/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

who? why so many chinese replies

>>62280697
Kino's back on the menu

>>62281200
I guess the person that stole Shiori's archive?

>>62280697
wtf I thought Eilene retired for good

DM-ing a corpse lmao

>>62280697
W-what the heck? How would Shi-... Natsumi moe reply to this???

>>62280697
what a leech
he has other channels to post stuff

>>62280697
His suspended channel...

>>62280697
Holy kek

Oh so this is what shiggers were on about earlier

TEN YEARS

>>62282214
NO! I DONT WANT THAT!

Hololive will get lawyers involved, eilene

Sex with Eilene!

>>62281648
Not anymore he doesn't

>>62280697
Technically, Moe's channel was originally his and she used his numbers to jump the line in the hololive auditions. It'd be a little weird for Moe to reject him but I wouldn't expect anything more from her desu.

>>62280697
>eilene
how are you still alive

>>62282214
Ho Lee Fuk

Wi Tu Lo

Bang Ding Ow

>>62282628
Yes it was all just a plan to get into Hololive EN in.... 2018.

>>62280697
i miss the kim jong un video

>>62282628
she put 5 years of effort into it, technically you're a faggot.

>>62282817
>2018
She 100% claimed it as hers during auditions last year because it technically is without the added context, that's the only way to explain why she was selected over every other basic Asian girl.

>>62282270
I mean the case could be made that Moe is the IP of Eilene and stays with her after the actress behind her leaves

>>62282664
Quick somebody post the list of eilene's crime. It might get updated very soon.

>>62282857
She put 3 years of that effort into Raven Manor.

>>62282840
Oh fuck. Now I remember why that kuzushit arg looks familiar.

You now remember when Ebola-chan was funny.

>>62282970
>Only reason
No she's got plenty of other stuff to her name too, she's been in this game way longer than most people know. That's why Hololive took her.

>>62280697
LMAO what a faggot

>>62280697
KWAB

>>62280697
Kek once you hit it big all your old "friends" come crawling out of the woodwork wanting a piece of the pie. Many such cases!

>>62283236
Oh, so she's like Vesper but JP and a girl? No wonder Shiori wants nothing to do with her PL "friends".

>>62285802
Holy fucking newfag, you are way out of vector.

>archiver’s PL “friends” end up being opportunistic scumbags
Who could’ve seen this coming

>>62285913
birds of a feather

>>62286017
so true sister

>>62282970
Lying on your resume is based if you get away with it and finally land a decent job after treading through the endless morass of jobs that sound okay on paper but are actually total shit.

>>62283019
>3 years into RAVEN manor
>Her current motif is based on THE RAVEN
Whoa.... is this confirmation that hololive allows EN girls to choose their models?

Not this bitch again, you seething, jealous narc, we know you're lurking here sister. Now that Shiori's made it big and has control over her content, you want to establish dominance for it? Bitch.

>>62282840
EIlene's model always reminds me of the art from Chibi Vampire.

>>62280697
Moe hates that tranny, Eilene go scam someone else.

>>62285894
>Oldtroon frothing
Yep, not worth putting in the effort to learn about kek

I actually questioned in the past how moe was able to keep using that channel after very publicly cutting all ties with the eilene family, but considering eilene's track record I wouldn't be surprised if she somehow fucked up and lost the rights to it

>>62283236
Tons of shit missing.
>No mention of Ebola chan
>No mention of the dumb shit he made Moe do.
>No mention of why he was banned on YouTube
Probably a lot more shit that I forgot too.

>>62287144
what did he make moe do?

>>62286759
>Troon
Shoo, back to a wojack board.

is this one of the 4 boyfriends

>>62282970
Who gives a shit if she didn't technically own the channel on paper? it was her streaming

>>62285802
No, Eilene is a male who uses TTS and is a master troll and shitposter, but also a scammer and an all around shitty person.

>>62280697
does she know?

>>62287530
It was originally Eilene's english channel, but he gave it to Moe in 2018.

>>62280697
what the fuck eilene, first akari now what?

>>62287459
Forced her to work with a tranny who she despised, mostly.

>>62288012
what narrative is this, since when did moe hate eilene.

>>62280697
She just did a Twitter space playing melancholic tunes on the piano. The news really fucked her up didn't it

Eilene will make a new corpo with Beatani and Sayu

>>62288230
The day he forced her to work with Commy, but it likely started earlier.

>>62288368
>beatani
She's in Mexico sipping margaritas

Can you fags give context on why this matters?

>>62288805
Eilene is the most influential vtuber of all time

>>62288805
Eilene was popular all over 4chan in 2014 due to his ebola-chan series. Also, Eilene family is one the OG VTuber corps.

>>62288261
that's how she always plays, don't jump to conclusions just yet

>>62284241
hololive took her because the original shiori got cold feet and bailed out a few months before debut. they needed somebody with experience that they didnt have to worry about. she got into hololive to give advent a smooth debut and will graduate soon.

>>62291735
2 weeks from now, right?

This is as good as any place to ask: is the icon of the vtuber wiki Elaine?

>>62291837
Yes

is this what she warned about and we gotta respect it?

>>62288805
Eilene crawled on mud so kizuna ai can run

>>62282790
Sum Ting Wong

>>62280697
that is a terrible kana transliteration for "Eilene".

>>62280697
Why post it in public like this

>>62283236
good times

>>62295722
To add pressure/self publicity

>It was actually a seething 2view all allong
eilene and her narc squad are outsourcing now, huh?

>>62291735
Source?

>>62291735
>original shiori got cold feet and bailed out a few months before debut
Meds now

>>62286288
They try and find girls to fit models that have, or they used to. They may have models get made after hiring to fit the talent now since even extremely well known artists and riggers will jump at the chance to be a holo mama/papa.

