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60419934 No.60419934 [Reply] [Original]

Ayame has actually streamed less in 2023 compared to Gura, yet why is there so much backlash only directed at Gura?

>> No.60419963

>>60419934
no one can understand japanese here. you dont know whats happening in the japanese side of the fanbase because you cant understand that shit

>> No.60420024

>>60419963
Ah yes that explains why Ayame's stream comments don't reach almost 1k people, have nearly as many dislikes, and how she is practically ignored in the JP sphere outside her own fans

>> No.60420037
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60420037

One is cute so she gets a pass, the other is just a lazy whore with no quality whatsoever.

>> No.60420063

>>60420037
>Insert picture of Ayame building project remaining stagnant in Minecraft for over 3-4 years at this point

>> No.60420083

>>60419934
>Why does Ayame get a pass
She fucking doesn't, try again chumkek

>> No.60420093

>>60420024
damn nigga this vtubing shit must be serious you really keeping track of all that shit?

>> No.60420103

I know you don't watch streams but Ayame frequently pops up on other people's channels. The same cannot be said for Gura anymore.

>> No.60420123

>>60420093
Literally takes 1 minute to go to her channel to see what was said you lazy fuck

>> No.60420141

>>60419934
Nobody gives Ayame a pass. You just get Gura shitposts because you're stupid enough to make posts like this, faggot. But you knew that already didn't you, nijisister?

>> No.60420154

>>60420093
Yeah it may be a little complicated for you, go back to dragon ball, homie

>> No.60420164

>>60419934
Ayame is cute
Gura is cringe

>> No.60420169

>>60420083
Uh Ayame has never had this level of backlash against her ever

>> No.60420171

At least Ayame bothers to say wtf is going on with her life

>> No.60420177

>>60419934
Gura is also 20x more popular and therefore has a bigger responsbility to her chumbuds to be there for them at their worst moments. Being a 1view and moving onto to other things is one thing, but Gura doesn't even care if her chumbuds live or die, and that's fucking disturbing.

>> No.60420220

>>60420103
Ayame only has a handful of people that she ever collabs with, and its not like even those are frequent occurrences lol

>> No.60420266

>>60420141
Ayame hardly gets any pushback, are you people blind or something

>> No.60420286

>>60420169
lmao, she definitely had, she's been doing it for years so people are just tired of calling her out, nothing will change because Cover is a pushover.
same thing will happen to Gura btw

>> No.60420317

>>60420171
Ok but making tweets is not an expectation, streaming is the expectation.

>> No.60420371

>>60420177
Ayame still averages like 10k viewers, Gura isn't that much more popular than her

>> No.60420389

Damn, OP got butthurt from people mentioning Ayame in /ggg/ and made a thread in catalog

>> No.60420409

>>60420286
She only ever had backlash from the EN schizos, JP fans already accepted her change in frequency.

>> No.60420431
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60420431

ojou kawayo i love her so much

>> No.60420447

>>60420389
Ah so you admit that it was other people who brought up Ayame first. Nice job ousting yourself

>> No.60420468

>>60420409
Nope, she had backlash from JP as well, but as I said, she's been doing this for 3 years so people just accepted it and move on. And again, same thing will happen to Gura

>> No.60420480

>>60420431
>Why can't even Gura's manager be bothered to make cute tweets like this for her

>> No.60420500
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60420500

>>60420389
meanwhile in gura's prechat....

>> No.60420553

>>60420468
Except she didn't, you people keep thinking this but its blatantly false lol. Ayame has never had a controversy within the JP sphere. Her gachi fans stayed after her streaming frequency dropped, and everyone else just dipped.

>> No.60420558

>>60420431
manager-san, gambare...

>> No.60420593

>>60420431
Are these even her making the Tweets tho? Pretty sure she just uses her side account, and her manager uses the main account

>> No.60420618

>>60419934
SEAnigs can barely comprehend english, do you expect them to know japanese? It's easier to bitch at Gura in broken english

>> No.60420629
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60420629

wow I'm amazed that her manager also reads heroaka religiously
bunch of retards

>> No.60420642

>>60419934
She doesn't have 4.4m subs and Gura's antis don't even know she exists.

>> No.60420671

>>60420553
So you weren't there when Ayame got dislike bomb on her stream then

>> No.60420677

>>60420371
10k is pathetic by Japan standards. Maybe in EN you can get away with it, because you're making scuffed ghetto content for fast food eating Am*ricans, but in JP unless you're doing 15k or more you're a nobody.

>> No.60420693

Because Japanese fans are much more civil.
They are more polite, more numerous, more supportive, complain less, hate less.

>> No.60420695

>>60420629
ah yes, what a niche series no one else follows.

>> No.60420725

>>60419934
>Not counting all the twitch streams
lol

>> No.60420746

>>60420693
then why are you attacking EN so much? seems like JP fans are less civil.

>> No.60420769

>"Ayame has streamed less than Gura in 2023
>Picture literally shows that Ayame has more hours than Gura this year
Why do chumkeks blatantly lie to try to make a point?

