/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>63269366
Qrd?

>>63269366
that reminds me, is raden still suspended?

>>63269394
See >>63263567

At this point, it’d be interesting to see the organ-in-question’s schedule/spoken prospect versus the sudden ‘vacation’ they take.

>>63269396
>whataboutism
She was never suspended

>>63269366
Nijisisters status?

>>63269455
What a fucking dumbass did he think the artist wouldn't notice or bring it to public?

>>63269396
Yeah, I can't believe she puffed the biggest doobie in front of Yagoo like that. Completely unprofessional.

>>63269475
He made it until the Plate Up collab.

>>63269532
Pretty happy when they take action if someone fucks up badly. Same as with the Kyo suspension and so on.

>>63269396
that reminds me, is Kyo still suspended?

>>63269636
i don't know i only care about hololive

>>63269651
If you did you'd know that she was never suspended. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lI5wNPV_ck&ab_channel=RadenCh.%E5%84%92%E7%83%8F%E9%A2%A8%E4%BA%AD%E3%82%89%E3%81%A7%E3%82%93%E2%80%90ReGLOSS

>>63269583
She went over the line when she claimed to have a bigger bush than Mio.

>>63269696
i don't speak japanese

>Nijiniggers going 1 week without someone getting suspended:challenge level [IMPOSSIBLE]

>>63269696
She just took a break after saying she and the regloss girls drank with male managers.

>>63269366
Sasuga black company.

>>63269696
caring about hololive doesn't mean you care about regloss

>>63269455
How the fuck does this keep happening? Are they doing this on purpose?

>>63269798
>>62161898
Fucking ESL threadreaders, istg.

>quick derail the thread about hololive! spam gura ztream threads!! slide slide slide slide!!!

>>63269830
By that logic you don't care about EN and ID either, but you do.

>>63269798
Fucking EOP threadreaders, istg.

>>63269966
they're called hololive id and hololive en.

>>63269892
>>63269971
Chill out niji defense force, your bot is broken

>>63270010
Quit crying faggot, I deleted and reposted myself because I forgot to turn on randomize filename.

>>63270005
And regloss is called hololive dev_is. You're just full of shit like all ENshitters are.

>>63269366
Damn the sisters were defending him so hard too. How are they going to pivot now?

>>63270103
and the homos are called hololive productions holostars and i still don't care.

Nijibros, how's the eating? Aia promised it'll be good.

>>63270107
The NDF will just spam the board, as per usual.

>>63270142
You have no standards and believe in nothing. You don't "only care about hololive".

No no, hear me out anons. This is actually a brilliant strategy on part of Niji. Whenever a niji liver commits a yab, another liver waits a bit and then commits another yab, pulling away attention from the first. No niji liver gets flamed too long ever, and because there are so many of them, there won't be more than a week without a yab. That's what it means to be part of the "nijifamily," truly.

>>63270190
whatever. so is she still suspended?

>>63270256
Read nigga >>63269696

>>63270287
>>63269717

>could have asked the original artist to draw it with a commission and adjust as he wanted
>could have just credited the original artist after getting another artist to draw it in a style he preferred
>could have just been open and kind to the original artist
This guy is so stupid it's unbelievable he managed to get through the audition.

>>63270310
The japanese didn't reinvent dates or the fact that she streamed 2 days ago
This is the final (You) to your retardation

>>63270378
you could have saved us like 10 minutes and just said she's back

>>63270353
It's honestly white incredible how much he fucked this up, you would think he's an indie making things as he goes instead of being in one of the biggest vtubing companies and having a manager to help him sort this kind of situation

How do we fix NijiEN with every male acting like a complete subhuman trash?

>>63270535
it's likely that nearly all of the niji en management are japanese ESLs that don't explain shit or train them properly compared to the JP branch

>>63270256
Yeah she's suspended and those regloss whores should be executed on the streets

>>63269455
kek
Just because your boss and senior can do it, it's doesn't mean you can do it as well.
You need to have clique pass first.

>>63269396
>that reminds me, is raden still suspended?
No, the suspension is over but Raden wasn't able to do a stream with superchats enabled for over 3 weeks. Have seen plenty of radio silent "health" breaks with Hololive but that was something different.

>>63269394
>>63269455
He doubled down on it in replies. Admitted that he used original design as base but still refused to credit him and instead commissioned completely different person to slightly change it.

>>63270584
fire all of them and replace them with women. you can reuse the models

>>63269455
why is NijiEN cursed with endless drama?

>>63270152
Yeah, on drama lmao

>>63271006
Bad karma

>>63270976
Inverted babis? Is there an actual name for this?

>>63271042
The artist just asked him to explain to his audience and give credit. Is he changing the entire mascot now so he can avoid doing that?

