/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://vt.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

So what did we learn from the last thread anons?

/#/ is inclining

>>61789147

Kiara is never recovering this waiting room

>>61789109
Recent clip numbers
>>61728716
>>61728744
>>61728767
>>61728792
>>61728819

MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD

>>61789147
I was going to say that Nijikeks are shameless but I've always known that.

I find it honestly funny Stars haven't really done that much for holoPro like at all. Most of the international events were done by the girls, and the only time I saw regis and roberu was when taiwanese got mad that they included them in the gacha with the others

>>61789173
NEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Ui 49.2M
Less than 800k to go

>>61789147
Nijisanji and Hal will NEVER recover from this

>>61789147
Niji fans are mad they keep getting treated the same way they treat everyone else

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>127,696: Haachama (Hololive)
>79,587: Pekora (Hololive)
>48,607: Matsuri (Hololive)
>29,077: Miko (Hololive)
>22,951: Subaru (Hololive)
>17,718: Fuwamoco (Hololive)
>16,934: Lize (Nijisanji)
>16,548: Chaika (Nijisanji)
>15,614: Okayu (Hololive)
>14,702: Shiori (Hololive)
>13,722: Korone (Hololive)
>13,616: Chiroru (Indie)
>12,711: Kanade (Hololive)
>12,597: Aki (Hololive)
>12,162: Calliope (Hololive)
>10,853: Koyori (Hololive)

>>61789147
Square Enix runs NijiEN's naming division

>>61789147
That mumei karaoke averages is 15k According to this thread.

>>61789239
>Kiara get this outfit specifically just to shill JRPG with it
Geez

/#/ is a cunny general.

>>61789172

>Kiara way outside her usual timeslot
>Shill stream
>5K
HOLY INCLINE

>>61789209
Well at least the peak counts.
Also every HoloEN stream cripple tallied today

>>61789147
that i kissed koseki,bae,anya,lyrica,hajime and mumei through my screen

>>61789268
fuck off nijishill

>>61789268
PROTECT OUR CGDGT AT ALL COST NIJIBROS

>>61789233
>NOVEMBER 2023 GOLDS
1) Haachama (Hololive) - 127,696 - Return Stream

>PER COMPANY
1x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
1x: Haachama

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
213x: Hololive
71x: Nijisanji
10x: Indie
6x: VSPO
5x: Neo-Porte

>PER STREAMER
67x: Pekora
26x: Miko
19x: Marine
12x: Kuzuha
10x: Hololive, Subaru
9x: Nijisanji, Suisei
8x: Toya
6x: Aqua
5x: Hal, Yashiro
4x: Chiroru, Fuwa, Iroha, Leos, Mio, Okayu, Shiina, Towa
3x: Flare, Fubuki, Koyori, Lamy, Lui, NeruMero, Watame
2x: Aki, Fuwamoco, Hajime, Hinano, Ibrahim, Korone, Maimoto, Mel, Salome, Shion, Tsukasa
1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Botan, Chloe, Choco, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Haachama, Hibari, Himawari, Hololive English, Ina, Kaede, Kanade, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Kobo, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Lize, Luna, Met, Mito, Mori, Mumei, Mysta, Noel, Nose, Nozomi, Nui, Polka, Ponto, Qpi, Raden, Rikiichi, Rion, Roco, ROF-MAO, Ryushen

>>61789147
# doesn't know who's the biggest numberfag in promise ?

>>61789287
meanwhile, in nijien...

>>61789311
Bae

>>61789288
Kaela..

>>61789345

>>61789245
Are people here too new to remember how she was practically guaranteed a 15k stream every week for around five months because of how frequently she did unarchived karaoke? There’s maybe 3-4 during her slump period that people keep pointing to.

>>61789311
IRyS

>>61789147
There's still hope for GFE in NijiEN in Pomu, Rosemi, Kotoka, and Vivi

>>61789311
irys

>>61789311
I love her but its IRyS

>>61789311
None of them really. It would be easy for a lot of them to boost their numbers in a few ways but they don't.
Seemed like it was IRyS at one point, but she doesn't seem to bothered about numbers anymore

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY *
>11/1 DAILY TALLY
17,718: FuwaMoco (Hololive)
14,021: Shiori (Hololive)
12,162: Mori (Hololive)
8,901: Mumei (Hololive)
8,470: Fauna (Hololive)
7,145: FuwaMoco (Hololive)
6,679: Kiara (Hololive)
6,671: Amelia (Hololive)
5,597: Uki (Nijisanji)


>EN GOLDS FOR NOVEMBER 2023
1) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 17,718 - Spooky Stories

>PER COMPANY
1x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
1x: FuwaMoco

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
5p: FuwaMoco
3p: Shiori
1p: Mori

QRD why is catalog talking about graduation

>>61789284
when she does shill streams she doesn't talk about herself too much and she rarely falls into "chicken voice"
best Kiara

>>61789398
>Pomu, Rosemi, Kotoka,
>GFE
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

>>61789268
i'm fucking tired, of you who clearly comes from /nijien/, the sisters who use her as bait for shitposts and from catalogfags shitting up her chat as if she were in holoEN

