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>Parents have almost never referred to her by name, only as "little sister"
>Forced into studying and extracurricular activites her entire adolescent life, not allowed to play games or go on the internet
>Would be punished for scoring below a 90 on a test
>Dad won't congratulate her on anything she does no matter how hard she works, always insists that even he could do it
>If she ever gets sick, she's only allowed to take traditional eastern medicine of ground tiger penis and ginseng root
>Kicked out of the house and made to live in a shed for talking too loudly
Why is this ok?

>> No.61360736

>>61360625
>Why is this ok?
ASIANS PARENT

>> No.61360962

>>61360625
I CAN SAVE HER

>> No.61361062

>>61360625
>Asian parents
self perpetuating mental illness carrousel

>> No.61361120

>>61360625
It does explain why she's so dull and uncharismatic.

>> No.61361150

>>61360625
Don't care, she encourages homobeggars and forces being an ignorant zoomer as a personality trait

>> No.61361216

>>61360625
and people wonder why so many asians are sociopaths

>> No.61361236

>>61360625
Wtf are these lies??
What I hate more than rrats are these fucking baseless lies.
kys op

>> No.61361266

>>61360625
>Move out from your dystopian country ruled by Chinese communist
>start over with your wife, to give your kids a better chance at live
>Work like an ant for your family
>be a victim of racism and abuse, but what ever your kids will get the fruits of your hard labor
>Educate your kids right, make them join extracurricular activities that they choose
>Pay them private tutors so they get good grades so they can get good grades
>be always there for them
>Kid expect to be congratulated because they got a 90 on a test, even thought they had the advantage of private tutors, ok what ever kid.
>Buy your kid stuff that you don't understand, it's their hobby and they should be happy
>Pay their college in cash, at least they are going to college, what ever is their major
>Daughter decide to become a youtuber
>Worse than that, she decide to become an anime girl and her main audience is old men that need constantly emotional support from her
>Realize your daughter has become an emotional whore to thousands of men all over the world
>All your effort end up becoming nothing

I would be mad too

>> No.61361363

>>61360625
>If she ever gets sick, she's only allowed to take traditional eastern medicine of ground tiger penis and ginseng root

I'd like to shit on the Chinese for their voodoo medicine, but then I remember that chiropractic is still legal.

>> No.61361522
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61361522

>>61361266
I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than having a daughter. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are feeding, clothing, raising and rearing a girl for at least 18 years solely so she can go and get ravaged by another man. All the hard work you put into your beautiful little girl - reading her stories at bedtime, making her go to sports practice, making sure she had a healthy diet, educating her, playing with her. All of it has one simple result: her body is more enjoyable for the men that will eventually fuck her in every hole. Raised the perfect girl? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky, a random man who had nothing to do with the way she grew up, who marries her. He gets to fuck her tight pussy every night. He gets the benefits of her kind and sweet personality that came from the way you raised her. As a man who has a daughter, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least 20 years of your life simply to raise a girl for another man to enjoy. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Think about it logically

>> No.61361598

>>61361266
Sounds like trying to create a money slave that you can leech off of when you are old and not a human being that you love and understand. People who do that instead of creating a bond with their child is why most people these days actually do not respect the elderly. They did it to themselves

>> No.61361683

>>61361266
>makes more then your whole 7 generations combined with the best talent agency in the world.
Seethe harder shitter

>> No.61361904

>>61361683
Not everything is money, honor can't be bought and all vtubers lose their honor when they become one, like onlyfans whores even if they make a bank they are still don't have respect or honor

>> No.61362071

>>61360625
white culture is just superior. all we can do is watch them struggle to try to be happy or fullfilled in life, and fail.

>> No.61362219

>>61361236
These are all things she's talked about herself

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If her parents are so strict why did they let her be a rave thot and get tattoos?

>> No.61362300

>>61361904
cope more. poor fuck.

I bet that's exactly what middle eastern or chinese fucks that are weak and starving tell themselves when compared to the west.

>> No.61362478

>>61361904
I can't tell whether you're joking or actually being retarded

>> No.61362481

>>61361266
You are mentally ill.

>> No.61362522

>>61362239
She's said before that while she thinks tattoos are cool she'd never get one

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>>61361522
>Thinks about being a cuckhold when making a family

>> No.61362883

Once humanity finally wraps its collective head around time travel we should make going back to ancient China and beating up Confucius a top priority

>> No.61362907

>>61360625
That's just the typical Asian Immigrant experience. There is nothing special or different about what you just described.

>> No.61363005 [DELETED] 

>>61360625
hey, at least she wasn't forced into an arranged marriage to some ugly chink bastard cause he's the son of a good family friend.

>> No.61363032

>>61360625
Her parents did a good job, she's mentally stable, specially compared with other vtubers

>> No.61363087

>>61360625
Because she's A-sian not B-sian.

>> No.61363216

HEADPATS PRESS

>> No.61363219

>>61360625
>Parents have almost never referred to her by name, only as "little sister"
They also only refer to AneRat as "big sister", apparently an Asian thing
>Dad won't congratulate her on anything she does no matter how hard she works, always insists that even he could do it
>Kicked out of the house and made to live in a shed for talking too loudly
PapaRat is a typical Asian Dad who doesn't show affection in a conventional way or at least convetional to most of the world, he wouldn't go out of his way to build a shed for her to stream and more importantly do VRC if he doesn't think it's best for her. Whenever she partakes in concerts like 4thfes and CtW he would ask how big was the crowd in the venue and nod at the answer because he's a fucking numberfag, no actually that's just how he shows approval.
>If she ever gets sick, she's only allowed to take traditional eastern medicine of ground tiger penis and ginseng root
PapaRat still let everyone get the coof jab so he may not have been too far off the deep end of Eastern magical bullshit potions
>Forced into studying and extracurricular activites her entire adolescent life, not allowed to play games or go on the internet
>Would be punished for scoring below a 90 on a test
While most stereotypes about Asian tiger parents are overexaggerated, like most stereotypes they are still based on actual representation of that image.
Only thing to consider is taking it to the extent of Bae's case or worse, that's only possible and common among the Middle Class Asian households, working class can't afford to completely fill up 2 kids schedule with tutoring and extracurricular whatever, and let's just say Crazy Rich Asian got a few things right about the Upper Class.

>> No.61363232

>>61360625
hot. I was raised by the internet so now my brain is all fucked up

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>>61362522
Its a good thing women and vtubers never lie.

>> No.61363336

>>61360625
>If she ever gets sick, she's only allowed to take traditional eastern medicine of ground tiger penis and ginseng root
I find this hard to believe. Her sister is a doctor.

>> No.61363374

>>61361150
Because she has never socialized with men. It's something new and exciting for her.

>> No.61363404

>>61363336
She was just made to drink 4 cups of mysterious dark brown Chinese liquid to cure her sore throat and aching body

>> No.61363429

>>61361236
>What I hate more than rrats are these fucking baseless lies.
That's the definition of rrats, dumbass. What did you think it meant?

>> No.61363479

>>61361683
her sister probably makes more.

>> No.61363510

>>61360625
>Would be punished for scoring below a 90 on a test
Her parents clearly failed here. Why is she still that dumb even with this?
(And I'm not talking about her zoomer schtick. She is just as dumb as your average Holos when it comes to pattern recognizing and problem solving)

>> No.61363538

>>61362239
She has never been to a rave. She just likes listening to EDM while she studies

>> No.61363585

>>61363336
You don't know Asians then.
The poor ones are, in essence, the same as savages. And they're all poor except Japan.
I, personally, know somebody who's a pharmacist, so not quite a doctor, but his parents still believe in magical properties of certain foods. They'll believe things like the (supposed) chemicals in the fish in Thailand are what creates lady-boys lmao.
It's really absurd to see.

Just really proof that becoming a doctor doesn't require actual intelligence, just the ability to process the information you've learnt.

>> No.61363599

>>61363510
She couldn't live up to their expectations based on her sister's accomplishments and gave up on anything but humanities
That's why she's so clueless on anything even tangentially science or math related

>> No.61363658

>>61360625
>Westerner
>Having parents with no expectations
>Skyrocketting single mother rate in your country
>Skyrocketting mental health issues
Why is this ok?

>> No.61363659

>>61362907

It doesn't sound at all like the experiences of Kronii, Ina, Selen, Enna, Sana, Bijou, Petra or Kson.

Bae is an outlier.

>> No.61363714

>>61362300
>>61362478
Pretty Jewish to think money is that important.

>> No.61363718

>>61363219
imagine being so insecure and proudful you can't even call your daughter by the name. or show any affection at all.
does asian man think the government is watching them 24/7 and will ridicule them with footage of them being affectionate if they ever show any emotion?
I mean it might be true in china, but they fucking moved to australia, how traumatised is this mf?

>> No.61363735

>>61363510
she entered into med school. Definitely not dumb

>> No.61363780

>>61363599
Does she know about history and philosophy ? Genuine question.

>> No.61363832

>>61363658
Asians migrate to the west and not the other way

>> No.61363845

>>61363718
>but they fucking moved to australia
Asians be retarded.
My own Asian parents moved to Australia (I'm practically the same as her, in this regard) and won't believe when I say the Australian government won't just let mother fuckers put whatever chemicals in food as the please, that there are regulations.
Their impression of government is that it is the same from commie poor fuck countries to developed white people countries.
I honestly believe Australia should not let these people in, despite being one of them. They are utterly retarded and cannot assimilate to the country.

>> No.61363908

>>61363718
NTA

Old habits die hard
The "flee from Communism" trauma hits hardest among Viets, literal 'get on a boat and hope you dont die, shits better than communism' kind of trauma. That trauma is behind a 40 foot thick wall with guns and spikes guarding it.

>> No.61363907

>>61363510
you dont need any of those to score high grades. if anything you need a lack of these things

>> No.61363944

>>61363845
First gen never assimilate. The question is whether 2nd and 3rd gens can. I think Asians can and Muslims cannot.

>> No.61363997

>>61363907
Cope

>> No.61364012

>>61363658
>Asian
>poor
lol.

Japan really mucks it all up by being rich and developed like the Europeans, people don't realise HOW much poorer and retarded the rest of Asia is.

