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>>60094853*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/>https://www.hololive-songs.com/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber>https://www.nijiuta.com/Twitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
>>60094853I have no idea what is going on and I may not want to know.
I swear motherfuckers /here/ just post bait without even checking lol
What now?
Before you get carried away remember our lord and saviour
>>60094891Just a cheeky KING gold for a threepeat
Ok but shitting on Ollie isn’t a nijikek tradition it’s a Holochad one.
Ollie's new job after graduating
>>60094904>without checkingthey checked global
HOLOKEKS STATUS?
>>60094904wasn't Sana the first one for that reason?
did ollie realize she was the reason she became unpopular over the years?
Koyo-chan... you are addicted...
https://twitter.com/kureijiollie/status/1710973120545505531https://twitter.com/kureijiollie/status/1710973120545505531https://twitter.com/kureijiollie/status/1710973120545505531HOLY FUCKING SHIT
>>60094722it does plays a role since YouTube still combines regular vod views and shorts views as one metric which then Cover can use to negotiate sponsorship deals.It's a blatant move by YT to push shorts to creators, but it is what it is.
>>60094956holy shit i want to fuck reine
>>60094956>Holoro on Reine's Hologra>it's a positive postOkay why are you shocked anon?
Sorry Koyori, 20k is for grown up sexy koyotes!
>>60094924She already made at least $150k during her entire career, I'm pretty sure that's enough to live comfortably for the rest of your lifetime in Indonesia
>>60094942Winning>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY195x: Hololive66x: Nijisanji10x: Indie5x: VSPO4x: Neo Porte
Ollie is like a Niji who lost her way into Hololive
Flare sound so bored playing Aka Manto jesus christ
>>60094919>You want to fuck King now
>>60095011>rest of your lifetimeno it's not retardo. You need at least $500k to be financial independent here.
>>60094674She has done things to try to achieve it. She just did not understand that the average Holo audience is not interested in watching Homos and outsiders especially when it is forced fed to them. You can only force feed that many times before people stop tolerating and leave. People just wanted someone who streams and interacts with other Holomem. Do it enough and you get your Kaela and Koyori who may not be breakout stars but will remain in the minds of the average viewer.
>>60094910Demi you need to supacha her for condom supa
>>60094853Shaka's and every Japanese eceleb onahole...I kneel to the true king willing to whore himself to get numbers
>>60095008LMAO JOSHUKEKS YOUR DICKS WERE EDGING
/#/ is incliningJWU what did Ollie do to create this seethe
>>60095051ollie doesn't really like the status quo in hololive, do this for 3 years, get holofans to watch you etc and you'd live comfortably. A pay that exceeds a doctor's salary in ID. If she leaves, she'll need to find a 9-5 job after her holofunds dries out.
Cover will let you graduate at any time you want if your numbers are so fucking low ..... well just like Ollie But they will not let you go easily if you are too big like First Army or mascot like Gura until the found the replacement ( but i think they will never found the second one like them lol )
>>60095021More like a Vshojo. Hey maybe they let her in after she graduates too
>>60095068No thanks
>>60095123>But they will not let you go easilyWhat exactly do you think they can or would do to stop them if they were set on leaving
Get out
oh, he's still working on ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpRwsAKjWyM
>>60095151the contract they sign
>>60094956JESAS FUCKING FUCK. WHY IS REINE SO SEX ???>inb4 janny with the nsfw bullshit
>>60095051>”I love Hololive”>”I wanna change it”Ollie is just retarded. There is a known project that is succeeding and she wants to change it just to fit their narrative. Same shit a go woke go broke shit, they think they know better
>>60095151>until they found the replacement
SNOT status?
>>60095071Shaka was leeching me, holo friend. I made this server worth watching
>>60095213>T
>>60094969>which then Cover can use to negotiate sponsorship deals.I would definitely agree with you if you were talking about Aki (let's say) or Mel but, answer truthfully>does it look now or ever looked like Cover had any trouble getting sponsorship deals for Laplus or any of the HoloX girls?They were arguably the first gen in the post>Nissin Curry Meshi Holo, one that Cover had companies approach them for deals instead of Yagoo having to knock on doors and try to secure some deals.That and Laplus, in particular, was always meant to be the star of that gen, the centerpiece, the locomotive. She would never have any trouble securing the number needed to get any sponsorship she wanted.The truth is simple1) Laplus, by her own admission, does not like live streaming2) Laplus very likely gave her resignation notice when she blew that full holoX 3D live, and Cover haggled with her different conditions to get her to stayThose conditions likely involved >not needing to live stream on youtube outside of collabs and official commitments, can do it on Twitch on a more relaxed mannerwhich she clearly took.I say she could upload ZERO shorts, continue streaming on Twitch and that would change nothing to her.
I am disappointed that FWMC didnt hit 20k.
Grim
>>60095213>N>T
>>6009500819,999 HOLY SHIT THE NUMBERINOS
>>60095123/#/ acts like Ollie is some 2view she’s not even close to the worst performing ID. She’s behind ID3 and Moona who’s always been ahead of.
>>60094956https://twitter.com/pavoliareine/status/1703589991266337096https://twitter.com/pavoliareine/status/1703589991266337096God bless hologra
how hard is it for cover to find people who likes hololive? Just do 20 interview questions about Hololive. Niji looks at subs, Hololive looks at their past experiences and talents but it's kinda stupid for them to overlook if they actually like hololive or not where culture actually matters
>>60095191why pochimama has a ribs fetish?
>>60095271
>>60095051>She just did not understand She did, she said she wanted to change it. And she acted on that thought and REALLY tried to change it
>>60095237overlap hell puresu andastando, fauna didn't raid
>>60095213It's just NO now.
>>60095305>Fauna
>>60095300We dont need another Nerissa.
Why do we suddenly care about Ollie?
Holo and niji members graduate Vshojo belike :
>>60095237being too japanese and flip flopping between EN and JP not to mention has barely anything EN relatable to say means you're doomed to be a shitter like IRyS and FWMC is slowly going to be IRyS 2.0
>>60095330
>>60095087NothingI mean, there's not much to shitpost on Hololive atm, and Suisei baits only go so far, especially when no respected Hoshiyomi would be caught dead browsing this shithole
>HOLOLIVE BOARD>HOLOLIVE THREAD
>>60095123Just graduate all ID while they're at it, it's a worthless market anyway
DISCUSS
>>60095340Nothing to shitpost about so time looping Ollie actually hates hololive
>>60095344the cumdumpster of vtubing industry
>>60095276The only person she's definitively ahead of these days is Iofi.
>>60095352Explain the rest of advent then.
>>60095398ARK too stronk even Aki is inclining
>>60095276>>60095414>w-we love Ollie Pathetic
was reading the bait thread,which one of Advent has >potential< to replace CURRENT Gura?
>>60095344do vshoujo even want ollie?
>>60095398ARKtism I kneel
>>60095398Marine really moving quickly to reach Kizuna's number, isn't she?
>>60095398>Kneel to the VCR chads>Kneel to the Tiktok kings>Kneel to the lolicon GODs
>>60095300What DO you even like about Hololive as a creator?
>>60095396This but EN.
>>60095087More like people are just frustrated with how she was so stubborn on all the shit that was killing her numbers only to instantly throw in the towel when it became clear that her doubters were right, instead of picking up the pieces and streaming things viewers actually want to watchLike yeah, you won't be the queen of ID like you were back in your heyday but it's not the end of the world
>>60029063 >Ui : 26M>Marine : 19M>Gura : 2.7M>Micomet : 1.7M>Marine : 1.3M
>>60095227I wonder if any of the girls think it's unfair laplus gets everything handed to her while doing the least amount of work.Cover has the whole everyone gets a slice of the pie thing going on, but I would personally not be able to help not feeling annoyed be a coworker getting a pie while actively not giving a shit. Why should I bother trying beyond the minimum? Why should they get to coast on my efforts?
Ollie overstayed her welcome tbdesu
>>60095464>she from Holo Yes we want her
>>60095487Nice try sister
>>60095344Is Vshitshow the US Major League soccer of the Vtubing world ?
>SC: Please don't leave>I will eventually leave, just not now, not tomorrow, not next week, not next month, not next year but eventuallyOkay, you can all calm down now, your favorite ID isn't leaving yet.
>>60095460None. Even a 14k+ guaranteed stream is out of reach for all of them, and all of the western vtuber world.Wherever Gura's audience comes, it is not from the HoloEN box and it is very likely to come from the general north american live streaming watcher.
>>60095214Why are you lying Nijifriend we've always kneel to King for his willingness to whore himself, isn' his most watched stream the one with that male idol? At least top 3 still.Our biggest eceleb whore our King o7
>>60095458This but unironically
>>60095227Even the dumbest marketers would think twice before spending sponsorships on a channel with no active content anon, the shorts pushes her up to the 8th most viewed (as in playbacks) holo member that all also does their share of vods+streams+shorts in the last month.And it's not just a matter of getting the deal, by having higher numbers you can get more out of that deal by negotiating its terms and costs. Holox with 10M total views channel will earn less in sponsorship deals than Holox with 100M total views channel even if they pulled the same number of deals.
>>60094947No. Sana graduated because she loves drawing and prefer her artist job over streaming.
>>60095501ShillX privilege.
>>60095487based
>>60095414But she does tho? Wtf would you want to change something you love? >le I love you Senpai cringe to every single Holo without failDoes she even watch them? She literally does this to everyone like she has nothing else
>>60095501>I wonder if any of the girls think it's unfair Gura gets everything handed to her while doing the least amount of work.Same questionSame answerThey really don't give a shit
>>60094693Short views are worthless. 1k vod views are $5-10, 1k short views are $0.05 if you are lucky. And the only ones that do well in her channel are the higher quality 3D shorts, which after looking at her most recent shorts, you can see it's not sustainable. Watame used to get 1-2M with giriwaru shorts easily until she switched to VODs because it was just not worth it. Shorts without something to promote are worthless, all that is left for shorts is to get tens of millions of views and translate those vieqs into subs. But her sub count is stuck
>>60095553And the nijikek reveals himself just like that
Wait Ollie is thinking of leaving Hololive ? What the fuck did I miss and who should I be thanking for this ???
