/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>see you next year
wasn't a joke

>>59788294
Gonna cry? She doesn't owe you anything. She can stream whenever she wants. Deal with it.

she has an exemption to not work.
they only need her to be 'alive' (not graduated) so they can sell merchandise. they literally dont care at this point if she streams.

>>59788294
She's done anon. She moved on already. She isn't even going to graduate, because she isn't trying to move elsewhere or do anything else either.
She's done with vtubing
She's done with streaming
She's done with content creation altogether.

>>59788574
not OP.
Fans don't owe her anything.
They can complains and leave.
Deal with it.

Its pretty obvious Gura is burnt out from all the idol work she has to do and that she'd be much happier working im in a less restrictive company.
I give her a year tops until she moves to vshojo

>>59788718
this, she can be on Cover's payroll permanently as their mascot and still rake in the money

>>59788294
She's dead anon. You have to let go. It's not your fault.

I thought she came back to streaming?

>>59789066
vshojo begging. lol

>>59789066
Chumcucks are always quick to cope about how much "work" gura is doing behind the scenes. All the "projects" shes supposedly working on. None of this shit ever materializes, she never talks about it, and there's no proof besides your inability to accept that she can't even handle a part-time job, let alone a full-time streaming gig. I'm sure if you total her working hours all years she's worked less like maybe 15 hours a week

>>59788294
some real, sick, twisted fucking shit

>>59788294
If you cry about it enough on social media she'll come back for a stream and chumbuds will say APPOLOGIZE. or KNEEL. And then the cycle will start over.

She doesn't care about her fans, and they don't care. It's fascinating.

>>59789187
just to try and kill advent and bijou. then she disappeared again.

>>59788718
she has a husband and kid now, she has no time to stream for manchildren anymore

Gura is semi retired already. Management can't have her completly gone so they let her do whatever she wants as long as she shows up for the big events and maybe 1 or 2 streams a year.

I bet she had a kid. Hard to stream when you have a kid who might run in on you at any time screaming your name

>>59789420
Unironically she definitely got a long term boyfriend
>Young
>Talented
>Rich
>Pretty
No fucking way is she single

She's a full time mom now with twins and another child on the way

>>59789328
>will say APPOLOGIZE. or KNEEL
Not anymore.
I'm going to ensure that everyone is reminded of this shit. Next time she starts her stream I'll make sure no one forgets.

>>59788294
(You)

>>59789470
>talented

>>59788373
she has to stream before the end of the year or her membership will be removed.
>this is not a convincing argument that she will.

>>59788574
People who use this argument are retards, it's like saying fans can't complain about a football player being dog shit just because they aren't the ones paying his salary

>>59789066
You said this too since 2021 LMAO

>>59788294
total chumpedo DEATH

If I made this much passive income, even with all the Youtube and Cover cuts, I'd soft retire too

>>59788574
If you have a membership there is the expectation of streams

>le gura doesn't owe you anything
Correct. She doesn't. But don't you find it insulting that she doesn't WANT to give back to her community? Shouldn't she be thankful for all your support and love and want to give you guys entertaining streams?

>>59788574
Hello Darkmaze

>>59789470
>Pretty

>>59789577
No gag reflex is a talent.

I just want her to graduate at this point, stop giving her fans false hope that she'll eventually come back regularly but instead just fuckin leave and get it over with. Its clear she hates this job, yeah its easy money but that's obviously not enough for some people.

>>59789772
said who? go back to pretending to understand the dying language larper kun

>>59789577
>>59789875
Look as much as it's fun to dog in Gura she is, unironically pretty talented. Singing, dancing, a quick wit, etc. Shed easily be able to charm a boyfriend. As for pretty I suppose we have no evidence of that.

>>59789875
I really wanna know what type pf women you fags meet that you dont consider her pretty. Almost every holo is way above the average beauty of the women around me.

Imagine how much supachat revenue shes missed out on. All the dead subs and expired members. She's thrown away literally millions of dollars with this shit

>>59789470
I was a hardcore mmo player and whenever a really active dude disappeared completely it was because he got a girlfriend.

>>59788294
You must be new here, welcome to /vt/

>>59790442
>Gura or her boyfriend consider streaming to be a form of emotionally cheating so she only streams exactly as much as required by her contract
>Won't breach contract and quit because of some sort of early closure fee
>Is just waiting for her contract to expire so she can leave

>>59790440
stop it anon, this doesn't fit in with the sisters' narrative

>"No she didn't purposefully stream over Advent, stop being an anti!"
Meanwhile Gura's streaming hours in 2023 before Advent debuted: 54
Gura then put in almost another 50 hours of streaming in about 2 weeks during Advent's debut. Surely this wasn't to keep her chumbuds from moving on to a brand new branch

Why don't you email Cover if you're so curious.

>>59788294
>What the fuck is going on behind the scenes in HoloEN
Gura is fighting with management but the other Hololive members can't say anything without breaking their NDAs. Same reason everyone has to act like Vesper and Magni both decided to quit for no reason after several weeks of radio silence. Kronii making connections with VShojo is just another random coincidence in the EN branch.

>>59790659
You gotta admit chumcucks, the sudden timing, frenzy of activity, and complete ghosting after the debut period are EXTREMELY suspicious.

Lazy western zoomers gunna laze

>>59788718
good shes shit

>>59788294
If she banned the word "stream" in her chat and superchat

what do you expect

If the company tells them not to peep about it they won't.

Gura had problems ever since she was instructed to move to........ JAPAAAAAAN.
Kiara did various fellatio to Gura to keep her out from quitting but guess what,

she no care :)

>>59790713
>Le management dispute
Anything to make it not guras fault

>>59790659
What even was their defense that she wasn't purposefully streaming over Advent? Cause the fact that she literally put in more hours within those 2 weeks compared to the prior months in 2023 is extremely telling.

>>59790713
EN management has been COMPLETELY overhauled since she started ghosting. You're telling me not only did she have issues with the old branch management, but the entirely new branch management also? Come on, at this point it's just gura that's the issue.

>>59788294
She makes money whether she streams or not, so why should she stream? She got bored of the job after a year and is just collecting free money now. Blame the dumb simps who still give her money, incentivizing her laziness.

>>59790836
>she isn't overlapping out of malice, she is actually streaming tocadvertisr and bring more people to check out Advent

>>59789777
Yes, those statements suggest she's incredibly ungrateful, I will never understand why people are so adamant about that.

>>59790968
*to advertise
Fuck me.

>>59790968
The most blatant chumcuck cope. Chumpedos only ever watch gura, she has the most insular fanbase in EN.

>>59789581
Every time this has been brought up of late, in regards to Chama actually, there's been a few replies calling it a myth. I've never bothered to actually look up the regulations.

>>59790968
i would believe this with ease if she wasn't fucking doing 7 hour sessions.
she had metrics she needed to hit before contract, advent was just there.

