/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>6176511
who

>>6176520
Magnemite

I find it so weird how other VOMS watchers seem to hate her, if you bring up Monoe in their threads some of them even get mad too. Pikamee and TSMK would be really sad if they saw that

So what was the contract breach?

>>6176511
Waking up to the news of her suddenly quitting was the worst. It made me stop following VOMS altogether.
I hope she's doing alright.

>>6176646
nobody knows but the two remaining VOMS and Gyari himself. Some people theorized she is either in jail or died, based on the two member's reactions

>>6176647
Pretty much the same, I unfollowed anything related to VOMS after that info, I really want to know what she's doing now but I feel like a creep for feeling that way,.

https://streamable.com/u11iwy

>>6176511
you never watch her.

>>6176804
Of course, she never streams

>>6176646
nobody knows, my rrat is on weed

>>6176590
No one hated her. It's what came after, since it brought in a bunch of people just spamming Monoe pictures with no discussion and copypasta shit. Even some autist that keeps linking torrents for her videos.

>>6176773
h-holy shit

>>6176773
Where the fuck can I download this?

>>6176773
W-what is this

>>6177126
it's magnet being sexy as fuck

>>6176590
I loved her and most VOMs bros did too. We hate how every thread needs to be sabotaged by rrats about her because that's the only thing that keeps them above page 10 these days. Hopefully, Once VOMS 2 debuts there will be no reason to mention her in the generals ever again

4chan is being a cunt right now. I can't post a single reply, nor I can I make single new thread.
>>6176773
Please, anon, make this available somehow.

>>6177970
It finally fucking worked. I've been trying for half an hour.

>>6177456
Holy shit, there's going to be a VOMS 2? When was this announced?

Test

>>6176719
That'd be pretty fucking heartless if GYARI referred to death as a "contract breach", wouldn't it? I hope it's not that.

>>6178114
Couple months ago, Applications closed like last week

>>6178212
Ah. Did anyone here apply?

>>6179028
i did.
but i doubt i'll get it though
speaking fluent japanese is a must because gyari doesn't understand english
i know japanese and live in japan so that's not a problem for me

>>6177074
>>6177970
JDownloader can handle this

>>6176511
Too bad she couldn’t help from 420 blazing it

>>6183368
Is weed really still illegal in Japan? What an outdated society.

>>6178197
I don't know anon. How many Japanese women in their 20s/30s die each day? I don't know if it's feasible but I'm certain that if they out and out announced that she died, some schizos would trawl all the obituary pages for those dates and try to figure out who it was.

Pretty sure she didn't die (I believe the boring she's a government employee and not allowed to have a second job theory) but if she did, maybe announcing it that way is for the best...

>>6189587
Not to feed the schizophrenia, but considering what you just said, I don't see why them not announcing it would stop schizos from trawling the obituaries. Not announcing it wouldn't change it being in there. Which is why I don't believe it's that because they would have already found something the day it happened.

>>6176511
>Dont do drug kids

>>6176646
You don't know and you never will. Make peace with that.

>>6178197
That's because it's a rratarded theory by some dipshit on here and I can't believe it got any oxygen

>>6176773
I forgot about this, even her 1000 jump rope challenge sounded erotic.

no stream announced by pika or tmsk yet so i'll wait with new VOMS thread until they do

I don't like Monoe.

>>6198386
I don't like you.

>>6176719
>>6178197
I can't believe retards still pass around the "she died/is in jail" meme

The most likely thing is she had a civil service/government job and it's illegal to have any other job while working for the gov't in Japan. But we don't know. She didn't die, shut the fuck up.

>>6202069
I still don't believe the government thing just because of how abrupt her firing was and how sad the other two sounded in their videos about it. civil service feels too "safe" for a reaction like that.

they were sad because they had good chemistry and cohesion as a group holy fuck you retards are inssuferable

>>6203400
It was probably abrupt because her boss told her to quit her secondary income source or she'd be in trouble very soon. Both Tomoshika and Pikamee said that they, Gyari, AND Monoe all talked about it and came to this decision as a group.
Of course they sounded that way. They still lost a friend. Maybe Magnet couldn't associate with VOMS anymore at all, by order of her employers. Maybe VOMS couldn't associate much with her because it was technically a crime. Either way, she didn't die.

>>6203993
that doesn't explain the video deletions, anon

>>6204841
To cover his ass, obviously. Gyari owns the characters and designs but he doesn't own the voice. Last thing he needs is some former employer suing him for using her voice.

>>6204943
if a voice actress for an anime gets a government job, they don't delete the whole fucking anime. They didn't delete the collab streams. They deleted Monoe's entire library and nothing more.
Call me a rrat, it was done in spite. This was a malicious termination and you'd have to drop something BIG on me to convince me otherwise.

