/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Sadge, I liked her

Project COPE

>>60139273
It's just Council but with IRyS instead of Sana

So does Council still exist?
Or did they delete that too?

>>60139273
Kek
>Where were you when hope is kill?

>>60139743
No more council or project hope, only promise now.

do they promise better songs for IRyS?

>>60139743
Council dead with Sana
Irys now no longer smugly tacked on with the name CouncilRys and part of the group proper.

>>60139743
They decided councilrys sound stupid so they made it into Promise
>Geddan spin.exe

>>60139859
She’s not a vsinger anymore since they closed the project. She’s a regular vtuber just like she wanted to be.

>>60139273
One could say that Hololive as a company is now hopeless.

>>60139273
Irystocrats
>She is shit but at least her songs still topped charts
>She is among top 50 singers on Ototoy in 2022
>Her songs are only shit because she has no control over her music
N-no, irystocrats bros. What will be our excuse now if she gets terrible views and her songs no longer sell without Cover's backup?

>>60139273
>hololive promise
>holo pro
TOTAL HOMOBEGGAR DEATH!!!

>>60139974
CARLOS..

>>60139859
She's a regular member now, so that means that she has to pay for herself if she wants an original song. That also means she can work with the producers, get the MV and genres eurobeat she wants. Irystocrats give her tons of money every stream, so the money is not really a problem

cope was a better name

Now is IRyS still under a singer contract or does she get to be a normal vtuber now?

>>60140177
Like other Hololive EN members, irys is lazy as fuck and likely won't be doing anything without Cover telling her to. Irystocrats can say goodbye to new songs

>>60139273
WOW THERE ARE NO MORE V-SINGERS?!

>>60139273
hope... is dead...

>>60140265
Normal vtuber. The vsinger project is dead.

>>60140177
>>60140265
We don't know until she said it loudly. Or wait for membership shit I guess.

>>60140177
There's plenty of rich streamers who are to lazy and passive to make music.

>>60140025
So every EN gen will start with pro now? Looking forward to Hololive -promiscuous-, Hololive -prolapse-, and Hololive -profanity-

>>60140025
Anon, you do realize this puts Irys on the same level of the gen-less limbo tempiss currently sits on, right?

>>60140458
fuck how did I forget Hololive -prostitution-

>>60139982
2/10, apply yourself

>one less remnant of omegatranny
i see no downside

>>60139273
I want to make a Danganronpa reference so bad but I know I shouldn't

>>60140307
>irys
>>60140556
>Irys

>>60140556
i'd say this is kinda moreso like INNK music dissolving and joining "gen 0"

>>60140799
Hoozuki Irys soon!

>>60140669
They start over get to move on from the memory of Sana Irys is an official part of the group and nobody has to explain why Omega from falling down Vespers tower onto 37 Trident wounds to the back

>>60140799
Okay, Hoozuki-san

>>60140799
I love irYs!!!

>>60139743
It exists as Cover probably still holds whatever were the rights for it, but they won't be using it anymore going forward.

>>60140025
>hololive promise
>holo pro
A HoloPro pun... And here I was glad they didnt force another number on the logo

Accordingly, VSinger project “Project:HOPE” has been closed, and IRyS will now officially belong to “hololive English -Promise-” starting from October 8th, 2023 (PDT).

>>60140556
They literally remade Council into Promise to make a gen for her. Tempiss has shit

>>60141011
HoloProtectors

Cover finally realised that an idol unit needs to have an odd number of idols, council was cursed because they were only 4. Even numnered idol groups collapse

Promise = Council + Hope - Sana

we fucking won, sisters.

>>60139273
This is past Ina's fault.

>>60141229
More accurately it's
Promise = (Council - Sana) + Hope

>>60141202
Sankisei,Yonkisei and fucking Gokisei would like to have a word with your dumbass then

>>60141202
>holofantasy
>holoforce
>nepolabo

>>60141292
Unironically

>>60141065
Rip in Piss

>>60141292
Sometimes I genuinely wonder how she feels about the whole Sana situation once the dust settled.

