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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://vt.poi.cat/ >https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/>https://www.hololive-songs.com/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber>https://www.nijiuta.com/Twitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
>>62613290Bae are mori are contraltos/altos yeagura is just a bad soprano, not a mezzo. her lower registers are none existentmumei is a contralto (where she's most comfortable) that can sing in mezzo-soprano/soprano keynerissa is a pure soprano, same with irys but irys has a more developed lower register
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *>52,335: Pekora (Hololive)>42,463: Chloe (Hololive)>23,692: Hololive (Hololive)>23,662: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>22,201: Gwelu (Nijisanji)>20,579: Pekora (Hololive)>17,837: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>17,474: Haachama (Hololive)>17,406: Abge (Nijisanji)>15,781: Patra (Indie)>15,633: NeruMero (Indie)>15,242: Suisei (Hololive)>14,704: AZKi (Hololive)>14,320: Lamy (Hololive)>13,680: Koyori (Hololive)>11,914: Kiara (Hololive)>10,644: Lauren (Nijisanji)>10,475: Korone (Hololive)>10,399: Aki (Hololive)>10,282: Calliope (Hololive)
>retard pretending to be a numberfag>>62613307
>>62612913dont know about the others but the aiba getting flak from nijifans isnt exactly new since she has been getting it ever since she announced her new 3d live some anon even posted a link to some jp site about it
>>62613436>NOVEMBER 2023 GOLDS1) Haachama (Hololive) - 127,696 - Return Stream2) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,774 - FGO Gacha3) NeruMero (Indie) - 47,083 - Genshin Impact Watchalong4) Miko (Hololive) - 80,004 - Minecraft Sports Festivel5) Hal (Neo-Porte) - 89,256 - Valorant Vsaikyo Team Distribution6) Hololive (Hololive) - 61,522 - Hoshimatic Announcement7) Pekora (Hololive) - 49,839 - Monster Strike8) Miko (Hololive) - 48,907 - Soul Calibur 69) Marine (Hololive) - 44,099 - Karaoke10) Polka (Hololive) - 68,854 - Anniversary 3D Live11) Nene (Hololive) - 78,239 - Anniversary 3D Live12) Marine (Hololive) - 177,277 - Anniversary 3D Live13) Hololive (Hololive) - 71,935 - Hoshimatic 3D Live14) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,335 - Monster Strike>PER COMPANY12x: Hololive1x: Indie, Neo-Porte>PER STREAMER3x: Pekora2x: Hololive, Marine, Miko1x: Haachama, Hal, Nene, NeruMero, Polka>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY224x: Hololive71x: Nijisanji11x: Indie6x: Neo-Porte, VSPO>PER STREAMER70x: Pekora28x: Miko21x: Marine12x: Hololive, Kuzuha10x: Subaru9x: Nijisanji, Suisei8x: Toya6x: Aqua, Hal5x: Yashiro4x: Chiroru, Fuwa, Iroha, Leos, Mio, NeruMero, Okayu, Shiina, Towa3x: Flare, Fubuki, Koyori, Lamy, Lui, Watame2x: Aki, Fuwamoco, Hajime, Hinano, Ibrahim, Korone, Maimoto, Mel, Polka, Salome, Shion, Tsukasa1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Botan, Chloe, Choco, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Haachama, Hibari, Himawari, Hololive English, Ina, Kaede, Kanade, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Kobo, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Lize, Luna, Met, Mito, Mori, Mumei, Mysta, Nene, Noel, Nose, Nozomi, Nui, Ponto, Qpi, Raden, Rikiichi, Rion, Roco, ROF-MAO, Ryushen
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY *>11/14 DAILY TALLY11,914: Kiara (Hololive)10,282: Mori (Hololive)8,312: IRyS (Hololive)7,881: Ina (Hololive)7,377: FuwaMoco (Hololive)7,188: FuwaMoco (Hololive)5,933: Nerissa (Hololive)>EN GOLDS FOR NOVEMBER 20231) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 17,718 - Spooky Stories2) IRyS (Hololive) - 16,829 - Game of Life (w/ Ina, Choco, Flare)3) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 12,710 - FuwaMoco Morning4) Scarle (Nijisanji) - 26,714 - Outfit Reveal5) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 14,962 - Karaoke6) Fulgur (Nijisanji) - 10,867 - Unarchived Karaoke7) Mumei (Hololive) - 17,273 - Unarchived Karaoke8) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 6,813 - 100 Days Celebration9) Bijou (Hololive) - 8,185 - Devil May Cry 310) Fauna (Hololive) - 10,112 - The Stanley Parable11) Bijou (Hololive) - 13,554 - Apex (w/ Amelia & Mumei)12) Aia (Nijisanji) - 12,056 - Outfit Reveal13) Mori (Hololive) - 20,890 - Monopoly (w/ Ina, Shiori, Nerissa)14) Kiara (Hololive) - 11,914 - Offcollab (w/ Mori & IRyS)>PER COMPANY11x: Hololive3x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER4x: FuwaMoco2x: Bijou1x: Aia, Fauna, Fulgur, IRyS, Kiara, Mori, Mumei, Scarle>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)28p: FuwaMoco15p: Bijou13p: Mori11p: Fauna, Mumei10p: IRyS8p: Kiara6p: Shiori5p: Aia, Fulgur, Scarle4p: Baelz3p: Vox1p: Nerissa, Petra
>>62613426I don't think mumei can hit a soprano c comfortably. I agree with Gura just being a bad soprano.
1 mil in 1 day is bad?!
>>62613497>2023 EN GOLDS>PER COMPANY247x: Hololive67x: Nijisanji3x: Holostars1x: Idol>PER STREAMER31x: Fauna30x: FuwaMoco27x: Mori, Mumei24x: Gura19x: IRyS15x: Baelz, Ina, Kronii14x: Mysta12x: Amelia, Bijou11x: Kiara9x: Vox4x: Pomu, Ren, Selen, Shu3x: Hololive English, Luca, Nerissa, Nina, Shiori2x: Alban, Finana, Fulgur, Ike, Wilson1x: Aia, Bandage, Enna, Elira, Flayon, Kyo, Luxiem, Millie, Petra, Regis, Roca, Rosemi, Scarle, Sonny, Vesper, Victoria>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)280p: Fauna264p: FuwaMoco223p: Mumei218p: Mori183p: IRyS175p: Ina153p: Baelz129p: Gura117p: Bijou, Kronii107p: Kiara105p: Mysta97p: Amelia77p: Vox75p: Luca49p: Nerissa38p: Shiori37p: Shu31p: Selen29p: Pomu24p: Nina21p: Ren20p: Fulgur19p: Ike18p: Enna17p: Sonny15p: Hololive English, Uki13p: Finana, Millie11p: Axel10p: Alban, Elira, Kotoka, Wilson9p: Vesper7p: Regis6p: Bandage, Kyo, Petra, Rosemi5p: Aia, Flayon, Luxiem, Roca, Scarle, Victoria4p: Bringer, Magni3p: Bettel, Claude, Hakka2p: Meloco1p: Kunai, Maria, Shinri, Pippa, Poko
Did anyone join Biboo for her MC stream today?
>>62613509it's a flop compared to what BTS can pull off.
>>62608600>The typical workplace drama I mean it's hard to avoid "favoritism" with how Nijisanji works and I would say jealousy is not something that can be avoided considering most livers conditionUnless they are like Holos who are making banks (even the bottom of the barrels are doing quite good considering their popularity), I doubt the favoritism and jealousy issues could ever be resolvedHololive's situation is basically>Everyone's tummies are full, so the talents won't complain much even if other talents got better food sometimesI guess Hololive sell dreams even to their streamersFrankly speaking, Nijisanji's situation hit too close to IRL situations sometimes>That one coworker who barely works got a nice bonus when she resign while another coworker who put more work than that one got less bonusBro, I'm not a saint, I would probably feel kind of jealous tooBut it's not looking good for Nijisanji's PR, though
>>62613539>mandatory conscriptionLOL have fun gookboys
>>62613464Why cant they just be happy for her doing the idol shit they dont want to do anyways.
>>62613090Out of the blue is difficult to recall them all but Subaru ASMR, Haachama cooking and lore series, Asacoco and reddit shitpost reviewLikewise, JKgumi variety shows, any of the Mayuzumi specials and even funeral streams, Uiha 3D dance once in a bluemoon because she's actually good at it, KanaeyouGunKan collabs,... In fact I stopped watching KanaeYou because without Gundou the banter is not there anymore, same as Gen 4 and Fuwa/Akina
>>62613539BTS is dead and marine is alive, the one who is left standing is the winner.
>>62613539Unironically praising BoTS and their legion of view botting algorithm manipulating fans that caused Susan to nerf the fuck out of music content in the algorithm in the first place
>>62613571its not about idolshitits about the whole niji point system which was the defense of kuzuha and kanae fags on why they get more 3d stuff getting called into question.
>>62613598
>people that suck at singing are altos/mezzosogey /#/ lets get you into bed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj2euAGNarM
>>62613539All gooks can go die in a ditchAside from Kanade, Tsuna, Yang Nari, Seffyna, cpt and Selly i guess
>>62612987Hololive accessory point system is most likely there to stop talents from clogging up production pipelines for the artists and riggers by paying for 100s of accessories for each of their models
>>62613565those issues with niji exist for 5 years anon. Their PR still is relatively good in japan and financially theres been no difference so i dont see how things will change
>>62613504At the very least mumei can hit a A#5 pretty easily with falsetto (mawaru no usagi) which is only a few semitones off a soprano c
>>62613673Kyo please...stay away from the internet for now
>>62613565Thing is niji always tried to peddle meritocracy when it comes to stuff like 3d and costumes saying that its because they earned it through points.Problem is that somehow someone who didnt earn any points gets to have it for free.
>>62613640wheres the proof of how the point system works? i know it exists but i dont think we ever know how it works except assumptions
>>62613509Compare the day 2 drop off to MariBako or her other one.
Not sure if anyone even watches it anymore buthttps://youtu.be/q_f4fiZThhMhttps://youtu.be/q_f4fiZThhMhttps://youtu.be/q_f4fiZThhM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-eg-GL7Ccg&abhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-eg-GL7Ccg&abGOLD GOLD GOLD
>>62613700That's normal of a mezzo. Almost all mezzos can sing in the 6th octave with falsetto with some training
>>62613722how can you say that when no fan has any access to the point system and how much they have? only anycolor can know that, and the individual talent
>>62613565The original post was speculation anyway, not like she pointed out someone who's actually flagging her for getting favored treatment.In fact, the one example used was Honhima, who is unironically too dumb and wholesome to even do maths about why herself should be getting anything.
>>62613697>those issues with niji exist for 5 years anon.Nah this is post 2019 issue when they forbade their livers to do stuff thats not in house since some people were complaining that rich livers had an advantage due to being able to spend money. Its one of the reasons why they implemented the point system in the first place.
Holostars is literal who territory even within their own company https://files.catbox.moe/ylqp8q.mp4
>>62613670being a soprano is worthless anyways. most pop songs/musicals/most genres peak at a high f or e max which is comfortably in mezzo range
>>62610345Personal rrat: Korone is hosting a SF6 tournament and will replace the Marika tournament next year>Towa mentioned how much work is hosting the tournament so close to her anniversary>Got invested in SF6 after joining a tournament>pretty much co-hosted Towa's Colosseum last MC Summer festival to get a feeling on how to host a tournament>Convinced Suisei to join the tournament in their last Apex collabShe will also will be the last boss of the tournament
>>62613784i dont mean this specifically but many issues that exist for years and havent changed
>>62613777Would you buy it if someone told you Haachama got the most participation points for 2023 in Hololive so she gets a bunch of things no other Holo including first army can get?
>>62613777>how can you say that when no fan has any access to the point system and how much they have?A lot of the niji livers (if im not mistaken selen was the latest) have said what stuff they do that earns them points throughout the years and its usually streaming, sponsorships and merch sales. Problem is that Aiba hasnt done that for almost a year now and yet she got more stuff through points than someone like honhima as that anon posted about last thread.
>>62613823I belieb this rrat. Towa might move yearly Mario Kart out of January so it doesn't fall at the same time she is preparing for her Anniversary plans.
>>62613504She most definitely can. You can think of a soprano high c like a tenor high c for females. I haven't met a single baritone/bass that couldn't sing a tenor high c in head voice/falsetto. The same for woman.
The average pippa poster
>>62613673>>62613626>>62613613>>62613570doesn't change the fact that Shinkiro is still a flop
so EN4 and actual JP7 in 2025?After how Advent and Regloss performed I don't think they are rushing to release new gens anytime soonmight get ID4 with it being the last ID gen unless it gets a Kobo repeat
Found this in Shiori thread.https://files.catbox.moe/ylqp8q.mp4So is Shiori based now???DemiGod, your opinions on this?
