/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>60263820
graduation next?

>>60263820
So is she leaving soon or what?

>>60263820
it's over

Is she the next in VShojo?

>>60264539
The only way a graduation will happen is if she refuses to sign her contract when it comes to renegotiation. Which with how bad the company is it seems like a no brainer, but fears over financial security is probably keeping them from leaving.

For comparison reference, does anyone know if the JP side of Niji get alot of rejected ideas and shitty managements issues?

Hopefully she realizes some day that there's a life outside of Nijisanji
I get that it's scary and difficult to give up on a channel you've spent years building, but the sooner the band-aid gets ripped the better

>>60264855
They literally fired a girl because she made a joke about baseball

>>60264606
>>60264539
She keeps trying but they keep rejecting her proposed graduation stream ideas.

>>60264942
Who knows, maybe she's watching Mysta's reincarnation fares just to gauge whether or not she'd have a chance making it as an indie.
Like Zaion's return wasn't the greatest success numbers-wise, but she still makes a ton of money to travel around and go long periods without streaming.

>>60264539
>>60264606
>>60264942
she cant afford the graduation fees

>>60264539
>>60264606
Next week for sure

>>60264539
she has Stockholm Syndrome, so no

>>60263820
Who the fuck is a Pomu

>>60265021
gundou wasnt fired and that has nothing to do with what he asked

>nobody cares for his drama farming in the numbertranny thread
>make a catalogue thread instead

>>60258833

i hate drama but give me all the latest niji details please, A streamer i was watching earlier mentioned she tweeted her support to one of the girls but wouldn't go into details and I don't care at all but if you want to talk about it that's fine.

>>60265209
Well a lot of Nijisanji could also not stream for weeks and be fine. I’m pretty sure one of the guys over there hasn’t been streaming for a month because he’s been in Japan just chilling. And as for Mysta, is he making a ton of money as a Vshojo member? If he is then that could be an incentive.

>>60265021
WTF what? Why the hell would anyone want to apply if you can get fired for small shit like that? Didn't the EN boys do alot worse than a joke before, and I don't remember them getting in trouble?

>>60265585
fucking kill yourself

>>60264539
God I hope so. All Niji EN should graduate
t. Nijifag

>>60265417
>A numberfag chasing after a dramafag
rmao

>>60264539
>>60264606
No fucking chance.
She loves NijiJP too much to lock herself out of ever interacting with them again.

>>60266135
I dont know if its that, or more that Pomu is too scared of starting over out of fear of losing any connections, Niji or otherwise.

>>60265406
>gundou wasnt fired
Oh yeah, she was "asked to leave". Fucking bootlickers.

>>60266434
she had a graduation stream

>>60266513
Because that totally erases the fact that she got like 3 months of suspension before returning just to announce her graduation, right?

yeah mococo....
stick your bookmark into shiori

>>60264606
She's gonna have to if she wants to actually make money.

>>60266954
anon we both know how this ends. someone pulls out some metrics showing that she's actually doing very well for herself. another anon will bring up advent numbers. another anon will say 2% and someone else will reply with something about mysta. pomuschizo will pull out their copypasta shitting on council, and this thread will be dogshit the entire time. Why don't we just skip the middleman and have hot sweaty sex

>>60265406
>gundou wasnt fire
Anon that's just semantics, she was forced to quit over the baseball joke.

>>60265861
Japanese baseball fans are insane

>>60265406
Saddest cope in a while

>>60267406
>Why don't we just skip the middleman and have hot sweaty sex
sounds good to me

>>60263820
She shouldn't have mentioned getting projects rejected specifically. It makes the company look bad and her look disloyal.

>>60270054
Nothing can make the company look worse than it already does.

>>60263820
So true sis! #cut4hex
>>60267406
Only good post ITT

>>60265021
>>60265861
>>60268395
>>60268048
>gundou made a joke that made baseball fans upset so they fired her

no, gundou made a joke that, even though its fucking stupid, jeopardized their business deals with baseball events, which are a massive source of income and exposure. standing up for her at that point would have likely meant to lose their sponsorships and put themselves in the red, as well as tanking their reputation as a business partner. stop downplaying it. being "morally right" doesnt pay the salaries of hundreds of people, or the down payments on a yacht collection

>>60270290
mahjong wife did nothing wrong

What could be so bad that Niji management would reject it? Is Pomu trying to record erotic ASMR? Because if not it seems like the management are being indifferent faggots who don't care to support the talent.

>>60270290
>jeopardized their business
>a fucking twitter joke by a fucking woman
>firing a longtime employee over a fucking retarded woman joke
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>60270290
Tldr: baseball autism of Japanese people is at the same level of football autism of brazil

>>60270054
We're well past the EN branch looking good

>>60270054
Meanwhile
>enna openly talking about graduation and tells her fans to follow her indie persona
>Millie literally tweeting her PL
>Selen openly whining how management is fucking her over a dozen different ways
The EN branch is a complete shitshow and it has been for months. There are zero standards of decorum.

>>60266220
The only way she bails is if Kiara can confirm a spot to Pomu in hololive.