>>62298429
Taking into account that FWMC exists it's very likely they do let their scouted talent have some level of control over the appearance of the model.

>>62298620
Yeah, that's why I mentioned the second part. It doesn't take THAT long to get models made I wouldn't be surprised if FWMC were the first ones they grabbed. Hell it may even been Mori suggesting to Cover to grab them for EN3 since they used to collab semi often with the indie crew that's friends with Mori still and they seem to really like Mori for some reason

>>62298620
That must be a new thing, because there's no way IRyS 1.0 would have ended up the way it did if she had any say in its creation

https://twitter.com/shiorinovella/status/1722691276905058450

>>62286288
It used to be the girls didn't get to pick and simply auditoned for pre sent characters Cover had. However Advent seems to have bucked the trend since Shiori and FWMC are extremely on the nose.

>>62300292

Any stream watchers? Is she referring to an actual book or is this a subtweet on Eilene?

>>62300571
subtweet it seems. nothing from streams could really have anything to do with that and it's timing is too on point for it to be random chuuniness.

>>62300292
Shiorin...
God dammit Eilene, just retire for real already.

>>62280697
Can she get Akari's channel back?

>>62300571
Nothing related to the stream so yeah, I think she gave the Natsume moe channel back, she still has Raven Mannor so we are winning regardless

>>62300292
It wasn't your book shiorichama, you borrowed it and claimed it as your own when its owner disappeared. Now the owner's back and they're not just a memory anymore.

>>62301796
It's an interesting situation for sure. It's not completely Shiori's nor is it Eilene's. But Eilene going public about this is scummy as fuck

>>62300292
God that's so cringe

>>62301796
Yeah it was borrowed, but what she wrote on that book after it was borrowed its hers and was made into the Raven Manor

Restore her channel fucker.

>>62282970
Terrible comparison. This is like saying you can't put the company you worked for on your resume because you don't own it.

>>62280697
A ghost from the past returns to haunt the present.

>>62301796
Oh please.

>>62302432
It's more like saying she used someone else's project, building on it for a year or two, and then claimed it as her own.

Her channel was built around the Eilene family, particularly Moemi, that's when it experienced the most growth (How do I know? Because I helped Eilene and whatshisface TL some of her videos). I'd be interested in seeing how much she grew it on her own, but I'm not a numberfaggot and don't really care since it doesn't matter anymore.

>>62303058
>whatshisface
Loserbait! That's the faggot. He was a pretty competent project lead for the TL projects and even built a script to translate the Google docs into the file YouTube needed. Shame about his fall from grace, and totally deserved.

>>62303058
What a weird situation. Eilene fucked off to who knows where to buy milk and entrusted moe to everything. Then suddenly came back demanding everything. Shitty situation overall.

>>62303635
If there's a person who likely knows where Eilene fucked off to and why he came back, it'd probably be Comdost

Do you forgive her?

>>62303788
>she gave us Moemi
Always.

>>62303177
>Loserbait
aka Omega, who hired her just before getting fired and replaced by Jap

>>62303177
>Loserbait
Wasn't that guy A certain boyfriend and mod to a certain member of holoEN a few years back?
I knew him from /jp/ a long time ago but didn't know he also worked with eilene

>>62303980
he was EN producer for Hololive since Myth
also known as Omega

>>62304124
>he was EN producer for Hololive since Myth
Do you have a source for this?

>>62302258
It's kinda crazy to have moemi still active while yomemi fucking died considering the exact opposite was the reality for a while

>>62301796
Watch Moe's debut video, Eilene gave it to her there's no other interpretation.

>>62303980
Oh man, if warosu wasn't dead, I'd look up that video. What a crazy time.

>>62304244
She gave her freedom to do what she wanted but she likely never officially owned the IP.

>>62304331
>https://archive.palanq.win/
Link the post please

>>62304193
his ass

>>62304392
No need for a post:
https://files.catbox.moe/iufg13.webm

>>62304193
Here is it, he DM'd Watson on Discord as a staff member.

>>62304476
that's just unprofessional

>>62304476
Oh yeah, he got his ass kicked out after /jp/hlg/ dug up his past.

>>62304476
Oh THAT guy

>>62304476
But how do you conclude from that video that he is Omega? He could have just been a manager

>>62304736
That's the real rrat, he was probably just a manager.

>>62280697
Does she know?

>>62304476
how did this get swept under the rug without any consequence on Ame's part

>>62304193
NTA, but mainly the exact same writing style. Plus, Moemi appeared on an early hologra. I wouldn't be surpised if he was the one who facilitated the connection.

>>62303788
Of course, Eilene was my first vtuber love

>>62304476
damn the Eilene Family root runs deep in the Vtuber world
but not sure if this is enough proof for him being Omega and Ame bf though. Shiori also has her manager and a mod team watching her stream at all time. and from the Cover report yesterday, they have a mod team of around 50 people

>>62304476
Now the catbox shit should be updated with his Eilene family history.

>>62304651
He was pretty professional when I worked with him. His big mistake was tying his personal account with his professional account, hence the easy sleuthing from pre-/vt/-/jp/.

>>62304953
They were all pioneers, I'm certain Loserbait managed to snag the job as a manager the same way Moe did, by leveraging her experience and account under Eilene.

>>62304476
This is really interesting as well since Shiori mentioned yesterday she and Ame knew each other through another person that also worked in the Eilene Family (Deat). Quite a coincidence

Home...

>>62305142
Moe did not want to join Hololive for the longest time though. It took her forever to finally apply, but she knew she would get accepted immediately.

>>62304476
this place has me convinced looks just do not matter for men

>>62304476
The real full retard move was using the same account for his holo staff stuff

>>62305335
what possessed her to finally apply

>>62304651
Yeah, basically this >>62305894 and >>62305142
Also it was not his fault that the discord message showed up on stream, that was Ame's fault

>>62306068
Rushia..