''Japan is the only nation in Asia that understands the principles and methods of Western civilization. She has proved that she can assimilate Western civilization, yet not break up her own heritage. All the Asiatic nations are now faced with the urgent necessity of adjusting themselves to the present age. Japan should be their natural leader in that process'.
- Theodore Roosevelt

>> No.61364046

>>61363658
asians study their entire lives just so they can be the perfect worker for their white/jewish boss

>> No.61364049

>>61363780
Likely not, she hasn't gone too into detail as to the specifics of her degree other than "humanities, japanese + some korean, and lots of essay work

>> No.61364059

>>61360625
>Have daughter
>Pay everything for her
>She get to med school
>Spend all my money on it
>She drop out to become a vtuber
>She somewhat expect to be respected on the family
>She say she work hard at playing video games while fat white men pay her


I would be mad too

>> No.61364067

>>61363658
Westerns have superiority complex

>> No.61364120

>>61363714
keep eating dirt buddy, I'm sure your religiouspolitical leader thinks you're very honorable for it

>> No.61364148

>>61361522
I mean, no one is stopping you from keeping your own daughter's holes for yourself. Just don't tell the masses about it.

>> No.61364209

>>61364120
Shalom

>> No.61364222

>>61363944
>The question is whether 2nd and 3rd gens can. I think Asians can
Barely.
I am 2nd generation. All my fellows retain the Asiatic 'memes (cultural genes)'. They don't attempt to caste them aside, or maybe it is they can't due to lack of wille.
My group of 2nd still only think about money, and that is very antithetical to the Australia 'memes (again, cultural genes)' of 'fair go'. Australia used to be very apathetic to flaunting wealth, white Australians didn't drive Mercedes cars or carried luxury, designer handbags. The Asians have brought that disgusting 'meme' of theirs here, and infected Australia with it.

>> No.61364229

>>61363659
Do you watch them? Ina and Kronii have typical Asian Tiger parents. Throw in IRyS and they all have overachieving older sisters, which they struggled to live up to.

>> No.61364238

>>61364067
It's pretty pathetic watching the dumb ones complain about immigrants and raving about past white achievements

>> No.61364292

>>61363718
>imagine being so insecure and proudful you can't even call your daughter by the name. or show any affection at all.
Sorry anon if you got the wrong idea, but they don't literally call them by "big sister" and "little sister", they call them by some affectionate nicknames in Cantonese, Bae obviously can't say the exact thing on stream.
However, you are still right about them not showing the affection that most of the world is used to, I think you're also spot on with the speculation of them being so prideful that they think their children need to earn praises and the ever so little affection by hard work. I have seen that type of Asian parents depicted in media and sometimes irl, so it might not be too far off to think so of PapaRat.

>> No.61364306

>>61364229
>Kronii have typical Asian Tiger parents.
What extracurricular activities they did? They both seem to know about popular culture too, unlike Bae
>>61364229
Didn't Irys grow up in Japan?

>> No.61364323

>>61364059
Bae has never said she went to med school

>> No.61364354

>>61364012
>Japan
>Only Nation

Singapore
Hong Kong
Taiwan
South Korea

Your weeaboo ignorance is showing.

>> No.61364358

>>61364238
Not him but I'm an Asian immigrant.
Is it not HIGHLY disrespectful (and utterly retarded) to mock the country you moved to because said country is BETTER than YOUR country?
If YOUR people are so great, why is YOUR country so shit? It is run by YOUR people.

The logical conlusion is: YOUR people are SHIT.

'To be aware of limitations is already to be beyond them'.
- Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

>> No.61364373

>>61363845
I'm the anon, and I'm on a similar boat, this thread made my blood boil a bit.
But I'll just learn from it and make sure i do a 100x better job with my children.

>> No.61364398

>>61364354
only 2 of those are countries retardchama

>> No.61364413
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>>61364354
>Singapore
British colony
>Hong Kong
British colony
>Taiwan
Japanese colony
>South Korea
Japanese colony.

>> No.61364433

>>61363997
i said that as someone who had 4.0 GPA before dropping college

>> No.61364436 [DELETED] 

>>61360625
She is also familiar with tinder so maybe she shouldn't be trusted to handle herself. She didn't have time to watch TV but she had time for dick

>> No.61364473

>>61364323
Dyr

>> No.61364496

I don't believe half of this bullshit. If she's a read b-girl/boy/whatever and goes to raves there is no way her hyper conservative parents haven't disowned her.

>> No.61364575

>>61364413
>South Korea
>Japanese colony
No its a brothel for Japanese soldiers get it right.

>> No.61364638

>>61364358
Geography and history, my brother

>> No.61364655

>>61364292
She said in no uncertain terms that she's just called "little sister" in whatever dialect they speak, you're looking too far into it
It's just likely not a weird thing in their dialect

>> No.61364666

>>61361522
Incest is the solution.

>> No.61364678

>>61364306
Kronii did ballet, swimming and piano. Ina was in her highschool and University orchestra as well as into sports.

>> No.61364701

>>61364229
>Ina and Kronii have typical Asian Tiger parents
No anonchama, Asian Tiger Parents doesn't exclusively mean making sure your children commit to taking care of your old ass like an extra income tax they have to pay every month. That's just half of the goal.

>> No.61364791

>>61364678
How come they know what is a PS1, a blue eyes white dragon and who is Tonny Hawk

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>>61364575
>Princeton's Atul Kohli concluded that the economic development model the Japanese instituted played the crucial role in Korean economic development, a model that was maintained by the Koreans in the post-World War II era.

>Randall S. Jones wrote that "economic development during the colonial period can be said to have laid the foundation for future growth in several respects"

>Lee Young-hoon, a professor at Seoul National University states that less than 10% of arable land actually came under Japanese control and rice was normally traded, not robbed. He also insists that Koreans' knowledge about the era under Japanese rule is mostly made up by later educators.[145][146][147][148]

>> No.61364844

Such is life when a rrat is raised by tigers

>> No.61364862

>>61364292
My parents,2nd generation immigrants, are like that too. and it harmed not only me but them as well, and for no good reason.
it's so weird to still carry that "pride" even when their parents are dead and the country that made them like this is on the other side of the planet.

>> No.61364946

>>61364791
They were sheltered, but obviously not to Bae's level.

>> No.61364964

>>61361266
China sounds better than Australia.

>> No.61364993

>>61364946
They don't sound sheltered at all

>> No.61365003

>>61360625
i'm the tiger btw

>> No.61365023
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>>61364638
>it's everything else's fault
>not mine
And this is exactly why YOUR people (I guess our people) will never become any better.
And, if it were true, why were the colonisers (Britain, Japan et cetera) able to make use of the country better than the locals? Because the locals are inferior.

'We assert then that nothing has been accomplished without interest on the part of the actors; and — if interest be called passion, inasmuch as the whole individuality, to the neglect of all other actual or possible interests and claims, is devoted to an object with every fibre of volition, concentrating all its desires and powers upon it — we may affirm absolutely that nothing great in the World has been accomplished without passion'.
- Vorlesungen über die Philosophie der Weltgeschichte

>> No.61365052

>>61364946
So you recognise Bae is an outlier.

>> No.61365120

>>61364638
noooooo you dont understand. my country is poor not because my culture is SHIT. our country was an utopia with no hunger or sickness but 500 years ago the evil west came and destroyed us! we got so sad we made turned our country into a shithole on pourpose as a form of protest.

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>>61364354
Not Taiwan Anon...
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/first-world-countries

>> No.61365140

>>61360625
Hardcore and abusive tiger parenting that she somehow thinks was good for her and still loves her parents

>> No.61365208

>>61365140
Is this a genuine case of gaslighting? Where she's been abused and molded to the point where she believes that all the abuse was for her own good and her failings are her own fault?

>> No.61365230

>>61365123
>United States visited
Anonchama...?!

>> No.61365229

>>61361266
Nice head cannon now go touch some grass

>> No.61365252

>>61365140
I'm sorry your parents disciplined you by grounding you. You clearly reflected on your mistake with your PC and your smartphone in your room.

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>>61365230
>United States Visited
It's purple, not black
It's not a clickable link

>> No.61365345

>>61365123
A lot of places won't list Taiwan as a 'country' per se because the chink commies will go apeshit over it.
So Taiwan gets lumped in with China, which is a shit hole.

>> No.61365376

>>61361266
Her parents are finally supportive of her current career because she makes money, she also sells it to them as her basically being a stage performer/singer which they are okay with and let's be honest, that's not that far from the truth considering her ambitions of having her sololive, releasing music and the fact that she plans to move to Japan to do more 3D stuff

>> No.61365394

>>61365330
>Be me
>Black not purple
Self retard moment

>> No.61365412

>>61365208
My sister still likes my mother, despite my mother calling her fat for her entire childhood.
It'd be more like Stockholm Syndrom than Gaslighting, I think.

>> No.61365458

>>61365208
It's more like stockholm syndrome, where the victim starts loving their abuser after a while.
It's often the case with abusive households, and it often repeats itself in the coming generations.

>> No.61365496

>>61365208
If you visited some of the threads where people brought up the topic of Asian Tiger Parents forcing their children to "work towards their future" 14 hours a day, everyday, for over 14 years. You can still find actual posts from possibly actual people defending that kind of parenting. It is definitely akin to stockholm syndrome that they somehow brainwashed themselves into thinking that is the best course of action when you raise a child.

>> No.61365515

>>61365023
>And, if it were true, why were the colonisers (Britain, Japan et cetera) able to make use of the country better
Because they had better technology, better culture, better position
than the locals? Because the locals are inferior.
They were superior due to their geography and history

>> No.61365534

>>61365140
Was it really that bad in the end? think about it, she's one of the most disciplined ENs and she has incredibly strong ethics
Some people come out stronger out of the experience and she's one of them

>> No.61365617

>>61365208
Calling it abuse is a bit too much. Also, they changed and learned and now recognise her achievements and are proud of her.

>> No.61365651

>>61361522
>none of the replies recognize this pasta
this board really is the newfag board

>> No.61365664

>>61365252
I'm glad asian were raised as machines so they can grow up to be perfect tools to their white/jewish bosses. makes things easier for us.

>> No.61365685

>>61364993
Ina is a turbo weeb like IRyS and Bae. She doesn't know any western media at all. Kronii was allowed a lot of internet access, not sure why. Maybe, because her family had to move to a different province every two months, it just kind of made sense.

>> No.61365692

>>61365617
Is that really something to be admired when they only budged a bit after she waved all her money in their face after the fact though

>> No.61365695

>>61365052
NTA

In the sense that most girls raised by tiger parents would not have dared considering vtubing and emotionbaiting as a serious career choice.

Streamgirls have some major daddy issues or lack-of-daddy issues. We all know it, a large demographic of vtuber women don't have a proper father figure in their lives.

Yes Bae is an outlier, but under very different metrics anon.

>> No.61365699

>>61362522
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.61365749

>>61360625
Did you make up the last 2?

>> No.61365790

>>61365695
She's an outlier in the sense she studied more than other Asians and did more extracurricular than other Asians and was more isolated.

>> No.61365820

>>61361904
>honor can't be bought and all vtubers lose their honor when they become one
Bae told viewers in her debut that she was a Holostars fans and is the only HoloEN talent that was that direct. If anything she has been too honest.

