro wasn't very popular.
If she and/or the manager start dishing more dirt and contesting things it could go anywhere.

>>63553855
They terminated both of them so the only thing left to do is:
>Ignore the drama.
>Stream pretending to be sad about it >Move on to make money out of it.
>Profit?

>>63564600
Tomer wasnt a co-founder, he was a lead manager. And he had no history threadshitter, the rrat was proved wrong in the same day, read archives and not just the first rrat post

>no male vtuber collabs goy!!
>oy vey we didn't say anything about no male management sex off-collabs!

>>63565777
Get rid of your foreskin

>>63560751
Ah, Asexual.
A is for Alex.
Sexual for Alex.

>>63561454
I mean, Rin is a huge success.
Juna is a cunt but she'd be the first to admit to it.

>>63567800
hi tomer, how are ya?

>>63553855
EN fans don't give a shit about corps, which is why indies can compete with premier corp tubers. So how will they come back as a brand? Doing fucking nothing and moving on because all anyone cares about is their existing talent.

The only question is whether their major talent will leave over this, that's what would screw them over.

>>63568155
>EN fans don't give a shit about corps
Nani

>>63568155
Let us assume so:
Which ones may actually fucking leave?

Going with Kai.

>>63568084
only in the mind of the kind of dumbshit who thinks dead subs = success
her "success" with the shorts has basically killed her channel algorithmically forever

>>63555930
Women don't see females on screen as competition. They just saw it as a cute moment.
>But niji
I said women, not subhuman chink apes parading as women.

>>63555746
Who are you referring to? Asking for a friend.

>>63568310
And anon, be fucking honest. Who is the first talent folks will hear when it comes to Idol outside for the current shit?
Who? Roca? Fuyo?

No, of course its Rin.

>>63554536
Yes, welcome to catalog brain rot

>>63563581
>yuko known to be kind of ehhhhh
Hahahahaha
Fucking boogroids

>>63562288
>>63558828
It's actually vesperxmagni btw.

>>63562522
Was his mom hot?

>>63556692
>her having bad taste
Her model is pure sex though, your taste is the bad one here.

>>63556171
Coni.... Poko.... octopus girl whose name I forget....

>>63555822
I would kill any 10 of you in the most brutal and savage way imaginable, if it meant i could rest my head on Nadoka-chan's lap
I fucking hate Axel and his retarded ass bantz and how he basically ruins any harmony or sync in collabs, but i will give the man all the props for securing Nadoka

>>63553982
Easy to win when you have a pocket janny here and one dude running endless damage control for you.

>>63560751
>Their sex is robotic, boring, and fills both of them with regret every time it happens.
Quintessentially british.

>ITS OVER FOR IDOL THEY ARE RUINED
>Back when IdolEN was new, one of the clips I got suggested was that ghost girl talking about the massive shits she took
>I've heard she tasted her own piss among other things
I think they'll be fine. Degen shit seems to be pretty common with them.

>Mel gets molested or possibly worse, as the allegation only has the lowest offense as the premier accusation
>Cover does nothing until she threatens legal action (And Haachama stating she demanded to have her manager replaced for being a wierdo)
>Cover finally does something, but never outright states the person that was Mel's manager was terminated, just that the person had their immediate access to Mel taken and the person being removed from the managerial role
>Hololive falls back to sleep thinking the demon is slain
If Cover can walk from that, it's not too far from this

>>63568843
>I've heard she tasted her own piss among other things
Wrong. She pissed into a cup on stream and tasted it. It was the best stream.

>>63553855
>Let's be real here. How do you even come back from this, as a brand?

VTuber fans as a whole have attention span of one week, /vt/ forgets after two. They just fired some whore, that's literally it, end of story

>>63555756
nah the asexual thing was just a facade after blue homo rejected her at the aquarium in his UK trip

>>63560751
Are you telling me, if you were a woman for a day, you wouldn't spread your cheeks for LindyBeige?

>>63569173
to be fair, Kobo keeps very careful watch over her man. Even their conversation about visiting Indonesia was clearly Kobo chucking the kayfabe for that blue meat

>>63568843
this was before Rin. Rin taking off shifted the focus of the companies content.