>>59790968
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5TqrhGt3CA
"I'm not gonna enter this is their special moment"

>>59790726
You will never know if management told her to stop (because she's an attention blackhole) or not, but one thing you will soon know is that Advent is an overrated gen which 100% deserves to be thwarted by any mean

>>59789066
This idol work she's so busy doing, where is it?
Clearly it must be a lot more then any other JP talent since they consistantly put out videos on the main channel, 3D lives, song covers and manage to stream at the same time

>>59791098
Furthermore if this was true why didn't she stream for an hour or two then raid into advent. I know gura thinks the raid button doesn't existent come on

>>59791154
>She's totally working on projects dummy, they have her going to the he studio and practicing like every day. You'll see!

>>59791098
Isn't it funny that her streaming stopped at almost exactly 100 hours? Wonder if that's a minimum streaming metric in their contract...

>>59790968
No way those people actually believed in the "muh advertisement" defense. Most chumbuds aren't even Hololive fans, they are Gura fans who don't watch anyone else in Hololive.

>>59790968
That cope was hilarious since cumpedos only watch Gura and no one else.

>>59791272
Also funny how her last 3 streams, aka all corpro mandated ones between new outfit/anniversary, were all around the same length of about 1 hour and you could clearly tell that she was stalling for time for like the first 50 minutes then wrapped it up quickly during the last 10 minutes each time.

>>59790563
In what way? Gura has never been a superchat queen, she's always gotten more from merch and members, and she doesn't need to stream for that.

>>59791046
YT has a pause thing that it'll knock you into if you violate some rules and if it doesn't get fixed over 4 months then you lose all members.
I think the have to continue streaming thing is just a misunderstanding of that, YT doesn't give a fuck why would it not collect money.

>>59789066
vshojo won't be around in a year.

>>59790968
54 hours streamed in 212 days (Jan 1st - Jul 31st)
Vs
47.5 hours streamed in 17 days (Aug 1st - Aug 17th)

That translates to a 1096% increase in activity

>>59788294
she is being doing it for a whole year, if you don't get it by now there is no hope for you

>>59788294
she is involved with many projects behind the scene

>>59790968
>>59791499

>>59788294
I feel like we should do something about it. We can't keep letting her get away with it. I suggest that we spam sc in her genmates' streams (especially Ame) and ask her where Gura is. They're close friends, I'm sure she knows something and we deserve clarity

>>59791511
I wanted to go with usual "yeah me"
Then realized I'm not even interested in her in that way anymore.
It's over.

>>59791474
You're a fool of you think her merch sales and membership metrics haven't declined.

>>59791584
this post couldn't be me

>>59788294
>What the fuck is going on.
404 answer not found. What's going on with Gura is a complete fucking mystery. If she doesn't want to be a vtuber anymore then why hasn't she quit? If she only cares about money then how come she's leaving so much money on the table by not streaming? We'll never know unless she tells us.

>>59791499
It really cannot be more blatant than this, chumbuds can cope all they want but the facts speak the truth. Gura barely streamed in 2023 before Advent, but when Advent debuted she immediately started to stream (even starting streams at the same time as some Advent members) so much to the point of nearly doubling her total hours in 2023 within just August. But then after Advent's debut hype ran out, she immediately stopped and has only thus done streams forced by management.

>>59788294
>NO ONE is talking about potential drama
No fucking shit? The fact that she hasn't mentioned anything, and no one else has either, means theres actually a problem behind the scenes. Whether thats a real problem like disagreements with management, or personal issues, thats up in the air. Given how sporadic her streaming schedule, I'd assume she either hates streaming, or is having a fuck ton of real life issues (possibly as a result of getting so popular)

She recorded stuff for the Umisea Animate collab

>>59791538
God damn Gura is fuckin ruthless, Bijou definitely is the closest comparison to her in Advent so for Gura to overlap this much is frightening

>>59789470
>Young

>>59791648
What's so hard to understand? She's getting money for doing nothing, that's basically the ideal in life so why should she quit?

>>59791511
Like what?

>>59791764
>B-but it's HER TIMESLOT

>>59788574
Horribly shit take. To say something like is incredibly pompous and egotistical. You must be a streamer who doesn't give a fuck about your fanbase or worse, the biggest yesman imaginable.
I cannot fathom to begin how someone would support this type of behavior.

>>59791474
ok, assuming she's in it for the money
>reading superchats regularly is hard
holy cope
>she doesn't love money enough to try a little bit harder
holy cope
>she wants the loyal chumbuds to hate her
holy cope

>>59791648
>Why not quit
Likely an early release clause in her contract, probably some steep fees. If she wants to quit she's probably waiting for the contract to expire and who knows how long of a term she signed up for.

>>59790944
>She makes money whether she streams or not, so why should she stream?
Because she's taking a major financial hit from not streaming. But she doesn't seem to care about making money at this point.

>>59791648
She can literally just sit on her ass and do nothing for months at a time and the money just keeps rolling in. Why the fuck would she quit? That's the dream job right there.

>>59791499
You have to understand, for her this is a lot of hard work.

>>59791898
It's not about making the most possible money, it's about making money by doing nothing.

>>59791499
>>59791538
I'm a chumbud and don't blame her for this, it's ugly and could have been handled better but it's her fucking paycheck on the line

Shes busy playing outlast trials

>>59791999
She wouldn't need to feel threatened by a new EN gen if she pretended to give a single fuck about her fans outside of shill streams.

>>59791999
Maybe if she actually streamed regularly, like she was doing in August during Advent debut, and also actually communicated with her fans, then maybe she wouldn't feel so threatened by a new EN wave

>>59791999
>Don't blame her
Yesbuds like you are entirely how this behaviour gets enabled and encouraged

>>59791999
>I'm a chumbud

>>59792109
it's a business

Since she won't say anything we can only theorize. I think the likely real answer is that she just doesn't feel like streaming anymore most of the time and also doesn't really need it for money, but hasn't quit because she might feel like streaming again sometime and/or enjoys the adulation she still gets. And Cover won't put pressure on her to stream more because they don't want her to actually quit, since her merch still sells and she's still a good draw for events.

>still a chumbud in October 2023
No hope for you

>>59792202
I will always be a chumbud

>>59791914
The less and less she streams, the less and less money rolls in. So the "Gura only cares about money" rrat doesn't work. If she was greedy then she'd stream more to keep her revenue from dropping.

>>59792184
She could have just been streaming this whole time and wouldn't have felt threatened. Scummy behaviour is not excused just because your other scummy behavior put you in that position. That's like saying your murder was justified because they were a witness to your robbery.

>>59792235
The rrat isn't that Gura only cares about money, the rrat is that Gura is lazy and it's the dream of every lazy person to get money for doing the absolute minimum.

>>59788574
see >>59788927

Gura signed up and is employed to provide an entertainment service, if there is no entertainment, the customers actually if anything are entitled to not be satisfied with that outcome.

