/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>61338601
yes,she is german

>make five million variations of the same stupid unfunny one liner joke
>now any time anyone references any animal kfp can now make it all about ME ME ME

>>61338879
She lives rent free in my head. And honestly, I like it

>>61338601

>age of empires coaches
The modern service economy as told by zoomers and millennials has gone too far and I hate it kek. What a fucking clown world.

>>61338946
For me it's Lumi, mostly because of her annoying discordfags.

lmao what the fuck who needs a AoE coach just watch a couple of spirit of the law videos, maybe some build order tutorials and some pro replays

>>61339018
Still leagues better than the thousands of years of giving money to people who talk about their imaginary friends.

>>61339171
All women go to therapy though.

>>61338601
You'd be mindbroken too if your kingdom was destroyed by a herd of elephants. Have you seen those fuckers when they're mad? Scary as fuck.

>>61338601
Reminder that this all happened because she didn't make halberdiers.

I fucking hate Saplings.

It's nice that they are playing a good game though.

>>61338601
>Lose game
>Practice to get better at game
>/vt/sister somehow has a problem with this
ok, what niji yabbed this time?

>>61338601
I can see her being smug about it when she wins on their next tourney after training so many hours and now getting a pro as a coach.

But if she loses again, it will be hilarious af.

>>61338601
And yet

>>61339443
She has really backed herself into a lose-lose situation

>>61339416
They got an "alchemist with special gloves" and are being attacked on Musk's shithole

>>61339416
>friendly tournament happens
>lose game
>loss completely lives rent free in your head
>get and very likely pay for pro coaching
It's the friendly tournament part of it that feels wrong. It's not like she joined an AoE2 tournament with real hardcore ranked/tourney players, this was just a game between colleagues who are barely just average in the game. It's like if you lost a LAN party with your friends and in response you suddenly decide to be coached by a Korean.

>>61339477
>haha sorry girls I can't play and have fun with you anymore, I'm almost a pro now so it wouldn't be fair

>>61339416
A new wave of failures is about to debut.

>>61339560
I fail to see the issue, nijisubhuman. Even if it was a friendly match if you want to get better at the game you practice and do it, no buts and whats.
I guess improving is foreign to nijishitters since their EN branch is sinking to the ground.

>>61339671
sure kiara keep telling yourself that

>>61338827
I don't understand what you are saying

>>61339416
Holy fucking rent free.

>>61339560
how is this any different from the girls that grind and get coached in Apex/valorant

>>61338601
Holy shit that's a long neck.

>>61339868
Because it's Kiara.

>>61339832
NIJISEETHE

>>61338601
Since when does AOE2 have a competitive scene and why is Kiara so invested?

>>61339943
So?

>>61339416
Remember the "coaching" from shadowverse years ago? No one actually cared about the game, they only wanted to collab with fleshstreamers. The game was literally dropped after the coaching stream

>>61339868
The "getting pro coaching" part isn't that different. The context is what makes it different. Apex and Valo are very much active events in the vtuber community and anyone who wants to run with the big dogs in that scene would need to go tryhard. It was literally only Moona and a few IDs who went and learned AoE2 properly, so deciding to tryhard in this scene feels like she just couldn't accept not being the best in her friend group.

Hey, if this somehow leads to a competitive AoE2 arc in vtubing when Kiara becomes a monster I'm all for it. It's just weird that Kiara goes and gets pro coaching to be "better" when the competition is just her coworkers. If Kiara decides to do a couple matches against TheViper or DauT in the future then good on her for finding a weird passion in AoE2, in fact I will unironically oshihen to Kiara if that happens.

>>61339868
Well that one are for real tournaments, with organizers, official streams and prizes. Kiara got a coach because she lost a friendly tournament between other holos.
It's like if Ame got a Worms coach after losing that Worms Tournament she organized

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0MuPUfD0ho

>>61340049
Since forever. It's never not had one. In fact it's the biggest it's ever been.

>>61340049
>Since when does AOE2 have a competitive scene
Since 1999, and it's been growing a lot recently.
>and why is Kiara so invested?
She seems to like the game, plus she's competitive and lost.

>>61340149
I'm not doubting you but why have I never seen a single clip or stream or video of it? Show me the faker zed or justin vs daigo moment.

>>61340131
How do you expect her to get into real tournaments without grinding and getting help?

>>61339487
not surprised, this is kiara we talkin about lmao

>>61340049
>Since when does AOE2 have a competitive
Do you live under a rock?

this is when she got the idea for this collab btw

>>61340251
>why have I never seen anything about the competitive scene of this game I know nothing about?

