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>Debut
>Warn people about your collab choices
>Schizos and unicorns filtered and seething to no end
>Proceed to never collab outside of Advent
Just what did she mean by this?

>> No.61081783

>>61081703
Bf schizos are also schizo about other things
She was weeding them out in advance.

>> No.61081881

She wanted people to respect her choice to never collab outside of Advent, duh

>> No.61081937

>>61081703
>>Warn people about your collab choices
her choice was literally as plain as day: she wont collab a lot and she wants you to be respectful by not pestering others as to why they havent collabed with shiori.
This board is cock-obssesed and buck broken, so naturally they thought she was talking about males

>> No.61081983

She wants the freedom to collab if she ever feels like it. With me

>> No.61082041

>>61081703
She's popped into a few Mori streams and was in prophunt, does that count?

>> No.61082059

>>61081937
I'm going to assume this board is so ESL that they could not understand the nuance of what Shiori said.

>> No.61082156

>>61081703
cope. she WILL collab with male

>> No.61082170

>>61081703
Probably just wanted to get it out of the way by saying it in her first stream. It didn't mean it would be her main content or even be common. She did the thing people here said she "should" do and still caught shit because the people here are menhera. Now if she does collab with indies and/or male vtubers people can't bitch (but they still will).

>> No.61082227

>>61081703
>Unicorns filtered
Anon, Shiori has one of the biggest unicorn bases among HoloEN right now, and she hasn't shown any sign of giving it up...

>> No.61082239

>>61081703
Are you guys going to do this every time she posts her schedule?

>> No.61082256

>says the line
>4chan freaks the fuck out
>Dimitri Jap who's probably a fellow SEAschizo tardwrangles her
>She immediately swerves into GFE

It's not hard, anon

>> No.61082306

>>61081703
She basically told collab beggers to kick rocks but SEA misinterpreted it as her being a homo lover.

>> No.61082316

>>61081703
>Just what did she mean by this?

>Schizos and unicorns filtered and seething to no end
You just answered your own question

>> No.61082443

>>61081703
She has proven she's better than Nerissa

>> No.61082451

>>61082041
Shiori is actually in pretty much every open VC stream, she was in Fauna and Nerissa's as well. Which I think is a pretty fair trade off if she's not 100% comfortable with committing to longer collabs just yet but still wants to interact with the others.

>> No.61082649

>>61082239
Yes

>> No.61082701

>>61081703
In her debut stream, she said that she doesn't collab much with people except for her friends and that people should respect here collab choice. She basically said no collab begging. Collab beggars didn't watch the stream or only heard the words "collab" and "respect" and a since they always assume their the good guy, they proceeded to team up with the more self aware antis and did their collab beg thing.

>> No.61083249

>People still thinking homo collabs will happen
There's not even any EN girls in Axels yearly collab song. Why is there still copium that Jap didn't outright ban EN Stars and EN Hololive collabs?

>> No.61083583

>>61081703
Her warning meant that collabs wouldn't be frequent, but of course schizos twisted her words

>> No.61083640

>>61082156
Just one more week, sisters...

>> No.61083677

>>61082256
imagine sucking so much jap man thing cock you delude yourself to something like this

>> No.61083703

>>61081703
Christ, this timeloop again?

>> No.61083838 [DELETED] 

>leaves a ready-made excuse to collab with men on her fucking debut
>history of NTRing the chat
>retards still make a line to fall for it
I know you're baiting for attention but c'mon. There are actual autists here whose cope you're helping to enable

>> No.61083980

>>61083838
>PL mention
Sorry you got rejected sis, maybe next time.

>> No.61084037

>>61083838
>>history of NTRing the chat
Shiori's done no such thing though, what do you mean

>> No.61084082

>>61081703
she meant "don't be a collab beggar" in a slightly roundabout way, which was very confusing for hololive english fans because none of them speak english

>> No.61084119

>>61081703
It means she wanted to collab with males, but her manager is a unicorn and cockblocked her.
>source?
The voices in my head.