If the reality is "gura literally doesn't have to stream at all if she doesn't feel like it and Cover is too afraid to do anything about it" that's more on Cover being too lax than Gura taking advantage of them. Is Gura a shitter for abusing the trust of Cover and the fans? Sure. But so are like 20 other Holos - a good chunk of JP barely streams either. No it is no black company shit to ask your employees to actually do work and be productive.

>>59788294
Why should other holos mention her? They would only make things worse because Gura doesn't want to share anything, presumably because there is no good reason for her total ghosting.

>>59792235
I'm not even gonna bother with an actual reply. You're retarded.

>>59788294
Gura helped make vtubing popular. Doesn't matter what she does. I give her the credit.

>>59788294
when the next contract renew

why are people talking about gura like she's a cover-deployed SCP, im sure she's fine, and even if she isnt, its her business and cover's. its not like this is anything new, no one is shitting their pants because gura isnt streaming. just enjoy when she's here, and enjoy the other girls when she isnt.

>>59792102
>threatened
How were Advent ever going to be a threat for her? She can win prizes without even doing anything, Advent are light years away from being her competitors.

>>59792341
I accept your surrender

>>59791538
Gura never finishes anything why the hell did she start Outer Wilds?

>>59792262
>comparing what Gura's doing to murder
roru, I'll indulge you anyway. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with that Gura's doing (or did during Advent debut month), because a) chumbuds can leave at any point and b) she has no responsability towards Advent, they're on their own (just like she is).

It might be ugly but she's defending her paycheck and lifestyle. You can't convince me you'd do otherwise.

>>59790440
Still a millionaire so what’s a few more matter to her?

>>59792518
Ame told her to do it. I'm guessing she finished it off-stream.

>>59792518
Why the hell did she start Elden Ring?
Why the hell did she start Callisto Protocol?
Why the hell did she start DMC 4?
Why the hell did she start Project Wingman?

>>59789264
We were promised a 15-hour work week and I'm supposed to begrudge Gura for achieving it?

>>59791999
>but it's her fucking paycheck on the line
the paycheck she doesnt work for?

>>59792686
yeah, isn't it great?

>>59792552
It's called manipulation. She lures in these desperate chumbuds with the promise of love and attention so they don't look for it elsewhere (advent) and instead keep waiting for their lazy goddess to show up shouting "ANY DAY NOW". Chumbuds are victims in this and the criminal is Gura

None of this matters because as soon as she does a non-mandated stream she'll love bomb the chumbuds again and they'll keep the status quo going.
Just don't watch her when she does if you don't want to participate in enabling her behavior.

>>59789066
>I give her a year tops until she moves to vshojo
Why would she move to VShojo? She grew to hate her old fans. Why would she go back to them? Unless you mean she's gonna get a brand new Model/persona.

>>59791538


There, I fixed this stupid image. I took out all the ones where their streams DIDN'T EVEN overlap. There's barely any now, chumbud haters on suicide watch.

>>59792296
>absolute minimum
but literally Gura isn't doing anything and it hurts her neet dream in the long run as she will get less and less

>>59788294
She's big enough to generate money for Cover with her mere existence. Also it's clear that they prefer her to go full Ayame and conserve her good will and energy for actually important things like Hologra, concerts and advertisement campaigns.
When will you dipshits learn that for Cover streaming is just an afterthought and what they care about is how successful is their character. Funny shark girl is recognizable and popular? Who needs her streaming - just make sure she's showing on public events and do one-liner for advertisement companies once a week.

>>59789420
>she has a husband and kid now, she has no time to stream
This doesn't stop other chuubas, anon. You know this. If she has a husband/bf, then he can absolutely take care of the kid for two hours while she streams. He could also take care of it for the 30 seconds it takes to come up with one of her babbling retard tweets.
There's another reason she refuses to stream.

>>59791999 (me)
I'll also add this: if you're bothered in any way because Goobs gets paid "without working for it" (that's somewhat debatable), that's on (You). I don't like what she's doing but you faggots need to get over your own bullshit, you're only angry at yourselves.

>>59791046
>>59791476
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9235997?hl=en
I legitimately don't know where the "three months" rrat came from. I have literally only seen it here. This is what it says:
>YouTube does reserve the right, at its discretion, to remove monetization from channels if a channel is inactive and not uploading or posting Community posts for 6 months or more.
Nothing about it being a hard-and-fast automatically enforced rule and if I go digging around for people who have actually said they've been demonetized after a period of inactivity, they said that they fell below the monetization threshold (1,000 subscribers and either 4,000 hours of non-shorts watch time or 10 million shorts views).

>>59789777
>gura doesn't owe you anything
Gura owes me sex.

>>59792937
>I legitimately don't know where the "three months" rrat came from. I have literally only seen it here.
astroturfed numbermonkeys

>>59792922
Wageslave mentality, please understand

>>59792552
>nothing intrinsically wrong with what guras doing
Kek, chumbuds have Stockholm syndrome bad

>>59792778
What? You think she owns Gura persona? That is Covers IP.

>>59790713
>Kronii making connections with VShojo
wait where did this rrat come from, i'm out of the loop i was on vacation

>>59792235
She doesn't need to stream to make money. She's pretty much the face of Hololive worldwide and is for all intents and purposes the biggest vtuber in Hololive. That comes with benefits.

>>59793015
>You think she owns Gura persona? That is Covers IP.
I didn't even come close to implying this with my original post. I was referring to her PL/RM.

>>59792869
>It's clear they prefer
No it's not. Cover absolutely does not prefer Ayame and Gura to not stream. They tolerate it at best. Why would they PREFER for their income streams to be smaller than possible?

people who never cancelled their memberships, what are you paying for?

>>59792993
I think it's mostly jealous third worlders, but yeah that too

Expect communication from your precious shark soon.

>>59793073
it's just $5, I also pay for Netflix and rarely watch anything

>>59790228
>dancing

No one in Hololive dances. It's all a facade. I'd give gura singing but she does NOTHING with it. Talent also goes side by side with work ethic which she clearly lacks.

>antis still seething about Gura streaming over Advent, while still ignoring the fact that all of Advent streamed (and still stream) over each other
I wonder what damages a growing fanbase more: THE top vtuber getting a burst of motivation due to management finally getting their shit together coming back for two weeks in her usual time slot, then leaving once again (and thus giving the people who crave content a chance to watch all of the new hires), or an entire new gen cannibalizing each other's potential new fans by streaming at the exact same time.
But this post will get ignored as well since it doesn't go with their narrative.

>>59793013
Kiara literally doxed Subaru's home address, yet she's still in this company and KFP still think she can do no wrong. Crazy world

>>59793160
That's actually just a straight up fabrication, you're telling me bae doesn't do her own dances? Delusional

>>59793168
What kind of retarded statement is the greentext shit. If anything Gura introduced her shitty fanbase to Advent streaming along side them during their debut month.

>>59792344
>Gura helped make vtubing popular
How is this a good thing? Normies are destroying it.