IRyS is definitely too lazy to make new songs but she'll probably still do covers

>>60141882
Like any Korean woman, she has no soul and honors nothing

The monkey paw effect of this is that 'Promise' is going to be the secret word like on Pee Wee's Playhouse.
>A Vtuber says they promise
>Chat goes PROMISE LOL for 30 seconds
>I'll be back I promise
>Chat goes PROMISE LOL for 30 seconds
The secret word lives on in mysterious ways.

>>60141292
qrd?

>>60140307
>Like other Hololive EN members, irys is lazy

>>60142026
Sana was an Ina nepo hire, ended up not having that dog in her (spiritually)

>>60139273
What the fuck even was Project: Hope anyway?

>>60139743
Still exists but it'll be phased out of active use in favor of Promise.

>>60142026
Sana and Ina were childhood friends, Ina got her the job

>>60139273
No hope for Project:HOPE ...

>>60139273
retard here, can someone tell me what's the implication of this? does anything significant change at all

All joking aside. I'm happy for them. i know how Irys has mentioned how it feels lonely to be by herself and how she was really grateful that Council basically adopted her. With the opening that Sana left, this seems like a match made in heaven.

>>60142206
A vsinger project.

>>60142280
nothing really except irys is now part of the gen with everyone else so it's a rebranding and a new start, death to omega influence

>>60142299
Literally this.

Smooths over the mistake of having 1 person gen in a classy way, as expected of hololive.

>>60139273
>every failure is a PROMISE
>a PROMISE to do better

>>60142299
womp womp

>>60140265
She's a regular VTuber, just like Suisei and Azki.

>>60142478
kino...

apology for poor english

when were you when projekt hop dies?

i was sat at home eating fried butter when Trevor ring

‘hop is kill’

‘no’

wait is Azki still part of vsinger?
Im OOtL

>>60142280
No, since Project Hope was already dead for almost a year. The difference is she isn't solo anymore will be included alongside the other Council girls in future events and promotions.

>>60142692
One person unit is never not retarded even in Idol world. If you debut solo you debut solo, don't call it a project or an unit.

What is the difference?

>>60142677
nope. since innk closed, azki was integrated to hololive proper and officially be part of gen 0. That's why she is now using the hololive idol outfit rather than the black one

>>60142280
Irys, as Vsinger, hasn't produced anything worthwhile, so nothing was lost when this project closed.

>>60142280
Any merch or events that separate the girls into "gens" will have Irys grouped together with Promise. They will probably celebrate their anniversary together next year.

>>60140177
She would have to actually stream more than once or twice a month then.

>>60142038
Being needlessly hostile won't change the fact holoen is mostly lazy, it just makes people dislike you more kuck fried penis.

Irys will forever be remembered as a failed project. Poor thing...

>>60139743
>Tokyo, JAPAN — COVER Corporation (Minato-ku, Tokyo, Japan, CEO: Motoaki Tanigo) announced today the new unit “hololive English -Promise-“. Five talents from hololive English, IRyS, Ceres Fauna, Ouro Kronii, Nanashi Mumei, and Hakos Baelz, will join together and begin their activites as members of the new unit.
COPE is now PROMISE

>>60142280
No change to Council girls. IRyS is no longer a VSinger of Project:Hope (folded), so I guess there will be several changes
>No longer has access to her previous Cover's music team (to be fair, she hasn't gotten a new original song for several months). She will have to use her own connections / reach out on her own now
>Cover no longer funds her original songs. She will have to spend her own money if she wants to make one
>No more VSinger promotions / pushes from Cover
>No more extra restriction on making covers compared to other normal members

>>60139273
give me back &IRyS

>>60139273
I have no idea why cover keeps trying Vsingers. It has literally never worked for them ever

>>60142894
>She would have to actually stream more than once or twice a month then.
Heh

>>60142899
Well, so was INNK Suisei and AZKi (before joining Hololive proper) so I don't think she cares much about it

>>60143012
the Vsinger tag has always been a debuff in Hololive so isn't it a good thing for IRyS

>>60140799
Irisu

>>60143122
most of them are singers anyway and some actually put a lot of effort in releasing covers and music on their own. It's hard to tell what makes a vsinger and a normal holo vtuber who sings any different.

i'll continue calling em councilrys. promise soun ds stupid and doesn't roll of the tongue very well for a group name

>>60143294
You put her back where you found her right now before you doom us all.

