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>Pomu had a dinner with a bunch of vshojos talents on Saturday
>Pomu's PL acc fangirls over Ironmouse (sneaky mouse)
>The next day she had a membership watchalong of Over The Garden Wall which was a yearly tradition, but she said that this will be her LAST WATCHALONG of it in niji.
>Elira and her clique caught wind of it and decided to start excluding her from group activities just like they did with Zaion.
I love Nijisanji Family!
We all love Nijisanji Family!
You will love Nijisanji Family!

>> No.61836867 [DELETED] 

>b-b-but she love nijisanji starting from Mito! She won't leave to join vshojo!
nijikek just said that today.

>> No.61836971

uh huh

>> No.61836994

>>61835405
>Pomu had a dinner with a bunch of vshojos talents on Saturday
Photographic proof?

>> No.61837017

Who knew that Pomu is graduating before Selen, or will both of them do it on the next graduation wave?

>> No.61837633

>>61836994
Watch her streams

>> No.61837669

>>61835405
potential new rrat
>Pomu and Selen are graduating soon
>Petra joining Ethyria now named Zuttomo
>Rosemi joining Lazulight, new name: TBA

>> No.61837718

>>61835405
>Dinner with vshojo on Saturday
Oh she is so fucking gone then huh

>> No.61837807

>>61837669
>Management decided to cut Pomu's 3D reservation because they know she's leaving anyway
ISREAL

>> No.61837850

>>61837017
Right now it's more likely that pomu is graduating before Selen.
Selen was still included in the off collab while they didn't wait for Pomu to arrive who just arrived later in time (if they waited).
Pomu's RM activity with Ironmouse and Vshojos is very very sus also.

>> No.61837909

>>61837807
I believe this rrat.

>> No.61838056

>>61837850
Vspo en next year so yeah.

>> No.61838235

>>61835405
Eeehhh... We don't care.
The new waves seems promising anyways. If she want to leave, she can leave. Better livers will replace her.
She always makes small nothingburger issues bigger than they should. Fucking drama queen

>> No.61838292

>>61835405
well, vshojo roach said that some of the niji talents were afraid to leave because they felt like they were nothing outside of niji and has been trying to convince them they're not. I wouldn't be surprised if pomu was one of them.

>> No.61838437

>>61837850
>>61838056
Selen killed the rrats about her graduating with that one "let's make future plans!" stream. She seemed pretty fed up with the rrats and intends on staying at least for another year+. Pomu is gone for sure and it's probably a done deal, ever since her old manager left

>> No.61838484

>>61838437
Mysta also said he isnt going anywhere and then a month later he quit

>> No.61838532

>>61835405
>Pomu had a dinner with a bunch of vshojos talents on Saturday
>Pomu's PL acc fangirls over Ironmouse
Proof of that? Watchalong is out of context because she said she wants to watch something else next year.

>> No.61838623

>>61835405
>The next day she had a membership watchalong of Over The Garden Wall which was a yearly tradition, but she said that this will be her LAST WATCHALONG of it in niji.
I thought it's just another made up shit until I checked and found out it's true.
Holy F
This is truly grim.
Did I miss something? What happened to pomu? The last issue I saw was about the MGS

>> No.61838714

>>61838235
>promising
>instant 3 views in 3 day, not even debut buff
nijikeks are funny.

>> No.61838760

They hired Vivi to replace Pomu

>> No.61838817

>>61838484
Mysta never said that, he made shit clear for a while he was done

>> No.61838857

>>61835405
expect to see a lot of new naratives about why pomu is actually a bad person in the coming months. all of nijien is proven to be /here/ and active, except ironically pomu who would know exactly how much the others truly hate her if she was still /here/.
And it seems like it already started >>61838235

>> No.61838931

>>61838437
>"let's make future plans!
And mysta said" im not graduating bitches" to his fans when he was already planning it months before. People lied anon, it's not rocket science.