What I wanna is: when was the last time Okayu talked about Gura?

>>59788718
This. She's moved on from the virtual life seeing how shit the internet has become. Now real life tending her garden is her friend.

>>59793071
Because Youtube pennies are fucking worthless and why putting pressure on Gura for worthless pennies when they can use her existence as one of the most popular vtubers worldwide to promote shit?
They don't need her sitting few hours a day playing games when they can during that time force her through more singing/dancing/japanese lessons and prepare for another concert or Hologra (which people will cum, shit and piss for because it's damn Gawr Gura) or sign contract with whatever to record few lines they can use in advertisement.

gura moved on because hololive is trying to use her as pedobait. look at how uninterested she was in her last couple of streams after getting the new outfit.

Do people realize the impact of Gura's graduation on cover corp ? They keep on her on paycheck just for her image and some big events.

She is literally like Mickey Mouse for Disney, even though he isn't as relevant as modern Disney characters but it's still fucking Mickey Mouse.. the face of Disney.

>>59788294
Sorry, she's been busy raising me.

>>59789777
>But don't you find it insulting that she doesn't WANT to give back to her community?
She literally said she WANTS to do exactly that after seeing FUWAMOCO's love for the audience. Now why she hasn;t delivered in this aspect is up for debate, but don't go saying she doesn't want to.

>>59793459
Words are cheap.

>>59792407
>and enjoy the other girls when she isnt.
I don't, I've tried, I don't like any of them enough to stay interested enough to sit through a whole stream. The only one that came close was Fauna, but she's already starting to show cracks like Gura and I'm not gunna stick around for that again.

>>59788294
>>59793013
>>59789777
>it's about streaming
There are idols who have been gone weeks or longer without appearances--a lot recently, but the spam threads, bots and energy is wasted on someone we saw over a week--and in some cases a couple days ago? It's like Gura personally killed their family member or something.

>>59793520
True but I believe her.

>>59793459
>but don't go saying she doesn't want to.
Actions speak louder than words.

>>59793598
You don't know the reason.

>>59793369
Yeah, 13% of their total revenue, pennies, sure. Ask any company is 13% of their revenue is insignificant.

>>59793253
It's pre rendered 3D performances. None of it is live so you can easily just swap hired dancers to fill in to help puppeteer a model. It's probably more efficient and cheaper too.

>>59790442
I know it's a popular joke to compare MMOs to having a job, but there are some important differences. People seldom quit their job just because they got a new partner.

I expect this to be the new normal for Gura. She'll stick around as Holo's mascot and pick up money from merch drops and memberships. She'll stream on important events and a couple more times per year if the right game comes out. She basically has no incentive to stream every week now.

How many times must we go through this
>WHERE IS GURA IS SHE GRADUATING
Loop? This is like the 5th time.

>>59793413
The more they delay her graduation the worse it will get.

>>59793413
>face of Cover

Maybe for the EN branch but she has fallen in popularity drastically world wide compared to most JP members like Marine and Peko.

>>59793631

the amount of people who dont understand all 3d reveals are pre recorded is scary. there are some dumb bitches out there.

>>59793631
You're actually delusional if you think all, or even the majority of performances are handled this way. If these are professional dancers cover should get their money back because some of the girls are mediocre at best and the choreography is far from top-tier

>>59793620
No one does. Doesn't change the fact that actions speak louder than words.

>>59793204
>Kiara literally doxed Subaru's home address
QRD?

>>59788294
If that's not acceptable. Then stop giving her money.
Simple as.

>>59793631
Horrible fucking time to bait like this
Once again Bae disproves you since her dancing was actually live for her showcase. There were zero cuts from her performance to her MC segments, a seamless transition followed by her reading actual comments in chat, only the singing was pre-recorded

>>59793459
>Gura always wants to say lovey-dovey stuff like "smile for me pls chwumbies" but it's too cringe for her
>FWMC straightforwardly do it just like that
>Gura envies them
end of story

>>59793675
>5th
You been living under a rock? Threads like this have been around for at least a year or more now.

>>59793620
>>59793695
I know the reason.
It's internet hate from trannies and management toxicity.

Imagine being the face of Cover no like seriously, you have no talents and your whole personality is just knowing and being a meme. Must be depressing

>>59789605
maybe the fans should try becoming the football player they want to see
same here, when gura can't keep up the production anymore maybe the fans should step in and make her content

>>59793713
I'm at her house now living in her walls. She smells like citrus.

If you're still membered to Gura, fucking why? You're only enabling this behavior.

>>59793459
>>59793620
She told us straight up, that she SHOULD say something, she repeated it 3 times with emphasis, after saying actions speak louder than words, she wanted chumbuds to know she didn't care about them anymore but she can't say that directly, so she let people know to watch what she was going to do next. There's not a single excuse that can explain away zero communication for 6 weeks with a couple mandatory streams slapped in the middle, hell she didn't even bother to commission a 3 year member badge.

>>59793855
>t. seething tranny

>>59793886
You should just randomly quack in different rooms of her house, for the laughs.

>>59791490
antis been saying that forever, cope and seethe

>>59788294
Didn't she LITERALLY say
>see you next year!
during this..???

>>59793696
>waste time learning how to dance and keeping that physique/skill in check

Actual delusion when you realize dancers routinely keep up with their techniques to perform at a decent level. Not saying Hololive girls do intensive dancing but some of it is very sketchy. Like I said it would be cheaper and more efficient to just hire dancers because when you have your money makers wasting time dancing instead of streaming is beyond retarded.

>>59793629
13% of revenue for who? Entire company? Do you fucking understand how this shit works?
Gura's streams are worth shit in comparison to what she's generating as mascot of company. Even if your dreamed 13% exist and are relevant for Gura's case - would you focus on that on rest of that 87%? Would you push Gura to sit on ass and play Minecraft for hours when she can be training for next concert, record whatever shit they need her to record or be contracted to do some side gig for other company?
Like, are you broken chumduds this stupid to not understand that slapping "Features Gawr Gura From Hololive!" on random shit and having her say few cute words for advertisement is more profitable than Youtube will ever be? And if she's not feeling like streaming Cover will do jack shit because as someone here already mentioned - her graduating or being forced to take full break would be catastrophy for Cover as big as when their entire Chinese branch was on fire.

>>59793682
People who don't watch vtubers don't know who Pekora and marine are, but they do know Gura even in JP or anywhere else in the world.
She has a marketable face, you can't beat cute or loli in jp.

>>59793649
pretty heartless of her if she needs incentive to stream for people who support her instead just doing it for them.

>>59788574
I think in general people think entertainers owe them way too much, but in this case she at least owes the members who pay monthly an explanation

>>59793746
Yeah and she's a shit streamer because of it. Has no idea how to pull people in with her content creation. Which is her actual fucking job.