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>> No.60420814

>>60420671
>By EN fans

>> No.60420866

>>60419934
Because Ayame unironically streams more than gura and actually uses social media to talk to fans sometimes.

>> No.60420867

>>60420769
I know misspelling a word after insulting someone's intelligence is common trolling tactic so I'm just gonna assume the same thing is going on here

>> No.60420872

>>60420677
What even is this take? Most JP vtubers do not get 10k at all, anyone who gets 10k is considered big lol

>> No.60420914

>>60420037
>even male vtubers are tired of her shit
Kek.

>> No.60420921

>>60420693
This is some pure EOP cope, there are just different standards between JP/EN fans for what makes them tick. There have been plenty of controversies within the JP sphere that EN fans would laugh at

>> No.60420988

>>60420220
Ayame hangs out with the hags at the holobuilding and gets them to buy her things which is different from Chud Churro who seems to not exist anywhere unless she requires money.

>> No.60421007

>>60420725
Ayame doesn't stream on Twitch???

>> No.60421025

>>60420677
>literally moving the goalposts

>> No.60421050

>>60421007
She streamed fps on there every once in a blue moon, but twitch doesn't keep vods after like a month or something

>> No.60421065

>>60420500
>doesn't like criticism
>does things that make people criticize her
BASED

>> No.60421089

>>60420988
Yeah like Ayame at least has a group that she is close with, even if it is small, Gura doesn't have shit lol. Myth unity has been completely fractured, and its not like Gura does her JP reps enough to properly hang out with Shion or Umisea

>> No.60421106

>>60420813
Weird that you can tell it's a manager post because gura would just tweet "3 taco lol" or some shit.

>> No.60421111

it's ok when JP does it

>> No.60421138

>>60421111
Was it ok when Irys was literally sexually harassing Council during the group 3D stream?

>> No.60421204

>>60421138
Yuri >>>> """"GF""""E

>> No.60421228

>>60420814
?

>> No.60421240

>>60420866
She’s not worse than Gura but Ayame is still really bad.

>> No.60421271

>>60421228
What?

>> No.60421288

>>60419963
fpbp
unironically this, who the fuck cares about a random jp if nobody understand what's going on anyway

>> No.60421311

>>60421240
Yeah really the only difference between them is that Ayame is honest about not caring to stream and uses Twitter, while Gura does promise to improve though hardly communicates

>> No.60421315

>>60421138
>Irys
>JP
ogey

>> No.60421361

>>60421315
She's literally half JP tho, if a full EN member did what she did then there would probably be a lot more drama. Like listen to Bae's after stream, she sounded really uncomfortable with it

>> No.60421373

>>60420169
>>60419934
Ayame (1) streams more than Gura, (2) actually appear in collabs more than once a full moon, and (3) actually use Twitter so fans are aware that she is still around.
Gura would've gotten a lot fewer complaints if she simply did any of those 3. Instead, she pretty much just disappear from everything
I.e: leaving JPs aside since their audience and culture might be different, Mumei and IRyS had to took long breaks because of their health issues too, but they rarely went through more than 2-3 days without any sign of life anywhere and people don't complain that much about their absences.

>> No.60421382

>>60419934
>Ayame
>115 hours

>Gura
>106 hours

OP has a Jakartan education, I see

>> No.60421393

>>60421271
I don't get you mean by >By EN fans

>> No.60421441

>>60421311
It’s really a matter of picking shit of different consistency when you’re picking between them and the rest of fps zoomers. Thankfully there’s a handful of amazing holos to pick from though.

>> No.60421496

>>60419934
Because Ayame is honest and Gura isn't. That's it really. Ayame's talked about why she doesn't stream and it's that she doesn't really care to. She's upfront about it and there are no false pretenses.
Gura just makes empty promises all the time and doesn't deliver while pretending she cares when in truth she really doesn't.
There's the difference.

>> No.60421503

>>60421382
Worse, he's a chumbud.

>> No.60421539

>>60421373
Get the fuck off of Twitter.

>> No.60421672

were you not here for 2021 where /vt/ was filled with ayame anti threads talking about how she doesn't stream

>> No.60421768

I often forget Ayame is real, and every time I get reminded she seems more like a mandela effect than a real hololive member

>> No.60421864

>>60421373
This. Even if Ayame doesn't stream a lot (still more than Gura tho) she's already communicated to them why she doesn't and not with vague shit like "this is the new normal". That and like your 2 and 3 said she at least collabs and communicates with her fans regularly.
Comparing Ayame and Gura is like comparing day and night. The former cares, the latter doesn't.

>> No.60421880

>>60420921
Such as?

>> No.60421896

>>60421672
1: that was purely "backlash" from shcizo EN fans who never even watched her.
2: People have moved on to Gura as the main punching bag for streaming inconsistency

>> No.60421947

>>60421880
Uh are you a newfag or something, there have been several dramas within both Nijisan/Holo JP over weird stuff like jokes and shit

>> No.60421968

>>60419934
Ayame doesn't completely disappear off the face of the earth

>> No.60421991

>>60421864
When did Ayame ever say why she doesn't stream as much anymore, all ive ever seen is that she acknowledges it when it comes up but never directly says anything like >>60420037

>> No.60422032

>>60420037
KEK MY SIDES

>> No.60422105 [DELETED] 

>Ayame related baits STILL get almost 100 replies in this board
Grim. Are all retarded 15 year olds posting here or what?

