/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Yes.

She HATES Vshojo

No. I hope they save Pomu from kurosanji.

>>60422456
Well people have been saying that in every corpo they are in and leaving including girls from vshojo. So at this point I just believe that every corpo is bad but any girl that leaves to be anything other than indie is a greedy whore

>>60422456
Nah it's mostly a meme, just like hating justing bieber or pineapple on pizza. Some people are just dumb enough to actually buy into it.

>>60422456
No, why would you think that?
Because a handful of retarded subhumans /here/ say so?

>>60422456
They have the absolute worst fanbase so yes

>>60422456
Please save Beryl.

Depends.
If it’s someone no one actually cares about and will likely just be a 3view again like Nina, then I doubt it matters.
Having Pika in the tranny org hurts though.

>>60423255
But she didn't join Hololive

>>60423538
>h-h-holo
rent free.

>>60422456
Mine? I think so, she seems very happy where she is now.

>>60423255
They don't have nijisisters. Look at how they broke Mysta.

>>60423692
You have been crying about Vshojo all day.

>>60423793
Why would holofags cry about vshojo saving niji livers? Only some nijifags are bothered.

>>60424004
I hear Phase fans like to stir shit too, once in a while

>>60422562
TYhese two are so cute together. If you'd asked me who Henya would gravitate to pre-debut I'd have assumed it would be Mouse but she and Zen have basically turned into siblings. And then that got reinforced with Zen's casual outfit that coincidentally had the same color scheme as Henya so they looked even more like siblings.

>>60424004
Here's the actual reason: VShojo is nothing like Hololive, while actually competing on a level similar to them. That's why so many numberfags flee to JP or event numbers where VShojo can't compete, because having to admit that a Western company is at a level very similar to their own without any of the restrictions and a good deal more freedom shouldn't work. The fact that it would be a preferable place for someone like Henya to wind up over their favored group has made them seethe enough to make daily Henya seethe threads for 6 months now. They're still winning, but they don't want VShojo to have a place at the table period.

Also VShojo can't be bullied as easily as Niji, since Niji's ACCELERATE method of hiring and debuting means that they get a shitload of medium-big streamers instead of a small honed group of huge streamers.

>>60423255
On this board? Vshojo has the best community of the 3 big orgs.
Relatively low amount of shitflinging tribalfaggots and almost no numbermonkeys.

Only some dedicated chuuba threads are better imo, like /haha/ or /haachama world/

>>60424286
ZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si1nhr8UDXY

>>60422456
Bad for the chuuba or for the fans? I guess it depends on your preferences

>>60424387
I love Vshojo but I don't buy that, it's just a neverending loop of shitflinging about the 3 leavers interspersed with occasionally talking about a stream.

>>60422456
No, and VShojo is one of the better vtuber corpos in terms of benefits. Hololive offers more money but talents have no ownership of their designs or channels. There is a reasonable chance of someone in HoloEN joining VShojo in 2024.

It could always be worse. At least it's not NijiEN.

>>60424342
You're talking about in general but I'm talking about the specific situation where vshojo is poaching nijien livers. In this situation only nijifags are upset, holofags and other corpofags couldn't be bothered. It makes a major corpo(nijisanji) look weaker in light of all the other bad news this year. But it also makes vshojo look stronger and more desirable.

>>60424387
>3 big orgs.

>>60424540
Hololive actually does not offer more money. You make more money at Hololive by virtue of the brand power being much stronger and having a much larger audience. The splits at VShojo are better, but you won't make as much as Holo because of that branding.

>>60424493
True but how does that compare to the kind of autism that goes on in other corpo generals?

>>60422456
I don't like Twitch nor reaction content.

>>60424708
>3.4% share with only 9 members
When will /#/ learn

>>60424673
honestly you'd think they would be happy, because if we do start poaching holo we're going for the males.

>>60424708
now do EN

>>60424708
You're quick to prove my point about numberfaggots, huh?

>>60424708
What that other annon said about VShojo being that much with as few members as it has, but it's also worth roping in that it's what this anon said >>60424342 People try to drag in JP's numbers were VShojo can't compete to make it look like they're doing worse than they are. VShojo's primarily working in the EN market, and that chart is worldwide. If you limited it to VShojo, HoloEN, NijiEN, and other EN corpos then the shares would change drastically.

>>60423255
but enough about nijisanji

>>60424777
Twitch I won't argue for or against, but you do know she only does video watching literally while eating? Ow would you rather have her completely end stream for lunch?

>>60424777
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO you can't watch videos while eating your lunch for half an hour during a 8 hour gaming stream!!!!!!!! sending death threats immediately!

>>60424708
show holoen numbernigger

>>60422562
does henya erp on discord

>>60424956
Long streams scare Youtube viewers who are used to 2 hour streams, with anything over 4 being classified as an endurance stream.

>>60423255
Now that is a nijisanji deflection comment if I have ever seen one!
Being better than Nijisanji can easily be done by simply not being evil. That counts for the corpo and the fanbase.

>>60424956
>Or would you rather have her completely end stream for lunch
Either that or turn it into a chatting stream which is much better than treating the audience like a kid that needs a distraction. Also this isn't specifically about Henya but a problem with the entire Twitch scene.

>>60424959
Nigger what the fuck are you talking about?

>>60422456
It could be worse, she could have joined mythic and disappeared into the abyss.

>>60424938
Are you saying we should compare the main branches of each corpo? So VShojo should be compared to HoloJP or NijiJP? That comparison is even worse for them.

>>60424808
Yeah I have no doubt seeing Mysta switch there will be other male vtubers watching closely to see if holo/niji should be used as a stepping stone.

>>60425195
I'm saying you compare the market they're in you smoothbrained mouthbreather.

>>60425236
VshojoJP doesn't exist anymore?

>>60425213
Coming up next

>>60422456
No, but I hate Twitch culture and Twitch content
>react streams
>POG POG POG
>meme review
>sleep streams
>annoying sounds played on stream on chat
This is some brainrot shit devised to destroy your attention span.