Death to all chumpedos

>>59793675
we stop going through with it until she graduates, or gets at least somewhat of a consistent schedule (never happening)

>>59789460
I'm the child. I refuse to let her be in my presence without giving me milkies. Her breast are red by time I'm done with her. And once I'm done I demand her change my diaper. If she doesn't I shriek so loud that the dogs two blocks down start howling. She belongs to me chumbuds you will never get another gura stream as long as I'm around. Unless it's nappy time.

>>59793903
This. She doesn't care about them anymore, wouldn't even surprise me if she hates them nor would I blame her if she does, but she can't just say that outright.

imagine being such a vtsister that you timeloop the same shit over and over, sad doesn't begin to describe it

>>59794017
People who don't watch vtubers wouldn't know who Gura is kek the delusion. But as soon as you dip your toes into the hobby you'll instantly be recommended JP hololive more so over Gura since she DOESN'T stream anymore.

Guras left over placenta here,
Yes she had kids stop asking

>>59794225
Imagine never streaming- oh yeah wait…

>>59794276
sorry but I don't speak obsessed

>>59794231
ngl I'd love to deepfry Gura's placenta and eat it

>>59792937
I first saw that rumor during one of ayame's breaks

I liked when she got that travel book that a bunch of her members put in a lot of effort to put together for her birthday stream, she read a few pages, then put it away promising she would go through the rest of it with them later in a different stream, and then never did. I wonder if she threw it away.

>>59794073
>Make counter arguement
>"H-Here's this completely unrelated thing!
Of course it's a disgusting, goalpost-moving numbermonkey

>>59794225
>NOOOO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT VTUBERS DO OR DON'T DO ON THE VTUBER BOARD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>59794276
Except that's false. If there's "never a stream" then there is no content plain and simple. If you accept this then we get into unicorn logic where if you don't say males (most viewing audience) are disgusting, then you must be sleeping with Vox right this second.

>>59794429
you don't watch vtubers dramafaggot

>>59793034
She was narrator voice on new vshojo male debut video

>>59788656
This. She doesn't need to put in effort because she prints money simply by existing. Until that changes, rules don't apply to her.

>>59794474
That's not Kronii that's Mika Melatika

>>59793443
Why is it deleted? Is it true?

>>59794225
imagine Gura and timelooping ghosting your fans over and over again

>>59794411
>goalpost moving
>differentiates the problem with being a good dancer is being a shit streamer

The post was there from the beginning anon.

>>59794473
>no counterargument
I accept your concession. Now fuck off and stop crying about what this board is about; discussing vtubers.

>>59794473
True, I can't watch vtubers because Gura never streams.

>>59788294
She's probably dating and living already with that twitch Asian guy who was caught watching her stream and was consistently teased by his fellow podcast mates of having a crush on Gura. I forgot his name but he was followed by Senzawa and vice versa in the past, which I got to know after he was being teased also by having a crush on a "cowboy shark".
I still laugh when other e girls and twitch thots would consistently call, collab and raid his stream because they thirst for his Asian stick but always find his chat teasing him about Gura.

>>59794524
man you NPCs all sound the same, keep doing this shit your whole life kek, fucking losers rumao

>>59789066
>he thinks she would be happier changing corps
Firstly, she hates streaming, period. And even if she did want to move to a smaller corp, it wouldn't matter. Her schizo fans would follow her anywhere she goes, as well as picking up numerous antis in the switch.

>>59794429
Saying the V-tuber you hate the most doesn't stream or isn't around enough isn't the silver bullet you think, sister.

>>59794016
>Dreamed
I'm literally reading their financial report retard. 13% of the companies total revenue comes from streaming related activities. Imagine being this dumb

>>59794588
I never said that though. Are you ok? Did you forget to take your meds today?

Gura didn't even add advent in her recommended channel
https://www.youtube.com/@GawrGura/channels
lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Kronii too btw

>>59788294
She's the force behind Tempus graduations. You don't mess with Gura.

>>59794551
QRD?

>>59794551
Does he still live in the OTV house? Is that even still a thing or did it die?

>>59794015
As I said, of those are professional dancers cover is getting ripped off. The performances are too amateurish to be anything else.

>>59794551
>I'm schizophrenic

>>59789470
I can believe she's just too afraid something about her super secret bf would slip and lying makes streaming harder on emotional level for many reasons. Also would explain why Kiara suddenly felt the need to explain how she doesn't have a boyfriend and is not looking for one because she doesn't have time for that when nobody was even shitposting about it, it's soon after she got closer with Gura so makes you think.

>>59794678
Japs are greedier than jews, they actually made interns do it.

To all the chumbies defending Gura:
We get that it's a business. We get that it's beneficial for Gura to make money without work. We get that it's good for Cover to keep her around to sell merch. But what are YOU getting out of it?

>>59794774
The pleasure of being exploited by a 30 year old woman pretending to be a bratty child on the Internet, of course

>>59794774
>But what are YOU getting out of it?
Schizophrenia.

>>59794645
Why do chumbuds talk about Stars so much
I don't think any other fanbase does it than them.
Like this entire thread is about Gura herself and no one else yet they still bring up males

>>59794678
>make it believable

Also they do have agencies around the world that specifically hire dancers that do 3D mocap performances. It's a legit business. To say Cover doesn't dip into that is pure cope considering the time saver it can be.

>>59794588
You'd have a point if that was all that was said. It does get said a lot, but then there's threads like this with actual discussion and genuine questions. I think you need to take a break because you're clearly mindbroken.

>>59794830
They all watch them because she isn't streaming anon. That's how they know so much about them lmao

>>59794817
>pretending
She isn't even doing that anymore though, she would actually have to work for that to be the case.

>>59794830
They're very tsundere and secretly like them

>>59791999
>I'm a chumbud

>>59794645
>He still thinks Shorkie had anything to do with Kroni's bf / fagni.

>>59788294
the other girls are as tired of her disappearing as we are

>>59794971
She'll be back for a Halloween extravaganza with her new kohai! Believe!

Just wait until chumbuds start again harassing Kiara in her chat and with superchats asking for Gura updates.
They've done it for 2 breaks in a row since she's the only one willing to talk about Gura

>>59794830
>>59794868
>>59794897
The Tempus thing started as a cope for the very start of her latest ghosting session, she was gone for a bit after leaving a member's post only saying "plotting" and soon after the meme rrat of her getting them fired started to spread, but then she still didn't come back.

>>59794661
Ah I remember now. His name was sykkuno. He was a very popular streamer for girls. He was always teased that his chat would always say "let him shrimp in peace" whenever he gets caught watching Gura, forgot to hide his Gura cards.
Tbh, I wouldn't wonder if they started dating in secret. They had a history in the past as Senzawa and Sykkuno, following and watching each other's streams. Iirc and cmiiw, Gura once draw a... Was it a thumbnail or a picture on his Twitter?
The guy seems wholesome and nice. Something a drunkard cowboy shark would need.

