/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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All chuubas should learn to walk before they dance.

Chicken leech will obviously be the very first one to collab with her anyway. She's probably got one lined up in her diary right now for a month from now.

>>6315205
God I hate kiara so much.

>>6315136
Makes sense to me, allows the new people time to get their feet under themselves before they begin collabing with others. Don’t know why people hate it so much

She's alone. Not sure how that makes sense. Unless those other vsingers are coming out soon after her.

>>6315203
I think it's fucking retarded for someone who's literally debuting completely alone. 2 weeks, maybe, but a month? I don't think any Holo to date has had to be completely isolated for that long.

Hasn't this already been known since EN's debut last year?

But yeah, good to know it remained the same. We wouldn't want a western leeche ruining IRyS audience retention.

>>6315205
>KIARA
KIARA
>KIARA
KIARA
>KIARA

>>6315342
The difference here is everyone else could collab within their generation pretty much immediately after all their debuts were done, and IRyS is basically getting shoved into solitary confinement for a month

>>6315319
>I don't think any Holo to date has had to be completely isolated for that long.
Sora...

>>6315136
She can just do songwriting, Karaoke, and singing/rhythm game streams for a month.

>>6315319
There's nothing sad about it. It's part of maturity.

One month is very short. She's not a baby to be worried about lmao

what's wrong with it? it's a month of her getting used to being a vtuber with a large audience

>>6315439
>WeSing
>We

>>6315431
lol they're introducing gen2 the week after it'll be fine

>>6315432
That's a completely different animal and took place before Hololive even really took the shape it has now

>>6315136
Get this girl a chibi 3d. Get her to dance on stream

>>6315495
She’ll use the royal we

Collab bans in Hololive are supposed to promote group unity right? Not sure how this helps a girl on her own, they should just take the Niji approach here and let her collab right away

>>6315136
Will she even stream playing video games or will she just stream music all the time?

>>6315648
Not just unity, it's also to get the girls to become accustomed to streaming to an audience in general

>>6315718
Guess we'll need to wait 'till debut to find out.
My oshii is mostly a singer, but does some sporadic game streams.

>>6315648
Focus thy fanbase, and less attention to your seniors.

After all, they debuted for their audience; introduce who they are and what they can do, not so they could immediately collab.

>>6315648
It's also so they can build their own fanbase
Though this is a situation in which she really needs someone she could collab with to refine herself more, AZKi would be a good choice since their fanbases are likely to have high overlap anyway

If Gen 2 gets announce relatively quickly (a week or two release after IRyS debut) then I think it'll be fine, it gives her some time to shine whilst not isolating her too much.

>>6315648
I agree with Cover here.

Collab ban gives a vtuber the chance to build their own identity and fanbase. It is the equivalent of having an origin story for a Marvel / DC character. They need to establish their own mythos and world, before we can have crossovers. You don't want to be known as just a "partner of Gura."

Note that this is only about official appearances on stream. In real life, they still talk to one another regularly, like Irys just did. Any technical or mental support could still be freely given, so it's not like they are left swimming by themselves. And it's just one month which will pass quickly.

>>6315648
They are also meant to let them establish their brand and develop their character

>>6315205
Based I was hoping she wouldn't graduate and Kiara would find her.

>>6316159
>You don't want to be known as just a "partner of Gura."
Ame...

>>6316239
PekoMoona...

>>6315910
Mori is your oshii?

>>6316159
>a chance to recycle a draft post from a thread that got archived before I had the chance to submit it
Fuck yea- I mean listen here anon. Ame had her chance. She blew it. Ame is Gura's friend. That's the only reason she got in. She's also more reactive than proactive, responding to things rather than taking the initiative and adding her own rrats to the content. Not bad by twitch standards. Also not lazy. Also not antisocial. Her lack of star power only stands out when she's streaming side by side with the greats.

It's the same problem Sora, Roboco, Ayame, Mel, Choco, Towa, Watame, Kanata and the IDs sans Moona (who's well liked for her wholesome autism) and Ollie (who's rabidly disliked for her normie tier public railing) have. They're not bad steamers. It's just that some holos are really good at being standout entertainers.

