/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

No. Numberfagging. Graduations.

Aye, my Niji oshi Amamya doing aight for herself

>click on thread
>verify if Pekora is still at the top
>Sucessfully confirm it
>Leave

>>5957945
How the fuck does Russia do it?

>>5957945
Huh nijiniggers bros where's lulu?

>>5957945
How'd you get a graph without delta?

>>5958434
Graduated? It's daily so Coco will be gone off this list by tomorrow too. Although I suppose since OP didn't use another trend site while vnuma is on maint, he would've just switched to weekly if it passed 24h since Coco's graduation.

>>5955710
It's public so you can just search カバー株式決算 and it should be easy to find. It's supposed to be out on the 17th, and will show March 2020 - March 2021. Then people are going to have to wait till April 2022 for Anycolor's report for the same time period if they want to be tribal. Assuming Cover did better than Ichikara did in March 2019 - March 2020, or else there's no point unless Niji declined hard last year and this.

>>5958068
how much do you think she can get from graduation

>>5958536
isnt she an utaite and not a Vtuber?

Coco took out so many records with her on the graduation as a final fuck you.

TICK TOCK KIZUN-- oh wait, already done.

>>5958685
It would be a good way to see how the company is doing and how much the boom affected their financials.
Since it includes Feburary we should see Holofes and Bloom concert have an affect.

>>5959936
Ain't gonna like, I expect triple-digit growth for Hololive given their meteoric rise in 2020.

>>5961147
>like
lie*

>>5959909
How the FUCK does Gura sustain that massive fucking growth holy shit

>>5961174
She is very cute
AND very funny

>>5961174
the more people seethe about her numbers the more powerful she gets

>>5961147
>>5961171
I'd expect from next year more honestly.
Last year was their popularity boom. This year looks like their sponsorship boom.

>>5961278
>>5961211
The power of this shark

If you want to see something mind-blowing google image search 400k people or 500k people. Pic related.

>>5961174
Nobody really knows. The weeb population is very varied, so I don't think you're gonna find a common factor.

>>5961174
you think it will ramp up when she gets more public exposure at anime expo?

>>5961590
At first I thought that was Tomorrowland, but I realized that it didn't look high tech at all...

Is that... Woodstock? Fuck.

too powerful...

>>5961907
All the orange girls made it to top 10.
Tomoe being the lone female representative for Nijisanij.

>click on thread
>verify if Aqua is not at the top
>Sucessfully confirm it
>Leave

>>5962068
I don't know what's holding aqua back from grinding streams like Pekora. Just take kaichou's advice and ignore Antis, that's it.

>>5961907
did kanae channel do anything special or is this just because he's streaming all the time

>>5961907
How does it make you feel to know that the YoY growth displays all of 2020 vs only 1/2 of the 2021 time frame?

>>5961323
Judging by the above, triple digit growth doesn't seem so far fetched.

>>5962152
She's focusing more on the idol aspect for now it seems. She has dance lessons and possibly college that makes her too tired to stream at night. That's why she's only been streaming on the weekends

>>5962206
He just streams all the time, and actually had a lot more Apex streams where he sticks to the game compared to Kuzuha who switched to variety. Superchat rankings for Niji are effectively just who had the most/largest events in that time period, but Kanae is one of the only outliers in that he streams inhuman hours regularly.

>>5958010
Fuck you I'll numberfag what I want. if one of them did a suicide stream I'd be right there checking the numbers

>>5961907
Hololive is unstoppable

>>5962381
Fair enough

top 5! just right under Capcom.

https://twitter.com/BUSHIM_ongaku/status/1410780266168266753?s=19

It seems hololive 2nd fest got 1st at weekly oricon charts, can anybody get the exact sales number from the oricon site? I still haven't done my reps

>>5962737
Perfect number to land in. Yonkisei forever.

>>5961174
Her number got boost by the Korean in the last 2 months

>>5961808
Hopefully yes

The cocock is big and strong

>>5962741
They don't seem to have any numbers on that category for some reason.
https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/dbm/w/2021-07-05/

>>5962741
https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/bm/w/2021-07-05/
https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/bd/w/2021-07-05/

#1 for Music Blu-Rays which frankly, is not a very competitive ranking. Predicted sales are 12266. For the anon who unironically thought Holo was as big as FGO or Uma musume, the Uma musume Bluray is predicted to sell 150k copies. It just means there's room to grow, but it's pretty weird to compare through live viewers when that's what vtubers specialize in.

>>5962741
says 12.2k in the BD section.
https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/bd/w/2021-07-05/

>>5963063
>>5963077
Does it mean they've sold 12.2k copies already or something else?

>>5963063
>>5963185
If they have or when they do, that's a cool 1.3 million bucks in revenue. Just off of the Blu-Ray.

>>5963185
Generally Oricon only puts confirmed sales so yes.
It's still adding a nice chunk of change to the profits of their concert.

>>5963063
I know that overseas sales don't count on oricon but i wonder how much it actually fares, cuz i saw that 2nd fest got rank 2 on amiami BD sales ranking while i ordered korone's figure some days ago.

Do sales figures for nendoroids ever get released?
It'd be interesting to see how much Hololive sells with their nendoroid line.

>>5963063
>Love live is predicted to sell 16k copies
if anything Hololive is in the same tier

>>5964122
Only 16k?
I thought love live was way bigger?

>>5964122
I hope they could make their own anime/manga. The concept of idols in another world would be so good.