>>60265021
Not only is this statement completely correct, all of the defenses just make it worse. The pilpul weasel-worded corporatespeak just makes these companies look even worse; not only will they run you out of the company for the slightest infraction, they will do it in the most slimy bitchy 'conflict-avoidant' ways possible. Its a company run by a middle school girls clique. You do something that breaks no rules but its something they dont like, and then they will give you no formal punishment but do everything in their power to make your job harder.

>>60271768
Source for the Enna and Millie things? I've only seen the Selen part.

>>60265021
I'm still mad about that. Japs are so fucking sensitive over a fucking baseball joke no wonder they have such mild takes, the nail that stands out really gets hammered.
>>60266220
The only reason she's staying in Niji is because of her friends like Elira. Getting cut off from them would only make my favorite menhera (and I mean that endearingly) spiral downwards even more. I just want her to be happy, man.

>>60265417
based call-out

>>60267406
only good post in this thread

>>60271979
Enna
https://streamable.com/0upnau

Millie pic related

>>60265406
To be Frank she was rather happy to leave that shithole.

>>60271785
That's not happening in a million years. Cover gains more from hiring promising literal whos than Niji sloppy seconds. And sure, you can cope about Luna all you want but that was almost 4 years ago and never happened again so the odds are almost in the negatives.

>>60271069
NijiJP gets to be so creative and even edgy with their content and all types of creators can thrive there. Just watch all the stuff even Petra gets to be involved in. Petra, who is probably the least entertaining vtuber I've ever tried to watch. Meanwhile NijiEN produces some really low effort shit. I don't even know if the problem is NijiEN management just being inept or if their hands are tied because Anycolor just treats them like shit, from Sayu's testimony it sounds like a bit of both. It's fucked up too because NijiEN even 1.5 years ago was in a lot better place and if they want that glory back it would be wiser to just let their talents cook.

>>60265021
Let's just ignore all the other shit she's said over the last 4 years, how this was simply a good chance to let go of her, and how absolutely NO ONE mourned her ass.

>>60271100
Gundou wasn't exactly a model employee. She was everything people say Enna is

I hope she join Vshojo with Henya and Kuro, she'd be happier there

>>60273001
They don't watch her, just like they didn't (and still don't) watch Zaion. /#/niggers just take their side because nijibad.

>>60272743
If it ever happens in EN, Pomu's gotta be the exception. She's top tier whenever Anycolor doesn't make her depressed. Like the bird and the dogs she's also a proper old school otaku and I think she relates to and connects more to the "I like JP style but 日本語出来ない" audience better than anyone else in the business. She's super friendly and collabs very well and can reliably talk for ages. Her existing fans are already hardcore loyal and have good etiquette. It can't NOT be a win for Cover.

I just hope there's even an inkling of the thought of poaching her if Niji ever fumbles hard because like I said at the start she's a top tier entertainer. Her 3D Live was one of the best and she ad libbed a lot of it, imagine if she actually gets proper support.

>>60264942
interesting take about Pomu.
now imagine this exact same situation happening to Gura.

>>60264855
As much as I watch nijien the only nijijp I watch is Rion Takamiya and she doesn't talk about stuff like that as far as I am aware. She seems content.

>>60264855
Gwelu, granted a lot of the rejected ideas are the kind of project that would get him flamed like that Pekora anti song.

How far gone do you have to be to defend the baseball shit? I genuinely cannot understand how utterly brain damaged you have to be to think that she deserves to get fired over that.

>>60274332
it's not like it was a first strike (no pun intended) Gundou had been a dramawhore (and literal whore like a real one not just because she collabed with men) for her entire career. Better to cut your losses instead of risking sponsorships because of Jap autism.

Pomu and Selen have Stockholm Syndrome.
There is no salvation for them, they want to be in that shithole.

>>60274332
You don’t understand Japanese society
It got picked up by normal people detached from the VTuber scene and became a big deal
Regardless of how you feel about whether or not she deserved to face punishment, if it becomes a big thing it’s going to get blown up and taken completely out of context. At that point there is nothing else you can do, you have to address it in some way

>>60263820
Gabatte, Pomu!

>>60273402
Are you retarded? Gura is cruising and the simps give her income through merch sales a NijiJP could drool at, NijiEN isn't even in the same equation.

>>60274650
In a company has to make money sense, yeah I get why they did it. As for a person getting fired for it, it's very clearly not a good look to anyone other than jap boomers who don't give a fuck. I dare say it was a black company move.

>>60263820
fucking leech

>>60264842
To have financial security you would need to be getting money out of the deal

>>60275110
who?

>>60275225
retard

>>60263820
>ME ME ME
>dramafagging in the middle of Ethyria's anniversary and Iluna's first offcollab
No wonder literally every other niji, both inside and outside of EN, completely avoids her. And yet she has the gal to whine about how no one wants to collab with her or meetup for offcollabs.