>>59791538
>LET ME COOK
>NO

>>59790934
>EN management has been COMPLETELY overhauled since she started ghosting.
HoloEN is less angry with management than in 2022 but that doesn't mean everything is perfect. Gura wouldn't be streaming 3 times a month while Kronii starts making connections with VShojo if they weren't having any problems with Cover.

It's funny seeing chumbuds backed into a corner and trying to find any plausible reason on why Gura is the way she is now, especially when they start lashing out at others.

>>59794971
I think the rest of EN has genuinely given up on trying to get in contact with or collab with her. Advent has made ZERO mention of "Big Brain Games II" and I doubt she has even broached the subject with them let alone started organizing it

>>59789577
>>59789875
>>59791776
Okay, but >we all agree she's rich?

>>59795107
retard

>>59788294
Gura got pregnant, had a baby and her maternal hormones have made her disgusted by lolishit. She can barely bring herself to play the character she got into vtubing with anymore.

>>59795116
Makes me wonder what these anons will move on to when chumbuds on /vt/ inevitably go extinct.

>>59795107
>Every issue with a chuuba is managements fault
Ogey

Why do ***they*** hate cute girls again? Is it because they know deep down they'll never be one themselves?

>>59795032
I honestly can't wait, I hope they annoy literally everyone as much as they can until someone makes Gura get her shit together.

>>59795118
FuwaMoco mentioned before that they messaged her a few times. But to be fair, they've literally messaged every single senpai.

>>59795178
>someone makes Gura
You can't make someone do something they don't want for themselves
That just leads to another 2 weeks of streams and a 4+ week ghosting

>>59795116
weird projection for seething at someone for over a year

>>59795124
Not just rich but absolutely loaded. The amount of merch she pushed through out the years coupled with her massive viewership/sponsorships she had to of made a salary over 3 mill a year or more. I know some streamers that are not even a fraction of what Gura is and they can buy nice homes and cars.

>>59795224
>You can't make someone do something they don't want for themselves
Called a job zoomer

>>59795107
>Kronii starts making connections with VShojo if they weren't having any problems with Cover.

>>59789348
>just to try and kill advent and bijou
why is this board so schizo lmao

>>59795118
The last Gura mention by advent was FWMC weeks ago saying Gura didn't even respond to their dm on discord. She used their name to score brownie points and then wouldn't even give them the time of day, it's so gross.

>>59795178
If someone was capable of making her they would have by now, the amount of revenue cover is losing out on compared to the peak of her career must be astronomical

>>59795284
Tell that to the shark then

>>59795300
because the catalog doesn't watch vtubers, they're literally just mentally ill dramafags looking for a target to attack

>>59795321
>Talk about how much you love FWMC
>Say you want to emulate them
>Say how much they inspire you
>They message you on discord and try to get in contact
>...
>Lol fuck off newbies
Genuinely disgusting person

>>59795321
I don't think anyone in Advent even acknowledged Gura when they played together during Myth's anniversary stream. I don't usually believe in rrats but I do think there is/was some bad blood due Gura streaming over Advent during their first couple of weeks.

>>59795386
>I'm schizophrenic

>>59795386
Kouhais need to learn their place.

>>59795321
Kinda fucked up ngl.

>>59795433
Literally all of that is true, attested by the chuubas themselves. Gura did gush over FWMC. FWMC did try to contact her, and Gura did ghost them. What other conclusion to draw? Even on the surface that's just disgusting

>>59795484
You're psychotic, and I'm done with you mentally ill freaks. Literally a waste of time to deal with mental patients.

That's why I'm telling you guys that Gura is probably content with her easy life and was probably dating and living already with that twitch streamer Sykkuno. Imagine being like Kizuna Ai where money just keeps pouring in as they use her model as a merch and promotional material and she don't have to find partners in blind as she already have someone when she was still senzawa.
Just wish our cowboy shark her happiness. Lol
Iirc, doesn't she also act like this when she was still senzawa? Like streaming and appearing only rarely? Cmiiw.

>>59795224
I'll take 2 weeks of streams, and like the other anon said, it's called a fucking job, Cover should get on her case, maybe not for not streaming, but for making fans feel this unappreciated, unhappy fans don't want to spend money, even a bunch of her 3 years with recognizable names have left, fucking Jason Dreams said he's done with her, I've heard that faggots name like 1,000 times during her SC readings, her behavior literally breeds antis. It feels like it's a hobby to her at this point.

So if Gura does graduate... Like, what would happen?

>>59795531
Why do facts upset you so much?

>>59795560
Cover wouldn't be able to sell merch of her anymore, right?

>>59795592
Of course they would, they own the character

>>59795592
They own the IP and image so they obviously could. But would that be a popular decision with fans is the real question

>>59789777
>But don't you find it insulting that she doesn't WANT to give back to her community?
No

>>59795560
She would probably stream with OTV, or whatever those IRL twitch streamers are called

>>59795577
you will never understand truth because you're a schizo

>>59795560
Anons like to say it would destroy Hololive, but honestly... Not a whole lot, as long as it was amicable and everyone involved walked away with a smile. Like, she'd get a whole celebration and fancy graduation stream like the other big alumni did.
After that, I feel like the rest of HoloEN would keep on trucking as they have, provided Gura wasn't coerced into her position.

>>59795657
Tell me youre explanation for that situation then kek

>>59795414
It didn't help that Gura said maybe 20 words the whole hour, the only time she actually raised her voice was to say "WHY ARE YOU SHOOTING MEEE DUDE?"

>>59795622
>>59795636
Do they still sell merch of graduated talents?

>>59795657
I thought you were done?

>>59795698
I got the impression she was drunk/hungover that whole stream

>>59795577
Not them but how are your own assumptions facts again? Can we prove it beyond your say so?

>>59795676
>tell me your schizo conclusions then!
you're a waste of time

>>59795769
>No counterargument
Kek, you can't even imagine an explanation where your chuuba doesn't look like shit, imagine being this retarded

>>59795433
>>59795531
>>59795657
Actually having a mental breakdown because Gura's character was called into question, can't even argue against facts so he just resorts to calling people crazy.

I think scholars and like religious historians should visit this board to read the dumb shit you guys post to better understand ancient people's way of thinking. Like unironically I think it could be helpful to them to find out how religions formed. Like back when cavemen looked up at the sky, they saw lighting, wondered what the heck that was, some guy said "oh it must be god fighting or something" But fighting what? "Oh it only lightnings when it rains, he must be fighting the rain god to defeat him and make it sunny again". Like people here do the same exact shit but with vtubers instead.

>Why isn't Gura streaming?
>"She must be fighting management or something"
>Fighting them over what?
>"I dunno males? She is fighting them so that they don't make her collab with males"
>They don't make anyone collab with anyone though
>"Yes that means her fight is going well. Praise her! Amen"

It's like taking a time machine to speak with primitive man except it's happening now and it a lot stupider.