>>60422456
the only real problem with vshojo is that they stream on twitch
other than that I have the common sense of ignoring when my oshi interacts with someone I don't like instead of having a meltdown on catalog everyday

>>60424788
all vshojo conbined barely beats Pekora, and that's just 'cause they have 7 times mores hours streamed. add koyori and they both double Vshojo hours watched

>>60425236
>What do you mean McDonalds' is more successful than the Chinese restaurant down the street? If you compare the locations in my neighbourhood, they serve an equal amount of customers

>>60425334
Mysta was a giga-menhera. Bettel is an ultra-grifter who doesn't give a fuck what corpo he's in. I doubt he'd earn more in Vshojo, so there's no reason for him to go there.

>>60425308
Dead branch, if you want to be relevant in vshojo you have to speak english.

>>60425350
KEK

>>60424708
vspo has no presence yet on the west
So the more accurate "3 big orgs in the west" holds truth

>>60425350
>comparing hololive to horrid cancerous mass-produced slop
Smartest thing you've said all day.

>>60425392
He's already not earning much nowadays, especially compare to how many whales he had in his first few months. He was also close to Mysta and is close to notMagni so who knows if he'll stay after his contract runs out.

>>60424004
>Why would holofags cry about vshojo
I don't know but they've been doing it for nearly 3 years straight now

>>60424708
reminder that someone pays 700$ a month for this image.

>>60425655
nice headcanon

>>60424493
/vsj+/ keeps its garbage within its own borders, is the thing

Holofags feel a desperate need to sperg out everywhere

>There's a group of restaurants that serve English-speaking people
>There's another group that are tailored for Japanese speakers
>If you look at only the English speaking groups that operate in an English speaking space for people who want to dine in a place they can understand, then they are doing very well
>English-only speakers aren't interested in the Japanese-only restaurants. Bringing them in to bolster your numbers reeks of insecurity over how well they're doing in the space they're actually competing in.

>>60425308
Officially speaking VShojo does not have separate branches

>>60425738
You're literally doing it right now.

>>60425738

You, every time someone complains about how Henyamee should've joined other corporation, I always think how bad it would be for everyone:
>Joins Hololive
Wrestling with permissions, too many meeting, have to do idol stuff but she usually doesn't even goes outside. Would collab with males then became hated as a homocollaber.
>Nijisanji
Black company, would lose all the will to stream and graduate in less than a year. Nijifags would run wild rrats for any minor thing.
>Phase
She would be the odd woman out of phase, and would probably lose audience just by being associated with the company.

VShojo works well for her because it's basically an indie with a manager dealing with all the boring stuff. The opposite happened with Nazuna, who needed to be wangled by an overbearing Hololive.

>>60426102
Vshitshow tranny doing his work.

I guess this is a numbers thread.

>>60426156
>Phase
>would probably lose audience just by being associated with the company
You need to leave this place if this is the image you have of Phase.

>>60422456
>hold auditions for up and coming VTubers for almost 2 years and counting now
>claim they're fighting for the smaller names across the landscape
>acceptance rate: 0%
Yeah I'll take 1% over 0%.

>>60426257
It's the kneejerk reaction I see around here, I don't really know much about Phase, but Tenma is pretty based imo.

>>60426243
Vshojo isn't even number 1 on Twitch kek

>>60426156
Vshojo is basically VOMS on a larger scale. GYARI let her do whatever and keep her channel revenue too, but he couldn't support a talent as big as her by himself. Letting her go to bigger and better things after a huge going-away party was the right move for both of them.
GYARI still made a huge profit off his original investment (he didn't think they would even get 10k subs) and is debuting new monsters later this month.

>>60426156
It has unironically been funny to me that Henya's mentioned VShojo offering to let her travel places as part of a con or to meet up with Kson for IRL stuff and she's turned down the offer every single time. Being forced to do it for idol activities would literally kill her.

>/#/fucks derail another thread
Report to your containment thread for continued punishment via the company of your peers.

>>60426321
>Does he know

>>60426527
>person who passed the auditions was already an orbiter
Dyrbi?

>>60426573
I mean you said it yourself. Person who passed the auditions

>>60422456
If you wish to see all of your Oshi's aspirations die and watch her settle into a life of mediocrity and reaction content day in and day out, watching the same "YLYL/daily dose of internet" videos all of the others watch, then sure it's not a bad thing.
You just have to accept that Vshojo is a place where Vtubers go to die and become complacent with doing fuck all

>>60426411
They're top EN which is a much larger market than JP or KR

>>60424788
There's only one Tom Brady

>>60424708
>Hours Watched
Literally make-up meme stats because 3rd parties don't actually have access to the real one

>>60426591
Oh, sorry, should've said "allegedly". Also can't forget how Kson and Nazuna got into Vshojo before her so the company apparently delayed showing the results for those auditions for over a year just to grab two free agents who happened to be Hololive alumni.

So if you like watching spreadsheets, watch Hololive.
If you like watching streams, watch Vshojo.

>>60426728
Yes? They would have been stupid not to.

>>60426321
>hold auditions for up and coming VTubers for almost 2 years
The audition form closed after one month

>>60425655
You're missing the rest of the sentence. No one but nijifags is butthurt about them poaching Mysta and Nina.

>>60426797
Sure am seeing a lot of evidence to the contrary.

>>60426732
>le react tiktok shit streamer

>>60425087
>play minecraft for 2 hours, react content for 4 hours, 1 hour afk/eating
this is your typical vtwitchtard stream

>>60426837
The evidence being...?

>>60426728
Kson approaches your company and says she wants in and will bring her friend, the other top-earner from Hololive

You're supposed to say no because you have a single debutant in the wings?

My only issue with Vshojo is Froot

>>60424387
>best community
>HAHA MOGGED MOGGED LE MOGGED XDD HOLOLIVE HOLOLIVE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GET FUCKED HOLOLIVE MOGGED MOGGED MOGGED
>3 big orgs
>vshitshow
>big 3
lol lmao even

>>60426732
Dunno man, I have plenty of streams to watch from Hololive and the absolute majority of them don't force me to use Twitch (can't forget Laplus retardation) and none of them are the girls reacting to random videos.