>>61789398
Fuck off cuck don't pair my Vivian with your used whores

>>61789434
BVTM raid

>>61789416
>counting in a bot stream

>>61789434
>he wants the quick Reandown
Haha, guess it's time to not hold back
>orphaned and adopted into a Noble family
>final student of a legendary swordsman
>secret son of the mysterious big bad who's actually good
>such a chad that he not only adds every woman to his ever-expanding harem but also the men
>his sister and her friend (who is the royal princess)'s vaginas becomes waterfalls at the sheer mention of his name
>chosen to pilot an ancient super mecha
>masters and can fully control his *psh nothin personell kid" demonic powers
>wields a tachi and can teleport behind you
>beats one of the most powerful swordsmen in history that's hyped up in Trails in the Sky
>grows up to become a teacher, can romance his underage students
>just saying "haha" makes everybody drop their pants for him
>uses the power of friendship to defeat the true antagonist interdimensional hatred curse that appears at the last second
>is technically royalty, his biological father is the reincarnation of an ancient Emperor
>breaks up budding romances between other characters that were developing in the third game because everybody sucks his dick in the fourth game
>even the protagonists of previous games hype him up
>kills himself in a noble self sacrifice with his fujobait boyfriend to break a curse but not really because the even bigger bigger villains rewrite the timeline to get the true ending
>becomes one of the strongest characters on the continent
>has the option to cuck Estelle away from Joshua, Tita away from Agate, Tio away from Lloyd, etc.
>now a version of himself from an alternate timeline is trying to kill him because he's too chad
>awakens a new inner power to combat this alternate self, giving him heterochromia in the process
>tops Japanese official popularity polls, brought his franchise to the spotlight,
>made it so that the majority of the franchise's games are about him
>is the writer's favorite character, writer goes on to call the previous protagonists embarrassing

>>61789435
retard

>>61788932
kys

>>61789311
I used to think it was IRyS but it's really hard to justify that these days
I just know the least numberfaggy in promise is Kronii, everyone else has at least some argument you can use. Kronii actively runs away from buff.

I LOVE KOSEKI

>>61789204
They just don't have the draw and it's harder to hide their metrics when Cover can't bundle them as part of holopro as a whole.

>>61789476
You too crossposter

>>61789462
What's wrong with counting?

>>61789411
A numberfag is just someone obsessed with numbers. That doesn't mean she can incline her numbers or knows how to.

>>61789398
Do nijifags really?

My cute princess wife

plapseki bitchju

>>61789311
Well everyone knows it's definitely not Kronii at least

Guys, Kiara is streaming too..

When is shiori karaoke?

>>61789527
I'm glad I spent the time to watch the entire playthrough, it's only a shame it wasn't longer

>>61789416
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
237x: Hololive
64x: Nijisanji
3x: Holostars
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
30x: Fauna
27x: FuwaMoco
26x: Mori, Mumei
24x: Gura
18x: IRyS
15x: Baelz, Ina, Kronii
14x: Mysta
12x: Amelia
10x: Bijou, Kiara
9x: Vox
4x: Pomu, Ren, Selen, Shu
3x: Hololive English, Luca, Nerissa, Nina, Shiori
2x: Alban, Finana, Ike, Wilson
1x: Bandage, Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Kyo, Luxiem, Millie, Petra, Regis, Roca, Rosemi, Sonny, Vesper, Victoria

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
269p: Fauna
241p: FuwaMoco
212p: Mumei
206p: Mori
175p: Ina
173p: IRyS
149p: Baelz
129p: Gura
117p: Kronii
105p: Mysta
102p: Bijou
99p: Kiara
97p: Amelia
75p: Luca
74p: Vox
48p: Nerissa
37p: Shu
35p: Shiori
31p: Selen
29p: Pomu
24p: Nina
21p: Ren
19p: Ike
18p: Enna
17p: Sonny
15p: Fulgur, Hololive English, Uki
13p: Finana, Millie
11p: Axel
10p: Alban, Elira, Kotoka, Wilson
9p: Vesper
7p: Regis
6p: Bandage, Kyo, Rosemi
5p: Flayon, Luxiem, Petra, Roca, Victoria
4p: Bringer, Magni
3p: Bettel, Claude, Hakka
2p: Meloco
1p: Kunai, Maria, Shinri, Pippa, Poko

>>61789547
I'm watching her but she's in the intro of a JRPG, there's no much to talk about

>>61789517
this was fucking annoying, sisters telling "you only love to make big things luca did just because you hate it" then what the fuck was he doing there?

>>61789411
I would have argued against the guy last thread who said Mumei, but then I remembered how being ranked lowest in EN at shilling lives in her head rent free and realized that might be the closest you’ll get. She’s scared of her CCV and doesn’t care how much she gets in SCs, but she really wants to be the best shill.

>>61789268
speak with your wallet

Discuss the fact that more than half of Mori's golds are collabs.

>1 hour past the raid and still above 2k
Victoria is impressive relative to her gen, but let's see where her audience will all collapse.

>>61789515
IRyS has loosened up on a lot of that though, probably since the promise change

Everyone we unironically agree that any Nijiliver who can't one up Kiara's CCV right now is a disgrace to all vtubers and should never stream again.