>>6205005
anon...
being a vtuber and being a voice actor for an anime are two completely different things...

>>6205040
She's a talent who doesn't own her character, who is doing character acting for a company, who owns the character. Please explain to me how this is different from anime from a legal standpoint?

>>6205005
You don't know the terms of their contract. An anime studio might get ownership over all the voice lines, but that doesn't mean Gyari put that he owns every other thing the girls say.
Hololive has done the same thing of deleting the whole archive for someone who was terminated instead of graduated.
There's no conspiracy, anon. It's been months. You need to let her go. Let her be free. Magnet would want you to be happy.

>>6205242
>VA
>You have the right to use my voice in your anime.
>vtuber
>You have the right to use my character to become a vtuber.

See the fucking difference? For voice actors they give their voice away, while corporate vtubers are given a character to voice.
Now what happens if that vtuber got fired? What happens if they say 'hey, you can't use my voice anymore'? Now gyari could do things differently here. He can 'buy her voice' so she can't claim it as hers anymore or he can delete it and avoid the problem altogether. Guess what he picked.

>>6205331
>It's been months. You need to let her go. Let her be free. Magnet would want you to be happy.
no

>>6205331
>>6205391
>He can 'buy her voice' so she can't claim it as hers anymore or he can delete it and avoid the problem altogether. Guess what he picked.
>but that doesn't mean Gyari put that he owns every other thing the girls say.
You'd have won with this argument with these statements if the collab streams were deleted as well. They weren't. Some of them are on Pikamee and Tomoshika's channels too. They're still up. They contain Monoe's voice.


>Hololive has done the same thing of deleting the whole archive for someone who was terminated instead of graduated.
Exactly. People who were terminated had their channels deleted. people who ended with the company on good terms didn't. I don't know why you're bringing this up, it supports my argument.


>There's no conspiracy, anon.
Spiteful termination is a simple concept, it's something that can happen between TWO people, there's no conspiracy to be had. We don't know anything for sure anyway, but I sure as fuck haven't been disproven on this one.

>>6205502

>>6176773
This is why Pikamee refuses to acknowledge Ring Fit.

>>6205502
All of Hololive China was terminated and had their archives deleted because Coco/Haachama mentioned a certain theoretically existent independent island nation in the south china sea. They didn't punish Coco/Haachama, but China refused to have Hololive, so away the talent went. The chinese girls didn't do anything, they weren't "spitefully terminated" by Cover. Yet, their channels are gone.
>>6205558
This

>>6205558
>no argument
>consume medication

FACT - Monoe's channel videos were all deleted
FACT - Monoe's collabs were not deleted
FACT - Monoe's collabs use Monoe's voice (fucking duh)
FACT- some of Monoe's collabs are still on Pikamee and Tomoshika's channels

>>6205766
HoloCN was terminated because more than one of HoloCN's members were conspiring against Coco, and you know this. It was safer to terminate ALL of them rather than risk leaving a filthy fucking roach in the company.

when jap artists delete their galleries it means they were spitefully terminated by uh.. themselves

oh thank god, a containment thread

>>6205865
>People raised in a totalitarian regime agree with totalitarian regime
Who would've guessed. Cover could have still left their archives up. The girls had not breached any contract. But they didn't, it's all gone.

>>6205783
FACT: If Gyari was being abusive in firing Monoe and deleting her archive, he could have continued to be abusive and make Pika/TMSK delete the collab archives. But he didn't.
So, then, to you, why did Gyari do it? Magnet sold him a bag of stems and he got pissed?

>>6206084
Do you expect me to feel bad for bad people because they were raised wrong?

>>6206146
Who knows. All you can do is speculate. Gyari's spite might not extend to the other two.

I have seen no convincing explanation for those videos being up, yet her entire library being deleted, other than malicious intent towards Monoe.

The collab streams still being up on other VOMS channels completely rules out the "she got a government job" rrat, imo.

>>6206234
Very based, anon, I'm sure Magnet is looking on lovingly to her whiny, unempathetic diehards.

>>6206520
I'd pity them at most. A bad past doesn't eliminate the price you must pay for wrongdoing. You call me unempathetic, do you have no sympathy for Coco at all?

>>6206443
It wouldn't tho, since Monoe wouldn't be making money off of them. If the problem was that she was receiving revenue from the channel, then deleting it makes sense. Youtube will run adds on channels of creators that don't want to all time.
Delete the thing that would generate her income. Don't delete the things that won't. Simple as

>>6206660
maybe you're right

I think Monoe SUCKS.