>>61340251
Because Youtube didn't think you'd be interested.
Here's the biggest caster
https://www.youtube.com/@T90Official
and one of the top ranked players, who makes lots of meme shorts
https://www.youtube.com/@HeraAgeofEmpires2

>>61340343
Oh no it was her idea... Had any of the other girls played it before?

>>61340343
I take back everything I said. Kiara go fucking get some more pro coaching and do ranked climbing streams. We need the first 2000+ ELO chuuba.

>NO, you're not supposed to improve
>if you lose once you lose forever, stop practicing
no wonder you people got upset when Ame told you to improve yourselves

>>61340251
>I never seen a single clip or stream or video of it?
I have never seen a stream or clip of any game that didn't involve vtubers
>Show me the faker zed or justin vs daigo moment.
What? Who?

So, how is she going to counter mass elephants?

>>61340448
The answer was literally just camels + halbs and maybe some mangonels. You don't need a pro to tell you that.

>>61340448
Probably with mass pikes.

So I looked up the games Kiara was watching and they have like 20k views so I don't know why everyone is mad that I didn't know AOE2 had a competitive scene when it's smaller than Kiara's stream.

>>61340380
Yeah, ID has been pushing AoE2 for more than a year

>>61338601
After watching both Fauna's and Kiara's stream fully, EN were pretty into the game. Halfway through, Kiara said her hands were shaking. Experiencing what competitive RTS is like. Kronii is even practicing, having nightmares of the games. Happy to see them actually enjoying what they play. Many times they don't.

>>61340581
Because it's retarded to think that a popular competitive game doesn't have a scene. It's not about getting YouTube recommendations. it's about turning your brain on for 30 seconds.

>>61340448
mass halberdier backed by monks for conversions

>>61340105
>so deciding to tryhard in this scene feels like she just couldn't accept not being the best in her friend group
you'd think after all this time Kiara would accept not being the best at anything lmao.

if she keeps playing Age (and or other RTS games) she'll unironically become my Oshi

>>61339477
If Kiara wants good numbers and a fun arc for all to watch she should lean into this and egg on a playful rivalry with fauna. EN sorely lacks competitive relationships and the payoff of a Kiara vs Fauna stream would be worth it. Hell, bring Reine and Anya back if they don't want to make it so 1v1-oriented.

It doesn't have to stop after an aoe steam either, they could even push it to other games e.g. dota and would probably make for some good streams.

She seems very concerner with appearances and how she comes off.

>>61339171
This isn’t Reddit

>>61340730
Fauna needs to be the one to reach out and challenge Kiara so it doesn't come off as Kiara seeking revenge.

>>61340730
The problem is fans are too fucking dumb and cannot handle competitive rivalries, they'll think the girls literally hate each other. Never show these fans pro wrestling because they'll be confused why the wrestlers are friends when the cameras aren't rolling.

>>61340105
>Feels like
Lmao. Maybe she just realized these games are infinitely better than valorant zoomer goyslop

>>61339218
I think he means televangelists

>>61340706
let's get her into paradox.

>>61340730
Unlikely. If Kiara does get good enough to the point of surpassing Fauna, then 100% Fauna is going to drop it so she doesn't look weak.

>>61338601
yeah she and that other bitch were salty beyond believe that stream, a pathetic display to watch.

>>61340791
Fucking this ! The average hololive tourist has a room temperature IQ

>>61340730
It would be nice, but I'm not seeing Fauna practicing.

>>61340383
wake me up if she does brood war

>>61340049
Holy zoomer. Age of Empires 2 is one of the oldest competitive scenes in gaming. I get that RTS is mostly a dead genre but have you been living under a rock?

A while back, Fauna did say she preferred to avoid competition. Because she can become too competitive. But that changed over time and she seems more relaxed about it.

They were even talking about trying Starcraft at the end of the stream. Would be fun to see beginners go at it. Until Kaela joins.

>>61338601
This is like studying after the exam.

>>61340049
go back redditor

>>61340730
The last time Kiara and Moona tried this rivalry thing, the fanbase exploded into a shitstorm, and then it happened again with Fauna and Kronii during the early Council days. Basically what >>61340791 said.

>>61340791
You're right, and it sucks. Are JPbros like this?
>>61340787
Elefauna... come mend the bridge.. the onus is on you...

>>61340791
Rival wrestlers really do hate each other though wtf are you talking about?

>>61338601
Since when are women good at videogames. Huh.

Thing is Fauna doesn't need to practice she doesn't need to take part on any of this she is already living rent free in Orange woman head, the rumbling will echo forever in her mind as long as she is in hololive

>>61341013
I remember the peko thing but what was the fauna kronii rivalry? Are holofans really that retarded?