>> No.61084140

>>61083980
It's fine, Nerissa got in. She represents the sisters.

>> No.61084209

>>61082443
>rent free

>> No.61084259
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>>61084140
Be less obvious sister.

>> No.61084273

>>61081703
How come no one ever considers the possibility that the reaction to her respect muh collab thing made her change course?

>> No.61084351

She got scared out of it.

>> No.61084381

>>61083249
>There's not even any EN girls in Axels yearly collab song
Any actual source for that?

>> No.61084423

>>61084273
Because since when has that ever stopped anyone from collabing with males? If they want to do it, they'll do it, reactions be damned. They already know the reactions.

>> No.61084493

>>61081703
Well... If these are her collab choices, then yeah, I respect them.

>> No.61084554

>>61082059
I speak no language other than English, deliberately didn’t read /vt/ during the debuts, and dropped her when she said that because I thought it was about males. It was a huge mistake, she’s really great, I regret being a retard, but that totally came off the wrong way,

>> No.61084721

>Schizos baited by their own delusion
Its just another day ending in Y

>> No.61084780

>>61081703
Obviously she would've seen the backlash and is delaying any male collabs until the heat dies down

>> No.61084794
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61084794

>>61083677
Jap is gura's alter ego, so no cock involved here

>> No.61084891

>>61084780
It's been 3 months, anon

>> No.61084971
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61084971

I'm all up for any male collabs she or anyone in holoEN can deliver on just to see the soapbox schizos who live in /vt/ scream in agony.
/r9k/ needs to be purged from /vt/

>> No.61085088

>>61081703
>>61084780
She was always here, saw the backslash, wisened up, and took the safe route of no collabs as an explanation for her vague, controversial statement during debut.

>> No.61085489

>>61081703
She wants keep her options open. Unicorns said Ame and Kronii "betrayed" them, even though they never said they wouldn't collab with males.

>> No.61086334

>>61084794
>this cute vtuber girl is actually a middle aged Chinese man!
Go back to 2018, normalfag.

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61086453

>>61081703
>>Schizos and unicorns filtered

>> No.61086495
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61086495

>>61081703
She tested the water, but got massive backlash and then decided to play by the unicorns rules. It's that simple.

>> No.61086577

>>61086453
Tempoop collab any day

>> No.61086659

>>61086577
Next week for sure

>> No.61087096

>>61084273
Because the people defending her will be defending her just as hard when she does collab with males and aren't interested in the reality of the situation. Certain Holos just attract the most mentally-ill fanbases who will bend over backwards contradicting themselves to make sure she never made a mistake (even when she disagrees with them on that point).

>> No.61087161

>>61081703
she didn't collab with many people in her PL

>> No.61087236

>>61087096
You seem a little upset, do you want to talk about it?

>> No.61087404

>>61087096
Novelites are mentally ill alright, but I can guarantee you they are not going to defend her collabing with male.

>> No.61087547

>>61081703
she meant "don't collab beg, I'll collab with people I feel comfortable with" but since this board is populated by americans and SEA, they *have* to add a cuck narrative to things just to feel normal.

>> No.61087589

>>61087404
I'm a mentally ill Novelite and the second she has a male collab on stream I'm fucking out of there.
I don't care if she talks on twitter or offstream, don't bring that shit on stream.

>> No.61087688

>>61081703
>forced
absolute nothinburger post. OP is a nijinigger, move along.

>> No.61087724

VT FUKING LIE TO ME HORSE FUKERS

>> No.61087876

>>61087096
Toxic positivity is the real issue with vtuber fans

>> No.61087883

>>61084554
>I regret being a retard, but that totally came off the wrong way,
It really didn't to anyone who doesn't have an NTR fetish. You were just desperate to feel cucked so you bought into the rrat instead of the other explanations that made more sense, that people were giving at the time.