Anyone who can't go above the runt, deserves to leave

>>61789620
When she will eventually Collab with Luca or uki

>>61789616
What's there to discuss? Mori lost the ability to naturally win cripple gold most days back in 2021 already when she spammed metroidvania games and she organizes the most collabs in HoloEN, which is a good thing since most of them are passive as fuck.

>>61789204
Anon, Tempus is invited to IndoCon, now NYC.

>>61789527
It may be the voice of the Smitten talking to me but I cannot go a day without thinking about her

>>61789656
not collab with luca or kyo please, i fucking hate them and their fans, also aloupeeps i hate them too

>>61789147
That people in /# want to fuck animals, you sick fucks

>>61789620
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

>>61789311
Mumei

daily reminder that fuwawa is my slut

>>61789294
this made me laugh, fuck you for that

We learnt all corpo EN's will never beat Myth, Promise and Adven-
(okay minus Shiori)

>>61789327
Hey, they got a few on the tally. That is a HUGE improvement

>>61789789
or unraided mori

>>61789789
are you serious?

>>61789766
No... My Vivi... SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN HOLO GOD I FUCKING HATE KUROSANJI SANJI

>>61789311
Fauna

>>61789828

>>61789694
NTA, but that is not because of their own value.

>>61789789
Ame too, she's cute but her numbers suck the shit out of my ass

>>61789850
sister, please fuck off, you don't even watch her

Is there any niji graduation stream this month
Or is there still chance of 30-0 this month

>>61789557
2 weeks

>>61789876
Ame was cute. But that was a long time ago. Her superliminal stream is still one of my favourite streams ever

>>61789901
They can always debut TTT's sister wave this month

>>61789311
Ina!

>>61789147
That Kronii is going to take the next week off and not sure if she can stream or not

>>61789925
That is an ugly ass model.

Ame is transferring to management next year.

>>61789866

>>61789901
does nijiID count?

>>61789915
I miss her..

>>61789925
dude bends over backwards to avoid HoloEN these days and you guys still can't stop bringing up his 3view ass

>>61789964
That is not a bad end. We can finally get EN A-chan

>>61789966

>>61789973
Not for cripple tally, no

>>61789973
>nijiID
what was azura's graduation stream peak ccv again

>>61789992
He should about Cover corp and graduate

>>61789557
she has to come up with a theme that's extremely disappointing to us
"songs that mention mushrooms but they're not psychedelic rock or stoner metal"

>>61789866
I like this one more, but that's cute too

>>61790008
no idea
but I do remember Hyona's though

>>61789620
Spoke far too soon there, it still hasn't been an hour and she's lost more then half the raid.
She's also still in her debut buff, for what it's worth in NijiEN these days

>>61790030
yeah, just like bush accidentally the economy too

>>61790037
It'll be more emo high school early 2000's songs again

>>61789997

>>61789958
Both of them are

>>61789880
nobody fucking does, that's the joke

>>61789216
Do we have a race?

>>61790079
wait are you editing this yourself?

>>61790062
why the hell is nijiEN's retention so shit, even among girl-to-girl raids?

>>61789966
>>61790079
KEK

>>61789966
Don't do my boy Sukuna like that, he has a weak host and not all of his fingers are back. In his OG form he would kick ass.

>>61789997
>.ft anonymous
>Cryingcuckeddeadbeat.jpg

>>61790056
which ID male was the one that got a peak of 999?

>>61790121
Nijisanji does not have a box, and waht little they have only exists amongst the males

>>61789616
that's for collabs, but I'm very sure that most of her better numbers this year come from raids, specially after advent

Amount of excitement for tempiss in the quote tweets of the EN HoloPro
is something else You could be mistaken for thinking they were the main draw kek

>>61790105
I hate it so much and I don't get peoples likeness for it.

>>61790105
this animation feels like a psy-op.

>>61790135
isn't he in OG form right now?

>>61789992
He barely gets shit in this thread anymore, he actually gets mostly ignored

wtf Kiara???

>>61790145
Mori also abused suika game the most out of EN and got some pretty good numbers out of it. Her karaokes have mostly fallen off hard, like Ame, after 3 years of saturation, but raids have saved her peaks a few times.

>>61790200
Yes indeed numbers, Kiara is the top dog of EN

>>61790200
NEALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

>>61786555
did Marine confirm that she's doing another one?
that concert is something I rewatch regularly, it's so good.

>>61790200
her channel got cursed for sure...

>>61790200
Nerissa doing her job as KFP prime, bumping up her oshi's numbers more than any of the fuckers on this board can

>>61790200
Kiara deserves to incline the most.

>>61790151
Remember how Nijisani has great Twitter interaction? Just a random thought I had

>>61790105
>shigure ui released sept. 10
>digital circus released oct. 14
not really unless digital circus stalls

>>61790188
No? Four arms and a mouth on his stomach.

>>61790200
Bots got culled

>>61789620

>>61790151
If only they could monetize twitter engagement they probably do pretty well

>>61789182
> Fungus
> Bondage
kek did he really show that on stream?

Remember the hololive law

When one returns, another has to go.


It's the golden law

I LOVE HOLOLIVE

>>61790339
Shinri is on break right now, oh no...