It's amazing how one black woman can cause so much changes to a generation.

>>60142780
thats good, love her geoguessr streams tho

Its ok, she should learn miko's story to understand this isn't the end.

>>60139273
Sucks they never really went anywhere with this idea. IMO if they tried to scout some Indie Vsingers this actually could have been a really unique subgenre for EN.
Unfortunately as always, Cover takes an interesting idea and doesn't do shit to have it grow.

>>60143963
>first vsinger group with azki and suisei is a complete failure and dissolves
>second vsinger "group" with IRyS is a complete failure and dissolves
>I know, let's make a vsinger group and name it regloss!

>>60144067
Is regloss really a vsinger group? I’m still fucking confused about what they’re suppose to be.

>>60144132
I don't know that anyone is fully aware what it's supposed to be

>>60139974

>>60140344
Not a single person in the west knows how to sing so they had to close it down

>>60142127
cronyism not nepotism, esl-chan.

>>60140381
irys

Irys promised to take my virginity. I hope it comes true soon.

>>60144471
pre-ordered sex

>>60143162
It's absolutely a good thing for IRyS because she's not omega's human vocaloid anymore. The only negative is how she will have to be more proactive regarding her music production but there won't be more random drops of new songs during her breaks or delayed mvs that are glorified powerpoints with the lyrics.

>>60144824
Omega got destroyed today. Council gone too

Surprise, surprise! Cover once again noticed their stupid ordering system doesn't work because their "Vsingers" are nothing special and just do the same shit as all the normal branches. Regloss will meet the same fate.

>>60144919
Regloss has more than 1 person, and they are all human looking so it'll probably work out

>>60144132
>>60144162
We've had like 4 streams trying to explain what regloss is, and I still have no idea other than "supposed to be music focused (perhaps with an aim for more normie audiences), but is defacto just gen 7."

>>60139859
maybe this means the five of them will do a song together

>>60139273
Vsinger will never work if the singer is mediocre

The vsinger stuff was always dumb as shit. You make them a separate thing, but like with azki and irys they're basically just on their own little island. The normal Holos pump out plenty of songs if they choose to, and the vsingers plays games like normal Holos, so what the hell is the point?

>>60139273
>nothing changes

...and so the great experiment of debuting an entire gen as a cohesive unit that would interact and play together ends with a whimper. Brought down, in part, by Chinese gacha money and a busted spine.

Anyone remember the weekly Council Meetings we were supposed to have that they promptly stopped doing after a month?

SWAP NERISSA TO COUNCIL AND ADD IRYS INTO ADVENT

>>60145439
Oh yeah, and that glacial sub growth for a new Hololive gen is definitely proof that they're working. Also the problem is Dev_Is, a weirdly named new branch that effectively is no different than the other 3 Hololive branches. Even if you take into account Kanade being Korean and living in Korea it still doesn't make any sense to create a new branch when the rest of her gen are all Japanese and Cover never said anything about the new branch being international.

>>60145746
Every generation in history does a lot of group collabs shortly after debut and fizzle out and go their separate ways later you fucking retard

>>60145786
>no dorito
Biggest debuff of all. That fag dog and his Aussie friend was correct

>>60145778
>nerissa lusting over little girl wasnt enough
>now we put even more sex pest into the gen

>>60145778
Okay, but Council also has to take Shiori in exchange for Fauna.

>>60145912
Exactly there's only one white girl in that gen as opposed to advent 2

>>60145786
It is odd to have such a "bland" gen when LA+ and the rest of that gen were pretty popular

>>60143012
>Cover no longer funds her original songs. She will have to spend her own money if she wants to make one
Don't they already pay for originals? It's covers that Cover didnt pay for, Project Hope just had a bigger budget for original since she was a vsinger.

>>60146166
That's exactly what that anon said, and she was still under heavy restrictions regarding cover releases. Now she's free to do anything but it'll all come from her pockets.

>>60146053
Laplus was shilled with the force of a thousand suns and look how that turned out for them.