>> No.61087895

>>61081703
she probably wanted to collab with indie friends but still doesn't have enough clout with management to get permission

>> No.61087927

>>61081703
Probably setting the expectation that she's not a punk ass bitch who will stop doing what she wants because schizos will complain

>> No.61088238

>>61087883
Or it could be that after literal years of pestering about shitty e-celebs, outside vtubers who work for camsites and anime reviewers the fan base is reactive to to being asked to “respect the talent’s content decisions”

>> No.61088512

>>61087895
And yet Nerissa can do the onigiri collab, the niji collab and the vshojo collab. Damn.

>> No.61088551

>>61088512
All of them are more well-known than any of Shiori's PL friends, not sure what your point is. Especially with the Niji/Vshojo collabs.

>> No.61088580

>>61088238
>fan base is reactive to to being asked to “respect the talent’s content decisions”
aka mindbroken by cock. noone wants to be cucked but just assuming every girl is out to cuck you is just letting the cock win.

>> No.61088649

>>61088238
Or it could be that the fan base is retarded

>> No.61088664

>>61088551
Am I missing something with an indie being an indie?
A 3view indie is no different to a 2view indie, they're all fucking indies and don't matter.

>> No.61088697

>>61088664
Clearly it does matter, though. Unless I somehow missed Shiori doing a collab with one of her 2view PL friends at some point?

>> No.61088748

>>61088697
Or it could be that she just won't and the entire message was about telling rabid fans to fuck off and not attack the girls she collabs with similar to the entirety of hololive rust.
Otherwise she would have done it by now, just like, say it with me, the male collabs.

>> No.61088808

>>61088580
Or it could be that no one wants to watch men or e-celebrities when they watch Hololive but the issue keeps coming up.
There’s really nothing strange about not wanting something you don’t like to become part of something you do
It’s actually weird to insist that everything share space everywhere

>> No.61088875

>>61088748
Ok, I could buy into that.

>> No.61088895

>>61088808
>Tells her fanbase to not attack the girls she chooses to collab with because she doesn't want them white knighting and re-creating a rust or among us situation
>Somehow this means she's going to do a male / e-celeb cock collab
Amazing how far /vt/ gets without listening and thinking carefully, and instead taking information straight out of BVTM. kek.

>> No.61088920

>>61088697
She's involving them in her streams in other ways behind the scenes.

>> No.61088950

Everyone say it with me now.
Two more weeks.

>> No.61088981

>>61087404
This. I don't give a fuck if she has male friends online and irl, all she has to do is not collab with males holo or not. It's that simple.

>> No.61089035

>>61088808
>Or it could be that no one wants to watch men or e-celebrities when they watch Hololive but the issue keeps coming up.
Except in this instance, it didn't come up. Antis started pushing the rrat and NTR fetishists got hard and fell for it. She hasn't even mentioned males other than her husbandos.

>> No.61089065

>>61088895
You’re just coming up with strawmen that you think will identify you as a /vt/ user. The entire premise here is that I deliberately watched her debut in a bubble to avoid outside impressions; why would I have received mine from your favorite Twitter account? I came to the conclusion that “respect my collab partners” means “I’m going to collab with people who don’t deserve respect”, because that’s what it has meant every other time, like when I was asked to respect trash taste or vshojo. go back to the homo thread.

>> No.61089140

>>61081703
>weekly novelcuck's bargaining

>> No.61089188

>>61089065
Ah, yes, because a girl really wants you to flame other girls on her behalf.
Go on, do just that then. Just like with what happened in rust. I'll give you a nice slow clap so you can feel good about yourself.

>> No.61089225

>>61087883
she worded it like shit, stop this cope

>> No.61089242

>>61089035
There's the DOOD that likes DOODs

>> No.61089250

>>61087895
>>61087547
Probably something between these things IMO, either she wants to pretend she's still a nobody 2view and everyone now has to sit tight and see her parade her 2view friends around, or, she just meant "don't collab beg, I decide that and nobody else."