Gura and Korone mog the shit out of most holos. Coco broke out so much they kicked her out before she could destroy the company. Aqua is the beloved socially awkward onion girl. Pekora is everyone's favorite war criminal. Even above average talents like Flare and the entirety of 5th Gen still struggle to reach those heights. EN buff aside, Ame just doesn't have what it takes to be a true frontrunner like them without a talent or god tier personality. And since her only talent appears to be streaming, she either needs to work on her personality or start doing more esoteric streams related to what she's good at and interested in.

Maybe Ame should start doing tech reviews or talking about the technical aspects of streaming as a holo. If being the IT girl is her niche then there's no reason not to lean into that completely and style her content accordingly. And let's be honest, who wouldn't laugh when a gadget doesn't work, she fails at troubleshooting, and she finally just claims the thing sucks. I'm actually surprised nobody's thought of this yet. Seems like an obvious direction for her character, unless all she wants to do is phone it in and play vidya all day.

As for Irys, a month will only be what she makes of it. If she has what it takes then she'll do well. Otherwise we'll all pity and laugh at her for not living up to the brand that got her a 250k sub leg up. At this point, there's no excuse for not being able to come up with interesting, character defining content unless you haven't been paying attention to the streaming space for the past 10 years. If she turns out to be a bust then being someone else's sidekick is unironically the best she can hope for. Who do you think it'll be? Reine or Ina?

>>6317159
The tech part reads like part of a copypasta to me but I can't find it in the archive.

>>6315136
Is it really confirmed? Kiara's not exactly the most reliable source of information given how much of a blabbermouth she is.

>>6317878
Yeah, I can't tell if Kiara knew or if she just assumed it would be the same. Guess we'll find out soon enough.

>>6315524
If she hasn't interacted with them then it's arguably better for her to not collab with them, EN2 is right now in Discord getting to know each other, playing games and all that shit, on the other hand, even without interacting until 3 days ago with Myth, IRyS already kinda knows them just because there's 10 months of Myth material, so collabs with Myth would be smoother than EN2 collabs

>>6317878
I watch her streams, and most of her "not supposed to say this but" comes true.

>>6317743
It's in the archive now, friend. But I'm being serious. What else does she have that other chubas don't?

>>6317980
2 days. Ready your expectations and buckle up for the drop.

>>6318053
It'll be reasonable to expect EN 2 next month

>>6318102
Not 2 days, 23 hours till she debuts.
>>6317878
Most of what Kiara tells us comes true. She's the only one who discusses what happens behind the scenes, without her everyone would still be largely blind as to how the company operates.
Seeing as she has never been reprimanded for it, Cover doesn't necessarily care it's just that the other talents don't want to talk about it.

>>6317159
Amelia is by far the best when she streams by herself and tries out new things. Her VR streams, outfit reveal etc. are innovative.

In collabs, she is okay but just not willing to pull crazy stunts to grab attention from other people, like shooting Rushia in the face. She only pales in the company of crazies. The straight man, so to speak. But when she is among friends, she is a great conversationalist and understands internet culture better than most, so she's a great partner for people like Coco.

I still look forward to the next TTRPG stream where she can show her collab chops with people she's already comfortable with.

>>6317980
>>6318078
Well, it doesn't matter either way. I only really expect IRyS to do utawakus and zatsudans primarily with the occasional game stream like most every other VSinger.

>>6315205
Fuck Kiara, taking the first collab slot that Gura or Mori, the two best singers in EN, definitely want, they're probably the one talking to her the most on duscord right now, no doubt about it.

>>6315136
pfft, its only one month collab ban.

stop hyping IRyS, she's just a holoID level

>>6315205
Why do people hate Kiara? She is the weakest member of EN but IDK why people hate her.

>>6318102
I always viewed her as the FPS multiplayer game chuuba, not my cup of tea (no pun intended), especially since she was getting sniped by chat when I tried to watch.

>>6315432
I actually don't think it was even that long, didn't roboco come on right after her?

>>6318398
Hating Kiara is just a meme.

>>6318449
Sora: YouTube: 2017/09/07
Roboco: YouTube: 2018/03/04

Why do you think all the Holos have huge respect for Sora

>>6318398
How many social interaction have you had in real life?