>>6206733
my dick? Yes how'd you know?

>>6176887
I thought this too but isnt VOMs three people? Would their managers really sacrifice one of their 3 streamers because she was inhaling ganja, i doubt it. I think she might have been thinking about joining another company or some shit

>>6206838
In Japan? Definitely. Just because that shit is getting more accepted in the western world doesn't mean it's the same in Japan.

>>6206930
I get that its seen as really bad in Japan, but if pekora or kuzuha were smoking blunts between streams, I find it hard to believe that that would be enought to graduate them in the companies eyes

>>6206988
I could definitely see something like that causing them to graduate. It is for sure that bad over there. Fuck, I could even imagine them firing someone like Cali for something like that, even if it would be in character.

>>6176773
that "ITE!", holy shit I came instantaneously

>>6206838
>their managers
you only have gyari and the vtubers
that's it

>>6206838
GYARI is the sole manager. By process of elimination, this termination of Monoe is GYARI's fault, because the responsibility falls on nobody else's shoulders.

>>6206988
Bro, the Death Note/Akagi/Kaiji soundtrack composor was arrested for Marijuana in 2012 and that was it for his career.

>>6209380
>>6206988
>>6206930
>>6206838
If this rrat is real and it really is over weed, then the termination is GYARI's fault.

I don't care if that's a contract violation or not. If you kill someone's future for the sole reason that they inhaled leaf, you're a prick- plain and simple, you're a fucker.
I don't care if this is a jap culture thing. Japan is very nice, but they have plenty of things that are DOGSHIT and it's disingenuous to pretend otherwise (little to no labor laws, porn ban, absurd schooling penalties, kangaroo courts, untouchables, etc.)

>>6209686
I don't smoke weed. How hard is it to quit?
Remember that they knew about the 'problem' long before her graduation and Pikamee and Tomoshika said that they discussed it with everyone. If gyari made an ultimatum to Monoe to quit or get fired then it's Monoe's fault.
I personally don't think she was fired because of smoking weed.

>>6209814
>I don't smoke weed. How hard is it to quit?
depends on how deep down the rabbit hole you've dived. If you smoked weed like 10 times it's easy as fuck, you literally just stop. If you've been smoking weed for like years, it's extremely difficult.

>>6209814
the first time you smoke weed you're already halfway through the addiction.

no matter what substance it is, always do your best to avoid anything considered addictive.

Especially when it comes to smoking, weed or just cigarettes, trying to stop it is nearly impossible for the majority of addicts, and no matter how hard you try, you will always feel the need to smoke at some point, even if you havent smoked for years, all you can do is repress the craving, but it does not go away.
Try to stop porn and you'll understand just how bad it can be, even if you stop it as a whole, you've already went far enough to never be able to live without sexual cravings and unconvential fetiches. Weed is the same.

>>6209686
this
one's addiction is one's own problem, as long as it doenst actually interfere in any possible way with their work, the employer should not have to do anything about it.

Sure they can always motivate them to quit, but firing someone because they do something that does not harm your company's image and doesnt affect its productivity significantly enough is retarded.

>>6209814
>>6216598
Pay the nofapper no mind anon, he has zero experience and is just parroting shit other people have drilled into his head.

Weed isn't tobacco. You probably shouldn't start at all, but it's more comparable to alcohol than anything. Alcohol is bad for you, but having a beer isn't going to turn you into an alcoholic (and you're probably not retarded enough to drive under the influence either).

Weed is a decently fun drug for get-togethers that you shouldn't go overboard on if you don't want to have a panic attack, and that's about all there is to it.
There's nothing special or super beneficial about it to a layman, nor is there anything evil and malicious lurking inside it that's going to latch onto you and ruin your life like a nicotine addiction, people get addicted to it because it's a form of escapism. It's a drug that makes you dizzy, numb, and stupid for a few hours, nothing more, nothing less.

(Just like masturbation is a healthy and normal way to relieve your sexual urges and flush out your reproductive fluids so long as you aren't destroying your dick multiple times a day every single day.)

>>6209686
I'm not even saying the rrat is real. I'm just specifying that it being over weed is certainly a possibility, which is ironic because Japan's anti-weed laws were entirely based on post WWII American influence and prior to that, they never really gave a shit.
>>6209814
Weed is super easy to quit. The addictive properties of weed are so mild that, unless you've been doing it daily for years you can quit cold turkey like it was nothing. The real problem with it, and the reason why most people end up addicted to it, is that weed makes you lazy, where frequent smokers will end up too lazy to put in even a little bit of effort to break such an easy habit to break.

>>6176719
>Died
The ultimate contract breach