/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Elira was the snake all along

>>63233475
You should go back to your bizarro timeline

>>63233585
what is this rrat
i can't believe we lived to see feesh better than ewiwa

>>63233475
are u one of those retards that thinks just because there are x members you must keep up with all of them?

>>63234235
I feel like most of these girls have been "the worst one" at one point according to whatever agenda the schizos here are trying to push

>>63234698
Remember the Rosemi antis arc?

>>63233475
It was never good. Finana was still a slut, petra still hated her job and selen was collabing with males all the time

>>63234970
you forgot pomu was still a numberwhore

>>63233475
If you could go back in time. What would you do to fix the future?

Watch my wife.
Watching her made me remember how the Lazusydia days used to be.

>>63235097
kill finana with a hammer on stream

>>63235155
The future remains unchanged. Finana was just a pawn with no influence

>>63233475
what no management does to a mf

>>63235097
I would go back to Spring 2021 and stop Cover from graduating Coco. I'd also stop Mori, Kiara, and Ame for all taking breaks around the same time.
This way NijiEN starts small and stays small with a comfy fanbase instead of starting with a bunch of bored and disenfranchised hololive fans. Maybe if Project Kawaii got the runoff from HoloEN in 2021 instead of later in 2022, they'd have enough support to avoid the gen 3 fiasco too.

>>63233475
Sands of time, take me back.
Before it all went wrong.
When love was but a song.
And tomorrow shone as brightly as the sun.
Teach me to undo what's done.
Sands of time, take me back.

>>63235294
this is a thread about nijiEN

>>63235155
don't bully the feesh!

>>63235345
STFU Parasocial Fuck

>>63235319
And I'm giving you the big picture. You wanted to turn back time? Well there's the state of EN vtubing right before NijiEN debuted in 2021.

>>63234698
>Elira runs the clique
>Enna and Kyo run the clique
>The clique hates Selen
>Pomu hates the clique
Changes day to day

>>63235459
Its Eliras clique, Enna and Kyo run the shitting up the branch part of the clique
The clique does hate Selen
Pomu does hate the clique, she told Elira to fuck off with the 3D

>>63233475
pomu was still a whore

>>63234774
You mean the truth?

>>63235097
Stop Miko from saying nigga.

>>63235294
>I would go back to Spring 2021 and stop Cover from graduating Coco. I'd also stop Mori, Kiara, and Ame for all taking breaks around the same time.
"Hello, I'm a time traveler and you need to prevent your talent from showing the taiwanese flag on stream. Also you need to reject your EN talents' break requests. Believe me, please."

>>63235544
>she told Elira to fuck off with the 3D
i don't remember this at all

>>63234235
I think the rrat is some of the biggest drama whores that damaged the NijiEN brand were friends with Elira and got nepo'd in and they get special treatment against yabs. I.E. why Enna and Millie got slaps on the wrists for all their yabs.

>>63234698
Chill Penguin has had haters?

>>63236109
>Millie
What has she even done? She took a break after the secret group chat stream, which has been the dumbest thing she has ever done. Enna is a cunt to fans, but the fans eat it up. Her worst "yab" has been the chicken and blacks thing.
Elira's one true yab has been breaking kayfabe when she read a flirty supa and then mentioned stuff like that making her uncomfortable. Very minor, but her wording could have been directed to just the person.
Finana's retarded self yabs have been the worst, and I fully believe if there is a chuuba that can be groomed into fucking a fan it is her. Would not be surprised to see her graduated because fans ran a train on her.
Pomu seems fine going down with the ship and doing something else.
Selen is too scared to quit.
Petra is JP now.
Rosemi is a mediocre entertainer stuck in a bad company.
Only Elira, Pomu and Petra (maybe) deserve better.

>>63233475
They’re still all streaming, whats the problem?

>>63236437
>She took a break
Silent suspension. Hence why she was dead silent on Twitter and instead tweeted on her PL account.

>>63236433
oh yeah, early on obsidya it was all about hating petra for pandering more to her JP audience than EN. She was also called boring whenever she did stream in EN, only ever getting praised when she did her piano streams.

>>63235544
>Just went on a week long trip alone with Elira
>Hung out with Elira, Millie, Reimu 3 months ago
>Kissed Enna
Weird way to show your hate

>>63236552
Sure. Point stands - she has been stupid, not malicious.
The one bad apple in the first 3 waves is Enna and maybe Reimu, although she is no longer a Vox cocksleeve afaik.
Enna pissing off /vt/ doesn't help Nijisanji's image, but the company itself is to blame for the "good old days" being gone. They have raked in so much shit publicity they can blame no else any longer.

>>63236527
yeah I love content like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjF3bYdL_gs

>>63236814
>she is no longer a Vox cocksleeve afaik
Vox had his fill of her. Now she's pushing ships with Vanta and even Luca. Absolutely vile whore

>>63236433
Yes, Mega Man X literally killed him

>>63236613
Didn't help that Selen and Rosemi also bullied her, and Petra being the professional /and bottom that she is was cool with it and played into it. I think Rosemi enjoyed it a little too much, but that's just because timing wise it fits a rrat.

>>63236437
>when she read a flirty supa
was that it?
my memory was someone in either elira or pomu's prechat who was some degree of possessive/protective of elira when pomu's 2nd schizo minecraft was scheduled
elira replied to the dude saying obviously she gave her consent and in her next stream elira essentially commented on how people were becoming too parasocial to her
obviously i don't claim a perfect memory

HOLOSEETHE

>>63236807
wasn't it Elira that kissed Enna
Pomu kissing Enna would be in every catalog thread that mentions her

>>63237650
>assuming catalogfags know what happened on stream
Bold of you.

>>63235689
Bitter Tsunderians?

