/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>60583137
It's almost like the big sad "graduation" tradition is really dumb. These are entertainers and some of them will keep having a career after they leave.

>>60583137

>>60583137
you're so close to figuring it out anon, this whole retarded situation is not caused by vshojo
it's caused by the companies that own the graduating vtubers and this is the exact thing that kson is trying to put an end to

I don’t think I’ll ever attend another graduation stream again. At least Sana hasn’t join them.

>>60583381
Such a simple concept, and yet so difficult to understand in this cesspool

>>60583137
Meh it's okay if someone that I like leaves her corpo I know she will behave differently in Vshojo and that's the end for me, in some ways is a good closure for that arc in her life....Is like when a band you like changes their style but you will still appreciate their old albums

>>60583769
Kson should put an end to the coombaiting and open an onlyfans. I'm bored of jacking off to her bare ass and feet. I need to see her sweet tits.

>>60584191
you should put an end to your life monkey

>>60584117
Wonder how long it will take for her to get political.
ETA on her mentioning gaza?

>>60584289
she is going to name the Jews

>>60583137
>Like what is the point for you to have this big fake cry about someone going away if all they are doing is making a switch to different team to make more money.
>le vshojo
isn't it the same when your favorite indi or small company streamer/vtuber ¨ graduates ¨ to join niji or holo?
What is the difference?

>>60583381
Why do you think Mouse is entirely against the idea of graduations and thinks people who treat them like funerals are fucking retards?

>>60584960
Kson is too. She's talked about it a whole lot and how she wants to end the concept of graduations as a whole.

>>60583137
graduation streams tend to make money

>>60583137
>every other time these vtubers graduate it's to make money
Yes, and? That's how the world works, anon, you join a new company to make more money after establishing yourself in a lower position.

people cried for this?

>>60583137
Sana stuck to her guns and quit streaming, mostly because she hates streaming.

>>60585028
Kson wants to just be able to waltz out with someone else's IP, which ain't ever happening. There was a company called Cyberlive that tried that, you can guess where they are now.

>>60584878
No cause when you go from indie to one of the big three it's understandable. Because that's like going from many of them making some nice side hustle money to making enough money to approach millionaire status at the end of their career. You are already known and you have a name and you have fame so now you are only looking for bunko bucks

>>60584960
Let's be real they hate it because of numbers, they want the person's old popularity to be part of vshojo....Graduations kill that because a good portion of the fanbase doesn't follow

>>60583137
There's literally no point in watching graduation streams at this point. All those tears and farewell SC's wasted on an avatar change.

>>60583137
>>60583381
>>60584960
>>60585028
>>60583946
It's not the rm graduating, it's the character. If you think the real person behind it is all that matters you might want to watch fleshstreamers instead.

>>60584191
If you were a gropeable woman within fifteen feet of her, you'd have already seen them.

>>60583381
Graduation is the japanese workaround of quitting or being let go, as those things equate to a turnaround in employment %, which them could be seen as black marks

Also it REALLY plays to sympathy bucks from lonely faggots

>>60583769
>this is the exact thing that kson is trying to put an end to
Nice joke, anon.

>>60585636
>it's the character
99% of the time the character begins and ends with the avatar design

Just listen to Matara.
She hasn't changed at all.

When someone graduates they die. It's as simple as that.

>>60585513
lol this retard again
she has never said that

It is kind of ending a part of your life and relationship with old friends. Also graduation buff gives you a ton of attention and money so why not milk it

It feels like she lied to us. Taking a break and taking care of her mental health was travelling around the globe to meet all the NijiENs and then getting reborn as a Vwhore cockroach. I won't buy anything she says anymore. It's over. At least for me it is.

>>60583137
Omg moooom we’re time looping again

>>60583769
>this is the exact thing that kson is trying to put an end to
Funny how she made bank on her graduation.
Kson is a giant hypicrite and I can't believe people still take her seriously. She instantly betrays her own "values" when there's money to be made.

>>60585636
you're the one who doesn't understand
kson knows how much the characters mean to people and that's why she doesn't want them to disappear for dumb reasons like this

>>60585893
>It feels like she lied to us
How? She couldn't possibly have told you what the plan was.
If you were paying attention, it was clear she'd come back.
And it's not a surprise it's in VShojo.

>>60585960
how is that hypocritical???
i don't understand this chimp logic

>>60585960
Wtf is a hypicrit is that a pokemon? Hypi hypi!!!! Hypicrit!!!

GOD I WANT HER TO GIVE ME A HANDJOB SO BAD

>>60585893
>It's over. At least for me it is.
just make sure your parents dont have to find your body fag, thats messed up

>>60585893
bro don't take it like that, of the things she's mentioned before and now, she wanted to do things that were more "her" rather than "this is what vtubers/trends do", like the book club and such and probably she was forbidden from doing this things and now she can, and that's why when she graduated she was sad because i imagine she would've liked to do those things with her older colleagues

Since there is no such thing as leaving the vtubing game and many of these people flunked out of college, work , or trades school what it should be called when a vtuber leaves a company to go indie or to go up to vshojo and to keep the school theme alive they should be called dropouts. Like if you left nijisanji you should be called nijisanji dropout or if you left hololive you should be called a hololive dropout

Shes happy crying boys i cant take this

>>60586259
the fired ones are dropouts, the ones who leave properly are graduates, at least it's logical

>>60583769
kson wants people to join a corpo, build a fanbase because of the corpo and, throw a graduation pity party to rake in cash and then bail. Orc man and professor fag will join Vshojo next.

