/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>60094853
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>60094853
I have no idea what is going on and I may not want to know.

I swear motherfuckers /here/ just post bait without even checking lol

What now?

Before you get carried away remember our lord and saviour

>>60094891
Just a cheeky KING gold for a threepeat

Ok but shitting on Ollie isn’t a nijikek tradition it’s a Holochad one.

Ollie's new job after graduating

>>60094904
>without checking
they checked global

HOLOKEKS STATUS?

>>60094904
wasn't Sana the first one for that reason?

did ollie realize she was the reason she became unpopular over the years?

Koyo-chan... you are addicted...

https://twitter.com/kureijiollie/status/1710973120545505531
https://twitter.com/kureijiollie/status/1710973120545505531
https://twitter.com/kureijiollie/status/1710973120545505531

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

>>60094722
it does plays a role since YouTube still combines regular vod views and shorts views as one metric which then Cover can use to negotiate sponsorship deals.
It's a blatant move by YT to push shorts to creators, but it is what it is.

>>60094956
holy shit i want to fuck reine

>>60094956
>Holoro on Reine's Hologra
>it's a positive post

Okay why are you shocked anon?

Sorry Koyori, 20k is for grown up sexy koyotes!

>>60094924
She already made at least $150k during her entire career, I'm pretty sure that's enough to live comfortably for the rest of your lifetime in Indonesia

>>60094942
Winning
>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
195x: Hololive
66x: Nijisanji
10x: Indie
5x: VSPO
4x: Neo Porte

Ollie is like a Niji who lost her way into Hololive

Flare sound so bored playing Aka Manto jesus christ

>>60094919
>You want to fuck King now

>>60095011
>rest of your lifetime
no it's not retardo. You need at least $500k to be financial independent here.

>>60094674
She has done things to try to achieve it. She just did not understand that the average Holo audience is not interested in watching Homos and outsiders especially when it is forced fed to them. You can only force feed that many times before people stop tolerating and leave. People just wanted someone who streams and interacts with other Holomem. Do it enough and you get your Kaela and Koyori who may not be breakout stars but will remain in the minds of the average viewer.

>>60094910
Demi you need to supacha her for condom supa

>>60094853
Shaka's and every Japanese eceleb onahole...
I kneel to the true king willing to whore himself to get numbers

>>60095008
LMAO JOSHUKEKS YOUR DICKS WERE EDGING

/#/ is inclining
JWU what did Ollie do to create this seethe

>>60095051
ollie doesn't really like the status quo in hololive, do this for 3 years, get holofans to watch you etc and you'd live comfortably. A pay that exceeds a doctor's salary in ID. If she leaves, she'll need to find a 9-5 job after her holofunds dries out.

Cover will let you graduate at any time you want if your numbers are so fucking low ..... well just like Ollie
But they will not let you go easily if you are too big like First Army or mascot like Gura until the found the replacement ( but i think they will never found the second one like them lol )

>>60095021
More like a Vshojo. Hey maybe they let her in after she graduates too

>>60095068
No thanks

>>60095123
>But they will not let you go easily
What exactly do you think they can or would do to stop them if they were set on leaving

Get out

oh, he's still working on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpRwsAKjWyM

>>60095151
the contract they sign

>>60094956
JESAS FUCKING FUCK. WHY IS REINE SO SEX ???
>inb4 janny with the nsfw bullshit

>>60095051
>”I love Hololive”
>”I wanna change it”
Ollie is just retarded. There is a known project that is succeeding and she wants to change it just to fit their narrative. Same shit a go woke go broke shit, they think they know better

>>60095151
>until they found the replacement

SNOT status?

>>60095071
Shaka was leeching me, holo friend. I made this server worth watching

>>60095213
>T

>>60094969
>which then Cover can use to negotiate sponsorship deals.
I would definitely agree with you if you were talking about Aki (let's say) or Mel but, answer truthfully
>does it look now or ever looked like Cover had any trouble getting sponsorship deals for Laplus or any of the HoloX girls?
They were arguably the first gen in the post
>Nissin Curry Meshi
Holo, one that Cover had companies approach them for deals instead of Yagoo having to knock on doors and try to secure some deals.
That and Laplus, in particular, was always meant to be the star of that gen, the centerpiece, the locomotive. She would never have any trouble securing the number needed to get any sponsorship she wanted.

The truth is simple
1) Laplus, by her own admission, does not like live streaming
2) Laplus very likely gave her resignation notice when she blew that full holoX 3D live, and Cover haggled with her different conditions to get her to stay
Those conditions likely involved
>not needing to live stream on youtube outside of collabs and official commitments, can do it on Twitch on a more relaxed manner
which she clearly took.

I say she could upload ZERO shorts, continue streaming on Twitch and that would change nothing to her.

I am disappointed that FWMC didnt hit 20k.

Grim

>>60095213
>N
>T

>>60095008
19,999 HOLY SHIT THE NUMBERINOS

>>60095123
/#/ acts like Ollie is some 2view she’s not even close to the worst performing ID. She’s behind ID3 and Moona who’s always been ahead of.

>>60094956
https://twitter.com/pavoliareine/status/1703589991266337096
https://twitter.com/pavoliareine/status/1703589991266337096
God bless hologra

how hard is it for cover to find people who likes hololive? Just do 20 interview questions about Hololive. Niji looks at subs, Hololive looks at their past experiences and talents but it's kinda stupid for them to overlook if they actually like hololive or not where culture actually matters

>>60095191
why pochimama has a ribs fetish?

>>60095271

>>60095051
>She just did not understand
She did, she said she wanted to change it. And she acted on that thought and REALLY tried to change it

>>60095237
overlap hell puresu andastando, fauna didn't raid

>>60095213
It's just NO now.

>>60095305
>Fauna

>>60095300
We dont need another Nerissa.

Why do we suddenly care about Ollie?