>>61790278
It's the same people for sure, or close enough. Pretty sure Tempiss and NijiEN have closer chat overlap than tempiss and EN does nowadays

>>61790349
he looks like regis
wait a minute...

>>61790285
but he's actually back though

>>61790378
Ragus wishes he had a fraction of Rean's drip.

>>61789268
trying to do CGDCT in NijiEN seems like a fool's errand, especially when her genmate is a male.

>>61789845
It seems every month we are always so close to the holoEN clean sweep, but never quite manage it

>girls off collab
Did uki join?

Am I dumb or is the superchat countdown meter thing new?

>>61790413
She just need to be "sick" for every gen collab until claw graduates or she does. Easy

>>61790299
>meloco
>elira
>good girl
Ahahahahahhaha

>>61790444
>Am I dumb
yes

>>61790393
I HAVE NOT SEEN THIS WTF WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN WHERE HAVE I BEEN WHAT CHAPTER??
holyshit I feel so out of touch, I've been focused on Spy x Family and Dr. Stone..

>>61790433
Surprisingly, there weren't any boys present. Probably the first time in NijiEN history where a "girls only" stream wasn't interrupted by one of the sexpests.

>>61790299
>hey rosebuds

>>61790200
Waiting room raids are cancer, we've known this since forever.

>>61790299
this was made by a nijisister, it's so obvious

>>61790465
:(

>>61790299
the tiers should be how much they can/should be saved
tier one is Yagoo

promise > myth > advent

>>61790465
nta but that's very rude anon

>>61790487
as of chapter 238

>>61790499
have they really learned their lesson?

>>61790519
Gloves are stupid

>>61790487
Like literally the last 3 chapters you mongo.

>>61790519
rape

>>61790570
>>61790588
Aaa so it's kinda fresh still. Thank you anon's.

>>61790570
>have they really learned their lesson?
I mean, it's NijiEN. The answer is probably not, but it's good that they aren't treating the girls like sex toys anymore at least.

>>61790570
>have they really learned their lesson?
It doesn't matter if they do. Not doing co-ed collabs is impossible in Nijisaji for a plethora of reasons

>>61789616
>more than half
>13/26

>>61790366
So is Vesper hope nothing happens to him

speaking of morikuna

Looks like Vspo got 3D tracksuits
https://youtu.be/yepA4o4XjWk

>>61790673
kek

>>61790671
He's probably fishing in some lake. He will be back soon

>>61790673
>only two mouths
meh

>>61790570
Damn, niji bend to idol culture huh

>>61790371
That's been true every time I've checked, NijiEN also beats Tempiss for overlap on HoloEN streams. Interestingly Dev_is has started overtaking both on HoloEN chat overlap.

>>61790717
>holo has 3d school uniforms
>vspo has 3d tracksuits
what does niji have?

>>61790519

>>61790782
come here you rat

I think I love Hololive TOO much...

>>61790731

>>61790763
>Interestingly Dev_is has started overtaking both on HoloEN chat overlap.
All thanks to kawaii positive genius

>>61790782
>>61790823

Huh, seems like holo management reinstated the hololive ark server, so november will be ark and sf6 for hololive, while niji and vspo will be valorant and vcr gta

>>61790428
If NijiEN is threatened with a a sweep, they’re still able to push the ACCELERATE button. They’re truly dead when that finally fails.

>>61790875

oh right, shuba with zuban sponsor stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdqFtQBlqSQ

>>61790915
Fuck. 2020 killed all interest in Ark and Apex

>>61790717
why do they have a kid?

Towa is in Ark, did they start a new server or something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9Ln8CbEdG0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9Ln8CbEdG0
5k CCV, I don't think you guys realize how impressive this is, especially since its a fucking SPONSORED EN STREAM

>>61791063
It's also a JRPG with old looking graphics

>>61790570
niji brand was always about variety, there were both CGDCT girls, foul mouthed male collabing girls, lolichads like Toya, weirdo models like Debi, chaika and shiba, tokyo ghoul, middle eastern dudes etc. etc.
The appeal of the "group" was that they all were mostly doing their own thing, but would sometimes come together and create kino shit, similar to how crossovers work in other media. The rarity of such events was part of the appeal.

NijiEN lacks a lot of things that made NijiJP special - there's no weird clown models or animal models anymore, it's all just gacha copypastes. And every nijien is collabing almost all the time so there's no real "hype" during a big event since those aren't really that rare.

Nerissa fed wawa a spoonful of viewers, but she's kept 5k+ for an hour now on a shill JRPG stream.
This might unironically be a better time for Kiara than her usual timeslot lmfao.

40M club

>>61791118
>2am EST is a better timeslot for Kiara than yuro hours
jesus fucking christ, watch streams eurofags

>>61791118
This is why I like raid. We should thank advent for this desu

>>61791063
I guess you missed the Nerissa 5k+ raid into the waiting room
>>61790200
At least the retentions is good, hopefully the sponsors are happy with this number

>>61789616
Are you not counting open vc?

Anytime kiara streams this early her numbers are better

>>61791117
I also wouldn't be surprised if NijiEN's popularity nosedived because of the constant drama and graduations too. That shit hurts morale really badly, especially since many people watch corpo vtubing especially to avoid twitch dramafag culture. Mysta and Nina leaving and then joining Vshojo in a few months is very damaging.
The whole "Niji saturation" thing also appears to bother western audiences more than JP audiences, but then again, it's not like NijiJP new debuts are doing hot either.