>>60145824
That's why I followed it up with the "Council Meeting" example. They obviously wanted this gen to be more cohesive than others and it just didn't work. I believe Council was made to try and foster an inter-Gen relationship like the JPs had with a mandatory group dynamic built in and try and avoid what Myth did where the girls all just did not seem to want to interact with each other.

I hope the promise is they'll all stream more than twice a month.

>>60146283
I actually don't know. All I know is gen 5's nendoroids and figures got fast tracked so they are either shilling too hard or are actually doing well

>>60146283
Becoming the most popular JP gen since 3? What is this cope that 1 guy in a thread keeps insisting that HoloX is bad
Chloe shits on everyone with her superchat earnings still after more than a year

Can't believe that Cover hired iRys specifically to plug that hole that Sana left.

>>60139273
this also kills council
>yeah council didn't do well as expected

>>60139273
Going from Council to Promise as a brand name feels like going from The Salty Spitoon to Weenie Hut Jr's.

Was Irys' position just another retarded decision by Omega or something, like why would they think that isolating someone like they did with Azaki would be a good idea? Just keep everyone together, its the same shit with Dev_is like why are they not gen 7 lol.

>>60147916
Yeap, he's even credited as the producer on some of her orisongs. Project:Hope was just one of the many retarded decisions made under his leadership.

>>60148004
With failure after failure after controversy because of him, it really boggles the mind how he's still at Cover. Surely he's not that important to the EN branch, maybe its just the usual Jap work ethnic of not firing people but waiting for them to quit. Maybe he's the reason why some of the EN girls are refusing to "work"

>>60144824
>she will have to be more proactive regarding her music production
oh well rip her every doing music again

>>60148226
wait I thought he got fired? Didn't Kiara said that Omega is not with them anymore?

>>60142280
>retard here, can someone tell me what's the implication of this?
RISE will probably never get performed again.

>>60139743
>>60142951
Council still exists since they only announced project hope is shut down.

>>60148226
We don't really know if he's still employed. The character has been effectively retired, any mentions of him in the official HoloEN channel were removed and we know that the position the person behind him had is now occupied by Jap. Unless Cover demoted him to something like a social media manager (some of the tweets in the EN account still kinda sound like him) or in the worst case scenario was transferred to take care of ReGloss and Dev_Is he was probably fired or "asked" to leave.

>>60148358
We've never seen IRyS being proactive with her music production because she was never allowed to. It's likely that we won't see anything new this year considering the current situation with her throat but I would wait until next year before saying she won't do music again which is already a stupid thing in the first place when her rm content was almost exclusively music related.

>>60148492
She seemed to allude to it, and all the other EN members mentioning how "EN management is alot better compared to before" or something. But obviously there must be something else, or Omega is still in the company, going on behind the scenes

>>60148687
I think that other anon is probably right that Omega got moved onto DEV_IS.

>>60148735
Seems kind of weird to transition an EN manager to JP, and what possible signs from Dev_is are that he is possibly involved with them

>>60148798
>what possible signs from Dev_is are that he is possibly involved with them
Dev_Is being a fucking stupid idea

>>60148859
Do you really think that Cover would create an entirely new gen for JP based off the advice/recommendation of someone like Omega? I hate the guy too, but its more likely something that the new investors pushed to appeal to non-vtuber fans as this "brand new totally different branch of Hololive" even tho they are basically just gen 7

>>60148735
there's no fucking way he got promoted to managing JP branch after he completely destroyed the EN branch.

>>60146371
Ironically they did have a cohesive gen, they just fucked up by debuting one member separately and replacing her with a wet blanket

>>60147708
On the other hand, Promise is stronger than ever

>>60141011
HoloProstate

>>60149008
I think the only reason why Irys turned out ok is because she was able to rise the pre-Council hype as people really wanted a 2nd EN gen, if she debuted after Council then her numbers would look way lower. Still so fuckin retarded tho that Cover thought to try what they did with Azaki and Suisei for EN

>>60149113
IRyS debuted with a tragically ugly model, she earned her audience entirely on her own merit

>>60149225
this is some cope, if she did not debut before Council then she would've been fucked. Even if she debuted with her current look it wouldn't have mattered

>>60145600
More like vsinger will never work if they don't actually do majority music stuff and get actually push and help from the company to be a vsinger. Just look at how they treated suisei in the early days

>>60149282
Honestly was one of the most retarded things Cover did "lets completely isolate this member to focus on singing, yet not actually help her with that." Cover doesn't cover any expenses, so for girls like Irys they probably had to upfront any costs for every music related thing. Cover might as well just be a literal start-up company, they'll give people that initial boost but they are essentially on their own after that

>>60142014
>secret word
Just the use of that phrase played that tard scream he used to do in my head like it was yesterday.