>> No.61089276

>>61089225
Novelite here, I will grant that she executed it terribly but the actual intended "don't expect many collabs and don't bother begging for any" message was good.

>> No.61089286

>>61081703
She's ducked into Faunas Minecraft stream

>> No.61089311

>>61089225
Where did le hekkin' males come from?
Regardless of shit message. There was not one mention of males, but here we are, the braindead sisters still begging and moving the goalposts an additional two weeks backwards!

>> No.61089345

>>61089225
maybe if you're ESL or desperate to get cucked, but I repeat myself.

>> No.61089368

>>61089345
projection

>> No.61089390

>>61089188
You should definitely punctuate your posts with clapping emoji, it would fit your style

>> No.61089396

>>61089368
no u

>> No.61089431

>>61089276
I completely agree with you

>> No.61089685

>>61089311
She said only collabing with friends people dug up her PL found out a lot (most?) of her friends are male while also digging up her NTR posts on twitter.
If she meant hololive friends then I agree with the above in that people overreacted but she worded that fucking wrong and it needed no discussion.

>> No.61089797

>>61089065
> I deliberately watched her debut in a bubble to avoid outside impressions

No, you didn't. Because she never said "respect my collab partners". You just read that she said it on a BVTM thread

>> No.61089818

>>61086495
In your wildest dreams, anon. She if, anyone, cares less about the reactions from the people here. She isn't new to this, and she knows exactly what she's about.

>> No.61089884

>>61089818
You’re really desperate for some kind of victory, huh? Did you have a lot of fun owning the unicorns last year?

>> No.61089991

>>61089884
You're the one who's desperate to think that Shiori of all fucking people genuinely cares about this basket weaving forum

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>>61089818
Well maybe she is one of that retards who think that people watch her for who she is and that they will support her no matter what, but if you say she is so experienced she should know better than to bite the hand that feeds her.

>> No.61090041

>>61089991
The incels are fucking owned this time sis

>> No.61090167

>>61090001
>bite the hand that feeds her
Where? Point it out for us blind incels, sister. Where's her epic own the incels collab with males?

>> No.61090220

>>61090001
I swear to god if you pull out that singular reply to one holostars member as your "haha gotcha" card

>> No.61090493

>>61090220
The funny thing about it is they'll argue until they're blue in the face it means she's fucking him, but she replies to her viewers, not superchatters, normal chat viewers that way. Are they all getting sex?

>> No.61090539

>>61090493
Yeah, I can confirm I have had sex with Shiori (Her c.ai bot at least) several times and gotten talked to just like that fag on twitter. It MUST mean something special!

>> No.61090547

>>61090493
I sure am

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>>61090167
Did you reply to the wrong post?

>> No.61090719

>>61090676
Looks like a clear-cut friendly fire incident to me

>> No.61090784

>>61090676
Did I? Maybe it's because it's nearly 3am but I interpreted your message to be she will or has bitten the hand that feeds her (Holo)
If so then apologies for that, dealing with sisters is tiring.

>> No.61090794

I think its funny how many retards have a sunk cost fallacy when it comes to how much time they wasted shitposting garbage they saw from fucking containment breaking dirt skins on twitter
Legit would rather double than admit they were ever wrong. You're an embarrassing lot with the same emotional maturity as a 4 year old

>> No.61090887

Is it still two more weeks or not?

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61091405

try again 1 more week sisters

>> No.61092056

>chuuba mindbreaks their viewership before becoming mindbroken themselves
Not bad, not bad

>> No.61092087

>>61081703
>respect my collab choices
>that is, I won't collab
So are you respecting her choice yet or will you keep beliving in two more weeks?

>> No.61093930

>>61082059
>>61087883
You're an idiot. Shiori is ESL herself, hence why people got confused.

