/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I'm okay with this. I'd rather her sing original songs and dance on stage than play FOTM goyslop #3928

Okay that's fine, I like the singing better anyway. Maybe stop comparing them to Niji and Vshoujo though considering their main focus is streaming.

>>62453434
Explain how all the others manage to both stream and partake in those event then lmfao

>>62453434
Poor goomba, hope she didn't overexert herself

>>62454251
Shhh anon. Let the chumbies cope. This is totally not recorded before Holofes3

>>62454251
The more interesting question is how Gura is able to have a panel with Kiara at AnimeNYC this week, but still not take the 10 seconds to update fans.

>>62453434
Marine still streams and talks to her fans though....


Chumbuds...I think the problem is...you

>>62454514
>faggot:"you have to stream like my irrelevant chubba or you suck"
>holoCHAD:"my oshi can stream whenever she want like pekora or roboco and still be relevant"
Learn the difference, it might save your career one day.

>>62453434
gura is as far away from an idol as it gets. the raison d'etre of an idol is making their fans happy and interacting with them.

>>62455190
>irrelevant chubba
>marine has streamed twice as much as her this year

>>62455293
And Mori has streamed 4x more than Marine and has released more songs, what's your point?

>>62454920
Action speaks louder than words

>>62454920
>how
Because she is doing what she wants and doesn't give two shits about her fans. Easy.

>>62454920
>>62456482
>"""fans"""
Maybe if you guys had been less of a nuisance to her, she wouldn't have developed the knee-jerk reaction of charge rifle vomiting as soon as she sees a chumpædo in her chat.

>>62455038
>creative girl experiments with memes and voice acting hoping for something to stick
>she gets the big break
>naturally she doubles down on whatever works for her talents
>the results are great, she is universally recognized and praised
But
>out of all chuuba fans, she attracts the scum of the scum, the chumpedos
You can't make this shit up, I would get depressed too.

>>62453434
This! I love my idol shark! Take all the time you need, queen! She's working hard just like in my favorite hecking anime Love Live!

>>62456277
oh no no no catalog shitters, numberfags came with recites

>>62453434
new chumbuds cope

>>62454920
man Gura REALLY doesn't like her fanbase

>>62456876
>grey names, both pro and anti, shitting up all her comment sections
>"""fans"""
Hololive intentionally doesn't moderate her chat to force her to quit. That NIGGER spam on her one yukata stream with Ame is STILL up (1:16:42). Any other talent, VOD would be deleted immediately. They are giving her the Coco treatment.

>>62453434
maybe Gura can do that, but not all of them can.

How much does a 5 minute animation video cost? She spends so much for her audience.

>>62453538
Why not both?

>>62455038
Marine is damn near as lazy as Gura and randomly disappears for weeks without telling anything to her fans.

Hololive is a lesbian dating agency. They exist only to help lonely otaku dykes hook up with each other, anything else is a luxury.

>>62458800
In that quality? Probably in 6 figures, dollars

>>62458800
>implying hololive isn't the one who covers the cost

>>62453434
What the fuck was that MV, that isnt yuribait, that just straight up rezubian. Is this a coming out video?

>>62455038
All of EN hates their fans question is how much they can hide it.

>>62459330
Pretty sure Marine said that she used her own money on previous MVs

>>62459330
For this MV she also made Gura pay but dogfuckers will act like Marine paid the most

>>62459330
Newfag

>>62456876
>censoring pedo on a mongolian basket weaving forum

>>62453434
>Hololive is an idol company
reddit """ humor"""

>>62458867
only weeks? when was the last non corpo mandated gura anything?

>>62460680
I'm not denying that gura is lazy but Marine is almost just as bad.

>>62460721
if marine only leaves for a few weeks but comes back with music videos and shit she's nowhere near as bad as gura

>>62461054
But Gura also came back with a music video. This is her project as much as it's Marine's.

Gura will stream as long as it's not for chumbuds. She just needs Kiara, Ame, some JP, or a sponsor to ask her.

>>62461114
>This is her project as much as it's Marine's.
Absolutely not. Marine actually had to organize the whole thing. All Gura did was record some lines.

>>62458001
Chumbuds are gigantic faggots, it doesn't surprise me at all. There's a reason why most of her recent streams have been collabs.

>>62461200
Gura is the central character of the music video.