>>5963976
I know it's kinda pathetic but i just see the number of orders on myfigurecollection site every now and then to gauge a figure's popularity, from there i can see that aqua's nendo sold more than kuzuha's, but i know that the order numbers is user submitted and only EOPs uses that site so it's not perfect.

>>5964211
true, its a bit unique as far as I know, so its a niche Hololive can exploit for media purposes.

>>5964211
well holoalt exist

>>5964237
I saw Matsuri was top 5 for a few days after he figure got announced on amiami.
How many nendoroids did nijisanji get?

>>5964122
Well, Love live is like 5 years past it's prime at this point.

>>5963185
>>5963290
Yes, it says estimated, but they're basically confirmed sales up to that point. Estimated just means, whatever data they get from their sources.

>>5963898
Considering Holo's overseas audience, probably matters a bit but we'll never know those numbers and I wouldn't put too much stock into a single retailer's rankings.

>>5963976
GSC doesn't release those numbers.

>>5964329
>Well, Love live is like 5 years past it's prime at this point.
yeah, but their franchise sell a shit ton of merch

>>5964303
they got himawari, kuzuha, and mito

>>5961211

VNUMA is up.
Go grab your today's numbers before it goes down randomly again, anon.

>>5957945
I'm gonna watch ibrahim's 3D debut and laugh as I know there's no way he's gonna beat Coco's record or Tomoe's record while also slipping a $50 to subaru's stream.

>>5962737
pikachu.. LOST..

>>5964791
but you will still watch...?

>>5964911
As much as I hate nijis, their 3D debuts is something else. Past debuts was pretty unpleasant for me since they're winning in numbers and 3D tech but after yesterday, I can finally watch them with a smirk.

>>5961174
Even by general standards 3 million subs in less than 1 year it's pretty fucking ridiculous. Who else have done that? Most channels take several years just for 1 million unless they are big corpo driven like Disney or something.

>>5961808
Not really.
Anime expos are for hardcore weebs. There's no way they wouldn't already know about her.

>>5964597
He's STILL rounding down to the nearest thousand what the fuck?

>>5965053
Does Holo not count as big corpo driven? "small indie company" and everything, but let's not pretend Gura was on the same playing field as people who started their channel from 0.

this thread smells like incels

>>5965249
No. Cover is basically on the same level as a, say, double A dev studio, like falcom or gust.
Also are you seriously comparing cover to Disney?

>>5965416
If only some SEA countries are allowed to super chat

>>5965416
Why is it converted to euro?

>>5965354
>as people who started their channel from 0
Is specifically to show I'm not comparing them to Disney. Disney level is not the only thing to qualify for big corpo, and is not what is required to hit 3 mil in less than a year. Is is impressive? Yes, but calling it ridiculous is implying it's never seen before or something.

>>5965416
Your bar graph is missing USD

>>5965053
https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/YouTube_Records

>>5965249
I mean true, you can argue that the Hololive and first EN branch boost is a thing, but Gura's growth has been quite massive compared to even her own genmates.

RABBIT SHIT LOSES TO NIJI LMAO

>>5958882
With Coco completely manhandling the Superchat/Live viewer rankings. What will nijibros brag about next time?

Coco graduated to BTFO nijiniggers supposed "records" LMAOOO

>>5962737
And she would've toppled all those brands if it wasn't for Susan and her meddling interns.

>>5966564
Nothing. It's all downhill from now.

>>5962152
That worked well for Coco

>>5965825
Compared to the whole VTuber industry, really, but not necessarily to the rest of the entertainment industry.

>>5965888
eop and chinksect buff, who cares

A hololive without Coco is like eating curry rice without any plates. How do You cope knowing that from now onwards, you will be eating from the floor like the nijidogs?

>>5966564
Realistically nothing, but we should only use her legacy in the most desperate of circumstances due to how valuable it is. In the meantime Gura's numbers have not been beaten by outside competition, so numberfag with those until Coco's numbers are required.

>>5968615
fuck off, this is a numbers thread.

>>5966564
Nothing, we don't give a shit. Hololive could get 1 million subs and 1 million views and if nijisanji exists and still is successful to exist, that's more than enough.

>>5968739
Maybe we should come up with a system and set boundaries after all. Numberfapping is one thing, but shitposting and falseflagging is kinda annoying.

>>5964791
I'm a Holofan, but this is honestly pathetic.

>Gura made subscribers count pointless
>Coco made live viewers count pointless
>Pekora made live viewers average pointless
>Rushia will make SC count pointless
COMPLETE
HOLO
DOMINATION

>>5964791
>>5969431
I was the one claiming that Ibrahim would get higher SCs than Coco for her graduation. I was falseflagging and dropped it after Coco made $303k.

vtuber idol vs real idol.

>>5970146
retardchama.. there's only one vtuber "idol" on that list....

>>5957945
>giving money to chink apologists

>>5961174
HERfags who won't let it go boosted her to the top of the chain, so it made her proxy famous in comparison to the rest of the stable making her the go-to choice for the average viewer to digest, and without the debuff of needing subs, made it easier to consume her content.

It's really like supporting a sports team, you do fuckall to actually directly help the team, but you want to belong to it so you become a fan of it for a reason you can justify (local, popular, like the color/mascot). Bandwagon kicks in, and the barrel keeps rolling. As long as Gura does anything they can share with their friends, that count keeps ticking up.

>>5970347
All Hololive are idols, faggot. Cope and seethe.

>>5970459
I feel like having a 4 letter name and being a shark is also a pretty big buff. You can just search "shark girl" in youtube to find her and you can't really do that for most other holos.