I'm so glad HoloEN doesn't do that stupid Hopcon shit NijiEN does.

>hololive
>No one is live

>>61789476
Fauna has a really ugly voice

>>61791185
This but unironically.

holy shit why'd they do it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmM9gJoU9_c&ab

Fucking niji ass humor

>>61791296
>t.deafchama

>>61791296
Retard

Fauna is mine and mine alone

>>61791117
>The rarity of such events was part of the appeal.
A lesson that went entirely missing on NijiEN and, quite the contrary, early on on NijiEN their (then ex-Holo) audience crowed about the superiority of their
>always open VC, constant impromptu collabs
model.

It was funny as fuck when that backfired greatly and "always open VC, constant impromptu collabs" resulted in Luxiem barging in into FUCKING MEMBER STREAMS of the girls

>>61791117
>niji brand was always about variety
and this is why the family branding was always destined for failure

>>61789517
Wait, did this actually happen?
Okay, maybe you retards have a point about NIJI/Luca, that's hilarious.

>>61791296
Wasn't she doing weekly vocal lessons?

>>61791296
Kill yourself

>>61791284
NijiEN hopcon is literally just open VC during FPS streams and every HoloEN FPS streams (which are rare to begin with) would've been improved with open VC. If I'm going to watch the girls suck at FPS games, I might as well watch some banter as well.

>>61791336
god imagine a threesome with fauna, shiori and me

>>61791340
Wait they barged into member's stream
How?

>>61789766
Based sister for not watching fake GFE

>>61791186
A good amount of viewers desired to stay.

>>61791340
>barging in into FUCKING MEMBER STREAMS
I knew it was bad, but what the actual fuck?

>>61791296
Yeah she sounds like a tranny with that squeakyness she has

>>61791368
holoEN hopcon might work because homos aren't free to join this time

>>61791340
Kek imagine if vesper had tried to do that

Altar mentioned

>>61789209
The Nijinigger style, she truly fits with them.

>>61791382
>Wait they barged into member's stream
kek, you spring chickins don't know half of what transpired when Luxiem debuted.

Someone will certainly bring the exact girl, the exact Luxiem and the stream in question, I'm not in a position right now to bring the receipts

>>61791417
>thinking he didn't try to do that only for it to get shot down
>yes, even with omega under management

>>61791118
She did pretty well when she got some raids from FWMC before.
Kiara's problem in her usual slot is that she's completely isolated. If she streamed a bit later and could feed into Ina/Fauna her numbers would be better. If Cover hired another girl or two to stream between her and Ina/Fauna would also give her a boost

>>61791441
Newfag, if this was niji behavior, Kiara would recover her waiting room in the first 3 minutes and peak at 10 mins

>>61790299
Please save Selen...

My mind is once again consumed by thoughts of them.

>>61791450
Kiara's probably is that she the "3rd favorite" problem.

Why NijiEN pivoted to segregation of gender?
First the got Victoria and now all girls collab without male interuption

>>61790915
Fuck this fucking shit, I'm going to take a break from hololive

Doing my /baubau/ reps.
Did Ollie do surprise male collabs and entrap her fellow holomems in them, or is that just conjecture?

>>61791550
Just watch Fauna

Welp peko gold, fgo gacha, seems like she shelved the horror game for now due to same game overlap

>>61791548
Victoria is in a mix gen.

>>61791350
>>54215473

HoloSF6 tournament?

>>61789616
over 15% of her golds have graduated.

>>61791548
Because the branch is on death's door?

>>61791340
The always collabing is probably what killed a lot the new gens to.
They pretty much immediately get shovelled into the collab blob and never have a chance to establish their own identity and audience

>>61791296
You've got anons going for your throat and I don't think "ugly" is the right word to use for it, but her voice was undoubtedly a filter at the beginning
and it still might be permanent debuff to her ceiling and part of the reason why she can't hit the highs that Mumei and Kronii can

>>61789398
>Kotoka
anon, i...
there's a decent chance you'll get to watch her girlfriend experience with another man once she graduates though

FUWAMOCO Ch. hololive-EN
3 minutes ago
Members only
Which do you think is more of a priority?
Fatal Frame (PS2)
20%
METAL GEAR SOLID
60%
Resident Evil 4 Remake (we will finish no matter the poll result)
20%

>>61791559
>Did Ollie do surprise male collabs and entrap her fellow holomems in them
She tried, scheduled a collab in which neither the Holostars knew there would be Hololive girls nor vice versa.
The Holostars took the "cavalier" fall, announced to Ollie that they just remembered they had a previous commitment for the same date and BAILED THE FUCK OUT!

Second time was the "Kureiji Arcade" thing, in which the girls had no idea of the format or the participants until Ollie announced it as a all branches all agencies full participation APEX tournament
>then let it simmer for 24 hours filled with speculations, as it had both Gura and the Holostars, to give an idea of the absurdity of it
then and only then explained that it would actually be separated events

>>61791624
Wuffians have good taste, but i think that's a debuff...