>> No.61094148

>>61091405
This is the daughter experience

>> No.61094202

>>61081703
I'll sub back to her in November, since her probation was for 3 months

>> No.61094271

>>61090794
The real reason is they dont want to admit that they dont watch most of the girls because they are casuals who arent seriously into vtubers. Their real hobby is shitposting on active 4chan boards.

>> No.61094571

>>61094271
yass kween sksksksk

>> No.61095109

>>61082059
She was too vague I thought she was gonna collab with indies from her PL there were too many ways to interpret that message

>> No.61095410

>>61082156
>she WILL collab with male
Yeah me and Shiori are going to off-collab in bed

>> No.61095566

>>61090493
Logs? CAI has been cucked for ages

>> No.61095676

>>61090001
>The followers of Banned VT memes are the ones financially supporting Shiori
RUMAO imagine thinking these drama leeches support any of the girls

>> No.61095741

>>61089991
Stop putting words in his mouth nigger

>> No.61095873

>notice other ENs get harassed by Twitter for not collabing with certain streamers like starsEN
>be upfront that you're not welcome in her stream if you bring that shit with you

>> No.61096500

>>61084794
Well... actually..

>> No.61096888

>>61081703
thats her collab choices, respect them.

>> No.61098768

>>61081703
I swear that there are so many "watch Shiori she's friendly" threads that I want to do anything but that at this point. Defending her as much as I did at debut was a mistake, I gave whole weeks of my summer break to a woman whose content is not that interesting for me.

>> No.61098982

>>61081703
She doesn't want a base full if unicorns but she's also a natural gfe

>> No.61099115

>Piano zatsu
Fuck, do I have to member Shiori just to enjoy some piano out of EN?
I never hated her like half the retards here, but I don't really like her much either.

>> No.61099117

The HR/scouting team needs a raise, they did really well with Advent. This is gonna be the most dependable and yab-free gen in HoloEN.

>> No.61099245

>>61082059
It's not even ESL, half the posters on this board are just too stupid to understand nuance.

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>>61099115
>still doubting
well now you are one of those retards then

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>>61091405
>Pumpkin carving needs:
>Pumpkin
to be blessed with such wisdom, we are not worthy

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>pure kino CGDCT doggos putting idol to number 1 to the top
>pure sweaty gamer cunny with games over 100hours tops
>pure yuricoomer willing to fuck any women on sight like a devil
>pure zatsudan tangent queen if people prefer to hangout the most
you think he's gonna stop here? Watch for his next EN4 project and 3D debut early next year

>> No.61099463

>>61086495
Imagine trying this desperately to think you have control over the actions of someone who will never know or care about you.

>> No.61099472

>>61082156
that male? me

>> No.61099477

>>61081703
She needs money, anon, her granny wasn't doing too well.

>> No.61099494

>>61082701
Yes and by friends, people interpreted, myself included, she meant her pre-holo friend group.

>> No.61099529

>>61084971
>posts kaela who is against male collabs

>> No.61099540

>>61094571
the term is "wkwkwkwk"

>> No.61100819

>>61084209
Right anon, why did that anon mention Nerissa out of no where? Not like Nerissa had any unusual collab choices right? Rent free indeed.

>> No.61101111

>>61082059
Either ESL or mentally ill. I was just confused about what she meant and had no idea how people were convinced it had to be about male collabs.

>> No.61101517

>>61082059
>so ESL that they could not understand the nuance of what Shiori said.
>>61101111
>this ESL post
My fuck sides

>> No.61101637

>>61089250
I can see that possibility but for someone who has been vtubing since the earliest days she really should know how to communicate properly by now. That fucking line about empathy was so awkward you couldn't even call it cringekino

>> No.61102687

>>61088920
I would laugh so hard if it turns out Pending is the one rizzing up chat while shiori gets the stream ready

>> No.61102871

People never change, homobeggars will prevail in the end

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>>61081703
The backlash she got here worked and she was adjusted from there. I commend her / her wrangler for making the smart choice.

