/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>60622505
too late. mouse is already in their dm's and restricted collabs or communication will be even more incentive to leave

>>60622505
Based if true, let the ship sink by itself

>>60622725
Remember, Vshojo indoctrination psyops work 24/7 to turn your oshis into Western whores who will sell backpacks in the name of GunRun almighty.

>>60622505
I’ll be real, i don’t give a flying fuck about vshojo or nijisanji, but the fact that vshojo explicitly poaches talents from other agencies feels like a good way to get hololive and nijisanji to turn on them. If they want to have a good relationship with those two companies, constantly threatening to steal their talents probably won’t help

This is insider info but mouse is in the process of poaching ollie right now. which is why she has been talking about graduating lately.

>>60622505
>multiple arms
It was already happening... the roachening.

>>60625713
Fuck i dont want her… can we get chama instead

>>60625542
>constantly threatening to steal their talents probably won’t help
Niji and Cover should pay their talents more

>>60622505
Ollie next, then Kiara. They’ve both talked about moving to Twitch recently.

>>60626663
Cover paid their talents a combined $31 million last year and their top 20 talents all made over a million dollars. Nobody's going to be quitting hololive over money.

>>60626663
Cover will not lose talents because of pay issues.
IF they lose talents to Vshojo it would be because they don't want to deal with management but that is a lot better than Niji too so it's unlikely Hololive will have anything to fear from Vshojo. In some ways they are not even direct competitors like Niji are.

i wonder if she'll finish MGS3

Vshojo offering better contracts and management conditions is a legitimate for of market competition. Any accusations of "poaching" only benefit the corpos who seek to suppress chuuba compensation and impose strict management rules. Why should you be required to blackball an employee just because they worked previously for another Corpo? If anything it's extremely business smart to hire employees with proven success like that.

>>60623482
Poaching is a standard busy practice. Fishman, the CEO of phase connect said so.

>>60627891
*Business
Fucking phoneposting

>>60627891
I wouldn't even call it poaching, it's not like they're bringing them away with exorbitant gifts and sign-on bonuses, they're literally just offering a better employment contract

>>60626959
except for Coco loco

>>60628028
She overestimated her value.

>>60622505
YOU WILL BE SAVED

>>60625713
Taking in another failure? Who cares after one week?

>>60622505
Vshojo and Niji still seems to be in good terms. I can go on so far to say that both corpos are in on this "poaching" process. Niji can offload anyone who wants to leave without much drama (at least more than usual) while Vshojo can get talents with an already established fanbase. The graduations that were happening were already planned months before and I think the onboarding to Vshojo was also included. But then again, I'm not a businessman, only a schizo

>>60622505
>Nijistaff are seething so hard right now
proof this thread?

>>60628028
She wanted to do more literal whore related/irl stream stuff (she's barely a Vtuber as is nowadays) so of course she wanted to leave.

>>60627071
She implied she would like to replay the MGS games she's played already, and play the rest as well after that

>>60628028
she is the exception that proves the rule, and she's taken a big step down because of it.

>>60632062
holokeks are so delusional they think a banishment room in their black company is better than literally achieving your dream

>>60632062
Maybe when it comes to money but she fulfilled her dream of winning the Yakuza competition and being added to the game and she doesn't have to deal with management making things harder for her than it has to be.

>>60632217
>>60632311
>SHE FULFILLED HER DREEAAAAAAMMMM
how often do you guys repeat this to each other in /vsj/? does it make you feel better about the complete failure of her streaming career?

>>60632409
People will keep repeating it while it continues to be true and you mfs continue to ignore it

>>60632409
>does it make you feel good that she achieved her life goal and is happy now outside of the hellhole that is kurolive?
yes. yes it does.

>>60632409
She still earns well though? Are you just a retarded numberfag or something?

>>60631174
>Niji can offload anyone who wants to leave without much drama (at least more than usual)
Because it looks so great to have talents talking about how miserable and burnt out they were previously

>>60622725
nijien killer I kneel

>>60632217
on the other hand, it took literally a banishment room for months to force her to quit. If a holo talent doesn't face something like that, and none has since, they won't quit.
>>60632311
pretty small dreams compared to what was possible in Hololive. A game appearance would have been just the beginning. Also rest of Hololive deals with management just fine thank you. I think the problem was with her. She doesn't push the envelope any more though, kinda boring now.

>>60622505
KEK you guys are saying this shit since kson and nazuna joined.

>>60632879
>pretty small dreams compared to what was possible in Hololive.
yea the mascot that she doesn't own could have been plastered on ads for a tourism agency. she really missed out.

>>60632879
I'm not saying Hololive is bad or anything.
But Coco wanted out so it was the right decision for her.

>>60622505
Literally have a collab this week

>>60625713
KEK good one. Vshojo won't hire Ollie because they only hire people that get good CCV.
See how their "auditions" were a fucking scam.

