/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

filian is based

I love my wife

I miss feemsh

>>60673095
>Reiyu about to cum to Ben 10 powerscaling

filian is based

>Layna hasn't posted since stream
>Filian hasn't posted since stream

THEY ARE

Jwu from a dream where I had sex with and creampied Vei. Weird because I haven't watched her in a year or more

>>60673366
bost of them posted since stream

>>60673366
They both did.

>>60673366
layna has been tweeting

>>60673366
they are getting icecream together

>>60673366
shipsister take your meds, both of them have posted

What the fuck is wrong with grimmi?

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I rarely hear Squ talk about media/hobbies she likes (other than art of course), but I did some digging and found some things she's singled out if you really need inspiration. But I do know that above all else her favorite thing is romance. She likes to flirt and be flirted with, so if you want to really impress you'll have to flex your seduction skills
>Aliens (the franchise, though you probably couldn't go wrong with any alien theming)
>The movie Dark Skies
>Demolition Man
>The Imitation Machine
>Tenacious D (The Pick of Destiny especially)
>Genshin Impact
>Animal Crossing
>Kaguya-sama: Love Is War
>The Promised Neverland

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be nise

Layna may be a bad person, but she is passionate and dedicated, I respect that.

me when i huh

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Some things Moriko likes for inspiration:
>Her friends (non-inclusive): Mint, Geega, Nina, Grape, Shondo, Olivia
>Monster Hunter
>Legend of Zelda (Majora's Mask especially)
>Pikmin
>Xenoblade Chronicles
>Binding of Isaac
>Banjo & Kazooie
>Retro games (too many to list)
>Old Internet memes
>Tanks
>Dinosaurs

>>60673485
lots of things

>>60673421
>>60673459
>>60673462
>>60673464
>>60673476
What the actual fuck is wrong with you all?
Why would you ruin a smackers harmless headcanon?

>>60673485
Nevermind, she ate some bad taco bell.

Grimmi is a closeted FTM who vents out her urges by using her Gaspar persona

>>60673544
I can relate to this

buhh

>>60673485
Every female vtuber has tummy hurt syndrome, head achey disease, and eepy sleepy disorder.

>>60673561
Mel samefagging

gobbing to a vr mute (mika moonlight) for like the 5th time and nobody can stop me

>Yuzu thinks vtubers will become mainstream in America

>>60673561
smacker needs to get better at rrating/shipping.canonig. top tier shitposting takes more effort than regular posting.

>>60673667
kek

>>60673615
where is coca? she wants coca

HEFTY pussy

>>60673667
not happening. the only thing that can push vtubin slightly toward mainstream is another 2 year lockdown

we're so in oomfies

>>60673667
People said this about anime in general but OP got a live action that was pretty good and now we're here

>>60673667
>Yuzu thinks
good one, anon

>>60673581
Fucking "Gaspars" ass while he has a realdoe clenched in his boycunt!

Did Filian and Layna hold hands on stream ?

>>60673809
Fat girls dont deserve hand holding

>>60673667
The avarage person thinks vtubing is weird. It's not happening.

>>60673792
>pretty good
usopp's nose begs to differ

>>60673561
I think Layna should behead filian and shit down her neck. And it's actually a pretty harmless thought until I post it 100s of times.

>>60673561
>>they are getting icecream together
>headcanon
its icecream date

>>60673667
>>Yuzu thinks vtubers will become mainstream in America
no
it appeals only to people with broken lives

>>60673809
Nah, if anything Layna was trying not to get cut or stabbed the whole time with filian flailing around with scissors and a knife while opening packages.

>>60673857
They did the best they could, Yoru was cast perfectly.

>>60673940
tabs

>>60673792
and how long it took?

>>60673940
>can be anything in the entire world
>decide to become a cockroach
What was going on in her head?

>>60673922
now this is good.

when?

>>60673940
tabs

>>60673923
So what you're saying is, we need to break America.

>>60673995
Ever since the Netflix Cowboy bebop debacle, only about 3 years counting production time.

>>60673940
tabs

>>60674048
>kill
>befriend
>fuck
>kiss on the forehead
>pat on the head

>>60673792
normies still unironically think all vtubers are dudes with a voice changer

Watching anime and vtubers is cool now, get with the times granpas.

>>60674048
Layna really needs to do more MMD dances

>>60674127
Normies think a lot of things, there are still people out there who think Kanye West was replaced with a clone back in 2020 after killing himself.

>>60673998

>>60673792
Yeah but the normies still view anime as trash or not worth the time to even appreciate the medium.

Have a film maker friend and he flat out refuses to watch anything animated even though his hero ripped off from Paprika and other animated movies.

>>60674173
even the average twitchfag still thinks that, just look at asmon's chat in those reaction clips of his

>>60673940
tits too big

>>60674173
normies are the majority of paying customers in society so markets revolve around them. their lack of understanding or any genuine curiosity in anything other than sports ball politics and beer is not a bug in the system it's the main driwing force of the whole system.

>>60674173
Normies are beyond saving. The kind of complete schizory that you can get out of the average person after like a week of knowing them puts the people in this thread to shame.