>>60586259
I love vshojo debuts it always gives me quality grade a seethe

Since there is no such thing as leaving the vtubing game and many of these people flunked out of college, work , or trades school what it should be called when a corpo vtuber leaves a company to go indie or to go up to vshojo or another and larger company and to keep the school theme alive they should be called dropouts. Like if you left nijisanji you should be called nijisanji dropout or if you left hololive you should be called a hololive dropout

>>60586403
no she doesn't
you get bonus points for typing her name in all lowercase though

>>60585975
If she's for giving rms the IP to their avatars, I'm okay with that. Means me and her agree that the characters are what's important, unlike >>60585750

>>60586408
Wouldn't the better term be transfer student?

>>60585893
Nah not at all. She did take a break. She largely talked about how the antis were what kept her down and waited until the dude whose fanbase was responsible for some of the biggest antis filtered his audience to the point where nobody who used to watch him still would, to debut.
That said I probably won't watch her because I hate twitch with a passion. If she ever streams on YouTube though I'm instantly membering.

But fuck twitch with their bullshit ads, shitty ass 50% cuts and shitty ass mobile app.

When vtubers graduate they're effectively dead to me, I'm sorry bitch but I'm not following you into your descent into total whoredom when you don't have an agency making sure you don't expose your repulsive true self.

>>60586228
She wasn't forbidden from doing a book club but Mystakes would have antid every single book she chose. Spammed on Twitter about how bad it was and then she'd have like 2 people show up to it.

>>60586533

>She jumped into a trashcan are you seething?????
I'm happy for you.

>>60583137
>big fake cry about someone going away
To squeeze those depressed fans dry of their money before she goes

>>60586533
Just admit you don't actually like vtubers, but the myth the companies sell you

>>60586014
>How?
By throwing everything under the bus while pretending to care. Almost as if she was acting the whole time... hmm...
>>60586078
I won't watch her. The person I liked or cared about is gone or never really existed. That's all.

>>60585028
>Kson
she milked her graduation for nearly 7 figures and now she wants to pull up the ladder behind her? Gtfo

>>60586703
Vtubers ARE the myth the companies sell you. But yeah I hate women too :)

>>60586533
Me when I'm a fan of the company and not the vtuber

Now how many of (you) youtube watchers will switch over to twitch to watch her?

>>60586746
>The person I liked or cared about is gone
Schizo moment
She's right fucking here, exactly the same as she ever was

>>60586815
pssssst
hololive milked the graduation

>>60586886
If her streams are like Henya's where it's 80% dealing with TTS donations talking about their day and trying to make her talk about her PL, then no.

>>60586628
such sour grapes case

>>60586886
You know honestly speaking why is twitch better for vtubers when it's worse for most streamers? Like they lost a ton of big names in the year alone but if you're a vtuber YouTube is a death sentence to grow on

>>60586849
I'm a fan of the vtuber, not the stupid bitch who voices her.

>>60584191
>>60584286
>t.

>>60586849
>vtuber
You mean her roommate or whatever because a fox is not a cockroach. Two different vtubers. Just watch fleshtubers at this point if you don't care.

>>60586827
Based

>>60587053
>>60587079
Both of you are so retarded it hurts

There is no difference between the vtuber and the person behind it.

>>60586703
Anon that's just vtubers in general

>>60587164
There's a huge difference. A vtuber is a product created through the work of a company/agency, an artist, and the person behind the vtuber. The person behind it is just one part of a vtuber, twitch tranny.

To be honest im most upset about is that I cant jerk off to that lame ass bug model

>>60587049
Community features are much better on Twitch.
And considering the 99.99% of vtubers that are not Hololive or Nijisanji, those community building features are a godsend for building a base.
It's not even just vtubers, but streamers in general. You just don't see the millions of 1 view fleshtubers

>>60587284
Your concept of what a vtuber is died years ago.
Ironically, Niji popularizing livestreaming over scripted videos helped kill it.

>>60587284
>the work of a company
gives you a loan of $3000
>an artist
draws a picture over the course of 2 days
>and the person behind the vtuber
this is the only one you actually interact with

>>60587417
I don't care about your idiotic redditbrain verbal trickery. The company is as important as the actor, since they can dictate the general direction of the content.
>>60587432
I don't interact with them because I'm not a retard who throws money at whores.

>>60587376
>Community features are much better on Twitch
kek this twitchschizo really believes this.

>>60587682
Explain how I'm wrong besides "Twitch bad"

>>60583137
kek, OP gave her sc for her retarded graduation

>>60587768
he's gonna tell you something about numbers, watch.

>>60587768
Fingers crossed that the next Vwhore concert will be streamed on Twitch!

>>60587417
Ironically, NijiJP had a lot of livers treating vtubing as a form of storytelling, even with the livestreaming format, but of course there's no way you retarded shitflingers would've known about this

>>60587613
>The company is as important as the actor
It absolutely is not. And most of the English-speaking vtubing industry operates without a company "directing their content."

>>60587682
Ask yourself why everyone who leaves their company winds up streaming on Twitch instead of YouTube.