>>60143012
>all these changes to IRyS's activities implied a contract reneg has happened
so why did Cover agreed to IRyS, while they didn't to Magni and Vesper, so they had no choice but to graduate?

>>60140025
>/cope/ thread want to call themselves /holopro/
Its working

>>60139743
Yeah it does but it was always weird to leave irys out of the rest and since councilrys was pretty much established anyway they simply made it official. It's going to be easier for activities and announcements instead of having to go "and irys!" every single time.
Also it's collegial, prevents members from feeling left out.

>>60149484
IRyS is one of the highest earning EN members, she's 10x more valuable to Cover than the entirety of Tempiss combined
Besides, ending the Vsinger part of her contract saves them money since they don't have to fund her music anymore

>>60149484
Magni and Vesper were asking for a raise, IRyS was accepting a pay cut.

>>60149484
If and only if the contract rrat regarding dumb and dumber is right (which I don't believe in the slightest after Vesper was Yezhov'd from that mv) then you only need to compare seniority and overall success to understand why IRyS renegotiation worked out and those two homos failed.

>>60149395
Well that's the thing. It doesn't actually work if cover doesn't actually support and cultivate a vsinger. You can't just debut a vtuber, classify her as a vsinger and then fuck off and hope she'll do everything herself. Which is what suisei ended up having to do

>>60149647
Cover basically doing 4D chess, purposefully make bad decision initially only to walk back on it later to make it seem like an improvement. Literally what games do these days by holding back content or purposefully not fixing issues, only to later release them to make it seem like "oh wow they actually care"

>>60139273
>Kills your entire singer branch because you wouldn't sign on her friend as well

>>60149678
That's basically Cover's mentality tho "here we'll give you a platform to start, now send it to the moon." Probably why so many of the girls get burned out, cause its like Cover doesn't actually do or help them with anything except for that initial boost and then taking a cut of their income thereafter.

>>60149719
There are zero scenarios where Enna would ever win the Vsinger job over IRyS, her resume is absolutely stacked

>>60149829
Ignore the ennacuck. He's too busy deflecting while his oshi is being spiroasted by a wigger and an Aussie sex pest.

>>60149829
>Gets interviewed first and second round, turns down the offered position because Millie wouldn't be in the branch with her
>IRyS is the runner up and fails spectacularly
Honestly would have been better if they just rebranded Mori as the VSinger, moreso a title rather than a position

>>60142299
Yeah, same. She's really been part of Council for over a year now, this is just making it official.

>>60148654
>We've never seen IRyS being proactive with her music production because she was never allowed to
She is never proactive about anything really.

Now if fuwa or moco graduates. Who can replace the other twin?

>>60149484
Because it depends what you ask for, dumb-dumb.
>hey, I'd like to have a a 0.7% raise
>HAY, I DEMAND TO HAVE A PALACE AS MY OFFICE SPACE, A 500% RAISE AND FOR YOU TO PERSONALLY SUCK MY COCK EVERY MORNING OR IM OUT

>>60149949
This isn't the writing general, ennacuck.

>>60140177
>Irystocrats give her tons of money every stream
How about they give her music some listens and views along with that?

>>60139273
rip

>>60141292
Honestly, I'm still glad that Sana had her time in the company, even if it wasn't the best one. Ina was ready to sacrifice her work with Chinese companies only to stay in Hololive, which isn't something Sana was ready to do.
Crying on spilled milk is useless now, we even have a new generation out, things have happened and that's not something we'll ever be able to change. Sana's last month was one of the best periods of holoEN, and it was the last one before some of the worst months the branch has ever seen, so I'll never hold a real grudge against her.