Holo and niji members graduate
Vshojo belike :

>>60095237
being too japanese and flip flopping between EN and JP not to mention has barely anything EN relatable to say means you're doomed to be a shitter like IRyS and FWMC is slowly going to be IRyS 2.0

>>60095330

>>60095087
Nothing
I mean, there's not much to shitpost on Hololive atm, and Suisei baits only go so far, especially when no respected Hoshiyomi would be caught dead browsing this shithole

>HOLOLIVE BOARD
>HOLOLIVE THREAD

>>60095123
Just graduate all ID while they're at it, it's a worthless market anyway

DISCUSS

>>60095340
Nothing to shitpost about so time looping Ollie actually hates hololive

>>60095344
the cumdumpster of vtubing industry

>>60095276
The only person she's definitively ahead of these days is Iofi.

>>60095352
Explain the rest of advent then.

>>60095398
ARK too stronk even Aki is inclining

>>60095276
>>60095414
>w-we love Ollie
Pathetic

was reading the bait thread,
which one of Advent has >potential< to replace CURRENT Gura?

>>60095344
do vshoujo even want ollie?

>>60095398
ARKtism I kneel

>>60095398
Marine really moving quickly to reach Kizuna's number, isn't she?

>>60095398
>Kneel to the VCR chads
>Kneel to the Tiktok kings
>Kneel to the lolicon GODs

>>60095300
What DO you even like about Hololive as a creator?

>>60095396
This but EN.

>>60095087
More like people are just frustrated with how she was so stubborn on all the shit that was killing her numbers only to instantly throw in the towel when it became clear that her doubters were right, instead of picking up the pieces and streaming things viewers actually want to watch
Like yeah, you won't be the queen of ID like you were back in your heyday but it's not the end of the world

>>60029063

>Ui : 26M
>Marine : 19M
>Gura : 2.7M
>Micomet : 1.7M
>Marine : 1.3M

>>60095227
I wonder if any of the girls think it's unfair laplus gets everything handed to her while doing the least amount of work.
Cover has the whole everyone gets a slice of the pie thing going on, but I would personally not be able to help not feeling annoyed be a coworker getting a pie while actively not giving a shit. Why should I bother trying beyond the minimum? Why should they get to coast on my efforts?

Ollie overstayed her welcome tbdesu

>>60095464
>she from Holo
Yes we want her

>>60095487
Nice try sister

>>60095344
Is Vshitshow the US Major League soccer of the Vtubing world ?

>SC: Please don't leave
>I will eventually leave, just not now, not tomorrow, not next week, not next month, not next year but eventually

Okay, you can all calm down now, your favorite ID isn't leaving yet.

>>60095460
None. Even a 14k+ guaranteed stream is out of reach for all of them, and all of the western vtuber world.
Wherever Gura's audience comes, it is not from the HoloEN box and it is very likely to come from the general north american live streaming watcher.

>>60095214
Why are you lying Nijifriend we've always kneel to King for his willingness to whore himself, isn' his most watched stream the one with that male idol? At least top 3 still.
Our biggest eceleb whore our King o7

>>60095458
This but unironically

>>60095227
Even the dumbest marketers would think twice before spending sponsorships on a channel with no active content anon, the shorts pushes her up to the 8th most viewed (as in playbacks) holo member that all also does their share of vods+streams+shorts in the last month.
And it's not just a matter of getting the deal, by having higher numbers you can get more out of that deal by negotiating its terms and costs. Holox with 10M total views channel will earn less in sponsorship deals than Holox with 100M total views channel even if they pulled the same number of deals.

>>60094947
No. Sana graduated because she loves drawing and prefer her artist job over streaming.

>>60095501
ShillX privilege.

>>60095487
based

>>60095414
But she does tho? Wtf would you want to change something you love?
>le I love you Senpai cringe to every single Holo without fail
Does she even watch them? She literally does this to everyone like she has nothing else

>>60095501
>I wonder if any of the girls think it's unfair Gura gets everything handed to her while doing the least amount of work.
Same question
Same answer
They really don't give a shit

>>60094693
Short views are worthless. 1k vod views are $5-10, 1k short views are $0.05 if you are lucky. And the only ones that do well in her channel are the higher quality 3D shorts, which after looking at her most recent shorts, you can see it's not sustainable. Watame used to get 1-2M with giriwaru shorts easily until she switched to VODs because it was just not worth it.
Shorts without something to promote are worthless, all that is left for shorts is to get tens of millions of views and translate those vieqs into subs. But her sub count is stuck

>>60095553
And the nijikek reveals himself just like that

Wait Ollie is thinking of leaving Hololive ? What the fuck did I miss and who should I be thanking for this ???

>>60095547
she's a 10k floor.

>>60094956
The indonesian Hologra episodes are the fucking worst. When they start going al rakachaba googa krok it makes me want to close the video.
They barely even speak that language on their streams

>>60095398
Tiktok buzz > wide server orgies

i dont hate ollie enough to care. when is mori graduating?

>>60095625
She's just doomposting and thinking of it happening eventually, nothing happening in the near future

>>60095458
>Ollie’s /#/ are soooo bad
>No they aren’t
>you’re not supposed to call out for being wrong
We have a fanfic thread go write your fiction in there mongoloid

>>60095625
If only...

>>60095237
Streaming during JP hours in English because management would not let them have more than 1 stream in Japanese only.

>>60095700
>Ollie's numbers arent bad
Stop being a brain dead retard

>>60095501
>unfair
For the most part the revenue of the girls matches their output.
>Why should I bother trying beyond the minimum?
When you work in an environment where your own revenue is proportional to your own output (in ANY area of expertise) you don't really give a fuck about the rest of the group.
Koyori wouldn't make any significant more money or any less money if Laplus worked harder so, for people like her, it is indifferent.
Actually, each opportunity Laplus leaves on the table is taken by one of the other girls so I say they're not moping about it.

>>60095398
MUKIROZE CHAD MEASURING UP TO MILLIONS SPENT ON MUSIC WITH HER ARK AUTISM

I have no idea if this new members stream rrat is true, but Ollie was talking about graduation the other day on Minecraft as I saw a clip title when browsing. Will dig it up in a bit if anyone gives a shit

>>60095695
Why would Mori of all people graduate now? If I was going to put a list of holos I could see leaving within a year or two she wouldn't even be up for consideration.

>>60095604
You can disagree with me, but Gura arguably put in some work to make the EN branch popular beyond expectations.
Laplus came in while her branch was going strong and didn't contribute anything to reinforce or grow hololive.