>>60426759
>>60426893
So they're more concerned about getting first dibs on popular free agents than giving a fuck about the auditions so many people gave their all for it and they still ended up hiring someone who was pretty much VS+ by that point, allegedly.

>>60426845
You don't watch Twitch and it shows
Also a completely irrelevant comment given that image is Henya's stats, and she only pulls out react content for Epic Lunch Time

>>60424540
How many people did they accept for their auditions?

>>60426962
You're trying extremely hard to spin it as a bad thing when Haruka was doing debut prep for several months last year and there's absolutely no indication she was ever intended to debut at AX or earlier.

>>60424708
vshobros... we were supposed to be #1

Anyone outside of Hololive might as well be invisible to me.
It's like a video game exclusive on Epic Game Store.

>>60426988
Holobronies will NOT listen. They do NOT watch streams.

>>60427086
The fucks does this even mean? Debut prep when she was already a streamer for quite some time and redebuted as Vshojo on the same day she announced it? Why does it take over a year to do that and for a single new debut while notMysta debuted around a month after his graduation, notNina is debuting 3 months after her graduation and notRushia debuted like 4-5 months after being fired?

>>60426954
This is literally you, /#/

>>60427235
>Debut prep when she was already a streamer
Did you watch her debut?
If not, shut the fuck up

>>60426845
Nice headcanon there, but that's not the actual breakdown. The react content is like, a half hour at most.

>>60426527
Nepo hire

>>60427157
go back to the cuck shed >>60421719

>>60427314
Are you going to cry if I don't?

>>60426988
NTA but I watched one whole week of Ironmouse's stream, and other than the game streams he missed out on mentioning that was basically her entire routine.
An hour or two of chatting, 3-4 hours of gameplay (more during collabs and sponsorships) and then 4-5 hours of react streams.
And yes, there's actual food breaks where she just runs the stream on the background while eating for 20-30 minutes. Or worse, just keeping the mike on and chewing chips or some shit for 30 minutes.
And of course, there's the occasional sleeping stream during subathons as well.
> You don't watch Twitch
for good reason

>>60426732
Spreadsheets are fun

>>60427262
No because I'm not fucking watching Twitch, but that still doesn't explain why all the poaches or whatever you want to call it had a considerably shorter time for debut compared to Haruka being allegedly the one chosen from the late 2021 auditions.

>>60426845
The funny thing about Twitch is how detailed and easy to view the stats are. Here's one of those so-called react streams. She goes live, stalls for a bit, plays RE4, stops to eat lunch and react, then goes back to RE4. All laid out clear as day, and you can check any of her streams where she actually stopped to eat lunch and they're all similar.

>>60427261
And yet you've become exactly who you hate by spamming Ironlung and Henya against IRyS 24/7 when you're not IP rangebanned

>>60427464
What are you even talking about?
Are you ok?
There is very rarely any ill will towards hololive in vshojo threads.

>>60423793
>>60427356
https://files.catbox.moe/87pky4.mp4
> My ex-husband was not a nice person, just saying - IM
> I was married and I'm divorced. Aha! Surprise! - IM
> I've said I was married on broadcast though, I always make fun of it, I make jokes about it. - IM
> I guess people just don't believe me *laughs* - IM
> Maybe I said too much - IM
1:20
> "What does your daughter think of your condition?" - chat
> Oh, oh man. It's been very tough on her. - IM
> She knows everything about it. - IM
> She gets very enthusiastic when she sees me so she kinda forgets about the protocol and stuff like that. - IM
> "I don't like that" - dude
> But she's just a kid though! - IM
2:36
> Remember when you were cooking bacon and she was like "oh my god mom, I wanna go and eat some bacon!" - IM
> "Yeah, I'll be talking to ironmouse on facetime or whatever and this kid'll run into the room and see what I've got on camera" - dude
> "And, sometimes she must think I'm a maniac because I'm walking around a room with purple lighting." - dude
> She likes to watch you cook! - IM
> "I don't really know this human that much, but she's around occasionally, she sounds like a great entity." - dude
> "She's raised her well, she's a talented human as well." - dude
> Aww you think so? You think I raised her well? - IM
> "well somebody did" - dude
3:29
> "Is she a mini mouse? Is her personality like yours?" - chat
> "I think she's her own person, but she definitely has been influenced by Ironmouse like creativity, appreciation of art etc." - dude
> She dances ballet, she's very talented! - IM
3:58
> "Talk about the evening of, and go into g r a p h i c detail." - chat
> "What do you wanna know, standard conception right? The ol' D in V style." - dude
> *laughs* what? - IM; "was it not?" - dude; "D in the V?" - IM; "I assume" - dude
> Yes, D in the V - IM
> Listen okay? I got fucked. But I'm divorced, so there's no fucking going on. - IM
7:35
> "Talking about the stuff today, do you think it'll change anything in your broadcast in any way? Do you think you'll talk about this aspect of your life more or talk about it less after today?" - dude
> I probably will never mention any of this stuff again *laughs* - IM
> "Just refer them to this video" - dude
> Yep - IM
> "Check out this video on my youtube if you want to know, asshole!" - dude
8:30
> When I was talking about my mom being my caregiver, now that I revealed I have a daughter, my mom not only takes care of me, she takes care of my daughter as well so.. she has a lot on her plate - IM

>>60427438
The fact that she stops to do react shit is already a waste of time when Hololive, the agency that apparently doesn't stream, has multiple members who also stream for long hours and don't fucking stop in the middle of the stream to watch random youtube garbage.

>>60427366
>You don't watch henya
>okay but ironmouse-
Holy shit what is the state of Jakarta education?

>>60427577
Let's see those stream hours then anon.

>>60426954
>proving his point
>>60424387
It's even relatively easy to out tourist. See if they bitch about pic related. They're proven shitposters.
Also, he and Ironmouse play water survival again. Let's see if it becomes Raft "Sweet honeymoon kino" or the usual "Pure bitchfit kino"

>>60427555
So the answer is yes.

