/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>60560579
I expected better from kawaii, they can't afford to have a yab this bad

It's unironically over
What's the point of being a corpo if you can't even weed out the shitters

So, anyone here enjoying kaya's stream or are we just doomposting.

Nami should just fuck off away from this corpo. Disgusting Niji bitch.

>>60561163
>enjoying stream

Case study in how to kill a corpo

>>60561163
>enjoying
I wish she wasn't boring so I could enjoy

>>60561163
Im enjoying it.

>>60561163
I'm not even watching, her week 1 vacation killed all my hype, she is not even trying.

>>60561163
kaya and yuno were Novem kawaiicord pocket streamers, if you enjoy them you are basically outing yourself as one of them. I remember watching their Melon and Neru debut and the chat was literally just the kawaii discord.

I care about one thing. Kawaii can't even give me that one thing.

We will be fine bros, give it a month and we're back on track.

>>60561397
Are you having fun?

>>60561447
This isn't proof.

>>60561462
there is no way to go back from this.

>>60561489
Almost nothing outside of mathematics is proof. It is evidence and compelling evidence at that.

man I just want to talk about Isla and Charzu without the shitposters
this is why I don't like new gens

>>60561489
it is proof.

>>60561533
>It is evidence
Not really.

>>60561578
You don't know what the word evidence means then.

>>60561610
All I see it people talking to each other.

get a room heh

Im only on Nami stream to see if she will talk about it

>>60561644
Why did Chashu delete his interactions if they were innocuous?

>>60561467
No, her stream is low quality trite bullshit. She will go on break in a few days too. I don't even have the parasocial angle to hold on to because they were groomed by the discord AND they may or may not have bfs according to rrats, Reina looks like a pro compared to this.

>>60561667
She won't so don't bother.

>>60561696
Dunno but thats not evidence of anything.

having a boyfriend is recoverable from. look at the entirety of phase connect. being boring is not

>>60561736
If she does I'll be brutally honest

>>60561754
Why did it happen only after /pkg/ started melting down about bf yabs?

>>60561774
not for me. I don't care what cucks do but that's not me and will never be me.

>>60561774
True, being boring is the worst sin

>personally vetted
>day 0 boyfriend yab
i'm tired

>>60561774
they went for boring safe picks to avoid yabs and still fucked up
at least these girls are actual kawaii fans so they won't backstab and leave like gen3, but holy shit they're way too boring and generic

>>60561774
Phase isn't a wannabe idol company like Kawaii

>>60561816
Dunno, doesn't mean anything though.

Kaya is not good at zatsu, I think she will need to go all in on karaoke for a while because this shit ain't it

>>60561903
I could take boring and generic but I can't stand these kinds of yabs, makes me sick.

>>60561936
it does, the more you deflect the worse it looks

>>60561489
unless her boyfriend are sery_bot, streamelements, or fucking pokemoncommunitygame I can't see how this isn't proof

Fact #2 (continuing from the previous thread)
Unicorns complaining don't even make up 5% of the girls viewership.
They almost NEVER donate or buy merch. Some do but they are very very rare. Unicorns want to sit in this thread and bitch about things while not even being membered to their oshi's. The excuse is always "kek imagine spending money on e-thots".
So they want a certain standard from an entertainer without giving them incentives to behave in a certain way.
Over the past 2 years, Charzu, Shee and Isla were super "unicorn" friendly and they barely got any money outside of donothons (donothons were forced just because fans barely give regular donos btw). So you don't put your money where your mouth is and have no right to talk shit about anyone.

>>60562005
that guy isn't arguing in good faith he is just trying to gaslight

>>60561904
And they still have 10 times better singers that do it just for fun.

>Nami 30 viewers
damage is already starting
>>60562055
if that was true nobody would hide their partners

>>60562005
Was there anything saying that they are in a relationship?

>>60562005
>streamelements
That dude is the biggest groomer on the platform. He is literally in every chat.

>>60562154
watchalongs always have less viewers

>>60562055
go to sleep lua

>>60562055
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7ecXBCJOHc

one of the LEAST unicorn pandering streamers from a literal whore company lost over half her income when she announced she had a BF
do you really think the idol pandering, gfe pandering corpo has even LESS unicorns or gachikoi???

>>60562199
see >>60561447

>>60561936
Why does it involve a person who looks to be the only non-bot modded in a low view indie vtuber's chat who talked about her boyfriend being active in her streams?
Why did that person jokingly shift blame about being the cause of a missing trash compactor at Ran's apartment?
Why did Ran respond by "staring" back at this person?
Why did this person not appear to have any activity regarding Kawaii before or seperate from the Hanamizuki debut?

>>60561774
Please understand, modern /pkg/ is built up of holorefugees who came here in the wake of Tempus due to countless "come home unicorn" catalog bait threads.

The worst thing about Kaya and Yuno is that all those discordfags like Novem, Regi, BloodyCondo personally interacted with them when they were in the fancord and now they pretend they don't know them. I remember when they joked about getting Airi in, I guess it worked for the other two girls in that shithole.

The Ran yab is another fucking can of worms... why did they have to make such dogshit picks for this gen. Literally drama for free, /wvt/ corpo style.

>>60562154
>Nami 30 viewers
Not different from her watchalongs in the past year.
Find a better excuse please. Watchalongs are always shit.

>>60561774
We're not called Project Boyfriend for no reason

>>60562232
A lot of questions but no answers.

>>60562306
her watchalongs were never this low

>>60562356
but nobody want to be you, people laugh at you pcgfags everywhere and now we join the club.

How the fuck does one draw "ninja nipple piercings"

Anyways I really shouldn't be doing this at work but oh well I'm the only one here right now anyways.

>>60562471
it's sunday, why are you working

>>60562055
I wonder why they never bring up their boyfriends or that they hang out with MALE friends on stream, other than Nami very occasionally (male friends)... almost like they know it's a debuff? Not enjoying feeling like a third wheel is not "unicorn behavior", it's normal human male psychology.