>>60275368
I wouldn't be surprised if niji charged them money to stream

>>60274863
i see you can't imagine the possibility of being wrong, how pitiful. and i'm not even a chumbie

>>60275545
kill yourself /#/

>>60275519
>No wonder literally every other niji, both inside and outside of EN, completely avoids her.
I wish they did, but they always end up joining in her big branchwide cover projects like Virtual to Live, and Oto no Naru Hou e. I wish they would avoid her so she wouldn't have to carry the branch on her back so much.
>And yet she has the gal to whine about how no one wants to collab with her or meetup for offcollabs.
I wish that was true, but instead Pomu has 4 collabs this week, 2 of which were organized by her and had people sign up. I would rather people not sign up so she would do solo streams instead, but people just seem to really like collabing with her, she's just too popular.

>>60275707
I never said anything numbers related anon, are you ok? I'm saying that niji is a black company that doesn't pay their employees and most likely charges them in order for them to continue to use their models.

Remember when notGoundou and notWarabeda compared niji to a prison? No wonder everyone that gets out but keeps streaming on their personal accounts is so much happier. Lulu, Gibara, Gundou, Warabeda, Bora, Yuya, Zaion, Yugo, Mysta and you can bet Nina will be much happier too when she comes back under a new identity. Pomu herself was much happier as Mint.

>>60275855
you're not fooling anyone with your shitposting. your pagpag is getting cold.

>>60275891
>Pomu was much happier as a wage slave with medical bills
fucking kill yourself

>>60272823
you sound like a complete retard

>>60275955
Enjoy your ban nijisister

>>60276005
>>60276005
Cope seethe and dial8. And don't forget to 41%

>>60275891
ah yes the prison that gundou and warabeda renewed contracts

>>60276005
You didn't watch Pomu nor Mint. As Mint she never talked about her own medical bills but about her cat's (the one before Pomusuke) that ended up dying in early 2021. As Pomu she said multiple times that her job's insurance covers all her medical bills related to the surgery.
You're just a nijinig seething that Pomu is exposing kurocolor for the black corpo it is.
Also here's my 2 years Pomu membership in case you dare to say it was I who never watched her you disgusting nijinig :)

>>60273002
Then fire her for the real reasons, I mean, they had an entire list for Zaion.

>>60276296
Uhhhhhh nijibros our response?

>>60263820
>>60264539
Why would she leave? She's central when it comes to nijien as a whole to the company and being in the first nijien group Lazulight. Not Elira or Finana but Pomu. If management keeps fucking being retarded stupid bitches if she was really serious her leaving would be huge but sadly I am of the belief even then the top dumb fucks at niji and their management's incompetence will remain intact even after that.

There's still no en concert for the branch anywhere in sight. I'm wondering if any nijien would be allowed to participate in niji's concert in December if it's not cancelled.

>>60263820
Sounds like you need some freedom Pomu

>>60276428
>There's still no en concert for the branch anywhere in sight.
You might check the nijien thread anon. There is a concert incoming but only for Luxiem, Noctyx, Iluna and Xsoleil.

>>60276100
>>60276157
not an argument

>>60264722
Holo Invader.
I think Hololive could build a fairly solid full gen just out of depressed NijiEN chuubas who want out.

>>60276422
eh... huh... a.... HOLOBRONIES

>>60276463
I bet you as soon as he saw that tweet he hopped straight into Pomu's DMs

>>60276558
>so Pomu I have a single question for you
>do you like backpacks?

>>60276463
>>60276558
REPEAT AFTER ME ANONS
TALENT FREEDOM!! (To be a whore)
TALENT FREEDOM!!! (To troon out)
TALENT FREEDOM! (To break NDA)
TALENT FREEDOM!!! (To not have responsibilities)
TALENT FREEDOM!! (To talk about politics)
TALENT FREEDOM! (To not be a professional)
TALENT FREEDOM!! (To be an activist)

>>60276296
She's my kami oshi faggot. She was miserable as a wagie which you should know and the only reason she was able to quit was because if Nijisanji. Hope you know you're siding with the people who wished death upon her and posted her doxx on the catalog, you stupid nigger

>>60276665
>Hope you know you're siding with the people who wished death upon her and posted her doxx on the catalog
I haven't saw phasefags in the thread. Yet.

>>60272743

They hired Shiori/Natsumi who's literally the Chinese sloppy second who disappeared into Bilibili space void on top of known having a boyfriend. As long as you have the talent I dont think they mind.

>>60276692
>deflecting and revisionism
phasefags weren't even a thing when she had to get surgery and were barely a thing when Pomu's doxx dropped

>>60276755
Point is that they will never take in a niji because of their sheer size, for one no nijinigger has any right of being in holo and second it's too much baggage for holo a nijinigger isn't worth it.

>>60275225
didnt Pomu quit her office job to be a full-time vtuber? she wouldnt do that if she wasnt making money

>>60276937
he's not being genuine, dude

>>60264855
Even for Hololive Marine has said that you practically have to tell management to fuck off and do it anyways. She gets away with it because she is literally the biggest Vtuber they have atm tho~

>>60277043
I've always thought Pomu should try doing stuff and asking for forgiveness later. She's got the daisenpai status of EN she can easily do shit without getting in too much trouble.

