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>cute af
>plays buff games fairly often
>collabs with other girls often
>gets plenty of clips
She has all the elements needed for big numbers, but for some reason, people don't watch her as much. Why is that?

>> No.6096743

Voice

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>>6096743
is cute af, like I said

>> No.6096793

>>6096671
Her voice filters people.

>> No.6096809

>>6096671
She filters npcs hard, also she is kinda difficult to understand for JSL

>> No.6096839

>>6096671
Baby voice and she takes a lot of time off.

>> No.6096923

>>6096671
>40 year old hag
>stays in charaacter all the time (allegedly even offline)
>her character is a child
>the child is not erotic and doesn't do anything to bait the pedos

That's pretty much it, no wonder she was bullied out of niji

>> No.6097139

People only want the GFE and her voice filters a lot of people. You have to have no sex drive and be desperate for a surrogate daughter to love Luna.

>> No.6097211

>>6096671
both english and japanese don't understand her

>> No.6097231

>>6097139
Not wanting a Daughter/Wife, plebeians

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I was filtered at the beginning but I saw the light after the Metroid streams.

>> No.6097818

The numbers dropped when she started speaking on the Coco graduation. The that 'translated' her baby language made it extra cringe.

>> No.6098082

>>6096671
I'm not a fan of the baby talk.
She's also significantly harder to understand because of it.
Following that, she doesn't have any content that strongly stands out to me as a reason I should watch despite those reasons.

>> No.6098352

>>6096923
>>the child is not erotic and doesn't do anything to bait the pedos
Haha, yeah right.
I mean, you'd have to be a degenerate to want to lick Luna's tiny body until she 'naaaaa' from pleasure. Haha.

>> No.6098896

>>6096923
her collabs are of then the greatest

>> No.6099237

>>6096671
>no subtitles

>> No.6099279

>>6096923
>the child is not erotic and doesn't do anything to bait the pedos
She does though and even complained that nobody is taking her bait.

>> No.6100177

>>6096923
>the child is not erotic
https://youtu.be/onYOYxXcyzA

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>>6096671
IMO it's the art. Her concept art/design is really great, but the art execution is not really that great. How to say it...it's a bit, cartoonish? I've seen some of her fanarts that made her looks more anime-styled with better proportion etc, and it just looks much more better. Anyway, yes, design is a really crucial element and plays a huge role in vtubing career. Just see Ayame.

>> No.6100372

My first oshi and still number 1 for me. But i understand why she filters out a lot of people. She's still averaging around 5k+ consistently. While it's not that great by holo standard, it's actually a good number considering the niche.

>> No.6100400

>>6096671
Because she has boobs, thus no true cunny

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Speak for yourselves. I jerk off to her hag room-mate every night

>> No.6102150

>>6096671
Because even JOPs need fucking LiveTL to understand her.

>> No.6102478

My oshi. People just need to be Luna pilled. She is the best I love her so much. Her streams are always so chill and fun and a good time. Loyalty to Luna!

>> No.6102863

>>6097139
>You have to have no sex drive
i do have anon, but it's in the right track, i don't need power or advantage fantasies with lolis or underage characters to feel secure and have an erection, a more mature holo like Mel, Choco or Lamy could work fine for me, still Luna is my favourite.

>> No.6103346

>>6096671
She gets similar median viewer number to people with slightly more subs. Like Flare ,Towa and 5th gen. The acceptable range. If you are worried about subs she just needs to be a little more active. She needs exposure. Hopefully that will come. I am not too worried about Luna, I hope Luna isn't worried either.

>> No.6103811

I really like Luna but her appeal is naturally niche. She has no interest in GFE (other than arguably her piano streams) and the baby voice is a turnoff for a lot of people, including JP speakers. She is moe in the sense of wanting to protect her from the world, so her fans being dubbed the Lunaitos is fitting.

>> No.6106225

>>6100177
that's not erotic though

it's the kind of talk that when you hear from a child just makes you go "awww"

she's too seiso, she needs more dick-teasing talk

>> No.6110180

I think she's fun. She's doing fine.