>>62306101
Exactly

>>62306101
It's amazing how the biggest moneymaker got fired for this but Ame got to stick around and until homos killed her fanbase

>>62303788
My wife

>>62302258
My mistress

>>62303709
My sex slave

Btw, Moe never actually graduated, she stated that she's just going back to sleep for a long time. I don't know if she had the intention to come back eventually one day, but I wonder how this will affect her plan.

>>62306311
She didn't just go for that, and the circumstances were extremely different

>>62306311
>the biggest moneymaker got fired for this
Anon, you know it wasn't just "this". Also this was a manager/mod compared to what mofumofu was to Ru-chan.

>>62306391
Didnt she detached herself when she made Raven Manor or was that never stablished? Cuz the model was technically hers right?

>>62305937
Her PL wasn't going anywhere and she probably hated her archivist job. Maybe, Hololive also allowed more creative freedom like with the model.

>>62304476
Kek, this brings back memories of 2020. Where has the time gone bros.

>>62286288
Her and fwmc got to heavily influence their models because they were handpicked soon after the change in power in HoloEN. FWMC were selected after they went through old auditions again, while Shiori was probably scouted because, by the time all of this happened, she was talking about quitting so it's doubtful she was in the mood to apply.

t. rratman

>>62307165
>best possible pick and worst possible pick for hololive in one gen
balanced, as all things should be

>>62303709
Health issues and too many failed projects.

>>62301887
>>62295722
To make it look like Moe gave them permission to use the channel. What a snake

>>62300292
Kek

>>62307165
Nope, Shiori applied for Hololive, so did FWMC. Shiori said so herself that she had to apply, but I do agree on the model part though. Out of the 4 talents in Advent, Shiori and FWMC probably had the most influence over their model

>>62305937
>>62306699
As I said, there is a good chance she didn't actually apply to hololive.

In december she was thinking about quitting. Here https://streamable.com/ofyjvj she talks about how she puts too much effort in for the results she gets, but we know dec 2022 is when the hacking of Moemi and Yomemi channel happened so who knows what went on behind the scenes.

Either she had sent an application, was denied, was sad, then omega was replaced and she got in.
Or when they started to build the gen3 they needed a tardwrangler and she was picked between the Ame connections and the experience.

>>62305206
Do you have a time for this?

>>62307997
>Shiori said so herself that she had to apply
She did, but what I think she meant was that Holo asked her to send something so they can evaluate her.

The thing is, the time is pretty tight.
We know she was already in by May, since she used the eye design in her last video. If in december she was talking about quitting,
with corporate timing, there really isn't much time for her to get better, apply, get in, and the model being complete.
She has so much influence on that model, (and let's be real, Nerissa's as well unless it was a massive coincidence) that they were working on it after she got in.

>>62308043
Nah, Shiori had to applied, she wasn't scouted, but she knew she would get in. Maybe Cover left the door open for her specifically and she knew about it, very plausible considering the Eilene Family is all over Hololive.

>Do you have a time for this?
Yes, in her RPG maker stream yesterday. She talked about knowing Ame because she and Ame both learned Unity from the same person.
>friend with Shiori
>helped created VSeeFace
She didn't mention anything about being French or else it would 100% be him, but I'm confident about that. He also showed up in one of Shiori stream and she greeted him before.
https://www.youtube.com/live/MY80vFStPYA?si=9SIfpEhAGBD9DYrR&t=10380

>>62308533
Ame mentioned him directly on the Alyx stream so it's most likely him.

>>62308533
Ok, I will correct my rrat to "They asked the girls if they knew someone good for the new gen, girls said names, Ame said Shiori, and Shiori had to send her application against a small number of people."

>>62308043
Man that was like the second good thing omega did

>>62303972
retard

>>62308369
>since she used the eye design in her last video
The eye has always been her thing anon.

Bae is infuriating vs Romeo, she absolutely refuses to use her attack windows

>>62304476
What song is that?

>>62310061
https://youtu.be/H88oI5uX3jM?si=gpsqewPJHjQn81fY

>>62310150
Is this composed by the guy who does the Bleach OST?

>>62304476
I miss 2020 era shitposting...

>>62282628
Only the videos made by her have more views so she basically made the channel relevant

>>62311095
You're right anon, that's because they were reposts from Mirai Akari's channel, which she sold to the corpo who managed her and privated the original videos.

Make no mistake, that channel is not Moe's and she became irrelevant after losing rights to the DigitrevX model after he went full retard.

>>62285913
Eilene is a piece of shit through and through he is what the nijilivers want to be.
Too bad for him he can't touch moe anymore will be better if he knew his place and stayed dead.

>>62280697
cmon moe, let them use the channel. i'm sure it'll be just fine.

>>62286288
Advent girls probably did atleast, she even gave a hint in her haitus video she couldn't have done that if holo didn't allow it.

>>62286372
>Bitch
Thats not the proper word it's
>Fag

can this guy sue her for anything

>>62288805
Eliene family is the prehistoric world of EN vtubing whome moe (now shiori) was part of.
It's a long story but Eilene is a piece of shit, their ""family"" fell apart when jp corpos started to gain foothold in the market and then they completely died out leaving moe with the channel which she abandoned after some time and faded into irrelevency.
Then holojp started to become popular in the west, Myth lead the EN Industry boom and build a paradise on Eilene families rotton corpse, then by some divine intervention Moe did something completely out of character and joined hololive.
Fast forward 3 months the guy who has been radio silent for half a decade wants to be friends with moe again.

>>62295722
Leeching prime

>>62298208
Wouldn't be surprised if all the spamming came from their seething gressy hands

>>62308692
>Ina recommended sana based on their prior relationship
>Sana quit within a year
>Ame recommended shiori based on their prior relationship
oh no...