>>60587768
Can you watch years old member only streams and read all the old community posts on twitch? What are the community features that make twitch better? le funny emotes you can spam on other streamers streams?

>>60587890
That's why most English speaking vtubing is garbage full of grifter whores preying on lonely men. Now you realize why companies are so important.

>>60587877
>speaking in past tense
So what you're saying is that it's over and has been for a long time

>>60587049
Twitch isn't "worse for most streamers", it's worse for a small number of incredibly popular streamers who get offered better deals elsewhere.

>I was burnt out so bad I joined vshojo
jesus niji get your shit together

>>60583769
thats why miguel is back to her mikeneko streaming instead of nazuna huh, i wonder why did she have to change it to join vshojo

>>60587955
Take your meds

>>60588032
You take your meds simp

>>60587890
>everyone who leaves their company winds up streaming on Twitch instead of YouTube
hahaha no

>>60587824
Never gave her a superchat I barley even watched her beyond some clips. I'm just upset by the precident this sort behavior. Like are we going to end up with every vtuber spending about 2 years to build up enough money to make their indie / vshojo debut. Like I don't care about her I care what effect this can cause down the line with other vtubera

>>60588024
She didn't
Nobody knows why she made Nazuna

>>60588024
>Trying to apply logic to Mikeneko/Nazuna
See, there's where you went wrong.

>>60588091
>no you can't continue your career after leaving your company!!!
>if you want to keep doing it, stay in the same company, even if you're not happy there!!!

>>60588351
An unimaginable amount of people follow this, cause they assume the moment they leave their job that they will be homeless.

>>60583137
OP is a retard.
I will explain to you why it still is emotional for Nijilivers atleast: Nijisanji will not let her collab with her old friends. She will never ever be able to work with them until they do not work under the Nijisanji umbrella.
Leaving Nijisanji is basically leaving a work cult but you still get to write letters to each other from time to time.

>>60587914
I will give you vod archives and static community posts being better on YouTube.
Of course when I speak a lot of these features, these are less for the massive streamers and more for the smaller to mid tier streamers that are on the platform.
Outside of emotes, here's what I like about Twitch that's integrated by default or took longer for YouTube to add:
>Raiding(Took longer for Youtube to add)
>Much easier to browse and find other live streamers
>Live Clip Creation and Sharing
>On website extensions, several for direct viewer interaction
>Channel point commands and redeems
>Built in watch parties where you won't get flagged for showing the movie(unfortunately requires Prime)

These are just off the top of my head. Generally, YouTube is built better for static content and Twitch for more live/interactive stuff and that's fine. Both platforms have their merit

>>60583769
Kson is the worse offender of making graduation a huge deal

>>60588351
Look I don't want to watch fake bitches. I don't go to the internet to what equates to reality TV/wrestling where things are staged and people are fake. I like to watch when I know there is real friendships between two people. What is the point of watching something that is fake? If you want me to like the idea that essentially I should embrace things being fake why would I want to consume that

nobody was asking you to fucking bawl over your favorite virtual anime girl quitting a job. you are a grown fucking man please act like it

>>60588733
heh, good one

>>60588064
Lick the boot harder corpo worshipper

>>60588091
If companies are worried about their workers leaving, maybe they should make working there better.

>>60588721
anon 4chan isn't real we're all payed to post with you wake up

>>60588901
Sure simp. Hope she sees this

>>60588721
>What is the point of watching something that is fake?
all vtubers are fake, why are you even here

The vshojobots being paid to raid 4chan again what a shock

>>60588966
Most people have to deal with really issues and will have to work from dusk until dawn or work in really stressful situations. how hard is it to play video game and talk? If you don't like your coworkers it's not necessary to be a fake person just avoid it. Besides that silvervale eluded to that she had to fake being besties with iron mouse and some of the the other vshojo members . So maybe it was just Nina who had issues

>>60588721
What, exactly, about this makes you feel that she's fake?

>>60589286
>he thinks Nina left Nijisanji because of the other members
You fucking idiot, it was about management

>>60584960
Based latina ferrous rattus

>person mentions burnout and management as their reason for leaving
>returns months later after dealing with the burnout and under new management
This is bad how again?

>>60588983
>Doesnt actually care about the one who makes the content he enjoys and consumes, only cares for his favorite brand
The perfect braindead consoomer lmao

>>60584191
>>60585960
>>60586403
>>60588024
>>60588630
Why instead of making stupid comments don't you ask him to put the source?
Fucking retards with their heads up their asses.

>>60589540
Wrong, I only care about the content. You're the one who cares about the brand, specifically the brand of the person who makes the content.

>>60584960
Because it’s still the death of a character. I’ve never followed a corpo vtuber after they became indies, and the few times I recognized an indie joining a corpo, I found it hard to keep following them because their content changed.
The coworkers they interact with and the environment they create does matter. Even for a lot of people who can follow these vtubers into their reincarnations, it’s very different.
So, no, graduations will continue, because people will continue to be sad, because a lot of people like the interactions and dynamics between members as much as they like any particular vtuber’s individual content.

>>60589618
>person appears elsewhere and does the exact same content
>"It's just not the same..."

>>60589618
The person making the content is the content retard.