>> No.61839190

>>61838714
Those three are still starting of course it will have low numbers for now. And there's no promotional content before their debut.
But still, they got such numbers without promos. That means something.
And they're entertaining desu. If given time and without any more drama attached to their names, they could slowly but surely get good community and following.
It's better to be a niche and get small but loyal fans desu than to be popular and get toxic simps like what happened to Gura.
And unlike pomu who seems become boring lately, these three knew how to slowly attract a community.

>> No.61839201

>>61838292
Nijisanji tends to do that. Even Roach had those feelings while in the company, according to Zaion.

>> No.61839198

My guess is that the next Niji to graduate will probably be someone who most anons would say "Who?"

>> No.61839249

>>61835405
Did this stream really need this many bait threads about it.

>> No.61839256

>>61837017
selen is still in with the clique so she's not leaving anytime soon. Pomu is now all but confirmed to graduate in 1-4 months. And she was the biggest niji fan going in....

>> No.61839317

>>61839198
Anons would say that even if it was Pomu or Selen just to meme about the holoboard.

>> No.61839442

>>61839256
Make it more than that. Palverse figures come out next Spring and that's a contractual obligation just like with Mysta . If she goes out she will resurface extremely fast judt like him.

>> No.61839446

>>61838235
Better livers might replace her but the writing is on the wall that the golden age is over for both all vtuber corpos. they'll struggle to catch up unless they're complete unicorns like the holo million girl was.

>> No.61839481

>>61838714
Once again, we don't care.
Pomu is an obsolete liver already who got big due to the pandemic wave and Myth popularity. Take it out and you get boring liver who ruined her chance to be on a cgdct with her drama.
If vshojokeks and holodrones want her, take her.
Another man's trash is another mans treasure as they say.

>> No.61839697

>>61838857
Right on point. Here comes the "we never wanted her anyway" posts
>>61839481

>> No.61839769

>>61835405
>>61836867
There is not a single chance in hell Riku would let that happen. Pomu is the jewel of EN. Can you imagine how embarrassing it would be if she left for another corpo?

>> No.61839921

>>61839481
Hololive doesn't recycle trash, that's Vshojo's job

>> No.61839982

>>61839190
>>61839481
These are unspeakable copes. The speed with which the narrative has gone from "it will never happen" to "if it does happen, then it's actually a good thing" is insane.

Pomu is going to be magnitudes more successful outside of Niji immediately upon her departure. It will be even more dramatic of a shift than Kuro or Matara.

>> No.61840010

>>61835405
Based
Fuck traitors
Pomu can go become Slutina the whore succubus in vshojo with n*na

>> No.61840020

>>61839921
Newfag holodrones, you forgot the retarded pink cringe princess of hololivejp?

>> No.61840049
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>>61839481
>obsolete liver
Wow, Nijifans really do have Riku as their oshi after all.

>>61839769
That's what people assumed about Luxiem to an extent, there was no way any members would ever want to leave there. But during that one shareholder meeting this year, it seems like Riku and the company are just indifferent. They won't do anything to really keep you there, they'll probably just consider it a "betrayal" or just guilt trip you into staying.

>> No.61840054

You faggots will believe anything holy shit.

>> No.61840085

>>61837633
No I want actual proof not "watch streams".

>> No.61840129

>>61837633
NTA but I don't want to and I haven't heard anything about this and I watch VShojo. Isn't she in Japan? Because I wouldn't call Kson "a bunch" of talents. If she went to Twitchcon then that opens up a lot more people like Mel IRL and Ironmouse via an iPad if she went to the VShojo party. Would also potentially explain the person Mouse kept mentioning that she saw at Twitchcon but couldn't talk about (in /vsj+/ we were thinking it was either Geega or a Holo)

>> No.61840161

>>61838623
This retard is lying btw

>> No.61840172

>>61838931
Maybe he thought things might improve and then they didn't. Either way mysterio never seemed to care about niji.