>> No.61365834

>>61365749
The second last point is exaggerated, it's not that she's not allowed to take regular medicine, it's more that she is forced to take their voodoo concoctions
The last point is a lie, she was put in the shed because her dad didn't want her to move out into a streaming place

>> No.61365885

>>61365412
>Parents
>Mistakes and imperfect parenting
>Child comes to term with that and loves her parents despite that
>Let us debate if this is gaslighting or Stockholm Syndrome

True westoid moment.
t. westerner

>> No.61365910

>>61365820
This. She doesn't even try to hide the fact that she's Chinese now

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>>61365749
They're moreso exaggerated
She did get moved out to a granny flat in the backyard because she was too loud with her vutbing shit
Her dad is a hardcore TCM shill and insists she take his herbal remedies and medical advice over going to the doctor

>> No.61366010

>>61365515
But, you see, Japanese geography is very terrible. They lie on the 'ring of fire', is 70% mountains (ergo undevelopable) and majorly lack natural resources.
Yet, this very terribleness may be what causes their passion to be great. The Wille to overcome.
So why can no other Asian accomplish this?
This is what I must know.

'Not curiosity, not vanity, not the consideration of expediency, not duty and conscientiousness, but an unquenchable, unhappy thirst that brooks no compromise leads us to truth'.
- Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

>> No.61366034

>>61361266
Although I'm replying to bait, you immitated the weird trad first/second gen trad East Asian family pretty well. Reminds me of a Korean college friend I knew.
>Have Tiger parents
>expect you to become doctor or engineer
>decide to do IT with specialization in System Security instead
>almost get disowned and not allowed to visit home for 2 years
>7 years later makes 6 figure salary at major company specialized in making software and doing security for banks and online gambling companies
>His dad is still salty towards him because didn't live up to his expectations or didn't want to live his life the way he did
Baelz probably makes more money than her entire family. What the fuck does her parents have to be ashamed about!?

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>her dad didn't want her custody, if anything he said he'd kick her in an orphanage if her mom left her to him.
>her dad kicked her and her mom out of the house. Mom asked her friend for a shelter and the mother and daughter stayed her apartment for a while. The house cat recognized them as pet peers, in the position lower than himself.
>her single mom banned her from watching anime and playing videogames, especially anything she thought to be lewd. She hadn't read porn until she became almost 20yo.
Why are Asian parents like this?

>> No.61366083

>>61365790
>She's an outlier in the sense she studied more than other Asians and did more extracurricular than other Asians and was more isolated.

Most of that is typical 2nd gen asian growing pains. I'm not picking a fight, but are you asian? Because I am and in my circle of 2nd gen asians, that was the norm.

>> No.61366150

>>61365534
In a sense, this is somewhat of hindsight, but eventually they ended up supporting her decision to pursue her own path, so of course she still loves them.
However, listening to her telling the story of that past, it was real actual trauma and you can hear it in her voice as she got a little whimpering bringing it up again. At least her fans can always find comfort in knowing she's going to live out her dream for years to come with 100% support from her parents backing her.
Okay maybe 85% PapaRat still doesn't want to let his little daughter move to a different country. He knows it's going to be real lonely when AneRat eventually gets married and Bae is still living the Nips life.

>> No.61366271

>>61365910
She clearly still dances around it as much as she can but she knows the secret is out

>> No.61366279

>>61365685
She knows as much as the white weaboos girls. Come on, nobody is even remotely close to Bae's level.

>> No.61366320

>>61366150
That sums it up pretty well actually. Maybe she forgave them after they started supporting her and they themselves realized that they were being too harsh on her so they let her follow her dreams

>> No.61366336

>>61365885
>Parents
>Mistakes and imperfect parenting
Do you think her parents actually think they did wrong? No, if anything, they think their improper parenting was proper, because their daughter is now rich.

>t. westerner
Are you saying you are or I am? I'm Asian, ergo, I actually understand the Asian brain, despite my indignation of it.
If you are a Westerner, then you are foriegn to the way the savage (poorfag) brain works.
None of this love and coming to terms with and understanding mistakes is what is going on.
Nobody in the situation has understood. They've merely glossed over; swept it under the rug. It's not gone; it's not resolved.

>> No.61366355

>>61363832
>Meanwhile anitubers moving to jp

>> No.61366443

>>61364791
>>61364946
Bae is a zoomer and everyone else is a millenial. It's that simple.

>> No.61366552

>>61361266
>implying her own father doesn't jack off to mating press porn of her

>> No.61366568

>>61366083
I'm not asian. Is popular culture ignorance also the norm? Explain that aspect of Bae to me. Is it just a bit like I thought before her explanation?
Are Kronii, Ina, Selen, etc. outliers?

>> No.61366607

>>61366320
>and they themselves realized that they were being too harsh on her so they let her follow her dreams
lol.
You're not Asian, are you?

If this is the type of Asian that prefers chink medicine over Western doctors, it's very likely not the case.

Let me explain the savage (poorfag) brain:

'while nowadays travelers habitually observe how prone the savage is to forgetfulness, how his mind, after the least exertion of memory, begins to wander and lose itself until finally he utters falsehood and nonsense from sheer exhaustion. Yet, in dreams, we all resemble this savage. Inadequacy of distinction and error of comparison are the basis of the preposterous things we do and say in dreams, so that when we clearly recall a dream we are startled that so much idiocy lurks within us'.
'why does the first plausible hypothesis of the cause of a sensation gain credit in the dreaming state? (For in a dream we look upon that dream as reality, that is, we accept our hypotheses as fully established). I have no doubt that as men argue in their dreams to-day, mankind argued, even in their waking moments, for thousands of years: the first causa, that occurred to the mind with reference to anything that stood in need of explanation, was accepted as the true explanation and served as such. (Savages show the same tendency in operation, as the reports of travelers agree). In the dream this atavistic relic of humanity manifests its existence within us, for it is the foundation upon which the higher rational faculty developed itself and still develops itself in every individual'.
- Menschliches, Allzumenschliches

Asians (aside from the Japanese) ARE these very savages! This is how their minds function.

>> No.61366740

>>61366040
What the hell, is this real?

>> No.61366841

>>61366336
As a parent myself, I don't expect that I'll come to terms with everything my child expects of me. I expect to hit a lot of mistakes along the way, and make more mistakes trying to correct it. I hope to communicate enough to where my child will eventually forgive me for my mistakes and moments of ignorance, or overcorrecting behavior, not harbor grudge against me as a gaslighting parent.

Thus Anonchama, its not that so cut and dry as "my mom called my sister fat, is this stockholm or gasligthing?". That's not to say that there aren't scars as a result, but to dilute that situation down to such an easy accusation is a huge disservice to the adults that are closest to us, as well as the person who harbors the resentment of "my mom is a gaslighter cuz she called my sister fat."

>t. westerner
I am a 2nd gen Asian living in a western country. So I'm referring to myself but I'm in both worlds.

>> No.61366893

>>61366443
Are there actually any gen X Vtubers out there? Those would be the true oldhags.

>> No.61367070

>>61366568
I wouldn't call it the norm, but I'd wager that there's a higher than average occurence of pop culture ignorance in specifically 2nd generation asians.

>> No.61367185

>>61361266
>that they choose
>be always there for them
>Buy your kid stuff that you don't understand, it's their hobby and they should be happy
You know those 3 are fucking bullshit.
Also if you think that treating your kid like a fucking robot is good parenting you are retarded

>> No.61367346

>>61366841
My mother called her fat her ENTIRE childhood, mate, not just once.
She had over TEN YEARS to realise her mistake. She did not; she HAS NOT.

>is a huge disservice to the adults that are closest to us
Ah, the classic 'but they're family', a classic of the Asians.
I'm sorry, but I do not hold such sentimental values.
If Mao Zedong's son killed his father, I would praise him to high heaven. Yet, in Asia, this would be seen as disgraceful, despite the benefit to society it would achieve.

'Ethic as Man's Self-Analysis'
'The mother gives her child what she deprives herself of—sleep, the best nourishment and, in certain circumstances, her health, her self.—But are all these acts unegoistic? Are these moral deeds miracles because they are, in Schopenhauer's phrase "impossible and yet accomplished"? Is it not evident that in all four cases man loves one part of himself, (a thought, a longing, an experience) more than he loves another part of himself? that he thus analyses his being and sacrifices one part of it to another part? Is this essentially different from the behavior of the obstinate man who says "I would rather be shot than go a step out of my way for this fellow"?—Preference for something (wish, impulse, longing) is present in all four instances: to yield to it, with all its consequences, is not "unegoistic."—In the domain of the ethical man conducts himself not as individuum but as dividuum'.
- Menschliches, Allzumenschliches

>> No.61367348

https://youtu.be/4X73nV-pr8U?t=2768
>Be a child
>Parents take her to relative's home
>Send her to play at the kiddy table with the other kids
>The other kids are playing games on their phone or consoles
>She really wants to play games too
>She has no choice but to sit in the corner and silently watch
>Can't ask mom for a game console because she would get slapped
>Can't ask the other kids to share the games with her because it's somehow "bad manners" and she would get slapped
>Grit her teeth and accept reality, oh wait there's her Piano diploma exam tomorrow? the one that gives her anxiety and nightmares? gotta go home and prepare for that
CHILD BAE DIDN'T DESERVE THIS

>> No.61367420

>>61366443
Kronii is in the oldest zoomer age bracket, she isn't the only one.

>> No.61367496

>>61366893
Botan, maybe.

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>>61361266
The amount of seethe this completely correct post is causing is insane, imagine being poster like this >>61361598 >>61361683 >>61362481 >>61365229 >>61366034
who think attacking bae's father is somehow protecting bae

She's not a victim of abuse you retards, you aren't white knighting anything, you're projecting your own failures to meet your parents expectations onto an anime girl and are attacking your parents by proxy

You guys are worse than drug addicts for kids, even if they are parasitic at least they try to be a part of their families, you guys just leech off your families for 21-25 years, become a failure and then blame your parents for being born while you do nothing but give up on your life and gaslight others into giving up on theirs while you spend what little income you have on bullshit that actively caused you to remain a manchild

>> No.61367553

>>61367348
>it's somehow "bad manners"
That was just an excuse.
Asians think video games are addictive (like drugs) and said addiction will take them away from study.

If you bore your child to death, then they'll study to kill boredom. That is how Asians' raise their children.

>> No.61367577

>>61367348
I can save her

>> No.61367651

>>61367521
>You guys are just projecting
>Proceeds to vomit out the most obvious projection in this thread
Interesting angle

>> No.61367677

>>61367521
This
Her parents raised a very good, capable and morally strong girl and they are proud of how she's currently doing, at the end of the day they chose to support her dreams

>> No.61367693

>>61367521
>it's not abuse
By white people standards, it is.