Imakuni is live waiting for Sonic Superstars to drop
https://www.twitch.tv/imakuni

>>60674283
worst post itt

I would like nothing more than to witness Zuma to be held down by her bodacious D-cup tits and to be forcibly raped by an obese gypsy man. Her fat thighs would jiggle in glee as she is impregnated by her ugly bastard rapist

>>60674410
This but instead of an ugly bastard rapist it's a group of 3 14 year old east asian boys who all take turns cumming in her

>>60674283
I agree

Nothing more pathetic than 4channers thinking they're more enlightened than "normies" just because they've never had sex.

Yuzu doesn't wear bras

Who cares about normies
post dancing chuubas

I love this retard. I want to make her my wife!

>>60674477
Cloning technology capable of quickly replicating a fully grown schizophrenic black man does not exist you fucking idiot

Rarely mentioned spider chuuba is starting her stream.
https://www.twitch.tv/charlottes_webvt

>>60674505
neither do I

>>60674505
he doesnt need too

>>60674127
normies think all twitch streamers are amouranth
I think streaming with an avatar could become normalized as the scene matures - who knows where we'll be in 20 years?

>>60673661
gob to a real woman like gothicbunni or nebride bro

>>60674269
There are some people that don't get fantasy as a concept. In other words, basically media illiterate people. Don't underestimate your media literacy and don't fall into the trap of overestimating it either.

>>60674516

>>60674551
hot

>>60674525
Mei stop self posting

>>60674626
anon..

>>60674380
Hell yeah brother

>>60674633
I'm not Mei. Mei is not /here/ and he wouldn't indulge in such lewd acts, and there's no way I could be bothered with the stupid fucking Captcha.

>>60674516

>>60674269
in the eyes of normies anything that is animated is meant for little kids.

>>60674611
no, they aren't as sexy

Yuzu just post vajean and slay the rrats already. You already belong to the streets so might as well.

>Imakuni met Chrischan IRL a long time ago
Not surprising since she is into Sonic but Christ

>>60674608
I think it will as well. There are very notable advantages.
For women
>appearance equalization for instant sex appeal
>anonymity so schizos don't recognize you in public
>just generally more flexibility with presentation
For men
>easier differentiation (men are often viewed as generic in appearance)
>can avoid appearing threatening or out of place
>basically just a jumping avatar to keep ADD attention on a camless stream

I'm considering making a PNGtuber stream instead of a camless one for an upcoming project, just because it's fucking easy and it'll give my content some character.

>>60674633
I'm not the retard. I'm just posting about how I love retard.

>>60674859
Take it off WHORE.

>>60674773
I will anti Yuzu if she doesn't have a big dick

>>60674608
Streaming will all be bots within the next 20 years.

>>60674859

>>60674812
t. a no view male

>>60674812
all your points about men are wrong, vtubing is just a straight debuff for men unless you want to pander to fujos

>>60674812
booth model is only 50$, better than png

>Meat hasn't told Snuffy about the smurf torture yet since she's worried she'd be an empath and feel bad for the smurfs

>>60674958
suko, please shut the fuck up. you already ruined toma with your mental retardation.

>>60674516

>>60674872
ask nicely

>>60674812
by being vtuber you alienate 85% of all people who watch streams. vtubing has a hard cap on viewers in the west.

>>60674935
Nah dude, if you look at the general trends of indie male vtubers who get more than 0 views they're all just using the avatar as an eye grabber and doing regular dude stream stuff. For men, it's not so much a mask as a little dancing toy that attracts and keeps attention better than a real face.

>>60674516

>>60674924
Have you not visited /swarm/? the ai chuuba fad has been dying in 2 weeks for the last 10 months

>>60674525
Who is your retard?

>>60674812
Vtubbing is a debuff for males. Either be really good at one video game, be funny or farm meta content on youtube hoping that something get reacted by asmongold or get pick up by the algo.

>>60675028
Vei, show me that fucking pussy, *please*. You can't be taunting posters like this. You need correction!

Imakuni with a lot of obscure facts as usual

>>60674618
>some people that don't get fantasy as a concept
The amount of people that fall into this bin is much higher than it should be.

>>60674756
Unironically, a very close minded way of thinking of them. Nothing can be done.

>>60675045
Yeah but that's why you don't generally present it as "vtubing" as a man specifically. You just avatarfag and don't try to be an idol.
People don't understand the male vtubing space at all yet because they're too wrapped up with trying to replicate female idol success, but it's not gonna end up like that at all.

>>60674173
Kirsche what the fuck are you talking about

>>60674809
You can easily Google the picture they took together too. Chris is standing in the back, towering over her with both of his hands clasping her shoulders and pulling her back into the crook of his neck

>>60675132
mei is *our* retard

>>60672171
I have arrived to post Lucy's elbow
> https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1931373960?t=1h39m20s

>>60674924
I don't see streamer bots becoming a big thing
neuro keeps people's interest because of her interactions with vedal/other (non-bot) vtubers, and if a bot was really good enough to be your virtual friend/girlfriend, why would you not just have a personal one instead of watching a stream?

>>60675111
Neuro is literally built to be retarded. There are better "AI" models out there already and they'll only get better.