>>60562407
Yes they are, this is normal for her.

>>60562546
even Nami said her male friends are gay for each other to comfort us.

>>60562537
Anon wants or needs that OT

>>60562216
Enna went from being a 3view to having 2k ccv after Luxiem debuted, to having 6k ccv after cucking her viewers left and right.
I can play this game too.
Mumei and Fauna are now some of the most beloved girls in hololive and considered as "GFE".
Kronii that took a shit on unicorns and the idol crowd still gets more supas than Mumei and her 3D showcase had more ccv than both Fauna and Mumei.
Check the playboard. Mori is the most superchatted Holo EN.

>>60562537
I get to choose my own hours, and there's nobody else at the office on Sundays so I usually just work it because I can just watch whatever I want while I work then take a random weekday off.

>>60562594
>28ccv
wtf?

>>60562594
False, she is usually 50+ on debuff streams.

>>60562055
embarassing normalfag, go infest a different hobby

>>60562300
I honestly don't understand you fags, you schizo for multiple threads about how ran is a whore for having a boyfriend, and when you get confirmation that the other 2 also have long time bf's the thing you latch onto is that they used the fan discord before. You anons hate more name fags over being cucks?

>>60562744
Wrong, its a watchalong and also people slowly trickle in.

>>60562744
False. 50+ for boring JRPG's. Even less for watchalongs. I watched quite a few movies with Nami and they always perform terribly.
That is why I called Reina a retard when she suggested a Twilight watchalong with Hanamizuki. Reina could be one of the dumbest girls I ever saw in vtubing. It's like just shut the fuck up and stop suggesting things.

>>60562729
Also I get paid by the hour and I've already done all of the work practically so I'm "working"

>>60562725
>6k ccv
stop the cap, not even holos have a constant 6k streams, she has 900 to 3k to streams and going lower by the day, unicorn damage is slow, right after it happens the views don't go down and sometimes even increase, then they double down and scar their channels forever with 0 chance for recovery.

>>60562872
imagine obsessing over numbers so much that you cant even enjoy streams

>>60562857
watchalongs are the opposite, it goes down once the movie starts, it will go even lower.

>>60562725
>Enna farming Nijicuck audience
>fau and moom were the only ones streaming basically
>Kronii merch never selling out, 3D showcase hard carried by wada coombaiting model
>Mori "lean arc" and "condom money for conner" Calliope
Not sure if anti, all of this is trash behavior

>>60562725
If you want to turn kawaii into nijiEN sure, encourage Enna behaviour
Fauna had absolute shit numbers in the beginning
Kronii has been last ever since the homo arc in merch sales(the metric that actually matters instead of SC)
Mori's numbers fucking TANKED only until recently when she stopped her homo collabs because graduations, also her SC game has been bad since the homo collabs, don't pull out the numbers from year 1

>>60562055
I will say that Charzu's earnings from SLs seems pretty low. I'm in the top 10 despite only donating around $1000. The girls in general don't earn much which is why most of them work full time jobs and only do this part time.

Looks like Nami won't touch the topic, I'll just drop out

>>60562913
>damage is slow
Yeah because they don't even make up 5% of the total audience. It's just shitposters on /vt/ that will make you think how unicorns are carrying vtubing.

>>60562782
Yuno and Kaya don't have ironclad proof of bf like Ran. They have a history with the kawaii fancord though.

>>60561774
Literally no one in Phase interacts with their bf on main, the majority of them can still be given the benefit of the doubt at least. This is just unacceptable, especially for an actual idol company.

>>60563128
holy cope

>>60562055
this is the anti-unicorn schizo from /#/ who blames everything bad the homobeggars did on the unicorns instead

>>60563032
>Kronii merch never selling out
I am sure that she is devastated by it considering that most of the merch money goes to cover. Only voicepacks give a good chunk of the money to the girls. I'd rather get superchatted a lot.

Will you guys even watch Yuno's 2.0 at this point?

>>60562910
Nerd now that you are here and kinda free, mind drawing the green one getting a money shot on the forehead? thanks

>>60563234
yeah I'm looking forward to her revealing herself as Mel

>>60563074
>(the metric that actually matters instead of SC)
To the management maybe. But who gives a shit about them?
>don't pull out the numbers from year 1
TT collab was literally at the beginning of her career. Connor arc was somewhere in the middle and she still continued to be superchatted a lot.

>>60563234
I have nothing concrete (other than her being a discordtroon whore) against Yuno. She is fine as long as she is not boring and all over the place like Kaya. Those two felt like 1view vtubers before I knew of their PLs, it all makes sense now.

>>60563234
I've watched Kaya's, so there's no reason to not watch Yuno's.

>>60563189
Great argument chap. You can't convince me that 90% of the third world SEA and Latino teenagers in the chat are all unicorns.

>>60563287
you are late on the rrats, she is Furiko Neru. Mel rrat is dead.

>>60563453
Mel rrat never had any leg to stand on in the first place and was only pushed by Mel herself.

>>60563234
I will watch Ran's because I'm a reddit contrarian.

>>60563261
I can try, cum is probably pretty hard to do on the ballpoint pen. But why on the forehead and you mean the oni right?

>>60563229
nice goalpost moving, you really are that homobeggar numbernig

>>60563234
>>60563234
I'm not even looking forward to watching my oshi anymore (Lua)
Hanamizuki made me doubt the direction Kawaii is going

>>60563540
Yeah, that's the one

I hope Ran does GFE, it would be really fucking hot

At least Mel wouldn't have been boring

>>60563451
all men are unicorns, they just cope to be nice and simp for attention, until they realize it's not fun to get cucked and quietly switch to a chuuba that respects them better. There is a reason Holo top is all unicorn friendly the only exception is suisei.