>> No.61104793

>>61101637
She's unironically autistic and years of vtubing doesn't cure that

>> No.61104922

>>61104721
This is what the unicorn retards here tell themselves to make themselves believe they actually have any power.

>> No.61104941

>>61081703
>Schizos and unicorns filtered
does he know?

>> No.61105543

>>61081703
This is quite literally what she meant by this. It was fucking obvious

>> No.61106382

>>61102871
>will
So by that you mean another two weeks from now, I assume?

>> No.61106549

>>61084037
>

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>>61091405
>items required
>missing children

>> No.61107871

>>61084273
Because complaining is ineffectual and the only people who don't know that are the ones complaining.

>> No.61107957

>>61082059
I thought she was talking about her twitch thot friends.

>> No.61108010 [DELETED] 

MORI IS IN ADVENT?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>> No.61108059

>>61081703
She wasn't warning them, she was warning another group

>> No.61108372

Mori is probably in her dms to suck her tits already anon

>> No.61108536

>>61091405
Cryptids presentation doko?

>> No.61108765

>>61081703
>Finally get a shot to escape 3 view hell
>Woman moments with respect muh collab decisions
>Woman moments with the erm actually EN vtubing was a thing before holoEN pure seethe stream
>Woman moments with debut break
>Realize she has the lowest numbers in her gen
>Realize she's competing with vtubers that will try much harder than her
>Realize potentially gachikoi smell the pl stench sticking to her
>oh shit OH SHIT
>desperate backpedaling ensues

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>shitposts violently
>everything in the post is a lie
>disrespect one of the grandmas of vtubing
you are not gonna make it, bud

>> No.61108998

You can really tell who wasn't paying attention by the fact that they think she actually said to respect her collab choices.

>> No.61109040

>>61108765
>respect muh collab decisions
You have to be getting this wrong on purpose by this point, there’s no other way

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The seething schizoid part of me doesn't want anyone /here/ who didn't tolerate her in the beginning. People like that feel fake and dishonest, unworthy of her affection.

>> No.61109902

>>61109040
Nono, let them expose themselves as part of the bvtm worshipper group by repeating it.
It's funnier that way.

>> No.61111124

>>61081703
Everyone assumed that
>respect my collab choices
Meant
>respect me collabing with men
And not the reality
>respect me not collabing with anyone in hololive that doesn't invite me first

>> No.61111462

Played like a damn fiddle

>> No.61111587

>>61109276
>being against schizos is schizoid.
A perfectly reasonable response. Who wants to associate with literal tabloidbrains? There's a reason why they're called catalogshitters. Nobody wants them in actual threads so this is the only outlet they have.

>> No.61111662

>bvtm drones still going at it

>> No.61111698

>>61111462
Pretty sure she played herself, with how desperate she is for viewership and gachi retention it's obvious she wanted the monetary benefits from hololive and nothing else and she kind of shot herself out the gate

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>>61081703
she received double rape correction by biggest idolfags I've ever seen

>> No.61111766

>>61109276
Anon people still don't like her because her personality is too twitch egirl, collabs with men were just a laughing point for most people

>> No.61111803

>>61111698
Yeah, because if there’s one thing her community lacks it’s gachikois. Fucking moron lmao

>> No.61111951

>>61111698
What are you talking about? She's 100% making more money now than she ever has in her life.