>>60426573
All of the chuubas people wanted to win the auditions at the time were also orbiters, like snuffy

>>60427639
Embarrassing.

>>60424999
Idk but I'm talking to a girl on Discord who can do a great impression. I might ask her to say stuff for 4chan.

>>60422456
Most of Vshojo's cast is full of awful people. Froot, Vei (I know she left but she was there for a long ass time), even Henya herself.

If it's roommate shit I don't really care but a lot of them gave done this bad shit via their vtubing accounts. I have a deep distaste for Vshojo and the only one I really like is Mel since she's sugary sweet, even if she's not my sort of content

>>60427758
And what's the time period on that?

>>60423783
>no babying or pet names
Something interesting I noticed about Luxiem's chink fanbase is how they love to call the males "babe." It stood out to me because I never saw their American and SEA fans do so, it was always the Taiwanese flags/中文 on bio that did it the most.

>>60427651
>embracing hypocrisy to own the Holobronies

>>60427803
>Froot
Yes, disagreeing is pure cope
>Henya herself.
Go suck dick
>>60427859
What hipocrisy?

>>60427555
>Posting AI audio to make Mousey look like a whore

>>60423783
Having this many rules just makes you look like a little bitch

>>60427635
Ironmouse represents the typical twitch streamer, henya doesnt.

>interactions with males and twitch esluts
Yes

>>60427706
Geega is an orbiter and failed back then?

>>60427382
Kuro was already preparing all his stuff by himself for several months during his previous life.
Matara's gap is pretty reasonable for someone who had no prep after their last gig.

By /vsj+/'s estimations, Haruka was officially signed to VShojo around April last year. That's a little over half a year from the auditions opening, I have no idea how that stacks up to other companies but we all generally understand that the auditions were scuffed to hell and the staff member responsible for them was let go.

To her December debut, that's still ~8 months which is longer than the other two.
Like the other two, she got a brand new model and stream assets, which should at least put her in Matara's time frame.
She also had a 12-minute lore video produced, as well as an extended scripted/pre-recorded segment which she wrote, recorded and edited all by herself. And that thing, she said, took multiple months to finish.

So when you actually know what you're talking about, it's not that crazy that it took Haruka so long to debut.

>>60427803
>the /#/monkey finally makes it known that she's a henya anti

>>60427924
If nijisisters weren't batshit insane he wouldn't need to

>>60427816
September. You also have other people beating Henya like Mori and if you want to stay on mostly English speaking Kaela is in Japan since early September and still streamed more hours than Henya, and expanding to JP as well you have Koyori and Ririka would likely have streamed more hours but she debuted on the 9th of that month.

>>60427912
It's not like Holo fans actually care about what some fifth rate org's fans think about them, meanwhile you demand respect from others when even /lig/ hates you

>>60427555
post the clip where she said she got an eye infection because her boyfriend came on her face

>>60427803
Henya did nothing wrong.

>>60423255
But enough about Holobronies and Nijitrannies.

>>60427978
>NO YOU HAVE TO LIKE HENYA BECAUSE SHE SAID THE FUNNY METH PRAISE YEARS AGO
Not everything is about you, anon

>>60428036
>hurr didn't care
Why are you even here faggot
Fuck off

>>60422456
If it means being used for catalog bait threads all the time by tribalfags, yes

>>60422456
If you have to tell the world you're having a good time chances are that you actually aren't

>>60427577
Henya having a regularly-scheduled break/lunch is actually what we in the biz call a "healthy choice"

And no matter how much you seethe about react content, her viewers love Epic Lunch Time

>>60428020
>being afraid of women
Pussyyy

>>60428036
You are literally sperging out over people not liking your precious blue dorito.

>>60427651
>post cunnor picture
and then you retards get mad when people call you cuck, e-celeb dick suckers

>>60428101
Your inferiority complex is showing by the way Go Blue

>>60424342
VShojo is literally just eating up Niji's sloppy seconds at this point though

>>60427635
uhhh the conversation starter was about Twitch content.. >>60424777
You ok mate? Don't let the shitposters get in your head now..

>>60427758
>Supporting marathon streamer
Ironmouse and Kaela at least has excuse, Bijou should be wrangled to get rest when she could.
But I understand why she do it. After all, Cover will force her to become an Idol which means less stream.

>>60427924
He is a little bitch

>>60428176
Those type of women are barely human and should be filtered appropriately.

>>60428181
And here you are doing defense control for someone just as reviled as Hololive

>>60428245
why so mad vshotard?

>>60424756
The chuuba specific ones are pretty tame. Mostly people loving their oshi. It's hlgg and other bigger melting pots that are pretty garbage

>>60428206
Fuck off tourist. Go back to your GFEtuber you claim as yours and donate with that delusion in mind.

>>60428139
I mean it's twitch. The people who dislike react content already left a long time ago. Still doesn't make for good streaming material when she could've just turn into a short talk section without random garbage playing in the background.

>>60428245
Nigger what the fuck are you talking about?

>>60428029
No I just wanted to see how HoloEN and VShojo stream hours stack up lol.

>>60428340
>GFEtuber
Oh how you ironically claim Ironlung is GFE yourself. Hypocrite

>>60425603
kys tribalfaggot

>>60428403
And how many of those hours are react content?

>>60428403
Zen and Geega don't do react lol

>>60428335
Because it's a lot of people with varying interests in one general and shitposters can also join the mix. It's why /nijien/ is such a shitshow

>>60428406
What was in your last dumpster dish that made you ever think that?

>>60428406
>Ironmouse
>GFE
From what planet are you calling from?

>>60428455
Then those are respectable hours. Can't say the same about Ironmouse tho because I know for a fact that she spams react shit.

>>60422456
ESL...

>>60428463
>>60428474
Tell your resident schizo to stop shitting up /hlg/ and /hlgg/ with his shilling of Ironmouse as le GFE alternative and le mogs X Holo then

>>60428474
The only person she could ever be classified as GFE for is Connor, and their relationship is honestly really sweet. He does a bunch of charity work for the Immune Deficiency Foundation now.