>>59793874
>maybe the fans should try becoming the football player they want to see
anons tell me that i will never be a woman
anons tell I should become a woman
which one is it

>>59795801
schizo conclusions don't need to be argued, just called out for what they are

>>59795560
The situation is unironically similar to Magni and Vesper. They both took an almost 2 month """""hiatus"""" and StarsEN was fine without them and it still is. Some would say it's better without them. Gura has literally done so little for HoloEN as a whole and is so inactive currently that it would 10000% be fine. Hell I barely even think about her unless I see threads like this or someone mentions her.
Also, Fuwamoco and Bijou are damn near perfect replacements for different reasons.
And ID4 is coming soon, and HoloEN auditions are still permenantly open.

>tl;dr
Nothing will happen. Things will be as they are now because she's basically damn near gone already

>>59795414
Gura streams the same time at 8 anon. Advent kept streaming over each other until they found a balance.

>>59795753
>>59795698
I think she was staying quiet due to feelings of guilt and general risk avoidance.

>>59795843
Okay schizo lol

>>59795699
No nigga, but they could.But like I said that would probably be an unpopular decision

>>59795879
Imagine Sana graduation anniversary merch. It would sell.

>>59795560
>Like, what would happen?
Cover would lose a source of income. That's about it really. Things would move on without her.

>>59795876
you're the one doing the assuming, schizokun
anyway have fun wasting your life doing that

>>59789066
retardchama, idol work is the only content she wants to do nowadays

>>59795560
Nothing. It'd be exactly the same thing that happened with Sana. People will say "yeah, saw that one coming", be a bit sad, then move on by the end of the week, because she was already soft-graduated anyway.

>>59795753
The first collab she seemed medicated, or was just staring at her phone the whole time based on her eye tracking,
the 2nd stream she picked up a bit
3rd stream she was okay
4th stream, her uno stream, she actually put in some effort since she was the host, so she can fake it when she needs to
and then when advent came in she totally checked out.

>>59795946
>Wasting your life
He says, arguing with what he believes are schizos on the Internet. Imagine being this pathetic

>>59795954
>People will say "yeah, saw that one coming"
This was my reaction unironically and she was my oshi

>>59795757
The facts were laid out:
Gura used FWMC name for brownie points
FWMC contacted Gura
Gura never responded
There is nothing to dispute about those facts, so what do you make of them then?

>>59794774
This is what I don't understand, what's the point of Gura earning 10 billions if she never is there for the fans to watch, you aren't her manager or a cover staff, you're a fan and while she's getting money you're getting nothing back

>>59796005
yeah like I said it's a waste of time

>>59796038
>FWMC contacted Gura
>Gura never responded
How do we know that? genuinely asking, I don't really watch either.

>>59796066
>Its a waste of time to argue with schizos
>Continues replying
Lol

I just wonder what she's doing. I've had some years being a NEET, and just doing nothing and playing video games feels very hollow eventually.
Has she taken up other hobbies?

>>59795839
just don't be low effort and actually try to be convincing as a woman instead of just another dickless goblin with no social grace
it's probably way too late for you but if you're not deterred then good luck

>>59796070
No one knows because there's no proof
But Kiara has openly spoke about Gura ghosting her and others in the past in DMs so you can make your own conclusions

>>59796070
FWMC are hungry to become the best streamer they can be in EN. Of course they contacted Gura for a Collab. Gura probably hit them up with a "I'm busy sorry maybe later ;)"

>>59796050
Gura's the only EN that actually appealed to normie market and normies give 0 fucks about getting regular content or the idol crap, they'd rather just have cute merch they can set as convo pieces, funny clips/shorts they can consoom in 5 minutes of their day and then they move on to other things

>>59795831
I lol'd

>>59796070
FWMC said so.

>>59796050
Well, you do get to see her at HoloFes, HoloConnect and other performances she ends up at. That was enough to keep the idolfags of old going, funnily enough.

>>59796070
FWMC said it on stream.

>>59796155
Source?

>>59796116
sad that mentally ill people ruined the site, actually they ruin everything

>>59796155
>>59796177
NTA but can you identify the stream and time stamp? I'm genuinely curious.

>>59796130
has she indicated she's even actively playing games off stream

>>59796155
>>59796177
Was it like "We asked her, hopefully we hear back soon! :3" and they just didn't bring it back up again? Or it was "yeah we asked her this little cunt just left us on read" (Fuwawa is the one saying this)?

>>59796070
>>59796138
I guess I'm fucking stupid then if they said it on stream

Probably lost interest already. She's still a holo talent because the gig bring lots of money and mgt. can't really do shit about it cause she can just use tummy hort as a reason for her absence. It would also be too high profile if their biggest talent (sub wise) in EN just retires for "reasons" that would probably be undisclosed to the public. People will speculate, rumours will spread, some "info" true or not will surface and the public will fight over its authenticity. And there's always a possibility that people will blame Cover for that fiasco, even though the fault mostly lies on the talent herself. So it's safer to just let her take a break, maybe she'll feel like streaming sometimes, maybe force her to participate on major events or sell merch, etc., than to let her completely graduate. Who knows, her passion for streaming might get re ignited.

Tldr, shork lazy, cover avoid more problems by letting talent do what they wanna do but occasionally tug their leash for moniez.

>lives rent free in anon's head

>>59796219
She mentioned trying out a bunch of games that she might want to try on stream, like dave the diver, was like half way through the playthrough when she told us and then fucked off to never play it on stream or any of the other games she mentioned "researching" for us. Honestly felt like she was trying to upset people, like "Yeah, I have time to play games I could stream, but I'll just play them alone instead."

>>59796271
Yeah I'd imagine they give Gura a LOT of slack, like Ayame, so long as she shows up and streams every once in a while instead of graduating permanently. She likely won't even show up for Christmas.

>>59796271
>>59796394
To be honest Cover has such little overhead for its streamers (50% profit margins) that they can afford to let the established ones limp through their contracts. Merch sales and lingering members more than cover whatever they happen to invest in her so why turn down free profit. Would they prefer to see them work harder and maximize revenue? Sure, but it's not worth the possibility of destroying the revenue stream forever and leaving a sour taste in the audiences mouth. Her manager probably still privately seethes over it as it makes his numbers worse but what's he gonna do.

>>59795433
>>59795531
>>59795657
>>59795843
The absolute state of chumkek defense arguments. Buck broken.

>>59795297
Kronii's RM wouldn't be getting that close to VShojo unless it was on purpose. Their corpo is a direct competitor to Hololive and that was a message to management that she could walk a different path.

>>59795321
>The last Gura mention by advent was FWMC weeks ago saying Gura didn't even respond to their dm on discord.
Aren't you curious why Gura couldn't respond to them on the Hololive discord?

>>59796442
But what do you and the viewers get out of it?

