/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Stick to your first language, eslchama.

>>59766197
tldr: improve yourself

>>59766197
Good for you Anon. Keep on loving yourself. As for me I just enjoy supporting chuubas on their idol journey (yes I only watch Holo) and it's very fulfilling to see them grow and succeed. That's all I need. The comfy streams are a bonus.

I ain't reading all that. I'm happy for you or sorry that happened

What with this Zoomer brain mentality.
>sex sex sex
There's your problem coomerchama, just live your life normally.

>>59766197
I won't go into details, 3 times I committed, 3 times I was cheated on and last one was months before the wedding. Let's be real shit like that never fully heals, so dating marriage and all that can go to shit. After a long time being bitter about it I found my way down the rabbit hole, first for entertainment then out of habit I kept watching chuubas, a SC here and there, a couple memberships for a few months... and then I found my Oshi, she being a sweet dork made my days brighter and I won't lie and say she healed my heart or some bullshit like that but at least she dragged me out of the spiral of depression I was living in. I will always be grateful to her and will do what little I can to pay her back.

bro, why gura so cute bro? i wanna pin her down so bad. is it wrong to love a petite shork girl?

>>59766197
Learn English, go back to /r9k/ or /soc/, and kys

>>59766197
Spoken like someone who has never had a girlfriend. Get real nigga.

>never had a girlfriend, nor interested in it
>never got laid, see above
>never found their oshi
I don't know, man. I hope you are happy regardless and find meaning in your everyday life.
I don't know, man

>>59766197
Vtubers, easy. When the relationship will inevitably fail, breaking up with your oshi is the least painful comparatively. I've only been in one relationship and it lasted for nearly 14 years. I never want to lose something like that again, so vtubers are the only safe option.

>>59766197
As much hate as this gets from all the normies like >>59769332 >>59766310 etc honestly, it's a good point. Everyone here seems to be in denial and argues they only watch their oshi for "entertainment", but the reality is most would watch if they weren't a cute girl (look at the sheer seethe at male vtubers and how NO ONE aside from a few sisters want to watch them, even before we get into schizo unicorns). GFE is love, GFE is life, GFE is our alternative answer until AI waifus actually become fully functional/refined, and we'll take what we can get.

As anon said, for the guys who realistically can't get a GF (or are so risk averse that they don't want to play russian roulette with their finances/life), GFE, escorts, hostess bars, and whatever other form of rental female attention ends up being a very efficient option. There will always be those who get milked out of every penny they own, but that's moreso a problem associated with simping (same principle applies to 3dpd like onlyfans etc), and a healthy usage of GFE to cope can be possible (it's just unfortunately hard since most who enter this fanbase are schizos who can't distinguish reality and kayfabe).

At the same time, I'd also argue that keeping a healthy distance or otherwise not going all-in on the rabbit hole of parasocialism is probably best for your mental health. Rather than committing to a single oshi as your pseudo-relationship, consider maintaining a balance between all the GFE options so that you don't get too attached and delude yourself into thinking that it's real. It's similar to newbie sexpats who end up marrying the first bargirl (i.e. prostitute) they meet, whereas the experienced guys will always preach a 3-day rule, or even 1-day rule for those who get easily attached. Feel free to play the game and enjoy what it offers, but don't get suckered in or else you'll pay for it dearly.

>>59772958
here's the bit. Vtubing only appeals to the socially inept, which is fine, i am similarly socially inept, but as people stay in this community longer, they seem to forget that normal people don't watch vtubers, and they begin to apply normie standards to the chuubas they watch, and they're surprised when the vtubers they watch try to appeal to this more socially inept fanbase

>>59766310
Honestly, "improve yourself" is very true, even if most people hate to hear it from vtubers. It might be a callback to the 2010s, but trading in /vt/ for /fit/ probably will do wonders for physical and mental health for most, although it is a lot of work that few would commit to.
However, the caveat is the subset of people who solely decide to self-improve in order to date, which is a red flag in itself. Admittedly I definitely fell for that meme in years past and have seen how a glowup in looks, money, status can certainly attract gold diggers...but is that really what you want? Ultimately I ended up more disgusted by how girls who wouldn't have given the time of day just a few years ago suddenly put on an act to try and suck up and marriage scam you out of every penny you own, and find a honest whore experience to be much more safe/efficient. At least that's how I think about GFE, which is just a digital rental-GF experience where you don't need to spend a few hundred to go on a date with an IRL girl who pretends to like you. Sure, the IRL version has its appeal for those with the cash to burn, but getting a substitute experience with some GFE ASMR while falling asleep in the comfort of your own home has its benefits.