>> No.6110248

>>6096671
kys numberfag

>> No.6110732

>>6096671
i personally rate her as an s tier chuuba, but i can see why many people don't like her. the voice is a hard filter, but even after that, she always seems like she is playing a character. obviously they all are, but just talking about how their day was and stuff like that can make it seem more real.

>> No.6110740

Luna is not a numberfag. She could have capitalized on many things till now if she cared so much about numbers. She could have leeched Subaru and did more Anemori. She is getting 5k+ viewers which is perfectly fine.

>> No.6110808

>>6110732
this, also her streams seem to be kind of irregular. If you want to get big you have to have a predictable and consistent schedule, preferably daily.

>> No.6110816

>>6110732
she does talk about herself tho if people actually watch her streams. Her late night club stream, she talked a lot about herself. On her piano stream too she talks a bit sometimes.

>> No.6110825

>>6096671
>NAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

That's why.

>> No.6110848

>>6110808
anon.. she streams more than some holos even when she had to undergo her surgery..

>> No.6110917

>>6110848
the past few months she’s been inconsistent to take care of her mom which is understandable. she is a queen and can take all the time she needs. protect luna at all cost!

>> No.6110980

>>6110917
personally I think she is fine with her numbers. She has well behaved chat too which is always a good thing.

>> No.6110987

>>6110970
You're thinking of Aqua.

>> No.6111008

>>6110970
>believing what retards says about her based on 5ch rrat

>> No.6111059

>>6096671
fair? FAIR?! don't you-

>> No.6111334

>>6096671
even japanese can't understand her much less EOP

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>>6096671
not even best daughteru

>> No.6111507

>>6096923
Luna is not a hag

>> No.6111914

>>6100368
Fuck you I love Hime's default outfit.

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>>6111391
Stop it! They love each other

>> No.6112025

When I found out the hag narrative was false a few months back, I was disappointed. Why would you people spread rumors like this?

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>>6096671
I watch game streams mostly and a lot of the games she plays does not appeal to me and many of her streams aren't video games. She likes to do commentary or random sounds during cutscenes, this wouldn't be a problem if her mic volume wasn't louder than the games. In her solo streams she can very easily go overboard with her baby persona, this character trait is annoying but can also be very entertaining when she's collabing with other hololive members that keep her in check, so I want her to drop it but at the same time not.

Personally I think I would enjoy her solo streams more if she acted more like her former depressed and degenerate character, her voice was the same but without the energetic baby facade.

>> No.6112163

I liked her more when she was like a comedian, pretending to be baby when adult topics comes up. She’s still my favourite for staying in character at all times

>> No.6112279

Just like Marine, her voice makes me want to punch her or I'm gonna lose it

>> No.6112514

>>6112279
clipfag

>> No.6115888

>>6096671
I used to be into Luna but desu i dislike heterochromia and I don't really rember any good inside jokes besides hot dogs. Idk after the painful start to FE 3 houses I kinda lost interest. Maybe if she changed her gimmick to being a bit more himedere she could be more popular but for now her voice filters to many new comers and she doesn't have enough to make others stay

>> No.6115943

Because I agree with Marine, she has a punchable voice and a punchable face.

>> No.6115979
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>>6096671
There was reason why Moruru was never popular in Nijisanji.

>> No.6115994

>>6096809
>You're an NPC if you can't tolerate retarded baby noises.
Nanora is a one trick pony and her voice is even worse than Kiara

>> No.6116021

>>6115979
>Switch companies
>Keep using the same gimmick

>> No.6116048

>>6112279
marine can make me cum with her voice alone

>> No.6116089

>>6098352
>>6099279
>>6100368

I agree, I like loli but something about her design plus her actions move past cutesexy anime loli and into the realm of dumpy preschooler

Her new outfit is way better and I would look for porn of that one

>> No.6116113

>>6115994
Look at this NPC

>> No.6116184

>>6097818
what

>> No.6116211

>>6116021
I say Luna is more compatible with her kayfabe unlike Moruru.