>>62613784but how do you know how much aiba earned or didnt? we as viewers cant know that just by looking at how much they stream and we certainly dont know how much they sell. i find it hard to believe in this argument made by anyone here or those nijifans when we are a third party
>>62613740>wheres the proof of how the point system works? unironically from the livers themselves if you want you can dumpster dive for it but selen recently commented on it when she talked about projects
>>62613763I watch it :)
>>62613904This is what a flop looks like.
>>62613763Thanks for the reminder anon>>62613769When was the last time we had back to back Kiara golds?
>>62613722That's the thing anonIt's just humans nature to be jealous when things are unfair for themThere are some autists in Holo fanbase who complained about new gen getting the 3D model way too easy compared to the older gens>Older gens have to fulfill the criteria of getting xxx amount of subs and grind for it while the newer gens just get the the 3D model in a breezeBut that issue won't stay for long because at the end of the day everyone get the 3D modelMeanwhile, that shit can't happen in Niji, so dramas happen
>>62613870im aware aiba havent streamed, but still, how can fans make any guess about merch and other internal data? only anycolor can know it
>>62613823Rrat: Next year's Marika tourney will include the homos
>>62613955>but how do you know how much aiba earned or didnt? we as viewers cant know that just by looking at how much they stream and we certainly dont know how much they sellI mean can you tell me with a straight face that Aiba is selling more merch than Honhima?
Holobros, I have got an offer for you.We give you Enna and Kyo(Enna is the most popular Niji En girl btw) and you give us IRyS and Axel.Deal??
Huh I thought Rebellion had stopped moving. Guess it still has legs.
>>62613951>>62613804Holy based
>>62613823It might actually be Korone because Pekora have time constraint. If Pekora were to announce it tomorrow then the tournament will fall right near her sololive. And if Pekora plan to do it AFTER then she also run the risk of overlapping all the New Year event and MarioKa tournament
>>62613959i know the point sytem exists anon, what im saying is that i never saw any details about how it works, only for guesses. with selen its recent enough that i remember how she talked about it but never about how it works and she gets tickets or points
>>62614030Yea looks like it got a boost out of nowhere.
>>62613978>Kiara and Mori getting the golds for EN what good are even promise and advent at this point
>>62614000>but still, how can fans make any guess about merch and other internal data?probably by measuring popularity since they were basing it with someone like honhima
>>62613370Leona my dear...Please be in JP7
>>62613539>compared to what BTS can pull off>the BTS views
>>62613924they should stop recruiting ID flops, fucking start a brand new branch already
>>62614015thats the thing, idk, i dont have the data to say that. and isnt honhima way less popular these days? it feels like she got more things 2019-2021 when she was more on the higher side
>>62614001>marika tournament with someone the no homos 1st army>with the homos
this new website is fucking ass
>>62614023>you give us IRyS and Axel.Give Pomu, Selen, Rosemi, Kotoka and Meloco and you IRyS might stream as a Niji talent for 2 hours. She comes back to Holo after those 2 hours
>>62614062This is why I will never take kpoop numbers seriously
based, >we >we (You) still has legs
https://x.com/dqkeshikeshi_pr/status/1724672326774710741?s=46&t=vAuMk6FVLkrJxgLS90A6gwKek the other might as well doesn’t exist for DQ dev
>>62613951>>62613804lmao respect her collab choices, sisters
>>62613804>>62613951She's EN, not JP. I bet iShe'd be able to talk about any of the Tempus boys for hours.
>>62613955Use your logic>A lot of competitions >Barely stream>Not 1st tier NijiYou think she sell a lot?
>>62614093>and isnt honhima way less popular these days?Thats the thing despite honhima being way less popular than her 2019-2021 self she is still a lot more popular than aiba Thats like believing that Taka is earning the same as Kuzuha
>>62613823How is the netcode in SF6? could any overseas members join without it being a lagfest?
>>62614165>She'd be able toyet she hasn't. Check mate sister.
>>62614165huffing some strong copium there sister
>>62614058Nah, i like my chuuba scene varied and livelyI'd rather wish ReAct and her somehow incline instead
>>62614043Nah I think mori is the one who will organize SF6 Tournament.
>>62614111???Can't accept their recline ENshart kun?
GO VIVI GO
>>62614062Black Pink and BTS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HololiveAnd I am a Hololive fan. But Kpop is like next level in terms of fan following
>>62613969AIEEEEE delete this.
Another half month and 3m for Shunkan Heartbeat. What is the milestone achievement for it?
>>62614189scarle isnt a big member and she still has lots of SCs, so not always popularity and fans spending is money is the same, thats why i dont buy it totally
>>62614223I mean sure, but you and I both know this isn't happening
>>62613955you must be one of the most retarded people out therethats like beliving that someone from id like bonnivier is earning as much as kanae or kuzuha
>>62614165Then why hasn't she yet? She mentions her JP/EN/ID senpai every stream you would think the boys would get brought up since she knows them so well
>>62614229Europoor>600
>>62614165>Sister coping rnKek
I thought Boogie Vox broke up?
>>62613823Yeah, I cold see that happening. Pekora will be busy with her solo live and the end the year events plus Korone already has experience hosting large events
>>62613951>>62613951Lmao baaaased. Fucking beggars also sprouted up in the nail collab when Kiara asked if anyone else in holoLIVE played the genital jousting game besides Bae. None of them acknowledge the beggar spam about Axel playing it.
>>62614062
>>62613955I mean look at iluna can you really say aia is more popular than ren in any metric that she deserves an outfit over him?
>>62614204Extremely good afaik, to the point literally everyone say SF6 should have won best multiplayer game over MK just because of it
>>62613763NUMBERCHADS
>>62613804payback for blue homo who literally who-ed some holoJP despite his stream being leeching from them (holocard packs opening or something)
So is the point system is at fault?
MUMEI IN TOP 10
>>62614245Doing a great job of fitting in sister
Holotori Dance is above Mumei already? Hookeks your response?
>Novelites raid the thread again.>Thread goes to shit.I sense a pattern here.
>>62614334Lol, i saw that, it was so cringy when they won't stop spamming it and got completely ignore.
>>62613804>>62613951Chat: You look like Shien.>Shiori: I look like Shien? Who? *laughs>Shiori: Or do you mean Shion? Whose Shien? *laughs
>>62614111Oh hey, all four Advent channels on the top of subgrowth, nice.
>>62614265Who do you think earns more for the company scarle or toko?
>>62614389We're busy sister come back in a couple of hours.
>>62614379Nah hookeks expected this. They were all doomposting the song because of genre on release.
>>62614379>Mumei's song vs. Mumei songShe wins either way. Nice try though novelite.
>>62614265>SC is the only source of income
>>62614295She doesn't know anything about holoolive.
>>62614073But enough about homostars
>>62614369Nope. The fault lies in the 2 tier system they implemented where regular nijis have to use the point system to get stuff while the chosen class can get it without the point system.Point system was basically the deflection whenever someone like kuzuha got a new costume that he doesnt even use while others get nothing but it seems that its not true at all.
TOP 2 SHEEP BAAAAAAA~SED
>>62614379>Loopable catchy pop vs shitty edmnice try anon
>>62614456It's barely been 3 months and shiori already has antis repeating catalog shitposts like they are facts, what is it about her that generates such seethe?
>>62614389>I sense a patternYeah same I noticed that when I watch IRyS I get turned on every time too.
Holotori dance at 4mil within 2monthsWill it pass take me home at 5.3mil
>>62614499They've been there since debut
>>62614389Yeah it's gotta suck having your lies called out huh
>>62612913the akane thing might be refering to this. there were a couple of tweets that were also deleted and im trying to find the source of the others
>>62614499I've started to really buy that it's those shitty 2 views and their fans that are just seething that she's a crab that got out of the bucket.
>>62614245>Fan following Unironic hard view botting.
>>62614265>>62610847
>>62614499>what is it about her that generates such seethe?shiori got ostracized by 2view collab cliques back when she wasnt in hololive.her getting into hololive is the biggest slap in the face for them.
>>62614389>sister got mad that shiori talked about that someone blacklisted the word wifekek
BAE 800K DORRRYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKNEEL TO YOUR RAT QUEEN.
>>62614389Thread was definitely much better with less fanbase warfare when they were too busy playing wife defense like 8 hours ago.
>>62614228>Mori volunteers to host an EN side tournament>Sets up a frame with open VC>Nobody joinsI almost want to see her try
So we like Novelites now?Is there any other fandom besides the obvious IRyStocrats and Saplings who like Shiori?
Korean love plastic surgery.True or not?
>>62614615She was already 800K more than a few days ago. Keep up.
>>62613889I dont think Towa will do the marika next year since she didnt want to do it this year
Bae still hasn't ticked even after appearing in marine liveFauna hasn't ticked due to not streamingBae had the best chance to close the gap but she wasted it.
But why did IRyS fail so hard? 300k music covers, 5k sub growth a month, 5k ccv average and 500k originals songs. Its over for her.
>>62614499She a holo, every holo have a schizo and antis even id.
>>62614637>So we like Novelites now?No, they simply swarm like locusts any critical posts so it looks that way to outsiders.
>>62614651Koreans love plastic surgery the same way Blacks love crime or whites love being pedosIts true but its racist to point it out
>>62614658Kaela hates raids. She always blocks Biboo from raiding her.
I see the thread-shitters woke up
>>62614672how hasn't fauna pulled away yet? she averages 3x bae ccv
>>62614637>weNo, nigga. No one ever liked them, stop falling for it.
When is kyo suspension ending ?
>>62614651Kyo you're suspended get out of here
>>62614694Kyo please
>>62614694>whites love being pedosfuck you I'm not white
>>62614694>whites love being pedosBlacks are pedos too anon, they just don't report those crimes.
>>62614635I believe in mori. She will organize a very successful tournament.
>>62613722The problem with all of this is that their internal culture is fucked.Even if Holos had disagreements with each other or the company, they would talk it out (and sometimes even have fights) behind the scenes and make sure they're all cool with each other.They're not gonna come out in front of a stream and throw shade at other holos who they're having fights or disagreements with. They used to do it to management when it wasn't that great, but even that's something that seems to have been fixed now.But Nijis don't work that way. Most of them aren't even that close with each other, so some of them treat each other like coworkers and whisper behind each other's backs.Which eventually makes it to the person being whispered about, but they can't do anything about it because technically they're total fucking strangers, and Japanese culture is non-confrontational by default so no one really talks about this shit and clears things up.At the same time, we already know that niji management has some favorites they push for whatever reason (even with less mindshare) because those livers suck up to them (figuratively or literally).So from the top level if there's favoritism, obviously that's not going to go well among the rank and file.Just from numbers it's very likely that Aiba DID get some amount of favoritism, but anyone who gets such benefits would simply see it as part of work life and call "skill issue" for those whining about it without doing anything themselves. And so Aiba throws shade in public for stuff said in private.This obviously makes niji fans mad because a lot of them have seen how hololive handles conflicts and would prefer if the nijis did the same by talking with each other behind the scenes and resolving things.And Aiba bringing up behind the scenes shit up front while she's being accused of favoritism is obviously not going to sit well with many fans.You can see how this sort of turns into an infinite fucking loop because of just one thing leading into another.
>>62614720Takotori tick tock race repeating itself
>>62614725a week from now or if the korean drama dies out
>>62614694All men love girls under 18. The ones who deny this the hardest and attack others for cunny, are the ones that love girls under 13.
>>62614637yes, ignore the 2 views seethe
i find it funny how bae is literally just a reincarnation of kiara but with half the subs
>>62614720Fauna doesn't pull in new audiences, just the people who watched her before still watch her. She doesn't get clipped and never tweets, so her sub growth is small. Her fans are still dedicated as fuck, though.
Never noticed this but Seffyna has a higher peak than Fuwa (3739), which puts her at 2nd place for Suika record after obviously Hayama's newly acquired record.BTS still need to go die tho.
>>62614729>>62614730He put out facts
>>62614687True, she should just Quit Holo and become my wife. I wanna hold her princess like hands in mine and princess carry her like she deserves.
>>62614761>Most of them aren't even that close with each otherLol you remind me during that peko and niji collab. Nijijp doesn't talk to each other, it just a 9-5 job for them.
>>62614793fauna gets pretty good clip views despite having less of them
>>62614793>She doesn't get clippedHah, I see her clips all the fucking time, more than most Promise members in fact. Sounds like cope.
>>62614736el basado
>>62614801SEFFY MY LOVEShe called my name once as well
>>62614761Why is the internal culture between two companies in the same field so different anon?
>>62614049speaking of boosts from nowhere I think FWMC cute na kanojo actually gave Fauna's cover a small boost.also the FWMC cover seems to have some of the best legs of the halloween songs
>>62614761>niji management has some favorites they push for whatever reason (even with less mindshare)its due to the niji resistance, most of the livers that have small mindshare but have been given favoritism are usually from that circle since they act as an internal self defense for the management if some livers complainits why during the roa - meiro drama most of groups supporting one side was kuzuhas circle and the other chaika circle
>>62614637>WeNo one does faggot, not even they like themselves.