>> No.61840269

>>61839769
Pomu is still the only EN liver who's gone to Japan that Riku has not met face-to-face yet.

>> No.61840277

>>61839982
Yeah, lol Kuro and matara only got popular because of hype and early "oh this is that person!"
Once that dies down, they will get the worse numbers than what they had in NijisanjiEN. Vshojokeks and Holodrones are funny.
Kuro will never change btw, he speaks out about his loyal fujoniji fans. Then in Vshojo, he's already repeating the same thing. Hypocrite af. You got deceived by a diseased snek. Lmao

>> No.61840281

>>61840085
There isn't any because the second they give the clip it would immediately give context. like Pomu saying she wanted to watch something else next year instead of Over The Garden Wall

>> No.61840342

>>61840129
She didn't go to Twitchcon, she streamed normally during twitchcon weekend.

>> No.61840358

don't care, i'll still jerk off to her puffy tits no matter which company she streams for

>> No.61840405

>>61839769
Would the company really see her that way? It seems like they mostly look at numbers.

>> No.61840473

>>61835405
Luca is still in Niji, so why would pomu leave?

>> No.61840475

>61839481
>people actually unironically believe this is sincere and totally not a false flag
There is no hope for this board.

>> No.61840478

>>61840172
Its hard to really blame him. Even if he just kept to himself, he'd still have to worry about getting dragged into drama because of the rest of his branchmates doing dumb shit like the secret GC stream. Plus, being tied to Nijisanji was more of a stigma by the end than anything.

>> No.61840491

>>61839190
>>61839481
So which talent is this? Just so you know, I'll full force support her when she escapes you fucks.

>> No.61840490

>>61835405
Another one poached by ironmouse

>> No.61840492

>>61835405
Everyone will leave that sinking ship eventually there's a 100% better option awaiting them. Whether it is jumping ship to vshojo or becoming indi. hopefully, we see the old Indi clique back together minus pikamee

>> No.61840573

>>61840342
Did she do anything that couldn't be done portably? Like play a game with heavy required specs? Lots of streamers have laptops they're able to stream from if the need arises, and since Mel's stuck in Vegas it's how she's been streaming until she can go back home. Even tech-illiterate Mata has one, though last I heard she's currently lent it to Millie.

>> No.61840625

>>61840478
Mysta was involved with drama all by himself because he's more menhera than 99% of actual women

>> No.61840680

>>61840049
>Assuming that we exclude the cases of violations with compliance and controversy
I love how the billionaire CEO is still seething about Zaion.

>> No.61840701

>>61839446
Skill issue then.
The three new livers still got better numbers than Indies without much promotion. Imagine if they got good promotion.

>> No.61840804

>>61840625
Every time someone tried to tell me how menhera Mysta was and all the things he did, all I could see was a normal guy desperately trying to survive an absolutely maddening fanbase

>> No.61840877

>>61835405
Don't forget she is now excluded from AR Live and Obsydia 3D because everyone is already done recording for them and is coming back from Japan in the next few days.

>> No.61841027

>>61840020
nta
Luna became way more successful in Hololive. Don't forgot that nijikek.

>> No.61841090

>>61840804
ok. Maybe you should have actually wat bed him. he was and still is his own worst enemy. He lies constantly and focuses on negativity

>> No.61841115
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>>61839201
She's talked about it before yeah. I'd say a lot of that's just because they get absolutely blasted with a big audience that loves them from the outset as soon as they debut in Niji. Certainly bigger than anything they had while indie, and the fear of not being able to carry that on post graduation undoubtedly keeps some of them willing to put up with shit they wouldn't otherwise.

Mata's also talked a lot about her Niji friends while at VShojo, just never by name. She 100% keeps up with the Ethyria girls and Pomu. When she accidentally showed her desktop on stream a couple days ago she still had 2 image files on there with Pomu in the name.

