/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Gurass

I love my wife so much!!

Outfit streams, anniversary stuff, and unarchived do not count. Chumbuds can post that "overexpectaion" meme all they want, but fact of the matter is that Gura has not had a normal stream ever since the Holocure one over 2 months ago

>>61607673
Uoh

I love Gura the most!

>barb online
>sholnir online
>gura nowhere to be found
hmmm

Gura is sedated!

>>61607725
It only counts when
>It's on Gura's channel
>It's a solo stream
>Frame should be made 10 hours before it starts
>Gura needs to tweet the stream 10 hours before it starts
>Gura has to write an 500 word essay to update us on twitter
>Made one funny on meme tweet and all these don't count
>It can not be a karaoke stream
>It can not be a watchalong
>It can not be a kusoge game playing stream
>It can not be an outfit reveal
>It can not be an anniversary stream
>The stream should be at least 4 hours long
>Gura has to address her absent
>It has to contain at least 1.5 hours of SC reading
>It contains at least 3 criticism SC
>Those criticism SCs should be orange or above
>Those criticism SCs cannot be sent in ARS
>Gura has to read those criticism SCs out
>Gura has to answer those criticism SCs for not less than 3 minutes
>Gura has to apologize
>Gura needs to release a month of full schelude
>The stream cannot end exactly at the 4 hours mark.

Cutest little dumb thing in the world.

>>61607725
calling it a meme won't make those streams count chumkek.

>>61607788
And there it is

>>61607725
>unarchived
what's wrong with those? I'd rather have an unarchived kara than restrict gura to the same 5 JPshit songs you can sing archived

>>61607741
>your mother's online
Hmmm...

>>61607788
you missed unarchived streams

Gura "burnout" when it comes to streaming is not a thing. Just stream through it. That's what JPs do.

>>61607788
Fuck you, I want a karaoke

>>61607859
Because unarchived streams are temporary and usual just singing or watchalongs, not very interesting and usually only happen once a month at most

Lots of us were right. She would disappear after this weekend, reappear for the sportsfest and disappear again until January. I bet that's what happens

>>61607844
Uh yeah that's exactly what i'm saying, they don't count

Sex with a fembud.

>>61607954
No, she's gonna have something for a Halloween stream

I captured this dwarf but she doesn't give health stats, what the heck.

I just noticed there's 1000+ posts over barely a 10 hour period.
Anything worth seeing there? Or is it just shitposters trying too hard again?

Will the jealous Advent fag show up this thread? He's been malding all day about Gura being more popular and successful than anyone in Advent.

>>61607932
>singing
>not very interesting
what the fuck is wrong with you? also watchalongs are never unarchived btw

>>61608187
this image is the only thing worth seeing from the last thread

So what I got from the previous threads is that Gura is to blame for Advent reclining recently, always knew it

>>61608187
You already know the answer. Especially when a good collab happened.

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/112991805

>>61608224
Obviously many other people agree with me on the singing not being interesting, Gura used to average like 50k on unarchived karaokes not she doesn't even get more than her usual numbers when she does them. People just don't care anymore, especially when she herself obviously doesn't either

Gura overlapped Advent and there's nothing chummies can say that will deflect from that fact

>>61608307
kek you are so pathetic. and such a fucking loser.

>>61608307
>she doesn't even get more than her usual numbers when she does them

Please just ignore it

>>61608361
>Advent overlapped Gura
fify

>>61608283
Define "good collab". You mean Gura barely talking, as per usual, and just being a background NPC half the time?

>>61608362
Got an actual argument or just gonna revert to name calling like an actual loser with nothing to say?

>>61608365
Why are you questioning it? Look at her numbers for karaoke streams, its hardly different than her usual numbers

What's with all these low tier pasta shitposts? Can we bring back the numberfags or something?

>>61608475
An argument for why you're a seething beta orbiter? Because that's just your nature I guess?

>>61608307
>not she doesn't even get more than her usual numbers when she does them
what is it with people posting objectively wrong shit and thinking nobody would call you out?

>>61608283
You're right, I guess it was a bit of a dumb question, sorry.

>>61608568
If anything that's you people, simping over a girl who provides literally nothing lol.

>>61608130
Game?
>>61608187
I usually read through every thread, but even I cba with this shit today, it was all stupid advent talk or cuck posting from what I skimmed.

>>61608517
ok i will bite. Gura got 36k from the last karaoke. Now enlighten me with "her usual numbers" that you mentioned.

>>61608517
her usual numbers is 35K now? >>61608597
goddamn gura is still going strong then

>>61608597
That's barely more than what she regularly averages, and doesn't take away from the original point made about how she used to get almost double those numbers for those kinds of streams when she actually cared.

>>61608422
She talked more than Kronii, Nerissa, and Ame.