>>62311429
Doesn't Account buying or lending of a channel happen all the time? I remember Keemstar after getting banned used a channel of a friend of his and bypassed YouTube that way, I dunno what happens if suddenly that friend of his says he wants that channel back despite Keemstar grinding and growing it. It's one of those grey areas we don't have an answer to till it goes to court

>>62311637
It seems onlt fair he try to grift off her since she's grifting off hololive

>>62311794
A man can hope

real subtle eilene, you should ask chloe for your money back next

>>62311821
I think that's pretty fair since Moe grifted off Eilene to gain a position at Hololive. An eye for an eye.

>>62308043
>In december she was thinking about quitting. Here https://streamable.com/ofyjvj
Poor girl sounded so tired and defeated glad she's been saved

>>62311865

Wait wut? Plz explain

>There are people that still think Eilene is a man

>>62311995
>>62311821
Go back to your discord shitter fags, she made it into holo and transended your childish games.
Seethe about it mald and burn to ashes.

>>62312067
eilene donated a bunch of money to chloe's PL when he was trying to be Mr Beast, that gave her a huge boost in popularity and probably helped get her into holo

>>62312078
catalogfags arent "people", they're subhumans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnruFkwWZDU

>>62312078
>Uses tts
You are right he isn't a man he is a faggot

>>62312233
Is that eilene?

>>62312170
She will laugh at his face

>>62312233
You're not wrong but I was actually referring to the video where Moemi (or maybe it was Etra) pulled a prank on Eilene by having her come into some formal business where the 3 employers there were in on the joke.
They had to Mosaic out Eilene's face, she ironically looks like your typical constrictive (dressing style) Japanese woman. They had to filter her voice but it was I think the real one not the t2s she normally used.

>>62300292
>deleted
What was it?

>>62312153
>transcended
She's the same person she has always been, a talentless hack who has more experience than charisma. There's a reason she fell off after losing her 3D model, and I don't expect otherwise after she leaves Hololive.

>>62312324
Subtweeting about having her book stolen, clearly referring to losing her channel.

>>62312324
A vaguepost about someone stealing her books

>>62312315
Pls have a catbox so we can end this he she debate.

>>62312328
Yet here we are, she is in the biggest female talent agency in the world and (you) have faded into irrelevency seething about her success on anonymous board just like before you have nothing.
And she isn't leaving anytime soon so fantasizing about her leaving will only give you more emotional trauma.

>>62312233
WTF when was she in hololive

>>62312426
The channel was hacked, deleted, and all the videos are lost media now.

>>62312446
yeah she's in, at the bottom

>>62312470
Thats not a holo
Thats not even Eilene this guy is just a scizo

>>62312446
I'm perfectly fine where I am cuck, I didn't care about her before Hololive and I don't care about her now. I care more about Eilene's shenanigans since what he did is far more interesting than what Moe ever did.

>>62312503
>>62312490
Seethe

>>62312490
A bottom tier holo is still a holo above everyone in the industry.
Learn how hololive operates maybe you will really have a mental breakdown then.

>>62312503
So you are going to stop seething about her now, right?

Indie roasties itt are hard seething that she got into hololive, lol

For some irrelevant boogeyman this eilene guy sure makes people seethe

>>62300292
>deleted
This is why you should post image

>>62312656
it was a foreboding woman moment

>>62312612
Like I said, Eilene had a lot of ambition, which he failed at but it was leagues more interesting than some basic asian streamer girl who never really had a vision.

Moe might be a lot more popular now and so has a bunch of holocucks at her beck and call, but it doesn't change who she is: A boring, derivative girl who's only ambition is to make money.

So all that shitposting Shiori got was actually this faggot seething at her success

>>62312324

>>62305254
newfag

>>62312496
Thats literally Eilene in the video the fuck are you talking about

This thread just exposed to me to some deep lore running behind the western vtuber scene and how everything was intertwine with each other

>>62312754
Damnnn

>>62312612
>Everyone is pointing and laughing at you
>R-RENT FREE Y-YOU ARE SEETHING
stop deflecting so hard Eilene you will never be relevant seethe about it.

>>62312841
You do know calling everyone Eilene like a schizo won't make people not hate Shiori right?

I miss Ebola-chan...

>>62312866
>people

>>62312866
>People

>>62312866
>Hating a holo
>People
It is impossible to hate a holo because only holos are right and everyone else is wrong, so yes you are seetheing burning in envy even.

>>62312971
t. Indog who also is a cuck enabling anything his whore does

>>62312834
Yeah the water runs deep, but ultimately it dosent matter because in the end only the winner matters.
Moe won enough said rest is irrelevant.

>>62312834
Yeah, man, I know. This is some Bronze Age shit I'm finding out here.

>>62283236
achievement list

>>62313021
The nijinigger fears the indochad

>>62313021
HOLOBOARD
HOLOTHREAD
HOLOSITE
HOLOISLAND
HOLOEARTH
HOLOUNIVERSE
SEETHE ABOUT IT

>>62313021
your 2view will never be relevant

>>62312866
You homobeggars barely classify as human. Nobody gives a fuck what you think

>>62313021
Holoid will be more relevent than you sister.

Damn I really triggered the Indog cucks.

>>62312078
Next you'll say Comdost is a woman.

>>62303972
Loserbait wasn’t Omega. There are too many contradictions (loserbait had never played final fantasy, for one.)

Imagine pretending to like shiori of all people just to try to own some idiots. You're more pathetic than moe and eilene combined

>>62304476
>sacchi
>nobuhime
>mod of natsumimoe subreddit
kek

Some minor trivia I mentioned years ago: I once caught loserbait on his main account watching Hekatia (Artia's reincarnation). Obviously while he still was holo staff.