>>5965416
56% are nips and 44% are mix of EOP. So who said that Coco is just pure EOP? That was stupid. Or that the ration is like 30% nips? Retards. Just the amount of $189k from nips already shatters the previous record

>Subaru already a millionaire

>>5970754
Oh shit. Congratulations Subaru! What a great present for her birthday.

>>5970586
Anyone who says anything along the lines "muh EOP percentage" is a salty nijinigger/vytard who somehow crawled their way out of their squatters den in jp, pay them no mind.

>>5969883
There is still meaning in the daily viewers flow. Who is on top day to day etc. IF there wasn't, then numberfagging would become obsolete.

>>5970754
Next stop: Ayame. She has great growth (similar to Botan) even when not streaming and has great live viewers numbers.
She’s the embodiment of “work smart not hard”. Funnily enough she achieves that by doing everything Shion openly stated to desire: having a casual schedule.

It’s the personality that makes a difference: Ayame goes for cute and vulnerable, Shion goes for brash and bratty.

>>5970586
It was her final stream though, so everyone came together.
On previous monthly lists she had 86% in Yen, the JP Tasunoko just donate more consistently

>>5965221
Vnuma only scraps like every 5 mins or so, maybe even 10, so it misses a lot of peaks.

>>5958431
girlfriend experience. its her specialty

>>5961590
Imagine the smell

>>5970754
Man I totally missed this one. A lot of shit has been happening and I don't really keep track of millions much after the first 5 or so. Lost the novelty desu.

Congrats to Subaru though, deserves it a lot.

>>5971920
weed, body odor and cheap beer.

Hololive landing a collaboration with Evangelion
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1410841544614047744

If they play this right it could be huge

>>5972236
Holofan here, but this not important or relevant in a numbers thread. Please keep it in hololive global.

>>5972400
It is anon, one of the recurring topics in this thread is speculation about the amount of income the companies get from various sources: tickets, merchandise and yes, collabs.

>nigger makes half a million in a day
what level is this?

>>5970547
coco should be in guiness for this

>>5962737
I thought Nintendo got almost 1M live viewers on their presentation last time?

>>5973117
This is Nintendo Japan, not the international stream

I did some analysis because we now have the strange situation where the most superchatted channel in the world is inactive, and I was wondering how long it will take the rest to catch up. Using monthly averages for this year, this is how long it will take for Coco to fall down in the rankings.
Rushia will knock her off the top spot this October, she's obviously an absolute monster when it comes to superchats but it will still take her over 3 months to catch an opponent that isn't moving anymore.
Marine and Pekora will take the other two spots to knock her out of the top 3 in November and December respectively of 2022. That's a year and a half away, or the same amount of time Coco was active for in total.
Kanata and Calli will overtake her to make the top 5 in October and November 2023, followed by Lamy in December.
Aqua and Kiara will overtake her in March 2024, then Gura in May. In July 2024, a full 3 years after her graduation she'll still be in the top 10. Then finally in August Watame will beat her to finally take her out of it.
Obviously this is assuming that the numbers don't fluctuate much, that no other big hitters will graduate, at that nobody will debut and compete with the big names, so don't take this as an actual prediction. But it really puts into perspective just how much money Kaichou made in so little time to how long everyone else will take to do that at their current rates.

>>5972995
guiness is a scam. you pay to get awarded for anything

>>5973312
>Calli
I have to say this impresses me. None of the EN girls go for the easy route of "GFE", what is the Calli biggest draw for the money to pour in? Time spent reading the SCs?

I bet nijisanji dominated the rankings 2-25 on July 1st.

>>5973369
Calli could have been the biggest GFE for EN, but she thinks the cringe isn't worth the easy money.

>>5973395
>I bet nijisanji dominated the rankings 2-25 on July 1st.
Not even close.
https://vnuma.net/en/trend/

>>5973312
>puts into perspective just how much money Kaichou made in
She reminds me of Robert Redford, which >peaked in the 60s on stage, TV and films
>had a relatively "short" mainstream from "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" in 69 to "All the President's Men " in 76
>left it all to pursue his creative vision as a director in the 80s with great success
then mostly dropped even that to focus on independent moviemaking.

He had enough "fuck you" money right from the bat so he decided to focus on what made him happy and accomplished regardless of commercial success. Not a very numberfag-worthy sentiment but good for him.

>>5973395
Lmao, no see>>5965221

>>5973421
>Calli could have been the biggest GFE for EN
Really? I think she lacks the Moe the heavy hitters in this are (Rushia, Lamy) display.
Calli could fill the "tomboy girlfriend" niche tho but she's right: moe works phenomenally well in Japanese but in English it's cringe as fuck

>>5973483
Oh shit, I thought with all of hololive taking prime time off it would boost nijisani.

>>5973312
Amazing how holos are earning more than $1k up to $30k+ a week on top of merch and sponsorships. If Shion, Ayame and Haato comes back, there would be another spike in their graph.

>>5973532
Moe works universally. Everyone would throw money at a pink-haired tomboy girlfriend doing asmr or reading your superchats if you are able to make it creative and less cringy. I just don't like the fact that she's playing games instead because she's bad at games and commentary.

>>5973551
Alot of holos started streams right after to get their feelings off their chest and that attracted alot of listless people who were at a loss after coco's stream ended.
Basically everyone who streamed on that day received a massive boost

Pekors will probably have a low number today since she is continuing on streaming a heavy debuff game(Danganronpa 2)

>>5973772
There's no beating Ibrahim's 3D debut anyways. Today is Niji's day. Marine should still get 25k+ with Outlast 2 tho.

