/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>60827284
how about her membership?
any news there chumbuds?

she just didn't feel like going to work today, but dozens of times in a row

>>60827527
Nope

>>60827284
I get the burnouts and shit but she should atleast have some goals in or out of hololive.
What kinda life is that doing nothing while your genmates are working hard.

>>60827284
She will literally stream soon during the big hololive event. chill. she will most likely return after that

>>60827527
No.

>>60827674
probably 2-3 streams before leaving again considering that its almost december after that event.

>>60827284
i do what i can
when i can

>>60827735
>i do what i can
>when i can
why she cant...

>>60827813
because she can't

>>60827284
Gura is cute.

>>60827284
stop being entitled chud

>>60827664
she already achieved all her listed goals

Remember when people were bitching because she was overlapping Advent and telling her to stop streaming? You got your wish.

She'll be back once EN 4 debuts.

>>60827284
Advent is overrated and it shows
she won

I have heard from a totally reliable source on the basis of zero evidence that gura is fucking dead

so I will believe that until I know otherwise

>>60827674
>she will most likely return after that
lol, lmao even.

>>60829531
>holo vs holo
Something embarrassing happened in nijisanji again?

>>60829339
>nooo don't call out my oshi's scummy grifter behavior stooop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k3vLUWIbfo

I still can't hate the lazy shork

>>60827284
83% chance she is pregnant.

>>60830044
same
I don't think about her at all though, but still would be nice if she came back

>>60830083
>83% chance
Show all your calculations, estimates and predictions and how you ended up with 83%.

>>60829339
Yeah, I also remember how people were predicting she would dip and go right back to ghosting once Advent debut buff was done and all the braindead chumniggers would argue til they were blue in the face that it wasn't true, Gura was back for real this time, Fwmc revitalized her idol spirit, etc

>>60827284
she is lazy alcoholic whore that found out that you can make money because someone else is pushing merch of you and it is not related to streaming because bumchuds are braindead

>>60829909
Bijou - desperate whore who was willing to leech off Iron Mouse for some bread crumbs
Nerissa - has already collabed with niji
FuwaMoco - Pomu-lite (narcissistic self-loathing adult child)
Shiori - worse than the average niji girl

If you hate Nijisanji so much please at the very least uphold that ideology

>>60829967
You just don't understand Youtube algorythms.

Gura is still the gateway for tourists (those outside of Hololive fans). She streamed a week before the debuts (even with her superchats turned off). To help bring in the tourists...all of HoloEN's numbers increased too. And was encouraged to stream during the debuts to keep them coming. When was the last time HoloEN had over 65k concurrent viewers? And you can see it drop noticeably on the two days she didn't stream.
You've got much to learn about how the system works. When Gura returns, so will other HoloEN's numbers increase, as shown with all her breaks.

>>60830656
>Gura keeps HoloEN her hostage

>>60830779
They need to learn to bring in tourists without her.

>>60830656
Chumcucks don't watch anybody but gura

>>60830857
>Chumcucks don't watch anybody but gura
While mostly true, she also attracts tourists. Why she can get more new subscribers than those streaming.

>>60830855
Gura is too likeable, good luck finding someone as dumb and funny as her.

>>60830857
The stats don't lie, retard.

>>60830291
right on sister

Just find other vtubers, dude. You'll be happier. I made that choice about a year ago when all of EN went on hiatus for months without saying why. Now, I have about 7 Indies that I switch to every time my HoloEN members decide to go MIA for weeks/months on end. Surprisingly, hololive streamers actually suck. Not because the streamers suck, but because Cover doesn't let them do anything cool/fun.

>>60831223
I was like you once. Eventually, you'll break too. Eventually, no one will be left to defend her.

>>60827284
Real idols don't waste their time streaming.

>>60831299
Kys.

>>60829339
Someone speculated that those overlap streams were intentionally ordered by management. She's the most subbed holomem with a decent reach among casual vtuber fans. By streaming at the same time as the debuts she's effectively diverting eyes back to hololive at the time they are launching a new product. Out of the schizo rrats posted this one actually makes sense as a business move.

>>60831299
>Just fall in love with someone else
fuck off and die pls :3

there are 4 billion women on earth but gura made me become a lifelong widow at the tender age of 18, god will have to beg for my forgiveness

dislike her or love her you gotta admit she's the pinnacle of what chuubas should aspire to
>talented voice actor (every Gura funny moment is anime worthy)
>talented singer
>talented comedian
>talented dancer, even Kiara admitted that
>talented artist (designed Scout live on stream)
>talented idol (highly charismatic winsome girl)
>not a bitch
>is a tradwife (literally obsessed with farm-to-table cooking)

>>60834079
>she's the pinnacle of what chuubas should aspire to
I'd like my chuubas to stream though.
Your oshi is just a dime a dozen lazy e-girl that does the least amount of work possible. Stop putting her on a pedestal, it just encourages her to put in even less effort.