>>62313382
Jesas, don't tell me loserbait is chink as well?

>>62303980
there's nothing to suggest he was anyone's boyfriend here or am I missing something

>>62305206
Shiori should shut up a little
But I know that's not possible

>>62313284
2view cope

>>62312063
Unrelated but you could imagine Gura going thought the same thing
Growing tired of what you used to do

>>62313478
There's el forbidden knowledge that could get an anon banned. You're better off looking in the archives

>>62310541
yes, Shiro Sagisu

>>62304476
So why do people think she's dating the guy just from that? Seems like he's just an audio guy/mod for her. Selen has a few of those but I've never seen anyone say she's dating them.

>>62313544
In other word, it coming from your dream.

>everyone criticizing shiori is a 2view
>everyone criticizing shiori is eilene
make up your mind

>>62313596
they're one and the same

>>62313284
>Calls himself an idiot to try and say that a vtuber from hololive isn't likable
Coping and seetheing lmao

>>62313544
you should follow your own advice

>>62280697
Posting it publicly on Twitter instead of doing it behind the scenes and releasing a new chanel owner debut video means Eilene was hacked or went full mental ill attention whore tr0n

>>62313596
Both are irrelevant seething shitters.
Can you tell the difference between bug 1 and bug 2? The answer is no both are disgusting that should be smashed if they make too much noise.

>>62313679
you know, being hacked is a good possibility

>>62313569
Anon... They were just trying to manufacture the rushia yab as Ame's recent graduation rrats got shot down again.

>>62313750
Nigga that webm was 3 years ago

>>62313569
no one does and no one did, it did spark up anons' curiosity which lead to something else but that's completely unrelated and also a dead topic that everyone moved on from

>>62313587
Please spell properly before posting on this website.
>>62313644
True.

>>62313569
I've been here forever and I only remember Amegeddon, which was not about loserbait but rather another guy. I remember loserbait yabs but it was never hinted to be anyone's boyfriend. More like a coomer leech on the business, and the Omega theory.

>loserbait is ame's boyfriend
this wasnt even the rrat before on /hlg/ when that chat popped up RUMAO people were just making fun of EN there because they got loserbait as manager. you can easily tell newfaggots making rrats

>>62300148
>>62286288
Holos models always have refs to rm
All of them
>>62300148
She is black because Hawaii

>>62313569
I remember some image of a picture frame/room or some shit that matched up with something sachi posted, as far as I remember everything was inferred from that, can't be fucked going to find it.

>>62313897
It feels like second hand accounts / broken telephone moment where some newfags mixed up amegeddon and loserbait

>>62313897
>loserbait is ame's boyfriend
More like 'was.' It's an old and dead thing that happened before she got into Hololive
>>62313938
Yup, that's the exact thing that set it all off.

>>62312754
Fake tweet sister

>>62313961
you are talking about the Amegeddon which is not about the clip posted aka loserbait at all RUMAO. That was NEET

>>62283209
The memes maybe. Nothing from Eilenes shit channels were funny. Moe included. She still isn't funny under Hololive.

>>62300352
Biboo as well, she likes magical girls, and she clearly likes going with an elementalist theme for characters.

>>62314012
She isn't that funny but she's a nice girl
Extremely retarded th

>>62312702
Wait what is this cope about eilene not wanting specifically to make money? That she was being retarded regarding how to do so and how to protect her investment doesnt mean she wasnt trying very hard to have more money.

>>62313994
So you're saying that she was tied up with loserbait while she was already in Holo?

Chu~

>>62313994
this, you retards are mixing up the two events. Amegeddon was very early on Ame's career and that's where the comparison happened (reminiscent of the rushia-mafumafu cutlery comparison). That happened early, was a HUGE shitstorm, but also got solved quite fast since it was proven they weren't together anymore.

The loserbait events happened way after that, and it was nothing boyfriend related, but people already hated loserbait for various reasons, and the discord yab + the HoloMyth producer interview reinforced the rrat that omega could be loserbait so it got even more shitposts.

>>62314225
Pepper there's enough shit in this thread we don't need yours too

>>62314012
t. person who has that okayu with headphones saved
Eilene should stay doing his shitty animations desu

>>62314242
Thank you for clearing it up, anon.

>>62314282
>Eilene should stay doing his shitty animations desu
That I can agree with. All the projects to make vtubers like Moemi, Akari, Moe, etc, ended up in failure or being scams. Should have just kept making videos as Eilene and by now would have millions of subs.

I will never forgive Eilene
Moemi deserved better

>Poorfag Eilene uses equally poorfag Moemi to shill dogshit mobile games in majority of his videos
>Nonetheless, videos are entertaining and manage to gain a niche audience
>Akari debuts around the time Kizuna Ai starts gaining traction
>Akari becomes a hit, new viewers also trickle down to Moemi and Yomemi
>Vtuber boom
>Moe debuts to cater to the EN audience
>Eilene finally gets his big break... in theory
>Ruins everything
>Joins Entum with Akari and immediately quits, Akari left behind to become a corporate husk that bleeds viewers, Entum later collapses
>Refuses to stream despite its popularity with the rise of Live2D and continues to use Moemi and Yomemi to make shilling videos
>Drops that entirely to focus on his goofy ass MMD "anime" series at the height of the vtuber boom
>Moe pretty much abandoned by Eilene and does her own thing (probably for the better)
>Rise of corpos, viewers begin to forget Eilene from the lack of content
>Eventually decides to stream, but on some unknown JP site instead, alienates pretty much the entire audience he spent years cultivating on Youtube
>Years later
>Yomemi completely disappears, later revealed she quit some time ago
>Moemi is a 2 view
>Eilene silently quits... only to suddenly return with that tweet

>>62314362
go to sleep shiori

>>62314199
He was part of staff in the hololive server as it was shown in another leak
>>62314242
Small correction, the loserbait thing happened a couple weeks before

>>62314362
>Seethe about someone succeeding so hard you come back from the dead to leeche
Seetheing shitter lmao

>>62314362
thanks for the qrd Shiorin

>>62314157
Eilene was most certainly a money-hungry motherfucker, mostly due to his poverty, and he hit it off with his patreon BUT that didn't last after he gave up.