>>60265021
Gundou was actively a bad person who enjoyed just creating drama for her entire career, it was her entire appeal while also being her downfall. The baseball comment was just the straw that broke the camel's already horribly bent back, much as people here like to pretend it wasn't out of ignorance or just "nijisanji irrationally bad"

>>60277146
i can only imagine if enna get terminated or suspended what they will say about her. before gundou was horrible, after that she became an angel here kek

>>60276825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN8hQ0mecno

>>60277180
Gundou was everything this place says Enna is x100

>>60271768
>>60272625
>enna openly talking about graduation and tells her fans to follow her indie persona
This never happened fucking idiots lol. Pathetic that you have to blatantly lie even as you expose yourself with the clip that your listening skills suck.
>Millie literally tweeting her PL
Only those who know about that user would know lol. Not the average fan.
>Selen openly whining how management is fucking her over a dozen different ways
Not surprising the levels a pathological manipulator and liar has to construct their words for catalog faggots to eat up when it never happened in the way they are describing it. Tweeting shit now means to whine.
It's the EN management branch that is a shitshow not the talents fucking turd.

>>60277325
based

the absolute state of nijibootlickers

>>60274905
See, the thing about Gundou is that she's caused many MANY controversies in the past with her own niji colleagues, Hololive fans, and fans of other streamers.
But Anycolor could not fire her for any of them.
Some of the shit she's said would have the same people defending her right now call for her blood.

But each and every time it happened, she simply deleted her tweet or video and then moved on, and the drama just fizzled out leaving maybe just a few antis who remembered what she said.
She is partially the reason that Niji managers now have access to talent channels (which led to other issues like the one with Ibrahim).

But this is one occasion where the flame caught on a bit too strongly.
She was just a little too obvious in her lies (about not knowing about baseball) and exposed a bit too much of herself by saying horrible shit simply for the attention.
Her entire past history was dumped on Twitter, fueling the fire even more.
And Anycolor finally saw the chance to cut off the rot that's been plaguing them for so long... and they got to all of that with zero reputational damage.
> but the dramatubers
If Anycolor gave even half a shit about the EN branch they'd have pruned several of their more problematic talents, but they simply see EN as a money making machine. JP is, has been, and always will be their priority.
When Gundou got fired, their stocks went UP. That's how much she was hated by JP nijifans.
The whining of the ignorant EOP masses who never even watched her is absolutely pathetic in comparison.

>>60264539
I hope so, her and Selen would be great as indies

>>60278217
sister post
mahjong wife did nothing wrong

>>60278217
they'll never listen

>>60278217
This is some high level delusional shit I've seen on Gundou holy fuck. Even going as far as including the EN branch and saying there's some problematic talents in the branch fuckling hilarious what this mf is conjuring up. This moron doesn't know how stocks work lmao. Even trying out their hand on manipulating EOP who may know nothing about Gundou and seeing through the injustice that she received while this low life justifies she is deserving of it. I'd be careful with nutjobs like this guy who more than likely doesn't watch the EN branch or a single stream of Gundou. I'd probably go as far as anybody in nijijp. Disturbing evil fuck.

>>60263820
Nice Pomu is graduating next. Yugo was posting the exact same shit before she quit

>>60278726
>>60265259

Besides Pomu, Millie, and Selen, who else is going to leave?
I know that Luxiem rn is too good to lose for kurosanji.

>>60278691
do you even know who her best friend was, EOP chan?

>>60263820
Why is she so lazy?

>>60278353
>>60278691
remember when she faked going on vacation and got caught by having a Japanese garbage truck in the background?

>>60263820
Luca is going to be really sad with his cocksleeve gone. Who will he fuck next? Worse rosemi seems like a safe bet

>>60278691
It’s /vt/ and it’s Jakarta hours. Of course he’s lying.

>>60263820
They just try following oldman bait
"Graduation" sike I just take a long hiatus for another my YouTube channel w

>>60278860
This ain't about her being a fucking liar. This is about her black company unjustly firing her over a pathetic joke to a baseball organization to calm down sensitive fanatical monsters.

>>60278906
ironic.

>>60278906
Since you said that it got me curious if that bastard could be that bunny guy.

>>60278952
it's almost like she was a bad fucking person who did nothing but cause drama. Never mind that she quit and even had a graduation stream.

>>60263820
Hate seems like too strong of a word, its unlikely they have anything personal against her

>>60275554
Pomu works, Gura doesn't, you fail to see that they aren't standing at the same position in their companies. Gura has no reason to leave, she also does the bare minimum, and will always be successful as she has genuine charisma. Why would I imagine Gura in Pomu's position when it is unrealistic? Dumbass

>>60270290
that's a lot of words for "she made a joke that made baseball fans upset so they fired her"

>>60276638
I love backpacks

>>60272743
Retard. In entire EN only FuwaMoco and Gura are better streamers than Pomu but Gura doesn't stream anymore and FuwaMoco are so unique you won't find a pair like that ever again. Nabbing Pomu would be a huge win for Hololive talent-wise. There are only two potential problems: 1) possible non compete clause of holo vs niji in contract 2) niji toxic fanbase

>>60279020
nta but that's just fucking sad and I am not referring to Pomu but to her fanbase who are too stupid yet reward minimalist like Gura who clearly has lost her mojo to stream.