>>59766197
Nobody will follow my advice but here it is anyway
>never date
>never get married
>be extremely serious about whether or not you want kids, that decision will change your life permanently
>love anyone you have romantic feelings for, no matter how many
>don't give a shit if someone has romantic feelings for other people
>be completely honest about how you approach relationships
>don't waste time on people who don't treat you well or who aren't ready for you
>try to be yourself as best you can
>push yourself as hard as you can to interact with people without getting hopes up or dropping into despair
Works for me

>>59773082
Honestly, I'm not even sure if it's that people forget, or that failed normies enter the fanbase and end up diluting it from the original social outcasts who it was originally meant for. There were a few threads a few days back about how "GFE isn't the purpose of vtubing", but how many actual "brotubers" or genuinely entertaining vtubers are there if you took away the anime waifu model and appeal of the romance fantasy?

The more I look at Holo, the more I realize just how many of the girls really are normie adjacent (Mori and Kronii being the most obvious offenders), and that's supposedly the "pure idol" company....don't get me started on the likes of Niji, Vshojo etc which have gone full normie. Ultimately there's just been a big paradigm shift where "anime" and "weeb" aesthetics have entered the mainstream, and even IRL normies will watch shounen anime. Even years ago, I knew college varsity athletes who would geek out about Naruto and One Piece despite being otherwise the standard gymbro normie archetype. Now that there's a split in the weeb fanbase between functional normies and nonfunctional autists, the former end up crowding out much of the space, and the fully socially inept /r9k/ lite population end up retreating to smaller corpos and 2views that offer the GFE experience the industry was originally designed for, whereas the bigger "normie" corpos are targetting the same demographics as 3d twitch streamers and the likes of Trash Taste (who are also good examples of the weeb outcast-to-mainstream normie pipeline over the past decade).

People say that "oshi" solely means someone you want to see succeed, but this is still something inherited from the 3d idol industry, which is SUPER parasocial with loner guys who fantasize about dating/marrying their oshi and spend big bucks just to talk to her once or get a handshake. Sure, you have those who may see someone like Suisei as a genuine celebrity to adore rather than serve as a GFE target, but there's an equal population who love lewding her with Suisex art, so it's really a tossup.

>>59773283
Something I think guys like you kind of ... forget? Not realize?

Do you want to be outcasted, do you?
Is that your actual ideal?

Seriously, being an outcast weirdo that doesn't fit in and has to hide in the shadows is from not getting accepted or understood or etc. and you'd think the solution would be hey you we accept you come here! And so you do, then complain "ah fuck, the things like are being accepted and are getting popular now... man... now I can't say I'm a weird outcast anymore..." Rather than speaking about things like some alien normies are invading your space, why are you even protecting it? Is it really nice in there, hiding from the world? Or are you content with backing yourself into a don't touch me corner forever?

>>59773245
Honestly a good post, but indeed very controversial and will likely be shunned by most. I think I overall have a very similar view with dating/marriage being far overvalued in society.