>>62459330
Reps

>>62461200
>Absolutely not. Marine actually had to organize the whole thing. All Gura did was record some lines.
Anon, marine had to record the entire showa life show + make sure the production for this MV is on track. Gura just sing 2 songs and thats it.

>>62459387
Not my IRyS, she loves us.

Gura just queefed out a baby, give her some time

>>62453538
>slopbuzzword
deport all vpolniggers holy fuck kill yourself

>>62459330
At best this MV was 100% Marine, even the animations Gura bought for herself she already mentioned that she just looks at them from time to time while the animators do most of the work with the references and ideas

>>62454920
She doesn't give a shit to her fanbase, and she she should? Army of NPC simpoids in the actual real sense of it

As long as we get more canon loli sex I'm for it. I don't even watch EN.

>>62453538
this but unironically

>>62454920
I wouldn't want to update my fans either if I knew my fanbase consists exclusively of 14 year old reddit users and 30 year old pedophiles

>>62459330
how new?

>>62469020
Gura actively panders to middle aged lolicons just like Ui does. Zoomers can't stop losing.

>>62469108
you are a sad, sad, sad individual

>>62459655
>british spelling is censorship

>>62459387
>All of EN hates their fans question is how much they can hide it.
Read through the comment section of an holoEN's VOD or MV and then ask yourself why they could possibly hate their fans

>>62467123
Triggered goyslop consoomer detected.

>>62467486
Gura had no hand in supervision.

>>62469131
Cope and seethe zoomsis, she's ours.

>>62469419
post double chin with timestamp

>>62454920
Because she doesn't care about her fans. She's literally proven this time and time again. At MOST, she cares about being a partial-idol who sings and dances on stage every now and then.

>>62459387
Eh, that's not true. There are a few notable ENs that clearly and obviously love their fanbases. Take a look at Advent.

the idol activities have an audience because of the streaming

>>62469474
Biboo is ours too.
https://twitter.com/kosekibijou/status/1721860437372022890

Am I the only one that thinks that Gura doesn't stream because she is mostly focused on behind the scene stuff, like brand merchandise, events in the future, focusing on getting better at japanese and her singing, etc? Like, by the shows, it is obvious that Gura is living in Japan since the start of this year, and COVER wants to use her popularity and make her shine better. EVEN if she ghosts her audience, being the most popular vtuber means she has to sacrifice something, even if he has a boyfriend too. The last time she streamed, her japanese was getting sighly better, chumbuddiess don't even know where she is now.

>>62469641
She's spent this whole time trying to get transferred to JP branch so she can flee the west and also not deal with california censorship.

>>62469641
You're probably not the only one, but there's no excuse for the ghosting. Other girls that have shit like that going on still make it a point to communicate. Boyfriend, sickness, or 15 nonstop pregnancies are all irrelevant.
A simple tweet or membership post takes under one minute.

>>62469701
unfathomably retarded but unfathomably based if true (absolutely 0 chance that it is btw)

>>62454920
damn the femcels are seething and reeking in their replies lmao

>>62469802
It's quite literally the plot of the MV.

>>62469794
It's obviously not personal life related because Cover freely gives alibis for anything personal. The only thing that both can't be talked about by talents and also won't be addressed by the company itself is internal conflict. Gura hates EN.

>>62470374
EN is just fine without her anyway. Let her rot.

>>62470651
She's going to purge every tranny from Cover's california HQ and you can't do anything to stop it.

>>62470873
For that I first have to care. I don't.

>>62470972
Your actions demonstrate otherwise.

>>62471102
List my actions, aside from writing in this thread.

>>62471102
>list my actions without listing my actions
lol
lmao

>>62469108
honestly why would you even pander too zoomers? they are all poorfags while a middle aged man can most likely open the wallet

>>62471185
That's the lulz, because to take any action other than typing here I have to care first. I don't.

>>62471198
Exactly, zoomers are worthless and not worth acknowledging. If she's actively avoiding a part of her fanbase it's that one so they stop trying to get between her and her gachikois.

>>62471198
Because us dying will free up at least some positions which zoomers could theoretically take and achieve income. If they are faster than pajeet or paco at least.

>chumbuds are cancerous faggots
>Gura hates them therefore she doesn't want to do solo stream for them
That's it
If cuckbuds stop being retarded the streams will start again

>>62471418
Define "cuckbuds stopping being retarded".