>>59796271
management wouldn't want her to graduate
she's basically the global mascot for hololive and a brand ambassador who's even used for tourism
she sells merch like crazy still
she's holopro's biggest success and it would take years for anyone else's brand to succeed her. maybe fuwamoco can do it if they start trending in mainstream internet but visually the shark girl costume is too iconic

>>59796494
Never said it was acceptable. It's shit, but the best decision Cover has given the situation

>>59795956
Except the last collab was from Ame's point of view so we had no window on what Gura was doing 90% of the collab. It was hard to tell who most of the players were in general. Picture the Outlast collab last spring from Mori's point of view only, Gura would be out of sight most of time and it would feel like the group magically got through the game somehow.

>59796155
>59796177
Still waiting on that source.

shes too buys masturbating to that futa sana animation over and over to stream

>>59796453
If it didn't need to be any more obvious

>>59788373
on that stream you could clearly notice that she already checked out. She had like no interest or energy and the way she was speaking and behaving she was either high or drunk.

>>59792907
>He could also take care of it for the 30 seconds it takes to come up with one of her babbling retard tweets.
If anything, having a baby would help with those retard tweets, just post what the baby says. "Truck vroom" classic gura

>>59796687
She definitely has an alcohol problem, don't know if she's got into anything else. Weed seems probable.

>>59796677
kek

>>59796494
Cover understands that one of the appeals of Hololive for casuals is the perception that the company takes care of its talents well compared to a lot of companies, cares about its talents, the talents are happy there, and that they all get along. Whether that's true or not doesn't matter, only the perception. That's why during the first few advent collabs they constantly repeated shit like "WE'RE ALL SUCH GREAT FRIENDS" - they were told the assignment but no one told them that saying that out loud was too on the nose
But, voluntary graduations are to be avoided, doubly so when its a huge talent like Gura. Casual viewers also get to hold out hope that their favorite talent will eventually stream, even if it's only for events/milestones.

>>59796155
>>59796177
I'm adding to the queue, I want to see if that happened.

>>59796631
>>59796848
Supposedly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3jNm8phF8o based off >>58161208

>>59795068
shes an ironic weeb. no way she ever dates nonwhite

IDK man, she's probably just pregnant with MY child. Emphasis on MY, because the child is mine.
Of course, hers too. To clarify, it is my semen that fertilized her eggs.

This is revealed to me in a dream. But I believe it, 100%. Please wish OUR child a happy life in the future. Thank you very, very much.

Mentally ill twitterfreaks (femcels and incels) have been here since the collab shitstorm last year. They latched onto Gura because they hate idolshit and successful women in general >>59795236. They're bitter about their shitty lives and their only way of feeling better is by shitting on people more successful than them. They have never watched vtubers, and never will. They have only one goal, which is to shit on people and ruin things for others. If you think there's any sincerity in anything they post regarding vtubers, you are mistaken.

>>59796192
>>59796213
>>59796235
watch streams

>>59796862
>members only
So nothing unless/until someone delivers a snippet of it. Also that post mentioned something from their debut so not the most reliable post. Thanks anyway.

>>59797139
If you can't post proof, then it didn't happen.

>>59797109
you're confusing her with Mori, who's the one being constantly dragged by Twitter

>>59797397
They're both being dragged by mentally ill twittertards. Bonebros love!

>>59796453
KEK!

>>59795560
Myth would be able to actually do events together without having to rely on Gura's very unreliable "schedule"

>>59797397
There was an influx here after the collabs and shitty drama channels. But before that Kiara was targeted more. The Mori stuff was largely in other places, aside from obviously unicorns upset about collabs, but they were never nearly as bad as the twitterfreaks with their spam, those are on another level since they have zero love for the hobby and basically hate it and its participants.

>>59796479
>Gura couldn't respond
>couldn't
so we're at the "invent narratives and lie" stage of cope now, huh?

>>59797936
>She's busy with projects!
>She's sick!
>She's travelling to Japan!
>There was a hurricane!
Etc., etc.

>>59797988
>She broke all 10 of her fingers and toes so she can't type out a message to her fans for the last 6 weeks or ask her manager to.

>>59796479
I mean I hadn't even heard anything about Kronii getting close to VShojo so I was confused. When did she even do that?
Anyway, she thinks it's unfortunate that idol culture is a thing so maybe it's for the best.

>>59798102
>she's had a severely sore throat for the last 6 weeks as well so she basically can't communicate with anyone at all!

I miss Gura minecraft.

>>59798539
>gura could have offered to show Advent around the Minecraft server
She's just pretending to care

>>59798437
>Except on her anniversary where it managed to recover just enough for 2 solo streams and 5 hours of collabs!
It truly was a miracle we got the content we did!

>>59798539
>>59798596
Gura said she's excited for guerilla minecraft collabs with Advent! Surely any day now!

>>59796070
>>59796848
>>59797260
They talk about wanting to get slapped by Gura's tail (one of their goals)
>We are slowly taking steps towards that, how should we make that happen more Ruffians? Y'know I think it's baby steps. Sometimes y'know sharks can be a bit shy so you don't wanna just run up to the shark and grab the tail. So you know we have been.. maybe messaging a bit here and there trying to.. get a bit more.. send the DM's trying to get closer to being slapped by Gura's tail.
Transition into them asking Ruffians if they are good at sending dm's to people, asks for help from Ruffians
>Y'know our senpai are very busy and were the newbies right? So we don't wanna be like "I'M A NEWBIE " but y'know like for us we haven't really been able to talk to our senpai than the bit we did before we debuted, I think.. it''s nobodies fault it's just how it is you know?
Then they go back to talking about how to send dm's to their senpai, avoiding walls of text or too many questions ect.

That is the extent of it, you can believe me or not and interpret it how you want but that is what is said about Gura in that members stream.

>>59798750
>Fuwamoco want to collab with gura
>Gura wants to collab with fuwamoco
Someone here is lying cause there's been absolutely no progress

>>59798750
I belieb it. I can see how it could be spun a certain way or another, but I think that second sentence could as well apply to all of their senpais.

>>59788574
Cuckbuds......

I don't follow the theorizing behind Gura's absence since there's nothing to go on. I hope she's okay though. I know it's not my place to do so as just a face in the crowd, but I do worry sometimes.

>>59794551
Sykkuno. And no, I don't think she has any real interest in him. She does on the other hand seem strangely knowledgeable about Swedish things...

>>59796219
lol Too many times to count. She mentioned finishing MH:Sunbreak offline, you know, the co-op game Ina, Iofi and others would have probably played with her. She knew that Power Wash Simulator added multiplayer even though she nor anyone else in Hololive had tried the multiplayer out yet, then she collab'd with Kronii like a week later. She's completely burnt out on DBD, despite playing like twice onstream in the last two years, and everyone knows it takes about 5 hours of gameplay to completely burn out on a favorite game forever. Pretty sure she mentioned that she had been playing Outlast Trials already during her first stream of it. She's just playing a lot of multiplayer focused games off stream for some reason.

>>59799950
The reality is so painful when you choose to face it...

>>59799950
Oof.