>>60563573
>2 discord 0view vtubers from kawaiifans
>1 clueless opsec retard flirting with her boyfriend on twitter
seems like a joke gen

I HATE RAN

>they actually hired those discordtroon pocket vtubers
auditions were down grim

>>60563704
This makes me so sad, I was really looking forward for hanamizuki.

>>60562782
Being in discord is unironically worse than the bf shit. They can be married or total whores but as long as they keep that shit off stream who cares? They might not even do GFE so its nothing but being in the discord goes against everything Kawaii has said about it. All that anti discord shit and no fan interaction gets thrown out the window so who the fuck can you trust now? I really hope Nami had nothing to do with the picks because she is the most anti fandiscord which would make her the biggest fucking liar in the world.

>Havent been on /vt/ for over 24 hours because visiting family
>Just came back

Thankfully Nami is GFE

>>60563987
Auditions may as well never happened

I wonder if my Oshi will miss me if just quietly leave.

>>60563688
All men definitely don't see every single woman out there as a potential partner. You gotta be a turbo desperate lonely faggot and also a massive bitch to have that mindset. Which is what unicorns do. They act like massive insecure bitches all the time.
>one minor interaction
>faints on the couch like a 19th century damsel in distress
Fuck off. What kind of "men" even are these people?

>>60564068
>They can be married or total whores but as long as they keep that shit off stream who cares?
Unironically this, just keep the kayfabe it's amazing so many women fuck this up

>>60564148
She doesn't even know who you are

>>60564157
Never said they did, unicorn isn't about being a potential partner.

>>60563586
Same

>>60564067
>/pkg/ is dead 99% of the time
>yab happens
>all these "old" kawaii fans keep popping up coming back from a "long vacation" or <insert any other exuse> and wanting to timeloop drama
heh

>>60564157
Men who don't buy chicks condoms for other dudes.
That's all I want. To not spend time or money on a chick that's fucking other dudes. Even if they are if they don't let me find out I don't know any difference and assume the best.
I've explained it a dozen times now.
Nobody wants to third wheel and support another guy getting laid while he sits at home alone.

>>60563128
Whales in kawaii carry the entire company and are all unicorns... You do understand where you are right?, this isnt holo where they have 1000's of fans to offset any potential yabs. Kawaii has about 400-500 real dedicated fans split between the girls, if you have 60 dedicated fans and 20 are your whales/unicorns losing them could potentially end the ability of a girl to support herself. Its very different here compared to other big corpos

>>60564196
They don't need me then.

>>60564278
> all these
There are 38 IP's in this thread right now. We're unironically core /pkg/

>>60564068
>but being in the discord goes against everything Kawaii has said about it
It doesn't, unless they continue being in fancords after joining Kawaii. It's very common for girls who join corpos with restrictions on fan interactions to have had much looser personal boundaries in PLs.

Stupid weeb whores graduate the whole gen and start again.

>>60564148
As someone who did this awhile ago after being a full supporter for over 2 years, id say no. Tho she may miss your presence slightly she has to keep going so you just get replaced by another. Its why ive learned my lesson about giving my money and time to this kind of thing. Now i just lurk periodically for free while i gym or game

I love agency vtuber (virtual YouTuber) Ms. Lua Asuka of Production kawaii Generation 2 (novamore)
https://youtu.be/k5cM-S8G4RQ?t=4958
https://youtu.be/L-hUs3lac5E?t=2298
https://youtu.be/tisDJbuJQ6c?t=15557
https://youtu.be/YkK8Qyb2Jxs?t=693

May I ask who the fuck that Novem guys is if he's been around for a long time, is NOT a part of the management. Somehow manages to host an "official" kawaii fan server even after all the yabs that came out of that discord, and in the end, 2 of the girls come out of there as gen 4 talents? Who the fuck is that guy and why is he around kawaii for so long? Is he one of the girls friends?

https://youtu.be/6wxCuq2OltE

>>60564408
So what you think they'll just forget the people they met who basically got them this job and wont interact now?, give me a break. These girls are now insiders and 100% are on secret discords with the groomercord fags.

>>60563704
A lot of applicants probably pulled out after the gen 3 graduation

i'm sorry for calling nene a whore

>>60564660
Nene is still a whore but good at lying and keeping kayfabe, unlike Ran.

>>60564662
The auditions happened after the gen 3 walkout

>>60564558
Ive asked myself the same questions, why do these guys have access to kawaii staff and why allow this server to even exist. No fans should be mods no fans should have any power over others

>>60563582
>>60563261
Had a damn near heart attack while doing this one because I heard a door slam but it was on the floor above, lmao.

>>60564643
>So what you think they'll just forget the people they met who basically got them this job
Random discordfags did not get them this job

>>60564835
lol, anyway looks good nerd. Thanks for the drawing

>>60564823
Looks like Hide, from management, dropped on their voice chat recently, some fishy business is going on

Hey jannies stop fucking warning people who mention rans bf yab, she talked to him using her official corporate vtuber account so its not irl or off-topic.

>>60564823
I think Kawaii management is non existent. Furi and Kaolin appear once in a blue moon. We didn't see or hear Koshita ever since he recorded a bday message for Charzu.
Ran made fun of the management in her debut for being an "idol" company based in Japan and not even knowing what a nendo is. That really says a lot who is running this corpo.

>>60564408
The difference is that they are from the Kawaii fan discord. Did you miss the le heckin epic secret knowledge jokes they did earlier? Its bullshit. I don't know how this stupid company let this happen.

>>60564881
they were not random, Regi Makise, Novem, Luxter and Shirgler were talking with Melon and Neru back in August.

>>60564835
wow really impressive art for using a ballpoint pen, nice job!

>>60564938
Now you understand why people like Shaaang are protected like polar bears that they can tell the talents to freely interact with males if they want and not pander to "parasocials" like he did to Aletta, and not get punished and continue to act like armchair managers.
Literally abandon ship. Holy shit Kawaii is cancer. Discord groomer owned corpo.