>>63237551
No, it was during this stream
https://youtu.be/fsgIrvGgtGM?t=25815
Instead of just telling the guy, and thus chat, to not send her chats like that, she had a classic western woman streamer moment and chastised her entire chat for something one guy did. Still, she had reason to and did say she loves her audience. clique or not, to me this has been her biggest yab, which is quite minor all things considered.

>>63237650
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oLgSOr2rS8
Pomu kissed all 3 a few months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9kL3it5cFI

>>63237633
>nijisanji thread
>holo not involved in any way
>h-h-holo!
rent free nijifag.

>>63239184
>>63235294

>>63236437
>Petra
Opinion disregarded

>>63239110
why are women like this

>>63239292
literally filtered. good.

Nonstop Niji yabs is amazing. I love it! Why would I want to go back?

>>63239317
Enjoy your Shu spam collabs

>>63235345
I have to, she gaslit me

>>63239241
Retard yout just proved my point, you can read right? that is a nijifag who don't want hololive fans for the first two EN niji waves. AKA another nijifag who have to bring holo into a niji thread, RENT FREEEE.

>>63236613
That was the beginning of Anya Petra Global too

>>63233475
>Had to deal with Juan godawful posts and Sykkuno'a face plastered every thread plus LGTVBBQ faggotry
>Had to deal with holotrannies larping as pomudachi spamming the most ridiculous shit to stir up everyone
>Had to deal with brapfish posting, educate yourself faggotry and egirl bait
>Had to deal with apex numbers and acid shitposting, Selen hating everyone posting and HAHA spam
>Had to deal with Petra is JP, low effort streams, she's studying instead of streaming shitposting and Petra is a bitch narrative. Actually in retrospective they are right.
>Had to deal with the Rosemi is a backstabber narrative, holobegging non stop (Still happening nowadays), she's a fake and a slut lazy shitposting
No, I'm fine with what we have nowadays

>Kyo gets protected despite numerous yabs, and being pus filled tumor in general
>Zaion gets fired for no reason
It's because Kyo was important to Enna, who is in the clique

>Enna and Millie had a nepotism hire in the last stages of audition
>he goes apewild and starts leaking everything and talks shit about Nijisanji
>As a result the "Krisis" wave is missing a member and has no debut song
Nepotism strikes again

>Elira gets all her friends hired
>Shu who is a tumor on Luxiem with his awkward mannerisms and clearly doesn't belong
>Uki who is an unabashed racist who keeps maliciously joining girl's collabs
>Enna and Millie who are responsible for innumerable yabs to boost their numbers
Nepotism at its worst. Imagine if we actually got some great girls in the mold of Pomu or Selen. Instead the branch fills up with these horrible nepo shitters

Man I member the good old days of NijiEn. No Enna x Kyo bullshit, no Luca sexpesting, no stealth suspensions or yabs or clique nonsense. Just pure goodness and limitless potential.

Then fucking Ethyria happened. I don’t even mind the males because I expected males from the beginning but Ethyria was the start of a massive fucking downfall. Every branch after Ethyria has been completely forgettable to the point I have to question who is hiring these people

>>63240042
The shit they have to deal with now is much worse, and the worst thing is that they cannot say anything otherwise the males will destroy their reputation

>>63235621
I look at them every once in a while to make my pp feel.

If you just watch Rosemi and ignore everyone else it's like nothing has changed

>>63240318
Reimu saying that Rosemi and Luca were shopping for underwear together https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py00rvy7Kqc&t=4958s

>>63240148
Enna was the only bad part of Ethyria. Nina was so based that she almost made up for it.

>>63240513
it took a long time for Nina to come into her own and then when she had a stronger concept of who she was as a vtuber she reincarnated

>>63240174
they seem to be able to take it in stride now
they are getting their projects done in Japan, pomu isn't menhera'ing like earlier in the year, selen can run tournaments through other members
even enna seems to have chilled out because even she realized she can only be so much of a bitch
i would only feel bad for people who started with petra but they should have seen the writing on the wall

>>63233475
NijiEN was at it's best when it was the most heavily inspired form Hololive.

>>63233475
Get the fuck over it.

>>63240794
>pomu isn't menhera'ing like earlier in the year
That's because she is graduating and doesn't give a single shit about whatever happens. Why do you think she hasn't said a single thing about not doing recordings for AR Live Revenge?

>>63241222
The trips of truth.

>>63240794
>pomu isn't menhera'ing
lmao

>>63240361
Retard

>>63241457
>no argument
I accept your concession rosecuck

NijiEN was never good

>>63241574
This

>>63240318
lol

>>63241222
kill yourself retard. you got all this from made up liveposting

>>63241325
Clips of this happening? Please. I need it.

>>63241481
Because Reimu is lying about what happend

>>63239315
>women
Its vtuber girls, nothing like regular girls.

>>63242376
Sounds like cope

>>63242496
because you'll only believe whatever you think makes the girls look bad.

>>63242376
>>63242586
Rosecucks, this is embarrassing kek

>>63242586
>what you think
I posted a video with proof that rosemi went underwear shopping with luca, keep coping rosecuck :)

>>63236109
People need to realize that all Elira's friends who got "nepo" hired were all friends by virtue of being in the same moderately successful indie vtuber/utaite circle. That's why they got hired. They didn't hire random people with no content creation experience that just happened to be her friends.

Pomu, Millie, and Elira were all more than qualified, in the upper echelon of the females they've hired for the branch as far as their resumes. The guys I know less about but the qualification bar for males is already exceptionally low, and they did have experience of some sort at the very least.

>>63242755
I mean Enna not Elira....

>>63233475
no. you let a black company walk all over a bunch of kids and exploit them and you opened your mouth too so your god emperor riku can come on your face too.
y'all deserve to suffer, every single one of you cunts and I hope y'all suffer more

>>63242755
Their recent male hire is a 2view lmao, how is that successful

>>63242814
what on earth are you blabbling about?