>>60675152
>Vtubbing is a debuff for males
Again, you literally don't understand this. Go find male "independent vtubers" in the sense of men who use live2D and aren't hooked in with an agency, then sort them by how well they do. You'll find that the best ones are basically just regular streamers who use the avatar as an addition, not a central part of the stream.
It's very different for men, trying to replicate female vtubing success is retarded and pointless. To succeed you have to take another route.

>>60675319
no thanks

>>60673561
I don't think they should do it yet

>>60675251
the main reason i don't like you fuckers is not because you watch a tranny or anything but it's simply because you never post a link to the channel or the actual channel name and are just ambiguous as fuck it's really annoying.

>>60675059
is there r34 of this thing

>>60675257
Lucy's effortlessly pinnable noodle arms...

>>60675376
yeah check her media tab on twitter

>>60675360
I wasn't giving you a choice

>>60675460
no, thank you.

>>60675198
no one watches males for appearance. males are watched for their content alone it doesn't matter if you have a cam avatar or no cam if gameplay/content is good people will watch. good doesn't mean quality, just has wide appeal. vtubing will only be detriment for male steamers because it limits what they can stream and immediately alienates even more people than female vtubing.

>>60673099
>i drew that
neat

>>60675257
is Lucy black?

>https://www.twitch.tv/calliecalico
Knotty cat live with Siren

Just realized. Jets could have met the whore clan.

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>>60675198
It's better to just show your face, man want to few relatable to the guy they are watching and it's easier if they can see your face. The only exception is if you are incredibly good in a video like prime lirik, if you are good at roleplaying games like GTA RP or if you have clouted friends like Asmongold/Sodapopin.

>>60675319
There's literally not a single other AI chuuba who passes the 3view threshold and and people already hate the concept of being replaced when it comes to art. human streamers will never go obsolete unless we revolutionize entertainment to the point where streaming itself dies.

>>60675251
Oh I see thanks anon.

>>60675528
>Siren

HOLY SHIT! Finally!

>>60675497
>no one watches males for appearance
That is LITERALLY what I said, by the way. You just didn't read what I said before replying.
>it doesn't matter if you have a cam avatar or no cam
It does, actually, but mainly for the initial ~5-30 minutes and getting the click on the thumbnail. After that, yeah, no point.
>vtubing will only be detriment for male steamers because it limits what they can stream and immediately alienates even more people than female vtubing
Please actually fucking read, thanks. It's fundamentally different. Men can't be idols, vtubers are idols. Using an avatar is not the same thing as vtubing.
>>60675572
It really depends. Some guys don't have a good appearance for getting clicks, and attention spans are only getting shorter. A flashy avatar keeps attention better.

>>60673747
jesus that is a hefty pussy

>>60675515
you couldn't tell?

>>60675195
>Nothing can be done.
I don't know about that one. For sure, nobody can fix the world entire, but I feel like they just need to be introduced to actually mature animations. Whether it's just making them realize the artistry of a short animation, whether it's just letting them watch an animation with mature themes.

It's not that many decades ago that Lord of the Rings overcame the image that fairy tales are for kids.

>>60675714
There's tons of ugly dudes who get more viewers than any vtuber on twitch

>>60675446
what is her twitter

>>60675497
>no one watches males for appearance
women do, but a lot of men who try to appeal to that don't really get what they want

if you want to be a male vtuber then emulate gnorts

>>60675714
flashy avatar also filters a ton of people. and even if they don't consider themselves as vtuber and dont act as vtuber in the eyes of people checking out stream they are vtuber.

>>60675528
Chat was talking about giving the 3am girls classes during stream yesterday and Callie got all excited and started giving them stats and felt embarrassed by it after since she's the only that plays tabletop games. It was really cute and I love this geeky redneck.

if you want to be a male vtuber then emulate damascus

fell asleep mid collab how was the rest of the stream snackers

>>60675714
>Men can't be idols
Michael jackson...

>>60675714
>A flashy avatar keeps attention better.
No? The avarage twitch viewer is never going to choose a avarage avatar vs a normal person. Again, the only exception is if you are incredibly good at some video game. As a man, being relatable is better than being attractive on twitch, a ugly/avarage dude is more relatable to the avarage twitch viewer than a anime avatar.

>>60675376
https://files.catbox.moe/k6msnv.png
https://files.catbox.moe/an1hy8.png
https://files.catbox.moe/pq3tl3.png
https://files.catbox.moe/7wki4b.png
https://files.catbox.moe/z2vzc8.png
https://files.catbox.moe/peyxnb.png

>>60675856
chromuchromu

>>60675833
The existence of success without using a method doesn't mean the method is invalid. There are plenty of ugly dudes getting mad pussy IRL, doesn't mean being hot doesn't work.
>>60675874
>>60675991
>flashy avatar also filters a ton of people
>The avarage twitch viewer is never going to choose a avarage avatar vs a normal person
See the thing is, I don't think this is the case on a net basis, based on most media consumption habits. Zoomers in particular are massively more biased to clicking and retaining views on things that are flashy and attention grabbing. I mean fuck, have you SEEN what makes money on Tiktok? Sure, it'll filter some people, but everything filters some people. Being male filters some people. Your race will filter some people. Your voice will filter some people. What you want to do is leverage the advantage of the avatar to make back more than you lose.