>>61338601
I'm technically a clip-watcher on this incident, it was more like some dude cutting up a good chunk of the stream though and reposting it with subtitles but she seemed so ass-blasted when she went to forfeit the match after getting her entire base destroyed by Fauna's Rumbling... I thought it would just end at that but it hurt her pride so hard she got a coach...

>>61341090
It's about women competing with other women. No trans allowed.

>>61338827
>now any time anyone references any animal kfp can now make it all about ME ME ME
Wow and Kiara did not even have to make a "I am" video for this to happen, damn her antis really give her promotion for free

>>61338601
>Kiara practices with a pro and gets very good
>All the other girls see this and feel threatened
>They all gang up and eliminate Kiara first in the rematch
How mindbroken would Kiara be?

>>61341159
It was the one minecaft stream they did where Kronii started chasing Fauna all around the JP server because of something, and then Ina helped Fauna hide in the walls and Kronii died from falling. It's the one that popularized Jokeronii.
>Are holofans really that retarded?
Yes. Though sometimes it's just shitposters larping as fans.

>>61339560
according to the title of the last aoe2 stream of hers I saw she wants to go ranked
I don't think its unreasonable to pay a coach if you have the money and want to go ranked

>>61340403
/Thread/

>>61341260
Kronii, Fauna and Sana bantering was so fucking good early on, they really had something special that set them apart.

>>61341048
>You're right, and it sucks. Are JPbros like this?
Yes, there was a reminder recently that the girls are just playing games and dont actually hate each other

> give money to kiara
> money ends up going to 3d whore
you can't win

>>61341189
But even women don't know how to play videogames. Vtubers don't know how play videogames either.

>>61341243
>implying they could even pull off a feudal age rush
Kiara is already the best AoE player in Hololive just by training against the Hard CPU and somewhat standing her ground, enough to see strategies more advanced than "let's build an economy for 30 minutes and then deathball the opponent".

>>61341159
>Are holofans really that retarded?
Anon its not just a hololive thing.
Someone in Nijisanji literally got harassed and death threats from the fans just because she beat an older liver in mahjong.

>>61341292
It's very unreasonable to pay for a coach if you just want to go ranked.
It's very reasonable if you are a content creator and want to show progress for your viewers though

I've been watching the AoE2 ranked scene for like 3 years now and I've never heard of this woman. I look her up and she's only just started doing casts 2 months ago on twitch after a 2 year period of inactivity?

They should try a WC3 tournament next.

>>61341432
Well, Kiara wouldn't collab with a man, so her options are very limited.

>>61340636
Yeah I'm glad they at least got a taste of what's so fucking fun about RTS - playing against other people. To my experience girls tend to not like them so much but playing against each other there's a thrill to it because you (usually) mostly don't totally know what your opponents are doing until shit starts to go down, and you can only guess where they're at and try to keep up yourself.

Also since they're all very new at it they don't yet have meta strats down yet like how to properly scout, guessing who should be about at what stage when, what should they be intending on building as the known meta for that civ etc. What Kiara is doing however is yeah, as was said, if the other girls are aware how much more she's been playing they might gang up on her and she'd have to be REALLY good to fend them off or will probably bust a vessel with rage experiencing it, because that IS what happens when one guy is way too much a threat. Same situation for Commander play in MtG etc, that's just how it goes where people make gentlemen's agreements to eliminate the mutual dire threat.

>>61340082
Those streams were sponsored by Shadowverse you absolute waste of life.

>>61341459
T90bros...

>>61341377
that's where the line is drawn between the two. There may be annoying whinners among the hololive fanbase, but they at lease don't send death threats over video games/other livers interrupting asmr/baseball autism/etch. whereas in kurosanji death threats seem to be a natural response.

>>61341377
Vtubing atracts a lot of bona fide autists that don't understand social relationships.

>>61339671
If you want to improve so much that you pay a pro to teach you after losing a friendly competition it means or you loved the game or you are bitter about the defeat

>>61341432
She probably chose her specifically because she's a woman.

The germanic desire to improve and conquer

>>61340730
Dota wouldn't be fun anon, Fauna would rape all of Holo it would make the Japanese shy on Chinese soil.

>>61341570
Not necessarily. Look up the Hana Kimura case, she acted mean to some guy in a reality show (scripted, apparently) and she got harassed to death. The nature of the entertainment doesn't matter, people will just naturally be shitheads when they're not talking face to face or 1-on-1.

What /vt/ thinks:
> Lmao, Kiara is still seething from losing. She got a coach to win next tournament and get revenge on Fauna. KEKEKEKEK LMAO RENT FREE

Meanwhile what Kiara thinks:
>I want to get better at the game that i enjoy, i will invite an AOE streamer to coach me and help me beat Hard AI also it would be nice content for my fans

Not to mention Kiara has no intention of participating in tournament again since some people in chat get too invested and act like pricks over everything she does

>>61340889
Unlikely. name one single time fauna has done that or anything like that.