>>60149484
What probably happened is that Omega and his cronies thought that as well as holos were doing with their songs, they would do way better if a 'professional' team was fully in charge of music conceptualization, planning and production. This would also mean addressing the biggest weakness of the holo model from a corporate perspective - the fact that so much revenue depends on and goes to one person.
They wanted more of that cut. So their team decided to invest more initially, went after the big guns like Tom Hack, Elements Garden and Arte Refact and got them to make songs for IryS.

The thing they didn't bank on is that it turns out that the talents ARE actually more important than just being pretty figureheads. Behind all the wheedling sycophantic comments, most people surprisingly aren't that stupid and won't just eat up music as 'the best thing ever' just because it appears to come from their oshi. They can sense whether it actually fits with her stream personality or not, and stuff that is jarring and disingenuous just turns them off. Even worse, the only people they could get to write her English songs were ESL Japanese.

It doesn't help that everyone can see that the most basic clerical shit is always going wrong because of their incompetence. IryS constantly having to say she doesn't know when X song will be dropping only for a preview to suddenly appear on her channel the next day, releasing whole albums on streaming services suddenly without MVs and in full kanji that her English listeners can't read or even type in, not even telling her what the English name of a song is supposed to be, so she translates it herself and then when it's released it's different.

Who knows why the communication was so bad, but likely they felt like they 'owned' the music production and release process and IryS was just the singer that didn't really need to be kept in the loop. In fact, it makes their narrative even better if it succeeds regardless - 'The talent's opinions, personality, or self-promotion isn't important. Producing good music with a good storyline is what's important.' Except they massively overestimated their own abilities and it flopped hard.

Promise isn’t a good name. Council is far better. I don’t see why they couldn’t just call her an official member.

>>60150339
I think this is an acknowledgment that her music kinda sucks, and nobody cares about it - least of all IRyS herself. She often moaned about how her songs hurt her voice and were hard to sing
.

>>60141011
Promi2e

>>60150588
She has some bangers, but it's probably 50/50 at best on good vs meh.

>>60149719
lmao not when you know that Enna is the one that didnt get in Holo unlike her friend. Her last stream as Shannon proved that

>>60150588
whoever wrote her music did some crazy shit, not in a good way either. it was like they were trying to speed run throat problems

>>60151255
It's sort of like beginning orchestral composers writing long sweeping runs with lots of jumps that sound amazing in their DAWs but which are practically impossible to pull off without mistakes if you try to play it as an actual score

Cover seriously need to stop doing this retarded shit.
These single debut disasters have never worked out well.
Stop fucking doing it. Stop gimping the talents so hard.
And stop using that dumb vsinger bullshit as well. ALL OF THEM SING. Slapping vsinger on someone is basically shitting on the entire company, all that effort that has been put in over the years.
>n-no, this one is different because she is a professional
>oh I see. I guess all that vocal training is for nothing then... thanks manager-san...
It's fucking awful and I can absolutely tell you for a fact that it negatively impacts the rest of them on some level whenever singing comes up around groups of people.
People don't like their talent being compared to others as is

>>60142280
Nothing. We've known Hope has been dead for at least half a year now, probably longer, since the management shake up between the two Tempus waves. This is just a rebranding probably for internal market research reasons we don't fully get

>>60150566
I think Cover's trying to get Omega's stink off of everything. This involves renaming Council.

>>60139982
Everything got better for her.
She has a much better body. She has a kimono. She gets more time to relax. She doesnt have to record as much.
Results: no streams, no music, numbers going down, male collabs, lies

>Omegathis
>Japthat
I thought /vt/ is above conspiracy boogeyman holy shit.
Inb4 seetheee

>>60139273
Why do they keep opening vsinger branches if they have no intention of actually keeping them?

>>60139859
I hope lol

>>60152056
>Why do they keep opening vsinger branches if they have no intention of actually keeping them?
Do you know, the definition of insanity?

>>60139273
No more tears, no more boys, no more unikeks, no more sisters - only PROMISE now....

Why bother with the rename, why not just put IRyS into Council and just leave it as Council? It's not the first time a Holo has been put into a preexisted group.