>>60829421
more like EN 6 lol

>>60827284
She's joining vshojo as senzawa

>>60834189
The period of covid lockdowns is over sister. I'm just being grateful for her past stuff here

death to all bandwagoners

>>60827284
I had an epiphany about Gura. If you're gonna play hooky like she does, you HAVE to go dark on social media as well. If she did keep in touch, the comments under every post would be "stream?", and ignoring all of those would look worse than the current situation does.

pregnant with my son, we still have creampie sex every night, no time for streaming

>>60834922
no... you can just say "not streaming for a few weeks" and then people won't ask. that's exactly how it worked last winter. it doesn't look any worse to say you're not streaming if you're already not going to steram.

The longer Gura is gone, the more I worry.
I hope she got married or something, instead of it being health-related.
No need to explain.

>>60834922
>and ignoring all of those would look worse than the current situation does.
No, it really wouldn't. If she was gunna leave for 1-2 weeks sure, but if it's getting to the point where drama tubers are making vids, her anniversary stream has doubled in comments since it happened and they are mostly anti comments, her manager's merch shill retweets are getting called out in the open, there was like 3 reddit threads on the main hololive reddit in a week where a bunch of people were calling her lazy, and a scammer, and saying she's lying about being sick, that she doesn't care about her fans, and getting upvoted for it. Like at this point everything with her name on it is radioactive.

>>60835409
You would think that Cover would at least care their own IPs image instead letting it become hated

>>60830656
This logic seems fishy to me.
Advent numbers actually went up on 8/3 excluding Shiori, which judging by the title I'd chalk up to people not being able to stay up on a Tuesday night for a "stay up late with me" stream.
Also consider that FWMC's viewers actually went down on 8/4 (counting a girl's first karaoke is unfair for this study imo so I ignore Shiori again)
And then all Advent excluding Nerissa went up on 8/5 when Gura didn't stream.

Next, if she was truly trying to bring in tourists for Advent she would've streamed more leading up to debut and less during their debut. Instead she did the opposite (>>60829967). And for that matter I don't believe a new holo gen needs any outside help at all because of brand recognition/popularity. It'd be (expected, but) more than enough if Gura told her fans to go check them out instead of streaming over them.

>>60835409
She can never be a scammer since she never begs for anything. All other accusations can be viewed as positive because it indicates that Gura is of quality. Also in order to validate their dissatisfaction, they have to become literal Cover antis first and at that point they would be something akin to the nijinigs. Those fags will never win lol

>>60834079
Your trad wife sees you once a month.

Who is she servicing the other 29 days

>>60827284
Last year she streamed all of October.
I was assured that she will this year as well.
She is going to have a such a busy time next week

>>60836015
>She can never be a scammer
Scammers don't typically beg, they manipulate you into giving them money, they make you believe you're going to receive something that you don't end up receiving, like when she teased member streams in August several times before not delivering, and only doing 1 members stream in the last 5 months.

>>60836413
>29
learn to count retard

>>60836894
>they manipulate you into giving them money
Gura is doing the opposite retard, All scammers want you to like them or pity them. Turn people into gullible idiots that will never question you anything. that's the only rule, period. Take Nina for example:
>holds a 22 hour graduation stream
>lots of sob stories and sad moments
>then reincarnates as a VShojo member

not everyone thinks money is all that matters like you, stop projecting

>>60827284
The Ayame of EN.

>>60837920
>Turn people into gullible idiots that will never question you anything.
So, like chumbuds?

>>60827664
Downing vodka

>>60837920
Ah yes, Gawr "I asked my mom to play MK with me while I was dying from covid because I have no one to play with" Gura, totally not exaggerating her loneliness to appeal to losers.

>>60840168
No way she said this and people actually believed her…
Do people not know?

>>60838488
Don't be mean to Ayame like that.

>>60840293
They can't know if they choose to convince themselves that Gura can do no wrong. Many Chumbuds did.

>>60830857
>>60835990
literally just spend an hour or so reading up on targeting algorithms or shut the fuck up.