>>62614416Really nigga? Did you just compared Toko to Scarle?She just released a mini album that look like she paid some a tier deviant art artist for the main art/cover of the album
>>62614512Probably is take me home even growing?>>62614534It's crazy how top heavy this chart is
>>62614793fauna gets a shit ton of clips nowadays lol. kronii and mumei don't really get clipped anymore, only by their dedicated clippers and like sashimi
>>62614909Will it pass ochame kinou at 13mil Now that would be mind-blowing of it did happen especially on the debuff channel
>>62614761>They're not gonna come out in front of a stream and throw shade at other holos who they're having fights or disagreements withIsnt that why the whole Roa drama escalated to what it is because both people refused to sit it out and talk to each other and instead listened to the other livers.
>>62614844Do you expect more than 200 people to all know and be close to each other? Even in Hololive you can pick out some pairings that barely have had any interactions after years in the same company.
>>62614637We like Shiori, idk about novelites tho….. it’s like if kronii denounced the homos, we still wouldn’t like Kronies
>>62614488Tbf, someone like Kuzuha definitely has sales number to back him up, so other livers can't get mad at him
>>62614907Well according to the anon that i replied to Scarle might be earning more than Toko since she has a lot of SC and us not having internal numbers.
>>62614935Mumei gets botted and Kronii has the coomer audience tho, what is Fauna's appeal even supposed to be?
>>62613697>Their PR still is relatively good in japanI actually have a theory that Nijisanji's compartmentalized fanbases helps in avoiding full blown shit shows despite multiple minor and sometimes major dramas constantly happening in the company. Holo has a unified/shared fanbase for the most part which makes them a force when it's time to "circle the wagons" when shit hits the fan. Most of them are also pretty passionate since majority are talent first advocates while the company first fans tend to be outnumbered by quite a bit. Hence why when cover fucks up like back in 2020-21, they get absolutely grilled by the fans too. This however has the downside that they also tend to be a rowdy bunch and pushback loudly (whether against internal or external enemies) as demonstrated by the marine x Miko doujin incident and the recent suisei one a few weeks back. Anycolor's fanbase is big too and I'm sure that most of them are talent first advocates themselves. The issue is that because each fanbase is seperate from each other, when shit does hit the fan, no single fanbase (outside of maybe Kuzuha) is big enough to raise a stink about it. Another advantage is that if the problem does become an actual detriment to the company's reputation (Gundou, Kyo, Gwelu) they can easily suspend or outright cut off said talents and the company first fans can mold the perception of what happened. It's like in politics where a handful of people can easily control everything because the hundreds of other politicians aren't really unified enough to oppose them.
>>62614907wasnt the art done by another liver?
>>62614873Because 50 something people working together closely will develop a different dynamic than 100+ people who might haven't seen each other's face their entire careerAlsoOne company treat itself as a vessel for their talent, while the other an actual boss
>>62614844It’s easy to understand, especially with a company whose culture is “You don’t have to keep up with every liver”
>>62613608Okay. Sounds like your issue is your own and not really an industry issue like you originally claim
>>62614245Only kpop musician I know is BoA.
>>62614879Why is Chaika's circle different to Kuzuha's when Kanae can comfortably interact and collab with them both any time?
>>62614944Yeah, like Shiori and Shien
>>62614980I have a theory that Nijisanji "fans" simply don't give a fuck and represent the most docile and zombified of the already pathetically weak and undiscerning Japanese population.
>>62613696I want to see pekora being given a pass and having her go all out on an outfit with as much extra stuff she can get
Listening to some minutes of Victoria's stream and she sounds so different from the other nijien girls, also she feels like a bit mix of holoen members personality/mannerism
>>62615049Pekora doesn't deserve anything. Cover needs to focus on giving holoEN their 3D and not some useless accessories for pekora.
>>62614635This the one thing I always found hilarious. The one who host events in EN coincidentally are also those without much soft power in the branch, so barely anyone show up every time they host oneMeanwhile in JP, you slap First Army face on events and the rest of the branch immediately line up to join it and make the time
>>62615017Same reason why Shiina was in Chaikas camp despite being wavemates with Kuzuha.
>>62614245SNSD > Black pink (overrated)
>>62615017wasnt kanae one of the neutral parties in the whole roa thing along with rion and that other liver that had a jap hick accent? or am i thinking of another drama
>>62615049Anon even if she was given a pass we all know Pekora is picky when it come to her outfit, so she would still take a long while to even approve one, let alone make it
>>62614873Nta, but the root cause of most dramas in Nijisanji is the high number of livers>If they started with low amount of livers, they might have less internal competition which would in turn lessen the tense situations among coworkers>If they started with low amount of livers, the livers might be able to bond with each other
>>62614995Why is nijisanji unable to give every talent 3d showcase/live/outfits/accessories like hololive In hololive even the runts of the company hell the staff can't get 3d and lives/anniversary merch/outfits/accessories Even the en and I'd branch can get all these thingsBoth companies make around same money whereas one is give all its talents and branches everything even if delayed one doesn't do even do that even after delays and excuses.Where all the money is going then?
>>62614245>black pink and bts>grouping CGDCT with homoshits
>It's like in politics where a handful of people can easily control everything because the hundreds of other politicians aren't really UNIFIED enough to oppose them.isn't this what /#/ wants Hololive to be that's why they're very averse on this "Unity" shit. they want Hololive to be divided so Cover can deal with things easily. anti-Unityfags wants Hololive to be like Nijisanji in terms of fanbase fragmentation.
>>62614761>They're not gonna come out in front of a stream and throw shade at other holos who they're having fights or disagreements with.Imagine the drama if pekomiko come out and talk shit about each other
>>62615017Kanae is just Predator Rank at communicating, and seems decent enough that he would just ignore the clique shenanigans. Dude straight up jumped into the discord room of a NijiKR collab and shouted the equivalent of "hamburger hamburger hellor" because he wanted to make friends with foreign branches.
>>62613951>Found this in Shiori thread.Why would you blatantly lie to me like that, bro?
>>62615189>isn't this what /#/ wants Hololive to beno /#/ wants hololive to be anti unity externally (other groups like homostars, niji etc) but unified internally
>>62614940Yeah and no. One of the two wanted to cause issues.
>>62614940Isn't it ridiculous that real life resemble manga sometimes?
Out of the blue is difficult to recall them all but Subaru ASMR, Haachama cooking and lore series, Asacoco and reddit shitpost reviewLikewise, JKgumi variety shows, any of the Mayuzumi specials and even funeral streams, Uiha 3D dance once in a bluemoon because she's actually good at it, KanaeyouGunKan collabs,...In fact I stopped watching KanaeYou because without Gundou the banter is not there anymore, same as Gen 4 and Fuwa/Akina>>62613608> Asacoco & Shitpost reviewLosing Coco did deal a bit of a blow to meme-related content. I'd argue that HoloEN should be able to take up the mantle for these types of shows since a lot of them are well-versed in western meme culture.But reddit in general has sort of died off and gotten filled with beggars, unfunny okbh shit or just straight up antis. Most of the fun stuff is /here/ or on containment breaking twitter which they obviously can't address directly.Coco was unique, there's a reason she was revered by most fans. But she was also a product of her time.A talent joking about doing drugs or "jokes" about one of their genmates' merch being "rag cloth" would get mercilessly pummeled by the holoanti circle nowadays - and even get shit from some newer holo fans who might actually think she's shitting on holos.. you'd need some VERY strong mental in order to tank that.But even IF someone tanked through that and made such jokes again... they'd just be compared to Coco, who did it better.You'll have to live with the fact that Coco 2.0 is no longer possible in the current industry climate.> Subaru ASMR> Haachama Lore, cookingI'd argue these types of content are those that are "one and done", and to make a series out of these you'd need a constant flow of new ideas.I assume the niji streams are similar. Subaru's duck voice ASMR works once. If she keeps doing that, there's no novelty. Because it's the same content as the first one.If haachama wants to do lore shit again, she'll have to toe the Youtube line and stick to certain topics. She might return to it at some point, but it's honestly a lot of work to think about all the story related stuff and how it works out on-screen.She's already run through one storyline to "become" haachama right now, and anything she does in the future will have to alter herself again - or else there's no permanence. And she herself might not want to change who "she" is so frequently. It's still possible though, so we can only hope.I assume the niji streams are similar, in that they're one-and-done type of streams that you need to constantly innovate to stay on top of.Miko already discussed this issue happening to the sports fes, where they felt the need to continuously innovate, build more games, better, more diverse, and never repeating stuff so that the audience doesn't accuse them of just coasting. Most of the audience WOULDN'T do that obviously, but they know it would be boring to watch the exact same thing year on year.Which is why they're taking a break of one year and then thinking about what to do with it afterwards.Your complaint is mostly the fact that the girls are running out of ideas... and that's true, but that happens to every content creator. They're not stopping though. Every year you get at least one new idea from a talent.. summerfes, sportsfes, mariokart, rust, aki's 3D series project, world rabbitality project.. holos are working pretty hard to give out entertaining content to the viewers every single day. Not all of them would hit the mark obviously, but a lot of them do.Also I noticed that most of the streams you talked about are friendly to an EN audience... so I assume you don't understand Japanese? You didn't mention the Rust kino or the FubuMarine fight in amongus, or Oozora Police or Sister Marine.. are those stream types not of interest to you?
>>62615161Soon the Cover Corp janitor Mr Sato will get a 3D model and merch for 4 yrs loyal service. He will be releasing A Funny Japanese Song cover on the Homostars channel.
>>62615189>/#/ wants hololive to be like nijisanji the company they always shit onbased retardgod
Too long didn’t read
>>62615230>Shiori thread.he means last thread >>62607209
>>62615101Towa is not first army though.
>>62614720The Japan arc + getting sick so quite a bit less streams slowed Fauna down quite a bit.Bae got a big boost from her 3D, likely due to the JP guests and nature of it (Fauna didn't get as big a boost from hers, likely due to being blocked for the first few days), Bae's also done a few Jp and tourist friendly things since e.g: cover/collab with Chloe and the VR Karaoke, which is usually what get's Bae a sub boost.So you could say it's suprising that Fauna doesn't pull further ahead with the ccv difference, but it's also suprising Bae never actually catches her despite situations like the current one. It really is the Ina - Kiara situation again
>>62615017Kanae is and acts like an actual Daisenpai. He tries to be as supportive as possible to everyone, especially newcomers. Even when he can't he would just keep silent and won't join in anything murky.
>>62615250Yeah I used to believe that as well but the more that I read about the drama the more i realized that both were retards who wanted to throw tantrums and cause issue since it was the only way things change in nijisanji.
>>62615284Wasn’t MarioKa tourney originally belong to Miko?
>>62615189Not even close anon. Unityfags are like the LGBT fags of the community. A really loud and obnoxious part of the fandom (that aren't even fans most of the time) trying to get everyone else to pander to their sensibilities.
>>62615149I know, but I want to see the world after part 3 of the outfit accessory reveal stream is possible.
>>62615017Kanae like Mito is mostly neutral when it comes to clique shenanigans and most of his drama comes from either him being a hormonal menhera or his fans being menhera
>>62613854I'd assume everyone behind the scenes wants nice things for Haachama and are willingly letting her have things because they want her to.
>>62615161>Hundreds of livers>Less than a hundred of membersAnd I don't think anyone ever ghosted their viewers for such a long time in HololiveSome Nijis stream only once in a blue moon when they feel like it
>>62613854Such as?
>>62615252No one cares about what JPShit does. It's soulless and not as fun as EN event stream.
>>62615377nijiEN is boring tho
>>62614936Maybe if they get a holotori live, and more songs to give it a boost. At the current rate it would take years for it to pass ocame kinou
>>62613464also the ars thing might have sprung from this which was amplified with the stream that got privatedhttps://twitter.com/ars_almal/status/1724442336665424217
>>62615287both bae and fauna got 3k from their 3d u lying sapling kek
>>62614980I would argue that the talent first fans in Nijisanji's fanbase are only talent first for their favorite talent(s). The outcome of this doesn't merely stop at complete apathy for the issues other talents face(which can often be the case), but if a talent they don't care about has an issue or causes problems for their favorite talent(s) they will actually join the company first fans in molding the perception of what happened.
>>62614140At least the others got in. I feel kinda bad that lui lui didn't, with how much she's been playing it.But holox isn't lacking for sponsorship so it's fine
>>62614873Nijisanji doesn't really try to push company or branch unity beyond a respective liver's wave or already established cliques that have been around for years. Hololive actively pushes the girls to mingle with each other and they promote cross branch and generation events/collabs as much as possible.Idol reps are also unironically great team building exercises and they try to get everyone something when it comes to sponsors, deals, merch, and outfits so no one really complains about favoritism (though there are cases of unintentional neglect due to management fuck ups). Also having dedicated tard wranglers who act like literal nannies does wonders for keeping everyone in check.
Which unit group song has the most views in hololive?