>>63555617
t. watches westoid mutts

>>63553996
It is unlikely that they didn't know. Aviel turned a blind eyes to it because the manager did a lot of good work for him and hold certain power in the management structure. However, it is likely that the manager took Riro's side when she was punished for the stream and went against Aviel. Ariel don't take insubordination lightly and use it as an excuse to give both him and Riro the boot

>>63569508

Even if you are right, manager taking Riro's side because he was fucking her is still a good enough reason to fire his ass.

>>63560751
>her best friend Alex is a completely boring individual who has a borderline-autistic interest in history. He's a living History Channel documentary, and not the interesting kind.
So, you're telling me I have a chance?

>>63569610
jokes on you if you think that manager & riro was te only example of that kind of thing happening

>>63569610
True
My point is that it's a common tactic/move on a company, especially in a small start up tech company.
People skirting/bending the company "rules" get ignored and "allowed" until they fell out of favor of someone in a higher position. It's also a good strat to get rid of some one under who might be gaining too much favor/power.

>>63569508
Or, more rationally, Aviel saw what went on in Riro's video, asked Tomar what the actual fuck he's doing, letting that shit slide, and found out the truth once he dug further.
I imagine it's as easy as asking Riro "wtf were you thinking and why didn't Tomar stop you?" and asking Tomar "why the fuck did you this happen? Did she pull a fast one on you, were you being lazy and not looking at what she proposed, or did you actually think any of this was appropriate?"
And then sit back and listen as both parties panic and make shit up before blurting out the truth.

>>63569910
DYRBI?

>>63569374
I doubt that very much.

>Name your company Idol, not because you want to invoke Idol like standards, but because you read way too many IdolMaster doujins
I mean, good for them for making it as realistic as possible

>>63553855
This is the best thing that could happen to them. This scandal makes everyone talk about idol, even the ones that never cared about them.

>>63570411
Yeah I still think the real reason they fired her was because of the manager stuff. The rest is just window dressing. Once you have talent and management fucking each other, they kind of both have to go. She could easily sue them for sexual harassment if they don't deal with it. She probably still can desu.

>>63554587
check hololive for the real thing

>>63570491
Head talent manager, there from the start, used to be far too familiar in girls chats, married and still did this so no self control. Why would you think he hadn't tried it on with any of the other girls at any point?

>>63564600
We will know about this sooner or later, in her personal account she said that she can't speak about it cuz NDA, but she's a fucking stoner, 100% she will spit the truth when she streams as herself for a couple of bucks

>>63553996
KEK this explains how Pochi got a new model for free

>>63570491
wait until the NDA ends lol

>>63570811
This. The manager had sexpest written all over him. I hope they did a thorough investigation on his interactions with all the girls and not just Riro.

>>63562019
Vesper doesn't even like tits or asses.

>>63570640
Taking donations outside of Idol's cut was likely the inciting action, fucking a manager was likely what escalated it into a firing.

>>63570594
dude
https://www.vstats.jp/video/l4cA0unSsLA
https://www.vstats.jp/video/f_cIVab8nPI

>>63561459
So is basically what I said that happened (broke ties because [scandal]). Man... It hurts me because her original was very radiant and made me happy every time I saw her...

>>63571833
Kronii doesn't have either

>>63572343
>Idol's most popular member gets the same numbers as a middle of the road phase connect member
I didn't realize things were THAT bad

>>63572343
>comparing Rin to a raid babby and one of the most irrelevant girls in Phase

>>63561459
>>63572634
No Pochi wanted the change and lied about the old artist no longer being active

>>63572343
nice raid

>>63572736
>>63572854
look at the chart - no one raided her
she is doing buff content... so does rin

>>63572343
pankophiles turning out to be massive brown numberniggers is the least shocking thing. shameful.

>>63572703
Have you watched her streams? Outside of adhd edited YouTube tiktoks this sfw British bitch is boring.

>>63573012
They have always had a big inferiority complex. She will never be a part of Phase's Big 6 no matter how much buff content she relies on.
She is a complete non-factor for them.

>>63573059
She's pretty funny.

>>63573012
I took this post from jidf general
I don't even watch this girl

>>63573085
in terms of importance, yeah she will always have less value to phase than all of the 4 EN Gen1's, shiina, and lumi. probably puts her #7 or #8. the top dog of gen3 whomever it is will take precedence over her too.