>>60589464
Is vshojo management that much better they didn't help silvervale when she got attacked by all the trannies on twitter. Iron mouse couldn't even say that the people harassing her were pieces of shit and they should leave silvervale alone.
Like vshojo I don't remember them putting out a tweet to not harass their talents. They just kinda let her get torn apart by a bunch of trannies

>>60589741
They don't you retard. That's the point.
>>60589747
No the content is the streams or videos.

>>60588630
reminder that coco expetected to graduate in march but cover made her push it back 3 months so they could milk her birthday

>>60589765
Most of that took place on Twitter which Silver hasn't used regularly for years anyway.

In a situation like that, agitating the mob with a response is actually not the correct thing to do.

VShojo management is better because they aren't forcing their talents to work until burnout forces them to leave.

>>60589808
Go watch Matara's debut ('cause I'm sure you didn't) and tell me it's any different.

>>60589937
Sorry I'm not talking about nijiniggers, they're generally repulsive to begin with. I meant corpos that prevent their talents from being totally repulsive.

>>60587049
>they lost a ton of big names in the year alone
if you hadn't noticed, youtube has given up on trying to poach twitch streamers
there is a reason everyone who isn't being paid to stream on youtube is on twitch

>>60589808
The streams and videos that consist of the person in question? You aren't a fan of anyone. Just a fan of a specific corporate environment that they've created.

>>60590056
A stream is not a person. I'm not sure how I can make this more clear.

>>60583137
Isn't the thing with Nijisanji that they take a really big cut from superchats and memberships? Wouldn't that give incentive to the company to force a graduation stream?

>>60589765
>Tell talent not to stream game because shitstorm will happen
>Streams game and shitstorm happens
>AHHHH! WHY DIDN'T THEY PROTECT ME FROM THE SHITSTORM?
>WHY DIDN'T THE MORE SUCCESFUL MEMBER DRAW THE SHITSTORM AWAY FROM ME?

>>60589741
>person appears elsewhere
>suddenly has a forced coomer design
>has to pander to the lowest common denominator
>chat has 10 times as many SEAnigs as before
>they're now obligated to collab with vtubers you hate on a weekly basis

>>60590080
A stream is not a person but a person is behind the stream unless you think every corpo stream has a script created by the company

>>60590193
>obligated
>forced
>has to
Oh my God, it's retarded

>>60589937
Wait so you are supposed to let a bunch of mentally ill and mutilated I'll freaks attack one of your employees? Because the backlash to saying fuck you you hurting our talents is too much. So much for muh talent freedom. And no she shouldn't have to endure harassment because she played a game.

That's like saying pikamee graduating was the right thing cause them defending the talents is worse.

So vshojo is no better than nijisanji if they also let a talent graduate because of Hogwarts legacy harassment with sayu

>>60590149
they take 50% after youtube's cut, same as holo. so 35% goes to the talent, 35% to the company, 30% to youtube. I think the only other company that's posted their youtube revenue splits is idolEN and they're a bit more generous to the talent with their split.
what you're thinking of is the 2% meme which applies only to merch. you should browse the catalog a bit less

Twitch is the great SEA filter

>>60590186
So whats the difference between nijisanji and vshojo beyond tax brackets if they both let talents get harassed?

>>60590331
>And no she shouldn't have to endure harassment because she played a game.
I agree.

>That's like saying pikamee graduating was the right thing cause them defending the talents is worse.
Pikamee did not graduate because of HL.

>let a talent graduate because of Hogwarts
Silver did not at any point identify that as a reason for her leaving the company.

I doubt I'll be following afterlife of any Vtubers after they graduate.
I watched a certain Vtuber's RM Twitch stream, like the average e-thot, she spent 20 minutes talking about how cool Connor is and how great it is to be part of his circle.

>>60583137
vjoshou is the retirement plan for EN vtubers

>>60590476
Good heavens, I can't believe she...

... has friends! The very nerve of that rancid wench.

>>60590307
I said from the beginning that the corpo influences the general direction of the content, not that they're writing scripts for every stream. If you can't understand this then I can't help you.

>>60590362
Yeah, I always wondered why Twitch is not popular in the west but it is in SEA, but apparently we filtered out.

>>60590331
Silver did it to herself, she was told it would be better if she didn't play it, but she did it anyway, it was not accident but a personal choice.

>>60590455
>They let talents get harassed

I know you won't be able to comprehend this, but there's literally nothing they could have done for Silver after she chose to play the controversial game. There was no magic switch to make people not mad at her, which is why everyone else avoided playing that game. The fact that you haven't figured this out indicates a room temperature IQ.

>>60590461
So was it the people or the money or Hogwarts cause all of those point to it not being any better than nijisanji.

>>60590846
Who told you that I don't remember anyone saying that. Are you vshojo staff member? Like if you have evidence link it

>>60590975
It was so she could shack up with her boytoy Asmongold and his new streamer org

>>60590476
MALE AIEEEEEEEEEE

>>60590905
They could've made a public announcement that trannies will never be real women which is 100% empirical truth.

>>60590975
If was time to renew contracts and Mythic offered her a more appealing deal.

It's as simple as that.

>>60590476
Remember, Twitch community is essentially no different than Hololive one.
People are not interested in talent; they are interested in community.

>>60590905
Phase connect had a couple of their girls play it so are you saying that a small company like phase connect does more for their talent than big vshojo?

>>60586533
You do realize that every vtuber you watch fake-graduated about 6 months before joining your corpo, right?