>>62615398>holotori livegod no, subaru, lui and kiara can't sing, mumei can't dance, kiara is annoying as fuck and mumei treats hololive as a paypig/doesn't care about 3d
>>62614992Whose art? The art is shitThe only purpose I'm buying an album is for the appearanceGuess more money in my bank for me
>>62615252I did enjoy Holo Rust but it was far from being new.The first Rust kino I got was from before Holos started doing it, with the VSPO/CR/Niji server.And I do understand spoken JP to a serviceable degree, enough to understand most streams.
>>62615195>The day is December 31st, 2024>Gura puts up a frame, which is unusual for her, especially after her absence from the NYE mega-concert an hour prior "For health reason">1 single post on Twitter: "I MUST CONFESS SOMETHING">Every one tune in, wonder if she has anything to say>30k waiting room in 5 mins>Stream starts>It's just a black screen for 15 minutes, couple with some giggles every now and then>Everyone getting worry, has Gura lost her mind? Does the stress of Cover's management finally got to her? Has she finally found her molded bread?>Suddenly, Gura appears in her home 3D>She looks straight to the screen for like 15 secs>Utter one single sentence>"Yes, it was I who fired the two fucks">*Dab*>Stream endsPost yfw
>>62615422Holotori. This is why I think cover should listen to kiara more and give her preferential treatment.
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20231113_02/>Whoring yourself out to pay for host club.The sisters were projecting all these time
>>62615452
>>62615408>I would argue that the talent first fans in Nijisanji's fanbase are only talent first for their favorite talent(s)Thats basically it. A number of nijifans are huge corpo bootlickers even saying that other livers should work as much as their oshi if they want stuff from management but will turn the moment their oshi gets shafted but there will still be a number of them defending anycolor since they believe their oshi will be rewarded by anycolor if they defend their actions. Saw it happen in ID and KR.
schizo levels today?
>>62615452Why is she stating the obvious in this stream?
>>62615240Well, the thing is that Hololive wasn't like that, and will never be like that unless forced to by external force
i hate you fags so much
>>62615161Hololive isn't in the triple digits of members yet and Cover expanded the number of employees they have to compensate as well so the talent to backscene worker ratio is actually pretty good. Nijisanji has triple digit members and have been noted to have a very a poor liver to employee/manager ratio.
>>62615434Retard holotori is the 2nd most successful unit in hololive. Kiara absolutely did well creating that unit.
Holotori is the shittiest group ever>Takanashi "Shame of Myth" Kiara>Pavolia "She exists?" Reine>Nanashi "Haha school is my priority" Mumei >Takane "Shame of HoloX" LuiLiterally only 1 good member
>>62615479How did anycolour manage to cultivate such bootlicking ass sucking fanbaseWhile hololive even after trying has failed?
>>62613804>>62613951https://youtu.be/4mSFT28_guc?t=248there were some members trying to tell her but it was fun to see her dodge all of them kek
>>62615505Is this about you? >>62615462 I'm sorry, I didn't know things were that bad. How much do you charge btw?
>>62615505NIJISEETHE
>>62615518Who is the first?
>>62615519Seething because he bet his balls that it wasn't going to do as well as Umisea.
>>62615522Sunk cost Remember they used to be the top Vtuber corpo, and then they stopped being the top and Nijifriends need to cope somehow
>>62615546Umisea.
>>62614499PL antis most likely, I didn't like her at debut either but I just forgot about her, this level of seethe doesn't happen out of nowhere.
>>62615408>I would argue that the talent first fans in Nijisanji's fanbase are only talent first for their favorite talent(s)I mean, that's also true for Hololive to a certain extend (Looking at you, EOP)
>>62615568What's their group song #
>Posting about sub numbers being grimToday # will receive a grim reminder of what grim is
>>62615559What happened to those talent fans when they used to be top Vtuber company who are now replaced by riku cumsleeves
>>62615580Fucking nijifag.
>>62615519Holotori is the best group ever>Kiara the brains of Myth>Reine the royal princess>Nanashi Mumei the quirky star of Council>Lui the oneesan and tardwrangler of HoloXLiterally only 5 good members
Recent studies have shown that individuals who are drawn to vtuber culture have a higher likelihood of being socially maladjusted and sexually frustrated. These failed males often feel alienated from mainstream society and use vtubers as a means of escape from their daily lives. They lack the social skills and emotional intelligence necessary to form meaningful relationships, and instead resort to projecting their desires onto virtual personalities who will never reciprocate their affections. The behavior of these cunts is symptomatic of deeper psychological issues that require professional attention.Vtuber fans suffer from a severe lack of masculinity and testosterone, as evidenced by their preference for animated women over real-life females. These failed males are unable to compete in the traditional male hierarchy and are therefore forced to seek out alternative forms of validation. Their obsession with virtual idols is a coping mechanism that allows them to escape from the reality of their inadequacy. By devoting themselves to a fantasy world, they are able to avoid confronting the harsh truths of their own shortcomings.The popularity of vtuber culture is indicative of a broader societal problem: the erosion of traditional gender roles and the rise of effeminacy in men. These faggots are emblematic of a generation of males who lack the strength and fortitude to succeed in the modern world. Instead of pursuing excellence and self-improvement, they choose to immerse themselves in a world of make-believe where their inadequacies are ignored. Vtuber fans are not just failed males, they are the symptom of a sick and degenerate society that values weakness over strength and indulgence over discipline.
>>62615570>PL
>>62615597JUST
>>62615017>Kanae brutally killing Chaika>In the KuzuhaCuphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO_5KZ-6A7g
>>62615578certain extent which means less than 10% of the population anon rather than niji which has it around 60-70%
>>62615405You got a source for that
>>62615597Isn't she the one who got shilled by pewdiepie and then proceed to filter that entire boost by spamming ff14 until her channel died?
>>62615522Hololive fanbase have higher ratio of intellectuals, we are not easily fooled.
>>62613696Still no source for the points system for holo.
>>62615617yes, PL means past "VTuber" identity, there's a difference between that and "roommate" you utter newfag.
Why did holotori manage to work while umisea having more popular member failed to work?
Easy gold.
>>62615480quite low actually, I did notice a few faggots trying to start holo v holo to change the topic
YO YO YO YO YOOOOO DAYO
>>62615637Chumbuds literally paying for nothing at this point.
>>62615636no thats rin
>>62615601I assume you weren’t around for the historical moment of>Nijisanji removing the term “Number one Vtuber agency” from their websiteIt was the end of an era in its truest sense and even Riku knew it
>>62615522when the employees are theiving in spite of everything the company does, it's natural the fanbase will latch on the talents. it's kind of related to Shigure Ui's statements about vtuber fanbases.
>>62615522Holofags watch holos because they actually enjoy themNijifags watch nijisanji because they are too cool for hololive and so anything that makes their company looks bad reflects onto them as well
>>62615650That’s shill stream retard
>>62615679>it's kind of related to Shigure Ui's statements about vtuber fanbases.bullshit shigure ui fanbase wants to rape her but shigure ui doesnt want to rape her fanabse
>>62614944not ALL of them obviously, but typically even at classrooms or workplace with large number of employees, you'll at least have a clique or friend group that you frequently collab with on stream and hang out with off stream to shoot the shit.
>>62615646Fuck off sister
>>62615658>Chumbuds out of nowhereRent free
>>62615609Thanks ChatGPT, very cool
>>62614944>Do you expect more than 200 people to all know and be close to each other?yeah but you expect them to be at least close with their wavemates especially when some of them only debuted in groups of 3
>>62615648>Holotori only have to deal with 1 autist>UMISEA have to deal with 3
>>62615666Wait they had number one Vtuber agency on their website I thought it was just a general public statementWere they so arrogant or was it actually true at that time?
>>62615480Mostly just low effort contrarianism today
>>62615627lmaodoes he also larp as a psychopath like Suisei? Seems like his model and voice would fit
I have a bit of an emergency, I can't seem to remember what's so good about cunny. Could someone kindly remind me? preferably with images.
>>62615733They did they had the no 1 vtuber agency and top vtuber on their website but slowly removed it.
https://cover-corp.com/en/news/detail/20231115-02https://cover-corp.com/en/news/detail/20231115-02https://cover-corp.com/en/news/detail/20231115-02
>>62615733>>62615754And by the way, it was back when Kizuna Ai was still around
>>62615689? https://vrabi.net/video/blosl-GzX-QAnd DQ is much more popular and fitting for Pekora than Yokai Watch ever will be.
>>62615729Holotori are def autistic just different kinds of autistic.
>>62615754Was the statement true or just narcissm by them at that time anon?
>>62615751
Cover corp new game guidlineshttps://cover-corp.com/en/news/detail/20231115-02https://cover-corp.com/en/news/detail/20231115-02https://cover-corp.com/en/news/detail/20231115-02
https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1724699623418364198indie games guidelines
>>62615756I wish nijisanji did this esepcially with regards to fan merch and events instead of nuking them.
>>62615532So will this demotivate the beggars or embolden them to try harder
>>62615756>>62615781>Holo ParadeOh hey, I actually follow this guy when he's still making the gameAlso>Not HolocureCOME THE FUCK ON TANIGO WTF
>>62615756HOLOLIVE INCLINING
>>62615479>but there will still be a number of them defending anycolor since they believe their oshi will be rewarded by anycolor if they defend their actions. Saw it happen in ID and KR.Room temperature IQ type of behaviourDoes it never cross their mind the shit got done to other livers could happen to their favourite?
>>62615778see>>62615769you tell me
>>62615779thats a child
>>62615805Kay doesnt want holocure to be linked to official cover stuff anon since that would pressure him to actually work on it instead of being a pastime
>>62615292Wasn't Kanae the one that dismissed the criticisms at niji by saying that as far as he's concerned he's being paid well?
now you can submit your game in a program and it will be put on steam under hololive brand
>>62615805Holocure got enough recognition and already been posted on Steam so not a good example
>>62615805>>Not Holocure>COME THE FUCK ON TANIGO WTFYagoo wanted to, kay is the one who wouldn't sell
>>62615839Wait, so what's the difference here? Because I'm sure Holocure still falls under this, right?
>>62615522It's OGs fault on both sides. Mito and Sora are symbols and pillars for their respective companies. The difference is that Sora had FBK who helped set the internal company culture and brought in Mio who many talents profess to having helped them not give up during the early years. Those 2 hags are the main reason why cover's internal culture is what it is right now. Mito had JKgumi and chinman but even though Kenmochi's a good event organizer, he and the rest of JKgumi aren't the locker room leaders that FBK and Mio are.
>>62615769Unless somehow nijisanji passed Kizuna Ai at some point but got culled that statement never was true.Its basically in the same realm as what some nijifags try to push which was nijisanji was the reason why kizuna ai became popular.
>>62615733It wasHololive wasn’t always popular. Even up until the early era of Gamers-Sankisei they were still losing to Niji on global tally
>>62615680>because they are too cool for hololivepippafags are like that too
thoughts on games that arent free?
>>62615876I think for new game going forward
>>62615522The ones on the NijiEN side defend the company and bash the other livers causing trouble as they believe that Niji doing bad means less stuff for their oshi.
>>62615876According to him If he signs it to cover then he might be self pressured to finish the product instead of taking it slowThat and this looks like for games that arent released yet
>>62615756Shit. They really are 2hu2
>>62615726Some of them do and some of them don'tMeifu, SMC Gumi, Sanbaka do. Blues, Posanke, Aka no Soshiki don't.Just like in hololive you have the closer gens like Gokisei and Sankisei or the more distant ones like Yonkisei and Nikisei. Don't get me wrong, I have no doubt Holos in average are closer to their co-workers than Nijis, but the post I was referring to was clearly a hyperbole. Like, I watch Kanae. The dude is close friends with all his wavemates and friends with like half of the company.
>>62615903depends on how good it isi would pay good money for a hololive mariokart/crash team racing/chocobo racing done right
>>62615924IT'S ALWAYS COMES BACK TO THE 2HU BABYWE RUN THIS SHIT
>>62615924Now that you mention it, it really does follow 2hu model, but with more support I guess
>>62615650Lazy schizo
>>62615756It's my personal headcanon that a lot of case studies were written about how badly Kancolle was mishandled, especially when it came to derivative works/games, which lead to good stuff like this.
>>62615841basically a "Dev:InsertDevHere, Publisher:COVERCORP"?
>>62615903I'm fine with that. If it's a good game I'll try it. The point of this is to have in place a situation where everyone makes money. Probably decided to go with it in case another game like Holocure blows up.
>>62615903As long as Cover price controls it, it should be fine
>>62615769I know it's a nijicope, but I think you could make the argument that if you added all the liver fans together as one, that Niji was a bigger agency than Activ8.
>>62615784Here comes the flood of garbage games.
Myth? Promise?
I was looking at the previous thread and some anon mentioned one of the ranunculus getting stealth suspended since july and it seems like it fits since she was close with some of the vta that got fired
>>62615878>Sora, Mio, FBKstreams regularly>Chinman, JKgumibarely streamsThat's your problem
>>62615955With corpo backing yeahThe thing about 2hu is that it is entirely fan-driven, which is nice, but can be limiting at the same time since many Touhou fanime took a long time to come out due to lack of manpowers and fund
>>62615663A reminder that Rin was once one of the top 20 most subscribed vtubers. Her FF14 autism killed her channel.