>>60095547she's a 10k floor.
>>60094956The indonesian Hologra episodes are the fucking worst. When they start going al rakachaba googa krok it makes me want to close the video.They barely even speak that language on their streams
>>60095398Tiktok buzz > wide server orgies
i dont hate ollie enough to care. when is mori graduating?
>>60095625She's just doomposting and thinking of it happening eventually, nothing happening in the near future
>>60095458>Ollie’s /#/ are soooo bad>No they aren’t>you’re not supposed to call out for being wrong We have a fanfic thread go write your fiction in there mongoloid
>>60095625If only...
>>60095237Streaming during JP hours in English because management would not let them have more than 1 stream in Japanese only.
>>60095700>Ollie's numbers arent badStop being a brain dead retard
>>60095501>unfairFor the most part the revenue of the girls matches their output.>Why should I bother trying beyond the minimum? When you work in an environment where your own revenue is proportional to your own output (in ANY area of expertise) you don't really give a fuck about the rest of the group.Koyori wouldn't make any significant more money or any less money if Laplus worked harder so, for people like her, it is indifferent. Actually, each opportunity Laplus leaves on the table is taken by one of the other girls so I say they're not moping about it.
>>60095398MUKIROZE CHAD MEASURING UP TO MILLIONS SPENT ON MUSIC WITH HER ARK AUTISM
I have no idea if this new members stream rrat is true, but Ollie was talking about graduation the other day on Minecraft as I saw a clip title when browsing. Will dig it up in a bit if anyone gives a shit
>>60095695Why would Mori of all people graduate now? If I was going to put a list of holos I could see leaving within a year or two she wouldn't even be up for consideration.
>>60095604You can disagree with me, but Gura arguably put in some work to make the EN branch popular beyond expectations. Laplus came in while her branch was going strong and didn't contribute anything to reinforce or grow hololive.
>>60095501if you're talking about main channel appearances, the she's just happened to be the first ones to respond to their @talents discord posts.Most likely because most holos rather stream at home than showing up on the studio and records for the day, and laplus prefers exactly the opposite of that.
>>60095604>La+Who ? >GuraThe most popular vtuber in the world That's the different anon
>>60095333So you want more Nerissas?
>>60095398Unicorns lost.
>>60095014Does KING defeat rest of nijisanji?
>>60095709Koyori reclined...
>>60095545someone post the Magi screenshot of him talking about his fans getting a magmite tatoo
>Tanigo:>I would like to grow into a virtual talent group that is extremely popular in Japan and China, and become a VTuber group that can fill large halls like Budokan in Japan and Mercedes Benz Arena in China.>For example, just like Bushiroad and others are creating popular IP through television and existing media, we are creating new talents and IP on the Internet. We want to create a talent group and IP that can rival ``Love Live!'' from the Internet.
So a month in, what was the point of DEV_IS again?
This board is honestly the reason for ollie decline. The board was behind yubi incident that only stop when her face was leaked, to people attacking her collab partners causing them to leave her. Just a couple of months ago people trashing her apex cup when she used her wish on the project in order to get it going in the first place. I'm not even a big fan of ollie but to see her dream event since debut get trashed sucks.
>>60095744Read the context you absolute troglodyte
>>60095780>Gura arguably put in some work to make the EN branch popular beyond expectationsGod /vt/ are the most brain rotted people against Gura.ARGUABLY? Really? That's what the branch's top talent did, someone who streamed just fine for years? "Arguably made them popular"? Then what the fuck did Ina, Ame and Kiara do?
>>60095832>Love livethat series is fucking dead
>>60095769>Talks about graduation in public stream>No one cares enough to talk or clip about itFunny if true
Posted without context. Behold a Greyfag .
https://www.onecareer.jp/articles/3159An interview(Japanese) with Yagoo alongside Cover’s head of Overseas Business, Max Sung Yoon Kim (according to GoogleTL) a Korean national who used to work for an unspecified JP Video Game publisher.They reiterate that Metaverse is their future focus, comparing VTubing being more similar to ongoing service game like Genshin vs traditional seasonal nature of anime. They consider Vtubing as interactive anime and that direct interaction is the main appeal.Youtube focusing more on short(er) form content is bad for their advertisement view revenue but their revenue from fans engagement (Superchat, Membership) is stable highlighting their need to focus on fan engagement.They still continuing expanding into their oversea operation with SEA and NA (and the rest of East Asia) being the big focus. East Asia is the easiest thanks to Japanese Media penetration and close geographic proximity making business easier to do. In term of fan growth,SEA has the biggest potential thanks to it large young (weeb) population. NA is considered the hardest of the three due to VTuber being a obscure niche in an already niche market of anime albeit the current fans are more then willing to spend on merch. This meant that the media mix strategy that being employed for Japan won’t work in NA.Connect the world sold out their 6000 capacity venue ticket with a 15k online audience.The rest is basically a recruitment ad with a section where they basically said: “Hey instead of working for any old game/anime company with a stable IP that you can’t control how about working for us to challenge yourself and become the next culture ambassador/exporter”.
>>60095517It's always so crazy to me how much ahead of NijiJP HoloEN is on theseI always underestimate how many of those NijiJPs are just complete shitters
>>60095868>Just a couple of months ago people trashing her apex cup when she used her wish on the project in order to get it going in the first placeOH gee I wonder why
>>60095789Lolicons mog unikeks any day
>>60095501They don't get paid equally, they earn what they generate. If lap is happy with pissing away her golden ticket for valo spam on twitch with e-celebs, I doubt the other holo contracts give a shit about her as long as they grind and earn their own money
https://twitter.com/7uta_sub/status/1711048488069595583>You have the purity of a girl who would never cheat on her husbandMy pure concubine wife...
>>60095557>Even the dumbest marketers would think twice before spending sponsorships on a channel with no active content anonI agree and that goes without saying. My point is not>present laplus vs. laplus that gave upbut>present laplus vs. laplus that did what she was hired to dowhich would have her outranking Koyori in every metric (except number of streams) EFFORTLESSLY.But I say even the dumbest marketeer wouldn't think twice before asking to see a sample of the most viewed videos in the period in question for the channel to decide if the audience is a fit for their product.>SUGOI! 10M VOD Views this month!>We want to do a sponsored live stream, can you show the most viewed live streams in the period for us to decide if the audience is the correct one for our segment?
>>60095777The only time that I could have ever seen Mori leaving was that short period inbetween the Condom Money for Conner arc and the UMG deal.She seemed very disillusioned at that point and I think if that deal hadn't have happened she may have been gone by now.
>>60095868Gee. If she didn't try to drag Holos in with Homos and instead do an entirely outsider based event, she may have succeeded without as much backlash
>>60095618Watame is still regularly posting shorts anon, it may not justify the cost of a giriwaru production, but it has its results otherwise she wouldn't continue
>>60095868>This board is honestly the reason for ollie declineOh fuck off You shit blame /#/ for everything>my numbers suck, it's /#/ fault>my channel are dying, it's /#/ fault>my oshi is graduate, it's /#/ fault>Im suck and it's /#/ fault
>>60095904idolm@ster is better anyway
>>60095832how the fuck are homos supposed to do that
>>60095769https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16dFHn9AOh0&pp=ygURb2xsaWUgZ3JhZHVhdGlvbiA%3D&themeRefreshMobile fagging so shitty link probably, but she talks about preparing her viewers for inevitable graduation here and how no good thing lasts forever.Who knows what she said in the supposed members stream to add to this, but we can only hope
>>60095398All those people subbing to Aki, just to never watch a single stream from her after VCR ends.It's the EN clip arc from 2020 all over again.
>>60095928Still won't save holoID
>>60095832>We want to create a talent group and IP that can rival ``Love Live!'' from the Internet.Unless you kick homocollabers like Fubuki, Towa, Matsuri, and Lapu, you can kiss that dream goodbye Yagoo
>>60096076Nijiseethe
>>60095789I see Loli, I bot her subs. Simple as
>>60096090Still find it funny the nijiseethe poster was always a SEA
>>60096036Her shorts are just PVs for her habanai videos and mvs, she stopped posting giriwaru in short format
>>60096050Holy ESL Not wrong though
>>60095868Unironically, have better dreams
>>60095898Anon, Gura's existence only amounts to her activity in the last 1-2 years.Mori only in her first 1-2 years.Got in memorized?
>>60095868Had she handled her Wish Tournament thing like a normal fucking Holomember, without trying to trick some of the girls into collabing with the Stars for the 2ND FUCKING TIME, then nobody would have been upset.It's her own fault that she can't get this concept through her thick brown skull.
>>60096121what's the matter, feeling called out?
>>60096148I find it funny, so not really
>>60096121why do nijifags hate SEA so much?
>>60095868>try to change hololive>kill her own channel insteada story as old as time
>>60095832If he want to rival LL he should stop trying to force homos into the mix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LTvNOrF4tshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LTvNOrF4tshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LTvNOrF4ts
>>60096076Don't worry I'm putting in the call to save HoloID right now.
>>60095545>the supposed membership graduation rrat comes from her SC readingwho's responsible of the bait?
>>60095505>2021?????????????????????????????????What ollie did today to get shit on???
>>60096065Homos are supposed to try to be online Jonny's (the sexual assaults part not included)
>>60096215not graduating
[News]Aki FINALLY caught a Tropeonagthus. It took at least 3 deaths for this to happen
I thought holo/niji tribalism on here was bad with people falseflagging in different groups. But twitter is shittier with the ongoing shit that's happening in Palestine. Somehow people are memory-holing the fact that the land wasn't israel's to begin with.