If you distill it down to a monetary value, sex is cheap and you can buy it in most places for very little at all. However, it's put on an extreme pedestal as the "most valuable thing ever" and somehow even incels have been brainwashed into thinking that they must EARN sex from a woman in order to have meaning in life, even when it's offered on sale for little to no effort. That said, the whole concept of marriage is inherently flawed these days due to modern family court being a literal racket scam. It's simple: never sign a contract where the other party is incentivized to break it. Similarly, a marriage of true equals is almost nonexistent nowadays, and it's all about becoming a successful top 10/1% guy, and then picking up a random girl off the street and elevating her to a lifestyle she doesn't deserve. For the few individuals who manage to still have a healthy relationship and successful family unit in this day and age, genuinely good for you on taking the gamble and lucking out. However, for most, it's an awful deal that most likely ends in complete disaster and generally isn't worth the risk.
Once you take marriage and kids out of the equation, we ultimately end up in an unusual situation where we start sounding like progressive open-relationship advocates, but that's ultimately what it comes down to. Without being chained down by legal contracts and the obligation of kids, relationships become something much more casual, and can be treated akin to regular friendships (hence FWB as a term). Definitely will be considered a cultural faux pas by most, but within this framework, monogamy and "ownership" of another individual certainly no longer applies: it's akin to recognizing that even your best friend has their other friend groups beyond you, and having the maturity to not be jealous about that. I'm sure I'll get hate from all the cuck/NTR shitters, but those with the means generally have a pseudo-harem of girls, and couldn't care less if one leaves or isn't exclusive. When you hire an escort/rental GF, you KNOW she has other clients, but you don't care since she isn't special to you and is just a service provider like any other.
Rest of your points are also very solid advice about just being honest with yourself, staying committed to self improvement, and ultimately sticking to a self-confident attitude of not caring too much about other people and living life the way you want to. Sadly most people are chained down to social affirmation/cultural norms and are unable to break away and live life the way you want. I can definitely relate to losing a lot of former friends who are stuck to the "American dream" normie life, whereas I cashed out and became a retired NEET nomad rather than stick to social conventions and be a corporate drone forever (no matter how high the pay is, it is ultimately just a golden handcuff that keeps you miserable).

>>59773479
I think it comes down to a misunderstanding with what it means to be "accepted" or "welcome" in a sense. If you've seen the memes about how fandoms decline over time (i.e. infiltrated by normies/fake fans who force their way in and proceed to ruin the fandom), I think there's a similar sentiment here. People love their secret clubs where you and others like you can enjoy the hobby for what it is, even if it's weird and judged by most of society.

Think about how much everyone hates election tourists here on 4chan....here's all the "additional fans" and mainstream popularity you could ask for, but now this board becomes a censored hugbox full of redditors. Is that really considered an "improvement", or do most original users see it as a decline they either need to suck up, or move to a more underground/obscure site since their original base was ruined by normies? The main issue at hand is that such "new" audiences generally do not share the same interests, values, or background as the original base, and thus there is no longer a sense of camaraderie. If you go back a decade, anyone else who likes anime/JP media would probably be a fast friend who relates in many ways. Nowadays, even a significant portion of jocks and normies will just gush about Demon Slayer or JJK, but they have literally nothing in common with diehard weebs who have gone down the LN/WN/VN rabbit hole of obscure weeb media. Sure, there is always the possibility of crossover where obscure loners can sometimes come out of their shells and connect with the normies, but for most socially stunted autists and loners, that probably won't happen, and there is no longer a space for those shutins to connect with each other. It's similar to how this is primarily a Hololive board, and no one who likes idol culture wants to see a sudden twitch invasion from Nijisisters and Vshojo. However, when there are Mori/Kronii tier normies in Hololive already, even that culture is already tainted and we just have to accept that.

I've spent years masquerading as a normie IRL (gymbro, club athletics, fraternity, university club president, etc), and honestly it's absolutely exhausting to keep up that act. As soon as I secured the funds for a modest retirement early on, I noped out of that world and prefer to be completely honest with myself and my interests as a shutin autist weeb. At this stage, I don't need or want this board to be filled with normies who look down on the /r9k/ tier viewers who just want to enjoy the GFE to cope with loneliness of being foreveralone, since that IS the core demographic for a significant portion of vtubers. We just want to enjoy our loner loser hobbies in peace, and perhaps even have a nice forum to express/share those thoughts for others who might relate or benefit from them.

>>59766197
Vtubers. Dating and hookups are for gullible retards.

>>59774008
Dating and hookups are for *normies. Also, gotta love that the OP implies that most of the viewers here have a choice. We simply take what we can get, and at least vtubers are free.

>>59766197
As this thread has some good anon posts I'll share my own 2 shekels for being single nearly 10 years now for having impossible standards in women despite being nowhere near worthy of it.

First thing is that you'll never get used to the loneliness, you just learn to ignore the lesser pangs as background noise, humans are inherently social creatures unless you lucked out on the type of recluse personality you rolled during birth. But it didn't matter for me, I chose my fate so I just keep my friend needs to a few irl and for more intimate needs I get them from vtubers or escorts(perk is sexcations are a blast). Yes I understand that ultimately relationships IRL is about lowering your expectations first, then slowly trying to shape each other into a compromise of ideals which often is the cause of relationship breakdowns, but I'm a fucker who has to perfect reroll gachas by hand even if I can buy accounts online.