As opposed to leeching off the hololive brand for success, Eilene wasn't a cute girl who could rely on brand power alone. He needed a clear vision of what he wanted to do, and he really fucking tried, making skits and shilling mobile game ads with decent translated story scripts that got Moe the headstart needed in the EN community.

That's what makes him way more interesting as a content creator and the reason he blew up in the early days. Sadly, he squandered that growth by going in too many directions and relying too much on shilling mobile games to provide financial growth. Hope to see more of his anime ideas if he does take Moe's channel back.

Fun thread
>>62314362
All the Lore is pretty interesting as a newfag but the fact that all of these girls are ugly femcels and trannies makes it less interesting
It's a cheap drama
I meam shit happens, they were young retards trying to "make it" n this new thing and of course most of them failed
I'm sure Eilene is not as bad as some people say

>>62314362
faggot leech only came back when he finally found out he has an "in" to hololive, albeit a backstab of sorts

>>62314567
Man, I fucking loved those mobile game shilling videos. What a goddamn shame they were lost to time.

>>62312503
Man shouldn't you work on improving your own situation over seething at someone escaping your crab bucket?

>>62314607
who did shiori backstab for that "in" into hololive? why would you need to backstab anyone?

>>62314362
what the fuck was Eilene thinking? what are all those retarded decisions?

I'm sad I missed a lot of this saga. Used to have /a/ and /jp/ as my home boards before vtubing happened. I saw early Eilene, the Ebola-chan videos etc and the /a/non testing "this new technology called Live2D" by fapping with it. By then I was tired of nu-/jp/'s ironic shitposting and railgunspam so left it and missed the start of vtubers in there.

Years after someone on /a/ mentioned nyanners was a streamer, so I got nostalgic despite the loli betrayal thing and checked her out, she was a low 3view nobody using an steam workshop idolmaster model. It was fun and nostalgic so I kept watching.
In one of those streams, she raided another vtuber (who's still a current /wvt/ indie, though /wvt/ wasn't a thing back then) and that's where I learned that what they both were doing was "vtubing", and what hololive and nijisanji were.
I searched the boards and found people talked about vtubers in /jp/. This was before holoMyth debuts, when holo 5th gen was new. So I started watching mostly Haachama and Miko.
Later on, /hlg/ led me to small indies, and that to awareness of Natsume Moe, so it sorta went full circle.

The older vtubing is, the more are we gonna see these kind of journeys and vtubers from one place popping out years later somewhere else, twists of fate like that. It's crazy how connected the whole scene is. Like imagine telling 2018's /jp/ that Rushia was gonna end up in a western company with nyanners, they would've said you were a turboschizo.

>>62314782
He is talking about Eilene coming back to steal her old model

>>62314282
I actually don't think I have a single Okayu image saved.
Videos maybe, but not images.
I don't save shitty meme reaction images. I've always hated them.

>>62314603
oldfags hate eilene because of the same reason people hate black companies. exploiting talents who had potential. if you couldn't understand this yet then you deserve to be a newfag being scorned forever.

>>62314947
didn't it belong to him? who cares anymore, he's irrelevant and she's in the biggest corpo

>>62315159
>shiori
>talent

>>62315193
Salty 2view fingers wrote this post

>>62315193
yes sister, guess who got into hololive? not your 2 view

Shiori holds her grudges. She vaguely mentioned Eilene in one of her stream before, and said she's glad that "karma got to them", whatever that might be. Now Eilene is coming back for another round

>>62315193
who said anything about shiori? I cared about moemi.

>>62315193
>Has been seetheing about her not having talent for 4 hours
She has the talent of making (you) seethe atleast

>>62315227

>>62315227
>Another round
Oh no whatever will shirori do a dead channel got taken away from her.

>>62315280
Yeah she ditched that channel 2 years ago, I don't get why is she upset about it.

>>62315280
>dead channel
Anon, if you watched Shiori at all you would know she holds them very dearly. She doesn't take the news very well at all. She sounds like sad as fuck in the beginning of today stream, also had a twitter space where she just plays sad piano tune

>>62315302
I don't think she's upset about the channel as much as she is by Eilene rising from the dead and trying to look like a nice, polite guy.

>>62315227
yea I'm not believing that without proof

>>62315327
one minute

>>62315327
https://www.youtube.com/live/Y4RdCGodxjQ?si=IWwA-UFoVguQN6vL&t=8068

>>62280697
Basado

>>62315317
I mean, it’s not going to work. The minute Eilene tries to do anything with the channel, people will know something’s wrong. What are they going to do, hire a skinwalker? Upload silent shorts of her moving around and not talking?
Shiori’s rm is primarily known for being Shiori’s rm. Shiori obviously having nothing to do with this is going to ruin any benefit the channel would bring.

>>62315380
Looks like she's still holding grudges to me.

>>62312834
>how everything was intertwine with each other
To be fair, this is pretty normal in young industries

>>62315380
ok, I have watched your timestamp and that person could be literally anyone, she just says "person" and doesn't mention any other details.

>>62315380
Kek, she really hated him didn't she. I don't blame her

>>62315428
>Shiori’s rm is primarily known for being Shiori’s rm
Precisely why eilene came back. He wants to bank on the new notoriety of that channel. Always has been a cunt for things regarding to business.