>>60095928>They reiterate that Metaverse is their future focus, comparing VTubing being more similar to ongoing service game like Genshin vs traditional seasonal nature of animeGenshin is not mentioned at all in the artlcleActually, the translation would be the OPPOSITE of that>We will continue to deliver high-quality content to a large number of fans through VTuber's media mix development and licensing business. >On the other hand, we plan to release Metaverse in 2024, a project that is not being undertaken by other companies in our industry.>As part of the Metaverse project "HoloEarth" we are developing a sandbox game that allows players to freely act in a virtual space. A sandbox game>Normally, we would have asked an outside production company to proceed with the project, but we have created an in-house development team and are aiming for an unprecedented Metaverse by leveraging our content development capabilities. >We will provide customers with new experiences never seen before, such as holding virtual events on the Metaverse and allowing fans to interact with each other.Sandbox game with virtual events and fans interacting with each other.I'll just assume the rest of your "translation" is also a lie
>>60096067Sounds like pretty much the same thing she seemingly said in members
>>60096187Nijiniggers just use SEA as a convenient scapegoat. Seriously look into any thread shitting on nijisanji and count how many posts it takes before they start mentioning SEA
>>60096242No one cares about your faggotry here>>>/pol/
>>60095868If your 'dream' as an idol to create a unified community, then you're better off as a manager or something
>>60095868The reason the board turned on her was because of Connor, back when most of ID wanted to fuck him for some reason.The yubi incident was months old when it started getting spread and it only happened because because of her dickriding Connor.Ollie used to be the shitposter's tool against Kiara (She's Kiara but better!) so of course she got a shit ton of backlash the moment they lost this argument.
>>60096095Two of the dumbest girls in HoloEN if today suika streams were any indicator
>>60096143>without trying to trick some of the girls into collabing with the Stars for the 2ND FUCKING TIMEObjective, non-shitposty QRD?I remember something happening about a tournament but homos or no homos, that absolute shit game filters the ever loving fuck out of me so I ignored it.
>>60096242>twitter >being anything other than absolutely shitOnly good for art desu
>>60095505I like how this post changes between exactly what is getting fingered
>>60095466Ui mama is faster
>>60095832 >>60095904 >>60096065 >>60096078 >>60096201>`Love Live!How big is LL honestly? I feel like it's not even in the top 20, let alone top 10 im@s, now that's a "maybe"
>>60096054unironically for cuckolds
>>60096286>he doubts the baby pit strat
>>60096076Days passed without a flipnigger seething on holoID: 0
>>60096220>the sexual assaults part not includedYet
>>60096121They don't like it when their worthless branch gets point out
>>60095832>wants to be like Love LiveDoes he know that the LL fanbase despises the thought of just about any males appearing in the series?
>>60095868or... she is just a garbage human being who time and time again make absolute shit decisions were the majority then comes back to bite her in the ass.
>>60095498it can seem like Marine's mayonaka door is performing kinda badly if you were to glace at this post but it's been topping these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY7R0s61Uhs pretty consistentlyI guess everything looks bad compared to LoliKami and Bishopai
>>60095928So, where's this "Mr.Jap" that /#/ spoke so highly of?
>>60095832>and ChinaBased.
>>60096367funny that sounds just like what a nijinigger would say
Seems like you can't my triple gold and resorted to infighting. Not a good look, Holokeks
>>60096317>The most obnoxious unicorn fanbase in existence, one which would put even the larpers in /#/ to shameHOW?
>>60096296I don't pay enough attention to ollieBy first time was some mario kart thing, I think?Second time her Apex tourney that the girls weren't fully informed of the rules or the participants
>>60096416Saving HoloEN
>>60095928>SEA has the biggest potential thanks to it large young (weeb) population. NA is considered the hardest of the three due to VTuber being a obscure niche in an already niche market of anime albeit the current fans are more then willing to spend on merch. This meant that the media mix strategy that being employed for Japan won’t work in NA.funny I seem to recall a similar conversation about mainstream appeals a few days back. Good to know it wasn't completely being pulled out of /#/'s ass
>>60096105>not lolisI guess I'll unload some to them
All the argument regarding shorts is retarded. All Holo (except the streamer type) are pushing out more shorts than ever, that alone should already tell you that it's worth something, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it
>>60096416Don't see anything about Omegatranny either when the shitshow that was council predebut happened
Mumei's Orisong is the only chance for her to overtake IRyS to 1M. I can see why she would hire tiktok producers to secure that. Wish IRyS would put more of a fight though.
>>60096416Jap is the PRODUCER of ENthat guy from the interviewer is the head of the overseas branch, Japs boss
>>60096283>most of IDZombie was the only one who's trying to get into his pants. I don't think even Iofi, the premier ID homocollaber, likes TT guys as much as the rotting zoomer.
>>60096095Literal who on the left
>>60095953it's partly because they brought in the ex-KR ex-ID into Nijisanji properIt's like if hololive were to absorb ID and StarsJP
>>60096269>unified communityJust to begin to do that you need to dodge the gigantic trap of having any significant part of your viewerbase, your community, feel left out or excluded, and you know what that requires at minimum? A fuckload of streaming, bonding with your community, being there for them at all times. We're talking like 8 hours every single day like the most prolific twitch streamers. Holos can't do it because of all the other commitments.
>>60096431Reddit dragon is long gone and Chammers is kill. May as well go for it, though it might cause a graduation chain-reaction as I doubt Fubuki would tolerate them bending the knee to the people who harassed her nonstop for years.
>>60095868Tell Ollie that every content creator that exists derserve NOTHING. Just because thry make content doesn't mean that viewers are obligated to watch it, No matter how high quality or good it may be. They don't deserve the views and they don't deserve any attention. That's the mindset she should adopt. People watch things off their own tastes and preferences. That's the reality. She should learn to treat the viewers she's been cultivating for years now with respect. They watch her for a reason, I don't care what that reason is but she should treasure whatever scraps she has left with respect.
>>60096382I think her decisions/desires were garbage too but, and maybe I'm being charitable, I still feel like they came from a place of youthful retardation more than anything approaching malice. I can't really think of her as a bad person, just a stupid and naive one.
>>60096296>>60096473It was Among Us, people speculated that the homos made their own Mario Kart tournament just to avoid it
>>60096551Im sorry your eyesight is terriblehttps://www.safeeyesamerica.org/home-eye-test
>>60096317W-what did you mean by that, jerk?
Koyori is actually getting worse at this dogshit game. When will it end bros?
anons... ollie is in the pits of low views and she's not a malicious person, underhanded maybe.why is the hate so strong, is it SEAfriends mad about the EN pandering rant?
>>60096343we call them nijiniggers here
>>60096416>plotting....clown next!
>>60096296>Objective, non-shitposty QRD?She hosted an tournament that had two groups girls only then girls and boys. Ollie did not announce the teams until later on so people were shitposting ollie putting someone like gura on a team with a male when it had a 0% of happing.
>>60096296She invited a bunch of holomem into the tourney and was vague about the homo-holo joint gameplay until the date drew close. Then some of the girls tried to sneakily bail out of it cuz they were basically getting tricked into homo collabs
>>60095907>anime pfp>greyfag>thinks he's better than everyoneRofl what an edgy JP weeblet.
>>60096296The first time was among us where she tried to get some of the JP girls to collab with them but the homos saw it coming and all dropped out.The second time is the Apex tournament where she refused to tell anyone what her plans were (multiple girls talked about how they had zero info on the details leading up to the day of the tournament), later on she said that the girls were not randomized but the guys were (deliberately made it 1 girl per team)
>>60096599Please plot a way for Gura to actually fucking stream again
>>60096512Only thing shorts is good for is the algorithm. Not good for ccvs
>>60095625i wish
>>60095832>west taiwanwhen was this?
>>60096416EN Project Director != Head of Oversea Business, anon
>>60096431>>60096562
>>60096283I feel like picrel was a direct consequence of that shitstorm
>>60095368>especially when no respected Hoshiyomi would be caught dead browsing this shitholeI'm here.
>>60096586Because she fucking throw away her career for e-celebs and homos
>>60096469Well for one they seem to like what Orangemaru has to say about her
>>60096573>I can't really think of her as a bad person, just a stupid and naive one.She doesnt seem to feel bad about any of the things she's done so thats why I think she is just a trash of a human being, only stupid+naive is not enough to describe her imo.
>>60096547Iofi, Moona and Risu were gaming with him offstream and even bragging about it on facebook.It's what caused that shitshow in Moona's fanbase where her top gachi was pissed.
>>60096635Mid to late 2019
>>60096242Twitter makes vt looks like childplay
>>60096536It will be loli bait with a catchy hook and good mv with tiktokable dance.I belieb
>>60096586Deflecting from King's gold. Classic Holobronies
>>60096296>Objective, non-shitposty QRD?She organized a collab, invited some girls, invited the Holostars and only disclosed later that she had invited both AFTER they accepted>the holostars took a gentleman stand and cancelled it alleging "other commitments" and never rescheduledThen she used her FUCKING MILLION WISH to organize that minecraft tournament.She invited all of the girls that participated all the way back in mid 2022 WITHOUT disclosing any detail of who the participants would be, what the format would be and when it would take place.She got a lot of verbal agreements, likely in the form of>hey <girl>, wanna take part of a APEX tournament I'm organizing? which they agreed to pending more details.Come 2023 and Ollie discloses the tournament with great fanfare, including the participants, pretty much>APEX>Hologirls>HolostarsWITHOUT any further detail and say it was her dream since debut to organize something involving all her friends, from Holostars and from Hololive.People of couse got the surprise of their lives, including many of the girls because they had no fucking idea that Ollie would disclose it, at that date or that Holostars would be participating at all.It was much later, about a day later that Ollie disclosed that it would be split in three segments>girls only, boys only and mixedand disclosed the ones in the mixed segment but said it was not set in stone and that more girls could participateAll in all she used the girls names>some which NEVER EVER would have accepted to take part in this model had it been disclosed beforehandto create a "marquee" to publicize her cross agency cross branch cross market event and CLEARLY some of the girls didn't take it lightly, nor their audience.