If you have experience, I suggest to rewatch Kiara's birthday stream call-ins, you can start from the moment Pekora called. And imagine if you were Pekora talking to birb.

>>6318395
but I need to know if the model looks as redjuice as the promo art

>>6318481
Because she's pretty much Shirou but with dream of idols?

>>6315319
Anon.. if she cant even entertain (you) and the rest of holofags for a month alone without collab buff than she should just graduate. I dont want non of that lesser talent in my holo

>>6318506
>Pekora X Kiara is Kiara leeching off Pekora and whatever the fuck
Oh look, it's this thread again.
Their friends / coworkers anonchama, so you can take your rrat and stick it.

>>6315432
That’s why she’s the goddess, anon.

And it's a good thing, or would you rather have a hundred shit-tier antisocial nobodies like Nijisanji? Cover learned its lesson on that after second gen.

>>6318398
I used to hate her because of how overbearing she was and how hard she was forcing the Mori pairing.
She's calmed down a lot lately though to the point where she's bearable. That or Olli has managed to cause me to see her in a new light.

>>6318661
And EN has 4 antisocials.
It'd be pretty funny if Gen 2 had 4-5 extroverts and completely mog Gen 1.

>>6315136
Thinking Irys is going to stream more than once a month...lol!

>>6318506
>How many social interaction have you had in real life?
I was married but my wife died 2 years ago, after 4 years of marriage, when I was 29, no kids. I enjoy Vtubers a little bit because my wife enjoyed anime and classic games. I can't fault anyone for liking them. Still a little to raw to date again, but I catch a few steams now and then.

>>6318313
>they're probably the one talking to her the most on duscord right now, no doubt about it.
Gura will be talking to her the least, Anon. She ghosts everyone.

>>6318717
They're not antisocial, they're cliquey. But that's nothing new among the generations.

>>6318757
I’ll still watch.

>>6318297
This. I dont want her to retardedly push herself like calli to play the games she dont want to play. Just a comfy zatsudan and utawakus will be enough.
And please i swear to god no apex! I've seen enough apex on my fav vsingers.

>>6318757
Where do you retards come from, no one types like that on an older board.

>>6318757
She's going to have to. The idea might be like AZKi but IRyS doesn't have her clout. She can't do a bunch of music organizing shit behind the scenes like AZKi does and stay relevant.

>>6318606
Nah siro was quite a comedian herself. Sora is just a classic pure (not as in seiso) idol with soul. God i missed her 3D streams. Doing live2D was really a huge debuff for her

>>6315136
she has to build her own audience first

>>6318905
One of the holos stated that cause of covid they have to book the studio 3 weeks in advance now.
Japan keeps fucking up covid and just went into lockdown again.

>>6318905
>God i missed her 3D streams. Doing live2D was really a huge debuff for her
At last, a true patrician view.

>>6318861
True. she'll probably do a good amount of stream at first to built her fanbase and create a solid one or she should. Going azki route or just vsinger in general (putting out covers and strean once a month) would be dumb since she is not in JP hence less offstream activities that can shill her or make her relevant

>>6318636
I don't know if anon was referring to it as leeching, its likely he just felt their interactions was cringe.
"Imagine having a awkward social interaction" type thing.

>>6318398
>OP about IRyS
>thread devolves into discussing Kiara again
She rules the board

>>6319096
She could live in Japan for all we know.
The twitter restrictions actually made it so we have no idea the type of person she is before debut.
All of NijiEN were found out right away because of their graduation timings and twitter posts.

>>6318636
Call out someone who asked, not ones that answers. Logic.

>>6318765
Uh... I was giving context for the next line.

>>6318430
>sniped by chat
You mean in apex? Yeah she's not great (I say she could probably hit gold max without autistically grinding or getting carried), but she refuses to do the reps necessary to at least get out of bronze/silvers where all the shitters and trolls are.

>>6319203
We do know. She's a leaf.

>>6318859
It's summer

>>6318271
If Kiara was watchable she'd be absolutely based.

>>6318291
Tldr she's too stiff in collabs and only does variations of what other people are doing. That's kinda my point.