>> No.6116293

>>6096671
>Never ever panders to EOP
There you go.

>> No.6116344

>>6116293
Are you fucking serious? Her chat has more EOPs than most Holos and she reads English comment quickly

>> No.6116354

>>6116293
ogey
https://youtu.be/VUfW6M2EPeg

>> No.6116500

Luna:
>is sharper than she lets on, especially during collabs where her she can catch people off guard with her wit
>has an affinity for movies and will often cutely quote her favorites or hum her favorite music from them
>knows how to have fun with her Live2D
>has one of the best superchat reads
>is known to support her crazier friends when they need advice
>has a very methodical approach to playing and beating games that makes her entertaining if you can understand her and give her a chance
>is on par with Pekora in maintaining her character
>will power through horror games despite being terrified of them
>remembers who regularly sends her superchats
>found her niche in practicing piano and expresses believable joy in playing it. Usually doesn't want to stop when she knows she's been playing too long.
>Her 神ED is also produced by Kanzaki Hiro
Only Plebs gets filtered by Luna's voice and I doubt Luna wants those in her fanbase.

>> No.6117147

>>6116500
>lists shit most other holos do
>but without having to sit through her shitty acting and annoying voice
Wow, I sure am upset that I got "filtered"! How will I ever recover?

>> No.6117358

>>6096923
>(allegedly even offline)
You didn't watch the yacht tourney, did you?

>> No.6117418

>>6116293
You don't even watch her.

>> No.6119869

>>6096923
>>40 year old hag
she's like 25

>> No.6120529

>>6115994
Do not be silly.

>> No.6122209

>>6112085
>Personally I think I would enjoy her solo streams more if she acted more like her former depressed and degenerate character
no thank you, just stay away

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>>6102478
This. I think she just flies under the radar for a lot of people. She just needs more clippable moments like pic related

>> No.6122641

>>6096671
if you really like Luna, you wouldn't make a thread like this, she is perfectlly fine with her fanbase and her SC income, the people that ends up passing the filter by chance or their own means are ok, you don't want to advertise her so a lot of shit mundane plebs like 80% of the retards in this thread, that have 2nd opinions from clips comments or from filtered faggots, the Monster Hunter Rise streams brought a lot of subhumans that nobody wants, don't make the same mistake.

>> No.6122751

>>6096671
Loli personality and voice doesn't work outside of a loli body, she is just annoying

>> No.6122860

She barely streams Minecraft
https://youtu.be/ttZwDhhST4k

>> No.6123725

>>6096671
Idk but I've been watching her alot this few month thanks to my oshi's 'indefinite hiatus'

>> No.6125385

>>6116089
It's the artist. Not even asanagi wants to make rape porn of eromanga-sensei

>> No.6130204

>>6096671
Only females watch her

>> No.6130293

>>6096671
Majority of people have shit taste

>> No.6131159

>>6096671
Take meds OP, she's pulling 8k concurrent views just recently with the electone streams.

>> No.6131207

>>6096671
She is a babbling baby retard and doesn't reveal much about her true feelings often so its hard to grow a parasocial attachment to her.

>> No.6131447

>>6131207
Except for baby retard part, this comment is kinda true. Hime doesn't talk that much about her personal life, there isn't much drama, so it takes time to get attached to her

>> No.6131501

>>6096671


80% of numbers is first impressions, and (14)88% of first impressions is character design, and a lot of people are filtered by the teenybop look and baby voice and '0 years old' shit.

>> No.6132316

>>6096671
I was filtered by the fairy tale princess theme shit

>> No.6133523

Because EOP

>> No.6133781

>>6096671
Voice is cute in clips and I wish her well but it's just not for me when it comes to a whole stream.

That said, she's got her gimmick, she's doing exceptionally well in the scheme of things, I hope she is happy.

>> No.6133786

>>6096671
too much roleplay

>> No.6134094

Luna is not a loli. Luna is not a cunny.

>> No.6134157

>>6096671
She's inclining slowly and very consistent with numbers.