Second is while you cope in your arduous wait for the right one or none to finish this kusoge of life with is to 'improve yourself', in the actually self-loving sort of way since if you can still read this post means you aren't a successful suicide case or probably don't have the courage to go all the way. Exercise, but to be healthy and have a healthy routine instead of just eat sleep and work, start small, 5 push ups then 10 squats if you have to(find guides that work the correct muscles). Then go at it your pace but keep it consistent, it'd eventually work up to motivation for actually going for a walk-jog-run. Its not the cure to depression like people say but it will help. Don't give a shit enough to be healthy for yourself? Then do it for family, your oshi, your imaginary future wife to get the spark going if you have to.

>>59775242
Third, physical health can be and endless marathon but more immediate is mental health, for this I learn to take to philosophy and school of thoughts like stoicism, meditations, book of five rings, ikigai whatever, you don't need to stick with one, just keep reading and practice the ones that's most reasonable and comfortable to you. I even manage to hitch an overseas job just to run away but all I learnt was that you cannot run from yourself, so this philosophies are the gyms and weapons you need to struggle for your inner peace.

I'm currently upper middle class and fairly good with people in my awkward goofy way when I need to, not everybody will like you but in keeping to yourself nobody will hate you either. Pitiful people surely have their contemptful points that made them that way but that's okay.

Harder is when they start trying to matchmake you once you start getting somewhere, or girls just being nice to you will sometimes still make your heart race. If you are a loyal person by nature (as seen from you having an oshi) giving in and committing to these flights of impulse without making sure the women tick your most important boxes whether it be personality, how they treat their family or yours, in relationship fidelity, money management etc will just increase your chances to being in a loveless relationship once the passion cools off.

Know that at the end of despair, there's no one else, not your most loved or hated things, obsessions that drove you mad in life, only you. Then you will understand why happiness, or at least contentment, was always a choice.
I'm half-mad but I'm now content with my lot in life. Maybe you can too.

>>59775242
Man...."handrolling gachas while I could buy an account" hits deep. Over 50 rerolls for Mihoyo games, and those take nearly an hour each, but I powered through anyways despite being REALLY not worth the time.

As for the rest of your post, I completely relate to the idea of having "impossible standards". The way I think about it: even if I'm a 6-7 on a good day, I still want the 10/10 model looking JAV star or at least cute yamato nadeshiko type, not the frumpy "average" feminist you see these days. If there's a clear points differential in looks, we just have to compensate in other ways. For instance, I've dealt with plenty of menhera girls who are so broken emotionally that they basically drop down their score from a 9 down to my level (which I suppose helps that I have a background in counseling/therapy). That said, these girls are such landmines that I know it will eventually ruin my life, and the sheer amount of effort required to maintain them is such that it would unironically be easier to spend those hours working my actual dayjob and pay for an escort with equal or greater looks without the ticking time bomb risk. Outside of the sexpat vacations, GFE ASMR can temporarily fill in the void. As you send, it's like hunger pangs. Once you ignore it for a while, it kinda goes away, but never completely. Vtubers will never completely fill in that need (and neither will escorts), but at least it takes the edge off that hunger akin to a small snack.

Overall solid advice on self-improvement, and it's something I definitely went through to go from a chubby nerd into a gym-fit fake-extrovert who could effectively do public speaking and client-facing product management work. That said, more recently I end up just doing the bare minimum (at least the physique doesn't decay too quickly) and end up in a rut of emptiness/semi-depression quite often despite achieving most of the markers of success. At the end of the day, gym, mental health and philosophy can make you a more successful and educated person, and can even take the edge off the suicidal depression, but I don't think there will ever be a complete fix. Similarly, as someone who spends far too much time reading/watching documentaries or analysis videos about philosophy, history, and the like, I don't think you can necessarily study your way to happiness, but it indeed gives you perspectives and a skillset that can limit disastrously bad decisions (like marriage!).