Entertainment is EXPECTED to be given to a child, by my government. Like, part of the 'mandatory' things like food and shelter.
They deprived her of it.

>> No.61367740

>>61367651
Anon you are a manchild attacking a talents father because he wanted a good future for his daughter
You are extremely pathetic and bae herself would ban you from the chat for this shit

>> No.61367768

>>61367677
>le ends justify le means, we were right all along because you ended up making money anyway
Despicable behavior

>> No.61367811

>>61367693
>By white people standards, it is.
Explain amish people, mormons

>> No.61367834

>>61367740
t. seething Asian

If Chinese parenting is so great, why is China a shithole?
Checkmate Asians.

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>>61367811
Americans ain't white.

>> No.61367886

>>61367768
If you want to know why your social circle is so small and your status in the world is so insignificant, it's this
You have such an ass backwards view of reality that your entire world view is centered around coping with your own failure

>> No.61367901

>>61367811
>But what about these weird outliers that nobody thinks about?

>> No.61367943

>>61367878
Those 2 groups are exclusively white, try again, what's your next excuse
>>61367834
I'm eastern european

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>>61361522
>>61361266

>> No.61367970

>>61367886
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

>You attacked your opponent's character or personal traits in an attempt to undermine their argument.

>> No.61367999

>>61367677
That's also on Bae that she didn't break and came out of it the way she did, I know several asians who loathe their parents for putting them through the ringer like that. I really respect her for this even if she lacks knowledge of media culture. I have no doubt that it was entirely her own efforts to prove her parents wrong and convince them to let her follow her dreams. She's kind of like Naruto or a shounen protagonist in a sense

>> No.61368011

>>61367521
you stupid fucking slave.

>> No.61368039

>>61367943
>eastern european
So the same type of poorfag as Asians (baring the Japanese).
Yeah. All my statements stand as they are.

>> No.61368051

>>61367348
But she got to watch anime and even talked about how she used to sing Inuyasha songs in the car with MamaRat. She wasn't completely cut off from everything.
Didn't she also talk about reading fanfiction? The thought that this cute rat might have been getting hot and heavy over the same fanfiction that got me hot and heavy makes me feel hot and heavy.

>> No.61368074

>>61367901
These outliers are huge populations in their respective states, inventing that something is child abuse because some court in toronto determined it is makes you look like a retard

>> No.61368119

>>61367999
THE issue is her parents WON'T think they did anything wrong.
You're really not comprehending this part.

>> No.61368148

>>61367348
Why her relatives had game? They are Asian too.

>> No.61368149

>>61367970
You deserve to have your character attacked for attacked bae's father you disrespectful little shit

>> No.61368152

>>61368051
I think that was later when she was already in her teens when her parents starting getting less harsh on her. She also didn't just read fanfiction, she straight up wrote some of them, she used to write fanfics of alternative endings for Naruto where Sasuke treats Sakura right and they end up together, shit like that

>> No.61368206

>>61367346
Beyond the shitposting I'll do my best to answer honestly.

>10 years
Not a fan of that parenting though to be honest.

>is a huge disservice to the adults that are closest to us
"As well as the person who harbors the resentment"

Have you heard the quote "unforgiveness is like drinking poison and waiting for the other person to die"? It sounds like your sister understands that for the piece of shit your mom was for calling her fat for 10 years, she understands that there's probably 17000 other things she did right.

Are you a parent anon? You're very quick to draw quotes from people in history, but unless you're placed in the position of a parent, all that knowledge is just theoretical/trivial knowledge you can just nod your head to.

Anyway, I really do hope you can forgive your mom for calling your sister fat for 10 years.

>> No.61368212

>>61367521
There are a LOT of resented 2nd gen Asians in /vt/

>> No.61368220

>>61368074
What is even your point?
Amish and Morman life isn't known for being fun, you dolt.
You do it, if it's so great. Stop using the internet, for a start.

>> No.61368235

>>61360625
No wonder she’s moving to Japan. To escape her psychopath parents.

>> No.61368241

>>61368039
This line of argument is bad and you should drop it, it has constant contradictions and it just makes you desperate to prove racial causation

>> No.61368248

>>61366320
Uhhh ignore whatever that was, he's off the deep end >>61366607
>she forgave them after they started supporting her and they themselves realized that they were being too harsh on her
People don't just come to terms to that kind of things on their own, Bae did more than a lot of convincing to let them know that the path they laid out was not for her to tread upon, and they did the right thing by letting her decide where she'd go on from there herself. That did not mean that they had some kind of epiphany like they absolutely left her with some long lasting trauma and they had to make it up somehow, they just chose to put their trust on her to pursue her own goal, and here we are now.
As for Bae, first if you want to forgive someone you must think they're guilty of something first, and Bae didn't put the blame on them, if anything she put it entirely on herself. Whether you think that's the right mind set or not, it's up to you.

>> No.61368256

>>61368119
If they didn't think they did anything wrong, they wouldn't be supporting her dreams right now
They probably realized their actions which is why she's here in Hololive and enjoying her dream

>> No.61368294

>>61368241
>it has constant contradictions
Name them.

>it just makes you desperate to prove racial causation
Cultural causation. Yes. I stand by it.

>> No.61368368 [DELETED] 

>>61363538
Reps. There multiple photos of her at raves. Also newfag.

>> No.61368371

>>61368256
>they wouldn't be supporting her dreams right now
They would because it makes her a lot of money.

>They probably realized their actions which is why she's here in Hololive and enjoying her dream
No, they see she's making a lot of money. Full stop.

>> No.61368372

>>61365496
>If you visited some of the threads where people brought up the topic of Asian Tiger Parents forcing their children to "work towards their future" 14 hours a day, everyday, for over 14 years. You can still find actual posts from possibly actual people defending that kind of parenting.
Hilarious how this instantly got proven correct given the state of this thread

>> No.61368374

>>61368248
Oh yeah I forgot about how Bae never really blamed them for anything, she still thinks it was all for her own good, I guess she's correct in some ways but it wasn't very ethical

>> No.61368387

>>61368256
Not necessarily. It could also be resignation

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>>61368248
>he's off the deep end
'The force of mind is only as great as its expression; its depth only as deep as its power to expand and lose itself'.
- Phänomenologie des Geistes

>> No.61368488

>>61368051
The anime she watched was whatever she could get from her older sister (who had a higher degree of freedom from being more successful and older) until she too was old enough and no longer committed to the full course of extracurricular activities to pursue her own series to watch as well

>> No.61368507

>>61368371
>>61368387
What ACTUALLY happened
>The older one made it, let's let the little one carve her fun path and let us see where whether this little fish will end up a dragon or a toad

>> No.61368604

>>61368152
>wrote alt endings of sasusaku
She's so precious

>> No.61368606

>>61368220
>Amish and Morman life isn't known for being fun
That's your opinion, your concept of fun is flawed
How about a healthy life with many friends, a loving wife and many children that look to you for inspiration and learning?

There's a reason why amish people have a ritual of sending the kids out to see the world around them so they have the chance to choose what life they value more.
Amish society continues to live on because it's a simple but happy life where you aren't predated on by corporations, politics, culture wars, gambling, criminality etc

Your concept of fun has always been a dopamine addiction that was crafted by people to take advantage of you for money
I'm not some amish potato farmer obviously, but discounting that lifestyle for it's long lasting lessons on healthy, meaningful life is ridiculous

>> No.61368626

>>61368507
Proof: my arse.

>> No.61368687

>>61361363
Modern chiropractic was invented by a fucking canadian.

>> No.61368730

>>61368606
They continue to live on because outside is America.
Look to why no other Anglo country has that sort of thing. Because other Anglo countries aren't as shit as America.

>> No.61368740

>the hour long rant about her piano recital
>https://www.youtube.com/live/4X73nV-pr8U?si=yOUjFkUbjLz_FOSa
tf is wrong with asian parents and piano?

>> No.61368765

>>61367521
cool projection retard, shouldnt you be installing netting around your workplace or something?

>> No.61368914

>>61368740
Asian parents always force kids to do piano and violin because those are seen as the "high class rich person" activities.
None of this is about doing what's best for your kids, it's about face and presenting the idea you're a rich powerful successful family

>> No.61368937

>>61368606
Me again, but your are saying that the Asian parenting is good.
Why is China, full of Chinese parenting, like Bae's, utter shit, that they LEFT China?
China is run by Chinese, who grew up on Chinese parenting. Yet is shit. Gee.

>> No.61368968

>>61368149
NTA
Justified Ad Hominem.
Hilarious response.
Well done.

>> No.61369122

>>61368740
>tf is wrong with asian parents and piano?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ0ChGfwStE&pp=ygUXc3RldmVuIGhlIHBpYW5vIGxlc3NvbnM%3D

>>61368914
He's not wrong.

Though I was forced to play piano, since kindergarten, I absolutely am grateful because I got my 10000 hours done before high school was over.

>> No.61369282

>>61368368
I have seen all of her pics and there is not even a single picture of her at a rave, there are instead a couple of pictures of the same instance of her at this extremely large concert in broad daylight with a group of friends, I even did research on the stadium venue and event date to confirm it.
If you are going to be an ebin doxfag, do proper research next time

>> No.61369327

>>61368740
This is horrible, why the FUCK are Asian parents like this. You can literally hear the PTSD in her voice

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>>61368206
>but unless you're placed in the position of a parent, all that knowledge is just theoretical/trivial knowledge you can just nod your head to.
I don't have Aphantasia like a retard; I can imagine it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia
>Aphantasia is the inability to create mental imagery.

'Intellect and Ethic'.
'One must have a good memory to be able to keep the promises one makes. One must have a strong imagination in order to feel sympathy. So closely is ethics connected with intellectual capacity'.
- Menschliches, Allzumenschliches

>> No.61369372

>>61360625
Baelz was raised by her parents from birth to be two things
1- an idol
2- my wife

>> No.61369397

>>61368740
WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT OF THESE LESSONS
SOMEONE EXPLAIN
WHY THE FUCKING PIANO SPECIFICALLY

>> No.61369487

>>61360625
based parents, perfect for a saviorfag like me

>> No.61369491

>>61369327
The worst part is that she failed 3 times anyways because she got the strictest cunt of a judge in town and it gave her massive lifelong anxiety and self esteem issues

>> No.61369599

>>61360625
This is just how asians are raised, the trauma makes them proper asians.
https://youtu.be/cQpq56FmIN4

>> No.61369658

>>61369397
Piano and violin.
>>61368914
Explains it.

They might have also read somewhere that learning an instrument makes you smarter.