>>62615965Yes.
>>62615903i bought the korone game so im ok as long as it's not expensive
Hololive only grows stronger
>>62615965Basically, Dev makes game. Presents it to Cover, Cover quality checks it and Publishes it.
ok bros what kind of game i should make?
>>62615991Kiara is in JapanPromise doesn't stream on Tuesdays
>>62615756https://store.steampowered.com/app/2647230/HoloParade/https://store.steampowered.com/app/2647230/HoloParade/https://store.steampowered.com/app/2647230/HoloParade/
>>62615641Not really a source but I thought Fauna mentioned it sometime shortly after the cape relay. Like a set amount of extras they can request with each outfit.Then people kept trying to conflate it with the Niji system, despite it not being the same thing at all
>>62615991gura deadina deadmori worthlesskiara worthlessame worthlessmumei studyingfauna deadkronii worthlessbae worthlessirys worthless
>>62614073DEV_IS?
>>62615903No amount of money will make your game fun.
>>62615480I feel like late night doxxfaggotry stopped ever since the /hlg/ Fauna raid. Sisters must've been upset by what was revealed. Suisei drama also is in the past.
>>62616034BUY BUY BUY
>>62615965If the dev is good enough they might be scouted into Cover game dev division.
https://x.com/DQkeshikeshi_PR/status/1724691201599955185?s=20>PekoMiko 6 stars>Lamy also 6 starsGen 5 schizo status?
>>62615984MORE HOMO GAMES LET'S GOOOOO
>>62616024A battle royal where you choose holos and go forth in a team of 3-5 in various maps like capture the flag or team death match. Various technologies and powers attributed to the Holos can function as Ults and such.
>>62616057scott also seems to stick to hlg from what ive been seeing and keeps on getting fights with that other named schizo there
>>62616010A reminder that Tokino Sora was among the top 3 most subbed Vtubers.
>>62616079Lmao expecting sister to make games
>>62616047>mori worthless>kiara worthlessThey've been getting golds.
>>62615769Kizuna Ai was so far away from the other vtubers, I would never believed that anyone would ever pass her. Even her second channel used for gaming had more subscribers than any other channel.
>>62616075why are foobs and noel LR trash?
>>62615878Toya is good as an event organizer and a memelord but anyone asking him to be a daisenpai is like out of their mindHe is similar to Kuzuha in how no kouhais can take them seriously due to their personality
>>62615648Marine started Umisea so she could get closer Gura and talk to her more. Which she succeeded at. Then management took it and used to shill stuff.
>>62616024Dating simulator
>>62615823T o T
>>62616034wtf roboqlo did it
>>62615857
>>62616079It's funny, in a situation like this, devs will stick to what sells. Maybe someone will try homos early but if they don't sell, no one will make a game for them.
>Cover unveil their Game Dev Support program>Their first title is literally Holo PARADECan't make this shit upAlso obligatory thread BGM:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0usYxw3pko
>>62615781they're gonna get all the gacha money
>>62615522>Niji Battle Royale>Hololive You die, I die, we all die
there better not be any stealth homo shilling in that game
>>62615815>Does it never cross their mind the shit got done to other livers could happen to their favourite?Unironically yes which is why some sisters sperged out in twitter when the AR live got cancelled because they thought it would never happen to them and tried to blame the girls like Selen Pomu or Millie as the cause for cancellation.
>>62616024Idol simulator.
>>62616126It's always good to see fans work be rewarding.
>>62615522They used to be #1 in JP and were the rising stars in EN but they got kicked off their pedestal in Japan and they fucked up hard in EN so they're extra bitter about things.
>>62616005Does Rin not stream anymore? She was the original endurance hag that would stream 6+ hours a day.
>>62616024Check what game is popular these days and try to replicate it on your favorite game engine with hololive assets.
>>62616024something like idol manager
>>62616024Genshin Impact but hololive. Remember me in a few years when you are enjoying your retirement in your gold plated yacht travelling to your private island.
>>62615894Tbf, there was some truth to it at the time. Mito was a rising megastar and with the Ai clone scandal happening not long after, many had Le Goblina picked as Ai's successor. Hell, Hololive was barely even the 3rd best corpo in the industry and with .Live imploding in on itself, they kinda had a reason to think like that. They really were THE vtubing company at the time. Of course COVID came, some dog girl started playing doom, a pink girl said nigga, and some shark girl said "a" and the rest is history.
>>62616024hololive vn with routes for every girl
>>62616176niji fumbling luxiem a gen that was basically on par with myth in popularity in their heyday is fucking insane
dudes probably hoping they don't remember his little sperg out right now
>>62616024Time to copy Nintendo
>>62615841>>62615857>>62615903wait does this only relate to actual games and not mods or do i have to register mods as well? just curious since im working on a hololive starsector mod.
>>62616160We have know about this game for a good amount of time. Sounds like you are a newfag or want to shitpost.
>>62616189RPG/DND games are always kind-of popular
>>62616158To be fair it was the girls' fault.
>>62616089She was barely in the top 10 and at least she has over a million subscribers. My old oshi Shizurin has barely gained 100k subscribers since prior to the pandemic.
>>62616024RPGM like Black Souls with rape scenes but some deep lore(if you aren't a clipwatcher that is), like Pekora having the property of transform other people into Pekoras if they eat her flesh.
Cover really say: Fuck perm, we gonna license our own game to play it on stream
>>62616079LMAO. They will only get a thank you from "homobeggars"
https://twitter.com/HoloCureGame/status/1724704436562608345https://twitter.com/HoloCureGame/status/1724704436562608345https://twitter.com/HoloCureGame/status/1724704436562608345
>>62616216unless mito somehow passed kizuna in terms of subs their top vtuber claim was pure bs
>>62616237Looks like it's just games to be put on steam. Doesn't seem like you have to register it but if you want to sell the game on steam, go through this.
>>62616258Someone need to make HoloMaster Duel
>>62616237actual games, they have less control with mods since it is also involving IP of the main game being modded
>>62616186Last i checked she only had 10 streams or so in September. She slowed down for sure. But this post is more about Mito who's a rarity nowadays and Deron who's been away on surgery break for a month now.
>>62616024Muse dash ripoff with Holo music
>>62616024What is your goal? If you want popularity, something cute looking and somewhat casual? Just make sure it fit Holomems' taste, so they will play it on streamFrom that point, it's instant success
>>62616245nah it was a mix of them since luca like selen didnt do their reps as well which is why he was the only luxiem that didnt criticize the cancellation
>>62615991It's Kiara's gold today anon
>>62616150>>62615920 >>62616029 >>62616123 >>62616210They are afraid
>>62616148Covet is really dumb not for making their own gacha yet.
>>62616273They told the dude about this when he had a talk with them.
>>62616201There's a hololive patch already
>>62616223if he still updates Smol Ame to this day, he'll just add homos in there, and no one will ever play it again
>>62616273It's over
>>62616237Nah, this is only if you wanna put your games on steam, if you're doing a mod they don't care
>>62616273Kay Yu killing rrats faster than sisters can type
>>62616024rpg with gura and mumei as navigators
>>62616322Funny, Anykuro crushes fan works and exploits them. Cover creates an environment for them to thrives together with Hololive. I wonder if Pebble Jame creator will get in on this.
>>62615627Reminds me of that time he no-scope sniped Towa on the jump which later became the play of the tournament
>>62616024>>62616304i second this. with the amount of music Hololive shits on a daily basis, they have a huge enough discography to make a full Rhythm Game out of it.and no one had attempted this, so take the opportunity
>>62616340I'm almost certain this is part of what came up during his meeting with Cover. He had that statement ready well ahead of time.
>>62616224Nintendo doesn't make games anymore. They prefer to shill them.
>>62616024Autobattler like super auto pets, super auto idols, with cute art and good mechanics would probably be pretty popular.
>>62616176The only relevant clips that gained any traction is Shizurin’s Country Roads clip and Gibera’s GTA nigga kerfuffle. Rin ignored any English speakers and so did Era. And then Miko’s clip, which came after, actually grabbed on to the opportunity and the rest is history. Nijisanji has always squandered any potential English support. NijiEN only being popular with the SEA crowd only cemented that legacy. The only westerners who like NijiEN are mostly unironic furries.
>>62616295>Deron who's been away on surgery breakWhat surgery? Barely watch her, but her lewds are one of my favourites
>>62616322>looks like dogshithe wanted to say "looks like chinese game" but probably would hurt his fellow nijifans if he did
>>62616237Where will you put that mod up when you're done? I'll make sure to check for it later.
>>62615522Hololive's equal treatment of all members means that the fans don't view the other girls as competitors. One of the results of this is that fans across the company are aware of all the times that a member has gotten screwed by management and their fuckups, but doesn't lay the blame at the feet of the girls. Best example of this would be the Holocaust, and how everyone was fucking livid at management for letting it happen, Capcom for being niggers, and management again for permanently destroying Subaru's archives instead of blaming Mio for it.
>>62616223I haven't forgotten Kevin.
>>62616371>Funny, Anykuro crushes fan works and exploits themDont remind me I still remember that time they threatened some exid fans when they tried to make their own bday merch since anycolor didnt release one
>>62615850He didn't really confirm anything All he said was that it's interesting to see how outside people speculate Vtuber's income when he himself knows the real numbers Also iirc he mentioned at another occasion that his voice packs and influencer marketing stuff sell so well that SC is not really significant anymore
>>62616396There's https://nullrefrepro.itch.io/hinotori-rhythm but it only has four songs
>>62616338>>62616284>>62616280oh ok then good to know.>>62616443yeah but dont expect it til next year jan at the earliest since kind of a side project done by 2 guys.
>>62616398Yeah likely he was approached and given the opportunity of having Holocure be one of the first games published under HoloIndie but as he said he did not want the pressure that comes from being an "official game" or from having a paid game.
>>62616024Holos May Cry. Maybe a farming sim where Yu uses the Fan mascots to help run it. Please add a dancing carrot to whatever you make
They updated derivative works guidelines for use in games. Looks like it's only ok now if the game goes through the new HoloIndie system.
>>62615422What do you even count as a unit? Suisei/Mori have a 24M cover and a 8M original and barely interacted since, Startend has a 14M cover but no originals, Ayafubumi has a 4.6M original, Suisei/Towa has a 10M cover, OKFAMS has a 5.4M cover, Myth has a 6.3M original, Blue Clapper has 7.8M, MiComet has an 11M cover, IRyS has a 1.4M cover with herself...and thats just from a quick glance
>>62616438Throat surgery that has been confirmed successfulShe'll still need some time to rest, apparently
Kiara didn't get enough valid submissions for her meme stream with hachaamahttps://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1724706410171400241>heya!!!>I went through all of them, but a biiiig part were copyrighted things that I mostly cant use ;;>so last call, if you have some more ideas for memes, and can whip up something quickly!>pls try to keep it copyright free and maybe something from before the recent 1-2 months would be cool!!! >most of the ones i have now are really recent ones only so having more older incidents made into memes would be interesting!!
>>62616522Cover became an official game publisher.
>>62616522nah it's only if you want your game to be published under the "holoindie" flag and want to monetize your games on steam.
>>62616024Proseka but with Hololive>A lot of characters with multiple outfits, accesories, and hairstyles>A lot of solo orisongs and group songs>Some characters have storylineKanataso's story definitely belong to the 25ji gang
>>62616533Sounds rough, same problem as Marine and Suisei with those polyps things?
>>62616024A roguelike
>>62616544Koyo loves her dad.
>>62616398https://twitter.com/holocuredev/status/1724705734909382957>I was extremeeeeely excited when they told me about this initiative.>I've already decided that HoloCure will stay exactly as is, so this doesn't affect us (and Cover is 100% okay with that), but I'm super happy that all fellow fan-game devs now have official support. Massive W
>>62616276Again, it was hubris but it did have something to it. It's like how people keep projecting some new and upcoming star as the next Jordan/LeBron/Shaq only to get butt fucked by some fat kid from Serbia. Pic very related
Why did it took them 3 years to realize this would've been a great idea during 2020?
>>62616542this is why is better to ask artists to make me memes instead, coco always had to pay for her shitpost reviews
>>62616542its because most of the submissions were from retards who had homos and non holos in them
>>62616307I respect Luxiem for not coping and crying like the girls who were massive bootlickers.
>>62616176You can't be the #1 corpo with mixed-gender group
>>62616596Corpo paperworksCopyrights are serious business for them
>>62615776>Popular>Doesn't even reached the top 10The DQ Gacha games that are actually popular are DQ walk and DQ champions. This is DQ Keshi Keshi is a puzzle game and it gets overshadowed by other SE products.
When are we gonna get OVAs of Hololive? Cover should've poured money into that that hiring shit Tempus managers and Tempus.
>>62616223i forgot what was smol ame about, is is the platforming game?