>>63568728
Proofs?

>>63553996
I suspect he was always fucking Riro behind the scenes and was the one who scouted her into Idol in exchange for sex. Aviel was probably aware of the relationship but overlooked it because he was promised good numbers. Then her numbers were shit and she exposed herself fucking her paypigs which was a PR disaster for Idolcorp.

Using their "secret" relationship as a scapegoat was a convenient excuse to fire both of them for breach of contract without paying the termination fee. Jews gonna Jew.

>>63553855
Rehire Riro, open new branch called "Idol AV", take over the adult side of vtubing as well.

>>63572634
I went from loving Pochi to being an anti. it looks that bad. I literally can't watch her without it pissing me off now. what the fuck was she thinking? she looks like some diseased mutant 10 year old that just got her ass kicked, covered in wounds. it's fucking gross

>>63573380
>all of the 4 EN Gen1's
Uruka has lost her relevance long ago.

>>63573586
I hate the model but wouldn't have hated her over it if she didnt lie about the artist too

>>63573679
it doesn't matter. She is protected class. Pippa, Tenma, Lia and Uruka have locked in status because their branch started the company.
Phase'e english Gen 1 will always be the most important things in Phase Connect.

>>63553855
Wait fuck did I miss a happening or was it nothing

>>63572343
I don't get it. What does panko have to do with this?

>>63553855
most of you will literally forget this as soon as the next holo/niji 'yab' happens

>>63574155
>biggest idol talent in the middle of ongoing drama vs girl without even 100k subs

>>63574240
Sure, why the fuck would anyone keep discussion about some 3view vtuber from a small corpo for more than a week? Come on now. Still, a few screencaps were made and, if necessary, grudgeposts will be made.

>>63573411
Big if true.
I can't wait to see what she's cooking in revenge.

>>63574055
i would argue that, in terms of opportunities and stuff, the japanese branch are also more important than gen2, gen3, invaders by virtue of just being gen1's.
like look at this trading card game phase are the spokeman for. gen2 or invaders arent in it. just gen1. and the jp's are being used for promotional stuff.

https://mailchi.mp/japanimegames/oshipush
gen1 gets everything first by virtue of pippa being there. it also helps now that this year tenma and lia have done so well.

>>63574278
>girl without even 100k subs
*without even 50k subs

>>63573748
How did it come out she lied about the artist?

>>63574380
Origins started the company and are the foundation. Of course they will mean the most. That is how it always is for any true successful corpo.
>HoloEN: Myth is the face of the company
>NIJIEN: LazuLight is the face of the company
>Phase: Origins is he face of the company
A corpo is only as succseful as its gen1
This is not a slight against future gens that came after because there will always be stronger chuubas in those gens, but just the reality of the situation

>>63554536
doesn't change the fact that other talents may have fucked him as well, how can you paypig now?

https://files.catbox.moe/yijpi5.mp4

>Phasefags trying to pretend that anyone outside of Pippa has any relevance in their shitty company
Lmao.
Its gotten so bad that I've heard people site Pippa as an inspiration to them, not anyone else, just her, face it PC is nothing, its less than nothing, its just the Pippa company.

>>63574647
>A corpo is only as succseful as its gen1
The entirety of gen 3 of Hololive begs to differ.

>>63574614
You can literally go to the artists twitter anytime and see that he is active and still lists himself as her creator. They unilaterally deleted all mention/credits of him and unfollowed/blocked him on twitter

We just need some Palestine related yab to top it all off.

>>63574278
Doesn't that kind of prove the point that idol could use a little help? Especially their lesser known talents.

>>63575207
My money's on Rin.

>>63574925
the only marketable act that EN3 has are the dogs.
I would rather be the weakest EN1 than top EN3. they just mean more always will.

>>63575366
actual retard

>>63575366
Anon...
You should study your hololive history more

>>63575438
nta but i would rather be kiara or mori than shiori or bijou. kiara abd mori are a part of the fabric of hololive and will always be more important

>>63574897
Tenma is good, better than Pippa even.