>>60675028
Take it fuCKING OFF, WHORE

>>60675574
You have the foresight of a fruitfly. 20 years of technological progress? Look how far chatgpt has moved in 1 year. Businesses are already considering reducing human input.
We already have shit like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_uLC0p3iL4
I can't seem to pull myself away from this shithole, so feel free to call me retarded in a couple of decades.

>>60675862
the amount of women who watch streams is very small. while trying to fill a niche can be a good strat it's very difficult especially if there is competition.

>>60675904
Instead of D&D they should play FATAL so I can watch Oli have to roll her anal circumference stat

>>60674516

>>60675970
michael jackson didn't start as an idol, he started as a regular singer, in other words, a "skill worker"
then he reached that critical mass of popularity where women want your cock purely because of how famous you are. that's when the idol moment happened

it's not viable for vtubers unless you start as a corpo. basically, you need to start out giga-famous otherwise women aren't gonna bite

>>60676103
Wosemi in da /lig/!

>>60676005
I want to fuck her.

>>60676101
Callie has talked about that system before. Maybe chat can convince her to get the girls to play it for a goofy kind of stream.

>>60676062
I'm not saying we won't have the tech to do so, i don't doubt we will. I just don't think that AI will kick people out of streaming as a medium just like how people won't stop painting or writing even if an AI will kick their ass 20 years from now.

>>60675970
Yeah what >>60676137 said. Technically this is more of a 99.99% of men can't be idols, but it's close enough. Men can't start out and debut as an idol, except maybe if they're in a kpop group. Just doesn't work.

>>60676135
i wish more chuubas were like this

Silver has nice tits.

Numi thinks very highly of her tits

>>60676281
Do female indies start as idols from that definition then? would they not also need some sort of appeal to get the ball rolling before that critical mass?

>>60675874
TikTok is horrible metric for what translates into long term viewers. there are tons of tiktok stars that can't sell out even smallest venues for live shows.
and having vtuber avatar on your stream simply filter 85% of all twitch viewers, more if you are male. there's a reason why a single top fleshie streamer can get more views on 1 stream than all twitch chuubas combined.

>>60676359
It's not even Halloween...

>>60676103
are they underneath my bed?

>>60676137
I counter with The Backstreet Boys

>>60676359
If they are so nice why won't you fondle and kiss them?

I would like to thank you guys for introducing me to Reiyu
Never heard of her before tonight
Really enjoyed that stream

>>60676390
If they spend thousands and do a "debut"? Actually, yeah mostly. The idol effect is a byproduct of how male->female relationships work. It doesn't function in reverse. To replicate it for men, you need many times the money and marketing effort.

>>60675368
You seem angry cutie.

>>60676478
you're welcome Reiyu.

Imakuni starting the game now

>>60676137
he started as a little kid who was made famous by the motown machine
your soul being owned by a corpo is what being an idol means

>>60676421
I think she's just fucking around with outfits. She's already back to Gyaru
>>60676474
God I wish...

>>60676453

https://www.twitch.tv/calliecalico
north texas slut is live

>>60676209
Man I hope so, it would be quite the stream. She might have to modify it to make it tos friendly though since you can accidentally start raping your opponent during combat and one of the magic items you can find turns you into a stereotypical Jew, complete with making your nose longer

>>60676239
Well it won't stop them, no, but there's an high chance it reduced to a hobby and not an income stream. Without regulation by state or individual businesses, human actors would just be drowned out by sheer numbers.

vtubers complain non-stop about vtubing not being mainstream, and then they continue to collab with & support troons

it utterly self-sabotaging, if you ask a random person why they won't watch vtubers, the answer is always "it's just a bunch of guys hiding behind the avatars." the amount of injury done to the industry by that tiny clique of autogynephiles getting pushed by virtue signalers is amazing

Name a single twitch vtuber that can be classified as an idol that's also a 4 view.

>>60674525
why is she so deranged about men I was lurking in her discord and she posted paragraphs about her future husband

>>60675542
bad timeline

go away

>>60676591
Bienvenidos rata de plata

>>60676669
no one cares about idol shit

How much is the redeem to get Callie to blow her nose?

>>60676653
you're not wrong

>>60676669

>>60676653
the problem is if they say anything, they will get eaten alive by the autistic men who make up the bulk of the fanbase

>>60676669

>>60676653
because most vtubers are retarded zoomie women raised by twitter/tumblr

>>60676653
absolutely true but they'll never confront that fact.

>>60676653
Meds.

>>60676669
Define idol, like they release music?

>>60676627
This implies that algorithmically-designed AI streams that flood the market would somehow overtake existing viewerbases. I figure they'd become the youtube content farm of streaming that gets numbers and cash but no influence outside of the breakout hits.

oh boy, he's really going all out this time

>>60676669
My favourite idol Nyan.