>>61791640
It's why I have zero sympathy whenever she goes "WOE IS ME" since she is the cause of her own problems.

>>61791582
Unironically soon

>>61791550
I blame japniggers who religiously watch Aki ARK

>>61791602
>Kronii
Welcome back from 2021

>>61791655
all of the options are debuffs
start dark souls, cuphead, elden ring, anything modern
stop playing old games barely anyone cares about

>>61791655
They’re all debuffs.

>>61791671
3D debut showed Kronii's peak is still higher than Fauna's, even if her floor and general consistency is lower.

>>61791624
Better than most games they play, plus they'll probably play it on the actual hardware. Interested to see how it does for them.

>>61791640
On the bright side, it helped elucidate the positions of all holoEN members on the topic of mixed shit extremely well. I doubt anything has changed

>>61791569
Sub 30k kusa.

>>61791407
yeah I mean holoEN "hopcon" is just "Open VC", fans love it because nomales.
I know this is a bold, brave take, but 70% of NijiEN's problems are due to the co-ed nature of it. Both the nijidudes and nijigals would have been better off if they were nijisegregated. Or, I guess perhaps more accurately, the Nijidudes would have been the same and the nijigirls wouldn't have had their careers and prospects self-destruct.

>>61791571
jesus christ

>>61791671
We're talking ceilings here, and in that regard nothing has changed

>>61791640
Fucking hell, she really belongs in nijiEN.

>>61791705
>>61791709
MGS isn't a debuff, wtf? It's peak retro game, exactly what they want for their channel.

>>61789733

>>61791640
Ollie would have saved herself a lot of trouble if she stopped for 5 minutes and actually took into consideration what the other talents actually wanted

>>61791061
Yeah Aki asked the management for Ark server

>>61791747
NTA, but
>equating tourist heavy events with standard streams
You're either a retard or baiting.

>>61791747
Special events are outliers, the daily and weekly churn is what I meant

>>61791756
>mgs being a buff in 2023
only pekora can pull that off
mori spent most of her streams around 4k before the raids, theres very few peak moments anyone can look forward to in those games and you need HOURS of pretty much nothing to get there

>>61791734
>70% of NijiEN's problems are due to the co-ed nature of it.
Naw if they did, they'll just be diet HoloEN, like the first 3 NijiEN waves. The guys might benefit in a purely male environment, but the girls would be no different from Phase, idol ...etc.
We have almost a year of pure female NijiEN and it didn't perform any better than now. Their problem is talent scouting and letting shitters pollute their ranks, lowering the prestige of the brand and adding to saturation.

>>61791755
>Fucking hell, she really belongs in nijiEN.
You have no idea, I like to bring this one episode because it shows exactly how much Ollie manage to not only be completely out of place in Hololive but also a TERRIBLY influence on anyone that happens to have any contact with her and, in the process, she gave one of the few wins for NijiEN over Hololive EVER

Here is the transcript of one of the most shameful moments in the whole "nijibeggar / nijification" era was that collab between Ollie, Zeta and Selen
>here for two clips on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99bOLHhiHF8 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aDN4bWlmIo
and it was not just the toilet humor, with Zeta saying quite literally
>I'm just holding myself back because I kinda wanna take a dump
(which she went, btw)
That was bad, a lot of their interactions from that point on was at that puerile "pee pee poo poo" level with Zeta (recently debuted and just out of her debut buff) being dragged to the abyss by Ollie never to return to be just a "cute Hololive girl trying to do their best while winning your heart".

But the worst part and, from the perspective of the audience, one of the few times Hololive took a major L.
It had everything, Selen mocking Ollie and Zeta for having introductions, and taking pride on being "unprofessional" with the MAGNUM OPUS and the point of pride and the comment all across both the niji crowd and the nijibeggar crowd on the holo circles was this exchange
Ollie and Selen discussion about bidet use (with a language as crass as you can imagine).
Then this exchange happened

Ollie (about bidet use)
>So you're telling me that you guys don't wash it wet?
Selen
>No
Ollie
>Thats dry! I feel so sorry for your genitals
Selen
>So when Ollie says "hydrate yourself" she doesn't mean "drink water", she meant "the other hydration"
(this is the part where it connects with what anon said, Ollie penchant for taking it one step further than her collab partner for shock value)
Ollie
>Yeah, actually, wet your "other lips"
and then pic related happens.

Ollie asks Selen if that's too much for her and Selen responds
>It's okay, "I'm in Nijisanji"
and one punch kills Ollie right then and there because, so far, it was Selen holding back because this was one of the first NIjiEN collabs with Hololive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=LyD6P6uSZjxrvaCj&t=370

Flawless victory for Selen and, once again, Ollie embarassed everything Hololive stands for.
All of the grief she gets, she brought it on herself and THANK YOUR LUCKY STARS she failed because her plan was to make what you guys saw in this clip the NORM for Hololive, complete and total Nijification.

Bottom line: the one thing people hates the most, even more than the Holostars (which is a high bar to clear) is to have their favorite content put aside so their favorite content creators can pander to some other audience.