>>61608706
It's a very, very low bar

>>61608597
Damn its really been over 3 months since the last one, and chumbuds seriously think its some kind of victory still lol

>>61608620
game is goblin burrow

>>61608706
You don't have to take that threadreader seriously

>>61608608
Damn you project a lot. I already know that you have zero appreciation for her and are seething at her, those two things are fully apparent. Not the case with me, so we're really not the same, I'm actually a fan and supportive of her as a talent.

imagine pinning gura's tiny body to a bed

>>61608307
>Obviously many other people agree with me on the singing not being interesting
What the fuck are you on about
Gura's karaoke streams always have the highest viewership compared to standard game streams

>>61608706
Oh so the other 3 people who hardly talk at all in collabs too, gotcha

>>61608307
Point and laugh at this retard lmao

I wish Gura made more GTA streams

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBqMuQP9pgk

>>61608770
What exactly is there to be appreciative of, please let me know because all I see are 0 projects, 0 promises followed, least time streaming out of every other Holo member, and still no communication.

>>61608810
post the gura+shion one.

>>61608685
>That's barely more than what she regularly average
oh shit it seems that goalpost is going on a tour around the globe right now, yeah man, her usual 15k-18k is totally just about 36k

>he used to get almost double those numbers for those kinds of streams when she actually cared
just checked, and no it averaged about 40K since 2021 after the CCV was culled and the debut buff wore off

>>61608789
That's not the point being made, the point is that her karaoke numbers used to be huge and now hardly anyone is coming to watch them compared to how they used to average

>>61608782
Imagine Gura pinning your body to a bed.

day 46! give it up for day 46!

Me listening to this rn
https://youtu.be/zHlpHGrHGjU?si=HuBU_hWQqCxOmPfG

>>61606370

>>61608978
God I wish I were Miku

>>61608931
Fun fact, her last karaoke has even more number than the dino karaoke in 2021.

>>61608931
All of her numbers across the board used to be huge you dumb fuck
She's killing her own channel by being completely inactive and refusing to stream anything

>>61608931
>That's not the point being made, the point is that her karaoke numbers used to be huge and now hardly anyone is coming to watch them compared to how they used to average
anon you can cope all you want but 36K isn't "hardly anyone" find me any other EN who gets that

Any art that portrais Gura as more of a rocker or emo or something like this Fauna picrel?

>>61608863
Holy fuck you're so fucking stupid it's crazy. Like actual brainlet incapable of grasping abstract concepts. You are LITERALLY incapable of appreciating things that are intangible. So if it's not a song release, stream, etc, it just passes by you as if it were invisible. You are probably incapable of appreciating art as well, I assume, things with deeper meaning to them. Just move on dude, you will never understand or appreciate Gura. It is physically impossible for you.

>>61609072

>>61609042
and more than her bardcore one too

>>61609072

Ok karaoke arguers, here is a list of every karaoke she has done and its numbers go crazy

>>61609103
Oyeah, thats some good stuff, thanks cumbud

>>61609072

day 46! give it up for day 46!

>>61607725
Why are you here if you don't like Gura? Imagine going into a thread to post about someone you don't like. Just ignore her. But you can't because you're the jealous Advent retard

>>61609137
are those all of them? I could have swore there were more, guess like 3/4 of her karas were member's only

>>61609203
>Le Advent Boogeyman
Kek

>>61609137
Despite any anomalies, the numbers seem pretty consistent

>>61608361
The jealous Advent retard is still here. By the way, Gura's stream time has been 8pm est since her debut. If the Advent whores didn't want to be overlapped than they shouldn't have streamed around that time.

>>61609085
Repeating the same thing 3 times in a single comment doesn't reinforce what you say, it just makes you look like a redditor who thinks they are intellectually superior.
A cover or original song counts, I never said they didn't But Gura hardly releases tho either way too, she's released like what 2 original songs and a handful of cover songs lol. Gura has not created anything else that supports the narrative that she "cooks" shit.

>>61609137
it's a shame youtube only displays her nerfed numbers after the 119k one. youtube is just like gura's antis with their long list of reasons for not counting.

>>61609072
Fauna was such a bad girl haha.
All the things she said running through my head~

>>61609177
Why are you still doing this? The tweets and collabs reset the counter.

>>61609137
>>61609262
same anon, just checked and there ARE more karas just not labeled, you should have searched "sing" too

shark fact

>>61609282
Yes, that's who you are. And notice how you didn't even posting in a thread of someone you don't like. Go support your oshi in her thread. But you can't because you're still jealous lol

>>61609367
Only a stream on Gura's channel resets the counter. Them's the rules for Krabs Counter. Not exactly strict or unreasonable

>>61609137
Wait is that seriously it, that is alot less than I thought lol. This just makes it even more pathetic, baring the number argument aside, that she has only done that many karaoke streams.

There's been a members only waiting room up for a solid 3 minutes and no one has said anything about it

>>61609447
>didn't even posting
ESL

>>61609464
>shes announcing the baby

>>61609203
>If you have a problem with Gura's behavior, you're just an Advent cuck or Niji shill

>>61609457
lol, his narrative of low karaoke numbers got shattered so he's moving to goalposts to the amount of streams

Goob morning I love Gura the most!

>>61609457
there are more, she just sucks at labelling stuff

>>61609464

>>61609507
That is your defense? A typo? Why are you posting in a thread of a person you don't like. That's like the 3rd time I've asked and you can't answer because you know the reason is jealousy. Lol pathetic

>>61609352
>Nerfed numbers
lmao are holobronies really still on this cope about numbers being nerfed by Youtube, people just dropped off cause they didn't find her or any of these other channels that suppsoedly got "nerfed" by Youtube interesting

whys she avoiding chumbies

>>61609571
Anything from the last month?