>>60096620>The first time was among us where she tried to get some of the JP girls to collab with them but the homos saw it coming and all dropped out.The fuck ? Is it true ?
>>60096547Moona was playing games with him offline too. There was like a 2 week period where you could browse the twitter feeds of any of the ID girls and see a connor mention
>>60096586Unironically. Ollie hit her new low after that rant was clipped and the comments was full of EN clip watchers talking shit about ID viewers
>>60096682 (me)Not facebook, twitter.
>>60096050>THE MOST INFLUENTIAL
>>60096620>>60096603jesas fucki know she always love sucking male dickbut tricking your colleague to sucking male dick is such a bitch moveguess that why nobody fucking attend her 3d live
>>60096717>that minecraft tournament.that APEX tournament, my bad
>>60096586She put herself there and as a supposed fan of hololive she should know exactly why her attempt at breaking apart boundaries and going out of the box led to that.
YOU WILL COLLAB WITH MALESYOU WILL LIKE THE CHANGE
It's honestly fucked up that many of Regloss don't even have JP collabs on their schedule this week despite all collab bans being over. Holox basically got a Minecraft welcoming party. 8 "main branch" JP gens and not a single person reached out to Ririka? Nips are retarded man.
>>60096666Maybe. I keep that kind of vitriol for people who actually had the intention to harm though, like the CN traitors.
>>60096629And who tf care about ccv? Not even Pekora take it seriouslyJust because people don't watch you play shitty game doesn't mean they suddenly forgot about you entirely. CCV is not a good indicator of anything
>>60096666The irony of reading a /#/ poster call trash of a human being another person, kek
>>60096728actually no, her low came in about 8 months after that got clipped
>>60096745>w-w-why don't people like me, why dont they watch me>my numbers
>>60096785I like this change alot!
>>60096493If you live or even know just a little bit about NA then this is pretty much common sense. Our domestic market is just too strong and varied for a lot of foreign media to penetrate the mainstream, the most you’ll get is British or Korean media making a small breakthrough every now and again
>>60096728ID fans don't exactly have a stellar reputation, even compared to EOP shitters
>>60096720How new. The stars suddenly bailed from that Amongus collab because of reason.
>>60096770There's a distinction, she's a vtuber fan, not a holo fan.
>>60096720nta but I'm pretty sure it was the one in which IRyS ALMOST collabed with the JP homos early on in her career
if you guys really love Ollie, why don't you guys watch her, she's forever 3views
>>60096808You mean after her 1mil celebration stream ?
>>60096620I remember her shilling tempiss right at the end of that stream and begged people to watch. Did it front of IRyS and Mumei.
>>60096838But /#/ told me Hololive = Vutber?
>>60096586scroll upliterally lying to your colleagues just to have unity collabi don't have any problem if the girl want to male collab, but tricking them is such a dick move
>>60096787Just get used to it. Cover seems like they want to plague the regloss with branch autism for the time being. At worst Suisei will gradually reach out to all like she already has for Ririka and Ao. Minecraft a good bridge
>>60096857She did it to herself
>>60095928>An interview(Japanese) with Yagoo alongside Cover’s head of Overseas Business, Max Sung Yoon Kim (according to GoogleTL) a Korean national who used to work for an unspecified JP Video Game publisher.>They reiterate that Metaverse is their future focus, comparing VTubing being more similar to ongoing service game like Genshin vs traditional seasonal nature of anime. They consider Vtubing as interactive anime and that direct interaction is the main appeal.Where's that retard that kept claiming holoearth was not their attempt at copying genshin? Apologize now
>>60096857look at the number of IPs anon, we are not thousands
>>60096242I think the only way to solve the conflict is to nuke Jerusalem and make sure the place is radioactive for centuries.
>>60096857woah woah woah, lets keep it civil
>>60096787Anon, DEV_IS was clearly created as something alternative to HoloJP. If they would be using HoloJP as a crutch they would be in no better position than HoloID in their "EN-lite" arc.Whatever the reason their branch was created, it was definitely not to make them "honorary HoloJP7" so it is not hard to see why they're not getting the hero's welcome by the JP girls.For all intents, there is no distinction between Holo_DEVIS and HoloID or HoloEN
>>60096002She has shown that it was unsustainable for her to stream regularly, it's not like the period where she was streaming to high 4views numbers even beats Koyori or Chloe for that matter.This should've been obvious when she pulled a 30 minute debut and did 0 teasing for her NY outfit, she has no streaming potential to begin with and was heavily carried by design+lore+voice. >live streamsWell she's doing her 2nd anniversary 3D live in a month so that solves that issue, and her latest stream did 13k which is very good compared to other channels that aren't holo. It's not like she completely shuts out streaming on Youtube, if there's a uta relay or buff streams she'll still do it on youtube that leaves an archive.
>>60096826Good Joshus are supposed to mind their own business.
>>60096857>she's forever 3viewsAnon?
>>60096821It still honestly baffles me how kpop managed to get more success than Jpop in the states despite Japanese media having a much higher profile for most of the 90s and early 2000s. Japan really fucking dropped the ball there
>>60096787>not hololivejust leeching holo because they flopped
>>60096821Japan specifically Anime has penetrated to the US market though. Japanese animation/manga helped influence US's comic industry. Because of that, it's much more easier with vtubers since it's related to anime
>>60096899retard >>60096256
>>60096829Holy fuck just graduate her already Im feel bad for her not long ago but now ..... nah
>>60096620>the homos saw it coming and all dropped out.How did we go from that to Aruran becoming a fuccboi panting for holo collabs
>>60096717Yeah pretty much this. Imagine wasting your once in a lifetime 1M wish on a dogshit Apex tournament whose only purpose is to trick Holos into collabing with homos and push for mixed collabs.
>>60096899>Where's that retard that kept claiming holoearth was not their attempt at copying genshin? Apologize nowSee >>60096256>Genshin is not mentioned at all in the artlcleand>it is a "Sandbox game" with "virtual events and fans interacting with each other"
>>60096929J-Pop don't have the backing of the fucking government, that's why
>>60096857anon?
>>60096682It's kinda funny that Anya and Reine managed to ignore the Connor lust phase. I mean you could make an argument for Reine being a turbodyke but it's not like she's averse to fleshie male collabs and Anya is... well, Anya.
>>60095181Were are the loliui lewds anyway, fucking gay ass boorus don't have anything and the bot I use on Twitter only tracks Holo chuubas
>>60096962more like you were trolling
>>60096899>holoEarth is Genshin killer That's old news anon. Whenever Yagoo talks about the metaverse he always brings up fortnite and Genshin.
>>60096984>Moaning game buff>1.3KOWARIDA.....
>>60096620>>60096601Now this is just malicious. Fuck off anons with that Ollie is young retarded zoomer bullshit. This is a mean spirited human who wants to destroy her colleagues achievement and security
*FINAL EN COPE TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*>10/8 TALLY (1.000 - 4.999)4.218: Calli (Hololive) | The Battle Cats3.884: Ina (Hololive) | Pikmin 43.718: Uki (Nijisanji) | Suika Game2.768: Ike (Nijisanji) | Just Chatting2.369: Selen (Nijisanji) | #SelenTutor1.978: Rosemi (Nijisanji) | Rose and Camellia1.940: Pomu (Nijisanji) | Pumpkin Panic1.861: Pippa (Phase-Connect) | Just Chatting1.780: Bettel (Holostars) | Spooky's Jumpscare Mansion1.632: Elira (Nijisanji) | Return of the Obra Dinn1.316: Fulgur (Nijisanji) | Spirit Hunter NG1.201: Vantacrow (Nijisanji) | Cyberpunk 20771.170: Hakka (Holostars) | Suika Game1.087: Reimu (Nijisanji) | Suika Game1.047: Shinri (Holostars) | White Day
>>60096857>she's forever 3viewsNumbers in charge of numbers
>>60096984>coomer stream
>>60096493>funny I seem to recall a similar conversation about mainstream appeals a few days back. Good to know it wasn't completely being pulled out of /#/'s assThat part is not mentioned in the article at all as well, see >>60096256 for the other part anon made up.Anon just picked most of the talking points of this thread and pretended to have come from yagoo's mouth, and retards are too retard to even run it through deepl, let alone having done their reps
>>60096991Anya likes Japan and Holos. She's the real deal. She just likes being apart of Hololive without doing any big projects or collabs. Reine is already rich and is cruising from connections.
>>60096955Last I heard manga mogs US comic
No...https://youtu.be/1VHhQmQU_yI
>>60096929K-pop while being cringe itself is not as bad as jpop. Plus the whole idol situation makes it even worse
>>60096964Aruran is desperate as fuck to incline, he even lost fans because of how much of a bitch he was when his fans weren't happy with the redesign.The guy doesn't even get invited to any of the streamer server stuff despite his branch mates constantly getting invited so it seems even more pathetic.