>>63240103
Niji could've gotten the Advent doggos, instead you got 2 mixed waves and a male wave that all flopped. Think about that for a bit

>>63242860
>Playing dumb

>>63242908
>nousagi is a schizo piece of shit
many such cases

>>63242880
Would have flopped hard without le dorito.

>>63242846
Who are you replying to I didn't mention anything about successful?

>>63242880
i'd be very surprised if the dogs tried niji before holo, proof?
nijiJP maybe but they wouldn't leave travelers out like that

>>63242792
>>63242755
Enna did not stream prior to NijiEN.

>>63242946
>Nijisister wasting oxygen
Many such cases

>>63242979
We know they liked NijiEN to the point of collabbegging, and they were barely 3views by the time of graduation, why wouldn't they apply? But we'll never have proof either way so think whatever you want.

>>63243052
>shitskin upset I called out his waifus shitty fanbase
and i'm not a sister, fag

>>63243171
Sure you aren't lmao

>>63243108
>collabbegging
is this referring to that tweet with Pomu?
wanting to talk to Pomu is different than wanting to work for nijiEN, especially since like Kiara they have similar interests and life experiences

>>63242979
>before
More like at the same time, they mentioned taking a bunch of "tests" a bit after graduation, likely auditions for both companies. Also, remember the Pomu xweet.
>>63242948
That I agree with, not because of the >le blue dorito boost, but because of the >le rainbow packman nerf. Nijifans would flame them and ignore them for being too childish, like they are now. They're a much better fit for Holo.

>>63243190
>170

>>63243108
At least they ended up somewhere better and now a Niji is the one begging.

>>63240361
huh i let this play for a while and i never watch her but i didnt realized reimu was that good in nihongo

>>63240280
mind sharing?

>>63243190
never reply to me with that wigger again
>>63243247
>pomu makes a post about cute gorls like always
>this is somehow begging when she didn't even at them
>unironically using the all out war comment like it was some serious statement
I can literally smell the pag pag on you

>>63243247
>>63243191
Neither begged.
That's like saying all HoloJP "begged" when Salome debuted and the "desu wa" craze began. Showing appreciation/being aware of other vtubers is not begging, insane tribalfags.

>>63233475
No need to Nijibro.
All those girls are still good streamers with great communities.
Just enjoy them and support at all cost.

>>63243360
If you go looking, keep in mind that she was under 18 when she took those pictures. Any anon posting them is a dumb one.

>>63243029
She was an utaite.

>>63243441

>>63233475
Elira is basically the same. More JRPGS now, I guess.
Finana finally did coom shit. She peaked.
Pomu is still cute and funny. I just miss her wagie ragie.
Selen outed herself as menhera and shy.
Petra is actually now NijiJP.
I think Rosemi is the biggest downgrade, but her fans, regardless if old and new, share being entranced and annoying so that hasn't changed.
3/6 changed and 3/6 are more or less the same.

>>63243567
>it's real
wtf, i hope pomu got some serious help, why did they let her be on the net at all?

>>63243586
so are kyo and enna fucking? i stopped watching her since it seemed that way after so many """""""""JOKES"""""""""

Hey nijibros is Victoria actually trying to fend off the Luca interactions or was that just catalog shitposting? If she is what does it mean for the branch if she is successful?

>>63242755
Retard.

>>63234235
There is no rrat, posting "rrat" won't change the fact she is a retard. I don't understand the mental illness on this board where people will look at the person who pooped in the bed and everyone knows it and scream "TAKE MEDS, YOU CAN'T EVEN PROVE THERE'S POOP IN THE BED OKAY?".

Elira factually 'recommended' all of her retarded friends and it turns out cancer tumblr people who hate straights, love sucking cock and hate white people and worst of all are mostly canadians are the worst kinds of people you can hire. NijiEN was succeeding in spite of those retarded faggots and then they managed to fuck it up anyway.

>>63243854
Some girls realized they could get some internet fame by going to a male dominated space like /b/ and garnering attention. She wasn't even close to the only one. And she isn't even the only vtuber to do so either back in the day. Each large vtuber corpo has (or used to) have at least one. But in her case, it was clearly a dumb mistake that I'm glad she got shit for, but not nearly enough.

>>63243944
Yeah, you think a flip girl is going to pass a chance like that

>>63243854
A year and a half too late but Pomu being menhera is no joke.
>>63244156
Half right, half wrong. You have no idea what motivated Pomu to do that and have the wrong board in regards to which women would visit for 4chan clout.

>>63243944
I honestly don't think there's anything romantic or sexual at all between them and they share a much more disgusting bond of sitting around mirroring each other over how cool they think they are looking down on people. The type of friends that would self destruct if they ever lacked a mutual enemy

>>63235294
Production Kawaii's gen 3 graduated for 2 reasons- Oceane was probably running a discord of SEA underage kids spamming the chats of the other girls. She simply had to go. Meanwhile the other 4 were pissed off, and then even more pissed off when they found out Koshita sold the company to some black company media conglomerate and changed their contracts. So they dipped.

Kawaii can't incline as it is because most of the girls treat it as a pure hobby and put no effort into numberfagging. They're just not interested. Even the ones who complain about their office wagie black company slave job filing TPS reports 10 hours a day treat kawaii as their hobby to blow off steam, they don't want it to be a job. Only Nene, Reina and maybe Fat truly want to incline.

Kaya's ass.

>>63244265
True, 2 that I know of used /a/. But Pomu used /b/.

>>63243715
>Pomu is still cute and funny. I just miss her wagie ragie.
Pomu is extremely soulless now. After she quit her job it was like her joy and effort disappeared and she started slowly phoning it in and leeching instead of just taking it easy. I mean it makes sense when you were making 45k a year (lol) as an office wagie plus tip and then you quit to become an anime girl, you'd better make sure your anime girl salary beats your real life salary.

>>63244264
pass a chance on a wigger?

>>63244316
Factually, she used /b/. As a home board? No. Women tend to always go to one in particular, and so did Pomu.