>> No.61369777

>>61369372
I made this post

>> No.61369847

>>61368914
So they can become musicians?

>> No.61369896

>>61369372
In case anyone is confused, this is, in fact, my post

>> No.61369902

>>61369369
Intellect is no substitute for experience anon.

>> No.61369910

>>61368914
Maybe so they can learn to appreciate classical music and don't look like rubes at the opera.

>> No.61369928

>>61369847
No I think it's literally just a display of status and prestegiousness

>> No.61369966

>>61369847
>So they can become musicians?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ0ChGfwStE&pp=ygUXc3RldmVuIGhlIHBpYW5vIGxlc3NvbnM%3D

>> No.61369994

>>61369397
>>61368740
I think >>61368914 got a point in
I'm just going to list some possible factors
>Counts as Extra Curriculum for College Application
>They know other parents who have kids that play the piano and brag about it
>All the bullshits associated with sellf discipline and helping your brain memorize things better that they read on a tabloid
>The chance their kid has some hidden talent for Piano that they can take great pride in
>The desire to live vicariously through their kids because they didn't have the chance to learn the piano when they were young
>They think Piano is a good hobby for their kids to have when they eventually grow older
>And once they got convinced by 1 or more of the above, they wouldn't let the kid give up on something they have invested time and money in

>> No.61370192

This entire thread could be summed up by the entirety of Steven He's youtube channel.

>> No.61370247

>>61369902
If you have Aphantasia, which I don't.
You probably do, and can't imagine an intellect any greater than yours.
What a horrid existence that must be like, I can imagine.

'My conscience and yours are no longer the same conscience'.
- Friedrich Nietzsche

>> No.61370266

>>61368730
There are amish populations outside of america, they are swiss-german diaspora
https://www.mountainviewmennonite.org/who-are-mennonites
>>61368937
I am not saying that any specific parenting is good or bad, I'm saying that shitting on bae's father is disrespectful
Parenting is parenting, everyone does it differently, some cultures say physical punishment is abuse, some cultures say allowing your kids to gender transition at before puberty is abuse
This whole kind of conversation started from fans of bae using her father as a way to vent about their own life and parents and it's really disrespectful to bae to use her father for your own therapy

>> No.61370357

>>61368968
Yes, attacking someones parents is taboo is most cultures anon

>> No.61370394

>Her genmates are already going on breaks
>Bae is sick
>Absolutely REFUSES to take a break and continues to stream and truck on because she doesn't want her fans to be let down
>Fans have to beg her to take a day off
Say what you want but her parents drilled into her the ethics that most zoomers lack

>> No.61370403

>Asians
>Raised differently as kids
"That's some abuse right there"
>Becomes on average more successful
"R-r-raised to be a wageslave cucks amirite?"
>Get hired to the top vtuber agency in the world
"B-but that doesn't count"

>> No.61370414

>>61369994
Forgot to add: It could help them become creative or artistic

>> No.61370468

>>61370266
>I'm saying that shitting on bae's father is disrespectful
I do not give a fuck if it is.

'It is a matter of perfect indifference where a thing originated; the only question is: "Is it true in and for itself?"'
- Vorlesungen über die Philosophie der Weltgeschichte

>> No.61370473

>>61370357
Oh no I agree with this use of ad hominem. I'm absolutely congratulating you.

>> No.61370486

>>61370394
She's projecting her parents onto her fans.... no wonder she had an anxiety breakdown before her 3D

>> No.61370521

>>61370394
How does she feel about losing in numbers to lazier, less driven people?

>> No.61370575

>>61370403
>1 person means everybody can do it
Truly the mind of a poorfag.

>> No.61370592

>>61363479
Basically this. Her sister likely has connections with multiple wealthy people who actually know how to invest in money wisely. Without help Bae will likely make poor financial decisions and find herself poor again if she doesn't ask her sister for help.

>> No.61370622

>>61370521
She is in fact, completely happy
She has stated that she tries to only compete with the her of yesterday because she doesn't believe in rivalries

>> No.61370736

>>61362300
Nonsense. arabs and chinks only give lip service to honor; in reality they have none at all, and will lie and cheat at every opportunity to get their hands on the tiniest scraps.

>> No.61370843

>>61370736
True, but at the end of the day shame contains Asians, so they are alright

>> No.61370870

>>61370521
She's spoken before about how she's well aware of her general recline (actual verbage that she used) and her solution is to just work even harder to make up for it. It's part of the reason why she won't even let herself take a day off when she's literally dying and has mental breakdowns over possibly disappointing her fans

>> No.61370917

>>61370266
>I am not saying that any specific parenting is good or bad, I'm saying that shitting on bae's father is disrespectful
So completely emotion over logic:

'La Rochefoucauld, in the most notable part of his self portraiture (first printed 1658) reaches the vital spot of truth when he warns all those endowed with reason to be on their guard against compassion, when he advises that this sentiment be left to men of the masses who stand in need of the promptings of the emotions (since they are not guided by reason) to induce them to give aid to the suffering and to be of service in misfortune'
'for the unfortunate are rendered so dull that the manifestation of sympathy affords them the greatest happiness in the world'.
- Menschliches, Allzumenschliches

>> No.61370925

>>61370468
Parenting is not something set into the fucking 10 commandments, it's sold by every $1 rag at the grocery register, and all of it is contradictory
This whole armchair truth debate is a ridiculous concept in itself

>> No.61370938

>>61370870
Holy shit. Sadge, almost makes me want to support her. But the ID girls need me more.

>> No.61370955

>>61363374
that would explain her childlike curiosity with PPs

>> No.61370990

>>61370917
Calm down nietzsche, just stop attacking the anime girls father and it'll all be okay

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>>61370925
>Parenting is not something set into the fucking 10 commandments
Wrong.

'The Water Fall:'
'At the sight of a water fall we may opine that in the countless curves, spirations and dashes of the waves we behold freedom of the will and of the impulses. But everything is compulsory, everything can be mathematically calculated. Thus it is, too, with human acts. We would be able to calculate in advance every single action if we were all knowing, as well as every advance in knowledge, every delusion, every bad deed. The acting individual himself is held fast in the illusion of volition. If, on a sudden, the entire movement of the world stopped short, and an all knowing and reasoning intelligence were there to take advantage of this pause, he could foretell the future of every being to the remotest ages and indicate the path that would be taken in the world's further course. The deception of the acting individual as regards himself, the assumption of the freedom of the will, is a part of this computable mechanism'.
- Menschliches, Allzumenschliches

>> No.61371245

>>61364323
The above did apply to her GF Miori, so not outside the realm of expectation. That said, she was never cut out for school, only raves (and weebing out over seiyuus in JP).

>> No.61371286

>>61370917
Lol is quoting Nietzche the new "checkmate atheists" fedora tipping meme?

>> No.61371309

>>61371210
What in the seven hells am I reading

>> No.61371400

>>61364496
You'd be surprised, it's a lot more common than expected if you actually get to know Chinese families. Most parents will somewhat blindly support what their kids do and probably don't fully understand the context of dance/rave culture.
Entire college Asian dance group at my school were filled with sheltered traditional conservative Asians who were now free to invest in hoop earrings and chokers. Obviously some went full hookup tinderella, but there were actual femcels who also became a part of that culture and just found it to be cool (compared to being a nerdy shutin).

>> No.61371417

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Xiuquan

>get a bad SAT score
>start one of the bloodiest wars in human history

>> No.61371477

>>61371417
>Heavenly king of great peace
>Kills millions

>> No.61371547
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61371547

>>61371309
>he can't read

>> No.61371717

>>61371245
>>61371400
That's cool and all but see
>>61369282

>> No.61371737

>>61371210
I don't fucking get it
I have read this 10 times and I still don't get it

>> No.61371757

>>61371210
Did you just decide to gloss over the story of Abraham?

>> No.61371790

>>61371210
FUCKING KINOOOOOO
BRAVO NIETZSCHE

>> No.61371853

>>61360625
Because she's loud, annoying and doesn't apply herself.

>> No.61371855
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>>61367693
>They deprived her of it.
Bae didn't grow up in a fucking vault. She still watched anime, she still played video games, she still had hobbies.The reason why she doesn't know a lot of pop culture things has more to do with her being an aussie zoomer than her having tiger parents.

>> No.61371866

Why did we go from discussing Tiger parents to relating them to Nietczhe

>> No.61371946

>>61371855
Anon, most of the anime besides Inuyasha that she watched were in her late teens, she only really played a couple of flash and mobile games here and there
As some other anon's have said, her sister provided the cultural osmosis that was her gateway into Anime

>> No.61371997

>>61369994
Pretty accurate overall. There's an Asian (especially Chinese) obsession with knowing "three talents": music, art, and sports, in addition to academics. Any middle class or above family will force kids into classes starting at the age of 4-6 to try and "discover" their talent: piano/violin, sketching/painting, or some kind of "classy" sport like tennis/golf/water polo/sailing etc tend to be most common these days. Add on top of that cram school lessons (like Kumon etc) to get ahead of classmates, and you get the typical Asian experience. For instance, I didn't get my own PC until high school, was on flipphone until college, and had at most an hour a day for weeb hobbies with most time instead going to science/math competitions.
Overall you should think of most parents treating their kids like a prize racehorse or competitive dog show contestant. The whole point is to prove how "superior" your kids are compared to all the other Asian parents that are your frenemies/rivals. If your kid is rank 1 in class, you beat their kid who is middle of the pack. If their kid gets into UC Berkeley, your kid better get into Harvard/Stanford. At it's core, parents are well intentioned in wanting kids to succeed and get rich, but there is definitely an underlying motive of prestige/pride and having future financial support from that success.
Failure is not tolerated, and at its most extreme, parents can easily get emotionally/verbally/sometimes physically abusive for not succeeding/living up to their expectations. Not uncommon for kids in sports to get yelled at/beat/neglected for losing a competition match, and there were definitely cases of growth hormone/steroid usage to pump their kids up in early teens to try and get sports scholarships.
Source: Grew up Asian in the Bay Area

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>>61362239
from another anon.
https://youtu.be/kK4JPwHmCBw?t=7092

>> No.61372062

>>61360625
I think most Asian parents (to be precise, chinese) don't call their kids with their name.

>> No.61372120

>>61369847
unless they happen to show prodigious skill at a very young age, absolutely not, you have a choice of a few jobs that are seen as prestigious and that it. Nota that it doesnt matter if the job is actually good, it might be hell on earth where you get paid shit and treated worse but as long as other people think it's prestigious, that's all that matters.