>>60279065
>Nijibeggar literally cannot stop begging for Pomu to join hololive
This is hilarious

>>60279020
>>60279128
Gura's fanbase not Pomu's fanbase I meant to say.

>>60264842
On the other hand, Pomu's fanbase seems pretty closely-aligned with her and if she quit and became a woe-is-me indie she'd get some super-strong saviorfags donating at incredible hihg speed. But would she make as much as she does now? I mean if Rushia, Coco etc are trajectories to look at then that seems unlikely - she'd retain a large chunk, she wouldn't be penniless suddenly but I'd guess it's likely it'd just go down by a third or half or something pretty much as a given. She'd also lose that model and it seems hard to think of her as something other than a lil' fairy now, for some reason it just suits her.

I guess as a plus, she'd be free of management hassling, being signed up and involved in drama and conflicts she never wanted anything to do with both in and out of niji against her will, and the depressing vibes feeling of being on an obviously-sinking ship. Being totally her own boss and not having any pressure to perform or keep up while probably maintaining decent income while being able to stream totally on her own terms as much or as little as she wants, sounds sort of like a pension plan in effect where she's "retired" from being a tryhard big corpo chuuba but still leisurely around. Dunno if that'd be her cup of tea.

>>60273945
that's probably a lot of the EN projects too, genius ideas like Secret GC

>>60270290
so in other words, they fired Gundou for the baseball joke she made.

>>60279128
>>60279193
Yeah, it is sad but what can we do? Retards keep refreshing Gura membership even when she doesn't do a single stream or community post for entire month. All we can do is shame them until they slowly start seeing reason.

>>60276638
Huh, I thought he was thinner than that, more like TheMcDonaldsRun amirite.

>>60276474
>You might check the nijien thread anon. There is a concert incoming but only for Luxiem, Noctyx, Iluna and Xsoleil.
WHAT??? Are you joking? If this is true how the fuck are they leaving out the literal singer of the branch which is Ethyria? This shit is insane to me. This can't be true.

>>60277324
So, 100x nothing that is actually bad except in the minds of schizo /here/ retards?

>>60279311
Fuck off Kyo.

>>60279309
it isn't you brain dead retard

>>60276825
Do you newfags ever get tired of embarrassing yourselves

>>60263820
She said in a recent stream that her mental health is in the shitter

>>60278691
This smells like niji intern damage control.

>>60279065
man I've watched a bit of early Pomu and MGS Pomu and all I can say is that she's maybe slightly above average in terms of streaming skills.
The thing is, even below average holos can do big projects to get their name out (e.g.Bae). It's possible in Niji as well but only Selen's been able to push that boundary.
Pomu doesn't have a good answer to the question of "what can you add to Hololive?"

>>60279425
i'm sure everything does to you

>>60278860
How awful, she should be executed for such a horrific act

>>60279558
so you've watched almost nothing of her yet you feel you have the knowledge to judge her? Do you hear how retarded you sound? There's a reason everyone in EN is a huge fan of her. Even Selen would call Pomu more creative than her.

>>60279568
Nah. You sound like average sea retard who never worked in his life.

>>60279558
>I can say is that she's maybe slightly above average in terms of streaming skills.
Somebody with years of experience such as yourself I'm sure we can trust your word and not feel an ounce of suspicious. Thank you anon for your years of service.

>>60279576
Did you miss the part where she did countless offenses over the years? What people accused Zaion of, Gundou did much worse, for a lot longer. Most of Niji breathed sigh of relief when she was finally gone.

>>60279674
Post proof with screepcaps or fuck off, drama nigger.

>>60279674
How dastardly and appalling! Take Gundou to the high courts of Japan and expedite her sentence immediately!

>>60279738
Lurk more nigger.

>>60276755
Bro, half of Hololive have known boyfriends and some are know to be married. Not surprising for a corpo of mostly hags

>>60265406
She got japanese fired anon, they have huge loopholes in their laws to avoid having to pay severance and unemployment insurance

>>60265058
I'm kinda upset you got no (You)s, this joke was gold

>>60279813
what the fuck are you talking about, they are contractors, they dont have severance or unemployment insurance

soo many niji beggars in this thread lmaooooooo

>>60276825
>Point is that they will never take in a niji because of their sheer size,
Retard
>for one no nijinigger has any right of being in holo
Subhuman
>second it's too much baggage for holo a nijinigger isn't worth it.
Chimp

Her Luca’s Cumrag outfit and Bukkake reveal stream was rejected by management.

>>60279795
No, I don't think I will.
Show me the sights or fuck off.