>>61609457
>baring the number argument aside
>let's forget it since I was btfo so bad
fify

>>61609571
And don't forget there's one that's just called SHARK.

>>61609619
Because some took being stinky a bit too serious

>>61609530
Karaoke numbers are low if you look at the chart lol >>61609137

>>61609621
no? what's that got to do with the number of karas she's done? stick to one shitpost lane please

>>61609518
Yes, you are. You don't like Gura, so why post in a thread about her. You still can't answer that question

>>61609348
>repeat the point over and over
>still doesn't understand it
I guess I need to repeat it again. You cannot understand or appreciate Gura. You are proving it RIGHT NOW by being baffled about what there is to appreciate about her. I'm saying I'm seeing stuff I really appreciate, and you're saying there's nothing you can see to appreciate.
And that's fine. You don't have to. You just need to find someone who does things you DO value and appreciate. People who do tangibles like make food and communicate etc, I dunno that's for you to figure out. Not everyone has to see the same things in this world. That's how humans can do so much.

>>61609571
>Barely more viewers than her average ccv
>b-b-but karaoke streams are a number buff

>>61609722
>her average ccv
seriously where the fuck are you tourist from?

>>61609621
>thinking Gura has produced any noteworthy content within the past 2+ months
kek

>>61609725
Wow, what a sexy fbk, who's the retard next to her?

>>61609676
No they aren't. After the live viewer culling in December 2020, Gura always averaged between 30-40K for her karaokes. Owned. Next

>>61609722
>>Barely more viewers than her average ccv
>>Barely more
what?

>>61609722
listen man, accept when you get proven wrong my dude, this is just a sad show

>>61609658
>Still doesn't refute the original argument

>>61609679
I'm not that guy, just checking. At least there's still a metric fuckton of member content from this summer

>>61609781
a cute retard

>>61608531
ask and ye shall receive
in other news grass touching did not wind up being six hours and more like two, which is unfortunate, but I guess that's the way the cookie drops
you all asked and care, I know, you're welcome, don't stop shitposting on my account

lol, why would you post in split thread of someone you don't like? It has to be jealousy. Stay jealousy Advent fag. Your oshi will always been irrelevant

>>61609831
>original argument
The karaoke ccv? I thought we are talking about it?

>>61609348
https://rentry.org/Gura_songs
u can check here for all the stuff you missed, plus there's at least one more song on reine's channel that they didn't add to this list.

>>61609684
Go back to le reddit or twitter, i'm sure you'll get some good updoots or engagement there tourist

>>61609663
>literally just finding new ones even tho I scrolled through her streams like 3 times by now
goddamn it gura label your shit

Even the doompost loops are better than this stupid # talk that's been happening all day, I guess I'll be back around the time people start showing up to the haunted house stream.

>>61609722
You're cherrypicking at this point

>>61609348
Why does Gura have to meet "your" standards? It's pretty clear you don't like her and ignore 90% of her content. Why should anyone listen to you on what counts as content creation or how it is tallied to someone you are bias against?

After skimming through the last couple of threads.
I'm thinking this might be some of the messiest, low effort shitposting I've seen in here in a while.
I ain't even mad, I'm just impressed.

>>61609787
>live viewer culling
>Holofags still believe this rrat

When I try to imagine what a retarded ruffian feels when he sees a chumbud argue about if gura did zero or two streams in the last 50 days, i always land on "jealousy".

>>61609829
None of you people have proven anything, just continually circle-jerked each other into coping that you're right about everything concerning Gura and that nothing is wrong

>>61609915
It's a chicken and egg situation when you need to explain a basic abstract concept to someone but they're incapable of grasping abstract reasoning

>>61609835
From Gura? Where exactly is this "metric fuckton of member content"

>>61609945
They are just pretending to be retards and throwing shit that don't even make sense to see if it sticks.

>>61610037
ok anon, I accept defeat, gura now has a 30K average on all her streams and her karas are no longer a buff, oh woe is me

>>61610096
2 streams, be grateful

So now that the myth of Gura losing numbers is dead and buried, can we talk about how cute she is?

>>61609901
At least reply to the person you pussy
Also, my oshi averages 10k and streams regularly. What has Gura done the past year that constitutes recognition or praise?

>>61609915
reddit has actually pretty much turned on her when the usual suspects aren't prepared to brigade in her favor, because so little is being asked of her that it's kinda indefensible

>>61609939
>Ignore 90% of her content creation
Again, what content are you people referring to lol

>>61610151
See this? You oshi will never achieve this. Now cry louder.

>>61610045
>le intellectual abstractism over a vtuber and the type of "content they create"
Jesus get over yourself

>>61608187
The Family Feud stream was entertaining. I never thought I'd stay on a Kiwawa stream that long.

>>61608886
I'm late but here

>>61610130
>Myth of her losing numbers
How is it a myth when its statistically true that she's lost both ccv and members?

>>61610351
*rape*

what happened here?! it seems to be like january 2022, was youtube borking up or did she not advertised this one at all?

>>61610191
Isn't it kind of funny how Reddit of all places is less of a hug box compared to 4chan in this specific regard

>>61607788
I see nothing wrong with any of that. And she only has to do that once, then it's back to normal stream expectations like every other holomem has.