>>60840168
>couldn't find someone with the same time zone and good ping to play with
unironically what's wrong with that?

also the Covid thing was proved to be real all thanks to Kiara and the patience zero Mori

>>60830656
The logic on this is really shaky
>Gura is still the gateway for tourists (those outside of Hololive fans). She streamed a week before the debuts (even with her superchats turned off). To help bring in the tourists...all of HoloEN's numbers increased too
Your argument is here that Gura overlapping helps because she brings up in tourist, and that's boon to the rest of EN
But that doesn't make since chumbuds are notorious for NOT interacting with the rest of EN, and that Gura basically has an independent viewerbase that doesn't really give a shit about the rest of holo
>When was the last time HoloEN had over 65k concurrent viewers? And you can see it drop noticeably on the two days she didn't stream.
You kinda make a leap in logic to blame Gura for the increase in concurrent viewers, when the more obvious and logical answer Advent's debut renewed interest in the entire branch

>>60841073
It's been proven several times that she does indeed have someone to play with.

>>60827284
>causes all this seethe by taking an unannounced break
Holy autism how can you people be this entitled

>>60841141
but you want someone with good pings for a game like this? no?

Will she bother streaming her pov for sportsfes? Honestly surprised to see she was even participating

>>60827674
What makes this one any different then the last few return streams? I understand if she was pumping out quality videos but it's all just the same lazy "I can't talk about the elephant in the room" streams for like an hour or two at most. And the only time she streamed any longer was when advent came out.

>>60835409
>there was like 3 reddit threads on the main hololive reddit in a week where a bunch of people were calling her lazy
Cover heavily moderates their subreddit so the only reason they would stop deleting negative comments against Gura is because she is fighting with management and they are furious with her.

>>60827284
>has time to shill merch
>has time to participate in collabs
>doesn't have time to say hello or explain why she dipped yet again

Nice oshi, same category as Ayame I reckon

>>60840994
The onus is not on me to prove your point. Especially when anyone with a brain would reason that streaming at the same time as someone else could only hinder that person's live viewcount.

I have a friend who works at valve, he has it on good authority that gura is currently locked in ame's sex dungeon and ame is refusing to let her out. They sent irys after her and ame hurt her so badly she ended up at the hospital for a few weeks. Negotiations are progressing and it looks like gura will be freed in a month or two.

>>60827527
you funny guy

>>60842738
Same Ayame who has been live for 8 hours and is still currently streaming?

>>60830137
I rawdogged her and she forgot if she took pills.

>>60843131
Well at least that's sorted. What's Ame been doing to her in there?

>>60840994
nta but doesn't the burden of proof falls to the one that made the first claim? in this case - you.

anyway, I don't know much about the YT algo but I do know that impressions have a tendency to boost your channel to the average joe's homepage and one of the methods of generating impressions is receiving raids - has Gura raided any Advent member after her streams? If so, then at the very least, I can give your logic a pity point.

>>60827284
>no hiatus
She literally said "see you next year".

>>60836015
She begs for her fans to buy her merch

>>60838488
Ayame has been streaming Valorant for over 8 hours now.

>>60847599
oh my gosh sister, that would be the biggest material to use against her ever, where are those Gura threads with 300+ replies though? point me to one

>>60847748
>playing some Japan's dating game is something noteworthy now
men are so easy

>>60831299
Chumkeks and honestly most HoloENfags get enraged by the idea of watching anything other than their girls. They don't even like the idea of watching the JP or ID girls when an EN girl isn't live.

>>60830927
im not sure ive ever laughed at something shes said

>>60847384
>has Gura raided any Advent member after her streams
AHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>60827284
Honestly? I don't even remember her most of the time. I don't even find her singing particularly good since she has only one tone so I can't even bring up her voice. The other holoEN members are more entertaining than her and some sing way better, so who cares about meme shark anymore. She was basically done with the whole thing after the first year anyway, this isn't a new thing.

>>60847748
holy shit she has, just on twitch

>>60833624
eyyyyy, that was my rrat! Glad someone remembered. Whether it was management enforced or just a benevolent act by Gura herself, that is 100% the reason. There is no bigger advertisement for the new girls than her streaming. Advent gets shilled, everyone is talking about them, they flood your recommendeds... Then Gura peaces out again, and now you're looking to fill the void and FWMC sure do look interesting...it's all too obvious.

>>60834079
It doesn't matter how much talent you have if you don't do anything with it. She doesn't stream. She released her first ever solo non-shill cover this year, and until a couple months ago, only had 1 original song. Her lack of output wastes her singing voice and "idol abilities". Cope all you want about quality > quantity, but quantity is a quality of its own.