Release Dec. 1
>>62616598someone should had posted the tierlist pics that sometimes gets posted here and they're left figuring out what i means
>>62616599reason why twitter memes is always a bad idea
>>62616605i guess you don't count Vox as a member of luxium then
>>62616613>Copyrights are a serious businessOnly when it doesn't hurt their bottom line. Now, yen dropped so hard they need to find a way for more free promotions and revenues lol. Touhou and Fate were fine years ago.
>>62616642yeah. was a fun game, but the level design and camera work is all over the place.
>>62616640https://youtu.be/euPfAilSpuUWe did.
This might be the most Nijisanji image I have EVER seen. Everything about this scream "Yep look like Nijisanji"
>>62615292>He tries to be as supportive as possible to everyonerorurumao
>>62616578Everyone’s too busy sucking off Victor Wembanyama’s dick now, even though his team just got blown out by 30 points and ole Vic had a shit game.
>>62616663No, they shat all over anycolorThis girls were like>*sniff* ...it's just postponed... nothing is wrong trust management*sniff*And the guys called anycolor out despite their own fans being bigger bootlickers.
>>62616599to be fair, homobeggar memes are quite rare on the tag, at least on my timeline
>>62616605lol lmao
>>62616696https://youtu.be/TGJ9-1LWFtENene, Haachama and Polka would do something like the bottom half. If this 8s what niji is, I can see why is in decline
>>62616577well, isn't he working on something BTS with cover?
>>62616605>I respect Luxiem-Stopped reading. Homo detected
>>62616024Just use card games, casino games, and basic board games. Have a really good artist draw the girls in cute, lewd outfits as gacha
>>62616702anon kanae was talking about shit other livers were saying about salome due to her getting suddenly popular while others were stagnant for yearsibrahim actually commented on this as well aside from the whole "i hope nijisanji supports her since she might be the equivalent of what coco did to hololive"
>>62616657It would be even worse on Reddit:
That Kevin guy is having another existential crisis. This is just too funny.
>>62616712Sure. Vtuber culture is in decline, right?
>>62616712nah vox did a 180 later unlike mysta while shu went into depression mode
>>62616024Sakura War but with Hololive. Everyone get their own Mecha
>>62615601Well... most of the fans just left when the talent did.Some jumped ship to Hololive.And some just stopped watching Nijisanji.The ones that stayed had no choice but to get subsumed by the greater company culture.
>>62616702the fact that he went out of his way to address it and be reasonable only proved that anon's point
>>62616745It's mostly about the chaotic zoomer graphic>Words everywhere>Bunch of bright color>Whacky image>People going "pog"It's the Nijisanji style
>>62616712If the girls said anything there would’ve been retaliation from management. It’s fine when the bros do it.
My fucking gaming library is gonna be nothing but Holos and 2hu now
>>62615733> before> after
>>62616761would be moderated harder and remove the not holos and kiara would easily ignore the homo ones
>>62616797A style that can be easily copied.
>>62616024Final Fantasy 8's card game, triple triad, but with holos as the cards
>>62616712Yeah well it didn't do tha bois too many favors did it?
>>62616801Basically this, Its why someone like Kuzuha can get away on rare ocassions he shits on anycolor but if any of the people in the lower caste did like id they get nuked
>>62616764Post some screenshots or fuck off
>>62616024I would love a r18 holo dating sim.
Based
>>62616696>>62616745it's more like the usual japanese magazine design. they always like to overcrowd it with stuff
>>62616024Just make bejewelled/candy crush, but Hololive. The girls would almost certainly play it on stream and you'd almost certainly get a lot of people try it.
>>62616869I kinda looks like those old anime magazines back in 2003
>>62616599it didn't have much if you sorted through top but they were still there
>>62615878I think it came to a head with the Roa and Meiro case, because livers were OPENLY picking sides with one or the other.Roa side people telling Meiro to chill, Meiro side people telling Roa to not harass her kouhai.In hololive we only see this type of infighting in Amongus or Rust streams.
https://youtu.be/kGGpvySEfO4?si=-Nk3VsHRCfFHs7ucTIANNYA IT'S YOUR TIME
>>62616817>Bragging about 33k viewerIt was really a different time
>>62616865I hope that Flare game gets published by Cover ruru
>>62616896holy shit i'm gonna puke
>>62616922FLARE FFS JUST IGNORE THE FUCKING BOW, IT HAS GUNS BY DEFAULT
>>62616922Flare will pressure the approval committee to remove the bow as weapon
>>62616922Putting Nui Nui Quest on Steam would do wonders honestly
https://twitter.com/tiannya_/status/1724701418311856171?t=I9kFId7gCy2nyjPqKOr3UQ&s=19YESYESYES
>>62616896>Meme>Literally just stolen pics with no edit whatsoeverCreatively bankrupt
>>62616896Just take memes from /here/It's gonna be 10 times better than this fucking shit atleast
>>62615578only chumbuds have this problem, which is probably why Gura is trying to filter them
>>62615462Matsuri...
cover is too nice, scarily so
>>62616896god i hate this faggot so much
>Releasing new game from Holo indie>Have free promotion with Holomem just do their own streamEasiest money in my lifeMan, it's smart
>>62615805Kay you is a do it for the passion type.
>>62616945>>62616992thinking normies will like weeb/holo games kek
>>62615441hmmwell with Youtube continuing to tighten restrictions, JP twitch indies or smaller corpos might be your best bet when it comes to your type of content...
>>62616992depends if your games is good enough to be noticed by a holo
>>62617011Neither of those anons implied that at all
>>62616897Pretty much. Imagine the Coco situation, but a chunk of (nonCN) Hololive decides to side with the chinks. That's the equivalent kind of fanbase fracture that the Roa-Meiro situation caused.
>>62615903I mean I’d have happily dropped like 20-30 bucks for HoloCure or NuiNuiQuest so.
>>62616954i tried posting vt memes on the tag but if what kiara said was true about copyright autism, there's less chance she'll even consider them.
>>62617011Implying normies won't slurp gacha shit but with holos Roru rumao
>>62615597> still stuck at 219kwtf is wrong with her channel?
>>62617011I mean...
nice
>>62616897>I think it came to a head with the Roa and Meiro case, because livers were OPENLY picking sides with one or the other.That and the fact that the drama was the smoking gun for cliques in niji.
And the Nijiseethe starts flowing
>>62617068>hogwarts legacyjust face it, it's a mediocre game
>>62617087oyvey
>>62615756Holy shit this is HUGE
Well anon? You rike?
>>62617087Plesse understand riku yacht need to be diamond plated
>>62616480There’s also https://kbhgames.com/game/deadbeat-rhythm-game
>>62615876this is for games that want to be monetisable.
>>62617105The only thing I don't like is how long it took for you to set this up Yagoo.
Posting all hololive fangames here with possibility that many devs from these games will reach out to Cover eventuallyhttps://softdevwu.dev/hologames/index.php
i vow to buy HoloParade just to make this program a success
I just realized the tempiss VN will probably be published by holoindie too
>>62617105Not until you completely remove the homos, Yagoo
>>62617066she got the monthly cull before she got the 12subs she needed anon, now she needs 1012 subs which is a shame since she was excited on celebrating it in streamIm actually curious why non of her fans or any nijifags have organized support from her since if this was holo she would get shilled all over like with aki.
>>62617102it's free advertisement for Cover
>>62617087>sell hologames>company/dev gets the money>holo plays the game>more people buy the gamei only see it as a win
>>62617137it'smade by cover staff so i doubt it classified as "holo Indie"
>>62616007Not just that, it's a shame that most of the official games still aren't on Steam
>>62617099I actually like the gameplay, but the story is retarded and ruined it for me.
>>62616647Basically battle cats but hololive. I approve, and I know Pekora will as well.
>>62617154Hololive*
>>62617176It's just a label, not a category
>>62617160This feels like another >"Cover sold out too many seats that means their losing money!"
>>62617076>USD 3.99Cheap. Cheaper than most gacha's monthlies
>>62617137would be weird considering it was done in house by staff and would not fall under indie
>>62617087From the brain trust that bought you “if you sell out a concert you go into debt”
>>62617099lack of multiplayer and quidditch
>>62617053As a fan I'd be devastated by such infighting. If there were such a public feud in Hololive it'd really make me want to stop paying attention to 90% of both sides.Is this why Holoans try so hard to force that sort of thing? Antis have been pushing a Raden/Kanade feud on for 2 weeks.
>>62617011They like Holocure
>>62617180Because ZUN still sell the game as CD in Reitaisai as per traditionYou have no idea, I once read an article about a Touhou CD (The original one sold by ZUN in event) valued up to millions of dollars for collectors
>>62617087kek
>>62617258>>62617087Why are Nijinegroes like this ?
>>62617236I do appreciate that the JP Doujin/indie scene still does that kind of physical stuff. It's just disappointing that he isn't better about doing Steam (or even GOG) copies. It is a massive limiter on growth.
>>62617258>Anycolor raping their fanwork ecosystem with C&D's is good for their profits and brand!
>>62617292I found it lol. It was 1.5 million yen, much cheaper than I remembered, but not a small sum eitherhttps://x.com/BEEP_akihabara/status/1065781839623647232?s=20
>>62615743Yes, irl too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33wEgKKhsUI
>>62617258Is this "selling out a concert is bad" anon's sister?
>>62615756Oh this must've been what Kay Yu was talking about back in May
>>62617258>>62617087And then you wonder why we call them nijiniggers
why is zeta so sex?https://twitter.com/itoridayo/status/1718420143066562758
>>62616542After skimming through that hashtag, they should just tell everyone their memes were shit and pick the best ones from Coco's old streams
>>62615805>HolocureKay already stated why. He said he wanted to keep it purely as a passion project, and stated he was offered to make it paid by Cover, which he turned down himself, in person.
>>62617292>GrowthFrom the beginning the entire franchise was a doujin series by one guy. Not like he need it to be a massive multimedia empire or sthReitaisai in the first place was entirely organized by fan
>>62617258Touhou still stand strong though
>>62617327ExperienceWith me
>>62617226>Is this why Holoans try so hard to force that sort of thing?These "people" (groups?) dedicate a lot of time trying to spread holo vs holo, holofans vs holofans and holo vs holofans. They obviously want to drive people out of and create rifts within the community. Thankfully they never really succeed.
Another big W for cover
>>62613464>but the aiba getting flak from nijifans isnt exactly new >>62610847>some jap nijifag compared her to honhima on why she got unfair treatmentThat highlights why the Niji “tickets / numeric meritocracy” is retarded as fuck. I love that dumb retard but everything Honhima “achieved” was due to the fact she was the fastest growing vtuber in pretty much the whole industry in 2019 and early 2020. That’s what earned her the nendo, first in Nijisanji alongside Kuzuha, before even Mito. Someone inside Nijisanji clearly saw that Aiba was the strongest presence in any 3D live she could participate and for MORE THAN OBVIOUS reasons they would include her at every opportunity. Nijisanji themselves created the problem here: their whole system is based on who is currently getting the most numbers (mostly of subs) and, worse, that creates a “ticket”, a liability that can be redeemed even when it no longer makes sense, a long way into the future.Measuring thing is a good thing but making a blind system based on unrelated numbers is dumb as fuck.
>>62617226Yes. The girls know it too, which is why they circled the wagons on Rushia's situation.
>>62617258Do they not realize that sharing 10 dollars is better than not sharing 0 dollars?
>>62615805Kay talked about how Cover asked if he wanted to monetize it with their blessing, but her didn't want to because he wants it to stay a passion project separate from his "work".And well.. I've seen how entitled people who "donate" to patreon are when it comes to timely delivery of content, even if the donation is entirely voluntary. A lot of "donators" treat it like spending money to eventually get a product, not like being a "patron" of an artist that does art stuff.
>>62617258>N-no the money MUST go to the companyNijisanji Ch fan detected
>>62616744He has mentioned getting holo commissioned work a couple of times
>>62615756YAGOO is ZUN confirmed!
>>62617367names will change to Wover corp
>>62615804> beggars> ever giving upkekthere's a reason holofans want the entire branch nuked anon, even if they might have liked some of the homos
>>62617320Yea, he was definitely one of the blokes Cover consulted on this, and had Kay agreed, Holocure would've been the headline game for this program.
So Hololive is gonna try to be the new touhou? Will it work? Do we want it?
>>62617258What are they trying to deflect from this time?
>>62617389YAGOO =ZUNdiscuss
>>62616936What's her fucking problem with the bow anyway? It's not "masculine" or "cool", or is it just her autism?
>>62616237try contacting them, I'm sure Cover just completely forgot the existence of mods
>>62617372the tickets thing is not just subs from what livers have hinted about it since they also said merch and sponsorships other metrics
>>62617327She's springy and young.
>>62617425flare is an sjw elf who doesnt want elves to be corelated to bows or forest magic
>>62616322>Make a platform for fans to legally monetize their games>ExploitedI don't get it.