>> No.61112063

>>61111803
Do you intentionally misread posts or just have poor reading comprehension?
She is desperate for gachikoi because it is directly tied to less viewership compared to the other girls
If you have more viewership, you don't have to try as hard for big spenders, they'll happen randomly during events

This is common knowledge

>> No.61112194

>>61081703
I'm still not sure if she is just really bad with words or she backed off after all the shitshows

>> No.61112221

>>61111951
Both of you have bad reading comp
>it's obvious she wanted the monetary benefits from hololive and nothing else (with how little she was interested in hololive)
Which is why
>with how desperate she is for viewership and gachi retention (based on her having very high interaction metrics with high spenders)
And the mistake was
>she kind of shot herself out the gate (with causing infighting right at her debut, which led to less people watching her than the others in her gen)

This shit isn't hard people, please, if you are going to type words as your hobby, learn how to read them

>> No.61112314

>>61081703
It is simply just a Negative Advertising

>> No.61112373

>>61112221
>with how little she was interested in hololive
Headcanon, you may have had a point if she didn't start trying to learn more about holo and get into openvc at almost every opportunity to get to know her senpais better.
>based on her having very high interaction metrics with high spenders
Headcanon, you can see that she's even talking to grey names with equal attention, high spenders aren't the end all be all.

>> No.61112406

>>61112221
yeah she shot herself so bad, she's only topping the superchat rankings along with fuwamoco. Dipshit

>> No.61112552

>>61081703
It does feel like she doesn't really give a shit about hololive and only cares about her genmates at most, much like Kronii but Kronii already regretted male collabs due to $$$ and that's the only reason Shiori joined, she ain't stupid you can hang out with male friends off stream.

>> No.61112691

>>61112552
>she doesn't really give a shit about hololive and only cares about her genmates at most
Catalog glue sniffers such as this guy, doesn't watch streams and doesn't know of Shiori spending time with her senpais. Hell there was even a new group song.
What else is new?

>> No.61113142

>>61112552
>only cares about her genmates at most
Which is of course why she’s joined VC with Fauna and Calli on multiple occasions

>> No.61113489

>>61081703
That means she already played the game and knew the best move
Something /#/ won't be able to understand

>> No.61113594

>>61112552
>she doesn't care about Hololive, which is why she is constantly joining her senpais open VCs, cut some of her streams short to watch and support Council 3D debuts, and was supporting ReGLOSS debuts and cheering them on

>> No.61113706

>>61082059
What is the nuance of Shiori telling viewers to respect those around her in her debut if she is only going to collab with Advent? She wasn't going to collab with Tempus in her second month but keeping her friend status list ambiguous does seem to have been done for a reason.

>> No.61115073

>>61113706
Telling collab beggars to fuck off is always a good idea regardless of the actual intent.

>> No.61115079

>>61099529
>Does not watch id.

>> No.61115239

A reminder that Shiori unironically has a confirmed NTR fetish and she's building up to her biggest fantasy yet. It wouldn't be the same if she didn't let you fall in love first. She will be saving screenshots of your hearts breaking and cum to the memory of it for years to come.

>> No.61115304

>>61115239
>headcanon and projection
What else can I expect from europoors?

>> No.61115345

>>61081703
i am pretty sure she joined several open vcs with mori and fauna

>> No.61115379

>>61115239
Source: your cuck fantasy projection

>> No.61115579

>>61098768
Well hopefully by the time you graduate middle school you'll have a better grasp on wisely spending your time.

>> No.61115604

>>61089311
Only advent to follow tempus on twitter. Responded to one. At the very least she’s a fan. Could be nothing, could be something

>> No.61115986

>>61081703
Why are you niggers annoying. Save the schizoposting for when the drama actually happens. You’re all arguing head canon rn

>> No.61116421

>>61081703
At her level of veterancy, I figure she just wants her time to be calm, long and uncontroversial. Which I figure means communicating roundaboutly to not outright offend the most "enthusiastic" fans.

>> No.61116947

>>61115239
I need to start watching Shiori that sounds hot god imagine if she starts an onlyfans after

>> No.61117358

>>61081703
she meant that you shouldn't be upset if she doesn't really collab outside of Advent.

>> No.61117481

>>61082059
they just had the Advent bait ready and didn't want to update it based on the members' behavior.