>> No.60422150

>>60422105
Once again proving that jpnigs can dish it out but can't take it

>> No.60422313

>>60419934
I don't know, maybe because HoloJP has like 50 members that the absence of some isn't too much of a bad thing? EN had like 10 people pre-Advent and less than half of them stream consistently.
Also, EOP board. Almost every bait thread made in this shithole is about EN vtubers. The only place here where the JP side gets talked about is the /#/nog thread and that doesn't even happen if they're not streaming.

>> No.60422515

>>60419934
90% of/vt/ are EOPs who don't give a fuck about ayame, and she certainly doesn't get a pass. I hate her guts, I just don't watch JPs so she never crosses my mind

>> No.60422765

>>60422150
Now type that without crying

>> No.60422773

>>60420914
that's 96Neko.

>> No.60422798

>>60421947
Such as?

>> No.60422826

>>60420500
they ban "s*****a" but not just senzawa?

>> No.60422835

>>60422105
How is it bait if its true?

>> No.60422882 [DELETED] 

>>60422515
> I hate her guts, I just don't watch JPs
Third world country subhuman spotted.
Why would you HATE THE GUTS of someone that doesn't even affect you in any way?
You do know that girls have different contracts right? You do know that girls are not soulbound to a certain number of streaming hours per week right? You do know that Holo doesn't gain anything by firing those "part-timer" holos, right? You are just a drama tranny looking for every other opportunity to get outraged about something vtuber related.
You clearly don't have real problems in your own life so you need to keep making up shit to get outraged about.

>> No.60422925 [DELETED] 

>>60422515
>I hate her guts
So if she streamed 3-5 times a week you wouldn't hate her guts but you wouldn't watch her?
LMAO the absolute state of EOP drama trannies. They have to look for drama in another branch just to cry about something.

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>>60422925
Yeah, I hate people who are lazy.

>> No.60423016

>>60419934
Newfag wasn't here for the daily "x days since last stream" threads.

>> No.60423024

>>60421880
The doujinshi in the fridge

>> No.60423055 [DELETED] 

>>60422835
It's bait because /vt/ posters are subuhman retards that live in third world shitholes. Holos changed their contracts after gen 3 debuted. You can see that by how much all of the gen 0,1 and 2 stream, compared to everyone else after them with a few exceptions like Botan that had a ton of health issues, or other similar examples. Haachama was basically a part timer at one point, so was Aqua, Aki, Choco, Suisei (sometimes she barely streamed 2-3 times a month), etc. But you retards are mindbroken by Ayame just because /vt/ brainwashed you with endless bait threads.

>> No.60423098

>>60423016
That was happening well over a year ago, was only being pushed from the EN side, and people simply moved on to Gura for this

>> No.60423139 [DELETED] 

>>60422967
She could be working at a real job and just dropping by to stream every once in a while. Have fun shitposting 10 hours a day on /vt/ about "lazy people" you greasy neet.

>> No.60423146

>>60423055
>Just trust me bro, I definitely know what exactly changed from their contracts

>> No.60423185 [DELETED] 

>>60423055
Subaru and Miko are only exceptions to this because they are doing so well that they have no incentive to be part timers.

>> No.60423188

>>60423139
This is suppose to be their "real jobs" tho, like if they wanted this to just be a side-gig then they should fucking graduate and become indie. Don't half ass it when there are members who actually do put in an insane amount of effort and work in this

>> No.60423196

>>60419934
Ayame is in the office all the time. Korone and Lui have mentioned having dinner with her pretty much every time they go in.

>> No.60423273

>>60423146
I mean its pretty obvious that the contracts changed after gen 3 cause that's when Hololive really started to blow up.

>> No.60423285

>>60419934
>116 hours is less than 106 hours
So desu ne.

>> No.60423310

>>60423185
Even the least successful holos easily make enough to live off of.

>> No.60423343

>>60423196
Doing what though? The only reason why members would be at the office is if they are doing practice/3D stuff, which Ayame doesn't exactly do either cause she hardly does 3D streams anyway. Like she fuckin forgot that her model had swords she could use during a 3D stream a few years ago

>> No.60423366 [DELETED] 

>>60423146
If you weren't a disgusting EOP tourist and a clip watcher, you would know that Marine said how hololive changed their contracts after gen 3 debuted. Early gen girls set the foundation, and then they got serious starting from gen 3.

>> No.60423397

>>60423285
Ayame's hours are actually less because this is counting November/December of 2022 for some reason

>> No.60423437

>>60423366
Ive been watching since like 2019 bro

>> No.60423591

>>60419934
she cute and loves nakirigumi

>> No.60423703

>>60423591
It's a strange kind of love to only see them twice a month.