>>60280018
Nijiseeth, mind your manners in front of your betters

>>60278691
Internchama...
Here's a list of shit she's said that have public or archived records -
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NfphOfqSZLg
Obviously there's a lot more stuff that was quickly deleted stuff which are only available in obscure blogs and other sites.
Or this particular video : https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm35696189 (starting at 7:00)
Where Yuzuki Roa from Nijisanji who was very close with her tearfully says she can't collab with Gundou sensei anymore because of Gundou's fans shitting on her constantly, saying how Gundou can't act like her usual self when she's around, treating her like she's an "extra" etc.
https://youtu.be/rQFbQFN5E3I
Gundou's response didn't address what her fans said at all, she just casually said "You become friends with the girl who sat next to you at the entrance ceremony, but when school starts you make friends who click more with you, and you stop talking to the girl who sat next to you at the first entrance ceremony, is that bad?" and also "Roa is an idol and I'm an AV actress.".
Due to which there were a lot of memes about Roa possibly being able to return now that she's left.
You did say I was "manipulating EOP" so you probably don't need a translation for these right?

>>60263820
Hagdom is creeping in, her eggs are drying up. Please, save her...

>>60280164
Retarded tourist.

>>60280018
Luna "erasing" Moruru's name on her recent playthrough of MGS, and publicly acknowledging it will always be funny for me.

>>60263820
I don't even mind what she's done or how much of a bitch she is but her fans were a bunch of lunatics back then so I will just say she deserves it

>>60280937
What did she do, anon? What "back then"?

>>60263820
It's really sad to think back to the early days when it felt like NijiEN had smart and laid-back managers. Turns out they just had basically no management back then and the management that was hired later on sucks ass.

>>60276428
>Why would she leave? She's central when it comes to nijien as a whole to the company and being in the first nijien group Lazulight.
Because the boys are the real focus for NijiEN and Pomu would be way bigger and have way more opportunities in hololive. "Pomu" has made her mark, but she deserves more than the 1 small Lazulight concert that they got to do.

>>60280937
the fuck are you talking about?

>>60281029
pomu quite literally praised her new manager for going above and beyond for her in a very recent stream but no one here would know that because they don't watch streams and would rather rehash the same outdated catalog bait and argue about JP

>>60281115
>very recent
See, that's the thing. There have been 2.5 years of shitty management before. That's the problem. You can't fix that in a month.

>>60281115
Doesn't change that the overall management sucks and her projects keep getting shut down. Either her manager is actually not that great outside of doing their job that one time (Pomu will have low expectations of management at this point), or there's asshole higher-ups that make a decent personal manager mostly meaningless.

>>60281102
Her fans were forcing cringe unity through the worst EN, Kiara. Kiara was a garbage human being but the pomufags would judge you anyway for not having stockholm syndrome. It's the most annoying shit ever, not to mention how much I disliked Nijisanji

>>60281190
>>60281242
of course it's upper management's fault, it always is. there is absolutely nothing a vtuber's personal manager can do if the higher-ups say "make AR live happen" and then "cancel AR live" later.
my initial response was addressing the claim that they had "smart and laid-back managers" which got worse over time, when the more likely scenario is just that anycolor didn't really give a shit about EN until luxiem
>her projects keep getting shut down
she plans a fuckload of projects. a lot of them get shut down and a lot of them happen successfully. it is not some recent development that projects get denied, it happens to your oshi too unless they're lazy and don't have any projects they're working on

>>60281311
oh so you're just an asshole, got it

>>60281311
>cringe unity
Nothing wrong with consensual cross-branch collaborations, its not like liking a particular chuuba or corp means you have to dislike all others

>>60281311
Anon this might surprise but vast majority of those weren't Pomu fans.

>>60278906
Speaking of which, page 10 now has threads that are over 3 hours since the last post, how is the board this slow tonight?

>>60281464
/vt/ has threads with lots of replies and most of activity is focused in generals. Now look at /a/ where majority of threads barely get any response.

>>60281342
>my initial response was addressing the claim that they had "smart and laid-back managers" which got worse over time, when the more likely scenario is just that anycolor didn't really give a shit about EN until luxiem
Read carefully - I said that "it felt like NijiEN had smart and laid-back managers". I'm aware that Anykara just didn't care early on. But that they had good management was a common misconception at the time.

>>60274583
yeah I guess some people don't realize but Pomu is a hardcore NijiJP fan she would never betray her affiliated company senpai.

>>60275826
>I wish they did, but they always end up joining in her big branchwide cover projects like Virtual to Live, and Oto no Naru Hou e.
this is because she's willing to pay their collab fees.

It's clear as day now that management HATES Selen and Pomu as much as they hated Mysta...
Mysta quit. What are they waiting for?
Guess money is an issue and they earn better in niji than they would as indies.

>>60281528
You're not wrong, but Pomu is a vtuber fan in general. She just wants to watch cute girls.

>>60281115
>new manager
Hence the word "new manager".

>>60281510
I know, it's just there seem to be unusually few bait threads tonight. Not that I'm complaining, but.

>>60281555
Mysta was/is a dumb menhera cunt. he acted more like a woman than anyone in either company

>>60281578
bait has been slow for a week or two which is why people here are grasping at straws over a nothingburger. the main actual drama recently has been the AkioAir stuff and things happening to other small corpos, but it's not holo/niji/vshojo so the board doesn't really care

>>60277146
>>60277180
Interesting how nobody ever cites what Gundou did wrong, other than offending the sensibility of the Baseball Peoples.