>>5973824
It's just gonna be Marine, Pekora and Subaru on the high rankings today. EN's schedule is pretty weak this week.

>>5973994
Subaru is having her birthday and one million celebration today, so it might hit unexpectedly high

>>5973667
>Moe works universally.
There is more to moe than just the GFE, that's why I made distinction with "tomboy gf experience".
Moe doesn't work very well in english, acting cute, being ultra feminine and sweet voiced ended up type casted by Hollywood as either
>Jersey Girls / Valley Girls
for teenage and young adult women and
> Suburbanite / Soccer Mom
for regular adult women.

>>5974064
Case in point: Lamy in this pic works because of either the fantasy setting or the Japanese one but I am hard pressed to imagine an example where a similar trope was ever used in the western media for a very long time.

>>5973483
>Suisei
>Miko
>Pekora
>Kanata
>Watame
>Rushia
>even a fucking Matsuri is above Kuzuha
Yeah, Nijisanji is fucking done for. That's what they got for pandering to mentally ill fujos. They didn't get any boost from losing Lulu, that's just sad to see.

>>5973824
Nah, Subaru might actually beat Ibrahim, I'm serious.

>>5974064
>>5974118
In the west I assume you would have to go all the way back to 50s Archie to find anything remotely close to "moe".

Anyway, that's a tangent that has nothing to do with numbers, carry on

>>5974133
Chill out, everyone's numbers got massively boosted from Coco's 491k stream. Many of them don't get 20k+ on a normal day. Lulu isn't close with any of the biggest Nijis so they won't be affected by her graduation anyways/

>>5974198
Don't falseflag, anon, 3D streams are a Niji specialty, they'll take this one based on past numbers on their 3D

>>5974292
I meant this to >>5974198

>>5973369
Her numbers are somewhat skewed since she releases member streams publicly after a month which adds a lot to her total.
It's like 60-70k just from those.

If Subaru has call-ins or a big announcement at the end of her bday stream, I can see her reaching 70k. I think Ibrahim's 3D debut is 100k+ tho.

>>5974292
This is the new normal. Some buffs are permanent and Coco's is one of them. You know that Kenmochi used to be irrelevant until he collabed with Ui-mama, right? He got a buff from collabing with her then his numbers just stay around this level without falling off.

Is there something wrong with Nijisanji's tab in Holodex for Multiview? I can't see their numbers because it kept buffering.

>>5965759
How the fuck does Blackscreen got negative subscribers??

>>5965825
>but Gura's growth has been quite massive compared to even her own genmates.
To put it into perspective, JP's highest- Korone- is roughly on even footing with EN's second place. The English-speaking audience is orders of magnitude bigger.

Subaru approaching 50k.

>>5974727
It will bring new holo fans thats for sure.

>>5974816
Steady incline too

Ayamy channel just got got by Susan
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr9p1ZjLKgfaoqNorY7PiWQ

It had 42k subs, if it gets returned does she get all of the numbers back or it reverts back to some point?

>>5974936
Shit, it's real. Wtf did she do

>>5975063
She's Mel's illustrator, I can assume YT AI is zero'd in on illustrated boobs (because of the blowback of Elsagate and the ensuing Adpocalypse)

>>5961174
Shark boost (baby shark song)
It's her boost (initial)
Hololive boost
Cunny boost
High numbers call even higher numbers (algorithm boost)

>>5974936
oof

Approaching 60k. Based on the pattern of incline it is unlikely it will reach 70k

>>5975290
Last thread someone mentioned she'll reach around 40-60k anyway. 60k+ can be achievable, but that's it.

homo numbers are gonna spike because westerners feel the need to give them some love despite not wanting to watch them at all but their moral code wants to give people undeserved attention. Just back when aki cried about numbers and reddit gave her pitty numbers, just when kiara asked for views but then regretted her pity numbers when she reached 1M herself.

>>5966564
Better sponsorships, better performing males, creative freedom (unfiltered content) and of course
>LA M E R C H

>>5966564
Not having the same person breaking records gone from your company seems good enough.

>>5975787
But they have no records...

>>5975622
>better sponsorships
I mean Hololive has picking up some real steam when it comes to sponsorships although not as mainstream as them. I'd say they're about the same now.
Nijisanji merch games is still undeniably the best part about them. But I think Hololive is also getting better at their merch games. They're getting really interesting and unique (Botan ramen bowl, Coco's jacket, Gura's minimalist shirt, Ina plushie, Subaru duck plushie)

>>5975787
Like Lulu (2nd highest individual Nijisanji stream)?

Final Subaru numbers are in
>52,867 (avg) / 63,917 (peak)

>>5975850
Holo just announced a collab with the motherfucking Evangelion. They're not on the same level at all

>>5975955
Nijisanji got the mainstream level of sponsorship in Japan. Although it's really funny when you say evangelion as like Holos biggest deal when they are literally sponsored by the motherfucking Microsoft to promote their xbox. That's as mainstream as you'll get

>>5975955
To be quite honest that’s more of a step up for Evangelion which, in the past decade or so became a relic of a glorious past but without as much viewership as even “Generic Eva of the week” (Darling)

>>5975850
Holo got an Eva sponsorship and Aqua got another anime ambassador sponsorship today.
Gen 5 got some sort of group sponsorship again.
Feels like the damn broke and it’s raining sponsorships for Hololive.

>>5975955
Anon, both these companies have had larger collabs than Eva for a while already...

>>5976005
I was impressed with Holo partnership with GoodSmile.

Another 100k. Mansanji i kneel

>>5976016
If only Mori could play as Zero Two in her streams, or do a ditf watchalong. We might get a "Darling" from her.