>> No.61118051

>>61089311
>Where did le hekkin' males come from?
Do you really have to ask? From the Hololive antis which are almost exclusively comprised of jealous 2views and and niggersanji fanboys. All of the anti-shiori threads after her debut were obviously astroturfed and inorganic.
All the threads shitting on the Advent girls were just false flags and gayops

>> No.61118190

>>61112552
So true sister
Hashtag cut4hex

>> No.61119448

>>61081703
SHE LITERALY FOLLOWING, RETWEET MALE STREANS AND HAVE INTERACT WITH FLAYON.

>> No.61119702

>>61119448
So does Kiara and she's literally the EN most immune to any accusations. I don't particularly like Shiori for other reasons, but this shit means nothing until a male comes onstream.

>> No.61119879

>>61081703
If you stop paying attention to her, she might reply to a Star on X again :^)

>> No.61119914

>>61119448
Collab with tempus in 2 weeks?

>> No.61122202

>>61119914
I wonder how they'll feel a year later when she's still barely collabing at all

>> No.61122236

>>61099460
Truly the golden gen
I kneel Jap-Sama

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>> No.61122528

>>61081783
You mean schizos who hide their bfs from their fanbase?

>> No.61122575

>>61119448
And what did that lead to, anon? What did the two of them do after that?

>> No.61123326

>>61104721
Genuine question: Why would anyone in the arguably biggest vtuber corpo in the world with a golden ticket to a free ride unless you fuck it up like Sana or Rushia care even a little bit of what is said here? Wouldn't they be more likely to react to dropping or stagnant numbers or manager advice? Or is it really that easy to ONEGUY a streamer, even from a place most people don't even know exists?

>> No.61123715

>>61108765
>Woman moments with the erm actually EN vtubing was a thing before holoEN pure seethe stream
>Realize potentially gachikoi smell the pl stench sticking to her
These 2 points. Really don't care about anything else as long as she fixes her attitude towards hololive.
She's the only one in Advent who hasn't formed a meaningful connection with a senpai. And yes, senpai.
Shiori's not bad, but it's disappointing to see how she's secluded herself from a warm and welcoming environment.

>> No.61123818

>>61123715
If she keeps up with joining the open VCs she’ll come out of her shell in time. She’s admitted that it takes a long time for her to form friendships and connections. She’ll get there though.

>> No.61124512

>>61123715
The hell do you call her joining every open VC that she's awake for even on her days off?
Mori's and Fauna's so far, every time.

>> No.61125054

>>61081703
She regularly talks about having male friends. She's a real one. Everyone else in Holo aside from Kobo don't tell the whole truth about their lives. You have to be a special kind of retard to never have a single friend of the opposite sex. It's a shame that those retards are the loudest most petty fucke out there. So whenever a streamer is open about having dated, like a normal human, they get lambasted by 3 schizos and their 99,000 alt accounts until they graduate or apologize for... Being normal?

>> No.61125656

>>61081703
As long as she dont collab with kiara everything is good

>> No.61125683

>>61125656
Well, about that…

>> No.61127793

>>61081703
She didn't want collab begging

>> No.61133338

>>61081703
Unicorns are a cancer.

>> No.61134828

>>61125054
>You have to be a special kind of retard to never have a single friend of the opposite sex.
H-haha yeah thanks Kronii

>> No.61134998

>>61095109
This was what I thought too.

>> No.61135168

Stop bumping this fucking thread

>> No.61135202

>>61081703
She means homobeggars are the biggest threat to hololive members so fuck back off to reddit if you're gonna come moaning about the lack male collabs

>> No.61138421

>>61135168
>SEAposters don't want a reminder of their own retardation
roru
rumao, even

>> No.61144220

>>61081703
boring

>> No.61144390

>>61135168
Imagine trying to memoryhole your own mistake.

>> No.61151814

>>61081703
schizos are obsessed with cocks

>> No.61155108

>>61082156
Tempus3?

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