>>60144324
But Irys is Japanese, anon...

So holo is dropping the vsinger concept. Makes sense since all their talents are supposed to be idols anyway

>>60149064
how? they just added another cockchaser tilting the 2/2 balance in favor of the cockchasers. not to mention the goblina barely streams too.

>>60139743
It probably still exists for the sake of doing council anniversary streams.

>>60146283
Were they supposed to hypnotize her into not being retarded and shooting herself in the foot?

>>60149261
>this is cope!
>proceeds to cope
ennakek really lost his marbles huh

>>60139273
do we add Hope to the list?

ALL HOPE IS LOST

Gonna be real awkward when someone from "promise" graduates
glad that vsinging is dead in EN at least, they should all be commended for their idol efforts

>>60150535
You have no proof, but I will immediately believe you

>>60139273
Now what do you do with Tempus?

>>60153375
The memes will be glorious

I'll never understand why Cover keeps trying to do things other than just normal idol generations. It literally never works. People shit on IRyS for being a flop, but she was by far the most successful project outside the normal idol generation model. When will they learn to build up what they're finding success with, and what their audience wants, instead of trying to branch out into new audiences that don't exist?

>>60153250
Imagine still shitting on Mori in 2023, same with Kiara. With Ina on the way out and Gura, Ame fucking off forever you clearly hating on the wrong woman, Anon.
Its still hard to watch Mori and Kiara but those two are the only ones left giving a fuck so get your shitposting right or take it to kurosanji...or are you perhaps a...dare i say it, nijinig???

>>60154686
>People shit on IRyS for being a flop, but she was by far the most successful
kek I almost believe this

The COUNCIL has agreed. HOPE in the hololive project and the future of Cover corp is gone.
I will PROMISE to never give them a single one of my hard earned dollars ever again.

>>60155634
fuck you dumbass I'll follow her to her grave and shit on it

>>60156200
Thats just a deadbeat with extra steps?

>>60139273
Ктo тaкaя HOPE и ктo eё yбил

Council is dead too. Cover doesn't even own the trademark anymore.

https://www.trademarkia.com/hololive-council-97317514

I think Project Hope would work if instead going into an Idol-Anime direction, they went full into normal pop or even experimenting with what kids think is cool nowadays with the Idol-Anime edge. I mean, shitposting aside, that work extremely well for Kiara in the long term, most of her more K-pop or pop songs are going well while her idol-anime songs are just there.

if you ask me as a EN audience what i want, the less idol-anime shit i get, the better, not because i don't like, is more than i have JP already covering that area.

>>60156562
>be small vtuber corpo starting out
>claim Council
>get click/searches from people that dont know holo council isnt a thing anymore
>profit
Any girls here who want to be in my new agency? I have big business plans!

Come council let's talk about your salary

>>60151520
Sure all of them sing, but I still wouldn't call Ame or Fauna "singers" even though they sing sometimes.
It was a stupid grey area though

>>60145786
I'm not going to comment on the quality of Devis's branding or marketing, but generally speaking its not a terrible idea to try and appeal to different audiences.
How the group performs compared to other holos/tubers is not the only thing to consider if they are a success or not. Even if it turns out to be a certifiable failure trying to control as many niches of the tuber watching audience is not automatically a bad idea.

>>60153040
Ideally, yes. Barring that, move the effort wasted on her on the talents that actually want to be there.

>>60157533
True but there's no need to create a completely different brand with questionable marketing and lack of real explanation to target different audiences, that's the job of the character designs and the personalities of the girls they hired.

>Council gets a new, less fucking gay and wack name
Good
>Irys is now an official part of the group without awkwardly being tacked on
Good
>The girls will now generally share the same managers so Irys' lone manager cannot go out of their way to shit on her life at every opportunity
Good
>Cover has basically deleted Sana from existence with the formation of this new group
Good and based.

All good things, thank fuck.

>>60139273
Holy shit, that means all of the retarded management that fucked with it are gone too.
She lucked out on that one

>>60150535
Yeah, I put zero blame on IRyS for her lack of musical success because those in charge of Project: Hope were so incompetent that they basically set her up to fail.