>>6318430
Stream sniping is why FPS games make for bad content unless you have a 20 minute delay. Being the GPS chuba and not having a long delay is moronic. Skilled players can still tell her position from landmarks alone, even with the map covered.

>>6318398
Awful fake voice like Risu. Actively debuffs herself. People are sick of her shit.

>>6318765
Grats on dodging a bullet.

>>6319203
It's probably Namirin. Coincidental repeating sign plus the notoriety of renai circulation equals an attempted gura shtick that got ultra cucked by twitter's anti-botting algorithm.

>>6318398
I once saw someone else put it like this and it clicked for me:
Think of every preconceived notion the autists of this site have on what a woman should and shouldn't be/do. Now realize how many of them apply to Kiara. She is the literal antithesis of your average 4chan ass burger.

>>6318859
Board with the most reddit tourists.

>>6318765
let’s go, anon..

>>6315136
You can't just let any Holo member ask for a Apex Legends collab with Avril Lavinge on day 1.

>>6315431
Good that much more salt on /vt/ when she's shown to be competent on her own and doesn't need a crutch like Kiara and Mori

>>6319440
Kek

>>6319312
>It's probably Namirin
I really hope it's not namirin. Also, I'm hoping for a hag.

>>6319345
Nah, you're falling into the martyrdom complex delusions. Like the Chinese people who think other countries hate them for being successful. You don't have to agree with 4chan schizos, but cooking up delusions is sadder.

>>6319669
But then they'd have to internalize criticism and grow as people. Zoomers are allergic to personal growth.

>>6318398
Her fans on /vt/ seem to all be 12 year olds with low testosterone. It's like watching consolefag children argue over which console has the biggest dick instead of actually fucking playing games on the damn things.
I tried actually watching her streams. Her nasally fucking chicken voice annoys me, so I don't watch her. Same thing with Pekora. If either of them used their actual voices I'd probably watch, they both play games I like. doog is obviously putting a voice on too but at least it's cute.
rrat: there are no actual KFP or antis on this board. Just bored Discordniggers stirring up shit.
>>6318765
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO you doin alright bro?

>>6319573
HAG LOVE

The "collab ban is there so they can build their own individual audiences" narratives is stupid, en1 had collabs with each other by the end of week one.

Cover is just being stupid, if irys has a collab ban for anything longer than a week.

>>6319751
I am fine. Life insurance is a blessing, and I am going to grad school on a scholarship next year, fully paid. So I think in an environment like that I can start dating again. I might have to cut back on vtubers but I am a filthy casual anyway.

>>6319493
I don't think they really crutched as much as you think. Kiara's view numbers are weirdly consistent with what they were in her first few videos when the gen started, and when the gen started interacting, and then stopped interacting. Almost like a cult.

>>6319751
>thread isn't about Kiara
>bring up Kiara anyway
She's living in your head rent free

>>6317159
you wasted so many pixels writing this bullshit
try actually watching Ame first before you write a fanfiction about her

>>6315205
ironically this. Leech will do anything to collab with HoloHag.

Ok call me retarded but I really don't understand the point of this. Like, she's ONLY there to sing? Or is that just her strong suit? Why make an offshoot for 1 person?

>>6319824
In case you need more help with elementary reading comprehension, they were under collab ban, which is for growing a dedicated fanbase for EN gen 1. Even now you can find plenty of people who mostly just watch EN gen 1.

>>6319955
You’re not retarded. It’s a genuinely bad idea.

>>6319916
Amelia can’t sing, can’t dance, isn’t creative or intelligent. A real stinker.

>>6319859
Don't forget to do your reps actual ones, keep up with advisors and faculty, etc once you're in school. You'll make it brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrother.

>>6320175
>can’t dance, isn’t creative or intelligent
t. has literally never watched Ame stream

>>6315136
A vsinger is meant to be singing, not collabing like a vtuber dumbfuck

>>6320215
I won't forget to do my reps. I spent the last decade in the Army, PT has become a constant in my life.

>>6318859
I've typed like this for years. Long before Reddit even existed.

>>6319955
Virtual equivalent of real life music artists. There's a small market for it in Japan given the number of JP VSingers that exist. As for why Cover thought it would be a good idea to pioneer an EN VSinger scene, that's anyone's guess.