>>62471326
Gen X and Millennials are using up the last remaining generational wealth of the dying middle class, gen Z are literally the first generation of a modern chattel wageslave caste.

>>62453434
that's like saying Valve is a game developer

one doesn't change their business foundation without losing mountains of money in the process

>this post has nothing to do with chumbud coping

>>62471481
Not calling the main appeal of their own oshi's design immoral.

>>62471481
Being gay with each other, trolling outside of /ggg/, not caring about other Holos.

>>62471582
Can you prove it's chumbuds specifically calling Gura's design lolified and immoral?

>>62471623
I certainly don't see them defending against whoever is.

>>62453434
I'd stop streaming too if I was invited to Marine's sex dungeon.

>>62469173
>br*tish

>>62456876
you know how much lolishit shes liked/retweeted (when that was one of the few things she actually still did)
chumpedos being pedos is unrelated to anything

>>62472004
They aren't unrelated in that those people are her gachikois and she hates the (((fans))) that harass them for it.

>>62470374
It's not that she "hates EN" it's specifically that she hates or has grown tired of her fans. She has a LOOONG history of building up a fanbase only to come to resent them. Occasionally, she'll feel motivation to stream and interact, but it dies down quickly when Cover thrusts literally any amount of nonstream related work onto her

>>62471720
Does it even exist? Brrats told me she's a certified shy femcel which I find extremely hard to believe.

>>62472219
Well, the more audience she builds, the more there is of expectation from her. Streaming is just the baseline.

>>62472219
She hates western normalfags, cover desperately wants her to win over western normalfags. This is where the conflict comes from.

>>62472309
Yes, but there's expectations of every single massive hologirl, yet they all still stream and communicate. Gura and a few others are the exceptions. There are girls busier than Gura with more obligations who still manage to not only stream regularly but also ALSO communicate.
Gura is incapable of doing even the bare minimum.

>>62453434
Idols work hard and care about their fans anon.

>>62458867
Why are you pretending to be retarded anon?

>>62458001
I wonder why

>>62456277
>unicorns turning into deadbeats
I love this story

>>62471481
>make alt accounts to harass their oshi because she has not streamed in X Days
>harass every other Holo and their fans if they had the chance to
>hate everyone else in Hololive, only watch Gura
>believe Holoan because they're completely unable to think for themselves
>obsessed with doxing
>tourists from other garbage boards (/v/ and /pol/)
>don't actually care for their oshi, just want HER to return
And others I'm forgetting. But it's clear and present that your behavior ITT is indicative of why Gura isn't streaming

>>62453434
Goodbye Goombers streams. :(

>>62453434

>>62467123
>

>>62459387
When your fans are as up your ass and controlling as Holo's it's understandable.
Thankfully doing bare minimum makes the fans happy and makes the girls money.

>>62469193
Holos opinions on the matter are not important, they are there to be ogle at and be used as GFE in exchange for money.

>>62473720
Thanks for proving his point

>>62454920
Damn, she really did just relegate herself to being an idol only and quit the streaming game personally. Now she's just a cameo in collabs for everyone else. Maybe she wanted to mention that but I guess the retarded compromise is to leave all the chumbuds left to dry while she cameos everywhere.

It's either Gura or management pulling this because I cannot see why Gura can say she's done.

>>62473263
Like there were any.

>>62473748
Why would she if money keeps coming in for way less work? Her conduct is rational at least.
What I can't understand is why chumbuds are putting up with it.

>>62469641
I was thinking this too despite so many catalog-seethers say otherwise. It would make sense that she's dedicating most of her time to behind-the-scenes.

To be honest, though, an acknowledgement that she's focusing on offline stuff more or whatever with the occasional cameos here and there would be so much better for dedicated fans. Like I feel bad for dedicated fans who are forced to look for her everywhere else in cameos in other holos. It creates a distance and gap between the chuuba and the fan. At this point, you might as well say she's just any musical artist instead of a streamer.

While the retards are constantly seething, they do have a point she should try to communicate as she was an online personality first. Oh well, I guess times have changed.

>>62474147
>Like I feel bad for dedicated fans who are forced to look for her everywhere else in cameos in other holos.