Lastly, in regards to matchmaking and relationships, I think I've already summed up my views in >>59773576, but the ultimate realization is that nothing good comes out of chasing women as your primary goal. Self improve, and they will come: if you spend all your time wooing a woman, if she leaves, you have nothing. If you self improved and get a GF, even if she leaves, you have the skillset and background to replace her. Coming from a super traditional Asian background, there's the dissonance of parents being SUPER anti-dating throughout youth, and then suddenly flipping the switch to "where GF/when wedding/grandkids when?" That said, even such traditional conservative views based in Confucianism are inherently designed for gold digging at its core, and suddenly you see used up artsy/dancer type ABG girls suddenly reach 30 and start reaching out for the loner nerdy compsci engineer who makes 300-500k. Sure, good relationships exist (in theory), but you live each day walking a tightrope with a bomb strapped to your chest. Optimistically it will never go off and you can lead a happy, healthy life, but the risk always exists and perhaps the tragedy is that ignorance is bliss: once you see the risk of divorce and lose faith in the system, you can't go back to Disney fairy tale innocence.

>>59766684
That's pretty sweet. Fuck them hoes

ITT autism

>>59776147
>>59766684
I think this is generally the sentiment shared by many of the previously divorced boomers who head up the MGTOW movement. Basically self-enforced monk mode due to an inability to love and trust, which is completely understandable.
Definitely respect the process of healing with your oshi to find a new sense of purpose and optimism. That said, I would still warn against the potential dangers of becoming too parasocial and maintaining a healthy distance without going overboard with donations (which I see you seem to already be managing well). Overall, treat vtubers as something akin to your favorite 2d anime waifu or favorite girl in a dating sim game. They do provide a service and deserve a small tip for their work just like any other service worker, but this fanbase is full of gachi schizos who go too far and lose touch with reality. Sounds like you are doing well, and hope you find some sort of happiness in the future, even if it's without any IRL women and stays within the realms of 2d waifuism.

>>59766197
Here is the solution. Join her.

>>59766684
Your Oshi has a boyfriend. You are a pathetic defeated simp.

ITT: Delusion.
Your Oshi is not your girlfriend, get it through your thick skull. SHES NOT YOUR GIRLFRIEND.
You are subpar, dysgenic little men living a confortable lie.
It's the depressing reality of the modern world, the elites have completely demoralised you and broken you into submission.
You have given up on he possibility of ever having a real wife, a real family and community for an ersatz virtual girlfriend that you can only interact with through their approved channel, by paying money no less.

AI girlfriends are coming and the number of pacified sad fucks crawling about in their own fantasy world is going to increase exponentially.
They won. It's over.

>>59766366
Nta but I think everyone here shares this sentiment to OP.

>>59777474
The main problem is that "they" have already brainwashed women to do their bidding, thus you can no longer have a "real wife" or "real family". The few "tradcon" influencers and women left are just as bad and are simple grifters who tell men to sacrifice themselves for the greater good of society/boost birthrates etc. The simple biological fact of male disposability ensures that no one ever cares about how the guy does, only that women are provided for at their expense. Divorce is rigged, most marriages are unhappy, birth rates are dead in the entire first world, and most men simply are not "good enough" to ever get a date/relationship much less marriage/family/kids. SJWs and feminists have become the useful idiots the elites needed to distract from the 2008 financial crisis and continued economic stagnation now where most men can't earn enough to ever afford the American dream. Instead, we now we see a divided population of men and women who no longer have any future together and will just lead to a decline in society. Wake up, leave the west, and enjoy your cheap SEA hookers while you still can.

Yes, she is not your girlfriend. She is a paid emotional prostitution provider that lonely men turn to instead since they cannot afford an IRL wife and the subsequent divorce/child payment costs. She is also a grifter looking for your money like any other whore, but there are good honest whores who genuinely enjoy their job, or at least provide top tier service while pretending to enjoy it. It's not genuine, but genuine was never an option so this is the next best thing.

Vtubers are just the temporary stopgap measure where we use humans to pilot avatars until neurosama and chatgpt become convincing enough to play the role of a customizable oshi. AI GFs will be the next stage in total government control, akin to the Chinese spyware network where insurrection becomes literally impossble. However, at this stage, what other option is there? Unless we see a total upheaval in society or wait another 50-100 years for the political pendulum to swing back, this generation is already lost. Only the top 10-20% can rest on their laurels and have their harems while the rest at least have their video games, onaholes, and AI waifus to keep them happy. Bread and circuses exist for a reason, but if we are all screwed anyways, we can at least enjoy those creature comforts until everything collapses.

>>59766684
Have you ever considered the idea that it's a (YOU) problem?

>>59780060
Yikes, have some empathy...but that's too much to ask from /here/.