>> No.61841168

>>61838532
>Proof
There is none. Someone made that up and spammed it in the niji thread until the monkeys caught wind of it

>> No.61841172

>>61840877
Literally just a straight up fabrication

>> No.61841234

>>61841090
>He lies constantly and focuses on negativity
Well nothing of the sort has happened for the entire last month so it's a little difficult to believe you

>> No.61841253

>>61841172
Literally just said by Millie on Reimu's birthday stream today.

>> No.61841507

>>61841253
again just a straight up lie.
>>61841234
you don't even watch him how would you know?

>> No.61841549

>>61835405
So she's going vshojo confirmed?

>> No.61841590

this is not true.

>> No.61841630

>>61841507
I've been watching him this last month and on top of that, his fans over in /vsj+/ keep talking about how happy he is now

So, y'know, maybe you're the one who isn't watching him

>> No.61841656

>>61835405
Mysta
>Menhera homo who calls out and says how he's tired of fujobaiting
>Gets back to fujobaiting in Vshojo
>Reaction Content trash
Nina
>Always rides on what could get her attention
>Supports SJW movement on her PL
>Becomes quiet about SJW movement and doesn't involve herself with it after being hired in Nijisanji, a proof of her plastic insincere personality.
Pomu
>"I want to be an idol!" Pretends to like something to gain the interest of those niche fans
>Sucks everyone's privates who could help her give attention and leeches to popular talents.
>Source of most drama in NijiEN
>Says controversial things intentionally to attract attention and views in her streams as she knows dramafags would take it out of context, this happened many times.
Enjoy your trash

At least Selen is smart to renew her contract with Nijisanji. She knew that the only thing she had to do during the hate waves was to endure and make it next year. She knew that haters and dramafags would just lose interest later on and move on to new things. She's also professional unlike that shotahag Zaion lmao.

>> No.61841658
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>>61841507
Go back nijinig
>>>/trash/

>> No.61841663

>>61841115
Maybe it's hololive's fault but with them you have some semblance of when someone leaves on good terms or not. With niji you get cut off all the same and disappear like you never existed even if the others still keep in contact behind the scenes.

>> No.61841674
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61841674

>>61839769
>not a single chance in hell Riku would let that happen.
kek, he wouldn't give a shit anon, I don't even think he knows her. He would only cry if he lost one of his precious boys

>> No.61841716

>>61837718
holos hang out with vshojos too at cons

>> No.61841837

>>61838857
This reminds me of the time some anon said the same about Selen, that nijiInterns would shit talk her in every thread and make threads about how shit she is and how she isolated herself to prevent her from going to VspoEN, lo and behold the next day there were lots of threads about why ''Selen sucks is not nijisanji's fault'', I hope people take your words into consideration anon.

>> No.61841847

>>61841658
kill yourself mintfaggot. Pomu isn't going anywhere

>> No.61841865

>>61841663
>Nijisanji in shambles
>somehow Holo's fault
you nijikeks are hilarious.

>> No.61841929

>>61841716
What this anon said. If this was simply a story of Pomu meeting people in VShojo then there'd be nothing to rrat about. Mori and Bae have done the same. It's when taken with the other stuff that it starts to get a bit more suspicious.

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>>61841847
>Pomu isn't going anywhere
You wish nijifag. Just like Mysta nd Nina weren't going anywhere LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.61841952

>>61841656
>>61838857

>> No.61842125 [DELETED] 

>>61841716
>B-b-but Holo!!!
Nijinigger behavior. classic.

>> No.61842189

>>61841931
Mysta and Nina never gave a fuck about Nijisanji. I'll see you in 6 months when she's still in Nji, mintnigger

>> No.61842222

>>61842189
Nijisanji fucking sucks though, why would you want that for your oshi?