>>60097024Bae once did the same to Mumei too. It's always the runts pulling others down with them
>>60097009See >>60096256 (You)>Genshin is not mentioned at all in the artlcleand>it is a "Sandbox game" with "virtual events and fans interacting with each other"
>>60096586Funny that they actually might be right. Kobo the first full ID holo debuted and surpassed Ollie's subs in less than 6 months, also loved by the indos
>>60096984>RFA>Sub 2kit's over
>>60097059anon Kpop and Jpop has the exact same idol situation. If anything the Korean idol situation is worse because unlike japan Korean idols drive pretty much the entirity of kpop
>>60096955>>60097052I feel like it has more to do with US comic industry being dead since both Marval and DC switch their focus on movie and the comic scene getting infiltrated by ... You know ... THOSE kind of people (Same with gaming)
>>60097067Remember when he said he would do a FUCKING WATCHALONG of Gamma playing on the VCR Rust server (as a hint that he wanted in)?That was sad as fuck
holy shit not even threadreaders itt
>>60097087Are there no old interviews where Yagoo brought up Genshin?
>>60097088Brown monkey hand typed this stinky post
>>60097133Go back to global ollieshitter
>>60096242fuck off from our board, thank you
>>60097165nijiseethe
>>60097133It's the same anon trying to samefag his initial lie in hopes people won't notice
>>60097053Ah, so that's why ...
>>60097167stop trolling faggot
>>60097131manga/comic in particular is dead because digital prints are available now. you only get physicals for a collection.
>>60097167funny how that poster doesn't specify who he's referring to but this guy immediately assumes it's him
>>60097053Lol her worst nightmare is self-dox?
>>60097150Not to my knowledge, considering Genshin is not a sandbox and Holoearth is being referred as a sandbox with events for the longest time
>>60097053Yeah, I could see X (Twitter) fucking up like that.
>>60096955It’s penetrated the market but I wouldn’t call it mainstream yet, mostly because its popularity is heavily skewed toward the younger demographic. Maybe in two decades there will be enough of a generational shift to broaden the popularity of anime and manga and make it truly mainstream in NA
>>60096512>Gura>not a streamer type>doesn't post shortsYeah you are retarded
>Cover : oh you got 1mil ? So what do you want ? >Ollie : give me a homos collab Lmao just kill me already
>>60097104>anon Kpop and Jpop has the exact same idol situation.Are they tho?
>>60096745I know peko-chan doesn't like the ogey face but this one is really cute with its frown. The perfect curvature
>>60097274diy coward
>>60097292yesyes they do
>>60097035from #1 in cripple tally the other day straight down to #1 in cope tally Mori really is strong kek
>>60097257>Cherrypicking exampleOk not ALL Holo, but more and more of them are pushing shorts
>there are dumbfucks trying to defend tricking holos into collabs with homos DESPITE the recorded backlash it ALWAYS bringsFuck off assholes.
>>60097104I’m not saying you’re wrong but I mean more of the perception. K-pop groups have m/f concerts, suggestive dancing with each other etc. While when you think of J-pop you think of idols who can’t interact with men or they get punished
>>60097059>kpoopIt's better than exactly nothing
>>60097367are you talking to yourself?
>>60097274
>>60097379>While when you think of J-pop you think of idols who can’t interact with men or they get punishedand that description does not apply to Kpop, how exactly?
>>60097379there's a reason everyone calls k-pop stars whores and j-pop stars pure, too
>>60097035>3.884: InaIna is reclining. Even though she is doing the same thing she always has. couple of game streams and art streams here and there. strange
>>60097333>pushing shortsHalfassedly and without committing. If Laplus got one thing right is that there is very little chance for someone to succeed at the shorts game while live streaming regularly because the algo will push you out of one of these two incompatible recommendation boxes
>>60097427this is what happens when you spend too much time on /jp
>>60097403Are you having a stroke?
The God of vtubersThe first and the true Queen of Vtuber World
It's unreal that niggas ITT will shitpost a Holo for random Twitter interactions and are now defending fucking Ollie of all people. The girl who legit admitted that she wants to break the barriers between Holos and Starshits.
>>60097482who?
>>60097317I'm still angry to this day about the shits they did to KizunaLike, shit on YAGOO all you want, but at least I know the worst my oshi will have to deal with is collab with a bunch of 3-view males, and NOT getting fucking paraded around like an NFT corpse
>>60097448Oh fuck off, the fact remain that almost all Holo are attempting a steady output of short contents now. Idk why you have to try and say "shorts is LE BAD" using every reasoning possible
>>60097488>>60097478
>>60097491Fuck off chumcuck
>>60097455I am not that anon and I have no interest in kpop or jpop but I have an interest in cosplay and thots in general and boy, the choreography by the mid level k-pop girl groups makes even the backing dancers from burger rappers to blush.
>>60097455Here's your k-pop queen: https://youtu.be/PQjovLrnvVo?t=123
>>60097274The only way I can see Ollie's dream making sense is if she thought she could slap together an OfflineTV pastiche from the holostars and select holos and suddenly everyone would incline to 10K+ because people would have their eyes glued to the screen for the witty bants and subtle sexual tension that would never go anywhere
>>60097542fuck off with your literal who nigger
>>60097546where holo?
>>60097038If it werent for Suika and Neko Neko MC leeching she would idd have her avg ccv in 3view territory.
>Aki, Choco, Toto, Mondo, Beni, RCMain party's pretty set by nowGood to see the best Vspo able to find her gound and incline from this (don't look at her numbers rn tho)
>>60097615are you sure about that?
>>60097600Your cuck will never be popular like Kizuna AI
>>60097416I was taking a break from watching vtubers around the time this tournament was happening, was the tournament a success numbers wise? I know I heard something about Ollie trying to merchandise it and that flopping but I'm just asking about CCV here.
>>60097537I am not saying shorts are bad. I am saying what people consider a shorts victorious strategy and what the girls are doing are two completely different things.People consider a successful shorts channel one that gets a HUGE deal of VOD Views out of the shorts, billions in total, 5M a pop and the accompanying millions of subs that come with that exposure.Holos post shorts since 2021 at least, to a varying degree of commitment, none with enough to have any breakthrough in the algo
>>60097038>>60096984Genuinely, why isn't se streaming on Twitch too?Seems like the kind of crowd she could attract. And if she streamed only 1-2 times a week, it could be calming guerillas.
>>60096929It’s a very similar story to how Japan fumbled what could have been an early lead in the smartphone industry. They make enough money domestically, so they don’t see a need to try to expand much outside their domestic market. So Korea takes that initiative to expand into the global market
>>60097488If you actually believe this chain of events and there aren't bad actors here (like (You)), then you're a lost cause.
why isnt there a black vtuber with a black live2D yet
Someone needs a part time job to stay afloat...
>>60097662who?
>>60097566Is OTV even that popular anymore?
>>60097611Taiwan Yab. But they wouldn't have joined anyway. Who cares.
>>60096929One gets ESG money, the other doesn't.
>>60097424Again m/f concerts are not that foreign in kpop. They have 1v1 sets where they’re basically on top of each other. You obviously have crazy fans who do want that pure experience but it doesn’t seem as deep as J-pop
>>60097686There are several, mostly one views and VTweeters
>>60096984>>60097022>>60097095Dont forget this fairly recent gem were RFA combined with her obesity made her not even last 40min kek
>>60097686Wrong website>www.x.com
>>60097317I find it hard to believe that Ai's roommate did not apply for Hololive and that cover corp wont accept her.What is going on behind the scenes? Did she sign a non compete?
>>60097724some of them are in movies
Better go back to posting King if all you do is fighting over nonsense. I'll go first
>>60095124They don't hire weeb SEA monkeys
>>60097686There are quite a few.Here's a rundown.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QqSLcdA-tc
>>60097740>it's crazyI think watching them grind on stage is the craziness.
>>60097660yes I am
>>60097673>Holos post shorts since 2021 at leastWait shorts have been around for that long?>Pekora started posting short since her break in 2021Oh shit it is. Hololive is quite slow on the uptake of it heh
>>60097771Considering how Kizuna ended up, she's probably in some chinese slave joint thing.
>>60097797buy an ad
>>60097675Game variety and choice matters a hell of a lot on twitch and Ollie has never excelled in that area for some reason
Ollie being the first ever graduation from the ID branch would be fitting, considering she's NijiEN-lite and we know what happened to their ID branch.But I don't really harbor much hate for her, just pity, so it'd still be a sad event.Also I get the feeling she's just doing it for attention, because IDs are a lot closer to each other and the other girls would likely talk her out of it
>>60097823>9kek
>>60097786
>>60097686They exist. Why aren't you watching them instead of being here, you racist?
>>60097488The only one defending her are the crossposting globals
>>60097830He asked I answered.Buy an ad about buying an ad already. Saves you spelling time.
>>60097786dude what the fuck
I know we all hate the guy but maybe it's time we let Connor save Ollie. I know he's been dying to do so but has been afraid the backlash from the fanbase would make things worse. If we welcome him with open arms, he'll come rushing in to bring her up from her downward spiral.
>>60095519They are more an expert mercenary troop for ex military veterans
>>60097833I think she believed she'd rebound at some point after her poor decisions. What she didn't count on is people not inflicting amnesia on themselves.
>>60097823300K VTUBER BYE BYE
>>60097724No. Poki,Lily, DT all left. They have a couple 2k streamers but that’s it
>>60097833>spoilerwould that count as the vtuber equivalent of suicidebaiting?
>>60097870>please watch my video about literal whosKill yourself
>>60097890>>60097759
>Ollie is going to graduateCGDCTchads opinion on this? are you winning?
>>60097823Vent Vent Vent Vent Vent PORU
>>60097890I know you're ironically shitposting, but I still want to stab you in the balls.
>>60097752>Sub 40mins Good don’t need her working too hard
>>60097672>was the tournament a success numbers wiseI'll use Towa as the bellwether as she was the only one to be in both the girls only and the mixed part.>pic relatedCan you guess when the mixed part started?
>>60097786AIIII WE KNEEL TO THE SUPREME VTUBING ENTITY
>>60095498If cover had let Gura be Gura they would have had hits with 100M views.
>>60097672>Tournament host by OllieIdk you guess
>>60097927>LilyBut she still has OTV in her bio.