I'll have the schizo hating on my mahjong wife in this thread know that Gundou has never been happier since leaving Nijisanji. She's been collabing with a lot of indies (including ex-Nijis, with whom she laughs at how shitty being in Nijisanji was), writing articles for Kindai Mahjong, and apparently she's doing financially better than ever before especially after her Fantia took off. Soon she's going to get her new model and humiliate her autistic antis eternally.

>>60278217
this is some "She hurt the feelings of the chinese people" level schizo

>>60281555
>What are they waiting for?
Management approval. Mysta planned his graduation a year in advance. Similar with Nina. They both wanted to graduate for a long time and were waiting for management to approve it.

>>60281866
you fucking liar

>>60281866
So now with the cancelled projects they got it.

>>60281883
ogey

>>60281866
>>60281883
>>60282010
Mysta bitched about it at least nine months in advance. The graduation buzz was almost half a year ago.
Nina was significantly shorter but we're still talking 2-3 months advance warning
It was never sudden for corpo tuber, unless they're terminated. Even Vespa and Magged took two months to resolve (at least based on Astel's speculation and limited knowledge)

>>60265021
But now she's doing lewd asmr on fantia so I'm reaping all the benefits

>>60270290
>I sell a product for nerds
>I sided with sports fans over nerds in front of the nerds

literally needs western cultural education to continue his job properly

>>60284180
>sports fans aren't the biggest, most militant nerds on the planet
Not sure if copium or ignorance

>>60284223
they arent smart enough to be nerds, just autistic enough to tell you how many points Obobo Mbwele scored in the 06 season

>>60270290
>>60271203
Reminder that Nijisanji once wrote a full aplogy on Twitter only for the company they were apologizing to to respond with
>Huh?

>>60284294
It's not about being smart, but they're even more autistic than VTuber numberfags by a notch when it comes to player market, team value, and general sports math.

>>60284374
which company?

>>60281029
Oh shit, they finally reduced Selen's neck size

>>60284496
IIRC it was the deez nuts company, their reply was something along the lines of
>we weren't aware x happened, thanks anyways
The disconnect was surreal

>>60277146
maybe that would work as an argument if other people got the same treatment
in reality nippleman has done more damage in 2 years and their response wasn't punishment, but instead continually wiping his ass for more than a year

>>60284223
kinda goes back a long way. on 4chan in particular it brings up the time the FBI decided to try to shut down the site over someone threatening football only for it to turn out to be a single teenager. they had to be made to reflect upon wasting millions of dollars on a kid's shitposts by a judge, they wouldn't do it themselves. /b/ has that "only a fool" header just to mock them. basically this stupidity is so hard-coded into american culture the pre-corruption FBI was willing to act as an arm of SPORTZZZ no cap. corrupt FBI would probably do the same thing to look like it's former self except every announcement would be given by a massive female nob surrounded by her trans grotlings.

>>60265021
look at the shills replying to this kek

>>60263820
None of that is true

It's a fucking black company.
Pomu and scarle stop being retarded and get the fuck out. It's an abusive shitty company, don't just sit there and take it like you're stuck in some domestic

>>60270290
translation: she got fired because she offended the feelings of the baseball people

>>60279020
Weird for a "coasting" Gura to be vocal about hololive being cgdct during tempiss arc, complain about her gutted 3dlive and her unreleased cover then, dont ya think? Moron.
>>60279287
>imagine saviorfagging chumbuds huhehe faggot

Did something bad happen to hololive?

>>60281311
qrd on why we hate kiara?

>>60290672
Fast food CEO meaning she gets rich poisoning people with greasy ass fried chicken, plus she's from Eur*pe.

>>60272035
I want some of the EN Nijis to be happy too, but after a while there just comes a point where you have to write off the branch as a lost cause. Unless management flew the branch to Japan to do some 3D recordings, it's just done. It's just a step up above being a 2view indie, it doesnt have much to offer anymore that would warrant the headache.

>>60265406
>we were always at war with gundou

>>60273001
nijifags are religious faggots who serve the brand not the talent, why do you think they harass every talents that leaves? they live in a delusion that anyone who leaves is a holospy/vshojospy and is trying to destroy the brand

>>60291323
no one harasses Nina, Yugo or Mysta. Zaion and Gundou are the only ones who have gotten hate and that's mostly from twitterfags. Also, you faggots are one to talk seeing as this thread wouldn't even exist if Pomu had a blue dorito you bunch of fucking hypocrites.

>>60291691
i watch more indie than holo bro

>>60291728
And I watch everyone. that doesn't change my point at fucking all.

>>60270290
>Hololive gives up on the (at the time) very relevant mainland chink market to show solidarity with their liver
>Nijisanji fires a liver because it'd damage their profits to keep her around

>>60291691
As if hololive drama never got bait threads on this board. Stop with the random tribalfagging and stay on topic.