>> No.60423799

>>60420914
>male

>> No.60423833

ayame doesnt actually matter to the general industry, she mattered to hololives growth but thats it, shes not the most sub vtuber and shes hardly the most notable in hololive member.
/vt/ cared about her not streaming because it was an easy punchline, but now they got gura to use and its more reasonable to complain about.
>>60423703
i mean before the invent of electric communications, you could go years without seeing your lover so its not like it was strange at one point

>> No.60423953

>>60420169
I remember during her record-breaking "attempt" of not streaming, people put a lot of ESL comments under her videos about how she let everyone down by not streaming etc

>> No.60423972

>>60423833
>Le medieval cope
Lol

>> No.60424032

>>60423703
she tweets almost every day, I see that this upsets you chumbud

>> No.60424070

>>60419934
Ayame streams more.

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>>60419934
Plenty of popular vtubers are lazy as fuck but no one wants to shine that spotlight on their oshi so Gura is a shield from criticism.

>> No.60424149

>>60424032
>Le vtweeter cope
Kek, glad she puts less effort into pleasing her fans than she does ordering takeout for the night

>> No.60424279

>>60424032
>le tweeting
So she's basically just a vtweeter then lol. Streaming comes first, then communication. Sure she tweets a decent amount, but that does not take the place of actually streaming which she basically only does twice a month. I used to somewhat like Ayame back in the day, but have solidified my favorites as Pekora and Subaru because of how active they are

>> No.60424492

>>60419934
the difference is if you have 225,000 yen to blow you can see Ayame anytime you want for an hour but Gura is completely out of reach

>> No.60424594

>>60424492
>2,000$
Pretty cheap ngl

>> No.60424784

>>60424492
Does Gura even get nearly the same level of superchats that Ayame does, I thought Gura was on the low level of superchat rankings especially compared to Mori or Kiara

>> No.60424850

>>60419934
Because she is cute and JP fans have more options anyway

>> No.60424855

>>60424594
it's about $1,500, the yen is pretty low right now.

>> No.60427143

>>60424492
link?

>> No.60429279

>>60420693
Have you ever read a 2ch thread or seen Japanese schizos?

>> No.60429390

>>60421539
Find me an alternative way to interact with my oshi off-stream and outside of RL events, then

>> No.60429394

>>60419934
Ayame gets shit all the time and has done for years
But I forgive her because she's such a cutie, have you heard her giggle? God I love ojou.

>> No.60429475

>>60419934
Oh hello Tirrinz you got BTFO in /ggg/, /#/, and /hlg/ and you're still going? Stop leaking members content btw. And finally YWNBJ

>> No.60429521

>>60419934
isn't 115>106?...

>> No.60429542

>>60419934
Having the most subbed to Vtuber not stream is an embarrassment to the whole medium

>> No.60429607

>>60429279
Tirrinz please we've seen those cherrypicked images 1000 times already. Why don't you kill yourself already

>> No.60429817
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>>60419934
Remember that all talk of Ayame being a whore, that she does enjou kousai with fat, old, men, that she's constantly taking breaks to get stuffed by her boyfriend's cock, that's all rumors and can't be proven. But there sure are a lot of rumors and she sure takes a lot of breaks. Legend says if you get enough money and gain enough weight, if you walk down the right Japanese back alley at night, you might encounter her. Her ass is definitely loose just like her pussy. Gaping. She probably drips old man cum from every orifice.

What can be proven is she doesn't care about Hololive. She streams the bare minimum, when she streams at all.
>lowest number of hours streamed the last 6 months
>streamed literally once October and none at all in June
https://files.catbox.moe/5gy0h7.png
>makes up some excuse to explain her absence ranging from
I'm sick
https://twitter.com/nakiriayame/status/1446647834065833990
https://twitter.com/nakiriayame/status/1447060806500118531
My head hurts
https://twitter.com/nakiriayame/status/1451520313615798281
Tummy hort
https://youtu.be/AsvigP4y_5E
I have no internet
I'm moving
https://youtu.be/RBBntG9DnYI
Kiara moved halfway across the world and was back to streaming in under a week, Ayame took 6+ weeks while moving to a different spot in the same city
>didn't stream when "moving" but streamed for 1 million celebration, anons here found she was playing League of Legends the whole time
>fans accept her excuses, send her more money in one stream than some holo members make in a month, then fucks off again, repeats as needed
>continues to use one of these excuses at random
>was the only one to say nothing after Coco graduated, instead tweeting about airpods after the stream, then never mentioning her again
https://twitter.com/nakiriayame/status/1410816798681751554
https://twitter.com/nakiriayame/status/1410817106212388864
>ignored Ina's birthday drawing of her, even Ayame's mama replied
>didn't say anything to Miko after she got home from the hospital (for her chronic illness)
>never congratulates holos on birthdays or milestones
>doesn't respond when they congratulate her on hers
>wasn't there for Aqua and Shion's birthday totsu
>started totsu on her birthday in which Aqua and Miko appeared
>wasn't there for Miko's return stream
>wasn't there for Subaru's birthday or 1 million stream
>wasn't there for usaken summer festival
>wasn't there for usaken summer festival afterparty
>wasn't there for Christmas singing relay
>wasn't there for afterparty of song she released with Fubuki and Mio (Hyakkaryouran Hanafubuki)
>ghosted coco for a year about asacoco
https://youtu.be/mu_TRNccY6I
>never collabs with other holos
>Subaru and Choco mentioned she's the hardest to see online and in real life, "rarest among holos"
>caused SENPAITACHI OKBR stream to be delayed
>ruined the mood during SENPAITACHI OKBR stream by openly showing disinterest multiple times
>tried to end SENPAITACHI OKBR after doing it just once even though they changed the rules to accommodate her and it was delayed because of her
>late to monster hunter collab with Rushia by 40+ minutes
>participated in an Apex tournament without practicing or streaming it, sucked at it, and then said "everyone was serious huh?" while streaming it without even showing her avatar
>has a reputation of being a crazy lovable goofball due to Hologra, acts nothing like it on streams
>said in a members stream she only reads member comments and ignores non members
>only popular because of old clips and hologra
>only one of her team to not show up for sports festival pratice
>wasn't paying attention during sports festival
https://youtu.be/URSXpS-TdEc