>>61341459
shit, being a sane, rational human being and not a retarded delusional unicuck it didn't even occur to me that there would be an issue with collabing with bigger names in the scene who happen to be men. Would the unicorns really riot if Kiara interacted with T90?

>>61338601
>Female coach
>On an RTS game
So she basically paid this woman to learn how to play like an average player

>>61341722
>she acted mean to some guy in a reality show (scripted, apparently
It wasnt scripted, Hana had a history of being a cunt sometimes even in stardom and the scripted thing was just damage control.

>>61341850
Coaches who are a decent bit above your skill level but not overwhelmingly so tend to be the most understandable.

>>61339218
Yes but they PAY money so people listen to them talk.

>Find in page
>Fauna
>20 matches
Holy fucking schizoid

>>61341850
It seems counterintuitive but you don't want to get coached by the top pros immediately. It's like asking a master artist to teach you how to draw when you still don't know how to think in 3D.

>>61339443
>>61339019
>>61338601
Where does this fantasy lore even come from, she wanted her as a coach way before the "tournament".
Oh right, it comes from not watching streams and living on the catalog.

>>61341367
I beat the hard AI for the first time yesterday, the trick is to play Goths on arena and just fucking drown it in infantry
It was enormously satisfying but I still need to beat on an open map before I can say I'm really better than it

>>61341812
Possibly, thought it might be antis or it might be KFP (they're not sane either)

>We don't get huke interactions anymore
>People shitposting over kiara's skydiving instructor possibly being a man
>Attributing Tempus graduations to Vesper raiding Kiara's stream

>>61339018
You're a millennial though.

There is an elephant graveyard in Kiara's mind right now
That said doesn't this basically kills the possibility of more AoE2 casual games with the girls?

>>61341812
I doubt anyone would be legitimately upset about something like that, but some people would be against the changing standard, and the shitposting about it would never end.

>>61339477
Do you usually have someone coach you to do something for fun, or to win?

>>61339477
Wait, she's not participating anymore? That's a shame, it was a lot of fun to watch regardless of who won.

>>61342005
isn't kiara actually allergic to men or was that someone else

>>61342112
It might help that T90 is married, or at least getting married soon

>>61342119
You'd be surprised by the amount of people getting coached in various games, for ridiculous prices as well. 100 bucks for a session of coaching (play a handful of games depending on what you're getting coached in, plus postmortem review) is pretty much the standard and depending on how popular the coach is, it can go even higher.

>>61340139
It's so weird to see them puppeteer Sana like this. I get that the intention is to make her relevant again, but it feels more like they're just digging up her corpse and parading it around.

>>61340448
Fauna will be banned from playing persians anyway.

>>61342286
I think the guy is just really fond of Sana, maybe even a sanalite, since she pops up in almost every single video he made. It's really weird but I kinda got used to it after a while.

>>61340581
Dumb zoomer

>payed coach
Where do you people get the idea that she paid her?

>>61341260
That was kino as fuck, and the reason I noticed Fauna back then.

>wants to have fun
>same greyfags who shit talked her for surrendering are at it again literally making shit up

>>61341570
Have you watched any sports? Normalfags can be as quarrelsome as anyone, it's not a nerd thing.

>>61340448
The counter is technically pikemen/halberdiers, monks and mangonels, but the best counter is to not let the player with the elephants get to them in the first place. Fauna got away with it because Kiara was preoccupied with Kronii building a wonder and Moona coming to her rescue after Kiara invaded her place, but if she faced any harassment during her buildup (which was slow, Fauna was behind Kiara in game score up until Kiara's army got stuck in Anya's base and the war elephants hard counter the teutonic knights), she could have never amassed enough elephants to deal with Kiara.

>>61339671
this, Kiara at least cares to keep AoE as a thing. she wouldn't be practicing more if she was just bitter about it, it feels like some people, even other ENs specifically (ame, gura etc) would just throw up their hands and go "nope fuck this shit I'm never touching it again" if they got rolled. THAT is the casual shitter response and kiara is doing the opposite of it.

you can argue maybe she's kind of going a little too far because the other girls have AoE in mind still but aren't really-really focused on it as much but in the end as was said, if she winds up being too good she'll just get teamed up on so might be in for a learning experience, that a group of friends playing something generally all want to be on a similar skill level and all improve together instead of have one guy try 10x harder suddenly.

>>61341812
You're such a fucking moron. It's not about that at all. Why do people watch Hololive? Because they offer something nobody else really does. If you start being like everyone else, then why would anyone stick with you?
Like it or not, gender-segregated entertainment that panders to the male gaze is rather rare these days. (In the west anyway.) There will be opposition to anything that threatens that on principle alone, but also because of a genuine fear of it disappearing.
Nobody cares if a woman talks to a man, nobody would freak out. But it's not really what most people tune in for. Retards like you who think this is exclusively because of some unicorn boogieman are missing the point entirely.