>>62469500
>correction; she hates the crybaby & needy parts of her fanbase that will never man up by either
>just leaving
>developing long-suffering patience
>or go out & get a life of their own so they aren’t constantly whining about her long breaks from streaming
>obviously she doesn’t go living her life revolving around yours
>so why yours revolve around hers?
>and if your life HAS TO revolve around hers
>know that she WILL continue to choose NOT to live her life revolving around yours

>>62473748
She's targeted by a harassment campaign and Cover's new answer to that after failing with Coco is to just limit interaction and focus on other activities as much as possible until the heat cools off. Any form of interaction just becomes a venue for the harassment after all.

>>62474340
Come to think of it, how do ayamefags handle their monthly dry spells?

>>62474071
I would do the same too, it makes sense and it's rational. It's just a shame the chumbuds can't see that times have changed and to break their copium. If I was them, I would've unsubbed memberships and just entertain from afar instead of being dedicated.

I did hear so many of them are vtuber normies so maybe this is just for the best for her casual audience. Shame that her big fans are fucked over.

>>62474383
nice rrrrat anon. She's done the streaming game.

>>62474071
>the chumbuds who post

>Nijiniggers think they can get away with framing chumbuds for THEIR harassment campaign
You guys are fucking finished once I finish compiling all the evidence of you faggots and your ongoing hate campaign against Gura and her chumbuds, I'm sending it to FalseEyeD and Nux Taku and Nijisanji is going to be fucking destroyed.

>>62474538
Do we have any recent information on her member dynamics? Did she really lose any?

>>62474608
Nijikeks would be the first to cheer at the destruction of niji, not least because it would free some of their girls to join holo or go indie.

>>62474608
Nijisanji isn't the one with livers purposely avoiding their fans and their fans going on mental streaks because dry spells happen

>>62474732
THOSE AREN'T FUCKING HOLOLIVE FANS OR CHUMBUDS, THOSE ARE FALSEFLAGGING NIJINIGGERS. GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK FUCKING SKULL ALREADY.

>>62474732
yeah Nijisanji are the one with livers who have a controversy every other month or so whether it's with their fans or management.

Lol, the voice actors don't do the pre-recorded mo-cap dances. They get real dancers in for that thankfully.

>Thread about Hololive
>b-but what about Niji
>Niji is bad remember?
>Let's talk about Niji

>>62453434
Based. Gura is my idol and I'm happy to support her.

>>62461114
There's a reason why the video was posted on Marine's channel and not Gura's. It's because she actually did most of the work.

>>62474413
my rrat for all of this is
>burnout+busier schedule+legitimate health problems cause her to stream less prerecorded responses to questions of burnout from matpat’s interview basically being ‘I stop streaming & go outside’.
>is sympathetic to all of the chumbuds missing her >struggles with keep to her promises to stream whenever she can due to reasons mentioned +guilt+anxiety
>more & more chumbuds start behaving like man-children
>which ironically just wears away her mental resilience more & more
>as well as her patience & sympathy
>all while the broader community & other, more mentally mature, chumbuds keep shouting their support for her regardless of what happens
>grows more & more annoyed & impatient with the man-children part of her fandom
tied to a chair & forced to stream comment from mumei’s 3D
guess who remembered they’re a streamer? tweet before not actually streaming herself, only appearing on a collab on Ame’s channel
>knows her current behavior is mainly doing harm to the man-children
>& the mentally mature will know to wait it out
>is currently in the process of pulling an Emplemon with the man-children part of the fanbase
>PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE MAN-CHILDREN

>>62475332
This is exactly how mentally ill chumbud coping looks like.

>>62453434
fan interaction is one of the most important parts of being an idol so Gura is a terrible idol too

>>62475552
Would those jap idols avoid shaking hands with disgusting otakus if they could?

>>62474393
Its not comparable because Ayame still tweets and shit. No one in hololive is worse than Gura. She is the new standard when it comes to treating your fans like garbage ATMs.

>>62475612
yes

>>62475700
There you have it then. Gura has found a way.

>>62475612
No because that's how you make more fans and make your current ones feel stronger about you. Comparing some lazy ewhore to actual idols is funny though.

>>62475775
You didn't understand the question, eh.

>>62475843
Nah you just didn't like my answer.

>>62475917
Because it wasn't answering the question posted, yes.

>>62475999
Nah I definitely did. Sorry real idols aren't like your shark whore.

>>62473108
??? his behaviour?

(v and pol are bad boards????)

>>62475332
that sounds like dickish behavior

>>62475612
Yes, but that doesn't mean they'd avoid shaking hands with fans.

>>62475456

>>62453538
your comment is slop