>>63575366
>EN3
retard I'm talking about JP

>>63553855
Isn't it better to be a fan of a girl that you can have sex with, rather than a girl who categorically refuses to have sex with fans?

>>63575710
retard go back to my post and look at he common thing the examples I gave have. Here is a 2 letter hint: E N.
I'm not talking about JP never was.

When are we getting vtuber prostitutes?

I don't want them to do lewd coomerbait streams. Just normal streams while openly accepting money to get fucked

>>63576118
There's this one tiny hurdle to overcome first.

imagine your oshi privately solicits you for sex, wdyd?

>>63563953
So does Sayu get to sue Niji according to this?

>>63575614
anon there are at least 10 talents in phase better than pippa that is not saying much
pippa is the nickelback of phase connect just because youre the most popular doesn't mean youre good

>>63576365
So they had to fire her because she can't be prostituting in a corpo

>>63576685
wear a condom

>>63576826
she could sue them and she could win but they'd use every dirty trick in the book to drag it out and make it cost insane amounts of money to price her out of it

But who's the fan? I'm surprised he's still silent after learning she was fucking the manager on the side.

>>63577102
anon the manager was probably her pimp. if anything there was probably a private discord she was using to organize sex with paypigs under aviel's nose. none of them are gonna speak up because they got their dick sucked.

>>63577241
Consider the following:
1. For a lot of cash.
2. While having to share.
3. He got his dick sucked already, that means there's no carrot hanging in front of him anymore.
4. If he did in fact not get his dick sucked, then he got scammed out of thousands of dollars and is therefore still justified to talk.

>>63553982
>Phase
>A bunch of dysfunctional retards and a 'radioactive' veterans
>Despite everything, no really bad yabs
>The one graduation, while not exactly amicable, went fairly cleanly
How does the fish fuck do it?

>>63569382
Don't worry, anon, I believe that your perfect, demure, nihongo princess is the tightest of virgins and is waiting for (You).

>>63577370
I mean odds are the private acts are going to continue

>>63577621
I don't know, the novelty wears off after the first time.

>>63577663
Don't underestimate a paypig's thirst

>>63577535
lol oh I didnt realize I was talking to an actual roastie coalburner wreck

>>63577621
i mean, she's now unemployed and probably desperate for money and validation after being character assassinated by idolcorp.
probably the best situation for coomers to groom her, it'd be dumb of them to speak up.

All of you are just mad that you weren't invited to the paypig gangbang

>>63577786
Do you have a better comeback than a series of buzzwords?

>>63553855
Their publicly declaring they fired the manager as well was their attempting to right the ship, basically it's going "actually behind the scenes shit was royally fucked and you guys didn't know - but good news, we fixed it" but the thing is both learning how bad it was at the same time doesn't really make it better. Kinda like making a big cut wound and then immediately plopping a bandaid on it. It's still gonna hurt and bleed like all fuck.

>>63578323
I'd never let you have my come to begin with, let alone take it back

>>63556171
>After Riro was suspended the other girls were subdued in their immediate streams after.
holy shit was the manager making an honest to god harem out of the agency?

>>63578884
Acceptable response.

>>63564405
>Also how little do those fuckers pay that she had to do pink collar work to make enough to survive?
The other girls who've talked about it seem to be doing well, but Riro was unpopular and complained like Kiara does about getting screwed by exchange rates. Obviously the solution for that is to get wasted and sling pussy.

>>63579237
That would help explain the mystery of why the HE girls mostly quit by now.

Idol will be fine.
It's just hilarious how small corpos seem to have to weather this.
Who is the next one to have a big yab?

>>63577405
The girls like to dunk on Fishman and Fishman doesn't mind getting dunked on.
His leadership style is unironically closest to Yagoo among all the corpos.

>>63553855

Hololive came back from:

>literally a rapist manager stalking a talent
>suicide attempt
>going to war with China

They will be fine.

>>63582198
Hololive has more than 2(?) talents that turn a profit.

>>63582275
Most of them turn a profit. Look at donothons.