>>60097951Asking CGDCTs if they care about Ollie graduating is like asking who someone in the US feels about someone in Africa tripping onto a cactus. It's whatever.
>>60097786i kinda tired posting kneel alreadybut here you go, my king
>>60097822>Hololive is quite slow on the uptake of it hehAnon .... they're not "slow on the uptake". Watame shifted he "girigiri warukunai" series to shorts for a while, then changed it right back to regular uploads even if it was getting her some 30% higher numbers.She did it for two reasons1) significantly lower revenue2) the shorts only audience didn't stick aroundJust because they are not doing something it doesn't mean "they're slow", sometimes they just realize it is not worth their while
>>60097567>Nearly 60M viewHow can >we even compete?
>>60098025Does she really? I thought she had left when she moved to YT. Well not like it matters every time I see her streams she’s around 1-2k herself now
>>60097951Well she fucks up her own careerMaybe an office job suits her, she graduated college after all
>>60098074>video is 11 years old>BoA is 36 nowWe just chuckle.
>>60098026>like asking who someone in the US feels about someone in Africa tripping onto a cactus. It's whatever.kek, it would be funny. Both situations
>>60097951She hasn't done anything bad recently but the damage has already been done and it all roots down back to her so it's finally about goddamn time
>>60097951I don't really care as long as she doesn't try to pull in more holos into her homoschemes
>>60098068It's good for farming views and reaching out to new audience thoBut I guess it's just the matter of what the Holo prioritize
>King hat trick over the weekendVtubing is finally healing
>>60096054>>60096584I've never consumed a single piece of im@s media but this girl gets me diamondsgodlike character design
>>60098143>Hololive failed to hit 40k 3 times in a rowTch tch, so this is the power of Hololive when they don't spam gigabuffed gimmick stream or collabs
Today must be pretty boring if 17k is watching Koyo stack fruits before their bedtime
>>60096929Kpop is all carefully crafted product. They took the idol idea from Japan, they combined western pop+rap+sex dance, hired tall and slender women with plastic surgery faces and put them all to dance in sync while singing in Korean + English so they could export the product overseas. They put a lot of focus on visuals and making the women look like hot women in a night club, which would attract normalfags from both genders Japan was always stuck in their old ways of isolating themselves from the world and their short bucket teeth and pigeon legged idols larping as 6yos and singing completely in japanese was never going to attract female audience and non weeb overseasThe same with boy bands, nips boys would all have the dumb anime hairstyle that looked like they went too far with the hair gel. Oh, and they would be short as fuck
>>60095709IRONMOUSE EN QUEEN VEECHUBAFUWAAAAAA
MythRys
>>60097856This is why I can't hate himGuy makes the funniest shit with very few words
>>60098062The only relevant gens(besides the worthless pink whore).
>>60098142>Reaching out new audience
>>60095868> anon doesn't know about the Ollie antis on Facebookyou're too young to be browsing this site boy
>>60097818well you should go check it again
>>60096341I love Fauna but wtf was that strategy. Baby Pit? FFS
>>60098068They’re not worth it revenue wise, but it is worthwhile in attempting to expand your audience and reach. The hope is to convert those short form viewers into viewers of your “main” content. Naturally this conversion rate is low, but if you gain enough short form viewers then eventually it reaches a critical mass where those converts start significantly boosting your main content
>>60098197Just search Higuchi Madoka and Orangemaru. Do yourself a favor and finally have some high-class materials instead of the mediocre vtuber lewds.
>>60098243>No Myth or Council>No Gen 5>No HoloID 2 Shit
>>60098328None of the gens you have cited are relevant, shart.
New Raden cosplayhttps://twitter.com/ayunochan_/status/1710958291386581065https://twitter.com/ayunochan_/status/1710958291386581065https://twitter.com/ayunochan_/status/1710958291386581065
>>60098142>and reaching out to new audience thoDid you miss the part where it was mentioned "they won't stick"?>It's good for farming views In one of these two cases1) you do like Laplus and forfeit completely the idea of live streaming on youtube and do nothing but post shorts and, unlike Laplus, you do it ALL DAY EVERY DAY until the algo kicks in and picks you2) you do like some content creators (see last thread) and put out exceptional quality content AND get lucky to get visibility before the algo kicks inIn either case, for each victor there are hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of creators that attempted and got swamped with mediocre numbers and no gain.Why would a Hololive girl run in that rat race instead of doing something that landed THIRTY EIGHT of their channels over 1M subs?>be cute>live stream>sing and dance>get numbersWhat's the upside?
>>60097923well, MAYBE if she showed genuine, i dunno, remorse over her past actions it'd be one thing. The thing is, everything I see outta her indicates that she's sad not because she thinks she did something bad, but because 'oh my numbers....'. Which just means that caring about her at all is a waste of time, as someone who wants a very clear deletion of the homos for how much goddamn useless drama they inflict.
So did the dogs JP melon stream end up beating mumei?
>>600980681 is right and she had talked about, but she never said anything about 2.Shorts is a lot like twitter numbers. the people that gets reached are casuals which are very unlikely to be regulars, they're tourists at most that maybe shows up for very large streams like how nijiJP works
>>60098413Now show us the late 2019/early 2020 era.
>>60096769Wasn't that part of the story though? Like, back in 2022 she was saying it was supposed to be a minecraft event, only at the very end she changed it to Apex.
>>60098217>Japan was always stuck in their old ways of isolating themselves from the world and their short bucket teeth and pigeon legged idols larping as 6yos and singing completely in japanese was never going to attract female audience and non weeb overseasSo why isn't things behaving the same when it comes to Vtubers?
>>60098143Don't you kneel to the King yet, rabbit of blue?
>>60098413Detroit was such a fun arc, bring it back.
pekora is a leech
>>60098217So, basically.>soul versus soullessGotcha.
>>60097680>They make enough money domestically,which is hilarious considering they are not only a heavily import based economy, but they are also the only economy in the entire world that has not grown or shrunk for 30 years. If their domestic consumption really was enough to support their entire economy they wouldn't be in thier current situation
>>60096857I used to watch Ollie (and Reine and sometimes Anya) before Council debut. Now there's just no time. There's always an EN live or VODs to watch
Reminder when Nijikeks tried to claim that HoloJP is top heavy and entirely reliant on a few first army members?Lmao. When was the last time some Niji outside of Kuzuha got a gold?
>>60098322See >>60098403>but if you gain enough short form viewersEven Laplus, one of the dumbest girls in this business, understood that you can't do that while live streaming regularly on your channel.Everything hinges on this gambit>forfeit your live stream audience to chase the shorts audienceThe Holo formula is much simpler>stream>be cute>tag along with the other girls>get, as a group, numbers above any other group of corporate live streams in the whole planet
>>60098467>japanese was never going to attract female audience and non weeb overseas>womenFAGGOTS ARENT WOMEN
>>60098217kpop is dead now, though
>>60098372Not as good as some previous ones. But Raden has a pretty good aesthetics so most cosplays have been decent
>>60098467because of anime infusion + let's plays
>>60098465I don't think so, ID actually did their minecraft tournament, i just mix both up when writing and didn't proofread
>>60098530The doggos already has 100+ streams and the other advent are active too3 is a magic number
>>60098143What is it, 10 king golds for the year so far? Truly unstoppable.
>>60098557wdhmbt
>>60098563So the Japanese are smarter and faster to integrate than Koreans? And Koreans can only succeed if they steal Japanese ideas and bastardize them to sell in the US mainstream. Well, if you want to be racist like that, sure...
>>60098557>kpop is dead nowsource? i see that blank pink everywhere
>>60096857Oh pulling the beggar card eh? Smart.
>>60098217>Kpop is all carefully crafted product.I wish I was one if the few who fucks and creampies all the kpop girls
>Watching VOD of FWMC karaoke>They don't do anything while singing geddanSeriously?
Ngl Bae’s kinda ugly bros
>>60098557Because they were too retarded to send their biggest band to a useless military conscription for 2 years when a guy playing lol got exempted
>>60098403>they won't stickThey will convert albeit at a smaller rate, otherwise holos and Cover wouldn't post shorts to begin with after 2 years of deliberation.They're just casual audience like most of their twitter audience. Heck if shorts has better conversion rate than twitter, would you be schizoing Holo members that tries to cultivate twitter audience too?
>>60098467well for starters they are doing it on youtube, a platform that can be accessed and navigated by anyone on this planet instead of sticking it on NND or worse, their own proprietary platform that bans IPs ouside of Japan from connecting because japan can't into DDOS protection.I'm serious, if it wasn't for NND shooting themselves in the foot and forcing everyone to move to youtube out of neccessity, I bet you hololive today would be known as some obscure japanese band only known by one or two weebs
>>60095868No Matter what you think of Ollie, that was a waste of a 1m wish. Should have wish for an ID concert or something to help out her branch
>>60098463Not now
>>60098643Post trends faggot.>>60098632I'm loath to post NPR because they're a bunch of faggots, but...>https://www.npr.org/2023/04/08/1167946578/kpop-bts-hiatus#:~:text=TED%20Radio%20Hour-,K%2Dpop%20is%20in%20a%20downturn%20and%20BTS'%20hiatus%20may,to%20pick%20itself%20back%20up.The only way they keep up now is to sell out harder, and that's a feedback loop.
>>60098705>This is bait idc I’ll kill you mate
>>60098557unfortunately while you might love for that to happen just because Pooh clamped down on foreign media's access to china doesn't make Kpop dead
>>60097051> She just likes being apart of Hololive without doing any big projects or collabsAnd would you look at that? Just being that way for a year (+appealing to her gachi otaku JP nature) was enough to get her a massive incline.
would you?
>>60098632Fucking hell ... Yeah maybe this board DO have a severe case of number brainrot
>>60098557Anon somehow memory hole the past few months when every en girls was singing cupid by fifty fifty.