Any big news network covered Coco's story today? Because It was a big enough story to be put onto news honestly.

>>5976059
I already preordered Festival but I missed Aqua, when will this be available for preorder?
How about the FBK nendo, when will they reveal that?

101k for Ib so far, 15 mins in. Unless he starts singing, I don't think he's going to reach Fuwa's numbers

>102k
And Tomoe couldn't break 75k. The male boost is real.

>>5976293
Ibrahim gets way better numbers than Tomoe normally so it's not really a fair comparison. The pachinko machine is a nice touch for SCs. This is clearly pre-recorded tho lmao I saw like multiple cuts.

>>5976005
The Micropajeet collab was just desperation on part of Micropajeets to promote their irrelevant brand in Japan.

>>5976346
It is. If it wasn't he would be rolling pachinko for hours, which would be more kino, but we would never see anything else from rng.

>>5976243
The actual nijifans already told you not to expect Fuwa numbers.

>promoting pachinko

>>5976398
IS he sponsored by Madoka or something?

>>5975850
Half of the holos are getting nendos and figmas. That's mainstream appeal. Niji only got 3.

His 3D is shit. What's up with his face looking 2D. It's awkward. Him standing Albio makes it look apparent.

Just... how? How come male nijis so much more successful than the females? They easily got 100k without the EOP boost while holo Gen 5 didn't even break 100k except for Nene. I thought Nijinigs were memeing that Nijisanji is supposedly "duh namba wan chuuba company" in Japan. What the fuck.

>>5976457
Well the stream is monetized so there must be some sort of agreement between both parties. He's inclining tho so 130k isn't out of reach if he doesn't spend the next 20 mins playing more pachinko lol

>>5976537
Madoka is made by Aniplex, which is owned by Sony Music which is one of Ichikara's biggest investors

>>5976537
He is most definitely going to sing. It's standard to sing for 3D debuts, and he's with Ebio who has also never sung before and each said they would sing whenever the other does.

>>5976536
Kuzuha is the most popular vtuber in Japan. Reddit rabbit doesn't even come close.

>>5975622
Moving goalposts is all you nijifags know best.

>>5976593
Everyone in this thread constantly moves goalposts. The only thing anyone needs to care about since a year ago is Cover's financial report later this month, and Ichikara's next year.

>>5976590
You are baiting and you know it.

>>5976641
Where is Anycolor's financial report?

>>5976536
Niji 3D debuts have a track record of being good shows so they attract a shitton of tourists who will never sub or watch the vtuber again. Ibrahim's 3D debut was particularly hyped on twitter, it got 40k likes within the first 2 hours of posting and a bazillion retweets. Hololive 3D debuts are way more generic and formulaic so there are less tourists. There's also the notion that Niji is more normie (so tourists are more willing to check out), whereas Holo is more otaku so they don't bother. After this 3D debut, Ib will get a nice payday and around 10k new subs, but his daily numbers won't change (far below HoloGen 5 except Polka).

>>5976573
How long is he gonna shill a madoka pachinko wtf

>>5976671
He's been using JP google trends to justify his retarded claims for 3 number threads already and never responds when people dunk on him. Don't give him the attention.

>>5976744
115k people watching his 3D back for 30 mins lol. True pachinko experience.

>>5976671
>>5976764
Stay mad holobronies

What happened holobros? Why didn't the reddit dragon's graduation give a boost to hololive in Japan?

>>5976691
https://twitter.com/hamanaka334/status/1366013506877673476
Cover's is the 752,730 one. This is for March, 31 2019 - March 31, 2020 for Cover, and April 31 2019 - April 31, 2020 for Ichikara.

Cover's one this month will cover 2020-2021, and then Ichikara's next year will cover the same time period.

Went to check jp rrats and damn coco killed jp numberfagging. They are not excited for big pp numbers now.

>>5976744
He needs that pachinko money please understand.
>>5976732
Sad when you think about how their 3D streams are the largest crowd they will usually get for the rest of their career.

>>5976857
And before anyone uses this to be stupid, this doesn't show revenue. You can only either buy that from Teikoku Bank for Cover, while Ichikara's is completely private. You can only estimate based on how much they've grown. This also includes the 19m they raised in their Series B, but both companies assumedly have grown quite a bit since then.

>>5976876
You're joking. Right after her graduation people were already talking about who to graduate next to get even bigger numbers, unironically estimating Pekora and Gura at 500k+.

Ib you have 15 mins left, pls at least move around in your 3D debut instead of sitting the whole time lmao

Here is the real graph with proper search category of web search

>>5976876
>490k graduation
>still doesn't make a dent in google JP trends rankings
What went wrong? Is hololive's audience nothing abut Amerimutts and SEAniggers? >>5976843

>>5976948
Excluding that obv like predicting graduation or holoen3d. I mean stuff like this 3d numbers or tournament numbers.

>>5976995
>web search
Nice try. Why would you search for them on the web instead of youtube itself? And Kuzuha still beats her there as well, so you fail to make any point.

>>5976876
This thread should just close forever, No one is topping 491k in any V-Tuber scenario.
Pekora or Marine is the only possibility, Gura won't.
Nijisanji will never do anything to get close to 491k not even Kuzuha graduating.
It's over, Coco killed numberfagging for good.

>>5976876
Coco's stream is the most :
1.Live viewers 2. Superchat 3. VOD views 4. Liked 5. Comments live stream.