>>61610368
>lost both ccv and members
mind to show your stats to the class?

>>61610351
This is why sharks need two dicks.

>>61610250
Figmas, nendoroid, and pop ups are all for onions cucks. I do not give a fuck whether or not my oshi has a gay little figure

>>61610463
who said that there's anything wrong?

>>61610433
this place isn't either, opinion can go either way in a somewhat more sane manner when we aren't being very obviously raided
there were more chumbuds here during the month and a half long gap where she was completely dead than after she was on stream, it's ridiculous

>>61610368
>gets objectively proven wrong
>still denies reality
sad

>>61610306
now I get why numberfags are insufferable, because they're only capable of seeing things that are tangible like numbers

>>61610491
I thought I said cry louder. still can't hear you

>>61610429
Youtube numbers aren't real. The funny thing is you can't even compare chat speeds, a non-holo will have a dead chat while a holo will have a fast chat with most of the messages eaten by youtube.

Funny thread.

i want gura to shake her tail in my face again

>>61610429
Can you people stop with the Youtube nerf rrat? Not every instance of low numbers is Youtube fuckery, people just don't find everything interesting

>>61610605
that's probably it, I remember sometime outube REALLY culled the numbers and the kara might be in there, yeah you either culled them like youtube or infalte them like twitch, accurate counting of people watching is harder than it seems

>>61610606
Sometimes they’re good sometimes they’re bad.

>>61610466
Compare her numbers recently to the past 2 years and its gone down. Also its statistically accurate to say that a streamers members/subs (Yotube/Twtich) will go down if they do not stream for a long period of time. Gift subs especially will make the number dip exponentially.

>>61610491
This crying of yours is just sad to witness

>>61610528
>>61610817

>It only counts as a reappearance when I say it counts, even when she literally reappears

>>61610718
this one in particular is pretty much youtube fuckery no matter how you see it, it aligns squarely in the CCVID yellow line of pic related so I guess mystery solved

>>61610817
The Advent members are already all below 10k regularly
All things considered, Gura is doing extremely well

>>61610433
Reddit/Twitter are hug boxes for antis and they constantly cry about /vt/ not being another one.

>>61610572
All vtubers, whether you accept it or not, care about numbers. Holos care about numbers whether its sub count or low ccv, every member who has either or both has talked about it being depressing and shit that their numbers are what they are compared to the rest of their gen. Numbers are everything, you are in a position of privilege as a fan to only think they are "tangible"

>>61610718
Newfag.

>>61610573
My oshi averages 15k viewers and actually streams, nothing to cry about for me.

>>61610817
actually they've been pretty solid, specially more than any other holoEN, don't know who you are trying to fool here, you can go ahead and see the numbers

DON'T GO INTO THE LONG GRASS!!!

You know what would be hot, if Gura came back as red Gura and just mocked us the entire stream like the gaki she is. God that would be amazing

>>61607673
Gonna be real with you guys, I believe Goombah might actually have a condition. LIke a chronic or illness or something. Explains a ton of stuff.

>>61609367
If I was not using twitter or not subbed to ame/kiara (which I am not), how would I know about those collabs? So to me she would still be gone.

>>61610872
Ok, link me the last stream she did. What's that, she never did a POV for Ame's stream? Then stfu until she ACTUALLY streams

>>61611088
Oh no anything but that

>>61610429
jan 2022 youtube fucked up completely and it was site wide. /#/ called it ccvid since it nuked everyone's numbers. some examples were luna's 2nd anniversary 3d live only getting 13k and the new years mario kart tournament only getting 38k

>>61611158
she has chronic avoidant personality and chronic motivational issues yeah

>>61611088
there's a whole community that gets genuinely mad if a streamer isn't shitting on their own fans constantly, i see them whining about hololive a lot.

>>61610817
Funny because VOD views are still performing just as well as they did almost 3 years ago. The only outliers being event streams.

>>61610926
Advent is only down because they debuted at the worst time for streaming in general near the fall, the best times are Summer/Winter when people have more time. I wouldn't care having 100 streaming hours in 2023 doing "extremely well", Gura is just a special case where she has an extremely loyal group of people who will stick with her whenever

>>61611207
>if I was deaf and blind how would I know?!!!!!!!!!!
you'd had a legit point if she didn't tweeted about it but because she did that's pretty much your fault, if you care about not missing her you obviously follow her socials

>>61611218
see>>61610872

>>61610959
That's just wrong. Reddit/Twitter and Youtube blame /vt/ for literally every drama imaginable and think that this place is the scum of the community. There is no real hugbox for anti discussion

>>61611032
I never said they weren't good, just that they went down because she has hardly streamed this year.

>>61610971
you will never be human

>>61611320
>Gura is just a special case where she has an extremely loyal group of people who will stick with her whenever
>an extremely loyal group of people who will stick with her whenever
...And for good reason. How do you think she got people who will follow her activities anywhere? Gura is well liked for many reasons.