God I really want to cum inside Shyrei (Squchan)

>>60676669
Filian almost had it before she did CB

>>60676781
It's this, they actually do not understand there's an option to say no to troon bullshit. They all exist in the lefty twitter sphere where questioning the dogma around troons is unthinkable.

>>60676653
Not true in the slightest. No VTuber has done anything impressive outside of react content and games. No VTuber has broke the medium like Ludwig or Jerma. Don't be a retard and blame this on troons.

i never noticed how long mint's arms are....

>>60676851
did you make her a tile in between bouts of wanting to cum inside her?

>>60676759
They just have to say nothing and don't do the collabs. They could do this in a completely non-confrontational way, collab beggars already get shamed and asking a chuuba why they haven't collabed with x y or z is verboten.

Just say nothing and in this case, do nothing.

>>60676669
Buddy, it seems like I triggered the fuck out of you.
Vtubers = idols in every way except the media output. You don't seem to grasp this.

>>60676870
see you in 72 hours

>>60676653
If this was true why do many troons find success and friends?

>>60676870
>It's this, they actually do not understand there's an option to say no to troon bullshit.
there actually isn't
i know a couple vtubers who privately hate trannies
but no one can say anything short of glowing support publicly otherwise the autism golems will come for them

you have to understand autistic men (read: 95% of vtuber fans) are not sentient, they are like an automaton that does whatever authority/media tells them is right, and they will get violently upset if you disagree with any of it

>>60676865
filian went for AI singing route and stopped trying to learn to sing herself, sadly she will never be an idol.

its been a few hours but meat is still annoying

>>60676908
I did
Last year
I don't want to burn the joke way too much

>>60677004
KEK

>>60676931
You really have to explain yourself more than just saying "you're triggered and i'm right"

I don't like this new form of tranny schizo. He's weird and self replying.

>>60677004
she's only annoying when she repeats the same thing more than three times then its like a switch is flipped in my head and I hate her

>>60677004
damn you're still upset, rex? focus on wigglin on mint's stream.

>>60677016
make a different tile this year?

Imakuni just dropped a hot new Sonic character

>>60676983
name one

>>60676957
Cope, it's not against site rules to talk about topics you don't like.
>>60676998
>there actually isn't
I mean for them, sure, but that's because they deliberately courted fanbases that wouldn't tolerate it. Had they not tolerated the bullshit, or even not enabled it, they would be able to put their foot down without losing 80% of their audience.
Growth would have been slower though, and we know how zoomies love their dopamine.

>>60676901
99.999% of fleshtubers could never do what jerma did either I don't get your point

>>60677063
what did meat do to my chatter oshi

>>60677119
(You) soon

>>60677128
literally all you do is post offtopic with the word 'vtuber' randomly thrown in like the guy in the mummy holding up religious icons in front of the pharoah

>>60677103
what's his name?

>>60676931
i think the 2 of you have different definition of what you consider to be an idol.

>>60677027
If you lack the reference level required to understand what an idol actually is, and think they're just a singer or whatever, there's no point trying to educate you in a 4chan thread.

>>60676053
Tiktok and twitch are completely different and several streamers already talked that the conversion rate between these two plataform are awful, tiktok trends are not going to work on twitch. You have to keep in mind who the avarage twitch user is, if you are not part of a big community like the minecrafters or W streamers, the avarage twitchfag isn't going to watch a random avatar guy (already said the few exceptions). Either way, I hope you succed liggermen.

I can't memorize anything marimari says, it's unbelievable how can she just go on and on about something but say nothing at all.

>>60677016
Make one where she's allowed to cum inside you as a birthday treat

>>60676999
Singing was the last hurdle. Singing lessons could have helped a little or maybe a lot, I don't know how good training is when it comes to your voice, but sitting next to a girl getting fucked by a robot in a sports car really does remove you from the idol pool.
You can still be a kick ass streamer, but you can't be an idol.

>>60676726
>>60676765
>>60676839
>>60676865
All of you posted whores.

Any collabs happened today other than Layna Filian? Also i had this dream where i had sex with Veibae, which is weird because i don't watch her

>>60677209
Buddy I have no idea who you think I am but I'm not that guy.

>>60676999
>she will never be an idol
Thank fucking god, imagine having idolfags/unicornfags in /here/

>>60677261
Oli and my penis but that was an off collab

>>60677281
you know exactly who you are

>>60677119
Artemis, OBKatieCat, KitsuneSpirit, ArtsyVRC, MakoFukasame, and Yuzu(if the rats are to be believed) I'm sure there's is more.

>>60677209
Oddly specific reference.

>>60677247
pretty sure shes a virgin with aspirations to become a real idol and not a virtual one

>>60677215
At this point i've heard about a dozen definitions on this board, so i really can't know what you mean concretely unless you lay it out to me like i'm an infant because the waters on this board are so muddy i could start gathering peat.

>>60677288
That was the subject at hand, brainlet.

>https://twitter.com/Egocider/status/1714105115584655531

Wtf are you niggas talking about now

>>60677217
>Tiktok and twitch are completely different
They share a MASSIVE overlap in userbase, it doesn't matter if the platforms and formats are different. Something things translate across, and grabbing the attention of brainfried zoomers is one of those things. The reason the conversion rate is awful is because most streamers are trying to get stream viewers with shorts instead of applying what works to attract attention on one to the other. It's not even close to the same thing.