>people honestly think Pomu was on /b/ 10 years ago
They want it to be true so bad lol

>>63244358
i stopped watching pomu after her pretending to like metal gear, you know she's just faking it when she scream at the metal gear 3 remaster, when true fans like me are fucking mad at konami, also because she bought a pachinko like the autistic girl she is "uwu i'm such a fan"

>>63244358
I disagree, and funnily enough what you wrote is exactly what I feel happened to Rosemi.

>>63244359
a crippled wigger at that

>>63244466
Does this tactic ever work?

>>63244469
>true fans like me
lmao she's not a jaded cynical /v/ermin like you, dial8

>>63244469
Retard

>>63244469
So true. She's not a real fan like Mori. SNEAKING!!!! Lmao!

>>63244666
me neither, but i genuinely like the game and i hate watching whores playing it to appeal to nerds without even taking kojima into consideration, at least play death stranding you fucking whores
>>63244802
fuck mori, marine's gay song was 10000% better than everything she did so far

>>63244952
>at least play death stranding
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA retarded shitposter you DID NOT WATCH POMU otherwise you would know that she did play DS

>>63245005
of course i didn't since it happened afterwards, are you as retarded as her?

>>63245301
>no argument
I accept your concession troon

>>63218917
your days were never good, you were just a retarded contrarian watching a bunch of fujoshits who wanted those faggots to come in

>>63242880
no they couldn't. FWMC have stated that they were hololive or bust.
>>63243108
if you're talking about that one tweet at pomu that has been spammed all over this board, you are a retard.
You can all believe whatever retarded headcanon keeps you sane, but FWMC have stated they were holo or bust, and to that end applied to both holoJP and EN, both by themselves and as a duo, multiple times
They are also massive idolfags, to the point of being literal saviourfags. Niji was never a consideration for them

>>63245423
why would i argue about something that happened after i stopped watching her?

>>63245301
>plays his most recent game last
Wow what a fucking surprise! Why didn't she play them in a random order?!?

>>63245588
Why are you arguing about something you don't know anything about, would be the better question.

>>63245588
Because you keep replying

>>63244952
I played 1-3 in 2008 when the essential collection was released on PS2. Then in 2011 4.
Played PW and didn't like it much. Played V and liked it, but realized I liked GZ much more than TPP. By DS I doubted how much of MGS was Kojima's genius and how much was owed to whoever tard wrangled him. He is a key figure no doubt, but still.
And I say this with MGS1-4 being my favorite series of all time.

>>63245585
Proof?

>>63245664
They joined Hololive and not Niji.

>>63243530
If anons here actually thought like this, they would not be posting on this godforsaken board in the first place.
You're right though

>>63245585
Well, they worked as vtubers for a non-Holo company prior to their current personas, so they couldn't have been 100% Holo or bust.

>>63245609
why are you acting like those game are related in any way other than having the same director? there's no reason for her to not play ds first
>>63245633
>>63245641
keep giving money to your e-whore
>>63245647
didn't ask and your opinion sounds retarded desu

>>63246315
Doubling down on being retarded

>>63246315
>shidding and farding after he loses the argument
Classic /v/ermin

>>63246315
>didn't ask and your opinion sounds retarded desu
Now you know how the whole thread feels.

>>63236851
>MALES!
>IN MY NIJI?!?!
Say it ain’t so

>>63236437
Rosemi was a superstar in the making when she started out. She was a depressed wagie at the time that had passion to try and make it big. She had a lot of silly ideas plus the drive to actually make them a reality even when they were shitty (most of them were shitty) leading to some scuffed cringe kino.

Once she quit her job and went full time as a vtuber all of that went out the window and she's just been coasting for the past year and half. Was really excited to see her grow over time but she stagnated hard.

>>63247647
offcollab in a hotel room between male/female shipping pairs
great Nijisanji content

>>63243441
NIJISEETHE AND NIJICOPE

>>63248443
Cool, Enna isn’t my girlfriend so i don’t care, if you got cucked thats on you.

>>63248443
Average Netflix and chill niji stream

>>63248578
They all did it though. Even Pomu and Rosemi

>>63247837
It was a pretty special time for her out of everyone. Looking back there were some redflags like the retarded aversion to collabs and insisting she was so uWu super shy, but she was driven and streaming was her escape and it showed. All her zatsus were about her family and herself. She did guerillas. Given her energy and work pace you could tell the little retard was just daydreaming content at work.
Her blatant lack of preparation could actually be excused back then. Glad she escaped wageslaving. Too bad she shone too bright and burned too fast.

>>63244490
It happened to both of them. They are both probably going to vshojo within a year anyways.

>>63244952
>at least play death stranding
no one is this stupid, this is a shitpost

>>63235097
Convince Hitler to not attack the URSS when he did, but later.

>>63248841
I don't think so, but sure, I see Pomu going just to not deal with shit management. But Rosemi? Why would she? Not like she has big projects or is ever at odds with management.
Plus, of the two, Rosemi bought into the whole NijiEN family more, and because of a personal rrat of mine I see it being less likely given she can't be the token "seiso" girl of Vshojo anymore.

>>63249438
Interesting, I guess you don't really watch her then. Rosemi did a ARG, made a whole video game and self-produced an entire cover. She's not at odds because she does all the shit herself, but she has briefly talked about stuff not going through but she doesn't dwell on it for more than a few seconds on stream.

>>63249438
I somewhat agree with this. Even if she wanted to get away from NijiEN, joining vshojo will not help her maintain the "seiso" image she so desperately wants. Then again she'll finally get to play Tekken so who knows.