>>60633031
>KEK
>a noomber chart
jesus christ how embarrassing

>>60633031
Man, number monkeys really do hate Vshojo huh?
Pretty disgusting to mock a hololive talent like that btw.

>>60633083
If you think they'll hire the runt of Hololive when they won't even hire their orbiters that get 5 times her views, you're fucking delusional.
Vwhores forgot she exists just like all the other twitch e-celebs.

>>60633012
big cope about a bit part as a hostess. she still lives in the mascot's shadow.
>>60633014
sure, that's fine, but don't act like it isn't a big step down.

>>60625713
God I want them to take her. Please take her we don't want her.

>>60627749
This.
But /vt/ anons are too much of corporate dicksuckers so they have to frame it from the perspective of their favorite companies and call it “poaching” as if it’s a bad thing somehow.
In actuality it’s just called competition. Hololive and Nijisanji don’t own their talents indefinitely, and the talents should not have the expectation in their minds that they have to stay stuck with those companies forever even if they are being treated very badly. It’s okay to move on if you’re being treated like shit by your company and you come across a better offer.

>>60633474
>sure, that's fine, but don't act like it isn't a big step down.
It depends on what you value.
Less money but more freedom and owning her IP can be a reasonable trade off.

>>60633474
it's only a step down if you pretend that her dream was not actually her dream, and project your own desires onto her by pretending that her real dream is to excel in your idiotic hobby of numberfagging. you may as well also make fun of her for not going pro in the MLB or becoming a championship rock climber or other random shit she doesn't care about. you guys are so ridiculous but your heads are so far up your own asses that you can't see how silly it is.

>>60627749
>better contracts and management conditions

>Their number 2 and 3 fucked off because of "bad contracts"
>Another one fucked off because off drama over a silly wizard game
>Nazuna is basically graduated and returned to being an indie
>Kson only gets good views when she coombaits. All her most popular clips on twitch are panty shots, tit groping and feet shots. Her fanbase is now composed of coomers.
Only nijiENs have it so bad that they might join.

>>60634042
>because of "bad contracts"
catalog brain.
Their contracts were never bad, they just got a competitive offer from mythic and didn't feel much attachment to the other talents.

>>60634961
Sure I'll ignore Vei's own words and believe what I can only assume is a paid vshojo shill.

>>60634042
it's funny to see catalogfags doomposting over rrats when the group is literally thriving and debuting huge talents one after the other. also
>admitting to being a clipwatcher
lol

>>60635121
Vei never said the contracts were bad.
inb4
>let your lawyer look over your contracts = bad contract
even Ironmouse said the same.

>>60635121
You should ignore Vei's words. She's retarded.
t. occasional vei watcher

>>60634042
cute copy paste
sorry no one gave a shit the first time you posted it freerent-anon

>>60628026
It's still poaching. They made the talent perform an action they wouldn't have done otherwise within a specific timeframe. >Quit/Runout Contract>Join competing corpo. It's poaching and Fishman is correct. It's a valid business move.

>>60638165
A bar down the street poached me from Mcdonalds by making a better burger

>>60622505
>should we start treating our talent better?
>nah, we'll just forbid them from collabing with better agencies!

>>60638315
there’s a nijien and vshojo collab happening this week retard, there’s no collab bans happening

>>60638973
Yeah. They can't cancel already planned collabs.
Collabs are planned weeks ahead of time.
Just wait a month for those to go through and see how outside collabs dry up.

>>60638273
If they actively advertised it and you saw it yeah. They "poached" a customer.

>>60639123
Yeah totally sis. I’ll see you in a few months for the first Matara and Pomu collab!

>>60640162
Imagine the bait threads if niji actually allows a collab with a graduated chuuba before holo does

>>60623482
Holy based competition in the free market of talent

>>60625713
We can save her, bring home the zombussy

>>60625713
You can have her

>>60640162
You won't

>/#/chimps were bragging about how vshojo would get completely blacklisted by vshojo
>immediately afterwards rosemi raided henya on stream

>>60640639
>vshojo would get blacklisted by nijisanji
Sorry. Even thinking about /#/ turned me into an ESL.

>>60640691
kusa

>>60640639
>vshojo would get completely blacklisted by vshojo
Woah...anyway let's hope Rosemi gets saved from kurosanji too.

Vshitshow has been sucking the glue out of windowframe for over a year now. Pink cat and sodas girlfriend didnt leave for nothing. 3% marketshare in vtubing, endless REEACK streams and sleeping streams can only get you so far when you only hire guntsons windowlickers and Rikus sloppy seconds. It would be tragic if it wasnt so funny seeing you delusional midwits wallow in the twitch cesspit of rancid shit pretending (You) or the has-beens exploiting your mexican multi level marketing scheme have anything worth to offer to anyone whos not high on bath salts.

>>60641455
now this is some spicy nijiseethe

>>60625713
Ollie would never trade Hololive for whatever Vshojo has to offer.