>>60428650
c u c k

>>60428036
>even /lig/ hates you
Every time their thread dies because nobody decided to make a new one, they squat in ours until it comes back
/lig/ is literally a child thread of /vsj+/

>>60428626
Tell them to fuck off and report them then.
Because again, anyone thinking Ironmouse has unicorn and do GFE when Welsh Monkey is her husband in all but name is deluded or a tourist shitposter,

>>60424777
React content really is lazy as fuck, and also stealing. The fact that someone can just play somebody else's work on their stream while they sit there stuffing their face is peak Twitch slop. Am I watching Vshojo or Hasan? It's all the same.

>>60428367
>when she could've just turn into a short talk section
But she's also talking with chat at that time?

>>60428686
Afraid to say the word? You share your hologf with hundreds of thousands of other men, so you should be comfortable calling yourself one with pride.

>>60428771
Why the random youtube garbage then?

>>60428792
>Why the random youtube garbage then?
If not that then minecraft or worse, Suika
Not like other VTubers don't have background setpiece, anon. It's not like we're talking about that drooling retard XQC or SSniperwhore

>>60422456
Big Carlos Matos energy.
https://youtu.be/B3nqggwsRpY?t=9

>>60428626
I'm from /vsj+/ and I have literally no idea who you're referring to
They've never shown up in our thread

Either a falseflagger or someone who is specifically acting like that in those threads and nowhere else

>>60427912
I'm not saying Henya is comparable to Froot by any means but her transition left a very sour taste in my mouth. It's debatable whether it just looked bad or if it was done intentionally but all the same I just lost respect for her when it happened. I think what she did was rather immoral and slimy and could've easily been avoided with honesty.

>>60427978
I'm not at all. I'm glad she's happy now and I would've been completely indifferent to her going to Vshojo had it been under more transparent circumstances. It really really looked like she used a controversy to get an excuse to leave and jerked people around a bit. She's happy now and that's great, but ever since she did that I have a very difficult time watching her again.

>>60427577
Yeah they just end the stream you fucking retard then start a new one some hours later.
Only a moron prefers no stream at all over react content

Reminder that this
>>60427438
20 minute sliver of a 7 hour stream
is what is making /#/ sperg out

>>60428833
>Minecraft and Suika seething
At least they're fucking playing a game. Watching ylyl n° a billion is the most empty kind of content you can make and having literally nothing the background while talking with your audience is infinitely better.

>>60428885
Even if you're likely right that the fag is a falseflagger do you really think someone who spams "Ironmouse mogs X" on random threads would be posting that on the place dedicated about her?

>>60429035
>Only a moron prefers no stream at all over react content
roru. rumao even.

>>60428572
>Can't say the same about Ironmouse tho because I know for a fact that she spams react shit.
she also spams sleeping streams

>>60428929
What are you blabbering about?
Her doing a graduation stream?
She literally had to because she wasn't an indie who owned her IP.

>>60429035
You have to be an adult to post here

>>60429119
arystocrat spotted
go vote your for oshi to go to bed instead of keep streaming

>>60428792
Because she wants to watch it, and depending on the video it might remind her of a story or a topic she's interested in, or she'll ask a question to chat 'cause she's confused or wants to know more about something.

Do you guys think that react content is literally the streamer sitting slack-jawed watching a video as if they aren't even streaming?

I mean goddamn, I watch Aethel and he'll literally take 3 hours to watch a 20-minute video sometimes because of how much he pauses to go on some schizo tangent.

>>60428929
>I think what she did was rather immoral and slimy
Why? She had one of the chillest, least-emotional graduations of all time. It was actually weird to watch, she treated it like a normal stream.
>could've easily been avoided with honesty
How? She can't exactly say "welp, guess I'll see you in VShojo!"

>>60429035
fr fr stright buzzin zoom zoom

>>60429125
Once a year, for a month long non-stop subathon, where she sleeps for like 5 hours per day because of insomnia

>>60422456
What is vshojo? I only know hololife and nijisandi

>>60429218
>>60429159
>>60429119
You know you can just close the stream or alt-tab if you don't like it? What kind of mental illness do you have. A choice is better than no choice at all.

>>60429208
>She can't exactly say "welp, guess I'll see you in VShojo!"
Why not? Who's stopping her, Gyari? Vshojo?

>>60429119
>Even if you're likely right that the fag is a falseflagger do you really think someone who spams "Ironmouse mogs X" on random threads would be posting that on the place dedicated about her?
Anon, we have people having in fights due to Mouse, she's a hated image on the catalogue, for no other reason that she's big in VShojo, you really expect people wouldn't use her image to bait you fucks. I mean honestly, this dude literally bring dox stuff for no other reason than to be a dick >>60427555

>>60429187
Nigger what the fuck are you talking about?

>>60429282
>A choice is better than no choice at all
When that choice is watching youtube by proxy then that is worse than no choice.

>>60429125
Point out the recent sleeping stream

>>60429286
GYARI, or more specifically, her VOMS contract
She still can't say who she used to be, and even tried to avoid saying "dayo" at first

Just because VOMS didn't operate like Holo or Niji doesn't mean its treatment of IP was different.

>>60429375
You are not forced to watched, retard. Do something else.

>>60429417
She's not forced to steal Youtube videos while she eats her lunch.

>>60429447
You are right she's not forced, she wants to

>>60429417
And that's exactly what I'm doing, thank you very much.

>>60429402
Plus there's absolutely NO bad blood between Henya and VOMS.
Tomoshika still has Pika plastered all over her wall
GYARI is still selling the Hello VOMS book with the Pika drawings in it
Henya and GYARI are still friends on steam

>>60429493
I want her to not steal other people's content.

>>60429447
So what's your argument when the streamer has permission
Melody recently asked someone if she could watch their Warhammer lore videos, she said yes
Aethel got permission the other day to watch the next episode of Down the Rabbit Hole, a video Fred's worked on for two years

And far be it for me to assume but I don't think Dancing Bacons cares that much if Henya watches their videos on stream

>>60429289
>doxx
lmao
First you say it's "AI audio" now you're saying it's doxx. Make up your mind

>>60429578
Sorry if she stole your content dude, but if she didn't then shut the fuck up, none of those people care.