>> No.6134180

>>6096671
Because she play on fucking easy like a fucking scrub.

>> No.6134243

>>6116344
She only has 15% non-jp chat. Not only that, her non-jp chat also doesn't sperg as much as others.

>> No.6134263

>>6119869
No one really knows if she's 26 or 36, could be a mistake from her part of she just changed because she's in denial of her age, or thinks being younger is more appealing to the audience, on her roommates way back.

>> No.6137087

>>6134263
>No one really knows
she adressd the 5ch rrat posted by her antis, on her roommate account, she is in her 20s

>> No.6137513

>>6096671
She has low numbers But i can see her having one of the longest carrer with her niche appeal

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>be me
>only know japanese from anime
>still watch luna hime stream
>she said something then laugh
>i laugh
Luna give the cute spoiled daughter experience. This filter men who didn't have paternal instinct aka men with low sperm count.

>> No.6139568

>>6131207
>>6131447
t. more people who don't watch Luna pretending they do

>> No.6140330

The best baby.

>> No.6140411

Luna fan here. I don't care what age she is, but did she not have some sort of hand injury that is typically seen in people aged 35+? Not to mention her general sense of taste strikes me as someone that is over 30...

>> No.6140645

I didn't like her at first but she really improved in 2021 and became really entertaining to watch. Now I love this dumb babby.

>> No.6140718

Get you a girl who can

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKDg1zygmbc

>> No.6140751

>>6140718
Do both

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbcshJV9ebA

>> No.6140839

Is Luna a friendly girl in real life? (e.g. room-mate)

>> No.6140951

>>6096671
Her voice and character
I forgot i wasn't subscribed to her until the C-chan's graduation, and i don't think i could stand her for more than the 3 minutes on average that i see from her clips

>> No.6141063

>>6137513

She stands out. That's only going to be an asset as this thing becomes more saturated. Not to my tastes but that's not the point.

>> No.6145009

>>6140839
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwDX8YfiNDU

>> No.6145895

>>6140839
No she's unreasonable and forces her friends to gift her sweets.

>> No.6147843

>>6145009
The thing about the bath killed me. Just imaging someone coming over to my house and demanding a bunch of shit makes me laugh so hard.

>> No.6147926

>>6147843
Although the beginning confuses me. It seems like Subaru insists that Luna take a bath. Is this normal in Japan? Whats going on here

>> No.6148021

>>6147926
Guessing with it being a clipped video it sort of jumps around a bit and the person is picking out 'the funniest moments' of the retelling. Beyond that, you never watch trashy anime before? Inviting a guest over for the night means you just gotta let them take a bath at some point.

>> No.6148282

>>6140751
I want to tune into piano streams once she really starts to get into it. Right now it seems like most of them are just her playing the two or three songs she knows that are memes with her fans. It excites me that there may be a live piano playing vtuber and it really makes me wanna stop being EOP

>> No.6148592

>>6147926
It's normal before sex

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>>6096671
I don't think you should ask this question as many retards on /vt/ doesn't even watch chubbas and just come here to bait and talk about drama. You can see by many of these replies that they are just clipfags EOPs who got into Vtubers after EN because of shark.

>> No.6149594

>>6096923
>stays in charaacter all the time (allegedly even offline

Until Haachama starts making takoyaki.

>> No.6149691

>>6149594
that was not breaking her character

>> No.6149823

>>6140411
good that makes my wife the same age as me, more or less.

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Why is there a whole thread of pepople who pretends to watch Luna but actually don't? Literally 90% of this thread is wrong, the rrats, the roomate stuff, all wrong, and its not even a secret if you are her member, she's pretty open there when she needs to.
She's happy the way she is now, she doesn't need "numbers" nor your pity, she stated in membership already she's staying for a very long time.
I can't wait to get the crown

>> No.6150153

>>6116293
She made her latest membership emotes in English specifically for the EOP crowd. If you were a member you'd know this.

>> No.6150219

>>6096923
>>her character is a child
Reps onegai retardchama. She has openly asked for lewds before protesting she is not a 'baby'. That's other people imposing that on her.