To power level a bit, I own a large company in a creative field, a lot of the people who work for me were disowned by their family for going into a field seen as frivolous nonsense by older people and even those who arent have to listen to "Oh your brother is a lawyer/doctor" spiel even when they make 5x as much and are happier and have a better life, their parents are still bitter at them about it

>> No.61372126

Forgive me for saying this but why do I get the feeling that Bae might've committed suicide if Hololive didn't save her

>> No.61372128

>>61360625
That's just typical Asian childhood.

>> No.61372181

>>61372126
She has talked about being severely depressed before catching her big break with hololive before but I don't know about going that far with it

>> No.61372213

>>61371997
I'm sorry for you anon, this thread has single handedly made me less racist against asians, the kids specifically

>> No.61372218 [DELETED] 

>>61371717
>>61372006
Anon...there's more than that one daylight concert photo, and one is in a dim rave/nightclub area. Regardless, just one look at her hoe fashion choices, ABG aesthetic, and normie dance club friends and you know she's definitely part of that less than wholesome subculture. Doesn't mean she lives up to every stereotype, but just being associated with that group is quite telling in itself (i.e. most weebs here wouldn't go anywhere near that demographic).

>> No.61372254

>>61372218
prove it

>> No.61372269

>>61372120
What does your company do?

>> No.61372319

>>61361266
>be a victim of racism and abuse, but what ever your kids will get the fruits of your hard labor
This never happened to Asians past 1970 stop projecting.

>> No.61372326
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61372326

If at first you don't succeed, blame your parents.

>> No.61372328

>>61372218
How does that fit with the tiger parents? I'm feeling strong dissonance here.

>> No.61372330

>>61372062
Is it actually that common of a practice?

>> No.61372329

>>61371477
>Chinese history 101

>> No.61372355

>>61372218
That's the closing ceremony you fucking mong, the location is the same

>> No.61372406

Imagine calling your children younger daughter or older daughter

>> No.61372437

>>61372319
This.
>>61372120
Doctors actually help people and make the world a better place. Entertainers are one step above whores. They have been historically shunned. Ancient Romans despised them .

>> No.61372457

>>61372326
That's the sad part... she never blamed her parents even once, she always thought it was for her own good they did this

>> No.61372524

>>61372457
It was? You can't measure everyone by lazy crackers standards

>> No.61372557

>>61372406
Do you really think Genghis Kahn referred to his 1000's of kids by name?

>> No.61372581

>>61372437
>Doctors actually help people and make the world a better place
More people living is better?

>> No.61372582

>>61372524
It kind of was, think about how disciplined she is. Sure she lacked culture but that's nothing she can't gain with time and she's certainly making efforts to branch out and play games outside her comfort zone

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61372597

>>61372406
well.... we call out father dad and mom could be something similar?
if you think about it it might not be as bad, is like saying my younger child, my older child.

>> No.61372599

>>61368914
>>61372120
For the few exceptional talents, they can become actual Carnegie Hall musicians/professional athletes and the like, but generally the holy grail target is solely to get a college scholarship/enter an Ivy League. The only socially acceptable careers are engineering, doctor, lawyer, and finance/business as the new one. Anything less is considered a failure.

>>61372328
Anon, I've seen super sheltered Asian kids at even super tryhard universities end up going full degenerate once they have a bit of freedom. There is surprisingly a lot of interest in hiphop culture (like aforementioned hoop earrings/chokers/ghetto aesthetic) which transforms some into the ABG lifestyle (comparable to burgerland gyaru). Some of these kids were the super traditional type growing up (piano, traditional folk art/dance, mathlete/science olympiad types), but once they taste freedom, a couple ended up as the biggest art hoes on campus via early tinder. Of course, not all of them went that hard, but it's surprising to see even the more modest/conservative ones wearing backwards baseball caps with hoodie/ripped jeans and breakdancing.

>> No.61372609

>>61371946
>most of the anime besides Inuyasha that she watched were in her late teens
And? Most of the stuff people complain about Bae not knowing is stuff she wouldn't have seen anyways on account of her age. She hasn't seen Yu-Gi-Oh or Tony Hawk or a PS1? Because she was a toddler at best when those came out.

>her sister provided the cultural osmosis that was her gateway into Anime
And if her sister saw all that stuff, that means her parents didn't have Bae chained to a desk forced to study for 40 hours a day.

>> No.61372643

>>61361150
bait or actual psychopath
call it

>> No.61372660

>>61372524
t. country is worse than those lazy cracker countries

>> No.61372665

>>61372437
>Doctors actually help people and make the world a better place
lol stupid zhang, doctors are nothing more than whores for big pharma, the only reason they havent been replaced by AI is because it isnt as good at shilling bullshit

>> No.61372733

>>61372457
That's the sad part, I wasn't referring to rrat oshi, I was referring to threadposters who weren't properly disciplined and driven.

>> No.61372744

>>61372599
But she has never left home. How could she get that kind of freedom?

Also, tell me some stories about sheltered Asian chicks going whore.

>> No.61372762

>>61372319
t. never looked at a college admissions board

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>>61372609
Inuyasha is AS OLD AS yugioh, you utter complete idiot

>> No.61372773

>>61372609
Her sister is much older than her, she just shared the things she owned with Bae because rat parents didn't really buy her much besides plushies

>> No.61372815

>>61372665
Artis are being replaced though. Lmao, seems medicine is much harder

>> No.61372823

>>61372744
Your oshi
By me

>> No.61372841

>>61372773
She never shared fifi
I will never forget fifi

>> No.61372869

>>61372406
It's more common than expected, and just a Chinese/Asian thing. Plenty of Asian moms will refer to their husband as "dad" and vice versa when talking in the third person. It's like saying "(Your) dad needs something" with the (Your) omitted, except they also do that in said person's presence. Similarly, plenty of parents use some kind of pet name for their kids (maomao, ruirui, yuanyuan, etc), so its maybe 50/50 on whether actual name is used.

>> No.61372872

>>61372841
QRD?

>> No.61372873

>>61372660
White countries succeeded by opressing and robbing others, including Asians. To this day they rob Asian countries of their brightest minds.

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61372881

mfw this board is full of actual psychos who are completely incapable of empathy and unironically only see the talents as dolls for their entertainment

>> No.61372912

>>61372762
For the benefit of whom? Also the same group of people who still shit on Asians.

>> No.61372919

>>61372330
Yes, this is common in Cantonese speaking families. If you have siblings, they will call you something like big sis/little sis. Otherwise, they usually will give you a nickname and call you that.

>> No.61372927

>>61372881
First day?

>> No.61372937

>>61372769
Because her much older sister was the one who showed it to her you dumbfuck. You think the 3 year old rrat was watching Inuyasha on Adult Swim at 1 AM?

>> No.61372948

>>61372599
Wow anon you sure have seen a lot, like A LOT a lot.
Everyone here can state their thoughts on the discussion, but you anon are the only one who has some first hand experience on the matter, I'm rather impressed.
Please do tell us more about your experience with them, with an observation like that you must have much more story to tell. We're all ears here, or rather eyes.

>> No.61372968

>>61372927
No, I just assumed you were all joking

>> No.61372999

>>61372872
Anerat had a teddy bear or something like that named fifi
Young Bae convinced herself that because she """borrowed""" fifi so often, the doll actually belonged to her and straight up gaslit herself into believing the doll had originally been purchased for her and threw a fit when anerat tried to take it back

>> No.61373013

>>61372769
yeah but she only watched that one because her sister liked it, her sister is older and she was in the time when inuyasha and yugioh came out.

>> No.61373046

>>61372937
Why didn't she show her yugioh?
It's more popular than Inuyasha.
That was my point, Bae didn't get a CHOICE in entertainment, it was hand-me-downs.

>> No.61373083

>>61372872
>Ane rat had a pink teddy bear she named "fifi"
>One day Bae randomly said "have you guys seen my pink teddy bear?"
>Anerat said "Wait, you mean Fifi?
>Bae said "YEAH, MY TEDDY BEAR THAT I'VE HAD SINCE BIRTH"
>Anerat and Bae started fighting
>Bae believes Anerat should've let Bae win that argument and given her the teddy bear since she's the cute little sister and older siblings are supposed to dote on their younger siblings
>They kept fighting until they reached home and Fifi was found in Anerat's closet
>Bae accused Anerat of stealing Fifi

>Bae and Anerat were chilling before dinner and they were playing a handheld and having fun
>Anerat told Bae she's not allowed to play Pokemon without her
>They started fighting but in a half-serious way with nudges at most
>Anerat's fingernail nicked Bae across the knee and she screamed Bloody murder
>Mama rat came out of the kitchen and was like "BAE WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON"
>Bae kept crying even though it was a tiny paper cut with minimal bleed, it was mostly shock
>Mama rat started scolding Bae
>Anerat said "It's not even THAT big of an injury, she's overreacting!"
>Later at the dinner table, Bae was sitting all quiet and sad and sniffling
>Mama rat ranted to Anerat about how "SHE IS YOUR YOUNGER SISTER, YOUR ONLY FLESH AND BLOOD IN THIS WORLD AFTER WE ARE GONE"
>Anerat kept glaring at Bae for the remainder of the dinner
>This was the only time Bae remembers where Anerat got in trouble and the parents took her side

>> No.61373125

>>61372815
dont worry chad engineers will find a way to clean the world from the jew in white coat

>> No.61373164

>>61373083
(me)
The second story is a bonus meant for >>61373046
to show him that it was anerat who shared her stuff with Bae

>> No.61373180

>>61372999
It keeps getting worse and worse. Were her parents some fairy tale caricature evil Cinderella Stepmom? Did they make her clean the house while they took her sister to parties?

>> No.61373224

>>61373083
Kusogaki needs correction

>> No.61373237

>>61361150
It's your fault for not saving her, anon. You've failed yet again.

>> No.61373267

>>61372999
>>61373083
>the faggot in this thread arguing that this shit WASN'T abuse
Wew.

>> No.61373322

>>61373180
>you remember how Bae said she cooks and cleans for Anerat and that's how she learned most of her domestic skills
I mean... it isn't that far from the truth

>> No.61373382

>>61373083
>This was the only time Bae remembers where Anerat got in trouble and the parents took her side
You mean they never took her side the other times?
This is textbook child favoritism

>> No.61373410

>>61373180
It really is a little baffling just how much more freedom her older sister was given over her
Makes you wonder why, despite the older sister's success, they decided to double down on Bae with even more restrictions to the point she had to watch her sister play games and shit instead of getting her own

>> No.61373414

>>61372881
Preach it sister

>> No.61373440

>>61373083
I dont know who to blame here, so chaotic kek

>> No.61373453

>>61372881
>>61372927
there are some posts here that seethe that a girl decided to become a vtuber while we are in /vt/, man the absolute state of this board.
At the end of the day bae's parents decided to support her and bae doesnt blame her parents for anything.