>>60429208
I wasn't able to catch her graduation live but I watched the ending later and it's funny how chill she was. There was pretty much no doubt in most people's heads she was coming back. Not everyone expected VShojo at the time of course, but there was no way she wasn't coming back in some form. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dNNpOvY6oE

>>60429578
Oh no. This is so sad I'm gonna cry.

>>60429587
It's fine morally, as long as that permission was obtained beforehand and not the stupid "They'll probably agree anyway" after the fact bullshit people like Hasan pull. It's usually still lazy content but if they have a lot of insightful things to say, then that gets a pass too. There's some shades of gray to it, the average react stream is not that. It's playing some random person's stuff without their permission because it's lazy, easy content without the streamer needing to do anything at all.

I sometimes forget that life outside of hololive means chuubas doing "react" content and even worse things. Honestly don't get why even bother with vtubers at that point instead of just flesh streamers

>>60422456
Only if you can get invested into their internal cult. Nazuna couldn't take it and left. Corpos in general are shit because of perms autism and nepotism/seniority culture in management. Find a 2view indie that you like and support them.

>>60429447
You wouldn't download a car.

>>60424286
don't care zentranny

>>60426641
>EN
>larger market than JP
The sad part is that you actually believes this.

>>60429596
???
What it's this retarded ass logic, let's assume it's either of those two, what's the point of bringing it to the conversation that has nothing to do, other than being a dick, and proving my point, Ironmouse has become an image that this board flops around because she's one of the few EN people to make a mark without being in Hololive.
>>60429737
Anon, if your precious Hololive members could do react content, they would 100% do it.

>>60429737
Outside of Hololive, there is no meaningful difference between vtubers and flesh streamers
They are all just streamers

>>60429805
They're besties and I love them
>>60429828
He meant EN is the top market on Twitch, not for vtubing.

>>60429805
of course you don't care, you don't even watch henya

>>60429828

>>60429836
>Anon, if your precious Hololive members could do react content, they would 100% do it.
This is your brain after only a few minutes of watching twitch. Just say no.

>>60429970
And how many of those English speakers are otaku enough to even pay attention to anime let alone vtubers which are on another level of niche?

>>60429716
What the people that complained about Hasan, who's not even the worse offender considering he actually talks and actively reacts to the content, and most notably xQc, is that those people would actively react to stuff that was brand new, offer little no talk, and would upload to YouTube, thing that messed up with the algorithm, and it's a problem with the viewership, the numbers talk by itself baby, people like react. It's a no-brainer to do "easy content" and get views.

>>60429447
>steal youtube videos
Are you really upset that TOP 5 MOST AWESOME PET VIDEOS isnt getting a view for the hard work of stitching together five clips that he, himself stole from somwhere else?

Once again, if you really hate henya's lunch time just turn the stream off and pretend that she does two streams a day, like pikamee used to.

>>60429836
Have you decided yet if it's doxx or AI created? You seem to have hurt yourself in your confusion and haste to deflect

>>60430048

>>60430086
>people like react
It's a stretch to call them people.

>>60429289
>>60429836
> dox
straight from her own stream, and no personal information about her or any of her family was revealed.
> other reason than to be a dick
what does this have to do with being a dick?
This is simply old information about Ironmouse that's just mysteriously disappeared from the internet, so only her dedicated fans would know about it.
It's a simple courtesy to inform potential new fans about her long and colorful past when she's part of a conversation.
She's quite open about her past (as she herself says in the video) so it's not like this is some big secret or anything.

>>60427555
>You think I raised her well?
>well somebody did
kek

>>60429895
If they are he top market on Twitch, why does JP and KR vtubers have more hours watched?
Or are you ignoring vtubers for the sake of this argument about vtubers?

>>60430164
I'm sorry but that's who it is.

>>60429979
Except that they literally already do it
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9RheBvvZj08aBftrnCvLYZEB8mk_uN3O

>>60430250
It's all so tiresome.

>>60429979
Anon, both watchalongs and the 'second stream' for most events are just holo members trying to approach react content while working within managements permission autism.

>>60427555
ironcucks will still give her money

>>60429970
same logic btw
and look how that turned out

>>60430086
>but people like it
People also like porn, should we have girls from vshoujo doing por- oh

>>60429596
fakedox is still dox

Look at all the seethe
Vshojo stays winning

>>60430280
> watchalongs and react content are the same!!!
once again, see >>60429979

>>60430280
>>60430394
>conflating watchalongs which rarely if ever have the movie in the background with watching random youtube shit
I'm not the biggest fan of those but come on.

>>60430280
>>60430394
>watchalongs are react videos
Rumao

>>60430453
We all know the pure and chaste Hololive would never allo- oh.

>>60430526
>watching a movie is WAY different than watching a YouTube video!!!!
Nigga what the fuck is this
Just take the fucking L like a well-adjusted adult

>>60430466
that's her ustream model newfag

>>60430633
'her ustream model' is a free asset that you can download from the steam workshop right now.

>>60430086
It's still messing with the algorithm, if they didn't have access to easy-bake content by just stealing someone else's work, they would be forced to make more of their own content. Since no streamer is superhuman, inevitably that would mean they would most likely stream less, therefore the viewers would be elsewhere rather than their stream.
>people like react
Yeah, of course, because it's the original video + somebody else. And once you've seen that, there's 0 reason to watch the original video. So obviously, """people""" like react. That doesn't make it a good thing to do. As I've said, lazy at best, stealing at worst. Have SOME standards.
>who's not even the worse offender considering he actually talks and actively reacts to the content
The guy who leaves videos playing while he goes to take a shit? Unless taking a shit is his "reaction".

>>60430633
Why did you have to tell them
It was a lot more fun to watch them think it was doxx

>>60430517

>>60430453
>People also like porn, should we have girls from vshoujo doing porn?
Yes, if they want to!

>>60427555
mouse was always a grifter

It's so hilarious. You begged for her for 2 years, and when she gets a better offer from vshojo, you pretend you always hated her. It's happened at least twice now.