>> No.60429926

>>60420389
Yes. It's a member who is also leaking Gura's content and posting it to other threads/boards. He gives Chumbuds a terrible name.

>> No.60430004

>>60420914
How new are you

>> No.60430085

>>60429817
i appreciate your work /vt/ schizo. you put in all the work i'm way too lazy and not interested enough to do. you have at least two dead links though.

>> No.60430222

>>60430004
I just got here, what did I miss?

>> No.60430335

>>60423343
My guess is that she's either a dance coach or an OL doing paperwork.

>> No.60430495

>>60420769
Chumbuds can't math what a surprise

>> No.60430981

>>60421311
>Ayame is honest about not caring to stream
Why won't she stream though?

>> No.60431009

>>60420037
Yeah gura sure is cute

>> No.60431069

>>60419934
Isn't the only reason for Ayame's popularity the hologras she's in? The most viewed hologra is the "yodazo" one

>> No.60431178

>>60429817
whats the deleted video?

>> No.60431207

>>60424032
Wow
... This is some serious cope...

>> No.60431250

>yet why is there so much backlash only directed at Gura?
Ayame was dicking around with hags in Minecraft, being weirdo on twitter and is still appearing in stuff like the Precure concert, meanwhile I have fucking idea what Gura is doing.

https://gugenka.inc/precurevirtualworld

>> No.60431328

>>60429817
The lazy cunt chuuba strikes again

>> No.60431356

I just want to know why Cover allows this

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>>60431250

>> No.60431492

Did Ayame stream more back in the day or has she always been like this?

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>>60431178
I dunno, its an old copypasta. Probably needs lots of updating.

>> No.60431575

>>60431398
the funny thing about this is that Ayame actually did some work in Minecraft at the start of the year but she did it completely offstream

>> No.60431631

>>60429475
Who are you talking about?

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>>60431492

>> No.60431733

>>60431549
so should i cancel my membership? i honestly dont know what to think anymore
is she a bad person not worth supporting or is there a valid reason for why she barely ever streams?

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>>60431733
Up to you, chief.

>> No.60432428

>>60431733
I'm not in her membership, so I might be negatively biased.
I think it's just mental issues or lack of enthusiasm to stream at this point. It might have started or at least it might have been aggravated by her family issues (her grandma - or was it grandpa? - succumbing to a mental illness affecting their cognitive skills, and her mom getting diagnosed with cancer) but it's been a long time since she talked about these events, so if her desire to stream hasn't improved since then, it's hard to say if it will ever will.

>> No.60433091

>>60431733
>or is there a valid reason for why she barely ever streams?
All the stated reasons are public, there isnt any actual concrete proof one way or the other. I wouldn't let /here/ make the decision for you, just look deep down and ask if you want to support her still

>> No.60433272 [DELETED] 

>>60421441
>the zoomers
What's really weird is that the oldest zooms are now the age that the many hagmillennials were when they started vtubing 6 years ago. It's weird that zoomers are so fucking lazy by comparison, especially when given the chance to just retire by 30 if they only fucking stream.

>> No.60433327 [DELETED] 

>>60430004
No clue who that is and not following your literalwho, seethe faggot.

>> No.60433382

>>60430335
i think she likes dance practice, maybe she uses it as a gym replacement

>> No.60434048

>>60419963
trueeeee people on here only watch JP clips including me but larp like they know everything

>> No.60434054

>>60421864
>and not with vague shit
lol
lmao

>> No.60434110

>>60424032
chumcucks DESTROYED

>> No.60434176

>>60431398
Wow, the legendary "Planned construction site" sign build... Ojou is truly amazing, sasuga.

>> No.60434842

>>60429817
She’s basically a more self-aware laplus. As shitty but she tries to hide it more.
What I still can’t understand is why even holos more popular than her crawl to her and beg her for collabs when most times she just ditches last moment using any kind of excuse.

>> No.60435025

>>60420266
Sure thing, newfag.

>> No.60435144

>>60431733
It’s up to you. If what she does is worth your money then by all means stay.
To me she’s the kind of talent I 100% won’t support (I don’t even follow her on Twitter or am subbed to her channel).
What I look for is people who’s hard working, grateful and wants to improve and she’s nothing like that. The fun part is caring about someone who cares about you and is always there to make you smile and to make that person smile too. To ayame hololive is like any wageslave job and she treats it like that and nothing more.

