/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>creativity freedom

>>63225247
the creative freedom was being a fleshstreamer so idk i think its a positive

>>63226083
>numberchimp makes up some shit she never said
>gets mad at it

eop schizoism

Coco was never as bad as Marine.

>have talent freedom
>use it to look at unfunny reddit/facebook memes and react to youtube videos

>>63226148
what the fuck are you talking about, am I supposed to be the numberchimp here?

>>63225247
Coco but better

>>63226213
yes?
the whole "creative freedom" thing originates from there

>>63226237
But she talked about it a lot before graduating so I don't know why you think it's made up. There are dozens of clips of her talking about managment being bitchy about her projects and all that. Or if you're not lazy you can check the VODs. She might not have directly said the words "creative freedom", but that is what was implied heavily.

In my eyes, while Coco is assertive and headstrong as she is (and that’s why people in 4chan disliked her), Marine is actually an incarnation of (closet) introvert and pushover. Both of them have a little of menhera tendencies, not as much as it feels intrusive or annoying, though.

>>63225247
No that's coco with a proven record of rape

>>63225247
No comparison.
Who wouldn't want Marine and Coco sharing your dick and balls, rim-job even. Another thread of madness

>>63226367
she just wanted to be treated the same as every other member

>>63225247
Coco but with viewfarms.

Coco but way more fuckable

Ever since Coco left Marine has been carrying the sex all on her own.

>Comparing shit coomer chuba to Marine
Fucking kys

>>63226624
Calm down Marineschizo

>>63225247
>creativity freedom is being an e-thot
Thank God hololive is so against muh talent freedom, I never seen this mythical talent freedom being used for anything other than vulgarity

>>63226367
she only complained about management blocking her from doing things that other holos could do or basic common sense things like having chat mods. she never said nor implied she wanted complete freedom. the esl thread made that up.

>>63225247
https://youtu.be/HzZpVzQC1Q8?si=oFxTPlNrV-1FgCS0
One million views now in less than a day, keep seething Marineschizo

shinkiro flopped

>>63225247
Nerissa but Japanese.
Which is fine by me as I love both.

>>63228218
According to who? You? Lol

>>63226529
That New Years 2020 when Coco was not allowed to join the rest of her coworkers in the big unity stream and resorted to doing a solo stream with Tasunoko so she wouldn't be as miserable was the moment I lost alot of respect for Hololive and Cover. They may have 'sided' with Coco against China but they fucked her over as well in the end.

>without creativity freedom
The creative freedom in question.

>>63228640
I wonder how many ojiisan cock this whore had to suck to have that role in the Yakuza games

>>63228640

>>63226507
You'd just be there to be cucked by Coco having her way with senchou while you're unable to do jackshit to play along.

>>63229235
Thank God that whore is not longer in Hololive sexually harassing Marine

>>63228616
She was invited, just later than some other members (and she wasn't the only one either, Choco and Mel were, too). She could've gone but she decided not to - that was up to her

>>63225247
Coco but hot

>>63229324
You can't sexually harass the willing

>>63228258
Marine doesn't try to groom Holo members' anti(s), though

>>63229342
stop lying helmir

she is really stuck in that corpo with no future plans and being 30+ that's sucks. She can be a seiyuu after all this vtuber craze slow down i guess but the boat already sailed.

>>63225247
She will never reach the heights kson has reached.

>>63229243
>senchou
I don’t know what that is.

But I think you’re missing the point.

>>63225247
She could stand to be more Choco If you asked me.

>>63228821
less than the ones your mother sucks to pay for your internet connection.

>>63226148
It's fucking hilarious that her most watched vlips on twitch are nothing but feet, ass and cleavage.
Same with the most rewatched parts of her YouTube vods. Her fleshstreams just het way more views. Just accept that your fanbase is nothing but people jacking it while watching her.

>>63228418
>Plateaued at 2.3 mil views in 2 weeks
>Less than any of Marine's recent covers
>Not even close to Marine's solo orisongs

>>63229235
Thanks God that whore left
Hololive gotten stronger
Thank you china made hololive better by wanting to destroy
Kek

>>63232235
who the fuck watches or cares about twitch clips?
you chimps obsess over the weirdest things

>>63232896
>>63229324
You are trying too hard nijizhang

>>63225247
You don't watch either of them. Stop baiting

>>63231629
*weights

>>63231975
how new are you?