>>60591126
That would only increase harassment and damage the orgs reputation.

>>60591268
vshojo is not a corpo.

>>60590362
what blatant bullshit, majority of SEAniggers watch youtube vtubers

>>60591268
Did Phase Connect put out some miracle statement that made people stop being mad at their talent? Or is Phase Connect a niche organization that normies ignore?

>>60591350
How is vshojo not a corpo?

>>60591544
If you watch vtubers you are not a normie.

>>60591551
VShojo operates the way a standard talent agency does. The only difference is the unified branding.

This means they serve exclusively support roles. They may advise, but they do not and cannot demand.
Ultimately they have no control over their talents. The content is driven entirely by the talents, all VShojo does is help them make it happen.

>>60591551
NTA but they're more of a agency for merch and tech support. Much more hands-off with no managerial oversight (except for the menhera).

>>60591307
Yeah and their content changed because of it. I like some PL/RM content like Kiara for example but joining a corp always results in a change, big or small.

>>60591551
IDK. but this is vwhorefags' logic.

>>60591551
they dont own any of the vtubers nor have any say in what they do. They help with merch and sponsorships, thats it.

>>60591611
So it's a niche org in an already niche field. You think maybe that's why no one cares what they played?

>>60591706
>>60591732
Both of you are vshojo homos
You just described a corpo. And didn't vshojo stop nazuna from streaming Hogwarts legacy?

>gave henya the support and 3D concert that her old mom-and-pop job couldn't
>gave kuro help with his taxes when his former workplace told him to fuck off
>gave matara respite after being burned out
GUYS WHY IS VSHITJO SO EVIL?

>>60583920
I still miss her

>>60591268
The phase girls who played wizard game knew what they were in for and knew they were tough enough to tank it (tenma in particular was happy to tell twitter haters exactly what they can do with their opinions, even though she got banned from twitter for it). Silver read the warnings but still thought she could avoid the hate by being really cute and wholesome, and then it didnt work and she broke.

I'm just happy she's back.

>>60591977
>You just described a corpo
What a fucking cope, name a single corpo like vshojo

>>60591813
Are you sure cause there has only been three talents that came in under the vshojo name. Like nazuna still has Mike
Nina, mysta, and pikamee their models were created under vshojo.

>>60591415
>Check out Twitch's streamer rankings
Koreans, Japanese, SEAs
>Find out who is really being filtered

>>60592270
>Nina, mysta, and pikamee their models were created under vshojo.
Irrelevant, vshojo doesnt own them

>playing vtmb in week one
Nobody told me your mom had such good taste, what gives nijisisters?

>>60592270
Probably hime too.

>>60592393
She always had good taste, but never could really play anything because companies like niji/holo need permissions cause of dumb jap laws.

>>60591977
They advised her against streaming it.
There is enough evidence for you to figure out they had no power to stop her from doing it anyway.

>>60592381
Do you know whats in that contract? Every one else in that company owned their models before joining they had a record of success before as indies.

>>60585636
Replacing the VA with a recast was tried for Kizuna Ai, it didn't work.
When the actor has to go beyond acting to a script and do hours and hours of weekly improv with a live interactive audience, the actor and the character become inseparable. It would be like trying to recast Mr. Rogers with the guy from Blue's Clues.

>>60592532
I want to see hard evidence not something that came to you in a dream

>>60592541
Nothing outside what they tell us. They just contracted vshojo to make the models, but the streamers own them.

>>60592628
Nazuna quite literally said, on stream, that management advised her against streaming Hogwarts Legacy.

>>60592493
No, hime had her model in the works before joining.

>>60592541
Henya has confirmed multiple times that she owns her model and IP and will always be Henya forever, even if she left VShojo one day.

>>60592628
You can find it on X

>>60592270
>mysta
No, vshojo didnt make his model. He literally told us the artist and rigger during his stream...

>>60592611
>It would be like trying to recast Mr. Rogers with the guy from Blue's Clues.
as someone who loved both of those people as a kid, I would have loved that

I'm just hoping she pulls an Ironmouse and changes her base model ASAP

>>60592815
Do I know y? And what the constants are?

>>60592913
https://twitter.com/AmemiyaNazuna/status/1628740494540021760

Disregard that I suck cocks

>>60585893
Nina literally told us during her graduation stream that she planned on playing all of the Metal Gear Solid games again in October. Then someone asked her if she'll finish them off-stream, she said no.

And did you notice that she didn't have a stream to say goodbye to her fans, but she had a stream to say goodbye to her coworkers?

And there was the fact that all the Vshojo members were tweeting about her graduation.

There were so many hints, bro.

>>60583137
Who is this supposed to be even?

>>60590007
Charlie and Ludwig both got poached this year tho. I think some other big names have slowly started migrating to YouTube too since the 50% cut on twitch subs sucks ass and their constant changes to the tos that they have to roll back within a day are too much for most big names to stay happy

>>60586228
Remember her talking about all of her "projects" getting rejected by management?

>>60593272
I didn't know I was a vshojo fan

>>60586499
get an adblocker, problem solved

>>60592838
I mean recast as in acting like they're the original person. Blue's Clues had multiple hosts over its run but they all had different names and personas.