>> No.61842255

>>61839769
>There is not a single chance in hell Riku would let that happen. Pomu is the jewel of EN. Can you imagine how embarrassing it would be if she left for another corpo?
are you being serious when you typed this cringe?

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61842299

>>61842189
Yeah see you shitposting about how Pomu is actually the worst person in the world just because she dared to strive for more in 6 months ;)

>> No.61842356

>>61842222
nobody has pomu as an oshi anymore

>> No.61842412
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61842412

>>61841931
Anon, (You)'re better than this, don't take the bait.

>> No.61842416

>>61842189
Maybe there's still a sense of pride in being associated with NijiJP, but there absolutely is none with being part of NijiEN. They also shuttered or absorbed other branches too, they'd do the same here.

>> No.61842424

>>61842222
His oshi IS Nijisanji

>> No.61842444

>>61838857
Another one
>>61842356

>> No.61842472

>>61842356
nta.
nijikeks told me she is their oshi, they just don't watch her.

>> No.61842501

>>61842299
>>61842222
>>61842416
cope and seethe
Pomu isn't going anywhere

>> No.61842538

>>61841716
nice headcanon

>> No.61842592

>>61842222
Victoria liked it enough to join

>> No.61842651

>>61842592
She is clearly in the clique

>> No.61842679

>>61842651
nice cope

>> No.61842776

>>61839769
>Riku
>embarrassing
Name a more dynamic duo

>> No.61842781

>>61842501
Its just as likely that Pomu can choose not to renew her contract when she gets to Japan.

>> No.61842870

>>61842222
>Nijisanji fucking sucks
NijiEN*

>> No.61842906

>>61838235
I commend this bait, you actually caught a few

>> No.61842905

>>61842416
foreign branches require time and money to invest because it's literally a new market. Niji never understood this and that's why all their foreign branches fail except for virtua real which is under chinese management. The niji name can only go so far.
I hope vspo learns a lesson from niji and actually gives them some investment into its hires so they don't end up like niji.

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>>61842501
The only one coping and seething here is (You) nijitard

>> No.61843046

>>61842776
retard

>> No.61843064

>>61842781
I guess, but it's not likely at all.
>>61842945
I'm not the one coping and hoping that she's leaving

>> No.61843098

>>61842125
just saying if going to a vshojo party meant they're graduating and reincarnating there then holoen is fucked

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>>61843064

>> No.61843155

>>61842501
Mysta isn't going anywhere
Nina isn't going anywhere
Pomu isn't going anywhere (You are here)

>> No.61843178

>>61842444
calm down pomukek

>> No.61843208

>>61843155
see
>>61842189

>> No.61843262

Tourist here, isn't she a huge niji nerd and fan? Kinda grim if true.

>> No.61843307

>>61843156
run out of Mint images, faggot? Maybe you should actually watch her streams.
>>61843262
She is. None of the shit posted herecis even true

>> No.61843313

>>61843064
Pomu is a wild card right now. Anything could happen because its clear she isn't terribly happy with her 3D being delayed indefinitely, or some projects getting canned.

>> No.61843326

>>61841716
Anon, HoloEN has a better management now, they had a bad one before but nothing compared to be as bad as nijisanji.

>> No.61843443

>>61843262
>isn't she a huge niji nerd and fan?
Fuck no lol. Her kamioshi is Pikamee/Henya, and she watches more Hololive than she ever watched niji. Like she recommended Korone to her nieces.
The whole thing about her being some huge nijinerd is just nijifags coping about her graduating.

>> No.61843498

This whole thread is based on /#/ believing wholesale the bullshit that gets said on /NijiEN/ because they don't watch streams to confirm what is being said is true or not. Absolutely hilarious.

>> No.61843565

>>61843208
see
>>New wave
and look down, it is a sinking ship.
Pragmatism over idealism, it is a job, not just anime girl roleplaying for fun.

>> No.61843583

>>61839769
heh
I know you can't be serious.
But your post would age as badly as your mom.