>>60095501
if you're talking about main channel appearances, the she's just happened to be the first ones to respond to their @talents discord posts.
Most likely because most holos rather stream at home than showing up on the studio and records for the day, and laplus prefers exactly the opposite of that.

>>60095604
>La+
Who ?
>Gura
The most popular vtuber in the world
That's the different anon

>>60095333
So you want more Nerissas?

>>60095398
Unicorns lost.

>>60095014
Does KING defeat rest of nijisanji?

>>60095709
Koyori reclined...

>>60095545
someone post the Magi screenshot of him talking about his fans getting a magmite tatoo

>Tanigo:
>I would like to grow into a virtual talent group that is extremely popular in Japan and China, and become a VTuber group that can fill large halls like Budokan in Japan and Mercedes Benz Arena in China.

>For example, just like Bushiroad and others are creating popular IP through television and existing media, we are creating new talents and IP on the Internet. We want to create a talent group and IP that can rival ``Love Live!'' from the Internet.

So a month in, what was the point of DEV_IS again?

This board is honestly the reason for ollie decline. The board was behind yubi incident that only stop when her face was leaked, to people attacking her collab partners causing them to leave her. Just a couple of months ago people trashing her apex cup when she used her wish on the project in order to get it going in the first place. I'm not even a big fan of ollie but to see her dream event since debut get trashed sucks.

>>60095744
Read the context you absolute troglodyte

>>60095780
>Gura arguably put in some work to make the EN branch popular beyond expectations
God /vt/ are the most brain rotted people against Gura.
ARGUABLY? Really? That's what the branch's top talent did, someone who streamed just fine for years? "Arguably made them popular"? Then what the fuck did Ina, Ame and Kiara do?

>>60095832
>Love live
that series is fucking dead

>>60095769
>Talks about graduation in public stream
>No one cares enough to talk or clip about it
Funny if true

Posted without context. Behold a Greyfag .

https://www.onecareer.jp/articles/3159

An interview(Japanese) with Yagoo alongside Cover’s head of Overseas Business, Max Sung Yoon Kim (according to GoogleTL) a Korean national who used to work for an unspecified JP Video Game publisher.
They reiterate that Metaverse is their future focus, comparing VTubing being more similar to ongoing service game like Genshin vs traditional seasonal nature of anime. They consider Vtubing as interactive anime and that direct interaction is the main appeal.
Youtube focusing more on short(er) form content is bad for their advertisement view revenue but their revenue from fans engagement (Superchat, Membership) is stable highlighting their need to focus on fan engagement.
They still continuing expanding into their oversea operation with SEA and NA (and the rest of East Asia) being the big focus. East Asia is the easiest thanks to Japanese Media penetration and close geographic proximity making business easier to do. In term of fan growth,
SEA has the biggest potential thanks to it large young (weeb) population. NA is considered the hardest of the three due to VTuber being a obscure niche in an already niche market of anime albeit the current fans are more then willing to spend on merch. This meant that the media mix strategy that being employed for Japan won’t work in NA.
Connect the world sold out their 6000 capacity venue ticket with a 15k online audience.
The rest is basically a recruitment ad with a section where they basically said: “Hey instead of working for any old game/anime company with a stable IP that you can’t control how about working for us to challenge yourself and become the next culture ambassador/exporter”.

>>60095517
It's always so crazy to me how much ahead of NijiJP HoloEN is on these
I always underestimate how many of those NijiJPs are just complete shitters

>>60095868
>Just a couple of months ago people trashing her apex cup when she used her wish on the project in order to get it going in the first place
OH gee I wonder why

>>60095789
Lolicons mog unikeks any day

>>60095501
They don't get paid equally, they earn what they generate. If lap is happy with pissing away her golden ticket for valo spam on twitch with e-celebs, I doubt the other holo contracts give a shit about her as long as they grind and earn their own money

https://twitter.com/7uta_sub/status/1711048488069595583
>You have the purity of a girl who would never cheat on her husband
My pure concubine wife...

>>60095557
>Even the dumbest marketers would think twice before spending sponsorships on a channel with no active content anon
I agree and that goes without saying. My point is not
>present laplus vs. laplus that gave up
but
>present laplus vs. laplus that did what she was hired to do
which would have her outranking Koyori in every metric (except number of streams) EFFORTLESSLY.

But I say even the dumbest marketeer wouldn't think twice before asking to see a sample of the most viewed videos in the period in question for the channel to decide if the audience is a fit for their product.
>SUGOI! 10M VOD Views this month!
>We want to do a sponsored live stream, can you show the most viewed live streams in the period for us to decide if the audience is the correct one for our segment?

>>60095777
The only time that I could have ever seen Mori leaving was that short period inbetween the Condom Money for Conner arc and the UMG deal.
She seemed very disillusioned at that point and I think if that deal hadn't have happened she may have been gone by now.

>>60095868
Gee. If she didn't try to drag Holos in with Homos and instead do an entirely outsider based event, she may have succeeded without as much backlash

>>60095618
Watame is still regularly posting shorts anon, it may not justify the cost of a giriwaru production, but it has its results otherwise she wouldn't continue

>>60095868
>This board is honestly the reason for ollie decline
Oh fuck off
You shit blame /#/ for everything
>my numbers suck, it's /#/ fault
>my channel are dying, it's /#/ fault
>my oshi is graduate, it's /#/ fault
>Im suck and it's /#/ fault

>>60095904
idolm@ster is better anyway

>>60095832
how the fuck are homos supposed to do that

>>60095769
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16dFHn9AOh0&pp=ygURb2xsaWUgZ3JhZHVhdGlvbiA%3D&themeRefresh
Mobile fagging so shitty link probably, but she talks about preparing her viewers for inevitable graduation here and how no good thing lasts forever.
Who knows what she said in the supposed members stream to add to this, but we can only hope

>>60095398
All those people subbing to Aki, just to never watch a single stream from her after VCR ends.
It's the EN clip arc from 2020 all over again.

