/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

holy shit that's actually sad

>Barely 30k for a full golden gen 3D collab
Grim indeed.

>>61501682
>4 Corporate captives VS 1 Captive of her own jail
Grim indeed

>>61501780
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVnthKVMr-E
They are at 83k now

>>61501682
>suisei bf yab happen
>suisei: "i don't have boyfriend"
>yab end
That fucking easy.
Instead she went to japanese keemstar and leaks shits.

>>61501786
STANDING HERE I REALIZE

Reminder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S3C6ujF95s

>>61501682
It's up to 84k and the stream crashes ...

>>61501682
Update your numbers Retardtachi.
>84k

Are Peko and Fure pretending not to hate each other today?

>>61501863
the JP holos are all very close friends

>>61501859
Yea the stream's being turboshit now. Keep getting studders. Might dump it to 144p to just stop there being constant freezes

>>61501863
>pretending
I don't think flare have the ability to pretend.
Watch her reaction to rushia's termination, it's hilarious.

>>61501863
Holofag schizos always saying the Holos hate each other, are all of you women kek

>>61501907
It still shit on 240p, will rewatch it later

>>61501934
>women
Hate other women by nature, yes. Only a woman would say otherwise.

>>61501953
Try killing the chat. It's fucking poorly coded as fuck and once I hit it with HyperChat slowdown and hid it the performance became much better.
Shit like this makes me almost miss Susan running shit. Least her incompetence was semi-consistant

>>61501978
So you're a schizo, good shit

3k is pretty good though, right? It's better than what many EN holos get

>>61502038
I love apples and oranges too anon.

>>61501926
Agreed, if Flare's so good at pretending the schizos who complains about her fanart rules won't exist

>>61502106
Nta, but i like banana more.

>>61502152
They don't invite each other, or they do but the other party turns it down. to anything but full gen collabs because......the full gen has to attend those. Kind of a mandatory thing.

>>61502205
They aren't first or second gen.

>>61502205
>Kind of a mandatory thing.
lol
lmao even

>>61501863
>OMG! They all HATE each other!!!
I don't speak autism.

>>61501682
>1 discord notification led to this
i'd still be kicking myself to this day if it was me

>>61502283
>I don't speak autism.
You speak retard though which is kind of a related language. I think we can communicate somewhat if you try really, really hard.

>>61502342
Yeah I can learn well with a teacher like you

Ru...they miss you...

>>61502491
They don't

>>61502504
you don't speak japanese

>>61502519
Let's see you explain the deep message then. You won't do it.

>>61502303
She probably does too, hence her regular menhera fits

Ru...it shouldn't have been like this!

>>61501810
BASED helps she didn't to incel manipulating GFE shit though

>>61501810
Her manager told her she can't say it herself so she had no other choice. Management forced her hand.

>>61501682
>only x2 the likes despite x10 the views
BOTS

>>61502661
>she had no other choice.
Nobody believes you Mikefag.

>>61502661
Her other choice was to let sane people handle the situation and have loyal people stand up for her.

>>61502802
Management is insane and nobody was loyal to her.

>>61502802
>have loyal people stand up for her.
The other cope that Mikefags have is that nobody was loyal to her outside of two or three genmates. In which case, how terrible was Rushia as a co-worker that nobody liked her?

>>61502837
>>61502855
Kek, absolutely called it.

>>61501682
GRIM

>>61502837
>nobody was loyal to her
Everybody was loyal until she decided to go to the drama guy

>>61501682
>GREEN

>>61502661
How? They said the same thing to Suisei too. It took a few days for them to coordinate with the guy.

>>61502038
Ah yes, post a pic of the CCV of the first 10 minutes of the stream, that will surely fool everyone. Why are Mori antis like this?

>>61502991
>It took a few days for them to coordinate with the guy.
Exactly this. You do not put out a timeline of events without the other party agreeing with your statement first. Not that I think Rushia had any realistic way of defending herself with that discord message. No way to interpret it in a GFE friendly way.

>>61503069
I don't think I have ever seen a Mikefag give a plausible explanation for the message that could exonerate her. They speak about her defending herself in the vaguest terms possible, never any concrete details of HOW she refuted the allegations.

>>61503031
Nice bots

>>61503167
>bots
Sorry, anon, but this is not Twitch. Those are most likely raids.

I still think firing her was a mistake.

>>61503167
>Nice bots

>>61503282
It was not a choice, if your employee breaks a contract rule, you have to follow through or else you're doing illegal activity too. Basic rule of business: don't fuck around with contracts.

>>61503282
>I still think firing her was a mistake.
She has never, not once, given anyone a good devil's advocate argument to why firing her was a mistake. She only proves it was a smart decision the more retarded mistakes she makes over time.

>>61503031
>kouhai with a lot more viewers than her redirect into her stream
>try to give her credit somehow
why are deadbeats like this?

>>61503165
Their only explanation is "pay her 1k yen and watch her membership twitcast" without any mention of which one. It's like some kind of Ponzi scheme of cope.

>>61503282
It was a good thing to fire her actually because if the biggest GFE holo has a confirmed boyfriend that means none of the girls trustworthy which would make unicorns jump ship

>>61503360
The first spike was Fuwamoco, and the 2nd one was Amelia. Regardless, she reached 3.4K views on her own until the raids happened, which defeats your argument (if you are the same anon that i replied to) that not many ENs gets those numbers.