To some extent, yes it could also be a (you) problem, but it takes two to tango, so it's equally likely that he picks poorly, and that there are a LOT of poor choices to pick from and that a good option may or may not even exist (or at least be so exceedingly rare it's not likely).

Maybe anon has a yandere menhera fetish like I do, which inherently means we will only be attracted to the craziest, least mentally stable women that will almost guaranteed blow up in our face. Yes, it is a (you) problem, but perhaps not one that is fixable. Instead, the smart choice is to keep that fetish to 2d and swear off IRL menheras. The winning move is not to play.

>>59776974
If she has one I really hope it's a good lad, the girl deserves all the best.
Defeated? Sure, there's no denying that. I already accepted that fact.
Simp? I never really understood the meaning, how is it different from giving a tip to the waitress for a good and exemplary service?

>>59773283
Good. Non-functional autists should either kill themselves or get dragged out into the sunlight and either be forced to improve themselves or chased out of their niche by normies until there's no room for them to run. I loathe seeing retards like the majority of /vt/ who can't remotely function in normal environments. Waste of fucking space and resources.

i miss haachama

>>59780229
For those who are mentally sane and not gachi schizos, your answers are indeed correct. The main question lies in how much you donate and whether you are genuinely in love with your oshi. If you are akasupa'ing or have donated more than you would reasonably give to an IRL waitress, you are simping. If just regular membering/tipping for good service, that's fine (although why pay when you can just enjoy the content for free and let the oil barons subsidize everyone else). Unless she's a literal who 2view, other paypigs will cover the tab and she'll be just fine without your $5. Go buy yourself something nice with that, it probably means a lot more to you than a wealthy millionaire corpo girl with thousands of simps.
Same idea as your favorite escort having a BF/personal life. Good for her, as long as she provides good service, that's all that matters. The whole point of not wanting exclusivity is that you don't need to cover all her costs (classic example is wealthy execs who literally buy mansions for each of their mistresses and cover all their costs). Unless you are a literal oil baron, you're better off just getting the service you want by the hour, and let her spend the 99% of the rest of her life without you needing to foot the bill. Never buy what you can rent, especially things that float, fly, or fornicate.

>>59780060
Yes it's a me problem, I picked poorly and repeating like a parrot what I was told: To build a successful relationship you need to be equals and trust each other. I give too much of myself, too much time, energy and feelings, making the other party feel suffocated and pressured, to others I give the feeling that I will always be there and take me for granted. No idea if this is true or not as I know I'm not the best at self-analysis.

>>59780192
And yes... I somehow attract and end up feeling attracted to menheras

>>59780271
If you're speaking for the normies....have you ever considered that normies with a successful IRL have better things to do than watch a 30yo hag pretend to be a teenage anime girl for hours at a time? Go socialize with friends, have a few drinks at the bar, fire up a dating app, play a sport, hit the gym, get a hobby, play with your wife/kids etc. Given you're still /here/ of all places, odds are that you aren't a true high-functioning normie or you wouldn't set foot in this godforsaken land. At most you're a slightly higher functioning autist lording over your less functional bretheren, but at the end of the day, we are all failures who consume anime and video games as the bread and circuses of the downtrodden masses. See >>59780037

>>59777474
We do not care, get it throught your skull, WE.DO.NOT.CARE.
We don't want to date the person because we know it's a fucking entitled Vtuber, we want the girls being cute with others girl, period. We couldn't give a single fuck who she fucks, dates on the private, the consensus is that they don't bring that shit on stream and we're good and if you decide to go around looking for doxx you're not only a shit human being but a retard, streaming is not their life and the only people who stream ungodly hours can be counted with one hand if you think they don't have time to speak to male friends.
You want all that shit happening on stream? cool, you do you, there is Vshojo, Nijisanji, IdolEN, Phaseconnect, Mythic and the entirety of indies on twich/youtube for your own liking, don't fucking come here and DEMAND everything to change to your liking because you're on a fucking crusade to liberate the ''poor millionaire'' women who work 1-3hrs a day putting a facade with as much free time as you want if you don't want to stream.

>>59780666
Bold of you to assume I watch the streams when there are already 2-3 minute curated clips for the times I am not busy with anything else. As for being /here/, I thought we're all here just to shitpost? This place is no different than twitter or reddit for me.