>>61342142
they'll just switch to a different game. Moona was suggesting Starcraft

>>61342005
>People shitposting over kiara's skydiving instructor possibly being a man
holy fuck this board is retarded.

>>61342636
Gamescore only counts for so much. Fauna got higher on the tech tree earlier than Kiara, and would have destroyed Kronii's wonder herself had Kiara not gotten there first.
Of course, Anya had literally no army so I still think you're right that Kiara's team would have won in a straight fight, but the skill difference isn't that huge between Kiara and Fauna.

Kiara should learn how to do cannon rush if they are gonna do sc tourney.

>>61338601
LMFAO. no way

>>61342790
Thank you. I think AOE2 is a better fit for these girls since it's a bit slower than SC, but it'll be fun either way.

>>61339477
Kronii says she's practicing, too, and it's not like Kiara will become a pro just because of one stream with a coach. Games with 2 teams should still work.
It sucks if that's really not gonna happen anymore. I was really looking forward to it.

Has kiara at least moved her avatar off of the minimap?

>>61340838
Oh okay. I was confused I guess since randomly bringing up something that was popular 20 years ago among people who are mostly in their 60s now is kind of left field but yeah he can do that I guess?

>>61342048
My generation has little to do with the fact that meme economies built on rent seeking tend to suck and fail. Besides the fact that they are also redonkulus.

>>61342636
>fauna was literally just slow meandering economy buildup until she unleashed her memestack of animals on everyone else and dunked on people who had actual strategies
That is so fucking funny.

>>61338601
why try so hard when women are never better than men in gaming

are bvtm threads allowed on /vt/ now?

>>61343142
is bvtm collabing with a holoEN? no? then no.

>>61343270
then why is this thread that was obviously made by bvtm and his goons allowed to stay up?

>>61342533
She didn't. She literaly just asked her if she wants to give her some tipps

>>61340054
she doesn't pay rent

>>61343129
The funniest thing about that is that it is the most basic of strategies.

I will now watch the stream, thanks

>>61343582
>you can't just choose to hit me with a fucking rock, where's the STRATEGY, where's the finesse?

Kiara has no aggressive instincts and lacks self confidence. She'll try really hard, but in the end she'll buckle and panic and then sulk and essentially throw in the towel. She'll then double down on a training arc only to repeat the process again. What I'm actually looking forward to is if Kronii and Fauna actually learn how to play the game. Fuana actually does have an instinct and will to win, unlike Kiara, and Kronii actually has to care to win, which is hard for her. She had an actually good score before she dumped a bunch of wasted resources into that wonder and then didn't think to defend it because she didn't know how the game works and how people could actually punish her for trying.

>>61341243
Most EN require 1hr+ to build up their eco. Pro only need 30min+ to boom. Skill celling is pretty high

>>61340791
Who care about clipfags?

Whichever holo discovers the basic castle drop first is going to curb stomp the others

>>61343847
Kiara actually did that to Kronii's woodline. Although that may have been an accident on her part.

>>61339018
she's not a coach retard. she's literally just a commentator. Kiara just asked her if she could show her the ropes

>>61339164
but then she wouldn't get to talk to a girl

Kiara is just looking for excuses to get more girls to be tete with on stream.

AoE2 arc would be kino, but nothing will happen as long as Fauna is a puddle.

>>61343731
Read the thread, you're not getting your rematch

>>61344208
It's just not that she's a puddle, she's also having a very rough time.

>>61344517
What do you mean?

>>61344587
Just search for Fauna qrd on the archives

>>61338601
>her

>>61340131
Its not the same because Worms is not a competitive game, AoE 2 is.

>>61340343
Imaging waiting 10 months for a collab just to get stomped into the pavement by Elefauna lmao, now it makes sense why she is salty enough to hire a coach.

Accurate representation of relations between France and Germany after WW1.

>>61341950
why would you think in 3D for 2D drawings

>>61339019
Fauna Sweep!

>>61344986
Maybe he means perspective? It took humanity until the Renaissance to figure that out.

>>61340149
>In fact it's the biggest it's ever been.
fuck ever happened to AOE3

>>61338601
why are her teeth yellow on the side?

>>61344904
Maybe you should learn to read like mommy Fauna said

I love kiara and I need to breed her

>>61339567
nah, she said in a members stream that she always gets an overproportional amount of shitposting in her chat when she competes against any non-myth EN girls and is tired of it.

>>61345027
Rise of Nations was better.