>>60095928
Still won't save holoID

>>60095832
>We want to create a talent group and IP that can rival ``Love Live!'' from the Internet.
Unless you kick homocollabers like Fubuki, Towa, Matsuri, and Lapu, you can kiss that dream goodbye Yagoo

>>60096076
Nijiseethe

>>60095789
I see Loli, I bot her subs. Simple as

>>60096090
Still find it funny the nijiseethe poster was always a SEA

>>60096036
Her shorts are just PVs for her habanai videos and mvs, she stopped posting giriwaru in short format

>>60096050
Holy ESL
Not wrong though

>>60095868
Unironically, have better dreams

>>60095898
Anon, Gura's existence only amounts to her activity in the last 1-2 years.
Mori only in her first 1-2 years.
Got in memorized?

>>60095868
Had she handled her Wish Tournament thing like a normal fucking Holomember, without trying to trick some of the girls into collabing with the Stars for the 2ND FUCKING TIME, then nobody would have been upset.
It's her own fault that she can't get this concept through her thick brown skull.

>>60096121
what's the matter, feeling called out?

>>60096148
I find it funny, so not really

>>60096121
why do nijifags hate SEA so much?

>>60095868
>try to change hololive
>kill her own channel instead
a story as old as time

>>60095832
If he want to rival LL he should stop trying to force homos into the mix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LTvNOrF4ts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LTvNOrF4ts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LTvNOrF4ts

>>60096076
Don't worry I'm putting in the call to save HoloID right now.

>>60095545
>the supposed membership graduation rrat comes from her SC reading
who's responsible of the bait?

>>60095505
>2021
?????????????????????????????????
What ollie did today to get shit on???

>>60096065
Homos are supposed to try to be online Jonny's (the sexual assaults part not included)

>>60096215
not graduating

[News]
Aki FINALLY caught a Tropeonagthus.
It took at least 3 deaths for this to happen

I thought holo/niji tribalism on here was bad with people falseflagging in different groups. But twitter is shittier with the ongoing shit that's happening in Palestine. Somehow people are memory-holing the fact that the land wasn't israel's to begin with.

>>60095928
>They reiterate that Metaverse is their future focus, comparing VTubing being more similar to ongoing service game like Genshin vs traditional seasonal nature of anime
Genshin is not mentioned at all in the artlcle

Actually, the translation would be the OPPOSITE of that
>We will continue to deliver high-quality content to a large number of fans through VTuber's media mix development and licensing business.
>On the other hand, we plan to release Metaverse in 2024, a project that is not being undertaken by other companies in our industry.
>As part of the Metaverse project "HoloEarth" we are developing a sandbox game that allows players to freely act in a virtual space.
A sandbox game
>Normally, we would have asked an outside production company to proceed with the project, but we have created an in-house development team and are aiming for an unprecedented Metaverse by leveraging our content development capabilities.
>We will provide customers with new experiences never seen before, such as holding virtual events on the Metaverse and allowing fans to interact with each other.
Sandbox game with virtual events and fans interacting with each other.

I'll just assume the rest of your "translation" is also a lie

>>60096067
Sounds like pretty much the same thing she seemingly said in members

>>60096187
Nijiniggers just use SEA as a convenient scapegoat. Seriously look into any thread shitting on nijisanji and count how many posts it takes before they start mentioning SEA

>>60096242
No one cares about your faggotry here
>>>/pol/

>>60095868
If your 'dream' as an idol to create a unified community, then you're better off as a manager or something

>>60095868
The reason the board turned on her was because of Connor, back when most of ID wanted to fuck him for some reason.
The yubi incident was months old when it started getting spread and it only happened because because of her dickriding Connor.
Ollie used to be the shitposter's tool against Kiara (She's Kiara but better!) so of course she got a shit ton of backlash the moment they lost this argument.

>>60096095
Two of the dumbest girls in HoloEN if today suika streams were any indicator

>>60096143
>without trying to trick some of the girls into collabing with the Stars for the 2ND FUCKING TIME
Objective, non-shitposty QRD?
I remember something happening about a tournament but homos or no homos, that absolute shit game filters the ever loving fuck out of me so I ignored it.

>>60096242
>twitter
>being anything other than absolutely shit
Only good for art desu

>>60095505
I like how this post changes between exactly what is getting fingered

>>60095466
Ui mama is faster

>>60095832 >>60095904
>>60096065 >>60096078
>>60096201

>`Love Live!
How big is LL honestly? I feel like it's not even in the top 20, let alone top 10
im@s, now that's a "maybe"

>>60096054
unironically for cuckolds

>>60096286
>he doubts the baby pit strat

>>60096076
Days passed without a flipnigger seething on holoID: 0

>>60096220
>the sexual assaults part not included
Yet

>>60096121
They don't like it when their worthless branch gets point out

>>60095832
>wants to be like Love Live
Does he know that the LL fanbase despises the thought of just about any males appearing in the series?

>>60095868
or... she is just a garbage human being who time and time again make absolute shit decisions were the majority then comes back to bite her in the ass.

>>60095498
it can seem like Marine's mayonaka door is performing kinda badly if you were to glace at this post but it's been topping these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY7R0s61Uhs pretty consistently

I guess everything looks bad compared to LoliKami and Bishopai

>>60095928
So, where's this "Mr.Jap" that /#/ spoke so highly of?

>>60095832
>and China
Based.

>>60096367
funny that sounds just like what a nijinigger would say

Seems like you can't my triple gold and resorted to infighting. Not a good look, Holokeks

>>60096317
>The most obnoxious unicorn fanbase in existence, one which would put even the larpers in /#/ to shame
HOW?

>>60096296
I don't pay enough attention to ollie
By first time was some mario kart thing, I think?
Second time her Apex tourney that the girls weren't fully informed of the rules or the participants

>>60096416
Saving HoloEN

>>60095928
>SEA has the biggest potential thanks to it large young (weeb) population. NA is considered the hardest of the three due to VTuber being a obscure niche in an already niche market of anime albeit the current fans are more then willing to spend on merch. This meant that the media mix strategy that being employed for Japan won’t work in NA.
funny I seem to recall a similar conversation about mainstream appeals a few days back. Good to know it wasn't completely being pulled out of /#/'s ass

>>60096105
>not lolis
I guess I'll unload some to them

All the argument regarding shorts is retarded. All Holo (except the streamer type) are pushing out more shorts than ever, that alone should already tell you that it's worth something, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it

>>60096416
Don't see anything about Omegatranny either when the shitshow that was council predebut happened

Mumei's Orisong is the only chance for her to overtake IRyS to 1M. I can see why she would hire tiktok producers to secure that.
Wish IRyS would put more of a fight though.