Just returned after a while of staying away just to say I'm still chuckling at the fact that she came back from 40+ days of nothing with a "haha I forgot I'm a streamer oops" tweet and then joking about ghosting during the collab
I spent all that time stressing over nothing, and I just find it really funny. I'm done taking this stupid shit so seriously.

why doesnt cover just force her to stream? not streaming is pretty much stealing from those of us who are members

>>61611499
this year she's actually better than 2022 AND 2021, but that's because a lot of her streams have a rarity buff and her event streams weight a lot more on the averages

please if you are going to numberfag AT LEAST learn how to read the numbers correctly

>>61611385
Doesn't answer the question?

>>61611592
how does it feel knowing that Gura was more than likely here posting with us the whole time because 90% of the ghosting talk along with other things was posted on VT and no other place.

>>61611253
yeah, just found out about it, thanks for the examples tho, holy fuck I hope luna was alright and understood that youtube borked

>>61611592
probably healthier that way, congrats
can't say the same, the girl I would have called a sweetheart without hesitating before now treats me like freezedried ass and makes fun of me for it, kinda feels like shit

>>61611778
ghosting is not a 4chan term bro, quite the opposite it's a full on normalfag term

>>61611513
It has nothing to do with being a bot or whatever, but fact of the matter is that numbers drive innovation and success. Pekora is motivated to stream everyday because she gets huge numbers and watch time, meanwhile someone like Mel gets low numbers and rarely streams

>>61611592
based chumjoker

>>61611549
She got people like that because she exploded during debut and has the cunny buff, that's literally it.

>>61611860
Doesn't matter, this place is the primary place where people call Gura out for ghosting

>>61611957
>cunny buff
why isn't bijou doing much better than the rest of her gen then

>>61611592
Its less funny and more pathetic

>>61611598
Because after the 1st year there is no longer a streaming requirement, Cover probably doesn't care as long as she continues selling merch and shit

>>61611889
I was never referring to the talents, I was referring to numberfags who spend their time thinking about the noombers. Comparing them to someone who's actually accomplishing and experiencing things and finding fulfillment in many other ways is a joke.

>>61612043
then why do I find it funny?

>>61612025
Wrong market conditions, gyra debuted at the right time, with the right model, with the right personality to go viral. She got very lucky. Swap her and biboo around and shed probably be around biboo level right now (don't act like early gura was kino, she wasn't)

>>61611657
Wrong, she's averaging about the same or less compared to the prior years

>>61611957
or maybe, she's just that charismatic? explains how she can amass a fanbase like 3 times by now

>>61612025
Basically what >>61612142 said
There is no longer an opportunity for someone to get as big as Gura anymore. Vtubing has already "peaked" compared to 3 years ago. Honestly kind of retarded to even try making this point.

>>61612157
post them averages then

>>61612142
>with the right personality
>Swap her and biboo around and shed probably be around biboo level right now
contradiction.
you're dumb

gura's rm already amassed massive success before hololive

>>61612129
Because humor is one of the main coping mechanisms

>>61612129
not a real Chumbud

>>61612239
why are you replying to my post to reiterate what another poster already said. all you've done is just lazily reword what he already replied to me

>>61611592
Same, bro. Gura was my first and last oshi. Never getting this invested in a VTuber again.

>>61612276
If Council and Myth swapped, it would have been the same shit. Also lol gura's rm only amassed success through shitposting on Youtube her streaming relevancy was a joke

>>61612142
I can see gura being a lot less popular but I absolutely CAN'T see biboo reaching gura peak even if swapped, she really doesn't have the right meme mastery to go viral

>>61611970
Yep so Gura was in the place with all of us and more than likely also making the same posts having a fit about the ghosting among other things. She found every bit of this funny and the longer we complained the longer she stayed away so remember that.

>>61612412
Because it shows that your insinuation about "why isn't Bijou as popular as Gura then" wrong.

>>61612429
>already coping
success is success bro, something bijou never had in any form

>>61612434
And what exactly kind of "meme mastery" did Gura showcase that supposedly made her blow up? Saying A? That's pretty much it

>>61607673
If Bijou debuted 3 years ago with Gura's model there's no way she would have 4 million subs now. Gura debuted at the right time but she kept growing because unlike Bijou she's actually fun to watch and everything about her screams cunny. Bijou is just a thai girl with an annoying high pitched voice and no personality

>>61612494
you and the other anon's implicit insinuation that gura would be less than or equal to in success to bijou if she debuted nowadays is wrong

>>61612546
Its not the same type of success tho, you're implying that she was already successful in the same way she is as Gura when that's not true at all. lol all Gura fags know how to do is shit on other members, just another example of how you people hate Hololive just as much as her

>>61612434
B- but Milk???? Guys?? Milk??

>>61612583
Yeah gura memes are extremely dumb and stupid, she's not exactly a comedy genius. Again, just correctly primed market conditions.

>>61612583
basically her entire early persona

>>61612661
Well there's literally no way to know whether that's true or not, because its all speculation.

>>61612664
Yeah, we hate everyone except Gura. I admit it. I genuinely hate all other hololive members and hololive fans of said other members. I'm not kidding.
Can you niggers just fuck off already?

>>61612694
Again, what memes are we talking about?

>>61612664
>>61612694
>still coping
damn she must be the luckiest girl on earth to get viral several completely unrelated times already

>>61612427
Same desu. At least a lesson was learned from all this.