>>61340105
>against TheViper
i feel like there is untapped viewer potential
they already got all the Mincraft subs who are interested in vtubers
getting featured by T90 might lead to new subs who never bothered to watch vtubers because they are not interested in Valorant/Apex/FPS
Kiara appeals to an older crowd, i think this is a smart move

>>61345163
kiara doesn't appeal to anyone lmao

>>61340791
Vtubing is just wrestling without the fighting. It’s all scripted and kayfabe.

Just the fatslob tactic.

>>61345190
My dick says otherwise

>>61338601
This tryhard training arc will lead to a rematch with Fauna which Kiara will throw producing more content to be milked for clips. You guys really need to start noticing how these girls build these "storylines" for content.

>>61344986
How to turn everything you wanna draw into a collection of basic 3d objects with volume is the first lesson in any serious drawing course. Not doing that leads to what is known as symbol drawing, which is a problem you'll see in pretty much any drawing made by someone who doesn't know what they're doing. You also need to think in 3d to do perspective and shading correctly.

>>61345277
>You guys really need to start noticing how these girls build these "storylines" for content.
you are overestimating their capabilities

>>61345317
This is the one thing they're good at.

>>61341005
Comments like this are funny to me. Firstly, because it's almost always newfriends saying it.
Secondly, because your typical pc gamer redditor probably knows more about this forgotten strategy game than the average 4channel vtuber enthusiast

>>61345277
If you tried to read or watch streams then you would know that Kiara is not interested in rematch or any other aoe tournament. She plays for herself now

>>61338601
>nooo you can't have a genuine urge to improve for a game that isn't apex or valorant! that's tryharding!
Zoomers are a doomed generation.

>>61345389
>why yes I take at everything at its face value and ignore context.

>>61345190.
>doesn't appeal to anyone lmao
story of your life

>>61345369
next you say /v/ doesn't actually know anything about vidya pft.

>>61345411
heh

>>61345407
That IS the context actually

>>61343847
She should learn the Korean tower rush.

>>61343847
the new hotness is the Spearman-Skirmisher feudal rush

>>61341178
Something like that can make Austrian to the point starting the 4th reich. She already has enough salt to be motivated

>>61345027
More restriction gameplay and demanding hardware requirement. Some cut content too

Sad thing is she's going to lose again

>>61339292
archers might've also done the trick
the elephants were slow as fuck and easy to kite
they were spazzing out like crazy too

the salt was entertaining though

>>61345624
how would that even work? spears only hurt cav and skirms are literally incapable of dealing damage, especially in Feudal

>>61345752
Don't underestimate skirms. They can kill a villager in just 40 hits.

>>61339477
God she's going to crash and burn so hard isn't she, losing the AoE2 rematch is going to completely mindbrake her. Sorry Kiara but IQ is a thing, no matter how much you train you will always lose to people who are smarter than you.

>>61340448
She seethingly suggested to randomize the civs next time

>>61339292
Definitely would have helped loads but ultimately the issue with Kiara and most noobs is they just do not produce enough units. You have a population of 200 for a reason you should be using ALL of it. By late game you need to have not 1, 2 or even 3 barracks but 10 or more. This is partially why war elephants were so effective they are a very strong individual unit they can win 1v1 vs anything, halbs are only a counter in terms of cost effectiveness so you need to spam them.

The girls should've played AoE4 instead. We would get a Kiara x Beastyqt collab instead, it'd be so fucking kino I can't even

>>61345801
Your IQ is so low, that you can't even read properly

>>61345794
>>61345752
The idea is that in Feudal skirms and spears can outrun anything that isn't a scout cav so you have free harassments.

>>61343129
Macro > Micro
Always.

>>61345914
>>61343129
This is why early game is all about the micro. You never want your enemy to be comfortable because deathballs can and will happen with any civ.

>>61340082
Mori still played SV a number of times after the tournament

>>61345389
Well they are cutting their dicks so, did you expect anything?

>>61343731
Just by virtue of being Korean Kronii could stomp them all if she got invested

>>61338601
How is no one here questioning if this is a tranny or not

>>61338601
Mommy issues.
Kiara's mom routinely makes fun of Kiara's awful gameplay (and probably crushes her in boomer shooters when Kiara is visiting). Kiara has finally had enough and is trying to get good at a game, any game, so she can impress her mom and beat her.

>>61345698
Read, nigga

>>61346074
Is that the question that enters your mind everytime you see a woman???
Absolutely mindbroken

>>61344616
Why are people upset over it being revealed that Fauna doesn't have a boyfriend?

>>61346240
dyrbi

>>61338601
always funny to see fauna destroy someone in a game

>>61346240
Kiara should really get a life if her response to getting stomped in a game is doxing, I hope Fauna is ok

>>61346240
I am Fauna's boyfriend, yeah me, unironically me, from Day 1 of her debut even.