>>60096416
Jap is the PRODUCER of EN
that guy from the interviewer is the head of the overseas branch, Japs boss

>>60096283
>most of ID
Zombie was the only one who's trying to get into his pants. I don't think even Iofi, the premier ID homocollaber, likes TT guys as much as the rotting zoomer.

>>60096095
Literal who on the left

>>60095953
it's partly because they brought in the ex-KR ex-ID into Nijisanji proper
It's like if hololive were to absorb ID and StarsJP

>>60096269
>unified community
Just to begin to do that you need to dodge the gigantic trap of having any significant part of your viewerbase, your community, feel left out or excluded, and you know what that requires at minimum?
A fuckload of streaming, bonding with your community, being there for them at all times. We're talking like 8 hours every single day like the most prolific twitch streamers. Holos can't do it because of all the other commitments.

>>60096431
Reddit dragon is long gone and Chammers is kill. May as well go for it, though it might cause a graduation chain-reaction as I doubt Fubuki would tolerate them bending the knee to the people who harassed her nonstop for years.

>>60095868
Tell Ollie that every content creator that exists derserve NOTHING. Just because thry make content doesn't mean that viewers are obligated to watch it, No matter how high quality or good it may be. They don't deserve the views and they don't deserve any attention. That's the mindset she should adopt. People watch things off their own tastes and preferences. That's the reality. She should learn to treat the viewers she's been cultivating for years now with respect. They watch her for a reason, I don't care what that reason is but she should treasure whatever scraps she has left with respect.

>>60096382
I think her decisions/desires were garbage too but, and maybe I'm being charitable, I still feel like they came from a place of youthful retardation more than anything approaching malice. I can't really think of her as a bad person, just a stupid and naive one.

>>60096296
>>60096473
It was Among Us, people speculated that the homos made their own Mario Kart tournament just to avoid it

>>60096551
Im sorry your eyesight is terrible
https://www.safeeyesamerica.org/home-eye-test

>>60096317
W-what did you mean by that, jerk?

Koyori is actually getting worse at this dogshit game. When will it end bros?

anons... ollie is in the pits of low views and she's not a malicious person, underhanded maybe.
why is the hate so strong, is it SEAfriends mad about the EN pandering rant?

>>60096343
we call them nijiniggers here

>>60096416
>plotting....
clown next!

>>60096296
>Objective, non-shitposty QRD?
She hosted an tournament that had two groups girls only then girls and boys. Ollie did not announce the teams until later on so people were shitposting ollie putting someone like gura on a team with a male when it had a 0% of happing.

>>60096296
She invited a bunch of holomem into the tourney and was vague about the homo-holo joint gameplay until the date drew close. Then some of the girls tried to sneakily bail out of it cuz they were basically getting tricked into homo collabs

>>60095907
>anime pfp
>greyfag
>thinks he's better than everyone
Rofl what an edgy JP weeblet.

>>60096296
The first time was among us where she tried to get some of the JP girls to collab with them but the homos saw it coming and all dropped out.
The second time is the Apex tournament where she refused to tell anyone what her plans were (multiple girls talked about how they had zero info on the details leading up to the day of the tournament), later on she said that the girls were not randomized but the guys were (deliberately made it 1 girl per team)

>>60096599
Please plot a way for Gura to actually fucking stream again

>>60096512
Only thing shorts is good for is the algorithm. Not good for ccvs

>>60095625
i wish

>>60095832
>west taiwan
when was this?

>>60096416
EN Project Director != Head of Oversea Business, anon

>>60096431
>>60096562

>>60096283
I feel like picrel was a direct consequence of that shitstorm

>>60095368
>especially when no respected Hoshiyomi would be caught dead browsing this shithole
I'm here.

>>60096586
Because she fucking throw away her career for e-celebs and homos

>>60096469
Well for one they seem to like what Orangemaru has to say about her

>>60096573
>I can't really think of her as a bad person, just a stupid and naive one.
She doesnt seem to feel bad about any of the things she's done so thats why I think she is just a trash of a human being, only stupid+naive is not enough to describe her imo.

>>60096547
Iofi, Moona and Risu were gaming with him offstream and even bragging about it on facebook.
It's what caused that shitshow in Moona's fanbase where her top gachi was pissed.

>>60096635
Mid to late 2019

>>60096242
Twitter makes vt looks like childplay

>>60096536
It will be loli bait with a catchy hook and good mv with tiktokable dance.
I belieb

>>60096586
Deflecting from King's gold.
Classic Holobronies

>>60096296
>Objective, non-shitposty QRD?
She organized a collab, invited some girls, invited the Holostars and only disclosed later that she had invited both AFTER they accepted
>the holostars took a gentleman stand and cancelled it alleging "other commitments" and never rescheduled

Then she used her FUCKING MILLION WISH to organize that minecraft tournament.
She invited all of the girls that participated all the way back in mid 2022 WITHOUT disclosing any detail of who the participants would be, what the format would be and when it would take place.

She got a lot of verbal agreements, likely in the form of
>hey <girl>, wanna take part of a APEX tournament I'm organizing?
which they agreed to pending more details.

Come 2023 and Ollie discloses the tournament with great fanfare, including the participants, pretty much
>APEX
>Hologirls
>Holostars
WITHOUT any further detail and say it was her dream since debut to organize something involving all her friends, from Holostars and from Hololive.

People of couse got the surprise of their lives, including many of the girls because they had no fucking idea that Ollie would disclose it, at that date or that Holostars would be participating at all.

It was much later, about a day later that Ollie disclosed that it would be split in three segments
>girls only, boys only and mixed
and disclosed the ones in the mixed segment but said it was not set in stone and that more girls could participate

All in all she used the girls names
>some which NEVER EVER would have accepted to take part in this model had it been disclosed beforehand
to create a "marquee" to publicize her cross agency cross branch cross market event and CLEARLY some of the girls didn't take it lightly, nor their audience.