>>60593496
Ludwig was bought out in like 2021
Charlie wasn't offered a deal, he made the switch himself just to try it and after the first month made a pretty even-handed video comparing the two

>>60593496
charlie was streaming on youtube before twitch. Also the 50% cut isnt a problem anymore cause if you have 350 concurrent subs for 3 months you can get the 70% deal instead.

>>60593496
Ironically Youtube was better off just waiting for Twitch to implode than spending tens of millions of dollars to pull people off Twitch

>>60586886
Definitely. Nina was my favorite vtuber. I just have to make a Twitch account.

>>60593779
>I mean recast as in acting like they're the original person.
I think you picked pretty bad examples then, Steve didn't leave without a word, he explained that he was going to be replaced, and Mr Rogers show wasn't a stranger to teaching kids uncomfortable truths, they 100% would explain why they have a new guy randomly

Maybe if a power ranger got swapped or, well I was going to say anime VA but as a kid this didn't bother me either, it has to be a comparison that applies to adults that care about exact same VA's

I'm done replying so if you want to go put them 40s on the jeep go do it with op that sucks da cock. He seems butt hurt might be because he is a vshojo fan and is used to pegging and being fucked

>>60583137
Short answer: IP
Long answer: You people are too dumb

>Nina
>Yugo
>Mysta
>Zaion
>Vesper
>Magni
>Coco
>Rushia
>Aloe
Each and every single one was called a whore, leech, fujo/unicorn bait, grifter, and/or a wasted slot, and yet when they leave the flip happens to then glorify them
I'll never understand this

>>60587284
She's literally the same character with a different model and a new name. Same voice, same personality. Still joking about her rivalry with Pomu. Still talking about Metal Gear. The only difference in her performance is that she doesn't say "honey" anymore.

Her name is literally "Mother Roach" in Russian.

>>60583137
>a cockroach
Why......

>>60585636
It just isn't, it's about the rm. You can't recast talents in vtubing, it has been tried multiple times and doesn't fly.
It's not like a capeshit movie where you can get someone else to play spiderman and audiences don't really care who it is.

>>60587318
I don't believe you. You post on 4chan, you simp for vtubers, but you don't have a fetish for monster girls?

>>60583734
Your image is a normie twitter moment. Kill yourself.
Bye.

>>60594723
>>60594863
I'm guessing she wanted to be a fox like mysta and her PL, but Gunrunner said too on the nose and they took her backup of "IDK, a roach lmao?" seriously

>>60587877
JP and EN vtuber cultures are entirely different.

>>60594928
She's the one who picked her design and artists

>>60588091
Maybe corpos should treat their talents better.

>>60592393
We told you all the time, but no one would listen because you were all stuck in a time warp of thinking she was just a Luxiem spammer

>>60588721
Sounds like you should be watching fleshtubers. The whole point of vtubers is the fantasy of watching an anime girl

>>60595121
And you can pick your method of execution on death row. The fuck does that have to do with it being her preferred option?

>>60589521
Because she wasn't loyal to her heartless corporate overlords who treated her as disposable

>>60595451
Her preferred option was a roach, she just likes monstergirls more than foxes

It's just not the same after reincarnation whether it be model/voice/content/collab patners/vibes etc. Power to those who can still follow but people get filtered by the smallest change.

.t ex tatsunoko

>>60594306
That's why my actual example was if Mr. Rogers left one day and the next Steve showed up and said "Hi kids, I'm Mr. Rogers." That's what happens with a vtuber VA swap. It's immediately obvious and jarring.

>>60589916
reminder that coco in the end decided to go with that because she, too, wants money.

>>60586499
What antis did Nina have

>>60595577
its ok, casual fan

>>60596196
Fujos for nuzzling up to the males, and unicorns for trying to nuzzle up to the "Elira" Clique

>>60596196
Nina had schizos from debut because they convinced themselves she was a communist.

>>60596279
I figured that's what it was

>>60596196
Rational people were all Nina antis.

>>60596196
Actual seething retards. A combination of Luxiem Fujos and deluded fucks thinking Ethyria is supposed to be pure and sacred.
Ironically Nina is far and away from having actual unicorn in her fanbase because her slutty mom behavior.

>>60596279
Double threat

>>60585960
>hypicrite
It's honestly been awhile since something actually made me laugh out loud. That spelling is absolutely atrocious.

>>60585893
cry some more retarded faggot
If you're so dumb do not get a clue she would reincarnate that's on you

>>60585636
This is the only anon that understands what vtubing really is about.

>>60589765
>Is vshojo management that much better they didn't help silvervale when she got attacked
people cry about this alot
What would be the plan to help Silver when she got attacked?
Holo/Niji method is to put the talent on hiatus and we know that shit don't always work
So what the big gameplan here for Vshojo defense squad?

Silver made her own choice, I commend her for it(specially for the Twitter Freaks™ label on the trannies) but was still her choice to fight the mob

>>60585636
based

>>60594928
>Pomu helped with her idea and which artist to try
>In her monstergirl tierlist stream she was weirdly enamored with the concept of a cockroach girl despite putting Bee-girl on a higher tier

White Fox girl was what she was handed by nijisanji
Pink cockroach girl is what she wanted to be

>>60594917
cope and seethe

>>60595577
>content
>vibes
She will be doing the same content and going for the mom vibe
>collab patners
She collabed with alot of twitch people as Nina.
50% of people you see Ironmouse collabing with, Nina ended up collabing too including the fleshstreamers like sykkuno, scarra and corpse

Anyone that can go past her not being another over-produced-white-fox-with-red-eyes and just install ublock origin(+ a single line of script) will be at home in this disgraceful website called twitch

>>60594714
>People glorifying Magni
LOL

Also most people forget about them unless it's their personal army doing a reputation rehabilitation campaign, like you saw with Rushia, even claiming her stabbing her gen mates in the back by leaking information was Cover's fault.