>>63233475
I miss the Lazusydia era so much... same with only Myth era

>>63249717
>Rosemi did a ARG
An ARG that ended up going for way too long and had a shit pay off
>made a whole video game
No she didn't, it was more like a demo at best or a teaser at worst
>self-produced an entire cover
Yeah in the same way Selen "made" every project of hers, that is paying others and then taking the credit for herself lmao

>>63245664
Applying multiple times to holo was in their early q&a stream
the holo or bust was from one of their FWMC mornings, and mococo outed herself as a saviourfag in a separate fwmc morning in response to why they start every stream 5 minutes early

>>63233475
i used to want this but after randomly thinking about it, minus the annoying open VCs doesn't feel like that much changed between pre and post ethyria
like if you already dropped elira for example you will drop elira again after you go back with time machine, finana probably already groomed by troons and some PL paypigs from dicksword before obsydia even debuts etc

it is funny that nijinig use flip slurs to insult anyone they dont like while most nijifans are flips themselves

>>63249438
>But Rosemi? Why would she?

Look at the numbers roach is pulling after leaving.

>>63249858
>"seiso" image

If Henya is doing great in vshojo it really doesn't matter.

>>63234774
>Rosemi antis arc
qrd? unless you're just being sarcastic.

>>63236437
>Rosemi is a mediocre entertainer stuck in a bad company.
lol retard

>>63233475
Pomu being ignored by kojima really destroyed her mental health

>>63235097
Destroy the Azur Lane devs
Destroy Rockstar before they made GTAV
Try to take down algorithm-hungry clipper channels and HLM

Assassinate Tama

>>63234774
Rosemi ignores anyone that isnt in her secret circle. So based and fuck Rosemi

>>63244144
>cancer tumblr people who hate straights, love sucking cock and hate white people and worst of all are mostly canadians
i'm not even opposed to any of that and they turn me off

>>63253031
Where is the lie, rosecuck?
He is right. Rosemi is a has-beeb

>>63249717
I slowly phased out in the middle of her 2022 "I am collabing every day because I became a vtuber to make friends" arc after she quit wage slaving, so you are right, but I keep up: the ARG workhorse was Fulgur, the game was cute but short and is still inferior to literally 0 Obsydia unity lmao, and Rosemi is tonedeaf so I don't care about her music, but if you do follow her, let me ask: how often, if it all, does she interact with Maria?

>the ndf pretending like elira didn't nepohire anyone

>>63253170
>>63249858
Sad the other anon didn't respond but another reason I doubt Rosemi would go to Vshojo is because of this rrat I have.
>Rosemi has been mean to Petra since day 1, beyond just doing it because Selen did it
>shows animosity to no other member
>Rosemi talked about imposter syndrome like 8 months into the gig: said she didn't want to be viewed as seiso and did cuss and joke around with friends
>so if you take her demeanor and add cussing and bantering, you get a personality similar to the one Petra has
>but since Petra already has that personality, despite her bemoaning her seiso kayfabe, Rosemi never made the switch to cussing, although she does banter a little more - thus her friction with Petra, which at times seems more real than for laughs
>anyone that has watched Rosemi for a while has to have picked up on how she is very stubborn about certain things to the point she would rather drop something/not do something because of how stubborn she gets
>I think this is what happened to her personality: she was more open with viewers as a wagie, but she realized she had a niche no one had an interest in and stuck to it
>Maria debuts, the Rosemi comparison write themselves; afaik the two barely interact
>my rrat as to why? Because Maria, regardless of her intentions, invades Rosemi's niche
Henya being the "seiso" one of Vshojo, Rosemi again having tried so hard to be more approachable to other Niji members and being so stubborn about shit she doesn't often disclose, makes me think she won't jump ship. I mean this girl likes watching Aris - I think she meant to drop the super seiso act but would rather stand out. And because of how stubborn she is about this, switching to Vshojo makes no sense - no gimmick or uniqueness to be found.

>>63244469
this
she won't play survive because it isn't kojumbo but she'll scream over the remake that also isn't kojumbo
fake ass pickme

>>63262423
>this girl likes watching Aris
Green Hagrid?

>>63262236
I dont know if the nepohiring itself is a bad thing. I mean, aren't some of the early holoJP members also confirmed to be nepohires? It's just unfortunate that Niji's nepohires were massive cunts

>>63262832
Yes.
Other factors that feed my rrat: she stopped waging for this meaning she had to make sure she makes a living off of it. Her parents, mom in particular, are overbearing as fuck to the point she may not do this anymore if they fear she can't feed herself and may force her back to being a wagie - she was working in a bank so maybe her parents got her some banking management gig.

I love the "Petra is NijiJP" bullshit when she barely speaks japanese outside of doing one stream per month in japanese

>>63263392
nigga she literally lives in Japan

>>63263351
I thought she was a programmer was /here/ lying to me?
Also she got her own place from this, surely they realize it's a pretty good gig she can build a nest egg on even if it won't last forever.

>>63256121
because they are the kind of people who point at gays and treat them like special need kids

>>63267880
>Programmer
What the fuck? No she had a paid internship in a bank, something I am guessing her parents set up for her. She has had her own place since she became Rosemi. Unless she has talked about owning a house, and with the hard times she went through last year where she barely made money through supers in some streams, I doubt she is doing as well as Selen/Pomu/Elira are.

I like Rosemi because she is very cute.

>>63244469
this is so fucking true, almost every vtuber is trying to pretend to be a long time fan of some shit just to get otakus or /v/irgins hooked

>>63268418
>pretending to be a long time fan
Do you guys just take turns to see who can be stupider?

>>63268418
She never "pretended to be a long time fan"

>>63233475
>>63233475
>Come into thread to read about the good old days
>Mfw remainded they were barely any good days
>Reminded why stopped watching.
I do miss the gamer dragon.

>>63262236
Enna is the weirdest one. The rest are plausible

>>63233475
Truly the golden age of Nijisanji EN... fuck you Luxiem, fuck you

>>63233475
simpler times

>>63270283
>>63270647
But this is mostly right.>>63243715
Hell, Finana doing coom shit is the same old, same old. I think you just want to go back to a time where just tribalfags /here/ were so blatant with the Nijisanji hate.