>>60096620
>The first time was among us where she tried to get some of the JP girls to collab with them but the homos saw it coming and all dropped out.
The fuck ? Is it true ?

>>60096547
Moona was playing games with him offline too. There was like a 2 week period where you could browse the twitter feeds of any of the ID girls and see a connor mention

>>60096586
Unironically. Ollie hit her new low after that rant was clipped and the comments was full of EN clip watchers talking shit about ID viewers

>>60096682 (me)
Not facebook, twitter.

>>60096050
>THE MOST INFLUENTIAL

>>60096620
>>60096603

jesas fuck
i know she always love sucking male dick
but tricking your colleague to sucking male dick is such a bitch move
guess that why nobody fucking attend her 3d live

>>60096717
>that minecraft tournament.
that APEX tournament, my bad

>>60096586
She put herself there and as a supposed fan of hololive she should know exactly why her attempt at breaking apart boundaries and going out of the box led to that.

YOU WILL COLLAB WITH MALES

YOU WILL LIKE THE CHANGE

It's honestly fucked up that many of Regloss don't even have JP collabs on their schedule this week despite all collab bans being over. Holox basically got a Minecraft welcoming party. 8 "main branch" JP gens and not a single person reached out to Ririka? Nips are retarded man.

>>60096666
Maybe. I keep that kind of vitriol for people who actually had the intention to harm though, like the CN traitors.

>>60096629
And who tf care about ccv? Not even Pekora take it seriously
Just because people don't watch you play shitty game doesn't mean they suddenly forgot about you entirely. CCV is not a good indicator of anything

>>60096666
The irony of reading a /#/ poster call trash of a human being another person, kek

>>60096728
actually no, her low came in about 8 months after that got clipped

>>60096745
>w-w-why don't people like me, why dont they watch me
>my numbers

>>60096785
I like this change alot!

>>60096493
If you live or even know just a little bit about NA then this is pretty much common sense. Our domestic market is just too strong and varied for a lot of foreign media to penetrate the mainstream, the most you’ll get is British or Korean media making a small breakthrough every now and again

>>60096728
ID fans don't exactly have a stellar reputation, even compared to EOP shitters

>>60096720
How new. The stars suddenly bailed from that Amongus collab because of reason.

>>60096770
There's a distinction, she's a vtuber fan, not a holo fan.

>>60096720
nta but I'm pretty sure it was the one in which IRyS ALMOST collabed with the JP homos early on in her career

if you guys really love Ollie, why don't you guys watch her, she's forever 3views

>>60096808
You mean after her 1mil celebration stream ?

>>60096620
I remember her shilling tempiss right at the end of that stream and begged people to watch. Did it front of IRyS and Mumei.

>>60096838
But /#/ told me Hololive = Vutber?

>>60096586
scroll up
literally lying to your colleagues just to have unity collab
i don't have any problem if the girl want to male collab, but tricking them is such a dick move

>>60096787
Just get used to it. Cover seems like they want to plague the regloss with branch autism for the time being.
At worst Suisei will gradually reach out to all like she already has for Ririka and Ao. Minecraft a good bridge

>>60096857
She did it to herself

>>60095928
>An interview(Japanese) with Yagoo alongside Cover’s head of Overseas Business, Max Sung Yoon Kim (according to GoogleTL) a Korean national who used to work for an unspecified JP Video Game publisher.
>They reiterate that Metaverse is their future focus, comparing VTubing being more similar to ongoing service game like Genshin vs traditional seasonal nature of anime. They consider Vtubing as interactive anime and that direct interaction is the main appeal.
Where's that retard that kept claiming holoearth was not their attempt at copying genshin? Apologize now

>>60096857
look at the number of IPs anon, we are not thousands

>>60096242
I think the only way to solve the conflict is to nuke Jerusalem and make sure the place is radioactive for centuries.

>>60096857
woah woah woah, lets keep it civil

>>60096787
Anon, DEV_IS was clearly created as something alternative to HoloJP.
If they would be using HoloJP as a crutch they would be in no better position than HoloID in their "EN-lite" arc.

Whatever the reason their branch was created, it was definitely not to make them "honorary HoloJP7" so it is not hard to see why they're not getting the hero's welcome by the JP girls.
For all intents, there is no distinction between Holo_DEVIS and HoloID or HoloEN

>>60096002
She has shown that it was unsustainable for her to stream regularly, it's not like the period where she was streaming to high 4views numbers even beats Koyori or Chloe for that matter.
This should've been obvious when she pulled a 30 minute debut and did 0 teasing for her NY outfit, she has no streaming potential to begin with and was heavily carried by design+lore+voice.

>live streams
Well she's doing her 2nd anniversary 3D live in a month so that solves that issue, and her latest stream did 13k which is very good compared to other channels that aren't holo. It's not like she completely shuts out streaming on Youtube, if there's a uta relay or buff streams she'll still do it on youtube that leaves an archive.

>>60096826
Good Joshus are supposed to mind their own business.

>>60096857
>she's forever 3views
Anon?

>>60096821
It still honestly baffles me how kpop managed to get more success than Jpop in the states despite Japanese media having a much higher profile for most of the 90s and early 2000s. Japan really fucking dropped the ball there

>>60096787
>not hololive
just leeching holo because they flopped

>>60096821
Japan specifically Anime has penetrated to the US market though. Japanese animation/manga helped influence US's comic industry. Because of that, it's much more easier with vtubers since it's related to anime

>>60096899
retard >>60096256

>>60096829
Holy fuck just graduate her already
Im feel bad for her not long ago but now ..... nah

>>60096620
>the homos saw it coming and all dropped out.
How did we go from that to Aruran becoming a fuccboi panting for holo collabs

>>60096717
Yeah pretty much this. Imagine wasting your once in a lifetime 1M wish on a dogshit Apex tournament whose only purpose is to trick Holos into collabing with homos and push for mixed collabs.