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>>6096671
i can't understand her at all. like, i get it, i'm going to have difficulty with any jp -- i don't know enough japanese. but with her it is a lost cause.
i like her but i can't pick up any vocab or test my understanding of japanese.

>> No.6150767

>>6150008
based
kys numberfags

>> No.6154061

>>6145009
https://youtu.be/Ah4-QLajCQs?t=407

>> No.6156554

>>6150219
Neither of those things make her not a child, and a sexy one at that

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>>6145009
>>6154061
So.... did they fuck?

>> No.6158070

>>6137087
that's weird since her previous online persona has been active for several years (~10y)

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>>6122389
that was a nice stream

>> No.6158792

>>6096671
Luna's simply built different.

>> No.6159004

>>6096671
The voice can get annoying after a while.

>> No.6161943

>>6096671
Her Piano and Monhun streams are the best.

>> No.6169694

>>6096671
Her design doesn't stand out enough, maybe.
People keep saying baby voice but that seems to be good for views for anone else.

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Why is the board so focused on the numbers?

>> No.6170110

>>6158070
20s in twentysomething shizo chama

>> No.6170169

>>6158070
an this year will be 9, 10 would be next year

>> No.6170406

I rarely watch luna, but classical music BGM + her voice helps me relax. I don't even need to understand what she saying

>> No.6170938

>>6158070
she could've started at 16, account lasts up to 25. So she's 25-26 like people said. Nice brain

>> No.6171053

>>6096923
What if you don't watch Vtubers for erotica? Barely any of them do anything sexy on stream.

>> No.6171098

>>6170406
>classical music BGM
It's always the same fucking MIDI Brandenburg concerto, and it's not even the entire concerto, it's the same 4 bars on loop.
MIDI classical music is a sin, but on top of that, it's tha same bars of the same piece of loop. It gets me suicidal. Like holy shit.

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I believe she needs to create a persona beyond her appearance.
Pekora was a rabbit at first, then became a comedian comitting war crimes.
Marine was a pirate at first, then became a horny wannabe forever 17 yo etc
Coco was a dragon at first, then became a shitposting, news presentator Yakuza Boss.
Luna is just a baby princess, that's it, if she start to create a persona like she was some highly ultra powerful princess with multiple light knights at her service like pic related she would become way more appealing. Thinking about Mio's stand or Fubuki's multiple personalities.

>> No.6171651

>>6171333
cool art. But your ideas are retarded.
Pekora would've become a comedian even without playing minecraft, that's her personality, the longer you stream for the more your real personality comes in.
Marine is actually annoying as fuck in her horny rants. Also iher 17 shit is cringe as fuck since she's on the younger side of holos.
Coco was a shitposter from day 1. If you think any of these girls would've been different if they had a different design, or if they played different games then you are retarded.
But cool picture

>> No.6172125

>>6171651
thank you for telling me i'm wrong but also that Luna has no personality because that was ultimately the point

>> No.6175600

>>6171333
>>6172125
What are you even talking about? Pekora is still the same character since her debut, the only thing that changed about her is she's not as hyperactive anymore like she was in her old 3D streams.
Luna staying in character delivers a flare of uniqueness to see her react to certain things that you wouldn't from the average Holo. I rather have her act as she is right now instead of "normie girl vtuber #1001" like Roboco, Mel, Flare, etc. just because you think she's better that way.

>> No.6176219

>>6175600
anon don't try to convince anything to retards here at /vt/ about Luna. They are no better than ledditors when it comes to her.

>> No.6176267

>>6172125
Marine and Coco's personality is hot garbage and makes me dislike them. I don't understand how you can't see I was criticizing you for liking them

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>>6171333
Luna is perfect the way she is, she doesn't need to change herself to pander commoners, unlike other fans wanting to give their oshis more exposure, you can spot the luknights wanting undeserved peasants to stay away and filtered.
>>6116500
>>6122209
>>6122641
>>6137814
>>6139568
>>6149474
>>6150008
>>6171651
they want to gatekeep and preserve the good things

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