>>62617425stop being racist, there can be assassin elves or cleric elves too, not everyone should be an archer elf you filthy human pig
I sure love me some Wamy Gold with a dash of suisei's sexy bodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj2euAGNarM
>>62617381He already has to deal with people asking him to redo AZKi's moveset and spritework entirely and that entitled bitch Anya pretty much demanding he update everything to her current "memes" (she isn't known for a damn thing but the fact her nihongo is considered top tier among the side branches). And the Sanalite schizos are going to have a meltdown if he doesn't handle the Promise update the "respectful" way they would like as well.Combine all that with having to figure out who gets paid how much for what work they put into the game (he did have help) and no wonder he doesn't want to deal with monetization.
>>62617068Ah yeah, when I think "hogwarts legacy" I think "AA game".
>>62617416It already is, kinda has been for a while now
>>62616024just remember not to sperg out if you don't get picked
>>62617258>more money and support for their employees
>>62617521this is just another holo audition but for game devs kek
>>62617420maybe the aiba drama? or just general seethe at holo
>>62617471They are afraid
>>62616992You know it's kind of funny that both sides of the transaction get "free advertising" as a big positive of the scheme.
>>62616144PARADEARADE D A R A P
>>62614873Nijisanji is a black company, so it attracts/molds talents in a way where they priorities their gain above everything else.This forms cliques and a hirarchy it is quite similar to tribalism here actually, these small group in nijisanji don't get along and bitch about every small thing the other party does/gets.
>>62615422Why don’t you fucking go on YouTube and try to figure it out for yourself? Do you have eyeballs?
>>62615161>Why is nijisanji unable to give every talent 3d showcase/live/outfits/accessorieskek, they have about 180+ active channels in their JP branch alone (including the surviving ID and KR), at a two per week basis they would take almost two years to go through each of them for anything they would want to give all of them. Couple to that the fact they’re still accelerating and you get the why
Bae and Korone collab on the 19th, so the teaser Bae put up is probably a collab cover/OG song with Korone.
>>62617490>Brown skin>Want to be an assasin elf, which is a dark elf's profession>But doesn't admit to be a dark elfWhat is her fucking problem ???
>>62617355I'm being a bit bad with word choice. I think it would be nice if more people played the original games, which is the growth I want - 2hu as a brand is so much larger than the games that I doubt putting them on steam would significantly impact anything.
>>62617420It's not deflection. It's a retarded attempt to paint something good Cover is doing as bad.
>>62617584BAESED
>>62617590Incredible amounts of autism
>>62617087>>62617258>The fans exploited Cover>>62616322>Cover exploited fans
HOLOCHADS WE CANNOT STOP WINNING
>>62617590Because she doesn't get her dark skin from a dark elf heritage, she got it from being the daughter of an anthropomorphic cup of coffee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKC3bh4d3ucSo, how are you feeling about FIFA streams Indo bros?
>>62617608The real reason is because ZUN lose the source code for his games. EoSD and PCB are not on Steam because of it
>>62617425She an american elf
>>62617652rearry?
>>62617648OLAY
>>62617292?? Most of the official games are on Steam. The only ones that aren’t, he literally is not able to do because he doesn’t have the code for them or something. It goes as far back to POFV.The past two mainline titles were released on steam around release date, things have changed a lot in the past few years
>>62617584Will she finally incline?With how much cover is shilling herIf only they shilled mumei/fauna/IRyS as muchHow much would they have inclined?
>>62617258>EmployeeKek whoever posted this is a sly nigger, I see what you did there.
>>62616922I feel bad for flareanon...
>>62615903This is a deep pocketed fanbase that sends empty red superchats, what do you think?I would easily pay 10 bucks for Holocure, it’s a good game and, it might not be all of 600 euros but I would like Kay to feel monetarily secure to continue doing it for fun
>>62617665Yes, unironicallyEarly games are pretty much close to being lost media, thank god the fan keep it around for him
>>62617381In fairness also the lack of needing to commit to a hard deadline or actual buyers/patrons is allowing Kay to have as much timr as he wants to implement whatever large feature he feels like is interesting. It's partly why we're getting a new dungeon crawler roguelike mode in the next update on top of the Casino.
>>62617668Yeah I didn't know he lost the source code for the older games. That is fair, he is uploading the new games on release to Steam.
>>62617584Hakorone.
>>62617279Nijiniggers doing so poorly they are literally whoring themselves on the side
This will become Cover's VTA for game devs.
>>62617680>600 eurosKEK
>>62617509But all of Council+IRyS are already in the game
>>62617715Anon vta flopped and died
>>62617053>>62617226To be fair, an hour in /vt/ will lead you to that as well
Do you guys think Nijisanji will launch their own version with Rocksuki as the first game?
>>62617509> (she isn't known for a damn thing but the fact her nihongo is considered top tier among the side branches)It was kind of annoying how Kiara literally told her that the CEO stream was in English, and halfway through she would start every slide talking in Japanese and THEN translating into English, and Kiara had to remind her again.
>>62617416Fangame output and quality was already staggering for what Hololive is so this is just a net positive that's going to promote further growth for the overall fan game ecosytem.
>>62617735
>>62617372>>but the aiba getting flak from nijifans isnt exactly newYeah I remember her getting some slight flack last year when she said something negative about the music festival going into managements hands since she said that it would lead to a loss of freedom only reason why it got burried was that there were bigger events in jp like mayuzumi graduating or axia sperging out that burried it.
>>62617730It created some new sexos so it served its purpose for me
Cover now being the publisher of these games also means that they never have to ask the maker for permissions for the talents to play it
>>62617735>RocksukiFucking sucked and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
>>62615756Typical Cover win.
>>62617226>>62617364>Muh HoloanLolLmao evenJust mention males and Hololive fanbase will happily going at each other's throat for free
>>62617671You mistakenly bought into the meme that you can just coast by because Myth exists and has first mover privileges no matter how much effort they put into their career. Nope, gotta show a willingness to work hard for the company to get the gigs for everyone else. You have school work? You have pets at home? You have other personal issues to deal with that prevent it? Then you don't get the gig, simple as that. And cover songs are paid for by the talents themselves, this isn't a Cover promotion.
>>62617762Yup, they even have it written in the guidelines
>>62617762It think that is part of the Derivative Work guideline. If they publish you, they get perms automatically.
>>62617735Why selen never shill that game, that literally her game.
>>62617680>600 euros
>>62617724>But all of Council+IRyS are already in the gameYes but they need a name change now. "Promise + Council" or something like that.
>>62616522does this mean individuals can still create stuff on their own?
This is one of Cover first step to infiltrate the gaming market, as stated in financial report
>>62617735didnt the owner bail on that game after getting a c&d from anycolor?
>>62617515Touhou is Hololive's sworn enemy and is the reason we were cast out of /jp/.
>>62617834Yes. If you don't want to be part of the program, the rules for (You) are the old ones
>>62617226>Antis have been pushing a Raden/Kanade feud on for 2 weeksWait, what? The fuck did I miss?
>>62617735Hahaha kusa
>>62617521>You can't make games to shit on the homoWell, half of /vt/ filtered right on the spot
>Holoearth launches>all Holo Indie games can be launched or played in gamegames meta verse indeed
>>62617698>IsraelToo bad she's an Indog. I can't fucking fapcto that
>>62617386Chances he gets the opportunity to be a Holomama?
>>62617798>holostars>part of hololiverumao
https://note.cover-corp.com/n/ne9a79eca8b99https://note.cover-corp.com/n/ne9a79eca8b99https://note.cover-corp.com/n/ne9a79eca8b99https://note.cover-corp.com/n/ne9a79eca8b99https://note.cover-corp.com/n/ne9a79eca8b99https://note.cover-corp.com/n/ne9a79eca8b99OVERLAP RULES UPDATED
>>62617860You can't be direct, but you can hide it with subtext
>>62617798I mean you can actually do the same thing with kuzuhas fanbase if you mention his old pre niji groomer
>>62617549That’s what we call a virtuous cycle
>>62617226> If there were such a public feud in Hololive it'd really make me want to stop paying attention to 90% of both sides.There's a reason Hololive overtook Nijisanji not long after that incident anon.Gibara and then Lulu leaving was the clarion call.
>>62617881>Literally revert the change and go back to the old ruleLMAO
>>62617735Didn't Nijisanji effectively murder that game's development and chase the dev out? The last game Selen ever showed off that was centered around her and NijiEN was the one she fucking produced herself.
>>62617881>overlap only applies to same branchYES, TOTAL HOMO DEATH
>>62617881From now on, we will change the rules to prohibit duplicate broadcasting of debuts and first 3D performances only if they belong to the same group, and ask talents to watch them at the same time if possible.*Groups refer to "hololive", "hololive Indonesia", "hololive English", "HOLOSTARS", "HOLOSTARS English", and "hololive DEV_IS".We believe that these rules are difficult for the talent to communicate to the fans, and are likely to cause speculation among the fans.Therefore, we have decided to inform our fans about this change in this management letter.We will continue to strive to create better rules in line with changes in the environment.Nice, that means no need for the girls to stop for the homos
>>62617871Isn't he mostly an animator? I'm not sure the skills transfer.
>>62617881AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHOMOSISTERS DON'T LOOK
>>62617881>updatedits going back to the old rules which is what some anons have been saying for a while
>>62617934Man it was so obvious they pulled this shit just for Uproar 3D debut, and now they just go back to the old rule
>>626178812023 is the gift that keeps on giving
>>62617087that's an open falseflag anon, why is your bullshit meter so dogshit?
>>62617881You can't overlap debuts if they are part of your branch, but other branches are ok. HomoEN3 is not beating Vesper's record.
>>62617881TOTAL HOMO DEATH>TOTAL HOMO DEATHTOTAL HOMO DEATH>TOTAL HOMO DEATHTOTAL HOMO DEATH>TOTAL HOMO DEATH
>>62617881>>62617923Welp, that lasted what? Barely a year?
>>62617939His best work is in animation, but his artworks are also very good, he's shown how good a lot if you look at his media tab on twitter.
>>62617923so the overlap ban was only to push ID3/Promise?
>>62617881TOTAL HOMOBEGGARS DEATH
>>62617881>encourage more watchalongsfuck this shit they should ban it instead
>>62617923RIP holoID future debuts and 3D debuts numbers
>>62617881TOTAL HOMO GENOCIDE HOLOLIVE IS HEALING
>>62617881Jappppppppppp!
>>62617881I suspect Jap is the one whose been trying to get this through
>>62617193do you really think they won't include holo x homo games on this?this is just another step after HLZTL failed to push homos again
>>62617852nijifags pushing the raden got suspended because kanade leaked she had a male manager since apparently its illegal in hololive not knowing that matsuri has one as wellsome japs basically used that niji chat thing and some of the posters were nijifags like with the susiei one
>>62617965>>62617977>>62617980It was created "coincidentally" after Uproar 3D debut was announced last year (Literally just a few days after), use your brain
>>62617881literally unironically more gender and branch segregationbased
>>62617881BASED BASED BASED I FUCKING KNEEL JAP
>>62617974It's not about his artwork so much as his ability to come up with a good design. ZUN isn't a very good drawer, but his character design is on point.
>>62617881Well, DEV_IS...Do Stars actually get extra numbers? Re_Gloss 3D( or ID4 because of timezone) will be the first victim.
>>62617992>>62617995It's goomber
>>62617881Finally, i guess homo debut/3d gave no result in fact lower their viewership more than the past example would be astel anniversary.
>>62617977They probably wanted to be the rule going forward but retracted due to the backlash because holos like Pekora complained about it on stream.
>>62617965Almost a year for full corpo ban, but EN had it in place with Tempus 1. Remember that Gura mysteriously started her Minecraft at 9pm, right after Axel's debut ended
>>62617881You rike it Holochads ? I fight so much for this
>>62617671You know Bae literally admitted on stream that she funds most of her projects herself right? tell Mumei/Fauna/IRyS to start investing if you care so much, they make more money than Bae anyways
>>62617980you mean RIP regloss
>>62617992>>62617995>>62618014Still doubt me?
>>62617979quite the oppositewatchalongs were the loophole around this ruleso with it gone they can actually stream
>>62618033Pekora didn't complain about that though.
>>62618033FOR THE LAST TIME PEKORA DID NOT COMPLAIN. Manager probably asked her to explain it more throughouly on stream for people
>>62617996Good now fans can vote with their wallet to directly tell Cover and Game devs that they don't like Homos
>>62617881Well anons? You rike?
>>62618041Mr. Jap Man, I kneel.
>>62618002Yeah but it'll also affect future ID gens since they kinda share the same time zone as JP
>>62617881Tempus bros...
>>62617799He says as though the Myths getting opportunities aren’t the first and second for hours streamed in 2023 or Gura.
>>62618002Noel made a passive aggressive comment on Twitter when tempus2 made her delay her DS stream. She call it a campfire
>>62618074Its basically going back to the old rule where you can overlap but like in the past most of hololive would not probably overlap
>>62618017Oh, wasn't thinking of it like that. I'm pretty sure he has come up with at least decent designs before though. That probably limits his chances on being a mama though. He might be getting put in charge, or at least being made a member, of a new animated trailer/short/whatever for something Holo related then.