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61843649

COMPLETE
NIJIFAG
DEATH

>> No.61843655

>>61843498
what do you expect? They're probably too ESL to even understand her. Like this retard who is peddling something that was literally fabricated in /nijien/ >>61843313

>> No.61843717

>>61843649
found your 3rd Mint image finally? It's not like you ever watched her

>> No.61843736

>>61841716
Which holos?

>> No.61843764

>>61843717
Post membership nijifag, let's see if you actually watched her

>> No.61843793

holy molly niji sisters coping left and right all around
absolute spectacle lmaooo

>> No.61843809

Is pomu Mori of NijiEN?

>> No.61843843

>>61843498
but if NijiEN once again make the rrat come true, you will be all quiet and nowhere to be seem.

>> No.61843862

>>61843764
you first

>> No.61843870

>>61843655
I don't think you guys understand that Pomu's pl spent years trying to be an idol in and out of Japan. There are still archives of her speaking fluent Japanese. There is no language barrier. Niji management just hate her.

>> No.61843929

>>61843870
kek you really are ESL.

>> No.61843997

>>61843809
No, she's their Kiara but she wasn't needed for a leadership role.

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>>61843862
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO the absolute cope in this post, nijinigs in shambles. BTW I'm a pomie, dilate nijifaggot. I want only the best for my kamioshi and niji ain't that.

>> No.61844055

>>61843870
>Pomu's pl spent years trying to be an idol in and out of Japan.
Just watch, Pomu joins vshojo and like with Henya, Gunrun will have her 3D and a live concert ready for within literal months

>> No.61844106

>>61844017
Nijisissies in shambles

>> No.61844108

>>61835405
>Finana finally shows enough restraint to not invite a male to "girls' night"
>she doesn't invite Pomu, because this way she can make it look like Pomu was the problem
scheming bitch

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>>61844017
and you think a weeb like Pomu would join a shitty western company like vshitshow?

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61844189

another liver transplant i see... Welp, we will take this one too.

>> No.61844227

>>61844163
Considering how she left her other weeb-related job that she was doing until 2020, yes.

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>>61844108
But still dumb enough to keep her archives up

>> No.61844311

>>61844227
her other weeb related job didn't have the same opportunites and money

>> No.61844314

>>61844227
That was because of Japan closing its borders due to covid

>> No.61844368

>>61844163
Doesn't Vshojo have more authentic Japanese girls than NijisanjiEN?

>> No.61844398

>>61843655
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1KIiQjmY74&t=2085s
Pomu said she'd be gone only half of November and not for a good reason. Mostly because something she worked on got cancelled. It does not sound like someone happy with her current situation. And it sounds like it was related to this tweet
https://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1711927959311823252
And she was still depressed over her lack of a 3D model.
https://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1689125300414693376

NijiEN isnt a great corp and Pomu very much isnt happy right now. She should be somewhere better that can actually care for their talents and Nijisanji is not that place. The only thing that corp prioritizes is profits at any expense, and that's it.

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>>61844163
Vshojo has
>Henya, her kamioshi
>Matara, her only friend she made in niji
>3D and a concert that will take less than 6 months like Henya's
Niji has
>bunch of backstabbing whores that couldn't even wait 2 days to include her in a full LOE offcollab
>no 3D despite it getting "fixed" for a year
>projects constantly rejected or cancelled right before completion

>> No.61844426

>>61844163
What about VShojo is shitty, exactly?
Is it the total freedom to do whatever content she wants?
Is it the management that actually supports the talents?
Is it the higher cut of merch and untouched stream revenue?
Is it the full ownership of her model and IP?

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>>61844368
no? Elira, Kotoka and Meloco plus literally the entire JP side

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Nijisisters having full on melty now that the Daisenpai of EN is leaving lmao

>> No.61844542

>>61844424
I feel like you aren't being genuine and are just funposting to get a rise out of people

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