>>6320322
Cover doesn't think.

>>6320322
Could this be the same sentiment as how everyone thought HoloEN would not work in the west?

>>6320274
Not him but she was my oshi for awhile and they're right.
She's cute at first but you get bored of her quick. Her only schtick is the toxic gamer bit that got old real quick. And all of her creativity is stolen from Twitter artists. She's literally lifted every unique idea she's ever had from something someone made for her. See your webm for example, she literally just took someone's 3d model and half assedly set it up for VR play. The foot prop thing was taken from drawfags too.
She can't sing, she plays like one game, she isn't capable of producing viral moments. She's just destined for mediocrity.

>>6320322
Mori's songs topped the charts for weeks and Gura got over 100k for her first karaoke, go figure.

>>6320512
>muh viral moments
The epitome of a clipnigger incarnate

>>6320322
Utaite are already a thing on youtube, but they don't really have any sort of relevance. But if you type any semi-popular anison and "cover" into youtube you'll inevitably be flooded with the English equivalent of utaite. They do make decent numbers for the most part.

Cover wants to tap into that and get it established properly.

>>6318313
> Mori
> singer
WTF are you for real? EN bar is so low, even shitty rapper is second best singer?

>>6320322
smarr indie burack company. preazu undastand
if they haven't got shit lined up with a major label it's going to flop financially. and they don't. the US is not Japan. you can't be AZKi here.

hope avril chan

>>6317159
gura wishes she could interact with her audience the way ame does

>>6320560
I’ve had Amelia on in the background for hours when doing more interesting things. Your oshi is bad, bad, bad at everything. An absolute stinker.

>>6320322
>small market
Anon.. Hatsune Miku, the predecessor of all Virtual being especially Vsingers, is like one of the biggest genre in nipland. They might not be as massive as Miku is rn but they sure will and are mainstream atm. And it's not like they sing some weird sound genre, they literally just normal singer with kino advanced fits.

>>6315136
this isn't new you fags.

>>6316159
Absolutely. Collab beggars are fucking twisted sons of bitches. Heaven forbid we get to know Irys a bit before she becomes a plaything for some other streamer's fanbase.

>>6320783
>>6320817
It's the summer festival all over again. Get a collab scheduled, you two.

>>6321097
Miku was first on the scene and best dressed. She's THE iconic virtual singer.

>>6321148
It depends on if she's even worth getting to know.

>>6320618
While I don't think an EN AZKi is a fundamentally terrible idea, they just better not get their(her) hopes up. If she's genuinely the type of person that's willing to grind it out and not have delusions of headlining the halftime show or some shit

>>6321097
Not talking about Hatsune Miku. VTuber-based VSingers, so from YuNi (as the self-proclaimed first VSinger) onwards.

>>6320491
The big fear of holo EN was they would be "I can no longer keep silent about/ need to use my platform to address..." twitch thots that wouldn't be able to get out of their own way. The question here is; is there even a market for english azki?

>>6321768
Was there even a market for japanese azki?

>>6321768
It will V Shojo that will do that first.

>>6321834
>>6321647
>>6320618

I see people parroting Azki a lot, but the comparison is iffy.
Azki can sing okay, but her breath is short, and no one would call her ground-breaking. That, combined with the lack of streaming (prior to her rebirth), and ugly former design (though some would swear by how unique it is), meant she was never gonna be ground-breaking, and it showed. She was hired back when Cover was small as well. Perhaps perfectly suitable for them then, but not now.

If Irys is merely comparable to Azki, Cover is shooting themselves in the face.

>>6322381
Yeah, if IRyS isn't in the same bracket as the upper echelon of the JP VSingers, something's definitely amiss.

>>6321661
>>6321476
Im just pointing out that Vsinger is by no mean a small market like that anon say.

>>6322381
Anon.. that's not what people mean when they say she is EN equivalent of Azki. They are not speaking talent wise but activity wise since many still unfamiliar with Vsinger in this board.
And anon, Azki is among the successfull Vsingers. Her albums are sold well and got good number and her concerts fully booked ez. If that's not success for you idk what is.