>>62617999I saw retards pushing this rrat here, calling Raden's short break a stealth suspension. It's not surprising it originated from the nijifags.>>62618034Yeah, I remember that. 2022 is looking more and more like a freak accident.
>>62618067Your son yagoo...
>>62618074Well you can't have everything I guess.
>>62618023Ironically no. Uproar 3D actually had less views than some of the previous Holostar senpai even with the benefit of the full ban.
>>62617881DEV_IS 3D debuts be looking grim
The funny truth is that the girls will not overlap any other girl debut anyway just to be respectful. This will exclusively ONLY affect homo debuts/3D debutsor the occasional ID overlap, as is traditionI bet this is the real reason but Cover can't say it without losing face
>>62617996>do you really think they won't include holo x homo games on this?that would be unironically grim since it would show that holoxhomo games earn less than holo exclusive ones
>>62618096The rule is still strictly limited to debut/3D debut btw
>>626180992022 was a bad year for holo fans anon
>>62618115Yep advent will demolish their 3D numbers.
>>62617881so they're finally admitting that the whole holopro push was retarded
>>62618096I still remember ID3 debut streams being overlapped like hell, just saying that it's gonna happen again with ID4. Thankfully ID3 3D debuts happened before the rule reverted
>>62618116Some of them overlapped ID3's debut.
Someone is having a bit too much fun with Pekora
>>62618116Basically like before uproar but most of the newfriends her that came with tempus here probably dont have any experience with that
>>62613903Really?
>>62617735I love how one spammer made this game into a meme /here/, but it's a complete unknown outside of this place anon.
>>62617850the statement implies that "groups" or "circles" are no longer allowed to create fan games unless they are part of this program.
Advent 3D debut will break hololive 3D debut record.
>>62617881Nearly a year to the day that Hololive fans proved how much we love fags
>>62615689My real issue with this is that the stream starts at 19:00 jst. Serious why? is too fucking early.
>DEV_ISwhat is the purpose of this branch? it just seems like they are cannibalizing themselves with a less marketable unit. or are they going to accelerate with two jp branches and have two jp gen debuts a year?
>>62617881ARMIS SOON
December 2022, a new face joined Hololive. Since then the company objective changed significantly in 2023. I wonder who could that be ...
>>62617925see>>62617848basically got the same treatment as the id fans who wanted to make their own merch or the luxiem fan cafeanything not making niji money is kill on sight
>>62618116Hey, the girls being able to not have to stop/end/delay streams for the homos again is a big win, even if it is going to affect ID and possibly EN/Device events a bit. Moral of the story is that I FUCKING KNEEL JAP
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1724638419882770754Niji x Lee collabIncludes Rosemi and Maria
Shinkiro's growth rate has dipped so low that its hourly view growth rate is going to cross over with Bishopai's quite soon. Bishopai took months for its growth to decay to this level. It's going to take Shinkiro 3 days
>>62618192Only regarding copyrights and monetizationBy joining Cover's program, you get to monetize your fangames freely, and in exchange they will have power over your game
More clip numbers, Yesterday Edition. Gonna dump these while the scraper is ongoing.Split today is 16.1M(+850k) HL to 7.6M(-1.1M) NJ.Recent split is 5.1M(+700k) HL to 1.1M(-950k) NJ.
>>62617881fucking FINALLYno more stopping of streams for homosthey might unironically be learning
Can't wait for holoEN to overlap tempiss 3D to death. Maybe add some JP too
>>62617881Watch Pekora overlap the next DEV_IS debut and get shitposted for weeks.
>>62618204on one hand I want him to be promoted to the overseas branch head, on the other hand he is doing a very good job as the EN producer...
>>62618204>No delivery
>>62618227Graph.
>>62618199Basically doing what that korean company is doingStellive = HololiveStardays = DEV_IS
>>62618222Jesas, is Gura cursed, or is NEAL forcibly deboosting it thanks to cunny?
>>62618222Yeah, it's a flop for Marine.
>>62618234The only JPs that stream around that time are Subaru and Koyori. Noel is rare and Korone marathon, I guess
>>62618222>collab with debuff shark>it's a debuffWooooooow how did Marine fall for this
>>62618234we will get new shitposting materialimagine if Fauna or Mumei refuse to overlap their debutsat the same time, imagine if they did
>>62618227Yesterday's more clip numbers by Source.
>>62618236Kek imagine if she actually do that just to make a point>DEV_IS a totally a different branch as stated by Cover, so HoloJP is allowed to overlap themIronically she would be on the right
>>62617977> anon forgot about this
>>62618163>pekora brownieoh nyo
>>62618261I think marine channel is giga debuff. If she put this on gura's channel the algorithm will do the rest.
>>62618192Only if you want to make money. You're free to make free fangames, but this is an option if you think you can make something good enough to be worth paying for.
>>62618276The holo3 debut would most likely be at 8pm EST. Those two don't stream at that time
>>62618227Yesterday's more clip numbers by language.ja: 10.9M(+570k) to 6.7M(-940k)en: 3.9M(+200k) to 730k(-160k)
>>62617881will this kill the ID overlap buff for 3D streams?
>>62618192only if you monetize it anon which is what the old rules were
>>62618193>Fuwamoco70-80k>Bijou50-55k>Shiori50k>Nerissa50k
>>62617881Bless you goomba
>>62618260the song doesnt show in some countries search results, also marine's 3d live and song didnt even hit trending on yt, and both had gura naked animated so...
>>62618222Vtuber MV have no higher expectation after Loli Kami, thanks to TikTok.Better start selling the album like Suisei.
>>62618304Graph.
>>62618307You didn't even click on it or read the thread
My Hologame search compilation post was certainly timely. With the new guidelines and introduction of Holoindie I'm gonna be searching more for eye catching fangames that are in the works.
>>62618192Anon the new program is a way for indie fan games to get monetization since they couldnt in the old system.
>>62618328...add it to the list of times youtube has showcased how much they hate hololive.
>hana macchia fansly stream thread on the 'logI LOVE MORAL DEGRADATION
>get the most girly member of Re:gloss>make her play a manly womanizer character, because her voice is a bit deeperhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9AP3N770wAI hope they give Ao a makeover alt, like Flare and Hisui got, but Hololive is known to really push it's base branding nowadays.
Btw, I love how people /here/ fixated on the males but conveniently ignored how JP almost overlapped Myth's 3D as well
>>62618282READ ANON READ >>62617923
>>62618355>He/himDon't forget the cherry
>>62618116Honestly yeah, ReGloss has basically been subsumed into the JP box, so there'll be internal peer pressure to not overlap their 3D streams.Not so much for EN, ID or homo streams though.
>>62618344Please post them here when you have the time, I'll make sure to turn them into catalog threads
>>62618222The youtube algo is totally broken, it's first day views should have pushed it in the algo but instead it completely died. The only way to do well on youtube now is getting noticed outside of youtube funnily enough.
>>62618368Anon? DEV_IS and JP are listed as different groups
Tempiss status?
Hololive leading the charge is the only saving grace of this industry desu
>>62618260deboosting because it showed a naked cartoon girlmuse asia had a spat with youtube recently due to this since neal almost didnt allow them to post mushoku tensei 2 due to sylph sexy scenes
did they finally realize that it is fucking retarded to stop delivering your best product, to advertise your vastly inferior product no one cares about? Maybe even forcing your customer to check out the products of your competition in the meantime?
>>62617881Cover listen to their fans!
>>62618362Ao just need better fitting clothes. They fucking had Rika/Chili giving them the blueprint for the cool looking girl but for some cursed reason they completely fumbled on the clothing department.
>>62618251EN director's job is not easy anononce the branch is fixed and EN4 comes out, she will be back to streaming regularly
>>62618017ZUN have a bunch of godly design. Unironically somehow he succeeded in creating girl characters that appeal to female before Cover
>>62618204This is the most retarded shit you’ve tried to push. What do you think a project manager does?
>>62618222No tiktok dance = no repeat views
>>62618406Yep this is Marine's fault for being too horny.
>>62618418>regularlythrice per month is not "regularly"Maybe she should do what people rrat about Ame and actually go to management role insteadWho knows, she can be EN A-Chan, but you know, actually anti-male
>>62618383It would be funny if the JP girls didn't overlap HoloIDEN, but summoned overlap Pandemonium for the Homos
>>62618393Getting too popular too fast is a debuff with YT anti-rabbit hole algoNotice how recently, all the songs that have good growth also never have explosive start? They grow steadily to 1 million then keep growing
>>62618418EN numbers looking kinda grim though.
>>62618396yeah, so why should pekora make a point? everyone can do it normally
>>62618415You don't even see the clothes in most streams, it's how she forces the archetype that puts me off.Hair doesn't work for that droopy face either. She probably needed sharper eyes like this.
>>62618350>song does shit>NEAL IS PERSONALLY OPPRESSING MEWhy are chumbuds like this?
>>62618421it's really easy to create characters that appeal to womenthere are 3 types of female characters, sometimes overlapping:- cute- cool- sexyin general males love: cute, sexyin general females love: sexy, coolif you want to appeal to both: sexy
>>62618453lol pekora will overlap ENID. Stop being delusional.
>>62618462To be fair, Pekora also overlapped a bunch of events of other people before, so I guess that's why anons like to bring her upYou can probably ask the Peko schizo for that list
What is stopping the girl for choosing to set up a relay for future other-branch debuts?
>>62618418But Jap isn’t the director of EN. He’s a project manager. The director of EN did a interview not even that long ago in Covers notes.
>>62616024Eh i was thinking maybe make a Pokemon rip off, make monsters based on every holo but i guess there aren't enough holos for that.
>>62618470actually im a jailbird
>>62618500It's not requiredAlso it require organizations
>>62618223>>62618292>>62618319>>62618346> なお、後述の「ゲームクリエイター・サポートプログラム」をご利用いただく二次創作ゲームクリエイターに限り、法人やサークル名義による同人活動であっても差し支えございません。> Please note that as long as you are a derivative game creator who uses the "Game Creator Support Program" described below, there is no problem even if your doujin activities are carried out under the name of a corporation or circle.But their official EN translation says -> Only game creators who use the “Game Creator Support Program” as outlined below will be permitted to create fan made (also known as “doujinshi”) games under a corporation’s or circle’s name.This looks like a translation fuckup.
>>62618204a Malaysian chinese
>>62618484I didn't say if she would or wouldn't. Please learn to read
>>62618503It's okay anonJust let them have their fun before JP hour hit
>>62618470>he doesnt know https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RopCPd3ajJ0
>>62618415No her problem is that she can't sell the character. Theres more to being an ikemen character than having a deep voice, it's a whole character, a whole demeanour and more importantly it relies on other people playing along with it. It's how Okayu is able to sell the sweet Prince vibe despite her voice not being particularly deep. You could give Ao fucking vox's model and she still won't be able to sell it
>>62618454Isn't it because most people listen to songs on streaming platforms like Spotify after watching MV?
>>62618002Wasn't it up even before that? Unofficially at least. I vividly remember camping on Marine's prechat shitting on Roberu's(?) 3d.
>>62618484No one can tellSometime Pekora overlap, sometime she don't, it is based entirely on her mood
>>62618219tag it as /news/ otherwise news anon might miss it
>>62618533You really want to push this. Holocure would not be allowed to exist with your interpretation and they are happy about this.
>>62615522Just your average nips cuck mentality.
>>62618503Director of HoloEN was omega anonHe got firedThe position has been renamed
>>62618483I have seen so many girls on Twitter idolize Marisa for some reason. They see her as the independent tomboy girls they wanted to be
>>62618483>men like cute and sexy>woman like cool and sexyIs this why /#/ doesn’t like Mori?
>>62618526It would be funny if pekora overlap ENID and stars
>>62618614If you believe that, that's fine.
>>62615841Holofightbros..
>>62614741fuck I actually took some damagewhat was the context?
>>62618355It surreal hearing her voice "it so fucking good" while fingerings
>>62618566what does holocure have to do with neal experimenting the youtube algorithm anon? shit like this has been a problem since last year and even more so know that they basically admitted to having specified kill switches for companies in youtubehttps://www.marketplace.org/shows/marketplace-tech/youtube-will-disable-recommendations-for-some-users-will-that-decrease-harmful-content/
>>62618614Overlap what tho?
>>62618635I miss click. I don't care enough to fine the correct one
>>62618649Their 3D live and events.
>>62618667No shit? There's no rule against thatWhat the fuck are you getting at? You retard illiterate
surprisingly grim numbers for Pekora today
>>62618514its basically giving fan creators the chance to monetize games anon which they couldnt do in the past due to how retarded ip and copyright laws work
>>62617881>HoloEN can freely overlap Tempus 3D debuts
>>62618683If only Miko was there...
>>62618514Yeah translation fuck up
>>62618683HoloJP is sinking hard right now anon. It's over for pekora! It's over for holoJP!