>>63270881
Were the ONLY ONES* I meant.

>>63233475
There's a reason why the only liver I watch nowadays is vivi.
Come join the cause today >>63197033

>>63262423
If you put it that way, this means Rosemi will never join Hololive due to the exact same reason. But wouldn't anyone with her so called "seiso" gimmick want to jump ship? Theoritically if given the opportunity I mean. Especially since there is no difference between staying or moving companies

If I could turn back time I wouldn't be here watching anime girls and fighting about them on 4chan. It's insane how different my entire life could have turned out based on one decision. I don't know why I cut myself off from so many opportunities and chances at love. Where did I think that would have me end up? I can always recover and salvage my life in my 30s now but the damage will always be there, I'll never be that dreamy young person I was again that had hopes, wonder and aspirations.

>>63241222
>Trips
The prophecy

>>63233475
>Elira

>>63271792
Damn man, I feel the exact same way. How the fuck did you describe me so perfectly

>>63244469
Hey I hate kurosanji as much as the next person but this post reeks of lard and dorito dust locked up in a basement

>>63245647
Cool but who asked

>>63233585
She wasn't a snake. She was a Trojan Horse.

>>63271792
Nigger, this board’s only been around for three years

>>63271792
There is still time now to do what you want. I believe in you. ( •̀ ω •́ )y

>>63274852
I wasn't the guy who typed the post but thank you anon

>>63235097
Beat elira with a stick when she tries to recruit Millie

>>63275881
Shouldn't you beat Millie with a stick for dragging Enna in?

>>63263453
I don't think you want this to be the criteria just shit on Petra, since it opens it up to many other clearly EN vtubers.

>>63241222

>>63245647
>I doubted how much of MGS was Kojima's genius and how much was owed to whoever tard wrangled him. He is a key figure no doubt, but still.
This. It reminds me of John K with Ren & Stimpy.

>>63233475
back before the attention whores millie and enna got in

PARASOCIAL FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS

>>63280154
John K had other issues like his lust for teen pussy and his seemingly immortal 100 year old WWII vet father who thinks he's a retarded pansy.

>>63244469
Based deranged grudgeposter.

>>63281616
That word doesn't mean what you think it means

>>63233475
They could be the top of the en sphere now...if not for everyone hitching all their eggs to the luxiem basket. Now it's dead and they're left with nothing.

>>63233475
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Nj96A_p_hI

>>63253497
About a year and a half ago people just started antiing Rosemi hard over really mundane shit like skipping a monthly membership letter and "being distant towards her fans". Her fans got run out of the Obsydia thread into /rose/ which antis also defaced until it stopped get posted, then there were daily bumplimit Rosemi anti threads for at least a week and on and off for another month.
Then things just went back to normal like nothing had happened, not really clear why it occurred.

>>63243247
kek
she started replying to 2views after this image made multiple rounds in /vt/
>>63243441
>>63243527
and her defenders started downplaying again

do you have the pic where Pomu started sucking off Mori after the pomudachis threatened Konami with riots?

>>63282714
She's replied to 2views plenty of times before

>>63246211
They wanted to be idols. No other corpo can offer that (re:singing, dancing, orisongs, covers, live concerts) for their EN branch beyond Niji, which would have been a sidegrade given all their concerts are donr via con.

>>63271666
Again, Rosemi seems to have bought in hard to muh NijiEN family.
And Rosemi is not making it into Hololive. She missed the timing where she could have snuck in as Council or Advent and doesn't have the talent for it.
I don't want this to turn into blind tribalfagging, but to me, Biboo is everything Rosemi seemed like she would be early on and more. Being seiso and cute in this sphere is nothing special, and it got Rosemi as far as NijiEN - she is lucky.

>>63284361
>Niji
Did you mean Holo? Anyway, I know who they are and obviously Holo was their goal, but they also presumably wanted gainful employment. I just don't buy that, despite their idol aspirations, they would be willing to work for a eroge publisher like Mangagamer but Niji was somehow a bridge too far. Maybe they didn't apply to Niji on the grounds Holo wouldn't take ex-Nijis but the whole "Holo or bust" thing is just not true.

>>63236918
lol

pomu.!!

>>63267880
Never trust rosecucks. Imagine calling her a programmer because she messed around with RPG Maker lmao.
Fulgur helped with the ARG.
Next thing you know they'll say she is ex special forces because she has eaten MREs and wanted to get a butterfly knife lmao

>>63236437
You're really underestimating the amount of damage the secret group chat stream did.
It was one of the reasons that caused multiple successful talents to leave Niji after management cancelled the 3D concert to spite them all.

>>63292389
Thats one juicy rrat

>>63282389
Rosemi came with antis because there were allegations about her being cutthroat over her PL the allegations are 100% true if you dig but in hindsight, they were just extremely mild compared to the modern state of the vtubing scene. They seemed a lot more outrageous back then when people were playing a lot nicer all around

>>63285519
Contrary to your train of thought, if I were to compare their indie personas, ignoring Biboo's streaming endurance as a determining factor, I would actually root for Rosemi as the better contender for spot in Hololive. And she isn't as untalented as you think she is, she's a jack of all trades, heck her fps capabilities are better than biboo's. But I have to agree, given how she had deviated her persona to adapt to the condition she is in, Rosemi is lucky to be where she is right now.