>>5976995
so by this we can safely assume 50% of pekora subs are overseas

>>5976999
Google trends. Who the fuck uses that. Coco's hashtag was trending 1 with 450k tweets for several hours on Twitter. Anyone who fucking cares in JP will use Twitter. Especially normies. Only your ass will use that 90 searches??? The fuck is that. That only shows noone uses it.

I thought Pekora was reading superchat but she's actually still playing a game. Been a while since Pekora has been at below 20k.

>>5976796
>>5976892
I went to get some food from the kitchen, and got back to see him still playing that pachinko. I thought he was gonna bring an Aladdin or arabian experience. Dancing in the desert or something in front of a large palace. Not a pachinko stream.

>>5977103
I too like to make baseless assumptions off of flimsy statistics like fucking google trends for Japan. Only Pekora and Cover knows what the demographic of her subs is, we'll never know.

>>5977068
It's kind of great honestly, hopefully now the shitflingers will leave since there's nothing to argue about anymore and we can go back to being a slower comfy thread with more anons making graphs and spreadsheets and stuff

>>5976803
Ah I see now. you're the person who likes saying "holobronies". Yeah. No one takes any of (You)r opinions seriously.

>>5977103
The only people talking in her chat are nips

>>5977150
So did everyone else, but he just baited people twice and went right back to playing slots. Why are they letting him kill his numbers for this? He briefly went to 119k after his first bait, so obviously people want something else.

>>5977168
Yahoo news is still relevant in JP. Crazy.

Proper Company Trend Search Worldwide

>>5976995
This one is pekora vs kuzuha in JAPAN. Learn how to fucking read anons. You cannot know the 50% overseas sub claim from this graph alone.

>>5977146
She's playing Danganronpa, which is a mega debuff game. Flare got like 3k viewers watching it (usually has around 7 to 9k), so it's pretty good that Pekora still has 17k. It's basically unwatchable if you're a EOP.

>>5977331
Sure thing buddy. You're doing great. Go away.

>>5976999
if Cover does it right in the next few months. see the decline of niji from the start of this year to now then compare it to hololive.

>>5977250
Must be a lot of money from that pachinko sponsorship. Imagine you get the largest crowd you ever get and you spend it playing pachinko.

Well, Ibrahim did start doing something else, but dropped like 10k the moment he left Pachinko. Also don't fall for the bait.

>>5977331
Noone takes the 50% claim seriously. There was already reliable graph that shows EOP is minimal in many holo talents chat records. Only one with a lot of them were people like Aki, Towa and Roboco. Coco has more based on SCs. 56% SCs were nips

>>5977440
>>5977412
Looks like pachinko was the real attraction all along lol

>>5961174
She is a meme.

>>5977470
cultured eops dont chat in english, obviously. they either deepl their shit or stay silent.

>>5977470
Towa used to stream in the mornings. That's why she gained a lot of EOPs. Annyway, Ib's 3D debut was underwhelming.

>>5977534
Nah. Subaru even showed a graph that showed EOP was a minority.

>>5977555
His face and head were badly rendered.

>>5977472
Like when apex gets a massive boost whenever it's a gacha stream.

Numbers-wise, Ibrahim's 3D debut is the 3rd highest viewers for Niji I think and his superchat numbers are probably going to insane when Playboard gets their shit together tomorrow. But holy fuck this stream was total shit when you compare it to Kagami and Fuwa's 3D debuts.

>>5977665
>>5977472
Nips really love gambling huh
How many notable Niji males are left for 3D?

>>5977697
Welp, who's the next "popular" liver that doesn't have a 3D debut yet? Gwelu?

>>5977697
well if they want actual good things in their 3D debuts they need to pay for them

>>5977412
dude wasn't even sponsored, universal was just allowing him to play pachinko. So this whole thing is actually what he planned

>>5977697
4th highest. 117k max
1. Fuwa 144k
2. Hayato 132k
3. Debi debi 119k
4. Ibrahim 117k
5. Sara 86k

Nijibros...

For sc. he earned 16m yen

143k$

>>5977932
https://twitter.com/2434rankings/status/1410950165985316869

>>5977932
Playboard bugged out and didn't track his numbers in real time. These are pre-stream numbers. He made a truckload of SCs if you watched the stream and it'll be updated tomorrow.

>>5977697
Yes, 3rd highest at 120k. Debi's was 119k.

>>5977786
The other 2 in Meifu, Furen and Melissa. Other than that, only a few stragglers from way long ago, 3 boys, Kirame and the power rangers. After that we're already onto overseas branches. I wonder what they'll use their 3D team on whenever they're done with 3D for everyone though.

>>5978017
He peaked at around 117k so he's 4th. 143k for just playing pachinko on stream. Damn fujos really will SC for anything.

>>5977376
It makes more sense to search the group/company name on the general web instead of youtube, but okay. Here's the non-EOP version of your image. Still no significant incline from the reddit dragon's graduation.

>>5978087
Vnuma is up anon. Even that mess of a sampling rate has it at 120k.

>>5958431
Remembering people in her chat and what they've previously said is what marks her out above the other gfe attempts (after a certain size, the indie with double digit viewers who remembers you isn't really the same thing).

>>5978131

Pretty safe to assume that just from this stream alone, Coco will still be the most superchatted for July too.

>>5978258
Like some Anons said, there's nothing niji or other vtuber companies can brag about now that Coco had smashed every record. It's impressive that Ibrahim reached his numbers, but he's still gonna stay irrelevant the next day.

>>5977995
A month ago a vtuber stream had never made more than $100k and now Fuwa, Ame, Tomoe, Coco and Ibrahim have all done it, that's absolutely unbelievable.

>>5978342
They can all brag about not losing their highest earner.