>>60096899
>Where's that retard that kept claiming holoearth was not their attempt at copying genshin? Apologize now
See >>60096256
>Genshin is not mentioned at all in the artlcle
and
>it is a "Sandbox game" with "virtual events and fans interacting with each other"

>>60096929
J-Pop don't have the backing of the fucking government, that's why

>>60096857
anon?

>>60096682
It's kinda funny that Anya and Reine managed to ignore the Connor lust phase. I mean you could make an argument for Reine being a turbodyke but it's not like she's averse to fleshie male collabs and Anya is... well, Anya.

>>60095181
Were are the loliui lewds anyway, fucking gay ass boorus don't have anything and the bot I use on Twitter only tracks Holo chuubas

>>60096962
more like you were trolling

>>60096899
>holoEarth is Genshin killer
That's old news anon. Whenever Yagoo talks about the metaverse he always brings up fortnite and Genshin.

>>60096984
>Moaning game buff
>1.3K
OWARIDA.....

>>60096620
>>60096601
Now this is just malicious. Fuck off anons with that Ollie is young retarded zoomer bullshit. This is a mean spirited human who wants to destroy her colleagues achievement and security

*FINAL EN COPE TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>10/8 TALLY (1.000 - 4.999)
4.218: Calli (Hololive) | The Battle Cats
3.884: Ina (Hololive) | Pikmin 4
3.718: Uki (Nijisanji) | Suika Game
2.768: Ike (Nijisanji) | Just Chatting
2.369: Selen (Nijisanji) | #SelenTutor
1.978: Rosemi (Nijisanji) | Rose and Camellia
1.940: Pomu (Nijisanji) | Pumpkin Panic
1.861: Pippa (Phase-Connect) | Just Chatting
1.780: Bettel (Holostars) | Spooky's Jumpscare Mansion
1.632: Elira (Nijisanji) | Return of the Obra Dinn
1.316: Fulgur (Nijisanji) | Spirit Hunter NG
1.201: Vantacrow (Nijisanji) | Cyberpunk 2077
1.170: Hakka (Holostars) | Suika Game
1.087: Reimu (Nijisanji) | Suika Game
1.047: Shinri (Holostars) | White Day

>>60096857
>she's forever 3views
Numbers in charge of numbers

>>60096984
>coomer stream

>>60096493
>funny I seem to recall a similar conversation about mainstream appeals a few days back. Good to know it wasn't completely being pulled out of /#/'s ass
That part is not mentioned in the article at all as well, see >>60096256 for the other part anon made up.

Anon just picked most of the talking points of this thread and pretended to have come from yagoo's mouth, and retards are too retard to even run it through deepl, let alone having done their reps

>>60096991
Anya likes Japan and Holos. She's the real deal. She just likes being apart of Hololive without doing any big projects or collabs. Reine is already rich and is cruising from connections.

>>60096955
Last I heard manga mogs US comic

No...
https://youtu.be/1VHhQmQU_yI

>>60096929
K-pop while being cringe itself is not as bad as jpop. Plus the whole idol situation makes it even worse

>>60096964
Aruran is desperate as fuck to incline, he even lost fans because of how much of a bitch he was when his fans weren't happy with the redesign.
The guy doesn't even get invited to any of the streamer server stuff despite his branch mates constantly getting invited so it seems even more pathetic.

>>60097024
Bae once did the same to Mumei too. It's always the runts pulling others down with them

>>60097009
See >>60096256 (You)
>Genshin is not mentioned at all in the artlcle
and
>it is a "Sandbox game" with "virtual events and fans interacting with each other"

>>60096586
Funny that they actually might be right. Kobo the first full ID holo debuted and surpassed Ollie's subs in less than 6 months, also loved by the indos

>>60096984
>RFA
>Sub 2k
it's over

>>60097059
anon Kpop and Jpop has the exact same idol situation. If anything the Korean idol situation is worse because unlike japan Korean idols drive pretty much the entirity of kpop

>>60096955
>>60097052
I feel like it has more to do with US comic industry being dead since both Marval and DC switch their focus on movie and the comic scene getting infiltrated by ... You know ... THOSE kind of people (Same with gaming)

>>60097067
Remember when he said he would do a FUCKING WATCHALONG of Gamma playing on the VCR Rust server (as a hint that he wanted in)?
That was sad as fuck

holy shit not even threadreaders itt

>>60097087
Are there no old interviews where Yagoo brought up Genshin?

>>60097088
Brown monkey hand typed this stinky post

>>60097133
Go back to global ollieshitter

>>60096242
fuck off from our board, thank you

>>60097165
nijiseethe

>>60097133
It's the same anon trying to samefag his initial lie in hopes people won't notice

>>60097053
Ah, so that's why ...

>>60097167
stop trolling faggot

>>60097131
manga/comic in particular is dead because digital prints are available now. you only get physicals for a collection.

>>60097167
funny how that poster doesn't specify who he's referring to but this guy immediately assumes it's him

>>60097053
Lol her worst nightmare is self-dox?

>>60097150
Not to my knowledge, considering Genshin is not a sandbox and Holoearth is being referred as a sandbox with events for the longest time

>>60097053
Yeah, I could see X (Twitter) fucking up like that.

>>60096955
It’s penetrated the market but I wouldn’t call it mainstream yet, mostly because its popularity is heavily skewed toward the younger demographic. Maybe in two decades there will be enough of a generational shift to broaden the popularity of anime and manga and make it truly mainstream in NA

>>60096512
>Gura
>not a streamer type
>doesn't post shorts
Yeah you are retarded

>Cover : oh you got 1mil ? So what do you want ?
>Ollie : give me a homos collab
Lmao just kill me already

>>60097104
>anon Kpop and Jpop has the exact same idol situation.
Are they tho?

>>60096745
I know peko-chan doesn't like the ogey face but this one is really cute with its frown. The perfect curvature

>>60097274
diy coward

>>60097292
yes
yes they do

>>60097035
from #1 in cripple tally the other day straight down to #1 in cope tally Mori really is strong kek

>>60097257
>Cherrypicking example
Ok not ALL Holo, but more and more of them are pushing shorts

>there are dumbfucks trying to defend tricking holos into collabs with homos DESPITE the recorded backlash it ALWAYS brings
Fuck off assholes.