>>60676901
being mainstream popular has nothing to do with "breaking the medium". xqc is the biggest streamer and he's just a mildly retarded french-canadian who talks loud and fast

you don't have to do elaborate game shows and stunts to be mainstream, you just have to make people feel not embarrassed to hang out in your stream, and vtubers fail at this because nobody wants to associate with "porn addicted men wearing anime avatars" which is the public perception of vtubers because vtubers exercise no hygiene in who they hang out with and collab with

>>60677334
kokonuts and bao

>>60677212
Fang

>>60677294
That's a really old image. I wouldn't recommend going into desuarchive and reading the /pmg/ threads where vei was seen as the next big thing. Kind of depressing now.

>>60677408
XQCs success came from ESports he's irrelevant to the medium that creatives are in like Ludwig and jerma

.

i like when oomfie sings

>>60677448
Is that place even still around

>>60677394
It's the usual 'two fags pretend they're experts and shit up the thread by having a gay little argument' shtick we have every few weeks

>>60677383
An idol is a woman (or in VERY RARE CASES a man) whom an extremely large number of people form a parasocial one-way pseudo-romantic relationship with that the idol enables for financial profit through the sale of goods or services. As there is a necessary romantic/sexual component to this relationship, most men cannot be idols due to the difference in female->male attraction. It's only when you get MJ, or some other guy who every woman wants to fuck because he's insanely rich and famous, that the potential for a male idol appears. Men, in comparison, are much more easily led and manipulated romantically and more accustomed to shelling out money for love.

>>60677499
no it didn't, xqc was a 5view before he ever played a tournament
he was just a regular ladder player
in fact he got picked up to OWL because he was a successful streamer
and his time in OWL was extremely short (they banned him for writing TriHard in chat)

anyway, tl;dr is you're wrong

fillyass

>>60677422
How is Bao trans also thanks forgot about Kokonuts. I guess the big difference though is that all the trans I posted act, and want to be woman and aren't like other trans.

>>60677261
there was a collab with your oshi and my stinky french penis

faggots

>>60677526
Yes. New vshojo members like henya and filian being melody's friend mean they have things to talk about these days. I'm surprised it even has over 50 IPs since it feels like just 5 people talking.

>>60677499
xqc got famous by doing what vei is trying to do
.

>>60677595
because bao has a penis

>>60677166
yes but a fleshtuber did it. it's like lottery, fleshtubing is a Powerball and vtubing is some useless scratch-off in a truck stop. there are a few people in the world who became multimillionaires by winning Powerball. no one ever became a multimillionaire from truck stop scratch tickets. the chance/hope. The probability of success or never seen before quality is what attracts people.

>>60676983
this is like asking why jews were able to take half of palestine

>>60677499
He got his core audience from that but when he quit e-sports he grew like 5x from that size. He might be a different situation from most but most of his current viewers have never even seen him play competitive OW.
I agree with you that he's basically the opposite of a "creative" but his brand of 'tism is what sells him to zoomers and tiktok speds.

>>60677334
>Artemis, OBKatieCat, KitsuneSpirit, ArtsyVRC, MakoFukasame, and Yuzu
most of those are low 3views
ie. not even paying their rent
and they subsist at that low level of clout only by leeching off their friends (and in doing so, causing them great harm)

>>60677654
bao is just fat

>>60677004
Stop wasting your time and watch someone else then.

>>60677393
That's wgat kissing a Pikmin does to a motherfucker. Also I do not know if you are the same mothposter or maybe even the Spedge poster that suggested it but the picture of mothposter being gangbanged by the bug vtubers is coming along nicely.

>>60677569
gotcha, thanks for explaining. I'm not the original anon, just wasn't a fan of the hand-waiving post earlier.

>>60677702
oh, yeah I meant numi has a penis

>>60677688
I think you are just retarded anon. Every streamer leeches. You can't pin this on the trannies.

I think trannyschizo's mom could be trans. I also think he might be trans. I think his dad might be trans too. I've heard their voices.

>>60677644
>even has over 50 IPs since it feels like just 5 people talking
Somethings never change

>>60677751
she's not thai she's filipino

>>60677644
>I'm surprised it even has over 50 IPs since it feels like just 5 people talking.
this current thread tbqh, awful fucking thread so far

>>60677738
I'm pretty sure that definition is quotable from somewhere, I just cannot fucking recall where right now. There have been actual studies into this sort of thing done by marketing companies to help them figure out how to better market and create idols. It's almost hard science at this point.

>>60677768
He's upset he gets turned on from cock. He'll catch another ban soo

>>60677768
sorry but there's no way to sophistry your way around the fact that every member of the coveted "mainstream twitch audience" says they don't watch vtubers because it's pornsick men with anime avatars
that is an objective fact

>>60677794
right I meant tricky has a penis

>>60677334
>Artemis - 235 views
>OBKatieCat - 437 views (bought his own plushie out)
>KitsuneSpirit - 80 views
>ArtsyVRC - 199 views
>MakoFukasame - 274 views
>KokoNuts - 340 views (groomed a minor)

>>60677569
Mostly true but you're looking at it from the perspective of an adult male who thinks it's normal to watch idols. Do you think little Japanese girls watch and want to be idols so they can garner the attention of obsessive old men? Actually this is /lig/ so maybe don't answer that.