>>61612718
Her entire early persona was being a cute loli shark who made anime noises and was kino, now she's not even kino anymore cause she stopped doing the "shaark" thing and other similar stuff. Vtubers become worse once they drop the persona

>>61612728
>Well there's literally no way to know whether that's true or not
are you blind? if you examine and compare the two of them just briefly you can plainly see the difference in their skillsets, and you're still going to say "well, there's no way to know whether that's true"?

>>61612850
so then you agree with me?

>>61612749
Not until you people leave entirely, no wonder Gura herself hates you fucks and is embarrassed to have such fans.

Child

>>61612819
She went viral twice, and the 2nd time was largely due to her previous persona. Chill out there chummy

>>61611376
Blame people not wanting to use twitter? when they put it behind paywall I won't use it either. plus she did not tweet family feud one.

>>61612429
>gura's rm only amassed success through shitposting on Youtube
>"i-it's not real success, it was just sh-shitposting on youtube:
she sang songs with a cute voice, people chose to listen and share them around, she gained populairty as a result. you can't just discount that as mere "shitposting"

>>61612798
a
hydrodynamic
feet
bathtub pizza
These things were massively popular among a wide audience that barely knew what vtubers were

Gura numba wan

Hello /ggg/, pebble from /gem/ here
This nijitard is falseflagging trying to start a fanbase war and make you guys shit on advent / biboo, he tried on the catalog too
Just report or ignore

>>61612890
I mean yes? You cannot accurately say "this is what would have happened or not" because we don't know. Why do you think history is such a difficult subject, because we don't know why a lot of things happened in the past and what would have happened if something else changed.

>>61612980
>already went the extra cope of pinning gura's success on HER
hahaha lmao, does it bother you that much that there is absolutely no reality in which biboo is as popular as gura? some chink with horrible voice and the charisma of a plank is never getting viral, sorry not sorry

>>/vt/thread/61467398#p61477815
hey anon can you link me to the VOD? i don't see it for some reason

>>61612901
No, I'm still waiting for what you believe are these supposed memes that made her viral. I was just listening from my pov what her main qualities were. Being a loli shark is not a meme

Have you people almost cooled down yet? You've been at it all day.

>>61613043
This is the usual /ggg/, pay no mid. We all know that he is the usual threadshitter.

>>61612918
I'm glad chumbuds can make you seethe so much.
Believe me, any day now we could just decide to make life a living hell for any hololive girl we choose and, one by one, make them graduate by force.

>>61612999
Literally all of her songs were shitposting, none of them were serious lol. What is this revisionist shit? It was at a time when doing that kind of content was popular, same thing happened with Nyanners

>>61612849
god i hope so

>>61612991
I mean now youtube is behind a paywall too so I guess you can't watch streams in the first place

also yeah she should have retweeted the family feud one but she talked about it on her previous stream so that gets a half a point in my extremely subjective scoreboard

>>61613194
bro, you couldn't even make a mentally ill alcoholic graduate, get off your high horse

>>61613006
A is the only one that matters there. Hydrodyamic was some cringe shit in the same scope as being "bottom left". Feet was in a similar vein. And bathtub pizza was a one off story that got brought up by her designer once again and that was it. Try again please

>>61613043
They do this all the time with her and the dogs. I thought their little interaction during the collab was cute. Hope they can collab on something in the future.

>>61612306
ogey?
I don't feel like I'm coping anymore.
In fact, I feel a lot better than I have in weeks. She clearly doesn't take this seriously so I won't either. When she shows up, I'll watch her. When she disappears, I'll do other things I enjoy.
Yeah it's a big bummer that things are so different now, but it is what it is, and I think I've wasted enough time being sad about it.

>>61613043
You really think its gonna take a falseflagger to get Gura fans to shit on Advent or Bijou lol, they do that themselves you deluded rock fuck

>>61613339
>Hydrodyamic was some cringe shit in the same scope as being "bottom left". Feet was in a similar vein
still a meme, no matter how cringe
> And bathtub pizza was a one off story that got brought up by her designer once again and that was it
????????????????????????????????
it was everywhere, for fucks sake THEY LITERALLY REFERENCED IT YESTERDAY

>>61613043
>nijitard
It doesn't matter to me where they come from, I ain't going to blame and get mad at a whole group for a few retard's shenanigans.

>>61613089
>Resorting to racism
So this is the extent of Gura's fanbase, naruhodo

>>61613489
sorry, but chink voices are just ugly to listen to, not actually sorry btw

>>61613094
Because its not there lol, there is no planned Gura stream member or not

>>61613547
Wrong one, the chink is Shiori / Bae

>>61613043
reporting doesn't really work, as has been the case for years now
when 'people' have been numberfagging unchecked for like 6 hours straight it's basically meido sanctioned shitposting

>>61613424
They referenced it yesterday because what else were they gonna talk about? Literally the same shit with Ame's stream the other day, they obviously have nothing else to talk about and have to constantly avoid the elephant of Gura not streaming so they just reference dumb shit to placate their brain-dead fans

>>61613547
So you hate all of JP and about 1/3 of EN then

>>61613402
>She clearly doesn't take this seriously so I won't either.
that's actually the main thing people should understand.
she's not dying, she's not drowning in projects, she just doesn't like streaming anymore. maybe she will like it again someday but right now this is the situation.

how did you like last nights stream?
oh? there wasnt one? oh how about last friday? last week, at all? last month?
uh...you good chumbies

>>61613632
wha? what the fuck are you talking about? it was a question about soggy food so the others went SOGGY PIZZA LOL, did you expect them to say SOGGY NO STREAMS or something?