>>60834079
that's what makes it so frustrating. She is fucking perfect in every way, her absence is irreplaceable. She's just so damn *good* at this, I wish she still enjoyed doing it.

>>60827284
Anons have always talked about how merch sales make up the lion's share of their income. I can only hope she's doing fine health-wise, while she sits around raking in her passive income. Other than that, I don't really care.

>>60847925
You're posting in one right now, fag.

>>60830857
doesn't matter. She helps the algorithm, which helps HoloEN as a whole.

>>60851999
t. chumcuck whipped with oneitis

>>60827284
If the company was run better, she'd stream more. Cover doesn't let them sing songs, play games, talk freely or do anything outside of shilling acrylic stands. You all are mad at Gura, but if conditions were better she would have never left. If your anger was aimed at Cover this whole time they might have actually opened an NA HQ and fixed all this shit years ago.

Goobus unofficially retired after hearing voices and developing schizoid paranoia from thinking about chumbuds finding her

>>60831299
True anon, all the angry chumkeks are larpers anyway

>>60834079
>talented
shes not even using those talents so she might as well not be talented.
>not a bitch
shes the biggest bitch by not even trying to use her talents and just coasting off her charisma stat.
>>is a tradwife
the bitch wont even wash her own dishes anon, thats the least tradwife thing you can ask for
>>60835409
>>60836015
>>60836894
lets be fair here, people will call anything thats doesnt satisfy them a scam, even if its not actually a scam.
is guras inaction scummy? yes.
is she scamming? no.
anyone unsatisfied despite the patterns showing that gura would be continually inactive, are right to be upset about it but they gave the money despite these warnings, thats not a scam thats just ones own lack of foresight when the info was there.

>>60841310
Imo, these people have the right to be entitled now and they SHOULD make their voices heard.
Unless youre a coworker or something with insider information, how can you back behavior like this?

>>60847384
she couldve done that by doing short streams instead of doing almost one for one the same length of stream as the others.
or even just mentioning them and saying to watch them too.
>>60851823
your right the algo wouldve been boosted slightly for them but if they wanted gura to actually help advertise, they wouldve made her advertise like she does on the shill streams which are the only other streams shes done in months.
>There is no bigger advertisement for the new girls than her streaming
there is and that telling people on her stream about them.
if it was a ploy to get attention on the new girls, gura shouldve been bringing them up often but she didnt, she just streamed over them.

>>60841103
Understand that she attracts both chumbuds and tourists. It's not like she has special powers, it's how the youtube algorythm is currently working. Doesn't work like Twitch which solely on popularity.
Like when Gura won the vtuber of the year award. Many thought Gura was an AI. Because her AI cover went viral among normies that don't know anything about vtubers.
Gura is still the gateway to tourists, there is no denying that.

>>60827284

>>60834079
You’ve never seen the “I’m right here” clip have you

>my oshi should do this so that the nijifags would be mogged
sorry in advance, but I wish nothing but a painful death upon the current EN and holodrones

>>60827664
She's been burnt out for a year and a half. I honestly believe she either did something and is on perma suspension or she just doesn't want to stream anymore.

>>60834870
Bandwagoners? You chumbuds are the bandwagoners, only hopping aboard the vtuber train after it blew up. But you don't see me sitting on my high horse on this board, unlike your faggot ass.

>>60861892
I'll admit I'm among the millions that fell down the rabbit hole because of Gura.
Anons trying to make me change, like fuck off.

>>60861892
but it blew up because of Gura though?

Shiori lost, holodrones don't buy into her stuff
Gura won

deal with it lol

She's graduating, of course.

>>60859008
Didn't she also get burnt out from streaming before she was Gura?

Gura is so good She keeps the sisters here seething 24/7 with zero effort

>>60863091
Gura won so much she no longer has to work, so chumbuds lost.

>>60827284
she wished Reine a happy birthday tho! she's working on shit goddamn it!! real chumbuds are in the know, loser!

>>60859008
>she either did something and is on perma suspension
this is an interesting possibility i've never considered before desu

>>60827284
Fixing Omegatranny damage

>>60849217
Only (you) matter in this world

>>60829967
Damn, she streamed more during Advent's debut (+ the week leading to the debuts) than the rest of the year combined. I knew something was fishy when she had 3 collabs in her channel in july, one with Mumei, when she almost never organized collabs

queen

>>60827284
Oh nyo

What do you call this?

>>60827284
Nigga shut the fuck up nobody cares anymore
Shes having sex with ame, get over it

I remember that she wanted to build underwater city in Minecraft, did she finish that?