>>60097104
I’m not saying you’re wrong but I mean more of the perception. K-pop groups have m/f concerts, suggestive dancing with each other etc. While when you think of J-pop you think of idols who can’t interact with men or they get punished

>>60097059
>kpoop
It's better than exactly nothing

>>60097367
are you talking to yourself?

>>60097274

>>60097379
>While when you think of J-pop you think of idols who can’t interact with men or they get punished
and that description does not apply to Kpop, how exactly?

>>60097379
there's a reason everyone calls k-pop stars whores and j-pop stars pure, too

>>60097035
>3.884: Ina
Ina is reclining. Even though she is doing the same thing she always has. couple of game streams and art streams here and there. strange

>>60097333
>pushing shorts
Halfassedly and without committing. If Laplus got one thing right is that there is very little chance for someone to succeed at the shorts game while live streaming regularly because the algo will push you out of one of these two incompatible recommendation boxes

>>60097427
this is what happens when you spend too much time on /jp

>>60097403
Are you having a stroke?

The God of vtubers
The first and the true Queen of Vtuber World

It's unreal that niggas ITT will shitpost a Holo for random Twitter interactions and are now defending fucking Ollie of all people. The girl who legit admitted that she wants to break the barriers between Holos and Starshits.

>>60097482
who?

>>60097317
I'm still angry to this day about the shits they did to Kizuna
Like, shit on YAGOO all you want, but at least I know the worst my oshi will have to deal with is collab with a bunch of 3-view males, and NOT getting fucking paraded around like an NFT corpse

>>60097448
Oh fuck off, the fact remain that almost all Holo are attempting a steady output of short contents now. Idk why you have to try and say "shorts is LE BAD" using every reasoning possible

>>60097488
>>60097478

>>60097491
Fuck off chumcuck

>>60097455
I am not that anon and I have no interest in kpop or jpop but I have an interest in cosplay and thots in general and boy, the choreography by the mid level k-pop girl groups makes even the backing dancers from burger rappers to blush.

>>60097455
Here's your k-pop queen: https://youtu.be/PQjovLrnvVo?t=123

>>60097274
The only way I can see Ollie's dream making sense is if she thought she could slap together an OfflineTV pastiche from the holostars and select holos and suddenly everyone would incline to 10K+ because people would have their eyes glued to the screen for the witty bants and subtle sexual tension that would never go anywhere

>>60097542
fuck off with your literal who nigger

>>60097546
where holo?

>>60097038
If it werent for Suika and Neko Neko MC leeching she would idd have her avg ccv in 3view territory.

>Aki, Choco, Toto, Mondo, Beni, RC
Main party's pretty set by now
Good to see the best Vspo able to find her gound and incline from this (don't look at her numbers rn tho)

>>60097615
are you sure about that?

>>60097600
Your cuck will never be popular like Kizuna AI

>>60097416
I was taking a break from watching vtubers around the time this tournament was happening, was the tournament a success numbers wise? I know I heard something about Ollie trying to merchandise it and that flopping but I'm just asking about CCV here.

>>60097537
I am not saying shorts are bad. I am saying what people consider a shorts victorious strategy and what the girls are doing are two completely different things.
People consider a successful shorts channel one that gets a HUGE deal of VOD Views out of the shorts, billions in total, 5M a pop and the accompanying millions of subs that come with that exposure.
Holos post shorts since 2021 at least, to a varying degree of commitment, none with enough to have any breakthrough in the algo

>>60097038
>>60096984
Genuinely, why isn't se streaming on Twitch too?
Seems like the kind of crowd she could attract. And if she streamed only 1-2 times a week, it could be calming guerillas.

>>60096929
It’s a very similar story to how Japan fumbled what could have been an early lead in the smartphone industry. They make enough money domestically, so they don’t see a need to try to expand much outside their domestic market. So Korea takes that initiative to expand into the global market

>>60097488
If you actually believe this chain of events and there aren't bad actors here (like (You)), then you're a lost cause.

why isnt there a black vtuber with a black live2D yet

Someone needs a part time job to stay afloat...

>>60097662
who?

>>60097566
Is OTV even that popular anymore?

>>60097611
Taiwan Yab. But they wouldn't have joined anyway. Who cares.

>>60096929
One gets ESG money, the other doesn't.

>>60097424
Again m/f concerts are not that foreign in kpop. They have 1v1 sets where they’re basically on top of each other. You obviously have crazy fans who do want that pure experience but it doesn’t seem as deep as J-pop

>>60097686
There are several, mostly one views and VTweeters

>>60096984
>>60097022
>>60097095
Dont forget this fairly recent gem were RFA combined with her obesity made her not even last 40min kek

>>60097686
Wrong website
>www.x.com

>>60097317
I find it hard to believe that Ai's roommate did not apply for Hololive and that cover corp wont accept her.
What is going on behind the scenes? Did she sign a non compete?

>>60097724
some of them are in movies

Better go back to posting King if all you do is fighting over nonsense. I'll go first

>>60095124
They don't hire weeb SEA monkeys

>>60097686
There are quite a few.

Here's a rundown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QqSLcdA-tc

>>60097740
>it's crazy
I think watching them grind on stage is the craziness.

>>60097660
yes I am

>>60097673
>Holos post shorts since 2021 at least
Wait shorts have been around for that long?
>Pekora started posting short since her break in 2021
Oh shit it is. Hololive is quite slow on the uptake of it heh

>>60097771
Considering how Kizuna ended up, she's probably in some chinese slave joint thing.

>>60097797
buy an ad

>>60097675
Game variety and choice matters a hell of a lot on twitch and Ollie has never excelled in that area for some reason

Ollie being the first ever graduation from the ID branch would be fitting, considering she's NijiEN-lite and we know what happened to their ID branch.
But I don't really harbor much hate for her, just pity, so it'd still be a sad event.
Also I get the feeling she's just doing it for attention, because IDs are a lot closer to each other and the other girls would likely talk her out of it

>>60097823
>9
kek

>>60097786

>>60097686
They exist. Why aren't you watching them instead of being here, you racist?

>>60097488
The only one defending her are the crossposting globals

>>60097830
He asked I answered.
Buy an ad about buying an ad already. Saves you spelling time.