>>63282389
>>63293109
Both wrong.
>Rosemi had very few antis because of PL shit
>She debuts and it's forgotten, like with Nina
>A lot of day-one Rosemi fans pointed out that after she quit working, her attitude toward streaming changed and she changed priorities to making friends
>every Rosemi fan at some point is delusional about her for good or bad, meaning the gap between new and old fans widen
>Old fans called new ones simps/yesmen, new fans called old ones antis, sane people dropped her and moved on or just cared less about her
>while this goes on she did a monthly member letter and skipped the one in March, like one or two retards in the general ritualposted about waiting for the March letter, it never came and we got an April one
>Rosebuds are blind in their support of Rosemi and constructed a schizo that went crazy because she missed a monthly letter
>newbuds were also retards that to this day engage with even the most retarded of shitposts against Rosemi
>people see this, shit about her PL resurfaces, roseschizo went from being a crazy PL fan turned anti, to someone that went anti over a letter, to being a jealous indie girl, to being the same person who is an enna anti
>shitposters notice that old rosebuds started calling Rosemi lazy and a shadow of her former self and notice how Rosebuds bite the bait every single time, and how calling her a whore in particular pissed them off
>she gets called a lazy whore often, rosebuds go wild trying to whiteknight, threads are shitposting breeding grounds
>every Rosemi-centered thread is doomed because Rosebuds eat each other up, which is why two /rose/ splits and an Obsydia general died
Roseschizo is now so infamous I know someone is going to disagree with me and say how it was one person, or some SEA schizos on a discord or something - Rosebuds built more kayfabe around their boogeyman than about their oshi

Holotroons? Our response?

>>63233475
>Elira
>Finana
>Pomu
>Selen
>Petra
>Rosemi

>>63291855
>Fulgur helped with the ARG
Proof? Didn't she say she needed someone to test run it and asked Fulgur to try and he didnt answer in time so she wasn't sure if things were feasible

>>63293441
Eh...
Nah, I think Biboo was a better fit for following through with plans and being more extroverted. The Holos that focus on FPS are few, which you could maybe make an argument for, but a total Soulshead like Biboo is unique in EN, more than FPS shit where you have Watson. What-ifs are pointless to think about, anyhow.

They hate us because they fear us. This board and the jannies are more pathetic than /r9k/ and /fit/ combined.

>>63233475
Just take small corpo pill anon, you won't regret it

>>63294014
Then I'll say that Rosemi would be a better fit due to her better singing and dancing capabilities. But yeah pointless to think about what-ifs

>>63295968
>singing and dancing
hahaha
lol
lmao
No bro, stop begging or making up imaginary scenarios. Even Ame and Fauna sing and dance better than Rosemi. She doesn't have a single quality that would get her in Hololive, rosecuck
Nijisanji is as good as it'll ever get for her.

>>63296555
Horrible argument anon, the better argument would be that hololive doesn't fuckin care about singing or dancing shit. They hire dancers to dance for them and tuners to fix the singing. What is most important now is streaming consistency which biboo provides.

>>63295847
This, i recommend Reina Sun

>>63296952
Or about having a personality, which Rosemi doesn't have.

>>63293739
Marking this as false, in case some idiot tries to link to it from the archives.

I believe it was the influx of women fans who ruined Nijisanji generals on /vt/. There is no longer a place to discuss the talents because of this. I believe a lot of people stopped watching when they couldn't participate in a community.

>>63298761
I followed both iterations of /rose/ and it seems true enough. What is he wrong about specifically?

>>63299528
Been wondering, what exactly happened to /rose/ anyways?

>>63298833
Not entirely true. Containment threads are made for this exact reason anon. This is why nenmen exists and why there is a thread solely for lazulight, not forgetting the most recently made /vivi/

>>63299528
It does sound mostly correct it's just heavily biased, like implying that all of Rosemi's critics were her original fans and her supporters were newfags, or blaming rosebuds for biting bait too much (I've never seen a general where people don't bite bait too much).
I gave the original summary and personally the entire thing seemed a bit suspicious to me around April-May, particularly the catalog spam.

>>63299910
Like that anon said, I think shitpositing killed both threads. For the first /rose/ that is pretty much what happened.
For the second /rose/ it started out as something a pomudachi made, then some others took over, shitposting enmasse again, and slowly the thread just had like 8 dudes necrobumping and it died.
I think a big part was that /rose/ 1 focused more on Rosemi and stream shit, and /rose/ 2 was more about like, ritual posts, defiance towards shitposters and very little about actually discussing Rosemi and her content beyond calling her cute.
I sometimes catch Rosemi but don't call myself a Rosebud anymore, but a nasty habit some of the more vocal/schizo buds had was shitting on other chuubas, Nijis included, to prop up Rosemi, and this alienated other fanbases from showing sympathy to Rosebuds.

>>63235621
wth is this real or schizos?

>>63300295
How new?

>>63300308
i only pay attention to holo, but i’ve been getting into niji

>>63300464
I see. You can find the discussions about it in the archives. Be warned, she was underage at the time she took those photos.

>>63300514
ah ill avoid then
ty anon

>>63300063
Her critics in the first /rose/ were definitely following her around longer than the people that made the second split. By the time of the second split it was just shitposting. Sure, people shitposted in the first one too, but it didn't take over the threads completely until before /rose/ was abandoned. But sure, not all of her older fans minded her direction, but a lot did, probably the ones expected more out of her given how much she hyped up quitting her job.
I would say April-May were her worst months as a chuuba, just doing collabs and not much else.
And dude wdym you have never seen generals not bite bait? /Lazu/ doesn't. Mori ones went through hell and back. The Kronii one is a bit better. None of the Advent ones do.
But /rose/ bit bait like it was the NijiEN or HoloEN general. It was like a less popular /GGG/

>>63233475
yeah lets go back to being completely irrelevant right

>>63233475
There you go Hololite squad collab soon (Pomu, Selen, Vivi, +Millie)

>>63235459
only the first two of those contradict each other.

Let's be honest, out of those 6
How has Finana fallen off so astronomically bad when compared to the other 5?
You can look at the other communities and still see familiar faces, but not for the ryuguards

>>63301196
I don't buy it. Why would the clique hate Selen of all fucking people lol
If anything it makes more sense for Selen to hate the clique because prior to it she was the most popular NijiEN in terms of numbers and among the members themselves.
After it the NijiEN family/clique became more popular among the actual members.
And even then that's a fucking stretch.