>>60143829
>Its ok, she should learn miko's story to understand this isn't the end.
IRyS was probably happy for this change since she seemed to enjoy the streaming side of the job a hell of a lot more than the 'Project: Hope' side of it.

>>60152707
Anon what do you think Idols usually do?

>>60139273
IRyS sucks, her voice is ugly.

>>60141006

Did they really cancel the project because of low numbers?

Are they going to do the same to ReGloss as well?

>>60164545
They nuked it because it was pointless, overly restricting and used to be managed by Omega with her last orisong being released in November of last year, a month before Jap took his place.

>>60155634
Kiara did nothing wrong.
Mori did everything wrong.

>>60144428
Anon, you are outing yourself as an absolute ESL. all cronyism is nepotism, granting favors to friends, but not all nepotism is cronyism, granting favors to friends that aren't qualified to receive them.

>>60141301
this is the same, retard

>>60156562
>>60160703

https://www.trademarkia.com/hololive-council-97975599
They are maintaining this one

>>60150512
>Crying on spilled milk
Stupid ESL bitch

>>60139273
Promises sounds gay af councilrys is more catchy. What do these bitches promise anyway they can barely stream.

>>60139928
>inb4 promIrys

>>60139273
All 6 should have been in the same gen from the start

>Kronii is infamous for breaking promises
>she hasn't been interested in streaming these past few months
>her new unit is called Promise
She will break it by graduating

>>60139273
Hope was roped

>>60139273
Even now there is hope f- oh, wait, it says there is NO hope...

>>60139273
>trying to relabel on the fly to make up for breaking their silly lore by losing sana
Almost as silly as expecting a gen to do a specific group activity weekly in service to a plot you could never do anything with
Or expecting en's gens to not take note of the whole senpai/kouhai dynamic everyone else already used to flavor their routines with other gens
Maybe in a year someone will actually use this label.

>>60140458
Take your meds

>>60140458
personally im looking forward to hololive pro-life

>>60142127
"nepotism" would imply ina has power to affect the hiring process, faggot. Knowing eachother does not automatically make getting a job at the same company nepotism. You never say this shit about hologamers, despite even when that was founded fubuki having vastly more clout than ina has even now.
Fuck off and die

>>60144824
>he still obsesses over a management account that's been dead for a year at least
Rent-free

>>60167948
are you saying it was a coincidence?

>>60139624
>>60139923
>>60140925
Sana is still part of the Logo
she is not erased

this makes Council + Irys more marketable than a single Unit like Project: Hope who always tags along with a Gen they are no official part of and some selfmade/joke name like COuncilRys is shit for marketing
Now they can just throe "PROMISE" on the screen when showing the promos of the next concert instead of some weird mix of names

But Sana is eternal and will still be considered part of this unit

>>60168045
The recruiter probably thought Sana would turn out like Ina, since Ina turned out fine despite her lack of streaming experience.

>>60170058
No, Sana is dead and will never return. This is a great way to make sure that sanalites can't insert themselves into the conversations when we're talking about current talents.
>so anyway, Promise is looking to-
>HEY GUYS, DOES ANYONE ELSE MISS SANA AROUND HERE??? BREAD xD SANANANANANANAAAA
>Sir, this is the Promise thread. If you want to discuss Sana, /cope/ is three blocks down

>>60170363
you really think that would deter Sanalites from bringing up Sana?

Also: Sana is in the Logo, she is intentionally part of this group

>>60150512
>. Ina was ready to sacrifice her work with Chinese companies only to stay in Hololive,
except for that time she took a 3 month break

>>60170556
Well, at least now everyone can rightfully report you for being off-topic.
Also, the logo is pure conjecture and cope. Sana is officially not part of the Promise unit, per Cover's official website.

>>60170058
i still refuse to believe that there are people who miss sana

What? I always tought they were all from the same gen.

>>60139273
I hate most vsingers because they sing overproduced popsongs in a language I can't understand, or rap.
I've saved more Gura karaoke songs than songs from every other vtuber combined, I hope some day she produces some albums and they're something soulfull like bluegrass instead of godawful modern pop.

Does this mean Council has been gassed?