>>60565122
It's not without it's fuck-ups, that's even the 2nd or 3rd attempt of that one since I originally fucked up the proportions. And even in that one I forgot the hair thingymajig on the left so I just had to kind of draw it over the hair.

>>60564938
That is also true, Hide was in the kawaiifans voicechat a few days ago talking with the fags

>>60565024
I feel like it's worth noting that they're not "from" the discord. At least one of them has been streaming since 2020ish. They just happen to have used the discord at some point, they didn't originate from it.

>>60565191
Pretty sure it's the opposite and they leave him unbanned so every time the traitors get brought up he has to sit there and take it like everyone doesn't know he's a treasonkek

See you guys when Charzu streams.

>>60565191
>Literally abandon ship
Please do, goodbye

I don't like Ran

Nami called out Hide for joining voicechat and interacting with the kawaiifans discord but apparently she was shilling hard for Kaya and Yuno who were part of that discord and worked on their projects? Blue woman makes no sense.

I dont care about Discord or boyfriend rrats, do any of the new girls seem like they'll do GFE?

>>60565010
>not even knowing what a nendo
Yeah, that is weird. What's also strange is ignoring your own metrics and not getting someone to do ASMR. Nene can almost triple hmk debut numbers with ASMR but there's nothing here for Kawaii's casual fans. I also didn't see any ads for the debuts even though they should have the money for it now.

>>60565599
No but I hope Ran does

>>60565599
No and no mention of ASMR either.

>>60565528
>There is no difference between someone who is a current employee and someone who isn't a current employee doing something

>>60562471
Based, I will know kneel to you drawfag

>>60565528
>shilling hard
she didn't shill any of them beyond retweeting announcements and one community post

Damn I was hoping it was Mel but the Neru theory is strong. Here you can see Yuno and Neru share the somewhat strange habit of ending sentences with two hyphens

>Unicorns, come hom-ACK!!!
karma is a bitch, kawaiisis
you had it coming for trying to shill your whores during the holoEN depression

>>60565675
kaya and yuno are current employees, their ties with that discord should have been a redflag

>>60565599
There is nothing appealing about the new-gen

v-dere won

>>60565741
HoloCHADS do nothing and still win BASED!

>>60565641
>should have the money
They don't. they're still in the red from Nene's sololive

>>60565750
>kaya and yuno are current employees
Like I said, they weren't a current employee when they were in the Discord. Rules dont apply retroactively, I dont know why this is confusing you

>>60565741
they fucked up kawaii hard this time, I was one of the shills who promoted Kawaii to unicorns and I'm ashamed of the new hires.

>>60565769
This but unironically

>>60565741
I kneel, HoloCHAD. We are nothing more than a /wvt/ corpo at this point.

>>60565710
FUUUUUUUUUUUCK it really isn't Mel.

>>60565512
I understand not watching her but she is probably a nice person. If you decide to completely ignore her please at least refrain from shitting on her. she probably feels bad about fucking up so early

Man, these recent posts all seem organic.

>>60565710
RIP I wanted to see Mel's next meltdown so bad. Guess I'll have to wait for Eien gen 2

Nice the jannys are doing something.

>>60565896
No, she needs to graduate and try again.

>>60565641
They probably want to diversify instead of being "that gfe+asmr corpo" - maybe to avoid competing with themselves and cannibalizing existing viewerbases? idk

Just got around watching the debuts:
Wtf, that's it? They're so boring and forgettable, nothing really stands out, tastes are meh normie slop, no particular noticeable talents, voices aren't cute.
So either "n-no really, we Production Kawaii totally have hundreds of applicants!!" was a lie, or if those three are really the best (or just least worst) of the bunch it says volumes about the lack of quality in the applicants that PK can attract.
And no, don't give me the cope of "w-well, EN vtubing talent quality is just that bad all around...", when many other smallcorps have managed to debut new gens recently with much better girls, so clearly the potential is there, just not for PK.

The rest of the red flags (BF yab which is already beyond "red flag" and more like instant death sentence, also assorted discordtroonery all around) are just the cherry on top of the shit sundae. If they weren't so goddamn boring, they could even outgrow the yabs, but that'd require them to have any outstanding qualities that'd make them have any higher appeal above the just 50 or so hardcore invested company fans and no one else. They're gonna be mid-2views soon after the debut buff wears off, the only thing that prevents them from leaving is they probably realize they're shitters and won't get higher numbers outside either. So you're stuck with them lmao.
And the company's slow slide into further irrelevance only grows as it is lapped by its competitors. But hey, at least it's "comfy", or whatever the cope is..

>>60565710
So it's an entire gen of BF havers, oh wow.
>>60541214

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bue-Xi3C4I0
reminder to dislike all of their content to kill their algo chances

>>60565944
>>60565864
was never Mel you retards

https://files.catbox.moe/h2b6fq.mp3

>>60565947
They've been deleting a good number of posts here that do get reported. I'm assuming that they've been active due to the obvious shitposters flooding in.

>>60565841
hiring someone who was active (managing fan projects) in a fan discord you are forbidden to join is retarded.
Hide joining the voicechat was also retarded and she rightfully had doubts about it.

>>60565841
Surely they wont favor their old discord buddies, some of which might be mods, that they used to stream to over other people right?

>>60566038
I can literally hear how fat her tits are

>>60566038
>"gen1 and 2 personally vetted and handpicked the girls in Hanamizuki, very intense screening"
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>60566033
retard, any interaction spurs the algo on

>>60565983
Considering kawaii's track record with talent retention and the fact that two of the hires were literal kawaii fans, the main factor in their hiring is pretty obvious

Okay the new gen is nothing but whores

>>60566205
married whores or discord whores, pick your poison

>>60566100
If they do then that's actually a problem, and not some ridiculous standard about talents following Kawaii rules when they arent even in Kawaii

>>60566042
>hiring someone who was active (managing fan projects) in a fan discord you are forbidden to join is retarded.
It really isn't. Its pretty likely that anyone who has a PL where they closely interact with vtuber fans will have crossed with some Kawaii fans

I'll ignore and boycott the new gen, I'll take a break from Kawaii, I`m too pissed off, at least a week.