>>61791776
Will EN play with them

>>61791776
That's great initiativr from her, that's one way to keep the tourist from leaving and making the temporary buff to permanent incline

>>61791710
>>61791747
>Extrapolating from a single data point
I'm guessing you also think Luxiem still have an 80k ceiling that holoEN can't reach

...

>>61791756
Anon, look at the average EN viewer and tell me if MGS is a buff again

>>61791828
>only pekora can pull that off
The dogs are just EN pekora, it sounds like trolling but if anyone in EN has a chance to get decent numbers from MGS it's definitely the twins.

>>61791849
We're talking about ceilings dumbass and that stream was only around a month ago. We can bring up Kronii vs Fauna's last outfit reveal stream too if you want.

>>61791550
Nobody will miss you ENshart.

>>61791838
i don't know if she or enna is worse

>>61791135
>bigger than the original
Anyas phony is better...

>>61791601
I mean wasn't TTT into 3view territory within 2-3 streams?
The collab spam stuff is bad but there's something more to it than just that. NijiEN has zero tourist pull anymore, nobody new is giving the new gen a chance and the existing fans already have oshis.
This is contrasted heavily with Advent which clearly has brought in new people, judging by how they can mostly still get OK-to-good numbers even during intense overlap.

>>61791794
>>61791808
This was all in response to a post critiquing this
>she can't hit the highs that Mumei and Kronii can
That's what was stated, and the response back to that was that it wasn't 2021 anymore. Well it's 2023, and that specfically hasn't changed
>>61791849
Except that this has been a constant with event and tourist ceilings since they debuted, from birthdays to outfits

>>61791602
Did you even listen to what soundpost he was responding to? you actual retard. She put on a voice because she was having fun.

>>61791624
Ruffians better kneel to Mori for getting MGS perms

>>61791705
>Retarded ENshart doesn't know about the gigabuff that is Makaimura or SMB2

>>61791946
oh i understand what you're doing now, kill yourself

>>61791756
>>61791828
>>61791884
>Retard using normal number to judge MGS
If we judge it using long playthrough numbers then it is indeed better than your average JRPG playthrough

>>61791296
holy based

>>61791981
Stop falseflagging sister

Derek car... Final Fantast Pixel Remaster perms for EN... oh ne guy...

>>61791705
I wish more HoloENs would do first time dark souls streams. It's free views.

>>61791972
>better than [kiara]
how is that good?

>>61791874
As long as they bot fwmc they can get good numbers in any game.

>>61791968
And I understand that you're too retarded to follow a simple conversation. It's okay, no shame in bowing out

>>61791624
>not picking fatal frame kino

booo ruffkeks are shit

>>61791776
Let's see if holoark is still a debuff or no, because I remember peko got her first sub 20k in a while with ark

>>61792001
Don't remind me how Kronii got fucking 18k with 1 elden ring stream and never touched it again (except for that one challenge stream months later where she gave up after 15 minutes).

>>61791624
OH NONONO POMU YOUR WHOLE SPECIALTY IS SLIPPING AWAY

>>61792000
No

>>61792029
>no shame in bowing out
yeah, there is no shame in bowing out and admitting that nijiEN is dead.

>>61792001
100% sure advertising
>playing [souls game] for the first time
is
same with other legendary games like skyrim, or maybe they haven't played one of the old popular marios like 64 or galaxy

>>61792059
>Only a nijinigger can point out tourist floors and ceilings
What are you even angry about?

>>61792041
Hope they get something from Konami if they play it

>>61792039
Mori got several 10k+ streams with that game as well, it really helped dig her channel out of a pit
>which then she promptly jumped back into

Tempiss status?!?

>>61792115
what are you angry about? it has to be something, otherwise you wouldn't be here to shit up the thread

>>61792041
outdated... fwmc is already 5k ahead

>>61792148
I have no idea. Did they get good numbers on "Hollow Tempus"? I saw the logo that the intern made for it but never heard anything about it besides, I think, them announcing a VN they made which is random as hell.

>>61792128
two slot machines

>>61792150
The only thing I did was point out that Mumei and Kronii have a higher ceiling than Fauna does. Tell me, how am I shitting up the thread by pointing this out?

>>61792217
by being a nijinigger

Pajeets love lolis

KEK poi.cat is using Vesper's pfp for the dingo.
Also 2k on bday yikes.

>>61792061
looking at some random list of games on the internet and checking if they could do it
>skyrim
>cuphead
>souls games
>portal (collab potential after 1)
>GTA
>AoE (with a possible collab buff)
>Diablo
>Undertale
>The Sims
>Spelunky

>>61792257
The song is anti loli

>>61791949
>listening to Fauna sing
no thank you

Can't wait

>bring it to me
>All the JRPG sponsorship
Kiara...

>>61792293
Your immense loss, I'll listen to it again for you fag

>>61792290
is that milk?

>>61792274
Neck yourself tranny>>61792257
Did any en girls call in?

>>61792315
She knows what's the actual important numbers...

>hololive server ark
since when? I totally missed this

>>61792354
2020?

>>61792241
I'm neither dekinai nor jouzu, but nothing in this image implies India. Can you post the data source?