>>60677859
proofs?

dya rikku's fat trans cock with a blin face painted on the head

>>60677779
I think they're trans in denial and hate themselves for it
nobody sane knows what an 'autogynophile' is

>>60677404
the owerlap works different that you think. people who arleady wath twitch as their main source of content also watch tiktok/shorts. people who watch tiktok/shorts as their main content don't give a fuck about twitch. you will not make tiktok/shorts viewer to watch a long format content.

>>60677874
I actually don't mind not arguing against this one because I hate trickywi but based on what we know about her sexual activity it is sadly most likely untrue

>>60677859
My friend doesn't watch vtubers because he doesn't like anime brother not because he thinks about tranny cocks like you do 24/7. No normie thinks about "porn addicted men" only retards with tranny derangement syndrome do get help man.

>idol culture retardation
>tranny obbsession
What happened to the liggermen I once knew?

>>60677930
lol do you want proof water is wet too
fuck off retard

>>60677961
oh whoops I meant bao has a penis

>>60677922
>/lig/ is a thread for viewers to find, share, and discuss indie vtubers who have on average 500 viewers or more.
none of them even qualify for /lig/ but the legions of autistic trannies that plague our general make sure to mention them every single thread

>>60677244
her problem was also trying to learn it all on her own, she never took lessons with people because of opsec autism.

>>60677582
Need it on my face.

>>60677941
its just the same guy from before pissed off that his vtuber suicide bait, politics derail, etc, didn't work. you guys are overthinking it too much when most of the time its just some dead-ender rolling up into the vtuber board to take out his frustrations at being ignored

>>60677993
Erm, that's not proofs? sorry, i don't just take anons at their word.

>>60678011
no she has dicknipples

>>60677929
No I'm not, and the entire rest of my posts explain why.
>MEN CANNOT BE IDOLS (in 99% of cases)
>THEREFORE MEN CANNOT USE VTUBING AS A WAY TO BE IDOLS LIKE WOMEN DO
>THEREFORE MEN WILL USE AVATARS DIFFERENTLY
For fuck's sake, please read.

large indie vtubers?

>>60678028
Why does the XD face make it hotter

post cute pics of your oshi

>>60677944
You literally did not read the post. You're not converting people from one to the other, you're applying the CTR-increasing principles of one to the other to get more clicks and attention because there's huge overlap and those principles work due to immutable mental characteristics of the audience. For fuck's sake I feel like I'm yelling at a room filled with illiterates.

>>60677569
This applies to every /lig/ger

>>60678113

did anyone else have suspicions feesh was a guy when your first listened to her voice

>>60678033
Yeah tranny schizo is like multiple other schizos. He self replied to himself and acts like he's correct when nobody cares.

>>60678150
no because im not retarded

>>60677730
Why are you like this

This is currently the worst thread on the board.

>>60678113

>>60678113

>>60678115
Media illiterate retards are real and are posting with you right now

>>60678155
infinite content production creature

>>60678183
im retarded?

>>60678193
stay calm sis the dysphoria will pass

>>60678155
someone link me this critter's channel

>>60678045
Listen I'm just saying idol culture is mostly a girl thing to consume. It's creating an "ideal" for young girls to aspire towards, kind of like Disney princesses but actual people

>>60677730
>the picture of mothposter being gangbanged by the bug vtubers is coming along nicely

>>60678233
https://www.twitch.tv/chromuchromu

>>60678023
>all the way down to 100 is reasonable
KitsuneSpirit is out

>>60678045
what do you mean by an idol, anyway?
in the west this culture of straight men being parasocial for female singers doesn't really exist
every female popstar's male fans are either gay or just want to jerk off to their feet

>>60678204
God do I fucking know it.
>>60678250
>mostly a girl thing to consume
Have you heard of a small country called Japan? No? Look it up.
>>60678299
>>60677569
READ NIGGA READ

>>60677977
it's the west coast posting

>>60678266
whore

>>60678291
Her viewerships been lower the past few months because she's been sick, but she usually hovers around 100. Still has partner badge though.

>>60677095
I already made 2, but I'm thinking on what to draw/edit for a 3rd
>>60677233
I already did it for last year
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/35423362/#35430065

>>60678184
Don't worry it is SFW and not wgat you think. Vesper is a real motherfucker to draw though.

i legit cant get into the head of someone who spends most of their time waiting for their timeout to expire so they can post in a thread they hate and hates them back for 2 hours before going back on vacation. i thought i was a nutjob for wanting to lay bug pipe with juniper

>>60677970
you, being a pornsick male, probably have pornsick male friends so i'm not talking about you. you're not a member of the "mainstream audience" that vtubers all want. you're a vtuber viewer which means you have debilitating permavirgin autism and would be in an asylum 40 years ago playing with legos instead of croaking your unsettling AGP voice into a mic while a loli anime fetish girl lipsyncs

all normal people don't watch vtubers cause they believe, with increasing accuracy, that vtubers are all pornsick troons

is no one really going to submit the ligger cat thats full of squchan cum for the card

>>60678266

>>60678023
looks like i triggered the tranitor kek

funs over spread your cheeks and lift your sack

>>60678413
Brother what are you even saying. Take a step back you look like a psychopath.