>>60098760>Post trends faggot.so no source? kys
>>60098713Well, that, and COVID is dead. They got a boost same as everyone in overseas entertainment.>"I am afraid that one day, people will not listen to K-pop anymore," Park Ji-won, CEO of K-pop powerhouse HYBE, said during an interview with Bloomberg News last week.>He added that some people are already concerned about the possible downfall of K-pop, which achieved exponential growth during the COVID-19 pandemic.>korea times
>>60098539the formula is overdone and holos need to constantly find a new one if they plans to keep adding members every year.
>>60098713anyone who thinks that BTS going away would kill kpop doesn't understand the kpop model well enough. Within 2 months there'd be fifteen other boybands filling their shoes and all the former bts fans would move on
>>60098831>literally ignored the source in the post he said had no sourceAll you can expect from dickless homobeggars, I guess.It's not MY opinion kpop is a downward trend, it's the CEOs'.
>>60098705id fuck a woman like koyori because i am ugly as shit and tried multiple times but failed
Ollie situation:https://files.catbox.moe/1s7nj5.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/1s7nj5.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/1s7nj5.mp4
>>60098798I'll be honest I'm not seeing a massive incline between the two, especially considering even after your so called "massive incline" she's still getting roughly the same numbers as ollie deos
>>60098869The kpop model is the same as it is for all locusts. Copy, derive, sell to US. It's overdone and people are tired of it. No more novelty.
and the thread died the moment that video link got posted
>>60098728>after 2 years of deliberation.I would hate to have to scrape all of the Holo girls for their short to make a chart showing they’re posting at more or less the same frequency since 2021, maybe with a small recent uptick CLEARLY motivated by Marine recent streak>and in a futile cargo cult attempt because her viewers are coming from elsewhere, including her shorts viewers >Heck if shorts has better conversion rate than twitter, would you be schizoing Holo members that tries to cultivate twitter audience too?If to succeed they had to reduce their YouTube activities, yes I would.
>>60098733Not as big of waste as kiara and ame's wishes
>>60098869Not a single group managed to replace their void after a year since they stopped their group activities.
>>60098760>"K-pop exports hit a new high last year," says Kim Jin-woo, the head researcher at Circle Chart, one of the most influential Korean popular music charts. "But nevertheless, there are signs of slowdown.">this is somehow "kpop is dead"you couldnt even read your clickbait article
>>60099024>ame's wish>wastefuck you
>>60099005Thread's been a fucking zombie since people were astroturfing Ollie.
kek imagine losing to mori of all people
>>60099024wdym, ame has infinite wishes
>>60098403>what's the upsideFor Cover, diversification. which they've been attempting to do since at least last year. If you ask me I rather have them pursue these low chance shorts bet rather than debuting another attempt of male streamers.For Laplus, she can't stomach streaming regularly, not even a great streamer to begin with.
>>60099061more like everyone interested in the discussion took a four minute break to listen to that videowhich if nothing else at least proves that most people talking about it aren't complete trolls
>the Moom is active on twitterNice
>>60099048I did read it. I told you to post trends. You didn't. This is #s, not the general, and we watch for extrapolations here.You also ignored every single thing the interviewee said to get to that cherrypicked quote.
>>60099070timezone debuff
ribs eroi
>>60098632Bts or blackpink used to get 100M in a day
>>60098899Remember to be supportive of her and other male collabers if they choose to graduate,#HerChannelHerChoice
>>60099070Mumei won though
>>60099094I think people, for once, saw something that wasn't shitposting from crossthreaders and wanted to be #s again.
>>60098298I can make Kiara a 5view if I go back far enough to fit my agenda too anon.What is the reason to bring up july (which was a huge month for holo overall) when its fucking october now? Cuz it fits your narrative better than present date hmm?
>>60099070So are we in agreement that Mumei is the Gura replacement?
>>60099179because I brought up august>>60097660 and september >>60097038 and you niggers decided it didn't count
>>60099209>So are we in agreement that Mumei is the Gura replacement?When she hit 2mil subs, then maybe.
>>60099012Twitter might be adding a streaming function soon, so you're either fucking retarded or a coward if you don't think being first mover there have no value compared to yet another YouTube stream that has shown audience saturation in years now.
>>60099061>Thread's been a fucking zombieI chuckled >>60099140NCT is nowhere near as big as either of them
>>60099061We had Aki vs King kino and Kanae vs King comedy for some time but no, faggots just had to bring up a fucking shitter ID that brings absolutely no noteworthy numbers
>>60099234I really hope retard won't bought into the Elon viewership, because Elon himself are boosted to beyond the Heaven
>>60098899>YETAlso she will never succeed in making a solo concert holy kek
>>60099229Schizo
>>60097936>being a bitchy cunt randomlyYou do you sister.
>>60099155This, but to everyone else as well>:3#HerChannelHerChoice
>>60099209No one can replace Gura. Chumbuds would rather leave Hololive than watch another holo. Mumei would need to create a fanbase that is outside the box, hits 5view, and fuck's off completely when she's not streaming to replace Gura and have to clout Gura does.Not impossible, but very improbable since she's already cooled off and there isn't a global buff (COVID) in effect right now.
>>60098501Is your whore too busy with Kosaka these days?
>>60099012You don't need a tool, Cover has explicitly said in interviews that they're pushing short form content to expand their audience, especially female demographics. it's a confirmed thing.
>>60099209We’d have to see what Gura numbers look like after getting raids and every funnel
https://youtu.be/FihY947qwAI?t=7415>Dragon Fauna crying over Pulisic's goalAmerica bros... you won.
>>60098632Wasn't this soulless garbage astroturfed on twitter trends by trannies working there? I've never seen anything kpop-related since Elon took over
>calls jailbirds cucks>refuses to elaborate>graduate
>>60099342I mean, Cover says a lot of shit and doesn't follow through on it. They're also making some sort of Second Life clone or whatever. Until they hold out on it and make it a real thing that doesn't involve telling their talents, "If you want to please do?" Eh.
>>60099374HOLY BASEDI KNEEL, Zombie
>>60098899When was this from?
>>60099275numbers is still numbers, and Twitter's adrev is massive according to monetized account. Way better than twitch and tiktok and comparable to YouTube.
Wasn't Ollie the one who said that she wanted to change Hololive culture "for the better" which involved breaking down the boundaries?
>>60099365That's because he fired the curators of the japanese twitter trends and all the j-pop stuff came back.
>>60099410She's an idiot, please understand
>>60099410I mean, the boundaries are already breaking down, so in the end ... Did she really lost?
which one is the leech again
>>60099344Of course we did also Lira posting? Never thought I’d see that
>>60099405probably 1 week ago if it was mengen
>>60099335>Bait nousagi.Doesn't work>Quick samefagging to bait 35PLol
>>60099445>divisions have never been higherWhere are Vesper and Magni, btw?
I love beating the absolute shit out of Shiori's fatass
>>60099410>change Hololive culture "for the better"she wanted to destroy Hololive, to turn it into something like Nijisanji
>>60099209Gura not streaming is the new normal, hololive doesn't need her.
>>60099405today mengen i believejust end about 1 hour ago
>>60097797https://youtu.be/2QqSLcdA-tc?t=27> The concept of VTubing is sick coz the options with how you present yourself are limitlesshttps://youtu.be/2QqSLcdA-tc?t=244> Black VTubers rightfully have an issue with a non PoC using a Black model
>>60099466I would rather kill myself than having to falseflag as one of these subhumans.
>>60099497>she wanted to destroy Hololive, to turn it into something like NijisanjiWhy be redundant?
>>60099342>Short form content to expand their audience, especially female demographicsThese 2 things have no correlation. I feel like Cover somehow are confused between "Big shorts view" with "Popular with female". Probably because of Marine
i am proud to say that my oshis have intact hymens
>>60099497this make me remember her collab with selen and zeta
>>60099410She sacrificed herself at the alter of eceleb worship and homo saviorfaggotry so that other, better holo's, who are a little smarter have never gone down that path
>>60099410Talk shit get hit
>>60099566too bad it didn't stop Kronii and Ame. i wonder if they're going to follow Ollie footsteps
>>60099445The cracks in the wall are being paved over, and even some of the holos who made those cracks in the first place are doing the paving.
>>60098899>it was a mengen leak>Ollie usually has less than 200 people watching her members streamsYou're already filth for leaking member stuff, but from such a small group?Ollie either has anties embedded among her hardcore members, or they're all just absolute dregs. Drama sluts that just want to feel good about posting shit first, regardless if it hurts "their oshi".
>>60099421So that's why loli is often trending too nowadays kek good riddance trannies
>>60098899>40 seconds in>penis's and vaginaswhat
>>60099410Well she is actually winning since JP been bending over to collab with e-celeb lately, and it bring huge numbers too
>>60099566What pisses me off about Ollie's approach isn't even the homobegging. IDGAF. She wants to? Go for it. I won't watch it, but I know some twitter faggots will. It's completely 100% whatever.What they WANT is to FORCE ME to watch it. What they WANT is to force the ones I WATCH to collab. THAT pisses me off. That's why she got so much backlash.They could have easily built their own independent fanbases that watch collabs. They instead demanded to break the original one. Instead they impaled themselves on our unicorn horns.Fuck 'em.
>>60099445At most HoloJP reverted to it's pre-chink out state where they're no longer getting avoided by people due to the Chinese market shunning them. HoloEN lost the 2 major proponents of Fleshtuber and Star x Holo collabs and HLZNTL the cross Stars and Holo company project is dead in the water.
>>60095087FWMC caught up to EliraReGloss inclining
>>60098217>Kpop is all carefully crafted productOGEY SISTER
>>60099445Try asking Mori about homos to see if the boundaries really broke down
>>60099472>ENIrrelevant. Look at JP and how much they've been interacting with males lately.