>>61503466
>cover fired her because she have a boyfriend
Look at this retard.
She leaked holomems' info.
Cover didn't care about talents relationship and holofans didn't give a shit too.
Look at towa' and suisei' yabs.

>>61503527
Never said that retard but I'm glad that lying whore got fired anyway
>towa yab
Probably one of her fps friendd
>suisei yab
Very sus indeed but Suisei was never a gfe holo anyway

>>61502038
Why do you keep posting this lie?

RUSSIA GOT FIRED ( HAVING A BOYFRIEND)

GUNDO GOT FIRED FOR BASEBALL JOKES!

>>61503815
>GUNDO GOT FIRED FOR BASEBALL JOKES!
This one is 100% true though.

>>61502038
>3k is pretty good though, right? It's better than what many EN holos get

>SOO TRUE

Why are you bringing niji into this? Mikewhore is not a hololive member.

>>61502661
>Her manager told her she can't say it herself
No, she wanted to "prove" it because simply sticking to her story wasn't enough, apparently
And the only way to prove it was to give out information and internal communications which violated her contract

>>61502855
For perspective, she's all but entirely abandoned the VShojo girls who are still supportive of her, and has ignored Henya since she debuted despite her desperately wanting to collab.

>>61503968
Nazuna is probably just waiting for the contract to run out, imagine how Kson feels trying to saviofag her, only for her to turn around and spit in her face.

>>61503882
>comparing niji with holo in 2023
Grim

>>61503947
Because holoniggers can't stop seething

>>61503282
a holobrony with an actual opinion, amazing
sadly the 3 CEO-worshipping holodrones replying proves you're the exception to the rule

>>61504076
You're making even less sense.

>>61504059
Except that holoEN got mogged that day on a pic, without even taking debut numbers into account.

>>61504091
Your Niji graduations are so bad they're not worth comparing kek

>>61504113
Nobody asked your brown opinion.

>>61504155
How's the month looking? How about today?

LOL

>>61504181
>Your Niji graduations are so bad they're not worth comparing kek
NTA, but let's see:
Holo graduations:
>Biggest GFE in the entire industry cucked all holocucks
>Holotrash lost to chinks and got rid of their biggest income generating talent
Niji graduations:
>Getting rid of useless menheras and leakers like Mysta, Zaion, Yugo and Nina

>>61504350

>>61504350
>More Niji graduations incoming

>>61504373
Luca already confirmed that there won't be any nijiEN graduations for a long, long time. Everyone is happier than they've ever been right now.

>>61504042
It's like trying to give money to a meth addicted homeless man.
There is no use helping someone that is beyond far gone.

>>61501682
>3k
pretty good, for someone who antagonizes everyone around her, she must have a lot of masochistic fans

>>61504389
Yes, and they "postponed" the AR concert as well. We will see what happens.

>>61504350
>useless menhera and leakers
So, half of the corpo?

>>61504091
Who do you watch? Let's hear it.

>>61504350
Ah yes, typical Nijisister behaviour. They are no longer on their "team" so now they are menhera.

>>61504366
Only supporting my point with names like Meiro and Raito. And speaking of Raito, it really shows how Niji instantly cuts off retards with rape intentions while Holo only approved their manager raping half of HoloJP for almost full year.

>>61504389
>Person who works for black company, is a known favourite of management and cannot/will not say otherwise says all is fine
Well shit, everything must be going great then

>>61504350
I like how to nijifags only the english branch exists, they don't even care about JP.
I'm a holofag, but i probably know more nijisanji talents than he does, how embarrassing is that?

There was no genuine reason to fire her other than sheer cruelty of the management and the CEO.

>>61504535
>manager raping half of HoloJP
Source?

>>61503337
>>61503339
I'm just saying, holo is not entirely a conventional company either. I'm sure a big chunk of earnings depend on the talents. And for sure they profited a lot from Rushia. To this day, Rushia is still the most superchatted in youtube.

Don't get me wrong, what she did is 100% wrong and was grounds for termination. But a heavy punishment would have sufficed. Maybe half year suspension without or limited pay. All socials handed to management. Something along these lines. Maybe even internet and business literacy classes.

It could have been a growing up moment for her. No more GFEs. Unicorns filtered out. All the works.

And you have the uber magnanimous Cover corp.

Could have been a win-win. Oh well.

>>61504557
That's simple. Nijifags are fans of niji talents while Holofags are fans of the corporation.

>>61504561
She breached her contract. Not hard to understand.

>>61504615
Have you ever signed an NDA in your life? Would you ever trust someone who broke one?

>>61504597
>Source?
4chan archive. Start doing y
our reps, newfag.

>>61504597

>>61504597

>>61504615
t. neet

>>61504615
>"AHHH HOLOLIVE IS A BLACK COMPANY FOR FIRING HER!!"
>But a heavy punishment would have sufficed. Maybe half year suspension without or limited pay. All socials handed to management.

>>61504705
mikecucks are braindead. she directly told her kaigai fans to fuck off and they still try to defend her honor.

>>61504630
They are fans of the EN branch, not much difference there.

>>61504667
>Translation: I have no proof

>>61504597

>>61504733
>mikecucks
Funny hearing that from a holocuck. The only difference is that you are brown.

>>61504683
What does this have to do with holoJP?

>>61504770
I accept you concession.