>>60566167
Actually two kinds of interactions tank videos according to LTT:mass dislikes and people watching but quitting very early

I thought this agency is an alternative for unicorns... i was just starting to watch nene...
why (whoever kawaii's equivalent of yagoo) did this?

>>60565827
The ASMR audience is massive and insatiable. The most popular girls from each gen did ASMR and gfe. Why would you not have at least one girl focusing on the thing that is proven to make money? They know what the core audience wants, and they know what the casual audience wants so what are they doing?

>>60566320
He sold out to jp oji-sans

>>60566247
grasping at straws to defend discord hires, which discordtroon are you? Novem? Cucksperam?

I love Nami

>>60566343
meant to reply to:
>>60565962

>>60562055
I'll consneed that we may act a little bit UNHINGED (hehe) some times and it could often be cruel, but at least we are predictable there are 2 melting points for us, male yab and straight up being malicious, somefucking how is very hard for women to not do the former, you know what is easier than doing stuff? NOT DOING STUFF, you know what takes less energy and is easier than mentilning you have a boyfriend? Well not doing it, do seiyuus interrupt at the middle of some anime to inform me that they are married? No, then why should it be different here? Vtubing is a way to put distance between your real persona and your fans, then why the fuck put some holes to that barrier on purpose? What if it's not just a bf yab? What if their real names are leaked? Huh? Sure, harassment is wrong, doxxing is wrong, but just because stealing and assault is unlawful doesn't mean is a good idea to walk around Detroit going all bling bling in jewels and nice clothes, schizos gonna schizo, why give them a chance? It was irresponsible to put that dude there and specially without a brand new account so nothing could be traced back, it's almost as if she wanted to be found out.
Now I mentioned early at the start that we are predictable, and those 2 scenarios are not a secret, but what about the anti unicorn crowd? Do they have meltin points?
>already deflecting heh?
No, let me finish, right now Sayu is making noise in catalog due to a breakdown, her own friends straight up betrayed her and it looks like she really cared for them, she lost her job and is being sued, for what? A rape joke? How the fuck does a male yab compare to that? You just lose a bunch of clout and gain some antis, you don't get fucking sued, you don't get back stabbed by your friends, you don't get fired.
How about the cyber live girls? All that meltdown for what? A "woman dum haha" joke? All that backstabing, chubas losin their job, and those coming from the anti unicorn faction.
Is just 1 one uno ichi eins thing, don't male yab, it's very simple, is not a secret and is very easy too you know? Is easier to not do something than doing it, is also in the best interest for you in terms of security, you're fucking exposing yourself and him to schizos for what exactly? I really don't get it why is it so hard for women to just not do it.

>>60566343
Its simply girls that could do that DID NOT apply

>>60565962
>"that gfe+asmr corpo" - maybe to avoid competing with themselves and cannibalizing existing viewerbases?
There isn't actually that many of those type of streamers in Kawaii though

>>60566364
Same but she lied, will take a while before I forgive her.

Nami owes me GFE

Could always just force the new girls to go hard into asmr. Considering how many coomers watched doxxeane's asmr, it's not like quality matters as long as you can pander correctly

>hanamizuki whores will now drop on gen 1 and 2 streams to ruin it

All you had to do was hire another Nene.
incompetent management.

>>60566538
>Could always just force the new girls to go hard into asmr
You really can't; Kawaii already has a bad enough rep without getting into virtual pimping

So how we holding up? Good right? Kawaii saved!

>>60566585
Another Nene did not apply

>>60566538
you know why they can't do it even if they wanted to

Gen 3 absolutely vindicated. I don't like the whorse but her crying after going indie and saying people should hear the other side of the story but unfortunately she can't say anything should have given me a hint even back then. Gen 3 is now yabbless and male free, while Kawaii is cucking you actively with both real and virtual characters (thanks Nene).

I hope Nene never collabs with the whores.

>>60566538
I don't think they even have a 3Dio

why are women so bad and evil

Even if they did ASMR you would still hear the bf's in the background.

>>60566413
That does seem to be the case meaning Kawaii's future seems more grim than we thought. I'm starting to wonder if they got a single legit audition.

>>60566538
>force
Bad idea. The hunger for numbers and ASMR has to come from within.

>>60566538
>Forcing kawaii girls to do anything
LMAO you really dont watch kawaii.

>>60566680
Hell no, gen 3 are still traitors, not vindicated at all, they had the power to lift the company and betrayed them

>>60566320
I'm so sorry...

I miss gen 3...

>>60566783
Remember when management said the girls could do more coombait shorts for easy success?

>nene, lua, and shee graduate and form a new group
>charzu and isla never come back from break, graduate and join them
>leave nami, reina, and new girls never tell them about it
its the only way to save them

Gen 3 left because the greedy management saw Oceane and Aletta and pushed them to do even more for more short term profits. Oceane got uppity and started acting like she owns the place, hence so much slaps on the wrist for serious breaches of contract. Aletta just didn't feel like being bullied, AGAIN, into doing something that she doesn't like.
Kawaii is the blackest of the black corpos. They are one sekuhara away from Akio and Wactor.

>>60566441
what about this time? the only thing I won't forgive is shaving her bush

>>60566805
>lift the company
Why would you keep working for absolute scum in the management?

I hate to say this but Kawaii peaked with gen3, hanamizuki is a flaming pile of garb and gen1-2 are too old (heh) to do anything relevant. Enjoy the decline.

>>60566747
The ancient greeks literally banned women from so much as watching the Olympics on pain of death. Later this was relaxed to allow non-maried virgins to watch but no other women.
It's literally ancient wisdom that you have to tard wrangle women or they'll fuck up whatever it is you're trying to do.