>>63271147
Whatever Tamaki is called

>>63271042
So he isn't suspended?

>>63271170
a bitch?

>>63271229
Just like Kyo wasn't suspended and Enna broke radio silence on her PL account that hasn't posted in 8 months right after she got suspended

>>63269636
he's live on twitch right now

>>63271055
isn't cause most of them are actually horrible people IRL or something? I don't watch them and I'm just a catalog-roach but I get a very unfriendly vibe from what I've seen from nijiEN members, like they're bullies or used to be

>>63271451
Not all of them. But they turn into one after dealing with Nijisanji, either fans or management.
Imagine having some chinese breathe down your neck constantly and talk to you about numbers. Anyone would crack

>>63271451
the all out war shit is one of the hint, anon. no it's not about the competition, it's about what convo they had on said competition. bad karma will always be their shit

>>63269366
kek

>>63271607
damn. how many bucks this faggot has for defending his beloved shithole company. man i forgot love can blind you

>>63269396
You cannot claim to have a stronger stomach than Haachama and a higher alcohol tolerance than Lamy and expect no consequences.

>>63271607
THE NIJI DEFENCE FORCE IS REAL

>>63271850
Anon that is old news

>>63271607
NDF status?

>>63270212
It's yabs all the way down

>>63271607
NDF is whole different shit than IDF. atleast they don't bombarded others

>>63272060
They bombard their targets with hatred, vitriol, and slander

>>63271147
Whatever ReGloss Ao is.

>>63270353
I think some people have blinkers when it comes to art. They don't really get the work that goes in, so don't really get why someone feels ownership of their work. If a design is put out there it is just ethereal now. Like it isn't even greed here the idiot paid for a slight alteration. Genuinely stupidity when most fans just want a few mentions. Nijis really need a basic Vtubing for Dummies intro course.

>>63271161
Yeah, isn't it obvious why? If they want to sell official merch with that design, they don't want any chance of some nobody asking for a cut of the sales. This is a corporate decision.

>>63269366
Lmao, he can't even come up with a good excuse. Literally just said he's fucking off for a while.

>>63271451
I happened to follow one from debut for several months. (Kotoka)
At first she was really cute, she would try hard to do her job properly, she would be respectful, grateful for her position, attentive to chat, and had a great work ethic. For a month or more she even tried to hide that she was Japanese, because she thought, as an ESL, she didn't deserve to be in EN. Very, very cute girl.
But after a few months in that company she had become a complete bitch. Sloppy, badmouthed, lazy. A 100% reversal. On top of that, a number of assholes would hop on her streams uninvited and start flirting with her.
I dropped her, I don't even know if she's still streaming. That's all I need to know about Nijisanji.

>>63272411
She fully embraced her JP. Most of her streams don't even have EN translation of the title. Her only streams with good viewership are collabs with niji JP.

>>63269626
kyo didn't fuck up though? or has there been smth new since his little korea joke, since i'm assuming you're referring to that? i don't keep up with the nijis, so i'm not sure, but the korea joke wasn't a fuck up on any level

>>63269396
So is this another jp holowhores?

>>63272476
That's a sensible thing to do. I might start watching her again, if she rejected the Niji EN culture.

>>63269366
This is much better than other bullshit excuses people give like yeah we all know why

>>63272532
It absolutely was his fuck up. When people tell you you were insensitive you either ignore them and everybody soon forgets or you apologize for offending them and carry on and everybody forgets. He however kept doubling down with his
>uhhh ackshually it isn't racist because i have data supporting my beliefs
which fanned the flames.

>>63272411
She is just a JP liver like Meloco. Getting into EN is waaaay easier than getting through the JP auditions. Once you are in niji you can do whatever you want.

>>63270950
Seriously, wtf is his problem?

>>63271607
THE ABSOLUTE STATE

>>63272411
What in the absolute fuck are you talking about ? I literally just looked and 90% of her streams have en titles with Japanese titles following them.
I also skimmed through over 20 and unless it's announced to be a collab there's nobody who shows up in announced and she literally reads her chat throughout it and constantly speaks in English.

>>63271607
They're right tho. When was the last time a suspended talent showed up on other people's channels?

>>63269366
Never did like this orbiter faggot

>>63272775
I remember that pachinko parlor only gives you random stuff that you can pawn again for cash

>>63271607
even the nijifags on /vt/ don't normally cope this hard.

>>63272984
You sure about that
>>63267963
>>63269169
>>63270852
>>63271130
>>63271191
>>63271640
>>63272117
>>63272250
>>63272317
>>63272786

>>63272745
???

>>63271607
I do remember making cope posts like this as well, good times

>>63271607
>Most likely
Is the keyword here too kek.
How to not make a stealth suspension sound like a stealth suspension.