>>61504597
He's retarded, he's talking about Mel's manager. But he kinda has a point there, it took Mel to go to the police to get anything done. Not sure what happened there, but Cover dropped the ball with that.

>>61504775
Nice try at memoryholing, intern, you'll get your 10 yen sent to your account today.

>>61504561
You know that house you're in? It was bought by signing a contract. The internet that you're using? Bought by signing a contract. Whatever device you're using to post? Bought with a contract.
Guess what happens when you violate these contracts, hello new homeless

>>61504615
>Rushia
>No more GFE
kek, she would rather stop streaming altogether than stop doing GFE, that's all she knows.

>>61504615
Bro she broke a NDA. Normally if you break an NDA a company does more then just fire you. Do people not know how big a fucking deal it is to do this?

>>61504820
Ironic.

>>61504837
Mel's life is people trying to rape her for some. After that they seemed to just shy away from male managers all together for awhile, not sure if they still do.

>>61504837
>it took Mel to go to the police to get anything done
But it didn't.

>>61505044
>Do people not know how big a fucking deal it is to do this?
You're asking this on a board filled with teenagers and NEET ojisans who's only work experience is hearing about it on the internet. What do you think?

How the fuck is there so much make believe shit in this thread.

>>61505181
I might be wrong, but I saw a while ago a video where a talent said (it might've been Towa) that she changed her manager a few times, so i guess they now have to choice to choose their manager if they don't mesh well together.
>>61505204
Not sure what happened afterward, but after that she started streaming, so i take that as a sign that something happened.

>>61505299
Did they not see what happened to the NDA leak from the guy working on DQ?

>>61505328
You have no idea what happened at all.

Still can't believe they fired their biggest cash cow just because she leaked a couple of discord screenshots.

>>61504350
No wonder Pomu is trying to leech on FWMC and desperately wants an MGS sponsorship.
Kek
BAU BAU NIJINIGGERS!!

>>61503069
>>61503165
She sued and a japanese court of law found that she was a virgin and was innocent

>>61505348
I'm willing to learn anon, do you know, i'm a bit curious about it. Can you say it here, or do you have to delve too much into RM stuff?

>>61501682
didn't she put out a message saying she hated overseas fans? why should I care?

>>61505391
kek

>>61503968
just a landslide difference between her and Henya. Henya fully embracing her new group and collabing with many

>>61505356
I hope you never become a manager.

>>61505400
You're clearly someone who doesn't even watch vtubers and just reads posts and spreads rumors.

>>61505356
A NDA leak is serious and I mean serious and I mean very fucking serious. Most times it won't just get fried right away, normally you will get sued, always lose and a good chunk of time you see jail time.

>>61505459
What rumors am i spreading that are wrong?
Are you gonna say what happened or not? Stop being such a faggot. I'm willing to be proved wrong, as i said, i didn't look much into it.

>>61504254
THE STRONGEST DUO

>>61505356
It shows how Cover don't care about money.
Unlike Blacksanji who took 98% from their livers, no support during debut but sends them into debts, and stores their livers silver and gold to their CEO's yacht.
Kek
Nijisister, keep sucking Riku's cock. You'll get 3% increase.

>>61505544
The ones you're posting. Just now you made it clear that everything you just posted is something you got from this board.

>>61503968
and she keeps desperately trying to get in contact with hololive members to the extent they had to get a restraining order against her
I feel like every time mike says she's suing antis she actually means she has a new lawsuit against her

>>61505181
Her life is also one chasing male so i suppose she don't mind it.

>>61501682
You know, how about just not being like this?

>>61505730
Can someone help me understand what this non English speaking person is trying to say?

>>61505688
Wait they had restraining order against Nazuna? Can I see the source?

>>61504941
KEK

>>61505639
Can you specify what rumors exaclty?

>>61503968
>and has ignored Henya since she debuted despite her desperately wanting to collab.
I think its been pretty clear the reason Mike ignores Henya because she's not a "pure" Japanese and speaks mainly in English.

>>61505808
I think anon is referring to that time Mike tried to join a tourney that had holo's in it but she got blacklisted from it.

>>61505781
"Your oshi is a whore."
Clear enough now?

>>61501810
It's probably because one didn't have a bf and the other did. The truer it is the deeper the hole.

>>61505626
>Cover don't care about money
>2%
360$, holonigger

>>61505904
Ahhhh, Thanks

>>61505808
Pekora just mentioned Rushia and Rushia as Mikeneko also mentioned Pekora in one of her streams.
What restraining order are you making up?

>>61506077
I was asking about the restraining order the other anon talked about

>>61505895
Everything you said about Mel. You have no idea about what actually happened. All of your information is from this board.

I'm starting to think that this "restraining order" is of a fictitious nature and is typically known as "headcanon"

>>61503282
I don't think it was a mistake to fire her but she deserves a 2nd chance. People can change.

>>61506002
The NIJINIGGER couldn't even make a counter argument. Lmao
Zhangs have limited Brain cells that if they lose argument they grumble on their stupidity. What did we expect from a race that's easily triggered by a single word? Kek

>>61506204
She was on her 4th chance already.

>>61506204
She pretty much busted her second chance ( and third and so on) with all the BS that happened between her being fired and now.