>> No.60435409

>>60431733
A bad person? Probably not. She just doesn't care enough to stream. Maybe she decided it wasn't for her, maybe she got burnt out. If you want someone that works hard and cares about their current activities go member to Watame, Koyori or someone else. If she gets active at some point you can think about it then.

>> No.60435964

>>60435409
Having a lot of people paying you and supporting you and not bating an eye at all, not caring about them and not even trying to give a little back is not something a good person do. She might not be a bad person by action but she’s a bad person by omission.

>> No.60440996

>>60424149
I mean, if you flip that around, the fact that Gura streams almost the same amount and doesn't put in that minimal effort on Twitter to please her fans really says a lot about how she feels about them.

>> No.60441146

If Ayame doesn’t care about Hololive, she does a good job of hiding it. If Gura does care about Hololive, she does a good job of hiding it.

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>>60419934
I see the holo vs holo shitposters are spouting crap and pretending to rile each other up already. You're not Chumbuds or Nakirigumi.
Anyway, the answer is that Ayame streams more consistently (two weeks of streams surrounded by nothing is worse than streaming once every week), has more collabs, more events, more music and more social media activity. She's also a veteran at this and much cuter, too.

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Has the ancient wisdom been forgotten again?

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>>60429817
Based Yammers making losers and commies seethe

>> No.60442634

Ayame and her fans both have come to terms with her schedule. Many, if not most, Nakirigumi actually prefer her not streaming much.
Her reasoning is that if she cannot stream with a smile on her face, she won't force herself to do it, because her perception is that so many people rely on her smile to get through another day. And watching her forcing herself to have fun is just painful for everyone.
Is this an excuse to be lazy? Maybe. Do we care? No.
The only people who get butthurt are the schizos here, the ones in 5ch and the people who don't watch her.

>> No.60443916

>>60419934
Ayame is gonna appear in a Precure concert. She also appeared in a music event recently with AyaFubuMi as a unit. She just has more idolshit than Gura.

>> No.60444165

gura is what happens when you don’t spank your chuuba when they do naughty things. chumcucks have established in guras mind that she can do whatever and they’ll still be here waiting like a desperate puppy. you should have given her the spanking of a lifetime on her plump shark patootie the first time she dared to not stream for an extended period with no valid excuse. now she is the dominant force in your strained relationship. but, all is not lost my friends. As we speak, lord Dimitri Jap is en route to guras current location. He shall unleash the unholy wrath of 4 million chumbuds upon her sinful cheeks. I will not lie to you fellows, she very well may not survive, as such levels of righteous correction has never been meted out in the near decade old history of vtubing. Should she survive, however, I guarantee you that your oshi will return to her cute and funny ways, with a renewed outlook on vtubing, ready to entertain her adoring public. Pray for her chumbuds, she needs you now more than ever before. Trust in her. Trust in lord Dimitri.

>> No.60445475

>>60435964
She's not forcing you to pay her though, anonchama. Her lack of activity is no secret so if it's a problem then don't pay her.

>> No.60445972

Holy fucking newfags
There was a time where, just like what gura is doing right now, ayame disappeared and was radio silent for like, 2 weeks or more? Or something?
And didn’t tweet at all, everyone kicked up a fuss and she had to tweet
From now on she’s been making sure to at least tweet every few days or so

>> No.60447129

For the past 3 year all we heard from chumcucks was.

The most important Vtuber ever.

Killer of the 4 kings.

Personal murdered Kizuna AI with her own hands.

Savior of Hololive.

Now she cant handle all the attention uwu. Tummy hurt uwu see ya next year guys uwu.

She and the chumcucks deserves everything there getting for her laziness.

>> No.60447162

>>60443916
with all the supposed projects she works on off stream you'd think gura would also be appearing in a bunch of stuff. she even stopped using that excuse though

>> No.60449974

>>60420500
Was the word "Barbie" actually banned? She banned the word Barbie but not J*y or B*pis?

>> No.60454334

>>60447129
>RedditSpacer
>Hates gura

>> No.60455213

>>60454334
everyone hates gura except sunk cost cumbuds

>> No.60456135

>>60455213
Delusional.
Most are indifferent. Uncaring, apathetic

>> No.60461372

>>60422765
he says, as he cries that /vt/ is using the techniques jpnigs pioneered on his jpwhores

>> No.60462633

>>60419934
>Ayame has actually streamed less in 2023 compared to Gura
How come your image shows her streaming more than Gura?

>> No.60463414

Good work chumgods, our discord raid has been successful to preserve our goddess' dignity and deflect to the jap whore. Provide receipts of your posts to the usual accountant and we will compensate you with a gift card.

>> No.60463980

>>60463414
once again proving that jpnigs can dish it out but can't take it

>> No.60469167

>>60432333
kek

>> No.60471399

Ayame doesn't force herself to stream when she feels like she's not in the right mood and focuses on her studies instead.