>>60566916
Because you agreed to it and your senpais deserved it, despite the management

>>60566916
there is no management

>>60566680
>Gen 3 is now yabbless and male free
https://archive.is/chcci

Kawaii insider here.
Sorry to say this, I know that a lot of Coleknights might get mad, but Isla's "doxxing" was used in two very specific cases. First when the gen 3 happened, they used it for pity farming (yabs like that always get you pity no matter what the situation is) and now when gen 4 debuted for some additional clout.
They made it sound like Isla is completely out of it and going on a hiatus because of the harassement and then she tweets that everything is fine and she will still be a part of collabs and whatnot.
It's like, what?

>>60567019
Peony asks shang to make her a schedule. He does it. "OMG SISTERS HUGE YAB ITS LIKE THEY ARE MARRIED!"
Find a better cope retard. And I hate Shang and even I can tell thats a nothingburger.

>>60566833
Management says a lot of things that the girls just end up ignoring.

>>60567031
try harder, this is too obvious

>>60567031
no one cares Nami

it's not that difficult to do proper screening, other newer corpos managed to get relatively spotless girls
if they won't audition for your new gen you can go scouting. most 2view would be happy to join even the blackest of corpos

>>60567019
bitch please, Kaya and Yuno literally chatted in the discord and worked on their projects with them. They don't just have shaang in their DMs, they have all the discordtroons lmao

>>60567031
>Kawaii insider here.
So a discord member then.

>>60567132
Yeah, gen 3 proved that even if you just decide to leave the boost from kawaii as a 1-2view can carry you

>>60567132
Maybe they did do the screening and were fine with the girls heh

>>60566680
given the information about discordnigs being close to management maybe the rrats of forcing them to do 1on1s with them was true.....

>>60567215
You now understand why Nene doesn't give a shit anymore and will gladly debuff herself

Kawaii insider here, this >>60567031 is a fake kawaii insider

I'm glad the Kaya and Yuno being discordnigs is taking some heat away from Ran bf yab.

Remember guys, yab diversification is important!

>>60567297
Nene fought the management over umineko streams. Apparently her doing amazingly well 4 out of 5 times in a week doesn't give her the right to do one stream that she actually wants.
She ended up doing it anyways because if Nene leaves they are finished.

>>60567113
Oh yeah, the point there was they also made a public shitstorm about it, well, mainly Neena

Kawaii insider here, it was Nene who made the tweet to the bf using Ran's account.

>>60567307
You know the real Kawaii insider?

Chaashu... inside her (Ran) heh

>>60566805
In light of these hiring decisions how can it even be entertained that kawaii is worth uplifting
They were hiring whores when rep was still good back in gen 2

Kawaii insider here, not the corpo, I'm actually inside your oshi right now.

>>60567454
Ok I chuckled

Kawaii insider here
I am inside your oshi, come watch

>>60567520
>>60567532
which one of you is inside Kaya>>60567454

Kawaii insider here, new hires are going to be random ESL hags living in nursing homes. They'll have no idea what vtubing or anime even is

>>60567724
better than whatever trash hanamizuki is

Kawaii outsider here. Isn't it a bit rude for new girls to flat out say "please fund my gacha addiction" when there are starving children in Guinea Bissau?

>>60567724
Unironically kino.

Nami's sweaty smelly armpits.

>>60567815
or those starving kids also their children?

>/pkg/ still seething about discord
stop being so faggy

>>60567964
we should seethe about them having boyfriend instead

>>60567578
Me

Does this corpo have cunny

>>60568083
Lmao no

>>60568083
No

>>60568128
>>60568137
No wonder it's in the shitter. Later.

Kawaii insider here, Lua's armpits smell worse than Nami's

>>60568083
Charzu calls herself a child and refers to viewers as oniichans

>>60568185
Give/pcg/ a try

>>60567371
>>60567297
Nene has also repeatedly said she thinks management is good despite how she complains sometimes

>>60568185
Ask in corpo, they'll definitely have some cunnies for you to groom

>>60568185
this but unironically

>>60567724
Hire alzheimers patients next time. Every stream is a debut kino.

>>60568185
our fellow ntrcorp EIEN is getting new cunnies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=getyCrpsaVA
Neru is live

>>60568185
based

>>60568550
at least it's not mel

So what's the new name for the corpo? Kawacucks?

>>60568792
Is not new if you were a cloudtomo before

I already had low expectactions but holy fuck

yuno is ok

I just want to watch Isla... why did the management force her to go into hiatus?

>>60568843
One is an exception, but now it's a pattern.

>>60568185
This brat.... >:(

>>60568550
ty for the link disliked and reported!

>>60568550
Who?

>>60568905
Nene should just delete her vods. She has experience with that.

Yuno is just Nami with a voice filter. I know because I am rock hard right now.

Yuno seems to be better at talking than Kaya

>>60568905
>why did the management force her to go into hiatus?
Punishment for her shitty new hire picks

>>60569102
I remember when I first hear Neru she sounded very similar to Nami, especially in her karaoke.

>>60569174
Does she also sound like a dying whale in karaoke?

Ran will graduate
Nene will buyout Nene
Sony will buyout Kawaii
Screenshot this prophecy

She is so boring

>>60562471
bo shuriken exist

>>60569274
Their high notes are very similar

>>60568905
to generate sympathy distraction away from the gen4 disappointment fallout

Nami is GFE so Yuno will also be GFE

Nami 2

>>60569424
Yuno has a boyfriend... does that mean Nami...

>not a gamer
Dropped

>>60569308
Yeah, that's on the right tit man.

>>60569495
Production ntr. This truly is a charzu timeline

This girl is shockingly boring. Watch the jews use their laser weapons to knock down missiles.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/KTSoaDNIgR7p/

>>60569495
Yeah, me

>>60569495
Yes I am Nami's boyfriend

Will Kawaii take guys again next wave? I wanna groom Ran

>>60569570
I meant shit like this, titmeister. Not the narutard one.