>>63272920
Yeah cuz Japan has weird gambling laws and shit but idk what that has to do with what I said

>>63273085
Are you trying to imply that the guidelines do not state that the company owns the artwork you post because hololive has made it pretty clear that's the case and it seems the same way with nijisanji.
I noticed nobody responded to >>63271130 but the argument is pretty accurate. Reading the reply chain it does seem like you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who'd disagree that the guidelines state anything but that. And since Japan sides with corporations even more often than America, there's no doubt in my mind a Japanese judge would side with anycolor and state that the works used/referenced for the art would belong to anycolor since they were designed to be used for anycolor. No different from how a Japanese judge would side with cover if someone tried to claim they owned a piece of art used for schedules or something like that.
I also have to agree that I don't see anything in their fan work guidelines that states that it can't be modified or used for reference by the people working for the company.

>>63273085
>endless walls of text
The absolute state

>>63273512
lmao he is here too

>>63272060
>Hey guys, our vtuber agency isn't actively committing literal war crimes, cut them some slack
Interesting angle.

>>63273608
Not him just asking if you find a problem with it. I literally took a glance through the guidelines and it seems like that anon is correct.
Unless you've got something you'd like to say that proves both of us wrong?

>>63273680
Go as far as you can in Rikus asshole and lick it all clean
Make it shine as bright as their rainbow

>>63273512

>>63273703
So I take it you don't actually have an argument then?
>>63273725
I mean yeah he still has to go through all the hoops of Japanese bullshittery but management at the end of the day will flat out say
>it was designed for you so it's legally ours
Otherwise the guidelines are pointless for both companies

>>63273725
Literally all he had to do was say "credit to @faggot" for the initial concept, why is he making it difficult fir himself, the artist already signed over the rights he just wanted acknowledgement.

>>63273842
If I had to guess I'd guess its some sort of Japanese thing. If there's one place that's absolutely great at complicating things it's fucking Japan.

>>63272060
kek this has to be a bait

>>63273842
Is not that simple, if he starts selling the mascot merch, they never know when the artists would backtrack because posting in a hashtag in a website they don't own is as legally binding as writing in a napkin... with snot

>>63273803
>Otherwise the guidelines are pointless for both companies
They largely are. World of difference between enforcing, and just writing a document saying we own everything. Same with how a lot of EULAs for software would be a bitch to enforce so largely rely on company big people lazy.

>>63272532
Arguing with the Koreans on Twitter, listing reasons why they should not be offended....lol, he really is that dense. It was trending in Korea and management had to step in and force an apology. If he kept it on stream, not many would care.

>>63274111
>management had to step in and force an apology
You forgot to mention he explicitly said he would NOT apologize before management did on his behalf.

>>63269396
Kill yourself nijinigger

KWAB

Odds of management starting the Zaion process for him?

>>63274880
0
He isnt a woman

remember that Nijis go through training before debuting.

>>63274592
I don't even get why this has to be an issue? Can't he just credit the original artist or pick a different design? The hell is he trying to do?

>>63275578
He wanted to skip the paying part

>>63274954
Do their instructors train them on how to get suspended?

>>63275589
But he did pay another artist, so is still out of pocket. Probably wouldn't even need to pay the original just send pwease can I use this design.

>>63275679
You cant just pay an artist to alter someone elses design and own it fucking retard
and no posting your artwork on twitter with a hashtag does not give anycolour legal ownership of the design

>>63275679
But he didnt get the OK though and stole a WIP so I can def see the other part being furious about it

>>63272539
Part of Regloss, a new branch of Hololive itself. Not a new gen of the main jp branch. They work a bit differently which is why they work and act different.
For example, they all have actual official ages, do different streams or can mention to be smoking.
For instance, Raden makes no secret streaming is new to her and how she aint much of a gamer.
Instead, she does streams about more cultured topics. Like how she does Rakugo or gives historic lessons about art and various paintings.
Discussing Hokusai, his art style and influence on the world of art as a whole or explaining the origins of contemporary art.
Somehow it works considering JPfans seem to love her.

>>63276329
So she got suspended because she's smoking during stream. Wow fuck me, no wonder holofags are bunch of snowflakes

>>63276329
JP holofags hate regloss

>>63277344
Is that why she gets 10k+ viewers every stream

>>63277376
Those are not holofags.

>>63272180
yeah nijisanji EN really needs entertainment etiquette lessons, these bitches fuck up every month or so with some completely preventable shit

>>63272411
I was a casual watcher of hers but you're completely right. Bitchier and a shit ton more focused on the japanese part of her audience despite being in EN

>>63273803
Guidelines are for other people when they use their IP so they can sue others when they infringe those guidelines. And that doesn't mean those guidelines can all be enforced in court
And no, posting in a hashtag from a website they don't own doesn't give them any rights to the stuff that was posted under that hashtag

The design is so bland uninspired and basic he could have just ignored it or said it is a coincidence. He is a retard because he admitted to using that as a reference.