>>63236114
This idiot response never fixes the problem, zoomie boy.
Tell them what the word senchou means, fix it to be a name "Senchou" and tell them who it is, or fuck off.

>>63225247
>holo vs holo
nijiseetheeee

>>63237275
Senchou means captain "literally ship chief" and that's how people are refering to Marine

>>63231975
>i don't know what that is.
anon you are peak retard, go back to twitter tranny.

>>63228640
>>63229235
>>63229321
Real talk, Coco really was a bad influence on the girls. Not saying that some of the other girls aren't whores but at least they don't turn others into whores. That was basically what Coco did. She tried to spread Western culture in the company.

>>63231581
She's should graduate into marriage with me

>>63231581
She should graduate into marriage with me

>>63225247
Coco has creative freedom now and she sucks ass just like she did before.
She's a CIA whore and you are her bootlicking dog just like she is to the west.

>>63241622
is the social credit worth it?

>>63240675
>>63241622

>>63225247

Don't make me tap the sign.jpeg

>>63225247
Imagine the day feminists discover vtubing, there's thousands of chuubas on the market yet the absolute top are the ones who pander to straight men

>>63225247
Marine has no creativity, so she doesn't need creative freedom.

>>63240675
Oh no western culture, how horrific, what a travesty
Penny for your thoughts on the JP girls fangirling over the Marvel movies?

>>63225247
>western whore
vs
>closet japanese otaku pervert

not even in the same fucking universe. they're nothing alike

>>63240675
this

>>63243621
>Marine
>otaku
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>63243688
Yes, she is. Are you retarded?

>>63243729
She is a fake otaku.
She has been exposed on many an occasion.
Marine is/was the stereotypical rich popular girl her entire life. If you think she is an actual otaku you are delusional, she is just fairly good at pretending to be one.

>>63238629
anon... you shouldnt spoon feed retards

>>63243621
>>63243688
She is a horny riajuu with some dabblings of interest in otaku culture. But if you think she is a fullblown otaku than you are a complete moron.

maririn senchou daisuki

>>63225247
Nah, not even close. Coco was lame. Marine is cute and wholesome

>>63229324
>>63232896
>>63240675
also these

>>63244049
>>63244615
okay marine schizo, time to take your pills

>>63240675
True
>>63245242
and based

>>63243688
Yes, even Mito kneel to Marine.
https://youtu.be/LQ0xluR-po8

>>63225247
>Made pedobait MVs
>No creative freedom
Math is not mathing there

>>63229342
she was invited after she complained on twitter and started her stream lol

>>63240675
This. Fuck Whoreson and the tatsunocucks.

>>63225247
Not comparable
Marine is pure distilled corpo talent
Coco was pure homemade SOVL

>>63250438
I've grown disappointed how cookie cutter Marine has become these last couple years, she was willing to take so many risks back in the day but now its all what is safe with the crowd and brings in numbers. No daring attempts that may backfire, she is exactly what corporate boards want

>>63245299
There is no such thing as Marineschizo
Marinefags are the schizos.

>>63247918
Based

>>63244520
probably replying to himself based purely on the incorrectly used quotation marks

>>63251716
What kind of daring stuff did she make before compared to a cunny MV?

>>63262118
she had an offpako with shion

>>63263553
Only daring part about that was oversleeping for 5 hours. Also I'm pretty sure they had another one more recently.

>>63225247
>without

>>63225247
sex with marine

>>63262118
>Whole EN arc with Coco and Haachama
>Touhou streams and appearances with ZUN and BeatMario themselves a few times
>Wider variety of collab partners
>Greater willingness to play pranks before BL fridge incident
>Far more frequent drawing streams
>Avoids Matsuri like the plague after having a good rapport with her
It feels like she purposefully preplans everything nowadays to avoid any risk of drama, she's successful but the amount of sterilization leaves a bitter aftertaste. She is so obsessed with delivering a high quality product that she never 'draws outside the lines' now and delivers some unintentional kino moments.

>>63273483
The fuck are you even talking about? Literally none of that stuff is daring besides the BL book yab, which was in fact an incident, therefore not part of her usual content. The lack of kino moments is due to the fact that she doesn't stream much to begin with these days.

>>63273483 (me)
OK I thought of the analogy I was trying to come up with
She is like the start of Rocky 3 right now, always having picked fights that she is guaranteed to win. She never takes risks and faces a Clubber Lang.