>>60429836
Didn't Holo's darling mascot Gura ask if she could do react content once?

>>60422456
Yes.

>>60422456
I dont have an "oshi", but if one of my favorites would end up with the vwhores. No I would stop watching them. I dont like their brand, their talents or twitch.

>>60430612
> stream doesn't display the movie at all, audience has to have a separate tab or monitor for the movie
vs
> content is literally 80% of the screen, mobile zoomies don't get filtered
Twitch has addled your brain zoomerchama...

>>60422456
It's about the worst fate one could suffer right there with niji.

>>60430717
>The guy who leaves videos playing while he goes to take a shit? Unless taking a shit is his "reaction".
I mean that arguably not even the worst, if he comes back and actively watches it, hey, what's wrong with a little shit.
As for the other point, probelm is that we are talking about Youtube v. Twitch, no Twitch content will directly affect Youtube algorithm unless it's uploaded, issue that several content creators have spoke about it. This shit >>60430250 is 10x worse that some chick on the internet watching Daily Dose of Internet while she eats, now, if clippers do that, vtubers don't hold the responsibility of it, if they want to, they could take them down, but since neither the party involved in the content creator of the video that's getting reacted, and the the person reacting, then it's not an issue.

>>60431104
OK, so the real problem with react content is simply that they have the video on-screen.

It wasn't about being lazy content at all, is that it?

>>60422456
if happy, it's not bad

>>60422456
Genuine answer: It's the best thing it can happen to my oshi at holo right now.
Vshojo has the best contracts in the industry however they don't let anyone in.

>>60431104
You picked the worst example as she was doing a singalong all the Sentai openings, great job retard
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1946854900?t=00h53m11s

>>60431172
>they have the video on-screen.
>It wasn't about being lazy content at all, is that it?
The other guy is right. Twitch truly rotted your brain.

>>60431104
I will note that in this particular picture, Mouse was doing an hour+ singalong to Super Sentai songs, not "react content"

>>60431104
I will say, the one time I gave Iron Mouse a shot was when she was reacting to a video from a guy I like, Skallagrim, talking about swords and shit.
She was just acting like a braindead moron and moving her avatar around the screen.

Safe to say I know who the audience is for IM and vshojo is now, and checked out.

>>60431260
Explain it to me.

In both situations you have a streamer doing nothing other than watching something and commenting on it.
The only differences are
>YouTube video vs movie
and
>on-screen vs off-screen

So, what makes one better content than the other?
Why is one acceptable and the other is not?
Give it to me straight, stop pussyfooting around like you don't actually have an answer.

>>60429919
not when she collabs with a tranny

My oshi is happy an and fulfilling her dream while raping all the hot women in yakuza. Im happy
Also i love henya haruka and melody they make me smile
So i love vshojo because i love these dorks

>>60431389
Why do you seethe so much then when you don't even watch them?

>>60431336
I guess you missed the part where Skallagrim responded to that by talking about what his videos are like to people outside of his fanbase, to which Mouse responded by talking about the similarities between sword fighting nerds and anime nerds

>>60431336
>Skallagrim
Guess what
https://twitter.com/_Skallagrim_/status/1633513072089341953

>>60431447
Because holofags are miserable deep inside coz their oshi never streams. When they see others happy and satisfied they seethe because its not them

>>60431489
She even invited him on her talk show, shame they never got around to it though

>>60431373
In one case your "commentary" is the content. In the other the video being played on the screen is the content.

>>60431456
>>60431489
I know, that's what alerted me in the first place. They were being nice and networking, that's fine.
I'm just saying if you're going to watch a video it shouldn't go in one ear and out the other. It was the most vapid braindead shit I'd ever seen.

Are you faggots losing your shit coz one of our talents interacted with that medieval sword guy youtuber LMAO

>>60431513
>their oshi never streams
One. Joke. There's 64 girls in Hololive but you faggots only use one of them as proof that no one in the agency streams. If that's fair then no one in Vshojo streams if I use Gigguk's wife as my example.

>>60431565
Oh, so you're just making shit up now

Literally "it's OK when Hololive does it"

>>60431513
My oshi streamed every single day since debut

>>60431513
It's not all hololive fans but some of the community are just rotten shitflingers. Don't like a chuuba? Simply don't watch them.
Antis are pathetic and unfortunately there are way too many.

>>60431571
User submitted videos are all about seeing something that might be neat, that you might not know much about. And sometimes it's stuff that you don't actually have much to say about.

Realistically, what would the lady that's so sheltered she wasn't allowed to play on a swing as a child have to say about sword fighting?

>>60431647
>One joke yet it always works and you seethe so hard everytime its used
Skill issue dayo

>>60431157
Maybe not directly, but it does indirectly affect it by keeping potential people who are interested in somebody's stream longer rather than browsing Youtube for videos themselves. Viewers aren't infinite, after all.
Funnily enough, despite being a clip compilation channel, even Daily Dose apparently gets permission for all of the clips he shows so I can't even concede on the point of compilation channels already being stolen stuff creating a weird stealing stolen stuff chain, even shitty channels like Daily Dose know what the proper chain of command is, and most of his stuff is from Tiktok or Twitter, different platforms. So it really seems like only Twitch streamers get a free pass, and that's more than likely just because nobody wants to pick a fight with people like Charlie, Asmon, xQc, Hasan, or any of the other giant names who do react stuff on streams because then they'd have their fanbase up their ass, so they'll just let it slide.

>>60431651
I accept your concession.

>>60431737
Just like you're seething about people not liking reaction garbage?

>>60431723
Literally anything bro...
But I'm not going that hard, IM is fine by me. Dumb women are fine too. Dumb + reaction content however sounds you just wan to see someone make noises. Which is what I'm getting at, the twitch audience is vapid.