>>60827284
If you ever want a good laugh, go to her comments section in her last vod. Members with tridents are getting called fake fans by greys and other chumkeks with lesser membership badges.

>>60827284
Could be a number of reasons, and depending on who you ask it can range of laziness to health issues. In reality no one knows except Gura and those close to her on what's happening.

I'd probably just say don't be surprised if she ends up graduating in the near future if the issues are more behind the scenes. Since she has been bumping heads with management for awhile it seems.

>>60828325
Her design is as cute as her actual personality being repulsive.

>>60827284
Why don't you chumbuds do the next best thing to try and get her attention? Lower her subscription numbers down.

>>60827284
>What gives?
Just wait for her to explain it

>>60827527
owari da

>>60827284
I think it's similar to what other anons already said, she already achieved everything she set out to do as a vtuber (way faster and way more than she expected) and that completely evaporated most of her motivation. And it isn't like she doesn't have enough money by now that she can't comfortably live her neet life, so she will only ever stream again when she feels like it (like completing your goal in a game so you stop playing and only come back once in a while to check out a new update). And not even Cover can do anything about it, like what are they supposed to do? It doesn't even matter what her contract says anymore, because she got so big, got everything done, they probably only somewhat oblige her to do anything actively if it is some big event because if they try and push her too much otherwise she will likely just go
>Oh well, I had a good run.

The biggest mistake chumbuds have made is allowing her to drop schedules. I know a lazy and a derpressed person when I see one cus I am one, and you must not give an inch to their laziness. Once she felt that her fans are soft enough to let her skip on her work, she couldn't be saved anymore.

>>60896114
Literally everyone warned her that it was a terrible idea.

>>60896114
Allowed to? This always makes me chuckle, like fans had any control over that.

She's pregnant

who cares about gura new fresh suisei drama brewing

Honestly I just think she doesn't want to stream and due to the insane amount of passive income she's getting she knows she doesn't have to either. The fact she can make a joke and being "tied up and forced to stream" in the middle of a completely unannounced hiatus shows they she does see it as something she can home about and not really care.

All the chumbuds that are wishing her good health, saying they fear for her depression, ect mean well but are ultimately rewarding her and actively allowing her to continue the way she has been. She's knows that her fans are so devoted she doesn't even have to stream, she doesn't have to tweet, she doesn't have to do anything member related, she doesn't have to say a single thing for the people that are filling her bank account because ultimately they will do it for free.

>>60827284
When was the last member stream?

>>60827284
She has to only still be around because of her status as what amounts to the biggest vtuber in the world. She's a symbol. A face of the industry essentially, and one doesn't simply terminate that.

>>60863091
Who cares about Shiori? Anyways, you have it backwards. Hololive didn't blow up because of Gura or Holo Myth, they debuted when it was blowing up. I don't respect numberfags, but maybe you should read a graph for once.

theres dick in my hands

>>60879362
of EN

>>60896114
tell that to hoomans, they live in a perpetual guerrilla state.

>>60827527
It's cozy

>>60827674
>she will most likely return after that
He said for the 100th time.

>>60883646
Burned out

>>60905253
if Gura would do guerrilla Doom playthrough right now, I would almost forgive her

>>60827284
NijiID mass graduation deflection thread.
we are very happy our hard working shork is taking a break instead of pushing herself too hard, we know how much she does for us

Is Gura the McRib of Hololive?

>>60841073
Mori never had COVID and even if she did, the timeframe you're describing is months off from when Gura had COVID

>>60827284
Gura can stream whenever the fuck she wants. Deal with it.

>>60911480
This, but unironically. As long as Cover doesn't give her shit for it.

>>60833624
If that were their goal she would have been told to stream before EN3. Overlapping just cannibalizes viewership during a pivotal period of initial growth.

Her silence is pathetic. Just announce you're taking a break or declare your a part timer. I used to mainly watch Gura and a few others. But her absence made me lose some interest in watching vtubers. I haven't clicked on a stream for a month. I might check out her "*comeback" stream.

>>60912383
>This is your average chumbie

>>60896642
>The fact she can make a joke and being "tied up and forced to stream" in the middle of a completely unannounced hiatus
A forced hiatus is what they call a suspension and Cover is allowing people to anti Gura on the Hololive subreddit. Whatever is going on with management has made them angry.

>>60912447
I wish, she might come back if more of them had a spine and complained directly to her instead of trying to quash any dissent.

>>60913321
>Whatever is going on with management
oh my god, what could possibly be bothering management about gura?? whatever could it be?? you don't think they're mad that she's literally doing nothing, do you?