>>63556171
If anyone thinks this extends only to idol girls, western paypigs will be in for a surprise one day. Tsunderia, prism, phase connect. A lot of the girls are not subtle but paypigs delude themselves away from what is in front of them

>>63582462
Bros not like this

>>63582572
>lets wait and hope people forget the fact that half the talents are getting boned by management and will only be brought to light if the chuuba does something REALLY dumb
lol

I don't get it, why did they out Tomer in the "investigation" Riro was gonna get terminated regardless of who she was fucking

Я КУPИЛA AБЫ C КEM AБЫ ЧTO

>>63583311
I hope everybody learns from this to never ever hire russians.

>>63583155
Because there's only three managers and they're all public.
So when one of them goes missing at the same time as the talent they just fired, it's not hard to figure out why.

>>63553855
AVtubers are the future of EN Vtubing

>>63582557
>phase connect. A lot of the girls are not subtle
Still blows my mind lia survived that scandal, had that happened in nijien or holoen it would've unironically been a career ender.

>>63583552
NVM i just got it. If after termination Riro spoke about it idol would be the one getting fucked, so they had to for PR reasons

Where can I sign for Fuyo and Yuko threesome

>>63553855
"Idols you can meet" worked for AKB...

>>63583755
I think if you fanbase is deluded enough or you’ve been part of just enough yabs, you’ll be immune to anything.

>>63574897
Lia hit 3k ccv last night. Phase in general is seriously inclining right now for some reason. I think splitting up between twitch and youtube is finally paying off in the algorithms.

>>63574324
meth

People are going to forget about this just like everyone forgot about the plap plap plap slut. Attention spans are simply too short these days.

>>63583554
Better yet...

Prostitubers

>>63582198
>>suicide attempt
whomst've

security through obscurity only works as long as nobody cares in general

>>63553855
I started watching some girl from this company just because of this drama.
I found out that Yuko (the piss ghost) GF roleplay is pretty good lol. seems like she did that quite a lot too, If I really like it I might sub to her lol

>>63560843
This is fucking hilarious
Every single idol shill needs to be publicly shamed for all eternity if they ever dare come out of their rathole for this

>>63586268
My daughter wife is quite cute and its worth a sub, you won't be disappointed!

>>63586268
Yuko is not bad but she's too ADHD for me. Momo makes top tier ASMR. Fuyo too. Roca karaokes are great.

They are generally a good corp hopefully hiring a junkie vatnik prostitute won't be their downfall.

>>63570224

Or, the easiest explanation, mane-chan was letting her get away with it exchange of having anorexic pussy on tap, that came up, both of them had to go.

>>63577405
He is mostly hands off by now.

>>63585287
whos that

>>63591841
The only one to learn from yagoo. Hire good female managers, allow talents to memeify you, and fuck off.

What do you mean, they're based as fuck for being that transparent about the entire situation. No mercy against the ones who breach contracts due to reasons of this caliber, you just know many terminations could've been worse but they didn't have the balls to out the scumbags as hard as idol just did. I have never watched their vtubers but huge respect for going through with it despite the obvious backlash that would follow.
You just know if they were vague more people would just follow Riro wherever she ends up next and keep being lied to, this ensures she cannot take advantage of more people

>>63592419
when you put it like that, yeah I agree, they dont deserve a second chance after what they did might as well expose how deep it goes for everyone to be wary of them

>>63592419
You mean they are so shit at managing that their manager started sleeping with their talent and turned the talent into a whore and then twist the narrative by posting a hit piece that sets the tone so retards like you will whole heatedly believe some black words on a white piece of paper without hearing from the other side?

>>63592755
Sigh whatever you say man, corpos bad something something talents never do wrong, specially when they have a history of being druggie menhera whore

>>63592966
Just be glad you aren't being served an order to appear in court for rape, Tomer. Sorry about your marriage though

>>63592966
It can happen on either side. It's too premature to listen to one side is all I'm saying. I can completely understand why idol did it. Regardless it's the truth or not, it helps them escape liability by setting the tone. So for a breach of this nature, any company with half a brain will do what idol did. Is it the whole story? We will never know

>>63592256
He still manages to be authoritive while fucking off and getting memed on too, which keeps them from yabbing too badly. He's got a really good balance going on.

>>63592419

>>63553855
In hindsight, being too transparent might have been a mistake. They could have just left it at breach of contract and trust. Technically it was. Fans would hate them for it, but the adults in the room would understand and move on.