>Watchalongs are not react content
might be the biggest cope I've ever seen holy shit

>>60431716
Yea i notice that sometimes i just think these people just hate themselves in general and just go here to shit on others no matter the reason coz their lives are so miserable offline. They seethe about the pettiest of shit that they unironically dont even watch outside of clips. This faggots will even attack their own fandom It was never about vtubers at all it was them just lashing out

>holonumberfags complaining about bad fanbases while sitting in their literal shit eating bait general
>holonumberfags complaining about stream content when they spend every day looking at unironic fake viewer counts
>holonumberfags attempting to argue that movie watchalongs are not just react streams for cucked japanese streamers with broken copyright laws
>holonumberfags are literally only here because their burnt out oshi streamed for a whole hour and then ditched them for a 3 day break so they have nothing else to do for an extended period of time
imagine if henya joined whorelolive and was forced to do picrel instead of playing minecraft with the vshojo girls and enjoying herself.

>>60422456
In most cases yes, environment shapes the person after all and there's no better environment to turn streamer into shit person than Twitch

>>60431822
You faggots been seething and spamming bait threads ever since nina got confirmed…. She wasnt even on your team but you want to seethe irreguardless coz you are sad and bored coz your oshit never streams
Skillll issue dayo

This is an idol
These >>60431955 are whores.
Know the difference.

>>60431237
>>60431332

>>60432012
Nigger what the fuck are you talking about?

>>60432012
Did you just get mindbroken?

>>60431764
You gave me the most arbitrary "difference" fucking possible

Once again I come back to
>the real problem with react content is simply that they have the video on-screen
Because that's the ONLY difference you can meaningfully identify to me.

And if that's the case, it completely shoots down any attempt to slap "lazy content" as a reason, because CLEARLY you don't mind lazy content as long as it's done "the right way."

>>60432035
Henyabros see Holofags in their shadows for some reason

>>60431955
Pikamee will never join holo thanks to them because they harrassed her when myth debutted telling her to graduate and join hololive because “she is obsolete” on her twitter and youtube comments

>>60431513
> their oshi never streams
exquseme?

>>60432091
His post doesn't even make sense when he's bringing up Nina.

>>60432035
You seething
Keep
Up

>>60432106
Proof next thread?

>>60432012
bro...

>Holofaggots seething coz other fandoms are happy
Yea and the sky is blue

>>60431402
You can't rape the willing, anon.

>>60432291
I wish kson would rape me

>>60432091
Honestly it's just this one guy I'm not even sure he actually watches her. Even unrelated threads he goes crazy about hololive and avatarfags with henya.

>>60432124
speaking of pekora, did you vshojo/niji guys know that the most "exciting" hololive stream in the past month was just watching pekora count rubber bands? after a month of watching holos counting their score in the same shitty game. literally not even an exaggeration. this is the content that holonumberfags actually enjoy. a japanese woman they can't understand counting on stream for a couple hours. 70000 holonumberfags watched it. remember that when someone complains about a funny react stream.

>>60431647
I mean sure Gura is the main culprit, but everyone in Myth besides Cali and Kiara seems to have basically given up

>>60432532
Well thank god Hololive or even HoloEN is not just Myth.

>>60432659
Oh right, the "male collabers" you seem to want dead every other week and your silver medal Advent that Gura actively sabotaged.

>>60432515
Do you spend your entire day seething in /#/ and think that's the entire hololive audience? No wonder you are so mentally ill.

>>60432746
You're trying too hard, anon.

>>60432515
> woman they can't understand
anon, once again I ask.. are you ok?

Is this all just number enthusiasts trying to start shit between the company fanbases

>>60432012
>irreguardless
Holy ESL

>>60432830
>>60433021
numberfags are all holofags. it's the same group.

>>60433218
And not all holofags post in /#/. That thread is a hodgepodge of various fanbases shitflinging and I'm sure you are in it too anyway given how much you post about it.

>>60432515
React streams are the absolute bottom of the barrel, content quality wise, and your favorite whore doesn't change that fact.

>>60433312
meanwhile all holofags tolerate numberfaggotry and post it themselves in /hlg/ every day. try posting numberfag shit in the vshojo or niji general, 5 people will tell you to kill yourself.

>>60433443
that's because twitch's /#/ is /lig/

>>60433356

>>60433493
Is this supposed to be a gotcha or something?

>>60433021
Everyone hates numbers until they can cherrypick a metric or two to show that their team is actually winning and is the best

>>60433629

>>60432515
so? it's just entertainment my brother don't try to stir shit up

>>60433662
t. hololive en watcher

>>60433629
Spreading their legs and exposing their barely covered pussy to millions of men is generally irl considered more whorelike behaviour than *checks notes* doing react content.

>>60433629
sisters are underage anon, they copy the posts done against them and change things around hoping it sticks, their brains haven't developed enough to understand concepts like nuance or context.

Holoseethe the thread

>>60433724

>>60433493
>>60433664
>>60433886
>>60433721

>>60433998
thanks doc!

>>60433998
>henya learns a bad word
oh my god sister she might as well dance half naked now and spread her pussy

>>60433998

>>60433998
You really don't want to go down this road man

>>60422456
>is having your oshi jump in the septic tank bad?
Yes. Removing one's qualification to be given attention is bad. Maybe you did deserve the zhang faggotry, cokson.

>>60434102
>holos do "lewd" shit once per semester
oh my god sister they might as well dance half naked now and spread their pussy

>>60434247
they do that pretty often

>>60432342
Henri switched sides?

>>60434330
last i heard he was homeless without an oshi after he figured out that neuro wasn't real

Holosalt the thread

does anyone have aki on her back spreading her legs or red biknini haachama webms? i didn't save those

>>60424410
Who cares about the fans. If you're the kind of asshole who won't support your oshi because you have been brainwashed into hating something that you know nothing about then that's on you buckwheat.

>>60424708
You literally proved his point. Walked right into it.

>>60425334
I'm still shocked he remained in.

but seriously though watchalongs are literally react streams

>>60432012
Please stop making pikamee look bad

>>60436204
even worse because you gotta pay the goy tax

>>60434420
isn't neuro not being real pretty much her main selling point?

>>60424959
this but unironically, be quiet XQC.

>the sheer amount of holo posting in this thread about vsj vs niji
we run this fucking board lmao