>The NIJINIGGER couldn't even make a counter argument. Lmao
>Zhangs have limited Brain cells that if they lose argument they grumble on their stupidity. What did we expect from a race that's easily triggered by a single word? Kek

>>61506204
>2nd Chance
>Working under a signed contract with a corpo
Anon, you just told everyone you never worked on your life.
The second chance that was given to Rushia is that Cover never pursued her for legal damages for breaking NDA which is normal to do if Cover is Nintendo, Sony or Square Enix which these three are known for.
In fact Rushia still have enough money to make two debuts(as Mikeneko 2.0 (rushia-ish), and in Vshojo after being terminated and even got her artist as Rushia work for her again.
Get a job anon.

>>61506134
I wasn't even on this board or 4chan when that happened anon, (this board didn't even exist back then anyway) and i admit i only read what other people were saying on reddit back then when she tweeted about her situation.
Now that i looked more into it, it looks like even the police couldn't do anything about the stalker she had either. She only fixed the situation when she hired a lawyer.
I guess Cover couldn't do much about it, if we were to believe the official statements that were released.

>>61506463
Bugman is speechless lmao
Kek.

why nijiniggers are like this?

>>61506830
Their latest wave "TTT" (nobody knows what it stands for) has been a career ending flop so they have to take out their frustration somewhere

>Bugman is speechless lmao
>Kek.

>>61505781
A whore shouldn't cry when they get what they are searching for
Capiche?

>>61506918
>"TTT"
come from PEKORA TOWER in MINECRAFT

>>61501810
>suisei: "i don't have boyfriend"
Suisei never said that. She just talked about how the rumors got out of proportion, but never at any point said that she didn't have a boyfriend.
The only thing she said is that the other guy said they weren't in a relationship.
She didn't at any point say who or what was the sound coming from her stream either.

>>61501682
After reading the posts and replies on this thread, I realize that this was made by a Nijisister again.
Wtf, did I miss something? Why is a Nijisister trying to deflect again with this thread?
Did their new wave flop?
Did Gura stream again?
Is there a new Nijisanji drama?

>>61506599
She started to work with Vshojo, now she's working for a small corpo idk the name, her model is literally the same, if she had a chance to go back you can bet she would take it

>>61507054
>She didn't at any point say who or what was the sound coming from her stream either.
she's going to explain that soon. she said it was something that could compromise her opsec if she talked about it right now.

>>61507054
>She didn't at any point say who or what was the sound coming from her stream either
She said she would say it when she moves. Probably doxx risk

>>61501780
Stream started 3 minutes ago retard

>>61506998
true usada construction should sue them.

>>61506946
Bugman in a nutshell:
Copy pastes replies because it couldn't think for itself lmao
Everyday we thank Coco for taking Hololive out of stinkpit called China.

>>61507054
It wasn't a sound on stream that started the shit show it was a switch friend notification.
If your going to make schizo rrats at least get your base facts right. You need a solid foundation of truth to build your rrat on top of for it to be believable.

>>61507057
This has to be fake.

this is your "livers" btw

>>61507215
It seems you aren't on par with the drama. The "sound" coming from her stream is what started the "they are living togeher" yab.

>>61507233
jesus christ it hasnt even been 24 hours and they're already 3views

>>61507295
almost a 3views if not for the no overlap.

>>61507211
>ruining Holo's business in China
>then fuck off
kek

>>61501682

>>61503360
Still better than niji's latest batch of debuts

>trying to live your life as a celebrity icon instead of just raking in money
lollolololol yeah okay get ready to be real disappointed by this self-important karen of a girl who's spent the last like year or two going off on some weird shit about how v-tubing is over? my best friend literally stopped watching all streams because Suisei told him to. he refers to all vtubers as "vtumors" while everyone else in our friend group just continues to enjoy things.

like I'm glad it was revealed finally that she's mental and has a Madonna sized ego, there isn't even an argument here, you guys are just genuinely unlucky with her. she was extremely tricky and extreme GFE if you ask me, it was a particular type of GFE, an extreme flavor of it centered on a woman who thinks she'll be hot shit to age 75 in multiple mediums. Suisei is perhaps the only holomem that could become a tasteless enough person one day to just actually be exiled from Japanese society. Genuine will-be-institutionalized-more-than-once energy. this isn't kid menhera, this is adult menhera that develops when you're not good enough in your 30's that she actually dies of later.

>>61507269
Proof pls for your own delusion?
Because almost everyone except you here only got that kind of rrat. Are you gonna say you saw her the red stain on her panties too?

>>61507269
Then they are retarded. Suisei literally replayed it on stream; it was some truck's speaker thing that's super common in Japan.

>>61507220
It's legit. You can check or even search YT for it.

>>61506204
Usually people need to start changing to get a second chance. You cant look at her and honestly say she’s getting better

>>61507351
Subhuman is trying to change the narrative again. As expected from disgusting duckrats race who consume gutter oil, no braincells left due to mutations and cancer. Kek.

>>61507594
I don't even hate suisei. But if you don't even know that, I'm not going to give ammunition to a random eop retard.

>>61507617
She said that it's just a sound that came from outside, but not only it's impossible to confirm that, but she also edited the VOD.

>>61507943
Looks like NijiEN didn't do as expected

>>61507926
No shit, those trucks run on schedules; of course she's going to cut them out. Also, she literally played part of it on this stream.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96z5643T7UQ

>>61507926
>I can't give you proof because I don't have one. Just let me rrat.
Lol.
So it's all headcanon. Next time anon, try to pretend that you have one before making yourself a clown on a thread.