>> No.61373475

>>61372744
One classic example was one girl in high school getting arrested for drug possession/needing to get bailed out by parents who freaked out and effectively disowned her.
Much more interesting cases involved said sheltered girls finding their first BF in college, getting involved in the sorority greek life, and ending up having 10 guys or more on their quickdial tinder rotation. You'd be shocked to see how many former virgins might have a body count in the mid double digits within a matter of months (first is always hardest, but once that barrier is gone, they go all out). Usually its the combination of being introduced to weed and alc in a short period of time.
More than a few cases where these girls channel their parental trauma onto an endless string of BFs/hookups when they get off their meds. Another was quite open about leveraging her arts degree and prestigious alma mater to spent more time at museums and try and marry a rich old guy. Even a case where a friend found an Ivy League girl he knew on SeekingArrangements working as a high class escort.
Perhaps more relevant case happened with one shutin 5/10 weeb girl being sad about being alone for valentines, hoe queen offered to bring her to frat row, and instantly found 4-5 frat bros lining up to hookup with her in an hour.

>> No.61373477

>>61373453
/thread

>> No.61373493

>>61363510
Because people don't just become smarter when you punish them. Punishments MIGHT force them to work harder and achieve better academic results but that doesn't mean they're more intelligent because of that.

>> No.61373503

>>61368149
>for attacked
oh, of course its an ESL
probably a shitskin too

>> No.61373528

>>61373453
>>61373477
t. Asian parents

>> No.61373566

>>61373453
Some anons are arguing her parents only support her dream because she's making money

>> No.61373578

>>61373453
>seethe that a girl decided to become a vtuber while we are in /vt/
Unironically we are being raided by /v/ because of Mori's MGS song, you'll be seeing a lot more "vtubers are bad you cuck simp" posts for the next few days

>> No.61373581

>>61373453
>At the end of the day bae's parents decided to support her
Because of the money.

>> No.61373602

>>61373046
>Why didn't she show her yugioh?
You're missing the point. She wouldn't have seen the original Yu-Gi-Oh regardless of whether she had freedom because when she was a kid, they must've been on 5D or Zexal or some shit.


>Bae didn't get a CHOICE in entertainment
Not getting to choose your entertainment and having entertainment to begin with are 2 different things.

>> No.61373611

>>61373382
is normal for parents to have a favorite, and i believe in asian culture the firstborn is more important.
it sucks for the brother but i kinda understand it.

>> No.61373615

>>61373410
>she had to watch her sister play games and shit instead of getting her own
No way, there's just no way. I refuse to believe you

>> No.61373635

>>61373566
You have no proof otherwise.
Occam's razor.

>> No.61373648

>>61373615
It's literally true, she never owned her won console, she had to share with her sister depending on her mood

>> No.61373673

>>61373410
>she had to watch her sister play games and shit instead of getting her own
Look anon, I'm an only child too but that in particular isn't anything uncommon or unhealthy

>> No.61373701

>>61373648
>>61373615
she managed to get a DS by telling her mom that it was to play brain academy and exercise the brain.
that was her only console.

>> No.61373730

>>61373615
Not just her sister
She also had to watch her friends play games and shit instead of getting her own, see >>61367348
You can really tell she wanted to own her own console
>>61373701
Oh yeah I remember that, that was quite smart of her

>> No.61373744

>>61373475
Jesus. Anglo universities sound like a great place for a guy.

>> No.61373784

>>61373566
>>61373581
yeah but still they are letting her do it anyway, she's going to move to japan next year, you can call it the way you want but they are giving her more freedom now.

>> No.61373795

>>61373410
>>61373180
It's a classic case of golden child syndrome, and the variety differs between whether the older/younger child is the successful one. If older is a failure, parents pretend they don't exist (for example a few asian parents effectively acted like they only had one child and never mentioned the failure of an older sibling in public).
In this case, anerat is the successful one, so they will impose the same unrealistic expectations onto Bae. Considering Ane ultimately became a doctor, you can expert a stereotypical combination of perfect grades, academic competition success, likely a young prodigy in art/music, teacher's pet, etc. In contrast, your younger daughter is a failure of a weeb whose only hobby is dancing with exposed midriff and Idol/seiyuu shit. Even if her grades are comparable, you can never live up to her unless you do EVEN better and exceed her.
Hell, there was an infamous case of one girl who was always deemed a dumb failure by her parents since her older sister had a 2400 SAT and got into Harvard. Even when SHE also got into Harvad, her parents still deemed her a failure since they had to hard carry her with tutors/hospital internships at their office, while her sister achieved all of that on her own.

>> No.61373819

>>61373784
On the condition that Mama rat visits her bi-monthly to check up on her
Also Papa rat heavily protested and she had to convince him it was for the sake of her job

>> No.61373838

>>61373673
Parents usually tell you that the console is for both of you, or they buy two consoles.
They don't buy 1 for the golden child and let the other begging for a chance to play

>> No.61373877

>>61373611
>it sucks for the brother but i kinda understand it.
Boys are considered more valuable than girls, so the brother must've been a total fuckup if they didn't focus all their attention on him.

>> No.61373910

>>61360625
If her parents like this she won't become a vtuber in the first place anon

>> No.61373954

>>61373615
She told a story one time about how she wanted to play DDR really badly but her parents would only get her the fucking mat and she had to haul that mat over to a family friend's place to play their copy of the game on their ps2

>> No.61373959

>>61373838
>They don't buy 1 for the golden child and let the other begging for a chance to play
Asians do.
Like, as an Asian, I'm not that shocked it happened to her.

>> No.61373978

>>61362071
eh. Women.

>> No.61374014

>>61373744
Only if you are a certified Chad. Vast majority of the Asian guys ended up as complete incels who got 0 attention (maybe a crumb from a 3/10 or below). All the moderately well adjusted girls were dating above their league, and the only weeb/nerdy guys were generally only taken for their wealth or gold dig potential (i.e. 250-400k starting salary on some big tech/quant finance guys, rich parents for others). The guys who are getting tons of success are the 6' or above athletes with 6 pack abs, socialite frat bros, and the like.
It's not quite always that stark, but the 80/20 (or more likely 95/5 rule) applies. It's great for top percentile, and absolutely nothing for the rest of the masses. Given we're /here/ watching vtubers, you can imagine the result.

>> No.61374123

>The Japanese company saved the Chinese girl from her parents and her fans are Koreans
What am I supposed to make of this

>> No.61374175

>>61374123
>What am I supposed to make of this
China was a mistake.

>> No.61374190

>>61361266
Based. No one in the right mind wouldn't be mad about this kek

>> No.61374197

>>61374123
Chaos

>> No.61374206

>>61373959
why? Wtf?

>> No.61374209

>>61374123
East Asian unity? All three countries hate each other, but they are more culturally similar than you'd expect. Tiger parenting, extreme childhood competitiveness for high school/college entrance exams on the mainland, etc are all shared traits of all three.

>> No.61374297

>>61373819
>On the condition that Mama rat visits her bi monthly to check up on her
yeah and? is it that strange for parents to visits their kinds once in a while, also that could be the first few months until they see that her daughter is fine on her own.
>Also Papa rat heavily protested and she had to convince him it was for the sake of her job
But compare that to the young bae that never questioned what their parents said, now bae is pushing for it and she succeeded

>> No.61374341

>>61374209
Most Japanese parents aren't expecting their child to become a doctor or lawyer.
Heck, I even read a news article that said Japanese parents do not voice their opinion on what their child chooses as a careerer.

As for the testing, I don't know if their parents pressure them, or they are just doing it themselves because they don't want to go to a shit, lower-grade school.

>> No.61374365

>>61374297
My personal rrat is that Bae's bungee jumping stunt was all a ploy to make Papa rat more submissive, it was after that that she made up her mind to move to Japan and Papa rat was too weak to resist

>> No.61374381

>>61363510
have you watched her? she did great in big brain academy and you wanted those games, she is a extremely fast learner, she is doing lies of p for her first souls like one of the hardest in the genre and is a master at parry.
https://streamable.com/qxcg2x

>> No.61374420

>>61374297
You are absolutely desperate to spin this in a positive light for her father.
Really despicable and bias, since you've admitted you're projecting into her father's shoes.

>> No.61374448

>>61374381
She has talent for gaming but are we ignoring her extremely challenged sense of direction and her early onset Alzheimer's?

>> No.61374573

>>61361904
These anime whores are no better than ethots who pandering emotionally to their "customers" online for that money

>> No.61374600

>>61373910
I think you underestimate the failure rate of tiger parenting. We all look to the few successes and assume that's how it should be. It's similar to the American trope that most Asians/Indians are top tier high IQ intellectuals, whereas the vast majority are dirt poor farmers with room temperature IQ. The difference is that the ones who immigrated to the West and succeeded are the rich elites from Asia, and thus they can become successful engineers/doctors/tech CEOs, etc.
While most tiger parented kids have at least some early success in school compared to their free-roaming peers, generally most fail out in the high school phase and don't quite achieve the same college/career success that we are familiar with. Keep in mind how abysmally low top university entrance rates are (5% objectively, and realistically much much lower once you remove the "guaranteed" slots for athletes, legacy kids, special national talents, billionaire trustees, etc.), and you see most kids will end up at their local state school or equivalent EVEN under Asian parenting. The next step of elite job search is just as bad: even for Ivy League kids, getting into Facebook/Google, Goldman Sachs/Mckinsey, etc are also horribly low, like 1% low again. What happens to all of the ones who fail out of this system? Normal average jobs, and Bae is one of those "average" individuals who managed to find her own place in vtubing instead of the traditional rrat (heh) race.

>>61374341
Ultimately Japan still uses the same toxic high school/college entrance exam system as China and Korea, so the culture is largely the same (at least at the elite levels). Generally tiger parenting happens at the lower-middle or firmly middle class where parents are educated, but not rich, and want their kids to make the leap into the upper class. To that end, the only pathway to success is to get into your top national university or an Ivy/Oxbridge. In order to get in, you need insane perfect test scores in Asia, or those same scores AND extracurriculars in the US/UK/Canada. Maybe in JP they have less of a pervasive culture of obsession about this, similar to how most non-Asian Americans don't really care THAT much about getting their kids into a top college, and just think state school is good enough.

>> No.61374623

I'm surprised at the amount of genuine discussion in this thread

>> No.61374626

>>61374448
>but are we ignoring her extremely challenged sense of direction and her early onset Alzheimer's?
ammm... yep

>> No.61374650

>>61367521
Hahaha some of them didn't even attack the father you know.
I wonder who is seething here...