>>61343731
Why did Moona even tell her to build it? That was the questionable part

>>61346080
Bad choice of games, then AOE2 is a boomer RTS. Her mom has probably been playing it for 20 years and will mog her at it.

>>61338601
Age of Empires II is popular again? Is this the power of vtubers?

>>61345698
Can't lose if she doesn't compete again!

>>61345801
Kiara makes post about screaming and crying when she isn't streaming. Basically, her crashing and burning will only affect her IRL. Streaming a ton is unironically her way of coping.

>>61339164
Easier for her to just pay a girl that plays it to teach her

>>61341968
why did you include me tho, I only said it would be hilarious if she loses again.

so this is like Forsen vs xqc but instead of speedrunning mc it's a boring strategy game

>>61346646
Nta but you got included because there is no next tourney

>>61338601
Where are my elephants?

-Fauna, Goddess of War

>>61339164
She could do that. Or she could get a collab partner to talk to because she is a streamer and entertainer, not a progamer.

>>61339164
She does actually
But cute girl!

>>61346593
No, it's the power of T90's mustache, Dave's oiled up bald head, Hera's juicy and plump ass and Memb's DE SPEED DE MOMENTUM AYAYA TATITOT NOT LAIK DIS

>>61338601
NO VTUBER DON'T MAKE LOSING AND IMPROVING IN VIDEO GAME INTO CONTENT! YOU LOST YOU DON'T GET TO LEARN ANYMORE STOP THIS!

>>61346519
Maybe she was betting that the others are simply too ADHD to read the DESTROY KRONII BEFORE THIS TIMER REACHES 0 OR LOSE THE GAME prompt

>>61338601
i like this autistic German part of her.

>>61346991
as someone who watches Mooner, the most likely explanation is that she wasn't actually thinking

>>61342211
I just can't work with the idea of people unironically paying to be coached in videogames, for me I either learn trial and error and slightly improve or never pick up on what I'm doing wrong and get bored and complacent with being mediocre, getting someone to coach me for something I can just play would hurt my pride but that's just me, I guess that's what sets apart people who end up going full Adderall filled pro-league play though... for me I'd rather be mediocre at a game I learned through my own experience than good at something I paid money to be taught

>>61340787
What is wrong with 'seeking revenge'? Did everyone forget Suisei 'petty tryhard' Hoshimachi exist? Or when Haato went on a sudden Tetris 99 stream spam all of a sudden once because she is determined to beat Suisei 'one day'?

Also I've always been interested in RTS but my brain is way too slow to keep up with the micro that happens, last time I touched AoE was downloading 4 for free and then trying the tutorials out, I had fun with Dawn of War even though the harder AI would eventually just stomp me

>>61346419
I always imagine everyone laughing about posts like this but just one actually being true and no one would believe it.

>>61346578
I bet her mom plays archer spam brits.

>>61347794
There's a difference between doing ir because it's fun versus me me me

>>61347794
It's ok when the japanese do it.

>>61347794
Because trying hard is cringe anon. Imagine putting in effort for anything lmao what a tryhard.

>>61347975
sounds like incel behavior is all

>>61347942
>me me me
Womanpost

>>61340105
god i wish more holoEN took games seriously, some of their JP counterparts seem to care about making a decent competition out of things

>>61347942
>>61339477

>>61345156
>non-myth
what's different about myths fanbases compared to the other two?

>>61348148
what did he mean by this

>>61347736
Some people do it because they want to improve at a game, but there are also the oddjobs who pay so that the coach gives them company. In a way, it's not so different from sending a red SC to a Holo and getting her to talk about you for a couple of minutes.

>>61347942
Suisei IS the embodiment of me me me. Although I have to admit Suisei actually looks good, charming and elegant at doing it

>>61348188
He would know if he read it

>>61348164
As KFP I would unironically go to war for teamates, takos, deadbeats and chumbuds, fuck all the others though.

> comparing talent incarnate to an actual whore
you don't know shit about Suisei, you don't even watch her
trolling

It's okay, Fauna will probably just watch a couple more T90 videos and that'll be more helpful than this coaching session

>>61338601
The only mindbroken ones are the trolls who came from other fanbases to shit on Kiara after she got elephant memed in a friendly competition. Why do you faggots always have to be obnoxious when it comes to PVP games? Learn some fucking tact. Be humble in victory and gracious in defeat. You're all insufferable.

Kiara has decided to distance herself from any more competitive matches with her colleagues because of how volatile some fans are when their oshi loses OR wins. She's having fun learning a game she enjoys and you don't even want her to have that. Despicable.