>>5977786
If "popular" means pulling 5k regulary then it's only Furen but she's a female in Nijisanji. Then there are people who are really good at singing like Melissa and Chima but they probably won't get high numbers either. The 3 guys group isn't super popular but they should at least get good superchat numbers, especially Kaida.

How do you get not rounded numbers from vnuma now?

>>5978435
rounded numbers?

>>5965221
>>5978462

>>5978342
> It's impressive that Ibrahim reached his numbers, but he's still gonna stay irrelevant the next day.
It's crazy actually how he got 120k viewers and $140k SCs and I feel like it was an okay night, when it was one of the best performing streams ever. There's just such a huge gap now between #1 and #2 that it's hard to be impressed by #5. That and his stream sucked ass today so I'm extra underwhelmed.

>>5978435
>>5978542
You can't, that picture was from yesterday.

>>5978342
TouristSanji has the benefit of attracting random folk.

>>5978342
If nogizaka46 famous japanese idol group >>5970146 cant beat coco no one can.

>>5978560
>Numberfag starts to realize how little relation there is between a stream's numbers and its quality
Based Ib sacrificing his 3D stream to give meds to the schizos in this thread.

>>5977150
>>5977250
Actually, people was expecting it ever since he tweet and opened the waiting stream.
As people see the Universal(as in the slot machine maker) was listed in description and tweeted his stream hence it was trending all the days because other than gaming he is famous being Slot addict.

>>5978762
Dude you can't even beat Niji in Japan. Her graduation didn't impact the popularity of hololive there at all. What makes you think Coco's numbers weren't massively boosted by non-Japanese?

>>5978601
>You can't, that picture was from yesterday.
Yes you can.

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You need to know not only English and Japanees but how to speak XHR and JSON as well

>>5978830
NO YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP COCOS STREAM IS THE BEST BECAUSE HER NUMBERS ARE THE BIGGEST.

>>5978830
>quality
Can you quantify that in a number? If not
>you have to go back
Big numbers > small numbers. That's the only measure worthy of this thread

>>5978924
Pain in the ass tbqh. Just use holostats and 2434analytics

Can the google trends poster fuck off already? It was funny at first but it's just sad and irritating now

>>5977786
mashiro 3D is next and he's a strange one, people will come to watch a show from him. it will be kino

>>5978896
>SNIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Nothing beats the smell of cope in the morning

>>5978990
I will stop when Cocucks stop pretending their numbers weren't massively boosted by overseas audience. You can't compare it to other JP-only streams.

>>5978990
It's so easy to tell it's the same retard posting over and over. Just keep ignoring him and let him cope with his google trends

>>5978986
You WILL take your meds sooner or later.

Don't fight it.

>>5978830
Yes, one exception of a big stream being underwhelming to one person means there is no correlation between good streams and big numbers. Brilliant conclusion, anon.

>>5979007
He's one of the less known males and doesn't have a lot of paypigs. His 3D debut is the only one I have genuinely waited and will supacha, though. Hope his debut gets the same horror kino vibes as his streams.

>>5978988
>Just use holostats and 2434analytics
Thanks for the later, I'm working on collating
>Holostats
>HoloTracker
>Playboard
for the complete view of all numberfag worthy data
>Live Viewers
>Subs count
>VOD views
>Superchat
But I only have Holo statistics so far. If I had Niji equivalent for Holostats and HoloTracker I could make the ultimate despair tool for numberfags of the top of the industry.
>without that I can scratch my own itch and make for Holo only tho

Generally 'gambling' streams tend to get numbers and encourage superchat, just look at gatcha streams. There is a lot of real gambling streams on twitch nowadays because they get big numbers.

>>5979087
"Correlation"? Literally what people in this thread think is that if it's big numbers good and low numbers bad. It's a straight causation.

>Microsoft numberfagging very hard
I wonder if in 12 months time Niji will still be at the top of the merchandise and partnership game

>>5979007
>>5979094
Wait, that's a guy? I went to one of his DS Vods, and thought she was a mix of hachaama

>>5979195
>female
>hachaama
you could not be more wrong. his roommate is legit a guy and you can find this by searching in /jp/ archives. his thing is actual horror, SCP, etc

>>5979106
Ah yiz Graph Anon is here, I can masturbate to proper graphs now.

>>5820336
>Graph 3 days ago for proper comparison of post graduation stats.
Will there be a Post Graduation Depression Debuff or will Hololive use this to incline?

>>5979195
Anon...

>>5979288
I'm still working on collating all data sources. THANK GOD Coco graduation was no July 1st, that means I can make a 12 months chart (July 2020 - June 2021) without the GIGANTIC outlier that that graduation was

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AiBtVdNDwo
One for the numbers

>>5965686
The bar graph skips every other label.

>>5979440
Indie? Good numbers for APEX

I'm kinda surprised Kanata is in 3rd, is there anything that caused her to be there?

Does she also have Rushia level gachikois or were Tatsunokos already starting to migrate to her?

>>5979647
Yeah, apparently she met some of the CR cup people and the audience has carried over.

>>5979440
Wait who the hell is this?

>>5979655
She's been inclining. Her SCs has always been big for her. I started to notice her because of her Undertale G run. SCs was crazy when she finished it.

>>5979655
>I'm kinda surprised Kanata is in 3rd, is there anything that caused her to be there?
She's LITERALLY Coco's roommate.

Miko isn't getting as many for Stickmin as I thought she would

>>5979655
This was for yesterday, she did a talk stream late at night. After she and Coco got home and after her new cover premiere, she would have gotten a lot of donations even if it wasn't this much of special day after a song premiere, as no 7 all time most superchatted.