>she keeps whispering me onegai to my ears to force me to cum inside of her dusty womb

>>62315457
That's why I said vaguely. It could be anyone, yes. But think of her situation, who else could it be.
>Karma worked out
She's in Hololive while Eilene is in the ditch

>>62315193
Shiori will be good when she gets her 3D model

>>62315490
Well, ok, sure, it COULD be Eilene, but it could also be someone in her past that we don't know about that she really fucking hated to be this pleased about getting karmic retribution.

>>62315227
>whatever that might be.
Probably this
>One of the aides of Eilene, the vtuber Comdost, confirmed by a comment in a video about the early stages of the vtuber fad, that Eilene has retired from the scene due to a series of failed projects and health issues.

I got it from the wiki, I have no source.

>>62315490
To be fair, we don't know much about how Eilene is doing and neither does she probably. If it truly is just numberfagging, then that's kinda sad.

Shiori I know you are /here/ please don't drop the GFE you were so good before the family vacation

>>62315312
This, she even kept most stuff on all of her channels. She cares about her past, and I hope someone is archiving all of that before Eilene burns it down.

Technically she never had full control over the Moe channel. She tried contacting Eilene before to give her full ownership but he was missing. If Eilene does decide to do something to it then I don't think Moe has a say besides just warning people beforehand. Not sure about the Moe IP though, is Eilene still the owner of the Natsume Moe the vtuber?

>>62315763
I don't think so, since Moe moved to ravenmanor the character should be her.

>>62315763
It seem so.

>>62315795
I think she just commissioned her own model but that's it. Natsumi Moe is still not under her ownership >>62315800

>>62315795
Raven Manor is actually her indie account, hence her attempt at redirecting to her Twitch account from the YouTube channel. Natsumi Moe was always Eilene's and truthfully, since he owns the IP and the channel, he can always take it back.

It's not unlike Hololive's own noncompete. She'll have to relinquish Shiori sooner or later.

>>62315614
>dropping the only thing she had going for her
she's not the brightest is she

>>62315876
Props to her for thinking ahead, I guess she can fall back to Raven Manor but not Moe. Not sure if Raven Manor is a completely different IP though, how can I check it

>>62315908
Seething 2view fingers wrote this post

>>62315854
>>62315876
Now that you mention it, I went and checked ravenmanor. The oldest videos there use her malicediary model, but updated.
Then 3 months later she released this video after a while https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgj8OCtwyhI with the new Moe.

>this part
My spiteful and bitter girlfriend Moe.

>>62315800
Who is this Ito Nozomi? I tried a google search but I got nothing interesting.

>>62280697
what a schizo
well now you know why there was so much shitposting against shiori
it's all this nigger

This guy is quite amazing, he's simultaneously irrelevant AND responsible for literally all the shiori criticism on this site

>>62316144
Probably Eilene's real name.

>>62316566
this is who novelites are afraid of? some easily doxable nip?

>>62316566
>>62316623
Do you really think someone would doxx themselves like that

>>62312063
She sounds fucking miserable here. It really is night and day with how happy she seems in Holo.

>>62280697
was thinking about eilene a week ago. led me to look up moe to find out she quit

This whole internet nanocelebrity faggotry sounds incredibly frustrating to be entwined in but it sure is entertaining to learn about. I'm so glad I was a 2020 holofag and never had to care about any of this shit.

>>62315312
Not saying it dosent suck but that is what it is, a dead channel we all know why Eilene is doing this the shitter is seetheing at her success and wants to get an own, giving it to him isn't the right thing to do.
If he owns the ip then this be the death of the moe in all meaning of the world unlike moe shiori has a future Hololives growth is not stopping anytime soon.

>>62312834
its not really that deep, back then during eilene days you could count how many vtubers there were.

>>62317044
>shiori has a future
lmao

>>62315876
He cant even get his own channel back let alone anyone elses thats why he has to beg her back

>>62304476
oh that fucking guy, holy shit im starting to connect the dots. how does this cunt even manage to get close to them? nobuhime even

>>62314949
That image is from eilene's animation work for hololive

>>62280697
This is why Moe said you should probably archive her stuff around the time she retired (although she did remove a bunch of videos such as the Pomf Pomf cover and later on other videos got cleaned out like the one she did about her cats). She knew Eilene would come for her sooner or later.

>>62317171
>Still seetheing
She will get her 3d, performe in the holofest in front of 8k people and even more people when holo decides to up their game.
She will keep getting sponsers who knows maybe get into an anime and be in holoearth while hanging out with the biggest vtubers in the world so yeah her future is very bright.
Seethe about it.

>>62308043
western vtubing is such a small fucking world what the hell... and somehow they're all connected to /jp/. if only i wasnt intimidated by /jp/'s crazy catalog a decade ago i might be connected to some big chuubas right now, instead i stayed in /a/.

>>62317577
I was in /jp/ a decade ago, but i was there wasting time on 2hus

>>62317507
how fare you moeposter

Poor fuck got her into hololive and this is how she repays the debt, says a lot about her grifting character. I guess history repeats itself though, people only cared about the model back than and only care about the model now too kek

>>62317691
>Enter underaged monkey
You need to be 18 to post here gtfo

>>62317507
She privated a lot of her videos after getting into Hololive

>>62315437
her first stream was about vtuber history, she got indepth yet she never mentioned eilene, despite laying the foundations.

>>62317507
I'd link the stream but she removed all the YouTube streams on Raven Manor.

>>62317773
obviously she wouldn't bring it up and make her rm look bad

>>62317773
It's like she deliberately made that her first stream AND not giving Eilene any spotlight at the same time. That's quite something, she must really hates Eilene

>>62317691
>got her into hololive
>abandoned entire family for 5 years
sure eilene, keep damage controlling

>>62317886
Did you not archive anything? Did you not listen to her?