>>61348469
lmao loser

>>61348436
The whole thread tries to get catalog readers to understand Kiara won't do any more streams against other EN girls, but every 5 minutes a new retard comes in here.

>>61348164
NTA, but the fans of Promise pretty much live in their own little bubble and they don't really care for the rest of Hololive. When Myth joined, they were the first members in an entirely new branch, so they were more sought out by other talents as well for the sake of novelty, plus most of their fanbase came from EOPs who were watching JPs and IDs at the time so there was a significantly larger fanbase overlap with the rest of the fans.
Advent is nice so far, though, mainly because 4/5 talents collab with other gens and branches all the time while Promise talents just keep on creating content with each other almost exclusively.

>>61348436
She's got other things to watch rn desu

>>61347736
mostly I agree. but sometimes you're making one key mistake that massively holds you back, and having someone better watch you play can immediately point it out and make you much better, which is pretty fun.
It's basically like hiring a tennis coach or golf pro.

>>61347736
Why not? When i joined the gym i paid extra to have a trainer look over me the first week to make sure I don't do mistakes.
If you want to play football at a higher level you get a coach and don't just watch videos.
What is different about video games?

RTSchads, watch Onolumi until Kiara's stream starts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dzAn8RSv3s

>>61341680
Lies, seeing fauna malding at other chuubas when they're getting ROFLSTOMPED by an anon who went witch doctor mid would be peak kino

>>61348894
>original wc3
holy based

>>61349025
Isn't Fauna the Witch Doctor main?
And does Dota allow multiple people to pick the same champion?

>>61349151
She bought the original CD for it.

>>61348612
You're letting your insecurities show, mythkek

>>61338601
it broke kronii as well

>>61349208
No he is right, council is kind of like an incest fanbase. They only watch council streams, only want council collabs and shitpost and bait about everyone outside of council.
I guarantee 90% of the early shiori shitposting was councilkeks.
Just look at who is usually shitposting during Kiara, Mori or Ame streams. It's always brats, saplings or hoomans. Honestly I think everyone besides kronies is lost.

>>61349265
i kneel

>>61342782
>Nobody cares if a woman talks to a man, nobody would freak out.

>>61349329
That's some intense insecurity you're dealing with...

>>61339477
Jesus she is so fucking insecure

>>61349329
Are there any actual kronies left?

>>61349265
This retard can actually get good at the game and much faster than Kiara too, but I don't notice any drive from her yet. She aged up very quickly while being a completely new player to the game, and it was only the lack of knowledge on what to do after castle that doomed her. Her potential is the highest, but she needs to follow up on it.

>>61342154
She has a shit ton of male irl friends and is not a private or secretive at all

>>61348894
her first RTS game?

>>61338601
why aren't they playing the superior AoE4?

>>61340380
You mean the last collab? That was Moona's idea. ID has been playing AoE for a while

>>61349462
Not at all, she's finished RA2 + Yuri, TibSun, WC2 + expansion, Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds and a shitload of other games. Her niche is old PC games, a lot of which happen to be RTS.

>>61349517
ID girls might honestly be worse at games than EN.

>>61349520
that... almost mirrors what the Phase lumi has played, but like a whole generation behind lol

>>61349465
>superior AoE4
This HAS to be a shitpost

>>61349465
>superior
It has been done before however.

>>61339164
She does that already. A coach is useful for live feedback however, instead of reading dozens of comments in chat all telling her to do different shit.

>>61349614
I didn’t even know Lumi had drama until recently, if that wasn’t the case I honestly think she and Kiara would get along really well

holy shit who cares where's Supreme Commander? Where's Homeworld? Where's Generals Zero Hour?

>>61345277
FUCKING YES
This anon gets it. Jesus what the fuck is up with this thread, How long have they been watching vtubers (even fleshstreamers) and haven't noticed this.

>>61349957
what kind of drama, the /vt/ kind of schizo drama, twitter "yab" drama or actual drama?

>>61350008
>Where's Homeworld?

>>61350048
If you read the thread you would know that she isn't planning on playing against any en girls again.

>>61350008
>SupCom
Matoi Miia
>Homeworld
Kaneko Lumi and Onolumi
>Generals
Kaneko Lumi

>>61338601
What if Kiara convinces her to become a vtuber?

>>61338601
Bring back chess tournaments....

>>61348846
I guess some people just find the idea of a video game coach offensive to their gamer pride

>>61350271
She averages 180 viewers, so she would probably grow.
If she get's into the Shylily bubble she might even get big.

The twitter thread gave us this clip which i believe we hadn't seen before.

https://twitter.com/GGs_Liva/status/1717835857606909999

>>61340049
Who cares? this way is more fun

typical austrian

>>61338879
There's something extremely arousing about this.