>>5979938
haven't been checking her numbers that often but 21k is a solid buff for her compared to her numbers a few months back

>>5979655
The Coco connection certainly helps in this case but she just surpassed Kuzuha to become the 6th most superchatted vtuber and will eventually overtake Aqua to make the top 5 at their current pace, she's very strong with superchats on her own merits.

>>5979938
Friday seems to always be the lowest traffic day of the week for JP Vtubers.

>>5980006
Kanata has been inclining on her own regardless of Coco.
Seems the EOPs have started noticing her more.

>>5980001
I'd never say 21k is bad but looking at her streams from the last couple of months it looks like it's around her average and she seems like one of the biggest EOP magnets around so I would've thought the biggest EOP buff game would've given her a big boost

My ONE criticism with the whole VTubing thing: some chuubas aren't meant to sing
>see: Choco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVMPDmcrsB4

No matter how ganbatting she is, she would be laughed out of the room in ANY context other than being an anime girl trying her best.
Same with Noel and Coco, PLEASE stop singing

>>5980107
SOVL
Can it be quantified?

>>5980107
>Coco, PLEASE stop singing
Oh boy have I got some good news for you

>>5980107
I like the SOUL.
Most of the Holos wouldn’t be what you would call very good singers. Hololive relies on their branding and your connections to the chuuba to sell their singing. Besides, past a certain point most people don’t care too much if someone is a great trained singer or not.

>>5980155
>Can it be quantified?
I'm working on that. I'm categorizing every single stream Holostats have archived
>singing stream
>Micra stream
>Zatsudan stream
>ARK stream
so I can contrast the numbers for hologirls when they stream different type of content

>>5980105
i guess a lot of the possible EOPs are instead watching FBKs 1,5mil vs MC RTA stream

>>5980223
That sounds really interesting, from what I can tell Noel gets pretty good numbers for her utawakus so clearly there's a lot of SOUL appreciators out there

>>5979425
KEK you actually isolated Gura, you really hate outliers huh. EN is getting stale, weirdly enough TTRPG is improving their numbers.

>>5979106
How big of an anomaly is yesterday's numbers? How much does the lower holos drag down the average?

>>5980155
>SOVL
>>5980222
>I like the SOUL.
At very fucking least do like Watame and take lessons and improve.

>>5980299
>How big of an anomaly is yesterday's numbers?
I would exclude July 1st 2021 from any dataset I ever worked in my professional data analyst career (if it involved vtubing). much like Sep 11 2001 gets excluded if you want any meaningful conclusion from the data.

>>5980300
Watame was a very talented singer with tons of amateur and some professional experience who got even better when she started taking lessons, she's uncomparable to Noel who's former singing teacher stopped working with her because she said she was too bad to get any better

>>5980475
>Noel who's former singing teacher stopped working with her because she said she was too bad to get any better
That's part of my point. Not everybody can excel at everything, sometimes people have to cut their losses and quit trying

>>5980107
Anyone can be trained to be at least passable at singing. If they're shit, that means they're not putting in effort to try to be good.

>>5980105
Stickmin is getting a little stale right now, she's the ninth holo to play it and it's not really the kind of game that gets better on repeated playthroughs. Most of them are only really there for the Jojo thing anyway.

>>5976590
>google trends
>popularity
I'm sorry anon, but do you google your oshi's name on a daily basis or what?

>>5981168
No but I do search for their names on youtube. That's why I put youtube search there. Conversely, it makes more sense to search for the company/group name on general web search instead of youtube and Niji beats hololive harder there: >>5978131 >>5978190

>>5982084
>No but I do search for their names on youtube
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>look at this fag right here

>it makes more sense to search for the company/group name on general web search instead of youtube
OH NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>5982250
>holobrony arguments

>>5982084
>No but I do search for their names on youtube
no I don`t lol, I write "peko" on my search bar and it will already give me the link to her channel directly. Or you`ll favorite it, or do something else for a quick access. Only retards and tourists would keep searching their names every goddamn time.

Cover should release EN 2 now. EN is declining and Coco was graduated then who gonna pull 60k on sunday. Today number was really bad for Hololive. The declining start too soon.

>>5982731
Yeah. Also, once you're deep in the rabbit hole your frontpage pretty much gets flooded with content. I don't have to type shit on YouTube anymore to find content of my oshi since she's in my feed 24/7 at this point.

>>5982731
Only someone who is subbed to them would have that luxury and we all know JP doesn't sub, like or comment in high rates compared to Westerners. Very easy to search Kuzuha's or Peko's name in Japanese. They are just two and three characters long.

>>5982824
They can wait until the end of the month. I'm sure that a lot of people who are new to the whole graduation ordeal needs time to process it for a bit

>Fubuki getting an easy peasy 20+k for a Micra milestone stream

>>5982961
Yeah yeah, that explains why Aki and Anya have her great numbers

>>5970841
>don't stream for weeks
>still grow in subs
I swear she will hit 1 mil and won't make a mention of it.

>>5982824
Give it 2-3 weeks before an announcement. Coco’s graduation pretty much delayed any news of a new gen for a while.

>>5982824
>The numbers still mog all niji except for the 3d debut, but its hololive that's declining.

cope nijinig.

>>5980704
Some people are just bad regardless.
She might have a disability, who knows.

congats to FBK for 1,5mil
to bad the RNG cucked her so she didn't manage to win her RTA against the subcount

>>5984428
Those enderpearls were the hard part fucked her run