>>61507351
Subhuman is trying to change the narrative again. As expected from disgusting duckrats race who consume gutter oil, no braincells left due to mutations and cancer. Kek.

>>61507351
Well said Wan Yu Zhang

>>61507351
>Holo's business
more like bilibili tried an IP grab and went scorched earth when that failed

>>61508039
>those trucks run on schedules; of course she's going to cut them out
I don't believe this. She did streams before on this same timeslot, and never had any problems with the sound of trucks coming into the stream.
Also, if that was the problem, she wouldn't just cut it out of the stream just to replay it again. Anyone could piece it together to know when exactly the truck passed in front of her house.
Either way, Suisei has said multiple times that she doesn't want this kind of audience, but ultimately, she knows that if people finds out she has a boyfriend, her popularity and audience drops a lot, so it wouldn't be the first time a supposed idol or even singer for that matter, would be hiding a relationship.

>>61508690
She never said it was a truck. It's only speculation.

>>61508858
I never said she did. I said that I don't believe that it was a scheduled truck, like the ones that goes asking for recyclable paper or stuff like that.

>>61508917
And how do you know it was someone else?

>>61504561
It's not the first time she ran crying to that dramatuber because of petty bullshit (I think it was another holo overlapping her, or something like that?). They chewed her out for it, told her to cut the menhera bullshit and to stop fucking talking to him. She learned absolutely NOTHING, and, instead of just staying quiet for a couple of days, she went back to that dramatuber again. They probably didn't WANT to fire her, but if she's going to keep being a retarded liability every time a minor inconvenience happens, they didn't have a choice but to tell her to leave. The fact she wasn't sued by them for an NDA breach is basically the nicest thing they could do in this situation.

>>61509040
How do you know it wasn't?
Either way, weird sound came out from her stream, enough for her to panic and quickly mute the stream. Also, she somehow was able to get rid of the sound in a couple of seconds.

>>61509839
Because it literally happened to a lot of other Vtubers before, and only a retard that doesn't understand Japanese wouldn't know? And again she literally replayed it on stream, and you can compare it to clip from the older stream if you are not a brain-dead moron.

>>61507269
No it fucking wasn't lol schizo nips just latched onto that as "evidence" after the switch notification shit, but that thing by itself didn't start shit other than some irrelevant shitposting for a few days. Get your facts straight before parroting bullshit.
>>61508690
>she wouldn't just cut it out of the stream just to replay it again
She replayed it because she's moving soon so it doesn't matter, or at least not as much as retarded dramaniggers going nuts over social media. She literally talked about moving a day or two before the switch thing even happened.

>>61503968
maybe the vshojo contract isnt as amazing as the people under it claim to be

>>61501803
>Not even 100k
Grim indeed

>>61508176
woah, china is so tiny and irrelevant.

>>61501682
How are those comparable? One is a corpo 3D live event featuring some of the most successful vtubers in the world singing together with high-end studio equipment, another is some super smash bros stream

>>61501682
Russia.....

>click on 200 reply thread, expecting to see anons making funny jokes about how much fun the four on the left are having while the other one is left out
>literally not a single post about the streams themselves, just holofags saying that the left one has bigger numbers
i can't even laugh at them anymore

>>61501682
HOLY GRIM

>>61505356
Japan the same country that easily gives scripts for anime as well as scene frames for the VA to get an idea before recording without NDAs. If they have you sign NDAs it’s probably for a good reason.

>>61510000
>Because it literally happened to a lot of other Vtubers before
A lot of vtubes have been outed as having a boyfriend too. This doesn't mean anything. I find it funny that Hoshiyomis doesn't care that she has a boyfriend, when yabs comes out that she has one, they keep claiming how impossible it is for her to have one, despite her never saying once that she doesn't have a boyfriend.

>>61510411
>he believes in the truck rrat
If it's a scheduled truck, we would have heard it before in any of the other streams she did at that time of the week.

>>61501810
Management let Suisei handle her situation that way because of how they messed up the Rushia situation. Remember, A-chan talk about how they didn't want to fire Rushia.

>>61505500
>serious
>had literally no effect on the company or any employees (except for the one who got fired)
uh huh

>>61511206
>they messed up the Rushia situation
Rushia messed up her own situation. Of course they didn't want to fire Rushia, but Cover wasn't a small company anymore, if they didn't fire Rushia, it would leave a terrible precedent.

>>61511200
You do realize that schedule doesn't mean weekly, right? That is why people called you retarded, btw.

>>61511093
but big numba beat smol noomba very funni

>>61504389
Why in the fuck would he say anything else
Niji has had its worst year probably ever in terms of graduations and public perception.
You think they'd let any of their talents do anything other than damage control?

And even then, Luca said shit like "if we're still here, it can't be THAT bad"
Which is not exactly a glowing appraisal

>>61504615
>and was grounds for termination
Which means she gets terminated.

If your contract says you get terminated for doing X, then the company will have to terminate you when you do X.

I have to confess.
I like the Rushia ripoff model.

>>61505904
>because she's not a "pure" Japanese and speaks mainly in English
Meanwhile she just had two collabs with Onigiri who barely speaks Japanese at all

Henya is a native speaker

>>61502661
This is true, I'm her manager and I told her to cut off the drama as soon as possible. I also buy her groceries and make her bed every single day because she is a lazy fuck, I'm not paid enough for this crap.