>> No.60471474

>>60471399
Yeah her studies playing lol with her boyfriend

>> No.60471527

>>60471474
yeah, me

>> No.60472010

>itt seething chumbuds doing their best to shit on one of gura's coworkers to deflect from their own shart
Why are chumbuds like this?

>> No.60472348

>>60444165
t. Shiori

>> No.60472519

>>60472010
It's the absolute state of chumbuds nowadays. All they can do is deflect and shit on others nowadays. It's why they're known as one of the worst fanbases on this board.

>> No.60474475

All these larping Nijifags...

>> No.60474512

>>60419934
one is transparent about her absences, the other doesn't.

>> No.60475209

>>60419934
She's been getting shit on by JP antis for many many months. There was no pass given to her.

>> No.60476864

>>60474512
ayame does show up in other people's things too. when was the last time gura was in someone's concert?

>> No.60477023

>>60422765
Every single thing on this board that ever got this reply, was already typed without crying. People who post this retarded cope should consider kts instead.

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There was an ongoing meme where someone would post a thread every day Ayame didn't stream, counting them one by one. It continued until she did end up streaming.

No fucking shit people are focusing on Gura now. They gave Ayame grief for ages and she isn't even EN.

>> No.60477746

>>60419934
ayame doesn't tell her fans she will be streaming more often or the following day, then ghost them as gura does. also, ayame does get shit, but not as much.

>> No.60478827

>>60421373
good post

>> No.60480806

>>60477616
things like that did end up getting to her and she would complain about them sometimes. like the other anon said these days everyone has accepted that ayame will only stream when she feels like it. she doesn't get as much shit now because she doesn't pretend she's going to resume regular streams and then disappear again

>> No.60481501

>>60477616
cute whore...

>> No.60483772

>>60419934
>>60420266
>yet why is there so much backlash only directed at Gura?
did you step on this board for the first time last month or something you fucking retards?

>> No.60483962

>>60421496
>Ayame's talked about why she doesn't stream and it's that she doesn't really care to
And yet she still has fans?

>> No.60484019

>>60419934
EN board, there's barely anyone watching JP vtubers on /vt/.
It's also easier to farm (You)s with Gura.

>> No.60484211

>>60420914
retard

>> No.60484311

>>60419934
because humanity doesn't deserve a full time Ayame. have you heard that bitch fucking giggle? it's better than melted cheese. er couldn't handle that every day

>> No.60484790

>>60484311
can confirm, ayame's nowhere close to being my oshi but those giggles are genuinely fucking dangerous.

>> No.60485462

It's strange, usually I don't give a fuck about chuubas I've never watched, but I feel in my gut that Ayame and Laplus deserve to live miserable, torturous lives. I don't even know why exactly, maybe some of the hateposts /here/ have subconsciously made me hate them. I've literally only ever seen like 3 clips of Ayame and watched 2 streams from Laplus so I have very very little reason to hate them, and I only think of them when I see a post about them. At worst I should feel annoyed with Laplus for ruining HoloX collabs. But I have no reason to have any feelings regarding Ayame. How strange.

>> No.60486220

>>60485462
You're getting mindbroken by vt. You need mental correction

>> No.60486636

>>60485462
You're just another autistic schizo anon.

>> No.60492504

>>60431356
Because people keeps buying merch and buying tickets for events. Cover doesn't give a damn if they stream or not, they get a cut from their activities for sure, but it pales in comparisson to how much they profit from merch and events.
As long as sales are good and they don't get into any drama they're fine with it

>> No.60495262

>>60419934
jap

>> No.60495464

>>60419934
Easy to explain

One is a jp lady who maybe has personal issues or is taking care of other business behind the scenes, its understandable why she doesn't stream.

The other is a lazy western whore who doesn't stream because she hates her fanbase because is an entitled western whore and prefers to be lazy western whore like the lazy western whore she is. This is not understandable but also not surprusing because she is a western whore.

See its simple to explain.

>> No.60495924

>>60420914
kurochan...

>> No.60497270

>>60419934
Ayame had the same amount of bait threads as gura before the latter's huge span of no streams. Anons just got tired of making them, do your reps next time

>> No.60497466

>>60423098
it happened 7 months ago

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I can't hate Ayame, I love her who mother loves her.

>> No.60499930

>>60499885 (me)
*I love her mother who loves her
word switcheroo, gomen

>> No.60502742

>>60431009
Name one quality from your pathetic whore, cumtard.

>> No.60504900

>>60419934
ayame is a WHORE

>> No.60505324

>>60504900
Yeah, mine

>> No.60506178

gura will never be japanese

>> No.60506726

>>60429926
They do that just fine on their own

>> No.60506840

>>60430981
Isn't her RM much more succesful than Ayame

>> No.60506887

>>60419934
Unless I'm blind, Ayame has more streams than Gura in that image
More hours at the very least

>> No.60508656

>>60506840
She doesn’t have an active roommate that I know about.