>>60583137
>Mark slowly starting to understand the business

>>60583137
To be fair... Nina's graduation arc was the best thing that ever happened to her time in NijiEN. Public opinion of her was at its highest.

At the end of the day, she told the lies she had to tell for the best possible transition to her next career. I'm wishing her well. I don't have any interest in Vshojo, but I look forward to all the bug porn.

>>60589517
She's Puerto Rican, there is nothing based about that at all. Puerto Ricans shouldn't even count because they have no country

>>60607241
People already making tons on twitter

How's her debut CCV?

>>60607241
What lies are you talking about?

Fuck Pikamee.

>>60585636
>retarded roasties saying its the RM that matters
Literally why are you even on this board if you think otherwise

>>60592039
because all 3 of those were lying and deceiving us

>>60594917
Your
>Your image is a normie twitter moment.
is a normie twitter moment in itself, faggot.

>>60611472
like 30-35k? Think it reached 40k early on, even

>>60615875
good one anon

>>60585415
She hates doing anything that isn't gachaids related.
Hololive being overwhelmingly banned from the most popular one isn't exactly a good fit for her.
I also know her type all too well.
The depressed [genre] obsessive that sticks to a couple games for a fucking decade like superglue.
Same reason that shithole of a game League is still so popular - literally most of its fanbase is depressed fucking NEETs.
I know THREE OF THEM, well, knew, because all 3 became waster junkies as well. One of them is even an artist. One of those Iofi-type artists who is holier than thou and a "top expert". lol

>>60584960
I dont understand why she would be against them.
It's different if you get to keep your model but if a design is being shelved I understand why it's worth a send-off

>>60617590
Is there no more brand value in Vshojo? Even OperaGX's Vtuber debut earned more CCV.

>>60619349
Aura was embedded in the actual browser, to say her numbers were boosted would be putting it lightly

>>60584960
Ironlung who keeps hiding her whore of a daughter shouldn't have any opinion about it.

>>60583137
It's sad because it's the death of the character, let' say if Pomu graduates to become something else, I at least wouldn't be able to follow her. Pomu (character) is what I love.

>>60619349
>numberfags
>doesn't even know how Aura got her numbers
>SPENDS ZERO EFFORT TO EVEN LOOK UP AURA'S NAME
at least step up and try when you're numberfagging holy shit

>>60589668
This. Kson is nothing like Coco.

>>60620477
yes she is, redditor

>>60586628
Mysta joined V-Shojo?

>>60594879
I'm not saying the rm doesn't matter, to be clear. Ideally they're two crucial part to a whole, and that whole dies with graduation.

>>60620545
K9 Kuro Kurenai, he seems to be happy so far. Kind of making slop streams, which isn't to most people's taste

>>60588721
It's the opposite anon. Girls can talk about sex, say dumb shit and nerd out when they have a facade to hide under. Mouse, Zen, Henya are complete nerds and having an anime girl face makes it easier to say dumb shit without any consequence because they have a vagina/are a tranny.

I unironically like girls not trying to use their body to keep your attention.

>>60591268
who the fuck even watches phase? LMAO

>>60583381
Watching girls cry over someone who they know is simply going to join another company in a few months has really soured me on graduations streams.

>>60585893
Travelling and meeting people IS taking care of mental health for extroverts, retard.

>>60584289
Are vshojo members usually political? I'm not a very committed viewer but I don't think i have heard them being that political? maybe except froot doing some tranny charity, what might qualify as political.

>>60585636
This is the most delusional take I’ve seen.

As long as she keeps the VOD channel up to date and doesn't add shitty obnoxious notifications to the streams I'm going to watch her.
Kson was never that good by herself, she was great at collabs.
Rushia is mentally ill and not in a fun way.
Pikamee can fuck off, the hypocrite.
Mysta is male so I don't give a shit.
Nina is just going to keep streaming kino games and I'm here (on Youtube) for it.

>>60622711
>As long as she keeps the VOD channel up to date and doesn't add shitty obnoxious notifications to the streams I'm going to watch her.
You could have just left it at that, nijitard.

>>60594723
>The only difference in her performance is that she doesn't say "honey" anymore.
She did say it though

>>60619349
40+K is huge on Twitch

>>60586628
but anon its a "well decorated" (debatable) trashcan, you are tots seething tehehe

>>60583137
>>60583381
>>60584960
>>60585028

>>60583137
They will all graduate in two years. NotPikamee, NotMysta, Geega (becomes indie back again?) and NotNina, in the order.

>>60583137
Western Vtubing will never be sustainable

>>60585750
> Just listen to Matara.
> She hasn't changed at all.
and that's exactly why I don't watch EN """VTubers"""

>>60583137
Kson and Nazuna will stary a bit longer.

>>60595577
The environment shapes who you are.
If you have a clean room, you'll be less likely to attempt and make it dirty.
Broken window syndrome is a thing for a reason.