>>61510575
>could have left when Silver, Vei and Nyan did
>is still with the company
>has not mentioned her contract in any capacity
>"Well obviously her contract must suck! Surely it has nothing to do with her being actually mentally ill. Never mind the 11 other members, all significantly more sound-of-mind, who couldn't be happier with the company."

>>61511471
Anon, no one said that it was weekly.
Where I live in Shinjuku, for example, the burnable trash truck comes every tuesday and friday, while the recyclable paper truck is scheduled for the second and fourth wednesday of each month.
Unless you have someone else separate the trash for you, any regular resident already knows which days and at what time the truck usually comes by.
If that really was a truck, it's basically impossible that this wouldn't have happened before, since she wasn't streaming at a novel time for her.
But sure, go on, tell me how much you don't know about the japanese society.

>>61502038
SNEAKY NEAKY NEAKY NEAKY NEAKY

>>61512097
You do realize that garbage trucks are not the only ones with loud speakers, right?

>>61511200
just say you want a reason to shitpost on Suisei or hoshiyomi. Just say it, you keep pulling things out of your ass when she already said she would explain everything.

>>61501682
3k isn't even that bad. She can make a living playing video games with those numbers easily despite the stupid shit she did.

>>61512097
I don't live in Japan and even I know they have shit like local politicians driving around with loudspeakers to advertise their campaign, which would be extremely bad if caught on-stream

>>61512152
>missing the point this bad
You are free to tell me examples of scheduled trucks that could be. If you can't name a single one, then how do you claim that it was a scheduled truck?

>>61512366
Not a scheduled truck, retard. This is why people are calling you a retard.

>>61512230
I don't need a reason. Suisei is giving treats to her antis like candy on halloween. Suisei doing this just ruins the image of Hololive as a whole, just like the Rushia incident.

>>61511892
>Henya is a native speaker
Then let me correct myself then.

Mike won't collab with Henya because Henya mainly speaks english and panders to the english fanbase.

Is that better?

>>61512673
>because Henya mainly speaks english and panders to the english fanbase
Did you read the first half of my previous post

>>61512643
>Suisei doing this just ruins the image of Hololive as a whole
and the suischizo reveals himself, kill yourself.

>>61512710
No because I genuinely have no clue (nor do I care) who Onigiri is.

All that matters is Henya. The fanbase she panders to is English speaking and the majority of her streams are done in English.

>>61512721
Ah yes, because trying to "own the haters" always works.
Also nothing I said so far is more than common knowledge.

>>61503031
Ah yes totally organic raids.

>>61501682
Fuck ypu.

>>61512643
Nigga, please go to literally any political party website.

>>61512873
Well if you weren't a retard you could take 5 seconds to Google it and find that Onigiri is an English-speaking vtuber who streams exclusively in English to an exclusively English-speaking audience

>>61502038
3k is fucking amazing for an indie who gets to keep all the profits herself. But is the money worth it when she has no friends left?

>>61501810
The cat was leaking shit to korekore way before the yab. That is the reason why she was fired.

>>61501810
There is a difference, though. Rushia was a GFE streamer, Suiseggs isn't. In fact, she explicitly said it was a waste of time to gachikoi her, since she would never reciprocate. And that was in a member's only stream, even.

>>61504350
>Getting rid of useless menheras and leakers like Mysta, Zaion, Yugo and Nina
I'll never forgive Nijisanji for what they took from me

>>61513117
>Onigiri is an English-speaking vtuber who streams exclusively in English to an exclusively English-speaking audience
Uhh.... then I guess I'm stumped then, anon. I actually wasn't expecting you to have a "counter-argument" and was just hoping that the "Henya speaks mainly english and panders to the english fanbase" would have done the trick.

I guess I was wrong then. I admit defeat.

>>61513520
Fuck. Why did you have to remind me anon...

>>61513052
>political trucks
>at this time of the year
I see you have no idea what you are talking about. Do you think Japan has political trucks going on 365 days of the year? Is there any country that does? What is with this distorted image of japan.

>>61513839
at least her PL is finally mentally strong enough to stream again she sang VtL during karaoke a few days ago... I missed archiving the beginning chunk of the stream though

>>61506998
How nice of them to name their group after Pekora's creation. Maybe they're not that bad after all

>>61514000
>Thinking that stream was this time of the year.
Are you fucking retarded?

>>61507351
>ruining Holo's business in China
Nothing good comes from associating with China

>>61501810
>yab end
maybe if you’re an EOP. Nips won’t forget. They now know she’s dating someone. Just because it’s not a hot topic anymore doesn’t mean she got away and that everyone believes her. Learn Japanese.

>>61516164
She already explained everything. There is no "yab".

>>61516256
>gets out of her way to meet a famous male idol who’s her fan only to play games
If you believe that you deserve to be lied to.

>>61501810
Mafu is a way bigger idol than Sui’s boyfriend and therefore Rushia got a lot more unpopular a lot more quickly. Ultimately Cover fired her because it was the most convenient way to end the drama at the time.

>>61511458
It's both. Management and Rushia both messed up the situation.
Management did better with Suisei.
Also, the way Suisei acted was probably highly influenced by what saw from the Rushia situation.
People learn from the past, shocking.