>>63273085
Holy fucking kek these posters should be embarrassed about themselves. This is wild

>>63272411
>>63277561
It's obvious she just wanted to skip VTA, probably one of the sleaziest hires along with Meloco, and that's saying something considering the cesspool of recent hires

>>63269366
>nijinig steal art and get suspended
>nijikek deflecting to raden for whatever obscure reason
>look into it
>absolutely fuck all
???

>>63273992
copyright laws in the west are super strict about this sort of thing, and in japan much more so. No idea how he thought this wouldn't be an issue.

>>63277914
Welcome to /vt/

>>63277914
Typical nijinigger behavior, anon.

so... this guy could have simply asked the OC to use his concept and make his day, but rather than doing that, he asked someone to make a similar version while probably showing him the picture of the concept art.

am i supposed to feel sorry for someone here?
the only person that won, was the artist he commissioned to draw the damn thing kek.

>>63271006
Because it was a mistake.

>>63273512
>a hashtag is a legally binding contract that will definitely hold up in court

So if I posted child porn to that hashtag with the intent of it being owned by AnyColor, does that mean AnyColor is now in posession of child porn and should be prosecuted?

>>63277914
There's a reason we call them nijiniggers anon

What kind of name is Yu Q. Wilson?

>>63269366
>>63270950
kek

>>63273085
READ NIGGA
>>63268463
>Nothing you just posted matters, retard, because according to Japanese Copyright law, you cannot misattribute the creation of a work to another author, even if you own the rights to it.
>https://www.cric.or.jp/english/clj/cl2.html
>And that was the entire issue raised by the original artist. They weren't demanding ownership of the mascot, you scum-sucking idiot, they were asking to be correctly identified as the person who designed it.

>>63269366
god he is dumb

>>63280579
The issue is worse than that because not only was he not credited, he never even agreed to sell the design. So even though he said he only wants to be properly credited, he legally COULD say "you know what, fuck you that's mine you can't use it".

>>63269583
I have had employers who smoked weed on camera before. It happens.

They unironically need to fire every single male they have. Fucking idiots every single one of them, they've all caused stupid yabs or be manchildren

>>63269366
NIJISANJI AND STEALTH SUSPENSIONS NAME A MORE ICONIC DUO

>>63277902
The interesting thing is that if TTT is any indication, Nijisanji changed their guidelines hard to prevent anymore Kotokas or Melocos from getting in.

>>63281530
Doppio and Vantacrow are cool

>>63269366
Plagiarism
Trash

>>63283589
No theyre not and you’re a fag.

>>63269366
>steals art
>this is my OC
>refuses give credit
The Chris-chan of NijiEN?

>>63269366
Such a simple avoidable issue if he had any braincells or a manager with some

>>63272234
the artist themselves wrote they don't want rights to it and assured yu he doesn't have to get s new design, all they wanted was some recognition and credit.

>>63269366
I forgot this dude existed because his whole gen’s only reputation outside of niji is the bondage joke.

AJDBKCBANCBWKA I MEANT BANDAGE SHDJANSK NOOOOOO :sob: :sob: :sob:

>>63284298
>the artist themselves wrote they don't want rights to it
That is unconstitutional, retard. You cannot give up your constitutional rights.

Today I learned that Anycolor can write their own laws and own hashtags on a website called X and everything posted on them
Do these retards actually believe the bullshit they're spewing? It has to be some faggots falseflagging as them to make all of them seem like imbeciles right?

>>63269366
>>63269455
Typical Chinksanji

>>63284524
Niji doesn’t need falseflaggers to look bad when their real fans do that anyway

>>63273725
He could have credited the original artist and save himself the trouble, now he looks like a dick regardless of the outcome kek

>>63269366
>got stealth suspended
>will still be showing up in other people's streams
I'm confused. Did they change up how the stealth suspensions work because too many people were noticing or something?

>>63285561
They cant delay a stream that was months into making

>>63284524
Chinese treat any kind of authority like religious people treat church, anon.

>>63285627
Well, they can, but it doesn't make economic sense to do so for more "minor" issues.
Instead, they can just stifle SC income for a week or two by killing streams on his channel.

>>63285549
Probably still not quite that easy, since Anycolor would want to make it part of the IP of the character and potentially shift some high quality acrylic stands including it in the future.
An actual commission makes the whole arrangement formal. Except when you commission someone else to steal a design.

but nijis don't even have merch made of their fan avatars...
I'm so foncused

>>63269366
The absolute state of nijisanji