>>61613549
so that anon lied to me?

>>61613698
>implying biboo has a nip voice
lol, sorry seamongrel but yeah you don't sound similar at all

>>61613776
she was cute and I liked when she was bratty towards Kiara

>>61613716
This is the 1 thing I wish some of her fans would accept. There are no projects, extreme medical issues, family problems, Japan traveling, etc. She just hates streaming. Though I'm not going to entirely fault her fans because Gura herself made vague statements in late 2022 streams about having medical issues for why she wasn't streaming much, and how she promised to stream more frequency and communicate more. So its understandable than not all her fans are gonna accept this as the norm, when she herself hasn't exactly been entirely upfront about what's going on.

>>61613866
If Gura really had a planned stream there would be an entire thread about it lol

So how'd everyone like Gura's stream with Ame? She didin't stream her POV? How about her stream with Kiara, no stream either?
How about the Haloween stream, oh nothing there too? What about the Minecraft sports fes, still no stream? What about the Xmas/New Years one, oh nothing again?

>>61613922
doesn't really help when she keeps coming back and saying things like the ol' you know what, those words that have been getting tossed right back at her, and the 'see you tomorrow probably, maybe a member stream' and then vanishes for months instead
she's gonna have to pick up the can eventually instead of kicking it, whether there's an actual problem or she just really does hate streaming, or maybe she doesn't have to and everyone will just be fighting and having less and less fun forever

>>61613922
depression/anxiety are medical issues

Here are the stats for how much the girls talked during the collab. I removed Nerissa because her mic was picking up noise and Kiara because her model was covering her discord icon.
The top graph shows a red stripe when the mic is picking sound during a 1 second window. The bottom graph is a cumulative view. The y-axis represents the number of seconds each girl talked.
FuwaMoco only used one mic so they count for two.The timeline begins at the first frame the discord icons appeared.

>>61614153
Now this is the kind of autism I wanna see

I'll never give up on Gura.

>>61614122
>So how'd everyone like Gura's stream with Ame?
it was a lot of fun, cute gura noises and hearing her over the walkie talkie makes her sound like a child ToT
>How about her stream with Kiara, no stream either?
wasn't that fun, she just made a bunch of jokes about being a grandma but the dogs carried hard

>>61614153

>>61614153
Ame is such a sperg in groups

>>61614153
based...?

>>61614153
ame...
>kronii literally just dipping by the end and not speaking for 20 minutes straight
lol

>>61614153
I unironically miss this sort of autism, thank you for your service I guess

>>61614122
I lked the pahsmo one better because it had more gura but both were at least entertaining, hope we get a solo soon

>>61614153
So basically Fuwamoco and Mumei carried the stream, along with Kiara, meanwhile Gura/Ame/Bijou/Kronii hardly talked lol

>>61613064
all you need to do is look and notice the clear difference between gura and bijou to know why gura always find success wherever she goes

>>61614138
Then Gura should just say that she is having medical issues and won't be streaming as frequently, that's literally all she has to do instead of this shit of keeping her fans in the dark

>>61614153
Imagine streaming a video game with a group of people, and then seeing the audience analyze your interactions with each other by literally plotting your speaking time on a graph. This is the kind of thing that would make me not want to be in the public eye, ever, people are just too bizarre

>>61614379
And what exactly is that difference?

>>61614411
She can't do that because she keeps going to Japan which disproves that.

>>61614467
This is very basic 4chan autism stuff, clearly you've not been around the block here lol. Literally sounds like some shit id see on Reddit or Twitter if one of the shitposting subs/accounts posted the graph

>>61614481
good voice quality, singing talent, natural cuteness, and likable relatable personality, all of which gura has

>>61613289
I don't know what site you use but youtube works just fine without paying (if you mean ads then thats on you for paying for premium). My point was that if I did not use twitter I would not know about the phasmo collab and I would not know about the family feud that they talked about (and Gura did not stream, Ame did)

>>61614562
>This is very basic 4chan autism stuff,
Yeah that's the problem

>>61614503
Does Gura even go to Japan that often, pretty sure that's just another cope people have for why she doesn't stream

>>61614622
So you're just a tourist then? Got it, probably watches every video of the vt parrot and jerks off in the comments about how superior you are to here

>>61614153
here i did kiara for you

>>61614633
his point is more that she's clearly capable of international travel multiple times per year, multiple hours long studio recording and dance rehearsals, etc
she's not in dire straits, she's fine

>>61614633
she went twice at this year, anyone telling you she went more often is lying

>>61614859
3 times
She went back twice during summer.

>>61614859
three times, first one was the months long stay starting in january and ending after fes, post birthday was two short trips

>>61614785
Orange woman love

>>61614712
The problem isn't with basic 4chan autism, rather, it's that basic 4chan autism is being applied to something it should absolutely not be applied to. It's fine to be uncomfortably, detrimentally obsessive over politicians, or anime, or games, because those things don't have feelings and can't really be adversely affected by it. 4chan autism is only a problem in a hobby involving real people, and only makes things worse in that scenario. It shouldn't exist in this space.