>>60279065
How do you even enforce non-compete when identity behind avatar is secret?
Let’s assume Pomoo jumps a train, and Holo gets new talent within a week who talks like Pamu, behaves like Bomu and literally every fan can tell who she used to be. How would Anycala pin new holomem as their escapee? Cover is not obliged to disclose identity of their talents to anyone and “well, we think she is” is not a solid ground in court.

>>60281716
Man this comes from someone who actually really enjoyed watching Gundou, it would be easier to list what she didn't do wrong. She was horribly crass, but not in an endearing or funny way like Coco, constantly talked about sex, constantly ridiculed virgins, talkled about her sexual experiences at length, dragged other members of Nijisanji into her shit. Everyone here thinks Hoshikawa is a scandalous slut but she's actually normal, to the point where her fans actively tried to stop her from collabing with Gundou. Gundou constantly made fun of people, mocked groups of people, really she was the opposite of not how vtubers are expected to act, but also a complete antithesis to fucking Japanese society as a whole, really. That's why i liked watching her antics, it was interesting to see someone so actively unbothered by the strong social conventions around her, but at the same time i would only describe her as actively obnoxious. When the baseball thing happened and she finally got her comeuppance i was only surprised that it took that long, and even then she still got the final laugh, if you watch her final video where she apologizes and announces she's graduating it's the most blatantly half-assed apology where you can actually just hear how she's almost laughing trough the whole thing. She's incorrigible.

>>60279260
getting a fifth of her current fanbase already would give her more money than bieng on niji

How many estrogen pills you gossiping holosisters take a day?

>>60293384
Literally sounds like Enna

>>60293465
They make tons off voice packs and supas/streamlabs. Pomu bought a fucking Metal Gear pachislot on a whim and dropped several thousand on her last cover. she makes plenty.
captcha: luvhag

>>60293992
you don't watch her faggot

>>60293992
No, it sounds like what the people on /vt/ who don't want Enna think she's like

Pomu is the faithful type, I don't think she would leave Niji unless it goes down to utter chaos. BUT if that ever happened she is 100% joining Vshojo because of her oshi, if you know you know.

>>60294194
This doesn't get brought up enough, but yeah. Her chuuba kamioshi is a Vhoejo now, so the possibility can't be totally wrote off.

>>60265406
>gundou wasn't fired she (((graduated)))
i'm shocked there are still stupid fuckers out here who fall for this

>>60265058
I laughed at this

>>60294007
This is a catalog thread they don't even know about all the nijimembers buying their own houses and shit. They think all the nijiens are serfs tilling rikus land

>>60270290
So in summary, yes, they fired her for doing a joke that made baseball fans upset

>>60284604
That seems like it was setting groundwork for their excuses to fire Zaion rather than an actual apology. (Zaion made a deez nuts joke about being sponsored by Deez Nuts)

>>60263820
Bro that really does sound like she got shit on by management for shit not panning out, I have personally been there. They see quota and what went through, not all the legwork and setbacks between delivery of output.

Fuck middle-managers and the executive suite.

>>60296994
Oh fucking lmao I googled Dees Nuts and they just sued Mr Beast for having a Deez Nutz flavor chocolate bar. Some companies really are that petty

>>60274726
>soon.tm

>>60265861
rare darkspace ogey, saved

>>60263820
Has any of the other members commented on this?

>>60276755
>>60279802
Absolutely, I don't think whoever sifts through applications over there gives a shit about that, hence the thick finger gloves during live streams everyone complain about ect - its cover.

They care about people having a drive to deliver, and not having a shitshow. See how they picked up a bunch of people, who struggled but kept going.

I think that is what they look for instead.

What the hell happened here...

>>60264539
No way, Pomu has tied herself to NijiEN, she'll go down with the ship willingly.

>>60298267
Nina said things along the same lines not long before she made the decision to graduate.

>>60265058
Quality

>>60271785
I don't even care about Pomu, but it would be nice if something good happened to Kiara once in a while.

>>60293133
>implying biggest market on the planet is not relevant now
Such sad holocope.

>>60302400
that market requires to sell your soul to interact with it.
Hololive did the right move.

>>60302400
Very relevant to hololive, anonchama. Strawmanning to score gotchas on a Sri Lankan Rowboating Forum isn't a great use of your time.

>>60302493
>more meaningless coping
Westoids sell their "souls" for peanuts anyway, kek.

>>60302601
Which is exactly what I said.

>>60302630
>Which is exactly what I said.
No, you tried to disagree with something I didn't say (that the CCP market is irrelevant in general nowadays).
What I said is that the CCP market used to be important for Hololive but does not play a major role for Hololive nowadays.

>>60263820
just quit and join hololive, even ntr connect is good for her, idk why she is still in that shit hole 2bh, the same goes for selen except that vspo is the best corpo for her.

>>60263820
No no no. Everything is fine and dandy with Nijisanji and the management staff. This is obviously a liver or an artist fuck up. You wouldn't want to make Luca angry or Millie sad spreading misinformation about their beloved multimillionaire company now would you? That's just rude!

>>60303018
Brownoid post.

>>60270937
mahjo mama!