>>60569696
Yeah but that one is basically just a stick, might work in a more detailed drawing, but making that accurate when I have like 3-5mm of drawing space for it is really hard

>>60569530
>Watching vtubers for their gaming skills
Yeah you people are fucking imbeciles

Gen 5 when?

>>60569695
I heard mel will be part of gen 5

>>60569899
I watch them because they have boyfriends heh

Kawaii is finished

>>60569927
I only watch kawaii girls for their hot cosplay accounts and hidden pl discords.

This debut chat has almost the same people chatting as her pl debut, surreal feeling

Anon has a boyfriend

>>60570136
>4 people that already moved onto Shiina and other /pcg/ girls are back and super active in the chat
Are these retards getting paid to do this?

She is boring.

>>60570204
Anon is a dirty whore then.

>>60570204
Yeah, me

>>60570204
dropped
bye bye /vt/

>>60560579
How are the new girls? Who is worth picking up?

>>60570441
they're all boring

Did any other corpo ever had a gen debut that landed this badly?

>>60570483
I mean what are you expecting considering a lot of people sided with Gen 3?

>>60570441
doa. the poison pill that will kill kawaii

What I miss? Give me the QRD and make it biased and fake as fuck, literally push your agenda on me.

>>60570483
Maybe that one corpo that did 240p 3D streams on debut that were being run out of a bathroom?

>>60570441
They've already been picked up by their bf's.

>>60570483
AkioAir literally had earlier gens graduate as well because of how badly they did with the new gen

>>60570483
There's been others with a boyfriend yab and the like, yes.
The new girls don't stand out, but it's obvious that some of the drama is manufactured.

>>60570564
Ah yes, never forget.
Sucks about Blair though.
>>60570596
Only because Jason was desperate for underage League/Overwatch cunny.

>>60570563
New gen and all of them literally got fucked by their boyfriends on stream during debuts.

>>60570677
What the fuck? WHORES!!

>>60570483
You must have missed 4/6 of AkioAir's gen 2 quitting before debut, right before the entire company crashed.

>>60570563
they all have boyfriends and/or secret clubs with discord groomers dont even have to make rrats up this time kek

>>60570773
All of them?

>>60566402
You're deranged. They aren't shoving a boyfriend in your face, you're doxxing them or finding loose connections to chimp out over that they don't even bring up on stream or ever mention.

>>60570840
anon...

>>60570643
>Could've bought an actual cunny mail-order bride for the money he spent on the gen
>All he got is a few overwatch matches and got cucked out of those as well along with his money
He was truly a sperg for the ages

>>60562725
Fauna and Mumei aren't even remotely GFE, holodrones are lipdrooling retards.

At least gen 1 and 2 are yab and BF free still!

>>60570841
Yes handpicked by Nami herself.

>Kevin, John kingy and Prof Jamal all in one chat
Three chat spamming normies

how long until the tourists leave so we can go back to talking about gen 1 and 2?

>>60571050
>BF free
maybe
>yab free
heh

>>60571077
they were in her PL chat too

green nami has more viewers than fat ugly tranny blue nami

>>60571326
>120ccv after debut
grim numbers

>>60571189
A majority will leave after a week when some other yab happens. /pkg/ has always been easy to shitpost in since we have plenty of enemies and it's easy to incite drama. Jannies have been relatively active in deleting the obvious shitposts for now though.

>>60570840
None of my direct questions to anons defending Ran have been answered or even reasonably assuaged. The only response is literally "I don't know, that's not evidence, it doesn't matter", like a bitch that was just caught sending nudes to her ex.

>>60562055
here comes the fucking cope, sounds literally like the laundry list people ramble on about to try to justify giving thousands ot some basic bitch twitch ethots.

>>60571189
Stop saying gen 1 2 3 4 stupid.
It's EONIA
novamore
Hanamizuki
Got it?

Kaya and Yuno are fine, even if they are discordtroons. This lore focus brings me back to RoaFen... it didn't end well for her...

>>60571189
>go back to talking about gen 1 and 2
You mean go back to gossiping about non-kawaii whores and seething about discordfags? kek

>>60571757
Well where else could do that then?

i will watch hanamizuki and post about them here if they stream something i find interesting

>>60571757
Yuno and Kaya are discordfags though

>>60571967
Please do.

>>60570441
1 open mod bf and 2 pre groomed straight from the fan discord

>>60571967
this but i will not send them a cent i dont for condom money and discords

>Super happy to be here
heh, hope these girls don't see these threads then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCJ76gQ7IIQ

Anyone know when Charzus next stream is? I kind of miss her.

>>60572313
shee cute

>>60572313
So which one is future gen 5
It's bound to be Shee's nepo-hire pick eventually.

>>60572352
Anon...

>>60572368
the redhead italian

>>60572436
they don't like italians, remember than one retard who exposed herself about the auditions on Lua stream?

Also panko should graduate and phase out

>>60571212
>>yab free
>heh
Anything I should know about Charzu or Isla before I jump in any further? I kinda found this corp thanks to all this hubbub, but these two are drawing me in hard and I'd rather not be disappointed later down the road.

>>60572625
the only thing bad about them are their fans

>>60571708
She still streams.

>>60572625
Isla's yab is that she's too stalkable.

>>60572625
they are good and clean, a bit charzu but it's ok

Yuno likes Anal Queen Iori
based

>>60572625
they are the only two safe girls in the company but they arent gfe if thats what youre looking for

>>60572625
Charzu is a redditor

>>60572352
Monday at her regular time. She is doing mon-friday before leaving.