>>6319419
This is the board where redditors go to give hot-takes, or write their most uncensored opinions without worrying about the optics of what they write since no downvotes exist here. There are also some from the discords here to post things they can't in their homecord due to moderation polices.

>>6315203
Korone's debut stream was a gamers' collab.

>>6320276
AZKi collabs with Sora constantly.

>>6321647
Grinding it out means nothing in the US. You need radio airtime/Spotify plays and digital sales on Amazon/iTunes. Or fucking TikTok fame or however zoomer music goes viral. The US is not Japan.
>>6322381
>the comparison is iffy.
Your comparison is not my comparison. AZKi is actually pretty successful as far as "VSingers" go if you're not just looking at her YouTube metrics.
>>6322840
>Azki is among the successfull Vsingers. Her albums are sold well and got good number and her concerts fully booked ez. If that's not success for you idk what is.
NTA, but that's exactly what I meant - and why I mentioned having some kind of proper promotion with a record label or something.
Look at some of the more popular and/or successful vocaloid artists like Mitchie M. First album: indie. Second album? Warner Music Japan.

>>6322946
That's been the entire point of 4chan the whole time.

>>6322967
And we all know how that turned out.

>>6323362

Good. Reddit is better than 4chan

>>6323361
The realistic top end for an EN Vsinger isn't making the Top 40, it's the millions-of-subs YouTube cover artist who probably live comfortably but never crack the music industry and never become a household name. Cover may want more but it's not like the singer herself can't make a career even if they fall short of billboard dreams. And yes, grinding it out would be relevant to a career shilling your music to a few million youtube subs. Any bigger, well, it'll take a different approach as you said.
Of course for every millions-of-subs channel there's a thousand more who never get off the ground, but that's where a 250k sub debut helps out.

>>6315136
>channel is shadowbanned

Kek numberfags are going to be all over those low debut numbers

>kiaraschizos
>ameschizos
>numberschizos
nice irys thread

>>6318765
Jesus. Vtuber fans over 30

>>6326184
do you know what that even means?

>>6327030
Wasn't there that one guy who posted a picture of him watching Kiara with his child? It's not that odd.

>>6322840
I'm going to need some hard numbers for this, both in terms of album sales as well as arena sizes.

>>6321647
The reality is, either Irys engages her audiences often enough, or she prays she's an Ayame Houndini who can get away with 20k views despite streaming once per month. The Hololive ecosystem, which is going to be where her base draws from, will switch off with a one/month or even one/week engagement rate barring very unique situations.

>>6319440
Imagine an Avril Lavigne/Moona collab. I don't think the board would survive.

>>6321768
This is still the number one thing that could utterly tank EN

>debut tomorrow
>can't generate any hype because twitter is retarded.
Fucking sucks man.

>>6315136
>he didn't know this
>this late in the game, he didn't know this
spot the newfag.

>>6315136
i wish her all the luck and a wonderful carrer
but
i want to her to fail so hard just to see all the reddit drama, and hololive fans mad

>>6315319
She should learn to be interesting and entertaining on her own first. Month collab ban is absolutely necessary.
It's not about her being loneny or something, she can talk with other EN girls anytime.

>>6321768
Almost for sure cover will axe that dumb bitch she second they do that

>>6322192
Reps now

>>6318766
>>6320585
Fucking hell I couldn't have made it more obvious
> Mori or Gura
> talking to fucking anyone the most on their discord

>>6321834
>>6321768
There's always market for anything especially if you are a popular entertainer

>>6318398
she cute and they hate it.

how long until the debut?

>>6328445
So she can't even reply to anyone or make new posts?

>>6318398
The fox who longed for grapes, beholds with pain
The tempting clusters were too high to gain;
Grieved in his heart he forced a careless smile,
And cried, ‘They’re sharp and hardly worth my while.’

>>6315205
worst thing is she ain't paying rent

>>6323535
I mean the image genuinely. Thanks for clearing it up.

>>6327030
>tfw 47 and enjoying chuubas

>>6315205
This is so true lol

Then you wonder why is people disgusted with kiara

>>6319493
>doesn't need a crutch like Kiara and Mori
How did Mori need a crutch? She grew on her own just fine.