>> No.61374693

>>61374420
Nope, Im saying that bae is pushing for her dreams and she succeeded, she convinced her dad and thats what it matters, you can seethe for bae if you want.
Bae doesnt blame her parents for anything and while i dont agree with everything they did at the end bae is happy right now and thats more important that not knowing yugi oh.

>> No.61374749

>>61374206
nta,
asian things i guess, the little brother is just the backup

>> No.61374896

>>61374693
I'd like to add to this that Bae wouldn't be Bae if her parents didn't do the things they did, I value an earnest girl with tradwife capabilities and genuine aspirations and intentions far more than internet brainrotted pop-culture fiends neck deep in 7 layers of irony

>> No.61375031

>>61374190
>>61361266
Memes aside, there's definitely a decent amount of truth in this. Asian parents would certainly feel ashamed of Bae not succeeding in a "respectable" profession like her older sister. This is due to a combination of most people having no clue wtf a rrat idol is, being an entertainer, and pandering to weebs. None of these exactly scream "high class", and the same stereotypes pervade Asian culture (in China, many top actresses/musicians/TV hosts just end up as mistresses to rich/powerful government officials, same goes for JP/KR idols, etc.). WIthin that backdrop, there is certainly an idea of selling your honor for money, especially if they see all the r34 art and her annual christmas/valentines GFE pandering.
If her parents see her content (even just dancing on stage in idol concert), they probably won't be very proud of her beyond the fame/monetary success that it brings. Realistically, they have just come to terms with it and accepted that whatever brings in money and allows a comfortable retirement is good enough.
Lots of cases with Asian kids dropping out of top big tech/finance careers to do startups and parents/relatives freaking out, but ultimately they shut up and accept it once kids cash out for a few million dollars. Deep down they still think having the elite company employee title is more valuable though, even if you earned 10x or 100x more on your own. Look up KR's cultural obsession of "working for Samsung" and you get the idea: their highest aspiration for kids is to be a wageslave for life for the company, and they dedicate their entire life preparing for Samsung's own entrance exams (on top of college exams). Even a millionaire startup founders are outcasts unless they get absorbed into the chaebol machine.

>> No.61375148

>>61373954
holy moly that is..... wow

>> No.61375197

>>61374206
NTA, but is it surprising? Asia runs (at least on theory) on pure meritocracy, not equality. Obviously reality doesn't work this way, but the mindset prevails when it comes to raising children at least.
Why should you be equal to your older sister if she is a success, while you are a failure? If anything, you SHOULD be treated as a 2nd class citizen within the home until you improve and become worthy of matching your sister. See that console you want? Maybe if you study harder, ace the final exam, and win that sport/music/math competition that's coming up, we'll let you play too.

>> No.61375335

>>61374600
how do rich Asians educate their children?

>> No.61375394

>>61364222
>self hating chink
Good, good...

>> No.61375451

>>61375335
they have life solved already, why worry

>> No.61375507

>>61374896
I don't think she or her parents would be satisfied with her being a trad wife.

>> No.61375568

>>61375451
You didn't answer my question. Do they not give a shit about their education?

>> No.61375614

>>61374896
But muh relatability!

>> No.61375619

>>61375568
sorry im not the anon you were responding to, lets wait for him to answer you.

>> No.61375668

>>61375197
Sounds horrible. How many asian Holomem are younger daughters?

>> No.61375868

How can Asians be so motivated and successful and still harbor an inferiority complex towards white people?
Most whites are lazy and mediocre.

>> No.61375939

>>61375335
>>61375568
>>61375619
Depends how rich we're talking. Normal-rich (i.e. single/teen millions) will generally be more or less the same, maybe with some additional enrichment with travel, learning to fly a plane, horseback riding etc. Always will go to top private schools, but more or less same as upper middle class, except they can have much better preparation/help so they don't need to tryhard quite as much and still succeed in college/career. Parents have some level of wealth/connections to help them along (much easier to get a nice hospital internship if your mom/dad is a doctor or director, they can probably also put in a nice word with friend of a friend who is a professor at a local university etc.)

The true super-rich (maybe 50m minimum to hundreds of millions+) is on another level, where they heavily subdivide into those who are seeking to raise a successor, and their other kids who are just expected to find their own happiness and not bring shame to the family (Prince William vs Prince Harry/Andrew situation). Obviously data points at this stage are super rare, but successors are trained with even greater pressure to carry on the family, lineage, whereas you might see non-successors similar to the kids of Bill Gates/Warren Buffett where they find their own respectable hobbies (maybe something like arts, charity, travel, academia, etc.) and just pursue that. In a world where you don't have to work, what you do decide to do is what you enjoy.

For education, tryhards will need their successor to get that Harvard degree, or their domestic counterpart. For regular kids, they might buy their way into Harvard/similar Ivy just because they can and why not. Others might have kids who completely fall off the wagon/refuse to even go to college, and may end up at a mediocre (by elite standards) university. If 1st tier is uber elite, 2nd tier buy-in is like USC/NYU, and then you get lower tier pay2play like Syracuse, Arizona State, etc. Once you look past US college rankings at around 100ish, basically anyone willing to pay full tuition can get in.

>> No.61376211

>>61375868
An interesting trend I've seen is that there are key success differentiators between the 1% and the 0.001%. For example, even at the MIT/Harvard level, you generally see Asians making up much of the top 10-20% of students, which are already super elite. However, once you get to the true #1 top rated genius in the department/school, often times Asians fall off. It's the difference between natural genius, versus hard work (go watch Sakurasou for a weeb analysis of the idea). Most Asians achieve decent success simply because they put in effort, whereas many whites simply don't put in effort and grow naturally. In the case where a white person actually has both talent AND work ethic, they will excel to a whole new degree.
If you look at China, KR, and JP, most of the culture is relatively stagnant, there is little innovation, and the entire country focuses on rote memorization/repetition rather than creativity. As a result, these countries are good at producing strong test takers and employees, but not visionary geniuses. Most major tech innovations are still made by Americans, for better or worse, and the Asian countries generally can only imitate/replicate these rather than truly create. That's the blessing/curse of the Asian work ethic.

>> No.61376252

>>61375668
i believe irys is half jap and like bae has a older sister that is doctor.
but japs are usually more relaxed in those things and is only half asian.
i dont think she suffered the kind of things bae was put to, but she surely had to suffer with having to live on her older more successful sisters shadows

>> No.61376582
File: 1.06 MB, 686x986, Flowers for Mama rat.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
61376582

This is why they hate her

>> No.61377012

>>61376211
If you think about it, the most significant invention China's recently made is Tiktok after all

>> No.61377327

>>61374448
more of her lies of p
https://streamable.com/qxcg2x
https://streamable.com/0nnpa2
https://youtu.be/Hgq49op1tzc?t=20809
https://youtu.be/ZIcAV-AQo3k?t=22957

>> No.61377377

>>61360625
this literally describes more than a dozen different Asian-Australian girls I know
I guess OP has never met one, to think that this experience was unusual

>> No.61377480

>>61377377
Read the thread

>> No.61377561

>>61377327
>no Biboo vs Baeby 4-5

>> No.61377693

>>61377480
?

>> No.61377793

>>61377561
i believe after biboo got that flame dagger she started to delete all bosses.
the archbishop andreus that is weak to fire biboo deleted him while bae struggled a lot.

>> No.61377798

>>61377377
>>61377480
Honestly for all the discussion about Bae, the same (if not more) can be said of Bae's GF Miori who is still stuck in indie hell.
Add in more dysfunctional parents just a few days away from a divorce, the shame of actually being a drunk ASMR GFE streamer while stuck in her disapproving parents' house, and actually dropping out of (med) school twice, and you have a far more interesting case study of a Korean menhera experience.

>> No.61377867

>>61377798
That girl hasn't moved out yet?

>> No.61377881

>>61377793
Bae kept dying to the laser attack and then deleted the boss once she figured it out. I'm sad that she wasn't able to play the game this week

>> No.61378056

>>61377798
Tell me.more.

>> No.61378209

>>61377881
yeah the archbishop is supposed to be a filter but i guess someone told biboo about its weakness to fire or she got lucky that the weapon she choosed was good vs him.

>> No.61378379

>>61360625
It's not. Her parents need to be shot

>> No.61378425

>>61377867
Haven't watched her recent streams, but I was under the impression that her last "move" was along with her parents after they got kicked out of their old rental? Maybe someone with more up-to-date information can opine, but it's not unheard of to be stuck with parents forever. Someone save this poor menhera...

>>61378056
I wish I could do Miori justice, but you can refer to the archive of "I love Miori" posts for better summaries of the best EN GFE streamer out there.
She's a chubby femcel Korean alcoholic menhera who genuinely loves her chat and does the best drunk GFE ASMR around.
She's also a super talented singer that can hold her own against the best of them (and does her own sound editing, and even contributes to a ton of other singers, including Bae and Nerissa among others).
She is known for personally producing solo merch that mogs anything that any of the big corpos have done (super reasonable cost and free shipping to boot) on full on plushies, dakis, and booba mousepads. >>60408944
The only downsides are that she's a memer and will easily offend unicorns (such as collabing with male singers, playing cuck simulator as a joke or doing a meme cover of the NTR song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8b2Aqunt5s).). She's not for everyone, but certainly the hardest working and most dedicated/genuine GFE you can find.

>> No.61378471

>>61378425
>gfe streamer
>often does male collabs
Am I missing something here

>> No.61378544

>>61378471
Unicorns need not apply. We are in a Bae-t thread to begin with, so male collabs should be a given. It's certainly the biggest strike against her, but considering the general quality of EN GFE, can you really say there's anyone better?

>> No.61378745

Are Jews the same as Asians?

>> No.61378910

stop talking about my girlfriend in bait threads

>> No.61378978

>>61378910
But it's Bae's thread

>> No.61379011

>>61378910
you also arrived late to the last one. Why even bother at this point? It already got 300+ replies.

>> No.61379252

>>61361266
>all these (you)s
damn, filipinos have a lot of generational trauma

>> No.61379312

>>61377798
Miori and Bae rarely even talk anymore

>> No.61379395

>>61373046
The better explanation is that Inuyasha is much more popular with girls, so her sister probably saw both and knew that Bae would like Inuyasha more than yugioh.

>> No.61379434

>>61378745
Sorry anon, /jidf/ is that way. >>61362854
That said, the Jewbas do have some nice GFE ASMR if you look past their menhera/problematic backgrounds. Good GFE is in short supply, so we'll take what we can get, even if it's damaged goods.
Realistically, there's actually a lot of similarities in culture, down to stereotypes about being cheap and being xenophobic to outsiders who aren't part of their culture. Asian parents can be rather superstitious regardless of their education, even if they don't outright subscribe to a mainstream religion (such as even doctors and professors still buying into "traditional medicine" that is basically little more than homeopathy).

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