>>60098510They needed more fertile land to support any more growth. Imperial Japan was right, the only move forward for a tiny island nation like Japan was annexing other nations.
>>60099663Yeah. "J-Twitter is healing," was a trend for months after Elon's takeover. All the Korea stuff disappeared off it at once. Made it real obvious shit was forced.
>>60099548cease such slander to my (pillow) princess
>>60099410>The oneSo did Coco, Suisei, Matsuri, Fubuki, Sora, Marine, Pekora... several others in some context. Each having a different vision.
>>60099709KEK the left looks like Sid from ice age.
>>60099762No shot idk about the other but PekoMari have never say something about "shaping Hololive culture"
>>60099658you should know by now that 5 dollars is not going to stop shit. it happened to Kronii before and it'll happen again. all it takes is one person
>>60099762At least with most of them it involved something that actually benefits them, the other girls, or the company as a whole rather than whatever the hell Ollie did.
>>60099658It's someone from the catalog that subscribed just for the clip.
>>60099658Don't thank me, thank membership gifts
>>60099665>graduation is a more severe word than penis hereWhat? She's completely right.
>>60099658If your oshi keeps making drama about 'rocking the hololive boat' over and over again, dramafags will stick to her like glue for fresh new scoop. Who would've thought?
>>60099707>FWMCGood on them I don’t watch them but they seem good >ReGloss Good I haven’t watched Ao but the rest are cute. Rurika English is better than I thought
>>60099658>using Met for your pathetic ollie faggotry
>>60099707Why is a JP gen doing worse than an EN gen?
>>60099867>dramaSo true sis
>>60099665that the typical ollie experience
What really went wrong with ID2?
>>60099846Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean "you" specifically, you just provided context. But the poster from a few hours ago that came to the catalog, as soon as she uttered graduation, to make bait threads.
>fat>brownHow shit get she get?!
>>60099963
>>60097933it's the same idea I suppose, so sure
>post deleted>Thread about it is still upJannies? If you're gonna do a shit job do a consistently shit job
>>60099973H-HOT!!!
>>60099973The language of the gods
>>60099973>fat???
>>60099973Brown?Are you british anon? Were you can camouflage yourself in a snow storm by just being naked?
>>60099795Yes they have, but in the context of Nijisanji girls collabs.A LOT of the JP girls talk about the perceived Hololive culture if you can actually understand them.Subaru was one that did it back in 2020-2021. She wanted to be an idol, but didn't want Hololive to be seen as THAT kind of idol group (black).
>>60098705
>>60099973>ESLAlso that's her bicep from a close up front facing angle. She's not literal ham hands like a certain person
>>60098323my nigga I have his entire Madoka collection and like 300+ CG artjust wish there were uncensored versions
>>60099973(me)Fuck it I'm not deleting
>>60100093
>>60100093>>60099973Best post itt
>>60098899>I have already accomplished everything I wanted in Hololivekek
>>60099658You really thought mengan stuff is safe? Retardios. Leaks happened from EN, JP all the time and now ID is no different. It's just a classic case of "fans" shitting where they eat.
>>60098798>>60098929I'll help you two by posting this combined chart>90 DAYS TRUE AVERAGE, ANYA, OLLIENotice both of their 3D showcases are in range meaning their average is inflated by that one stream.With that said, it looks like Anya bounced back from a deep well back in June and managed to squeeze a better incline from the extra exposure, and now, for more than 2 months, she soundly outranks Ollie.The greatest tragedy in this chart is not this tho, but the height Ollie fell from in August 2021.It was a mix of her straying too far away from the box, her many yabs and the debut of IRyS and Council, the real EN instead of EN-lite
>>60099973>clearly an orange tinted lightAre people just stupid or trolling?
>>60100093What the fuck are those sausage fingers, its fucking impressive to see that on a non-american girl
>>60100093I didn't know that was possible in the third world
>So is Shiori the only HoloEN who has no images of her face floating around
>>60098899> there won't be any graduation announcements> hold your horses> I'm not graduating yet> there won't be any white blank papernothingburger
>>60099209But Gura would have got 25-30k with it……
>>60100191>thoughtYou might want to read again. We see menge stuff all the time, just calling out the scum.>>60100006of course.
>>60100261Nice spin kek
>>60100261that's a cope and you know it
Now we only need Mori/Ollie Mario party collab to seal the deal
>>60099717what are you living in, the 1600s? fertile land hasn't been a major limiter on economic growth since the agricultural revolution. Japan's main problem is that they love to put artificial barriers between them and the outside world when it comes to trade and economy.
>>60100093There was some air in the right glove...
>>60100261Magni said the same thing!
>>60100093Theres no fucking way please tell me ollie is just wearing multiple layers of gloves
>>60100261>yet
>on lunch time>check catalog>fuck lot of hate waves toward holoIDwtf happen? theres no way its just because of ollie, there must be another thing that make them seeth this much
>>60100293already didthe curse just got activated now it seems
>>60099076>diversification>>60099342>explicitly said in interviews that they're pushing short form content to expand their audience, especially female demographicsI read that too and I had a completely different interpretation, maybe because of my N999 status and distrust of translation tools.I read it as>Q: Tanigo, how come you don't have a female audience?>A: Well, we are getting one through Tiktok and short form contentwhich was not a lie, but which could as well be >well, we are getting one through MARINE AND WHATEVER MARINE IS DOING RIGHTI didn't read it as it being disclosed as the strategy, but as what is currently netting the best results>and the answer is still "Marine and whatever Marine is doing"
>>60100325t.nijifaggot
>>60100325It's still Jakarta hours.They hate themselves.
>>60100220welcome to numbers
>>60100307>artificialYou mean reasonable.And that's a good thing.
>>60100252Honestly very surprising, with how many antis she has you figure someone would've dug something up by now
>>60100293Ollie has survived Mori mario party twice.
>>60000000alright who got it
>>60099658>hardcore membersAnon, membership is no longer a gatekeep since the days of gifted
>>60100320Well he was right in a way. He never did any graduation streams.
>>60100378yeah anon it's totally reasonable to put so many barriers between people wanting to give you money for your products and you actually receiving that money, so much so that a healthy culture of piracy emerged around your biggest cultural export simply because people literally cannot pay for it
>>60100332>soul claimed>body remainedFitting for the theme.(And her popularity.)
>>60100410>gatekeepit was never a gatekeep. if you don't want something get leaked the only way is to keep it to yourself
>>60100354>"Marine and whatever Marine is doing"They got this part wrongWhat got female audience is not shorts, but things that would make the female audience want to make shorts content of, in this case catchy colorful MV with a choreography for them to do
>>60099658No one feels sorry when it happens to Gura tho~ Even the homos broke down and quit with stuff Gura, Mori and Kiara have had to deal with since the start
>>60100436>Why don't you want to be like China and Africa?!Did you post this from an iPhone built off of child sweatshop labor?They're doing just fine. What makes you seethe is you can't use economic leverage to push your insane bullshit.
>>60100093That's not her hand, it's just a MICHELIN GUY COSPLAY
>>60100320He went further than that
>>60100261> I'm just saying that.. I guess..> I'm not going to think long term, I'm not going to stick long term to the.. to Hololive> So many people do so many amazing things> No one's really asking for anything, not you guys not the management, not Cover> No one actually asks me to do anything superb> but I do feel left behind, and I do feel that.. I can't grow anymore> and I do also feel that I can't go back to the old, cheerful Ollie that constantly makes events left and right> So if I do get the chance, I think I might just retire> A zombie is not supposed to be "live".. get it?> *awkward laugh*it's a question of when, not if
Post some tallys already
>>60100487yeah anon that's why they are still kicking themselves over the korean media industry stealing the entire show out from under them when Jpop and jdramas were both in a much better position to explode
>>60100475Literally tens of thousands of people did feel sorry for them.But I guess it's hard to notice if you only get your info from /here/.
>Kronii voiced Vshojo new debut>Ollie talked about graduatingKson got some big fishs
>>60100307All small nations like Singapore and South Korea are starting to show economic stagnancy anon, they're hovering between 0.5-1% YoY, just like Japan.The issue with few arable lands is that people concentrate on metropolis which makes higher cost of living for people living there which causes emigration to other cheaper nations and a lack of foreign investment due to high costs.
>>60100500Anon… you think Hololive is long term for all these girls?
>>60100547vertical farming will save us
>>60100522ESG stole the show, Korea didn't.US has imbedded itself into the Korean economy like a parasite (and the corruption runs all the way down to the bones), and bullshit like curating trends and interfering with communication gimped Japan.But, ask yourself a question. Why didn't Korea take over the VTubing scene? Exactly. ESG hasn't touched VTubing yet.
Different arm and hand angles for comparison. A thing to keep in mind is that Ollie's cuffs seem to closely hugging her wrists also (when she pulls her cuffs up in the video theirs little to no empty space).
>>60100500> and I do also feel that I can't go back to the old, cheerful Ollie that constantly makes events left and rightThanks god for that
>>60100574Maybe for the lower tier girlsBecause the top girls like First Army or Second Army still have way more they could do with the power Hololive grant them
>>60100574it is for all those 2 views who manage to get infor someone who already have established fanbase beforehand, then yes
>>60100547People congregating in cities has nothing to do with the availability of arable land, especially nowadays when a group of twenty people can grow enough food to feed half a million people. Even if South korea suddenly gained the landmass of china it won't make them magically start setting up farmsteads all over, this isn't the 1800s anymore
>>60100500>> No one actually asks me to do anything superb>> but I do feel left behind, and I do feel that.. I can't grow anymore
>>60100509It's gone m8.
>>60100574to all the girls that I'm watching, yeahnone of them want to retire, they want to stay for 10 years at least tatacaw