>>59780582
Simple mistake to make...drinking the feminist/SJW kool-aid about what they want, and then they proceed to choose the exact opposite. Classic case of "don't ask a fish how to catch a fish, ask a fisherman". You were simply given awful advice and never truly manned up to reach self-actualization: don't chase women or seek out a relationship, if you're successful they will swarm you to leech off your success. In theory actually productive partnerships are possible, but it's not our grandparent's generation anymore so the odds aren't great.
Considering our shared menhera fetish, it's safe to say that you should also be banned from any IRL relationships ever. Escorts are probably the way to go, shop around for your desired appearance and they will all inevitably be complete menheras with daddy issues, all without needing to invest any emotional commitment beyond what you want to put in for fun.

>>59780666
Cheers to that, comrade. I hate people speaking from glass houses more than anything because of the hypocrisy; not even a shred of self-awareness while preaching to be above others

>>59780818
Wow, clipwatcher, twitter, AND reddit? Brave of you to admit you are everything wrong with this board while posting here. If you are as happy and successful as you claim, you should have better things to do than argue with "non-functional autists" that are "wastes of fucking space and resources". Get a life and let the poor downtrodden at least have some comfort in licking each other's wounds without your need to oppress the very few people who are worse off than you.

>>59780582
Are you a fandead by any chance?

>>59780855
What do you mean?

>>59780915
Woosh

>>59781447
Rushia my beloved....gone too soon. Mikeneko just isn't the same since I'm a filthy EOP and need to rely on fansubs. Crazy yandere menhera is the best archetype, ESPECIALLY when she doesn't even need to act. The yabs and drama is PART of the entertainment, like an augmented reality game to figure out what is real and what's kayfabe. At some point they blend together and we have the optimal landmine GFE. Shiori was promised to be the EN Rushia, and we are still desperately looking for a yandere alternative.

>>59766197
Tldr, next time try to add some clips of family guy funny moments and/or holocure gameplay for me to properly engage with you post

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>>59766197
Cope
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Based
>>59777474
Projection and dilate.

>>59781932
Wow, we actually managed to reach ER posting....we have truly become /r9k/ lite. Remember the april fools where boards got merged like /mlpol/? We need vt+r9k to see whether we can shill our prototype-AI GFE chuubas to a whole new demographic of lonely men, while the incels try to push average weebs into becoming sissy trap vtubers instead. There clearly is a market for falsetto voice "female" vtubers and some of them are pretty darn convincing.

desu i know i'm unfit for a relationship and i'm repulsed by the idea of myself having sex plus i have low libido. Like i'm unironically fine with just being strung along by vtubers and gacha in addition my to other hobbies because i understand that even if i did manage to be less of a sperg and approach people more that i don't have a place here and would be lying to myself.

Also shion cunny

>>59781447
I found Rushia a few weeks maybe a bit more than a month before her graduation so no, I didn't even get the chance to be a fandead

>>59782064
Shut the fuck up you fucking coping redditnigger

>>59781486
The expression illustrates how fragile and exposed their foundation is when expressing an opinion.
I'm referring to the anon that is too invested in being malicious towards others on this board, pretending to be superior

>>59782099
Very honest post that probably conveys the sentiment for a good portion of the posters here. Realistically speaking, even if we managed to find a GF IRL, we'd be horribly nonfunctioning and unable to sustain any form of meaningful relationship. Combination of autism, spergery, narcissism, egomania, and the like would certainly cause any relationship to implode within a matter of seconds.

I think this ultimately came down to my realization that I don't want a real person or any kind of real meaningful relationship, I want a cutesy anime girl to pamper me. Even if I could date their RM, I wouldn't want to deal with an actual person and prefer the convenience of a parasocial relationship: she offers service, I don't need to offer anything in return. In practical realistic terms, this basically comes out to hiring a maid and an escort to fulfill their side of the relationship, and I can use cash to substitute any form of emotional effort. For example, it's much easier to hand off a few bucks to get a SEA maid to wash the dishes, versus asking your GF/wife to help with it, and needing to do a series of nice things/be thoughtful or supportive/deal with menhera attacks in return. Simple, clean, and efficient, and much less risk of getting divorced/sued etc.

I'm not reading that.