>>60678413

>>60678424
bye bye

>>60678445
I balled so hard they thought I was a fuckin' nutsack.

>>60678113
I need this edited with a keyboard and monitor with her posting on /lig/

>>60678424
tranny janny loves to pretend that posts explicitly about vtubing are off-topic if they're critical of vtubers

luckily, residential VPNs (tuxler and mysteriumdark) are very cheap so it takes 2 seconds to make trannitor throw his mop in rage

>>60678346
ok, and who is like that in the west?
the only female singer with a large parasocial fanbase in the west is taylor swift, and they're all straight or bi women who self-insert as her

>>60678408
>i thought i was a nutjob for wanting to lay bug pipe with juniper
You are but I'd do it too

>>60678408
>i thought i was a nutjob for wanting to lay bug pipe with juniper
you are a nutjob, it's just more endearing form of nutty than the other guy's fixation.

>>60678497
>who is like that in the west
Bro you're discussing a ton of them right now on a board dedicated to discussing them. Also the west has huge numbers of kpop stans.
Idols don't have to be singers, they can produce other media. Vtubers are basically just idols behind avatars.

buhh

>>60678371
Naiyo was always the hardest to draw for me because I feel the need to get every detail regarding the number of segments and limbs correctly, but it's also one of those things where it's just a brain off task to execute after it's planned.

>>60678299
>in the west this culture of straight men being parasocial for female singers doesn't really exist
the opposite definitely exists, which is why ricky martin hid being gay to increase record sales from women who totally believed they had a chance

>>60678584
just draw her tits

I'll come back tomorrow cya later liggas have a nice day with your chuubas!!

>>60674516

>>60678483
How do you get the idea that the janny banning you is the one raging and not you who pays money to spam a 4chan thread with shitty posts about your culture war vendetta.

>>60678644
Ignore it now

>>60674516

>>60678408
>wanting to lay bug pipe with juniper
I do not know what this means but I would kiss pikmin with Juni

>>60678679
laying pipe is an english euphemism for sex, you literalist german (?) who i am envisioning with a perfectly square haircut

>>60678630
I feel like Grape is super hot irl. Anyone else get this feeling

>>60678282
>pop in and she's talking about how iron lung sucks and that she wants to play carmelldansen over it
Impressive ADHD levels

>>60673490
Not every tile has to be hyper creative

>>60678115
and you don't read what i say. people who are mainly twitch watchers and watch tiktok while taking a shit or on a bus don't care about tiktok tactics or they wouldn't be watching twitch in the first place.

>>60678729
she wants to be a snail parasite now

Milky is a visually pleasing vtuber with a pleasant voice and irl boobs to match the model, she knows her audience well and provides a variety of stream content. However her decision making is very poor and her stream times do not work well with the modern American's daily schedule.

Overall I give this vtuber a 3.5/5

>>60678727
If she was she would be a fleshstreamer and not a vtuber

>>60678744
Holy fucking shit, zoomie, there is ACTUAL SCIENCE behind advertising, did you know that? This shit works no matter the setting, it's why they do it. Fucking god damned retards on the internet these days. Take a media literacy class.

>>60678729
She's playing Andy and Leyley on Wed which should be pretty interesting

>>60678727
Anon kinda creepy to be talking about a minor that way

mint's had VR for nearly a year and still hasn't done the myanmar coup dance

>>60678777
instead of doing react streams she should just do chatting instead. replace all react streams with chatting, no videos, nothing. just the vtuber and me.

>>60678729
iron lung is a neat idea but it really sucks as a game

>>60678727
shes a runner who wants to get her uterus removed. probably not

>>60678611
That's kind of boring though, and also a waste. The bugtubers have some of the most interesting designs.

>>60678113
have a cute gif.

>>60678584
My issue is I have Paint and a mouse and Vesper dress is just impossible to get right with the meme I am inserting her as. But it makes it more authentic in this case since it is just a silly shitpost.

>>60678565
>huge numbers of kpop stans
who are 90% women, and provide a large chunk of the audience of successful male vtubers
saying male vtubers can't be idols because idols are (female) vtubers isn't much of an argument

>>60678865
want to suck on her tiiiiiiits

>>60678867
I wonder if she's going to get her own model soon

Did anyone else see this insane message in meat's chat?

>>60678892
You're retarded and deliberately dancing around the topic. Use your brain to figure it out. I'm not explaining this basic shit to you.

>>60678730
Good job anon

The world would become a better place if filian shit her pants in her sleep and made Layna clean it

I was denied thanks to grand strategy autism

>>60678857
It's like 45 minutes, it's a good game on it's own if you just settle and get immersed and don't have to entertain a crowd.

>>60678919
Naiyo will suck on yours first

>>60678944
Wow that is crazy, why would anyone post that?