>>61792320
most viewers don't see it as a loss apparently

>>61791894
>>61791946
Well the anniversary streams had Kronii at 11k and Fauna with a 12k and a 16k stream. For one. Kronii's numbers have been a mess the second half of this year.
There aren't frequent enough big events to draw any meaningful conclusions. Especially when those events happen far apart and on different days of the week.
It's like when people shitpost with Gura's showcase which was the only one to happen on a fucking thursday

>>61792314
Wrong image

>>61791669
based on? I don't remember holomem announced SF6 tournament

>>61792388
I mean today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITuYKBaTbps

>>61792408
NTA, but no. I want to see if it goes below 10k this year

>>61792354
Since today, it got reinstated

Kino incoming. Easy 65k for the bro.

>>61792399
Idol Kirin still trying her best! Despite knowing she's not that great she still gives it her all

>>61792314
If they force the holostars on the main channel again I'm gonna be pissed. I genuinely loathe the sight of them. Cover should be closer to bankruptcy than they are for how they bring their stupid Poochies into everything. If there are homos at HoloFes I will never support anything Cover related again.

>>61792314
No HoloJP/Stars mingling this year, eh?
Whoever is pushing/directing the Stars project over at Cover overplayed their hand and lost a decent bit of ground this year. One step forward and three steps back for every move they tried.

Do you think sf will be a buff for holoen #?
If so which member can benefit the most?

>>61792399
KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS

>>61792399
Damn, Faunaschizo going for the throat

>3 year anniversary custom
this one will be good, plenty of popular vtubers
>holos
>nijis
>homos
>vspos
>neoportes
and more

>>61792446
>FGO
>kino
pick one

>>61792426
Towa trying to start something? I don't see anyone else scheduling Ark streams, or any frames.

>>61792392
https://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail?a=India&year=2023&month=11&day=7
Billboard Japan also tracked Japan songs in Singapore, UK, France, and South Korea.

>>61792456
I feel bad for Stars. They're going to be forced to sing with talentless whores like Matsuri, Mel, and Suisei to get any numbers.

>>61792496
>Stars

>>61792399
Love yourself king

>>61792480
idk, she just read some comment about
>can't wait to see aki play here!
and I don't remember anyone talking about it

>>61792399
Based.

>>61792399
Saplings our response

>>61792455
Can't wait for the homo impact graph of this year.

>>61792453
My cute gaming idol kirin wife

>>61792461
Kiara, Mori and Fauna.

How fucking much did Fauna record while in Japan? Like what the fuck is this. Like the only thing that was more out of left field was the Nene live. And why isn't Ame in it???

>>61792496
kek, even if it is an impersionation by a nijinigger, that's exactly how regular homobeggars behave so, well, congrats!

AIEEEE
Roberu don't look!

>>61792404
>Well the anniversary streams had Kronii at 11k and Fauna with a 12k and a 16k stream.
Fauna's 1k anniversary stream was an unarchived karaoke that she raided herself with.
https://vrabi.net/video/g3UiN2rsqpI
She also had no overlap for her 12k anniversary stream
https://vrabi.net/progress/2023-08-26/07

Meanwhile, this was the overlap Kronii had for her 11k anniversary stream.
>Bijou 9.5k
>Shiori 8.5k
https://vrabi.net/progress/2023-08-25/12

At this point, anniversary streams aren't even that big of a tourist attraction. Unarchived karaokes are unironically stronger.

>>61792399
>Return buff after her offpako vacation with Eddy; 10k
>Halloween buff; 8k
Cucklings must be fuming right now.

>>61792535
>>61792455
Retards. At least read the article, there will be no homo on the main channel but there will be en and id guest on the star channel

So why are all the Niji girls in Japan

>>61792573
OH NO NO
Sapling our response

>>61792404
I'd see this as a valid argument if there's been enough instances where Fauna's ceiling approached Kronii's. But it's never happened, the only example you can give are the anniversary streams, and just as you pointed out
>11k
>12k
>16k
These aren't nearly close to either of their ceiligs.

>>61790915
I hope it's mixed gender!!

>>61792315
She honestly probably makes more money on those sponsors then most of her non debuff game streams.

>>61792589
recording the HUGE concert that will change everything

>>61792589
Shareholder meetings need new entertainment

>>61792588
As if I trust the article to reflect the reality of the situation. HLZNTL never mentioned the stars.

>>61792597
Okay you can fuck off though, Jesus it's hard to have a discussion on one of Fauna's weaker points with faunaschizo around

>>61792589
Riku wanted to see them cry in person when he delivered the news.

>>61792456
They probably saw all the backlash from hlzntl and dev_is playing with veggies pre debut that caused low subs so they probably learned their lesson

>>61792404
Fauna is like pekora anon high floor, low ceiling.

>>61790731
>>61790854
Why

>>61792597
I'm literally a sapling too, but I don't think there's really much of a difference between Fauna and Kronii this year for anniversaries, except Fauna made a shitload of SC money. My argument is moreso how anniversaries aren't really that big of a tourist attraction, vs shit like outfit reveals and 3D debuts.

>>61792623
Where is the faunaschizo? All i see is saps seething their ass off

>>61792634
Unironically comparing fauna with fucking pekora
Holy delusional

>>61792648
>t. sister larping as a faunaschizo

>>61792634
Pekora having a low celing is a baffling claim