>jew is a big spender barely getting anything in return.
>chink is a savvy jew getting more things in return.
the comparison between idol and phase is funny.

>>63553855
Double down on it. Hire more women, parade them around as idols, invite paypig to orgy at company-organized events

>>63594797
>the adults in the room
So all five who don't watch idol anyway?

>>63594805
Considering that phase talents had yabs, potential of yabs on this scale, and even pulled the most toxic of youtube communities in.. the handling of yabs set the two far apart.

>>63592419
I don't trust them, there has to be more to this

>>63553855
I warned you about Israelis bro. I told you dog.

>>63574897
Literally the only thing that saved that company from having a gravestone right next to Tsunderia is Pippa being able to build some really strong connections with big content creators, and youtube shorts.

>>63592419
not against idol, but i'll wait and listen to Riro's side, for now i approve of their transparency though

>>63592419
I'm a phasefag but even I agree, the only negative I can see to this action is if it turns out they jumped the gun with little evidence, and Riro ends up being able to disprove things in a Zaion style document. If that's the case then they are completely fucked as a corpo.

But if it turns out that everything in the doc was completely true than being upfront from the start is the best move they could make for both themselves and the talents under them. I'm hoping this is the case.

>>63592419
They're handling it well, but the wound analogy another anon used is apt. They stopped the bleeding and treated the wound, but it's still hurting and handicapping.

>>63595444
Anon can you elaborate? I can't understand

>>63603614

>>63577102
Someone needs to track this down. >>63601581 apparently mentioned someone in /jidf/ was talking about it. Most likely a LARP, but given what we know, there's a non-zero chance it's real.

>>63554377
I mean it worked for Kawaii. Gen3 got pissy that management lacked infinite ad money to shill them.
Akioair also fell for muh transparency meme and tweeted about their underaged new talent which snowballed into a 100% talent exodus because of late payment all the time.

>>63554467
Only good post ITT
the rest of (You) can take meds and then kys

>>63595370
Hence the distinction between fans and adults.

Where's the porn vtuber that organises yearly meet and fucks for her highest paypiggy? Surely this pays better than JAVs

>>63607183
I was making a joke about how few adults there are here

>>63594088
he's got a good eye for finding good talent at least.

>>63573085
>Big 6
I can only think of Pippa, Tenma, Lia then Lumi and Shiina. Who else?
Uruka took too many school breaks. She doesn't hit the same numbers anymore. Airi could be better if she didn't take so many work breaks.

>>63574647
>NijiEN
Vox is the face of the company. Ignore all the previous gens and give merch and deals to Vox's gen because he makes (or used to make) the most money

>>63583155
Tomer goes on to get a new manager job in some other agency/e-sports group/business and then the truth is revealed or he does some nasty shit this kills idol. They have to reveal him now and they did. You can't let someone go free when that guy abuses positions of power for sexual favors into the industry after firing him.

>>63560843
KEK

>>63585490
Imagine
>Mocap studio where the guy(s) also wear the markers
>Stream the actual mocapped sex for the lower tier paypigs
>AR glasses let the customers do her avatar if they prefer

>>63553855
They have another gen coming soon.

>>63553855
How does this hurt them as company? They've been transparent about everything, no stealth suspension shit, no question marks over fan's heads about wtf happened

Riro on the other hand fucked herself over with this shit. The only way she can continue is as indie, and the only audience she can attract now are coomers (who are notoriously broke).

She should've rode the gravy train instead of riding her manager.

>>63611781
>how is getting exposed that management is
running trains on their talents hurts them
Trolling or retarded
Choose

>>63611781
Tomer has been there a long time and your head talent manager getting exposed for fucking talent is going to hurt no matter how transparent you are about it.
If nothing else comes out and Kyo doesn't play the
>I was manipulated by him others knew and he did this before
card they will probably get past this but it's going to leave a stain and I doubt you are going to see the girls talking about staff as much anymore put it that way.
They went from almost full trust from the community to rock bottom, that's how bad this admission is.

It’s all deserved. You don’t call your Org “Idol” and then proceed to hire anything BUT idols.
When you hire Whores, druggy, sex sex sex funny haha type girls, don’t be surprised when this shit happen.

Retarded Zionist