Hololive fanbase wars is always a stupid approach. At least against nijisanji it makes sense. Common enemy and whatnot

>>61614807
i would imagine cover is more strict about forcing talents to make the trip to japan than forcing them to stream

>>61615596
I would also assume recording for big events is a tad more important, yes, but that's not the point
she can fly to and fro, she can sing and dance, for hours and hours by her own word, she's fine, not dying

>>61615058
Twitter is that-a-way friend

>>61615013
wish i were kiara here

>>61615596
So Cover is a black company overworking their sick talents?

>>61615432
Its because Holo wars are never organic, its always Niji fags stirring shit up.

>>61615058
Two of those things have people with feelings involved in their creation.

>>61615733
by her own words all the travelling to japan has been hard to handle

>>61615733
depression and anxiety dont prevent you from literally moving your body, theyre mental illnesses. they effect your motivation, especially if your going live for thousands of psychos who claim to be literally in love with you

>>61615867
Yeah but obsessively analyzing someone's creation or piece of art is not the same thing as obsessively analyzing someone's interactions with other people. When the content is personality-based and direct, i.e. youtube, analyzing the content means analyzing a person. It's at exactly that point that it goes too far and becomes purely harmful for everyone involved.

>>61616161
Plenty of people have depression and or anxiety, but that doesn't stop them from putting in 40 hours per week. Gura can't even be bothered to stream more than 1 few hours per month

>>61616228
How is it harmful, again its just 4chan autism bud. Don't get your panties in a bunch

>>61616230
if you work 40 hours in an office you dont have thousands upon thousands of psychos waiting for you to slip up so they can ruin your life. in fact you can usually get away with doing absolutely nothing most days

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/112997684

>>61616161
yeah, mental, I know, I'm just not feeling very charitable about it at the moment
I'd probably have a bit more sympathy, or even a bit more belief at all, if she didn't go right back to the same pattern of present but avoidant, because if she's still not willing to even try then it's probably not getting better

>>61616343
Tell that to the people who work in hospitality or the service industry or retail who interact with literally hundreds if not thousands of strangers everyday. Oh woe is me that a streamer has to turn on their camera, play video games, and act autistic for a few hours to a bunch of retards

>>61616230
>>61616343 (me)
also plenty of people with mental illness are not able to work 40 hour/wk jobs

>>61616451
i have worked jobs like that and no one ever told me to kill myself or tried to doxx me. there was never an ongoing conversation with thousands of people telling me how much they hated me, i was never under scrutiny the way a streamer is

>>61616492
correct i would hope they don't choose a retail job then.
>>61616665
never had conflict? never had to deal with assholes IN PERSON btw not through a fucking screen? sounds like a great job

>>61616665
Implying that other public jobs don't have to deal with that shit lol, I worked retail during covid and the amount of times I had to deal with people telling me to go fuck myself and how useless I was and not be able to say anything back was absurd.

>>61616665
Imagine comparing having to deal with people over a fucking screen who you will never actually interact with, compared to jobs where you have to directly interact with people and deal with their bullshit. You can't time people out, block, mute, etc irl. You just deal with it

>>61616665
while I agree she's had it harder than she deserved, gotten way too much bullshit from people who only ever want to mess with her, the current negativity and scrutiny is 110% her own fault
she consistently does the worst thing she could, disappoints in spades at the worst times and in the worst ways, and resentment builds as a result

>>61616759
conflict with one asshole that forgets you exist within 5 minutes is different than conflict with thousands of psychos who genuinely wish harm on you and will campaign against you for months

>>61616846
did any single one of them doxxed your family's social media? took pictures of your parents house?

>>61616846
i guarantee none of them remember your name

>>61616980
oh no the mean comments...
fuck off, bitch. don't make this stupid excuses. in retail you avoid confrontation because someone can punch you in the face or worse. don't make me post the tyler tweet.

>>61617100
well no they took pictures of me in my place of work, actually

>>61613043
>Blatant brigading from another thread
>its you who is falseflagging not me

>>61616920
while there is some truth she sucks at appeasing her fanbase there is no excusing assholes as someone "asking for it", no matter how careless a person is if someone is victim of a crime the criminal must be condemmed and not excused in the slightless

>>61615058
Politicians don't have feelings? kek

>>61617123
anon, there are actual doxxers and stalkers for hologirls out there, mean comments when you are a nobody online are kind of a joke but not when you have a fanbase this big

I'll always support my shark wife.

>>61616665
As a hospitality worker I get people telling me to kill myself and ruin my life for retarded reasons every day, Gura would shit herself if she were in my shoes

>>61617286
I'm not saying she's asking for it or deserves it, but she is the source of her own problems, in this context
the criminal is to be condemned, yes, but it isn't a crime to be upset about how bad things are right now, particularly when she is being asked for very, very, very little from people who only want to keep believing in her, who have given up on her ever coming back in any real capacity

>>61617286
>if someone is victim of a crime the criminal must be condemmed
>the current negativity and scrutiny
>>61617397
there are actual killers irl and crazy people that will shoot you if you don't give them a discount. What are you getting at? if you don't want to lift boxes don't work in a ware house, if you cannot take mean comments don't make a career online.