>>62317577
At least if you were around the KLK days you probably used Mori's OC she made.
But yeah there's a LOT of vtubers who've been in /a/ or /jp/ as femanons for a long time before vtubing. Hell, there's even an indie who is one of the oldest oldfags of 4chan, even nyanners is a newfag compared to her.
I'm not counting the ones who come /here/ after the vtuber boom because it's more of a leeching thing.

>>62317927
>archiver rewriting history to suit her own narrative
holy fucking shit
kino

>>62318019
Maybe the namefag is based enough to not cling to her past and enjoy her new Hololive self. He can prove me wrong though, I hope not.

>>62318116
Do you really think, let's say, if Gura moved on from holo eventually, that the shrimps would stop liking her past (Gura) content? or pander to the newfags who would become fans of her next identity?

>>62317651
I don't really watch her new stuff these days for a number of reasons but glad she got in. It's better than suffering as Moe.

>>62318019
As far as I was aware someone else had done it. There was also the unofficial VOD channel but that all got unlisted just before her debut.

>>62318092
ah fuck the OCs, do you have some of those saved? i vaguely remember shitposting about nui

>>62318282
The faggots who liked Gura only because of le alcoholic memelord XDDD either already left a long time ago or learned to accept the current Gura.

>>62318441
This happened years ago too by the way. So yeah, be glad she got out of this hell.

>>62318441
>>62318516
Thank you for the lore, hope you can find it in yourself to watch her again

>>62317577
Just like how half the tech journalism types and a lot of the indy techie types all have roots and connections to SA.

Most of the serious and heavy Western Weebs have a connection to 4chan.

>>62318092
are you talking about leaflit?

>>62317507
>>62317765
>>62317927
>>62318097
I hate this cunt

>>62318516
funny how she tried playing gf again and gave up, she really hasn't learned anything

>>62317773
Yeah, foundations of fuckall that is

>>62318441
>>62318516
i have loosely followed moe, tuned in her stream from time to time. i did not know she went through this much. what the fuck eilene.

I don't get how this thread stays up until bump limit talking about Shiori's PL but I talk about the dogs' doing current side project shit and people completely shut it down.
What is this world?

>>62318808
it depends on what janny is feeling like. pl talk is completely on-topic but janny can still delete them because he doesn't like it

>>62318808
also to be fair, the dogs' side project aren't vtuber

>>62318516
>>62318441
She was unironically saved by Hololive, or so I hope

>>62315614
>>62315908
Don’t listen to them Shiori, you should continue cultivating your audience
(you’ve essentially been doing the Daughter Experience, Female Student Experience, Female Friend Experience, etc) so it develops a mixture of demographics (men AND women, like some of the holojp’s eg pekora & marine)(but not too many demographics, as to do so will cause you to loop right back around to another version of what you’d be trying to avoid) & finding multiple ways to derive sources of income from to avoid becoming financially dependent on one demographic. You also avoid what is essentially financially exploiting lonely men.

>>62318909
fuck off sister

>>62318888
I wish she got saved by Fishman since she was absolutely Phase Connect material (unhinged mold loving sad girl) but the fact she got into hololive is icing on the cake.

>>62318974
kill yourself phase beggar

>>62317691
hi eilene

>>62318974
well she's making a lot more money now and doesn't have to shill coffee

>>62319010
Yeah well at least I know Nyaru the Caramel Idol will never go there despite her corpo literally dying.

>>62319021
hi shiorin

>>62319076
i hate ntr though

So this is what forbidden knowledge tastes like

>>62318974
Yeah I had similari thoughts, but maybe she would be too unhinged

in the end shiori will fade into irrelevance and Moe will rise from the ashes and surpass her

>>62319245
>le forbidden knowledge
this is how you become loserbait

>>62319267
>too unhinged
>same company as Pippa and Lia
She'd be joining the club really.

>last thread on the board
Guess this is the end. I'm eager to find out about Moe's next chapter. 'till next time anon

>>62304476
This reminds me of a much better time. I miss whenvtuber discussion /here/ just 2 or 3 generals on /jp/ and the worst antis to deal with were kiara and the 2hu oldfags

>>62319420
The worst thing I know about phase is uruka's spit popsicle turned kombucha.
Shiori would never

>>62319452
we still have to deal with kiara

>>62318974
>She should join this unstable startup that has several members almost quit that's 3 times as small as her current account over fucking hololive
Small corpo drones are seriously the most delusional anons on this board

Man... Shiori has been through so much... This girl continued even after all of that? She's strong.

>>62319279
Shiori's channel will be deleted/vods privated like other japanese corpos' channels
While "raven manor" will be seething 2 view hag from twitch

>>62319360
I GET TO FUCK AME TOO?

>>62319532
sana and coco vods are still there THOUGH

new thread >>62319577

>>62319590
lmao

>>62319515
>Small corpo drones are seriously the most delusional
But enough about natsumi moe

>>62319590
noone cares anymore

>>62319612
>Forget that the CEO had an indie sign over the rights to her property before joining, and took it all away after firing her
>Forget that the CEO has took several of his talents out to dinner and other groomer since the start
>forget that Merch takes almost a year to get properly shipped, something that even most twitch indies don't struggle with
>Forget that he took the side of his own mods over talents like pippa and almost made her quit.
She deserves much better than your nijisanji tier black company

>>62319799
in all fairness the shipping issue is being worked on, something about getting a US warehouse and shipping from there because Canada Post is disgusting

>>62318487
I do in fact. Besides some KLK pics from back then, have some craziness

>>62319799
Holy rent free, natsumi

>>62319909
ah fuck i was there, holy shit i miss tattun, last time i saw him in /a/ was when little academia was fundraising for a full cour anime. btw i voted tits