>>61516425
She said they're just gaming buddies. Suisei is a JP. JPs don't lie.

>>61511458
The precedent is already there, what Rushia did is a minor transgression compared to what other members and management did. They even protected a manager who was assaulting and doxxing Mel for a year.

Can I play games with Susi? I am a fan too and I would love to be her gaming buddy.

>>61501810
This

>>61516164
>>61516425
2 more weeks

>>61516538
>Mafu is a way bigger idol than Sui’s boyfriend
First, they aren't dating
Second, what you said is literally false, Mafumafu is way smaller than Sakuma Daisuke.

>>61517064
The point is that her career has a taint now. She’s too mainstream for that to have an impact on her sales but the point is that it’s not like now she doesn’t have a bf because she said so (to begin with she didn’t addressed how she met him and why is she giving a fan special treatment, this last point being what the nips are the most angry about), a lot people believe they are dating as is the most logical conclusion one can reach.

>>61517250
>she didn’t addressed how she met him and why is she giving a fan special treatment
GOD FUCKING IDIOT. WATCH STREAM, NO, WATCH CLIPS. IT'S LITERALLY CLIPPED.

>>61517250
It's amazing that you retards are acting like this is the first time they interact; she literally sent him a birthday message last year.

>>61505626
>Commit one of the most despicable acts of betrayal in the industry for money
>This shows Cover doesn’t care about money
Smartest Holobrony

>>61516967

Rushia was fired for giving information to Sabaki. Talking to Sabaki is going to get you fired from almost every entertainment company in Japan because no one wants to give any potential credibility to a person that openly lies to create stories.

The information about Cover "protecting" the manager also comes from Sabaki. There has never been another source about it. He didn't get punished because Japanese labor laws are a bitch to deal with and companies would prefer those people resign and go away than spend literally years trying to get the right to fire them.

>>61503282
breaking NDA and leaking information to the alleged japanese equivalent of keemstar is pretty much a fate sealer. Breaking NDA in general is fucking retarded. It also made Cover look extremely strong in the long run, being able to make an example out of the person who had the highest superchat revenue at the time meant that no one would be given special treatment if they went behind the corporation's back.

>>61516563
>Management did better with Suisei.
How? They did the exact same thing with Suisei

>>61517452
Yes, just like okayu got a birthday message from hikakin. From there to adding him to her list of private friends in her personal account is quite huge gap, retard.
>>61517329
Learn japanese, subhuman. She didn’t address the two things I said and particularly the second one is the one nips are the most angry about. Go and explain to them in their language how things that are not there suddenly showed up in your dreams.

>>61510907
Any random Pekora or Marine stream has 10 times the amount of those viewers, it ends on the same thing

>>61518037
ok, schizo.

>>61518037
At least learn about what you're talking about, please. That was not the first time they interacted, either. Stop larping like you know Japanese if you don't even know basic information.

>>61518458
>larping
I speak japanese, dumb fuck. I never said that was the first time they interacted either. I only pointed out two things the nips are angry about, one being how did they meet beyond a casual congratulation message years ago because you surely don’t go out of your way to meet an idol dude and add him in your personal accounts without talking further with him privately and considering had she been found out a shitfest would’ve started (and it happened) the reason to put her career and public opinion of her at risk had to be really good.

>>61519383
why does it matter to you? you are not a fan. You just want a reason to anti.

>>61519383
Of course you know Japanese, that's why you're just parroting retarded ratts that everyone who cares a bit about vtuber is laughing at. Even using Google Translate would show literally zero comments from Suisei's paypig that even care about this.

>>61512995
What is that supposed to mean? If you check the times on the spikes you can see the messages in chat announcing that a raid took place and Mori acknowledging it.

>>61501682
Why are hololive fans so obsessed over numbers?
This is disappointing and an unfortunate trend for the community.

>>61519615
Nice to see now that you can’t deny what I said you try to move the goalpost and call me an anti because I dared to point out question on the JP side are asking.
Asking question doesn’t make you an anti, not asking them and making up narratives to keep your hugbox tight makes you a retard though. Fandead tier mentality.
>>61519719
>even with google translate
If you don’t have anything to say then shut up and learn Japanese. A subhuman even mentioning google translator surely knows what the Japanese public opinion on the matter is, sure.

>>61519968
You can't even use Google Tranlaste retard; stop larping.

>>61507054
Her chat already figured it out the instant she mentioned that. It was likely one of those politician trucks.

>>61519968
I never called you an anti, schizo. Take your meds.

>>61520069
NTA but I don't need google translate, because I am fluent in Japanese. Can you name the places you visit to check the current discussion on Suisei?

>>61518017
They had not stabbed Suisei in the back from what I can tell.

>>61520286
When did they stab Rushit in the back?

>>61504941
Inaccurate. Flare would be pissed that she still has elf ears and tan skin.

>>61517741
>There has never been another source about it.
Cover admitting it counts as a source.

>>61520285
>NTA
>but starts talking as if it was addressed to him personally
fucking dumb schizo

>>61505181
It must suck to attract people that are fucked up enough to rape you. I'm not talking about people that think about it, but the ones that don't have the self-control to not do it.