>>63300615
I admit I don't read /lazu/ except occasionally for events.
For the Mori thread, I wonder if we're reading the same one. People bite bait all the time and other anons bitch about it. It's not that crazy anymore but it was pretty bad for a long time, around the time of Mori's mom's post it was as chaotic as threads that entered legit death spirals like /rose/ or /rumina/, although it did bounce back quickly. And honestly I think at least part of the reason it's improved is because there's just a lot less heat on Mori, rather than anons finally wising up.
That last point is particularly important: there's a very fine distinction between the problem being than anons bite bait too much and threads being targeted. "Don't feed the trolls" is often good advice but it's not the whole story.

>>63287457
It's more that I don't think they would have been interested in vtubing at this point if it wasn't Hololive. It's not like they have some deep-seated hatred for Niji, I just think they weren't interested in vtubing again in almost every senario and weren't actively applying to anything else. The Mangagamer thing happened because they alrrady did a lot of work with them in the past, applied to Hololive and didn't get in, and pitched it to Mangagamer. I'm happy I got them back though because I liked watching them on occasion before.

>>63301052
>Hololite squad
To be fair, judging by how whorish holo girls became, this hololite is more holo than actual holoEN

>>63301452
I mean, it's not exactly a mystery. That old Finana copypasta explains it pretty well.

>>63301699
How are Pomu and Millie any less whorish than anyone in Holo EN?

>>63301517
I don't use Mori's thread all the time but the deadbeats had to learn the hard way not to get baited by everything. There is less heat on Mori, yes, but some people still despise her for being herself and some of the stuff she said/did.
>Last point
I agree. And what I got from that summary was
>rosebuds bite bait
>shitposters notice
>thus /rose/ starts attracting a lot of shitposters
You used /rose/ so you know how some buds were so defensive stuff like
>Lovelock? More like Lovescock because she just blew me lmao
got actual angry responses.

>>63301717
Old copypasta?
can I get a qr?

>>63303540
>>29000934

>>63303540
"Ever since Finana started I stood by her for all her high and lows.
When people were making fun of her for the fart tweet, I gave her a chance
When she only streamed for two hours, I stood by her hoping she will improve
When she gave her romantic advice I made fun of her but I kept watching her
When she stopped interacting with her fans on twitter I still stood by her
When she went two months ignoring her chat after the privated zatsudan I stood by her
When she kept focusing more on gacha I still stood by her
When she cried during a honkai stream from backseaters I still stayed
When she admitted to using her superchat money to buy gifts to her friends I made excuses
When she overslept the minecraft EN opening I stayed there and gave her excuses
When she did the same again for the Yugioh collab I stayed
When she lied to everyone about her trip and invited Uki to an off collab I was annoyed but took her excuses
When she made Pomu’s life a living hell during the whole trip, I had hope she would have learned
When she cried about not being included in fan art I criticized her but again I stayed
When she broke several rules for joining a fan discord and using their voice chat, I warned them, but I stayed
When it was getting obvious she was doing something offstream with her fans I stayed
When she banned the word trap and Futa and went all preachy, I forgave her.
And now that she has made it obvious she created a secret friend group of her fans, while ditching long time members for a twitter group my faith in her is losing. She had possibly less than 60 members watching her yesterday. So I ask, why shouldn’t I switch to a better oshi? how more should I wait for her to get better, when will she get better?"

Bottom line: Stop worrying about NijiEN, stop thinking about them, stop posting about them. It's too late to effect the type of change you desire.
Leave these girls behind and embrace small corpo girls. And I don't mean the memers in Kawaii and Phase. These days there are plenty of small corpo girls out there with comfy small communities and good gen/wave synergy that you can get into.
Just forget about NijiEN and don't bother wasting any more of your limited lifetime on them.

>>63304329
When this was written was the fact she leaked her Niji application video known? Is that the "fan discord" mentioned?

>>63304603
Sadly, I’ll never be able to replace Selen. Her perfect laugh, her tomboy gamer attitude, her menhera spirals into depression whenever she lost. I’ve never seen ANYONE from ANY corpo like her, not even remotely. After what happened to Okayu, I just think tomboys chuubas are completely dead nowadays, and there’s no hope of finding any new ones.

>>63304674
Nope this was before that mess, and yes
That was when the valoguard problem reached a breaking point which caused her, her biggest fans

the anon who wrote this was her top donator and even worked to getting her Higher quality daki for her birthday.

Dude was so dedicated that he made the perfect preparations to get the available with her birthday merch. And now look at this year, she is just a shadow of the feesh people used to love

>>63305417
I never got Finana's appeal. Cute voice and coomer appeal even if it is apparent she is a virgin trying to act like she knows how to be sexy, but her attitude at times made me keep her at arm's length.
Her best trait has been not saying Luca is an innocent little brother like most EN women did.

>>63301814
I agree that people bit incredibly stupid bait and this was annoying but that's a minor problem.
I don't actually agree with the theory of shitposter snowballs, that's not even the problem with biting bait. Even if the number of threadshitters remains constant, there's so much back and forth with them (where everyone looks like a fool) that it ends up driving away the people that are there just to discuss streams, or really anything positive.
The flipside of this is that you can't actually ignore every negative comment, especially if the people are relatively articulate, you have to push back or you lose control of the thread. Easier said than done but it really is necessary, actually exercising saint-like impulse control doesn't work.
Anyway, none of this is what did /rose/ in. It was because, as you and the other anon already pointed out, a significant portion of the regulars came to agree or at least sympathize with the antis. Whether they bit bait or not is basically irrelevant to the final result, actually exercising total restraint would have just meant a quick and painless death rather than a long and angry one.

>>63244144
>hate straights
>love sucking cock
i feel one of these beliefs must necessarily be more authentic than the other

>>63233475
All of them gaslight Finana

Once again marking the /rose/ discussion as false and a desperate attempt at history revising. Better luck next time.