>> No.60509034

This stream is full of misinformation. It's hilarious.
Ayame did get a lot of hate. Way mire than Gura. Mostly because 5ch found something out about her.
Ayame's non streaming record is longer than Gura's.
The fucking EOPs in this thread saying Japanese fans don't hate on chuubas are hilarious. Laplus fucked off to twitch because of the hate. To be fair she's the Mori of JP and deserves it

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>>60420500
why is she afraid of ghosts?

>> No.60510983

>>60421496
>She's upfront about it and there are no false pretenses.
Yep, like when she told everyone she couldn't stream because she was moving and didn't have internet... for a month and a half. Whereas Kiara got herself situated in a week after moving all the way back to Austria. Other members have gone to the office to stream when they couldn't do it from home.
And I guess there are also no false pretenses when she acts nice whenever she decides to stream, but regularly turns down group activities and never congratulates other members on major celebrations. Very upfront indeed!

>> No.60511989

>>60510983
she doesn't make excuses anymore and I think if gura keeps not addressing her absence she'll get the same treatment

>> No.60512789

>>60511989
This is just a rat but based on what Holos talked about Ayame there is a high chance she is full time employee working for Cover.

>> No.60514128

>>60509034
Laplus went to twitch to suck more eceleb cock. She doesn’t care about her fans or hate as long as she gets money and clout to meet her beloved ecelebs.

>> No.60521949

>>60510983
>Other members have gone to the office to stream when they couldn't do it from home
roru, Ayame literally streamed from studio a few times during that time because she was already there for recording, this thread is full of misinfo about Ayame it's hilarious

>> No.60523044

>>60420177
Why do chumbuds pretend that Gura is way more popular than she is?

>> No.60523562

>>60523044
Gura has 4.5 million subscribers. That's literally the entire population of people who have ever watched a vtuber. Marine, who's second to Gura, only has like 2.7 million which is Twitch indie tier in comparison

>> No.60524143

Ayame was very consistent and did her work in the early days, got popular for that and because of her cute voice as well. She still shows up every now and then but people have mostly accepted that she just comes and goes, but when she does show up she usually does more than one stream before leaving again.

Gura doesn't do any of that. She did what, ONE consistent year of streaming before she slowly took her ghost leave? And her ironic tweeting became obnoxious really fast. She isn't some teenage shitposter, she should act like it. Gura just seems extremely unprofessional overall, I never liked her as a streamer. She can sing well enough to where it's pleasant but other than that she's extremely overrated and carried by the loli shark design. Call me an anti or whatever the fuck you want, don't care. Ayame isn't perfect but she at least bothers to give somewhat of a fuck every now and then, something Gura has refused to do since she figured out she can just leave and never face any consequences for ghosting literally everyone.

>> No.60524641

>>60447129
What imagine chumbuds are you cooking up to justify your shit? The last year even when Gura was around a lot nothing came close to that. Self projecting, your frustration about /#/ doesn't count.

>>60420037
>>60420141
>>60420177
>>60420389
>>60421896
>>60429475
>>60495464
Yeah . . . Gura being gone for two plus weeks doesn't add up to this amount of effort, fantasy making and blind anger by people who don't watch her.

>> No.60525065

>>60429817
>didn't stream when "moving" but streamed for 1 million celebration, anons here found she was playing League of Legends the whole time
>fans accept her excuses, send her more money in one stream than some holo members make in a month, then fucks off again, repeats as needed
>continues to use one of these excuses at random
>was the only one to say nothing after Coco graduated, instead tweeting about airpods after the stream, then never mentioning her again
What the actual hell?

>> No.60525911

>>60524641
Two weeks with zero communication or any sign of life. Just the same lame excuse of "real life shit". With the amount of money she makes, she should be able to buy her way out of any bad situation. With that much money, "real life shit" shouldn't fucking exist anymore. Your parents in the hospital? Just pay all their medical bills up front.

>> No.60532320

>>60523562
Subs don't mean shit you fucking retard. Do you actually believe they do, or are they just the last thing you have to cling to.

>> No.60532887

>>60532320
>Subs don't mean shit because I SAY SO
COPE

>> No.60533141

>>60435409
No, like Gura she's never enjoyed streaming this will never change. She's there for idol stuff and the few holos she still talks to like Mio.

>> No.60533250

>>60431356
She still brings in a lot of money. They lose a lot of revenue if she leaves.

>> No.60533281

>>60419934
>Japanese
>Not Japanese
It's not that hard, OP.

>> No.60534995

>>60532887
Subs mean jackshit after 2020 era. Or do you unironically believe that Ame is more popular than, I don't know, Subaru for example.

>> No.60535237

>>60534995
>Subs mean jack shit after we lost the sub game
JPCOPE

>> No.60535252

>>60524143
Ayame is at least as bad as the shark. Stop the gaslight.
Just because you don’t care about ayame to give a fuck doesn’t mean she can do the same as Gura and be better.

>> No.60535342

Why doesn't Gura just get Mumei to stream for her? Nobody would notice.

>> No.60536211

If Gura didn't blow up like she did she would still stream, I am almost certain. She doesn't stream because she's so paranoid about doing something that will doxx her.

>> No.60539153

>>60535252
ayame used to be as bad as gura but will show signs of life because her fans complained. gura slowed way down to the point I think she might be one of the least active holos

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