>>61505688
>>61505808
It's not restraining order but she's blacklisted from some events. There were no specifics given why she got kicked out but it's known that that specific tournament was organized by mafumafu's friends, had a holostar participating and some other people who knew mikeneko. The safest assumption imo would be that a lot of people know she's menhera and it's better to avoid her. Vague but we can't really say more. In worst case scenario it could be interpreted that she's banned from all events of value considering she pissed off people with many connections in various industries. In that sense it would be worse than any "restraining order" or whatever that dumbass made up.

>>61520470
>Can't answer the question

>>61520769
NTA, but you are literally a retard.

>>61505904

>>61505904

>>61503282
>already given a chance and all mistake sweep under the rug by cover, warning her not to do it again with dramatuber in 2019
>do it again.

>>61501682
oh no she's an indie with 3k viewers, it's unironically over

also >>61514541

>>61505328
from things some holos have said I think they shuffle the managers around occasionally, probably a mixture of getting experience and dumb jap laws. this leads to noel getting time off to mourn her hamster but mikeneko not getting much when one of her cats died
>>61518017
it's not hard to do better than telling her they'll take care of it after the long weekend which would be after Valentine's Day

>>61501682
>Youtube JP
YWNBJ

>>61516164
>Learn Japanese.
I remember this one JP video where literally every single comment was a tongue-in-cheek comment disparaging Mikeneko for getting NG'd out of epe matsuri.
There was a single english comment that sincerely said "Everyone is so supportive of her".

I think it was this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wei4Hp0Xnww

>>61501810
isn't it funny how the unicucks did it to themselves
>Accuse oshi of having a bf
>Oshi in turn goes to Jap keemstar and gets her self fired
>Turns out she never had a bf in the first place

rUMAO

>>61521205
proof?

>>61502661
You cucks genuinely believe that? Holy kek.

>>61503031
3,2k raid and your whore isn't even entertaining enough to keep them at bay.

>>61522163
Again, they did the same to her as to Suisei. The context of her wanting to hurry things up to collect her Valentine's Day superchats shouldn't put her on some kind of express lane to rush out a statement. She would not have streamed that weekend no matter what had happened.

>>61521205
Smells like BS. Its more believeable that she got blacklisted because there was holo members in the tourney or god forbid, it was run by aliens friends.

>>61520612
Between Kson, Tamaki, and many other groups she’s worked with, it’s clear those who have integrity and know who she is are willing to work with her. The thing is that anyone who doesn’t hate money is obviously going to side with the big corpo.

>>61522635
Anon, it would be kinda impressive to retain all of them for the whole 6 hours she streamed since the raid.

>>61522660
Cover flat out admitted they didn’t feel like doing anything at first because they didn’t want to work on the weekend. Try again.

>>61505547
The strongest leeching whore with the most hardworking talent at HololiveJP*

>>61501810
It took Mike 20 twitcast streams, 3 vtuber designs and 100 menhera tweets to explain she maybe doesn't have a relationship

>>61522917
Where's this admission? Try what again? Suisei was treated the same as Rushit. She had to wait days to say anything.

>>61523283
how could I ever think cover could be wrong? thanks for clarifying things for me friend

>>61521694
Yea but she could’ve joined her friends and had like 80k.

>>61524095
The claim was that rushit was exclusively stabbed in the back and got treated worse. That's beyond just thinking that Cover handled the situation badly.
Stop being a snake, cuckifami.

>>61519949
t. 2view

>>61524357
thanks for gracing this thread with your unmatched intelligence and morals buddy

>>61507054
if you're nitpicking in order to imply I'm her boyfriend, I concede defeat

>>61524772
Why are you still doing this moral character act? You are garbage people. It's a stretch to even call you a person.

>>61502837
Didn't management outright put out a statement telling people who care about the talents personal lives to fuck off? They outright were defending her, and people were extremely loyal to her and defending her until she decided to be a retard and leak private shit to a 3rd party to try and clear herself. It's entirely her fault that she ended up getting fired, and it's entirely her fault that she ended up severing her relationships with her genmates.

>>61524898
why is it an act? can't I be glad to bask in the presence of my better? why si angry pal?

>>61525047
Your sarcasm is as brown as your skin.

>>61524357
>The claim was that rushit was exclusively stabbed in the back and got treated worse.
Because it’s true no matter how many times you repeat the lie she was treated the same as Sui.
>>61524964
You have to be genuinely retarded to think Cover was “defending” her with that statement.

>>61525513
How were they treated differently?

>>61524964
saying they didn't care if she or any of the others were in a relationship is some stellar support. they only did that after their usual method failed like it always does of course

>>61524964
As you can see from the schizo responses, a normal response like that is perceived as a literal assassination of her reputation. They were supposed to lie and say they care deeply about her relationships, inspected her hymen and confirmed that she still passes the idol test so she can remain in hololive.

>>61524095
Yagoo is wholesome Reddit 100 and would never do anything bad for money.

>>61525782
Didn't really watch her but was here at the time and I remember seeing somebody mention how a statement saying something like "we ask any worried or disappointed fans to please wait to hear from our talent about the rumors before jumping to conclusions instead of believing harmful and unconfirmed anti extrapolations that may not even be true" would've probably been a lot better

>>61522917
>Cover flat out admitted they didn’t feel like doing anything at first because they didn’t want to work on the weekend
No, it's not because "they didn't want to work on weekend", it was because it's fucking normal to not work on weekend. Rushia was the problem, all she had to do was wait two days.