>>59782099
How the hell are you repulsed by the idea of sex or have low libido AND post a sexually suggestive Shion picture? While not deliberately trying to, there has been a day where I've felt compelled to masturbate to her fan-created content 5 times within the day

>>59782464
I'm repulsed by the idea of myself having sex, not sex in general and while being my libido being low i can still get sometimes (like maybe 1-2 times a month)

>>59782456
Don't get me wrong, i've alteast tried talking to women and such but the realization, or rather the reminder of all this stuff comes rushing back. Somewhat even worse in my case since i'm submissive and have a femdom kink but i know full well not even that would work due to the aforementioned autism/spergy and the fact i prefer being alone at this point, not to mention i'm incapable of offering to make me worthwhile
>have silent seizures
>can't really cook due to above because when i did i blacked out burned down a hotel microwave
>Can't drive
>shit motor skills

>>59782456
>Combination of autism, spergery, narcissism, egomania
Nice projection. Only two of those things apply to me.

>>59766684
>3 times I committed, 3 times I was cheated on and last one was months before the wedding.
Not an incel, still cheated on 3 times.
LITERALLY EVERYTHING WRONG IS WOM*NS FAULT

FUCK ALL FAGGOTS ITT KYS KYS KYS YOU WILL ALWAYS BE A NORMIE-LICKER AND NEVER HAVE ACTUAL STATUS IN NONCIETY.

WE ARE QCTUAL CHADS WHO HAVE DEALT WITH REALITY

FEMALES, FAGGOTS, LOW-TIER NORMIES ITT KYS

>>59783159
cunny...

I love my oshi
Ive been treating her more religiously then anything else so when im feeling down i can think to do it for her rather then myself
Hard day at work, keep going as your oshi would be sad to see you giving up
Just having something greater then yourself in life is nice

>>59766197
>ive tried interacting with women irl but due to where i am ive found most are just political activists
I guarantee these are just normal women but /pol/ and /r9k/ has rotted your brain so much you can't comprehend it.

>>59784464
Its just normal bro
>its just normal bro

>>59766197
>vtubers
>relationships
please go outside

>>59766197
>>>/r9k/
and never come back

>>59782788
jesas, there are actual dysgenics on this board
now i have no excuse to iMprOvE mYsELf since theres nothing phyiscally wrong with me, im just lazy, addicted to the internet and a sperg

>>59786598
well, its bound to happen when your mother's while carrying you and the father being older than both your mother and grandmother

>>59787040
*when your mother was a drug addict while carrying you

>>59787087
In Manila the doctors say a couple drinks won't hurt the baby.

>>59766197
I really wish I didn't read all that.

>>59788685
she was on coke and a bunch of other stuff, i recall them saying i had FAS or something to that effect

>>59766197
TLDR, short version where.

>>59766310
BASED

>>59789275
tldr is that OP is an r9k tourist who thinks vtubers are camgirls

>>59766197
I don't invest in a relationship with vtubers for the same reason I don't spend money in live service games. One day it'll announce end of service (graduation) and you'll have nothing to show for it but statements on your bank account. Hook ups never have any permanence either unless you get accused of rape or get an STD and neither of those are positive either.
I'll take my chances with marriage
>but divorce rates
Unironic skill issue, learn to read people and how to communicate before you start trying to marry someone.

You can't have a relationship with a vtuber.

>>59789558
Mostly based, until it comes to marriage. Odds are you'll get wrecked in divorce (or you get to spend your entire life in TWO MORE WEEK purgatory, where things are fine all the way up until the day it's not). Look at all the tradcon "influencers" who keep telling guys to get married to be happy, and end up getting absolutely destroyed in divorce shortly after. The only reliable path to some form of permanence is only self-investment, since any other person can betray or take advantage of you. Good on you to see through "investing" in vtubers, but someday you'll realize IRL is very similar to the same.

>>59766197
I'll say it. Sometimes life deals you a bad hand for a while, and it starts to look like you have no other options. However, those things are not mutually exclusive anon. It always makes me happy to hear about how our community has given folks something to strive for, if you're happy rn watching your 2view and that is activelly making you your better self great for you! But don't let that shit limit your options, if eventually you want to look for one of those other kinds of relationships go for it. You now have a place to fall back to once stuff starts getting a bit too overwhelming, and in the same you stroke gold and found your oshi it takes a bit of filtering and looking into niches to find someone worth your time. Anyway thanks for your blogpost, hope mine has some value for you as well!