>>6330020
Oh, I know answer to this one!
It's because they are retarded kids that bought into false rrats like Kiara getting raped and suicidal and think she will destroy hololive!
Likes seriously, most of them still talk about orcshizo's rrats despite this thing existing
https://rentry.co/yue3t

>>6315136
Pretty much confirms that Gen2 will be out within a week or two

>>6318616
That problem with that is she's debuting by herself, while every other gen's ban was cross gen based but could still collab within the Gen who could
A. Work out the Nerves
B. Help develop the character
C. Provide some added variety with collab games

Why the fuck didn't she give her impressions of Irys?
>abloobloo MUH MANAGEMENT BONK
Fucking bootlicker

>>6331163
Why should she? Kiara talked enough about her. I doubt Gura had a different impression.

>>6331206
How would you know retard

>>6331216
Know what? My opinion or assumption? I know it because I made it, in my head. Based on what Kiara said, what Gura said and what kind of person Gura is(comes off as).

Who confirmed the collab ban? Kiara?

>>6331266
>literally admits to headcanon
Done.

>>6331161
>but could still collab within the Gen
there is usualy a few weeks of collab ban between the gen as well. they debute, do a get together to talk about it and then have a few weeks to establish themselfs before collabing with their genmates again followed by hololive general collabs

>>6331161
Holo is bigger than it ever being anon, the new talent should be able to handle those basic ABC themselves. I want her to show why she is special among the thousand fallen talent she defeat

>>6327030
there's no age limit on media entertainment and turning 5* next month

>>6331331
You fucking moron, I didn't say "I know for a fact Gura had a different impression", I said "I doubt", not even "think", "doubt". Fuck you.
Kiara said Irys is cute and shy, Gura didn't jump in to disagree. Until proven otherwise, she probably thinks Irys is cute and shy too.
You DID watch that stream, right? Right?

>>6331421
BOOTLICKERra literally fucking admitted she believed she wasn't allowed to talk about her. She LITERALLY said this is why she stayed silent. So no, her "not disagreeing" on the matter can NOT be interpreted as "DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRHURRRRR SHE AGREE WITH CHICKEN HURRR" you cro-magnon imbecile. Take your fanfiction to /lit/.

>>6331465
>she believed
OH SO SHE WASN'T 100% SURE BUT YOU'RE TAKING THIS AS GOSPEL YOU COCKGUZZLING NIGGER

>>6331589
I never claimed Gura wasn't allowed to say anything you actual mentally retarded ape. I KNOW she was allowed to talk about it. Which is why I criticized the little bootlicker for bootlicking so hard and being a scared pussy despite Kiara explaining why it was okay to talk about it. You little fucking brainlet BITCH.
Learn to FUCKING follow arguments you little slut.

It makes sense. They dont want other members to deal with her incase it's another Aloe or Chris scenario.

>>6331683
>I KNOW she was allowed to talk about it.
Insider/Managerchama what are you doing here?!

>>6315205
I really hope she is the first to collab with her, just to see you retards seethe again.

>>6315205
Kiara's literally the only hololive EN member that isn't socially retarded in collabs.

I don't watch ina shut the fuck up

>>6318338
who

>>6332174
Kiara is the most socially retarded out of the whole hololive population, kill yourself

>>6332276
>literally hardcarried holoen collab for 6 months and crippled her back carrying mori's dead weight ass in collabs
>socially retarded

>>6318398
>>6318467
im a full blown anti purely because pink cat collab. fucking ungrateful bitch

>>6332527
pls explain?

>>6315205
I now desperately need her to be the first one to collab just to watch the SEETHING again, there hasn't been any quality Kiara seething in a while. I need more laughs.

>>6315205
LEECH LEECH LEECH

Good. This new Zhang bug IRYSchama should be put in her place. The bitch barely streams and she already has Saviourfagging niggers on her back. Kiara should assert diminance as usual. Kiara's Arch Nemesis.
>>6315379
>>6316208
>>6318313
>>6319944
>>6329921

>>6315205
URGE TO BACKSEAT HAS REACHED ITS LIMITS. oh my God am I going to backseat this bug bitch so HARD.