>>60572625
You have good eyes, isla and charzu are 2 of the purest no nonsense no bullshit kawaiis that you can trust. Disclaimer: Charzu is my oshi, I've been watching her since traitors happening and shes been alright. One thing I would like to say though is that vtubing is a side passion for her, she has a really good job and career which she prioritizes which I think is a good thing because she will not whore out or bend the knee to paypigs for me, it's a plus for me.

random but did lua ever say what kind of doctor her sister was

extremely loud shee collab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCJ76gQ7IIQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCJ76gQ7IIQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCJ76gQ7IIQ

>>60572881
witch doctor

>>60572926
Shee is a woman and I love that reality.

>>60572926
boob collab

>>60572672
>>60572676
>>60572688
>>60572758
>>60572776
>>60572863
I'll stick around then if that's all. It's a crying shame I hadn't heard of these girls before.

>>60572881
sex doctor

Yuno is being incredibly cute this stream

>>60572926
>italian mob boss
>polish space witch
>latinx maid
>american boat
kino

>>60572926
> Italian, frog, Poland
What kind of euro alliance is this???

>>60572881
you know too much

>>60565896
>jeopardizes my oshi's already tenuous position and her coworkers through her own carelessness
Fuck her

>>60573053
Euro strong together

>>60573043
discordtroons aren't cute, my guy

i feel like yuno should have a snort laugh

>>60572999
One more advice I would like to give you, ignore the cloudtomo and birbling antis, and live post your oshi, just tune them out bro, there will be days where I would be trying to live post charzu and they'd be arguing for 50+ posts about discord and nenes mom or lua cuckong birbling, etc. This general is pretty comfy if you can get past that.

>>60573100
The fanbase already does more damage to kawaii then the girls themselves can ever do.

>>60572863
you have to look at how nijiEN progressed once some foxes got in the henhouse. there is nothing here on out besides decline. nothing.

kawaii's fucking donezo, rather, clearly they're intent on replacing their audience ... so let them do that, that means they don't want us. so why try to fight something they already decided we should lose just because they don't like us. there's nothing we can do. let them suit themselves - just abandon ship. ditch kawaii to save your own sanity as shit declines the next year. if they happen to find some replacement normalfag audience that wants a lower quality experience for people who don't care as much, sure, let them have it. you didn't want that. so don't take it.

All charzu lives matter!

this is charles' girlfriend

>>60573278
bald collab when

Voice doesn't fit Yuno's model. it should sound more haughty

>12 minutes of audio correcting
going well so far.

>>60573373
Blows her BF too much

>>60573431
peak woman

>>60573373
i'm getting the on the surface proper priestess with a nerdy side that only shows when her family are away vibes

>>60573225
this post makes no sense because they hired from the discord if anything they are doubling down on discord groomer pandering, which is also going to lead to a slow death

>>60566038
>WE handpicked them
>is the worst gen in the company ever
Thanks, nami. You fat-titted cow.

>>60573534
Koshita should pick again, especially during post nut clarity after busting a load to Noel's ASMR

>>60573534
I'm still wondering what the fuck their thought process was.

>>60573534
>This was the gen chosen by Isla and Nami
Grim.

>>60573495
I'm saying it's about whatever you find indignant/unworthy of the company in your eyes, clearly that doesn't really matter to them so there's no point trying to make it into something it isn't/doesn't want to be. people bargained for months and months about how not everything about nijien was terrible until just too much shit accumulated and the entire company is marred, you can't be in it and not considered tainted now. that'll happen here too. just leave it be to rot.

>>60573625
It was Lua (drunk), Isla, and Nami

>>60573484
God I love women, especially dumb ones like shee

>>60573661
>(drunk)
you don't have to specify that

>>60573661
These women need to be corrected

>>60573688
she was yelling racist slurs at Singapooreans and didn't see Ran obvious redflags

>>60573622
They clearly focused on picking girls who won't leave in less than a year

>>60573622
these were the only 3 applicants

>>60573709
Ok ill give their boyfriends a call. No problem production ntr got your back.

I love Nene and I want to give Nene every ounce of support she deserves but considering the shocking lack of competence in management's decisions I'm really disliking that fully half of anything I send her way is lining the pockets of the idiots piloting this ship.
And it paints everything else in a bad light like how they haven't bought ads and allowed the likes of IdolEN to bury us in terms of incline, or that it seemed like Nene was responsible for all the promotion efforts for her own solo live.
The seven loyal girls are legitimately great entertainers, I could have a shit day and tune into Kawaii and come away with a smile, but management has squandered this potential.
The window for growth, if it's not slammed shut, has receded so far.
Hanamizuki has turned out to be such a colossal blunder and I don't know how the corporate side of Kawaii could possibly regain my trust.

>>60573795
No there was also Mel

>>60573777
There is 0% chance they will stay, ran is out in less than 3 months.

>>60573831
Damn it I don't have a Reina membership
You win this time deranged cloudtomo

>>60573720
>>60573720

>>60573625
No offense to them, but considering their numbers I don't think they have the best grasp on what sells, for whatever degree of input they really had on the selection and scouting process.

>>60573777
>pick girls who they think will be loyal
>bf yabs
>discord hires
>dollar store models and rigging
kawaii can't win lmao

>>60573831
>Hanamizuki has turned out to be such a colossal blunder and I don't know how the corporate side of Kawaii could possibly regain my trust.
I feel the same, really conflicted right now, Really like kawaii but moves like this are so demotivating.

>>60574024
Loyal to the company when they should be looking for people who are loyal to the audience

>>60574101
why not loyal to both? is it impossible to find good people without a man?

>>60574242
Yes. Well actually no, even smaller corpos manage it, but somehow kawaii can't.

>>60574242
kawaii has low views and the gen 3 walkout damaged its rep. We're not getting any standouts that would want to apply to kawaii. If purity is that much of a dealbreaker, management unironically would have better luck taking a single grandmother from her nursing home and making her a vtuber.

>>60574439
>grandmother
we dont want used goods

>>60574024
Despite the rest, I like forehead's model though...

>>60573831
35% of anything you send her way is lining management's pockets.
Google takes 30% off the top
The remaining 35% goes to Nene and taxes.