>>60626015
sorry bro NotPikamee (and all the others for that matter) found a home in Vshojo with people who care about them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si1nhr8UDXY

>>60626519
> actually crying about a text-to-speech bot
fucking kek VShojo is the king of unintentional comedy

>>60626519
Is it the joke that she is called a "genius" but she is actually retarded as fuck?

>>60626555
It's alright man im sure with your shitty attitude even you will have friends who care about you like this some day too, until then I hope your oshi makes you as happy as mine does

>>60583137
Reminder that there weren’t many people who watched nina and there was barely a presence of them in the niji threads, now somehow there is a LOT of former “””fans””” of her offended about her joining vshojo.

>>60626681
No she is actually literally a genius, she has an IQ of 999

>>60626681
Yes just like Zentraya calls himself a woman when he is a tranny. They got the whole circus there

>>60594879
>you can't recast talents in vtubing
Because it would be impossible to get someone else to play that same character.
Even in anime, there are people going apeshit insane when they change the VA of a character they like.

>>60626818
And that’s why no one minded when kuro, a male, joined vshojo since there was already one in there.

I'm starting to think you guys make these threads when im getting home from work just to put a smile on my face. Continue to seeth and cry while Vshojo keeps winning and your org festers and falls to ash

>>60583381
>>60584960
This is what it is wrong with EN"vtubing". They don't even understand the culture behind it, to them, it's just streaming with an avatar.
They don't understand why it's called a graduation and they don't understand why people cry in them.

>>60627092

>>60583137
Nijiseething

>>60585960
Take a hike Zhang

>>60627150
We already know you are special. You are a twitch subhuman

>>60627562
and yet my tribe is winning while yours is heading towards extinction, dont worry im sure your oshi will find a nice comfy home on twitch

>>60627686
You sure are "winning" by picking up a hardcore feminist SJW that hates anything anime and its culture and wants to shoehorn BLM shit everywhere (her direct quote). In the end I guess that is the point of Vshojo considering froot is also still around

>>60627092
This. It's just like when your favorite manga gets cancelled.
Sure, the author can just start writing a new one and even make references to the other one, but it's not the same.

>>60627824
Thank you for reiterating that I'm winning, also anime does suck its all about that Warhammer 40k now nerd.

>>60627824
Who wouldnt want a "winner" like this by their side
https://files.catbox.moe/vscr1u.mp3
https://files.catbox.moe/yf3lmt.mp3
https://files.catbox.moe/en7jfu.mp3
https://files.catbox.moe/vv12qc.mp3
https://files.catbox.moe/mnida9.mp3
https://files.catbox.moe/3olzi2.mp3
https://files.catbox.moe/17bwy1.mp3
https://files.catbox.moe/k7n4sr.mp3
https://files.catbox.moe/h7vd3q.mp3

>>60627824
You have been saying the same shit since nina’s debut and you were already proven wrong since long ago.
Don’t you feel any shame?

>>60628012
I listened to the first two and have no idea what you are trying to point out, gonna have to be a bit more concise, but also i dont really care. If I dont like the topic of what someone is talking about, in this case "politics" i guess, I do this novel thing, and just dont watch that content.

>>60628012
disgusting, I tolerated all of this because fox mommy and I thought she changed but she fits right in with Vshojo who harass their fellow employees for wrong-think.

>>60628096
>Men are easy

>>60628096
I sure wonder who was telling Finana all that shit about traps being problematic and how she should be banning that shit. It sure as hell weren't her viewers or her having some sudden revelation one day. These people are born two faced pathological liars and you are clearly either one of them are way too young to even be on the internet.

>>60627984
Your favorite streamer thinks that sigmar is a character in Warhammer 40k.

>>60621825
it's always cringe to cry on camera.

>>60628291
It’s not traps being problematic, it’s the western audience that will make it problematic. It’s better to not touch that subject.
It’s a reasonable suggestion.
>>60628268
She’s right and you know it.

>>60585636
The only real take, both rm and character are important. Kson is nowhere near Coco and Nazuna is nowhere near Rushia, there are also examples of Indies changing model and personality. Rm and character are interconnected if you destroy one the chuba cease to exist.

>>60596196
She had some antis during debut because doxfags found out she talked about politics a few times on stream back in the day and wrote her off as the death of vtubing.
Then when that calmed down finally a lot of Kuros fans antid her back when he was mysta because she tried to make him and vox kiss on stream. He refused to do so because he wasn't actually a gay retard he was just pretending.
His fanbase flipped and would frequently send her death threats, compiled a list of all the stuff they found problematic and spent a year spamming it under every TikTok she made, every tweet she made and even went as far as to spam management with emails. It got to be so bad that she broke down more than once about his fans harassing her and he had to stop collabing with her all together.

The best part was that the entire time this was happening he'd make excuses as to why his fans were "totally not responsible" and it was "just a few bad eggs". Then he made rules to exclude the majority of his fanbase as kuro kek

>>60628938
and yet nijitards can't wrap their minds around why these people would gladly go to a retirement home

>>60629121
Oh I don't think anyone who is an honest fan is upset about Nina leaving, if anything most understood and wish her well in vshojo
People are mainly upset that the same dude whose fanbase was responsible for numerous dox and hate campaigns against her is also in vshojo. The cope vshojosisters tell themselves is that he's changed and that it totally won't happen again