/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ex-AkioAir talent Megu letter 1/3
https://twitter.com/MegumiKuragiri/status/1708649499202359553

ex-AkioAir talent Kivi letter 2/3 part a
https://twitter.com/KiviVT/status/1708647992063144373

This is Delphi the adult who had her debut yesterday

>>59682491
How many trumpets is AkioAir on right now?

>>59682798
We're way past the 7th

>>59682771
part b (final)

>>59682771
so Jason became the scapegoat?

MINOR NUMBER 2
16 year old graphics design student releases grooming statement

You got all the latest info from /corpo/, OP?
>>59682922
Anon that is Nophi

>>59682922
ex-AkioAir talent Wawa letter 3/3 part a

>>59683011
part b
>>59682990
I just got home from work. Haven't had time to read everything yet. Summary would be appreciated.

part c (final) (actually part b, I screwed up the posting order from rage and laughter)
>>59682922(me)
oops my bad, that is the first underaged, there is no second

Btw, False is doing a stream rn, Athy provided a 60 page doc to him apparently on the whole Jason drama.

>>59683090
Nah, checked the statements you're posting and you're on top of stuff, the only extra thing is what I said above. You can grab some discord screenshots from /corpo/ if you want to.

>>59682922
>16 years old
uuuuoooh

>>59683350
I've soured on False because he sided with Froot against Anthime so I don't want to watch him. I'll probably just go over the posted screenshots in the thread from his stream.

>>59682491
Why are your thread name is /kuro/?
Don't get me wrong, I know what it means is just that after a certain male debut on vsj of all places, I can't help but to link this name to him, not some black corpo being black corpo

DONT TAKE MY OWL FROM ME

Azuri... Nophi...

>>59684041
I don't like him either for different reasons but anthime ruined it for herself by pretending to be a le based /here/ /pol/tard.

There's a reason you don't make a lot of friends as a /pol/tard.

Anon posted screenshots of Athy's conversation with Jason >>59682444

AkioAIR discord lawsuit threats from Jason to Athy courtesy of /corpo/

>>59684935
Jesus...

>>59684928
>>59684935
Based, thanks.

>>59684321
/kuro/ was kuro before k9kuro debuted
we have seniority
also check this post out >>57849826
spoopy ain't it, synchronistic, he and we are tied by fate

>Ruin your company and your reputation just for a chance to play Overwatch and League with the mentally ill young girls that you preyed on
lol
lmao

>>59684935
>If you want to pay us something like $100,000 that'll also be a very convincing argument
You can't make this shit up

Was it worth it, Jason?

>>59682922
Meh. I groomed my wife when she was 16.

>>59686457
Did your wife cheat on you?
Nophi betrayed Jason by releasing these documents.
HIS GROOMER FAILED AHAHAHAHA

Do you think the child will continue to vtube or quit entirely? Hopefully she can carve out a niche as an uoh indie

So their entire gen 2 has quit? And only two of them actually debuted? Man this has to be a record or something

>>59688237
the 2 who debuted just quit an hour ago
day 1 debut, day 2 quit
I think only that one corp who spammed ads on animenewsnetwork has a similar debut then quit record

>>59688043
Yes anon I'm sure the rich girl who barely needs to work is going to throw away everything she has in order to go independent.

>>59688498
nophilia just quit to akioair with those 3 pages of statements
my question was will she continue vtubing or quit entirely

>>59688043
Probably she can continue streaming but it would be wise for her to wait until she's 18 to attach herself to a company. Being underage is just asking for trouble.

>>59688488
What about NexStage?

>>59689072
NexStage took like at least a week

>>59686987
She has not.

>>59682922
Place your bets what company signs her next. Four companies aren't enough for her.

>>59689349
you're thinking of one of the other girls that dipped before debut, this is the frog.

>>59689020
Being underage while chuubing in general is asking for trouble because of people like the anon you're replying too

>>59689560
Maria and Nophi both have previous corpo experience but only Nophi is the minor.

>>59684041
False is a fucking retard. Did you see the messages he sent Jason? One of them has False issuing an "ultimatum" to shut down the company.
Fucker is a yellow journalist through and through.

>>59689893
As long as you do it in an amateur way maybe it's not too bad, because there aren't many expectations. But if you plan on making it your job, then yeah, kinda tricky to balance the business side of it (contracts).

>>59690802
Athy responding to false and sending him docs was a bad move.
Should have pulled a zaion and released the docs herself.
False would have covered them anyways.
Oh well too late now.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

>>59692200
It's over

>>59692200
I really, really fucking hope Jason actually got a lawyer who looked at everything and said "What the fuck are you doing? Drop this shit right the fuck now you literal retard."
Because that would be so fucking funny.

NON-False stream by woman dramatuber
warning: male collab voices
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDP763piL-E

Why are they all saying gg?

>>59692858
Expect none of them to have the akio tag by tommorow, that's why.

Is it just me or does this seem a bit too smug.
Almost like the girls are the bad guys and Jason is the tragic hero.

>>59692200
The entire second gen just quit, talents training under the company are releasing statements, and Athy's logs got leaked.

>>59693130
You're not trying hard enough to sound like Jason. Fuck up your grammar a bit more. You have to sound ESL.

>>59693130
Ok, I'll bite. In what world is Jason a tragic hero of any sort?

>>59693328
He looked up to Sakana the Phase CEO as an example. Followed all his business advice about grooming girls by forcing them to play video games. Only for Jason to get caught and the two-faced fish to laugh in his face with family guy gif then badmouth him on a phase girl's stream. His only flaw is that he trusted his talents to remain loyal as well as the businessmen around him.

Thread M O O D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYQDnV092hI

>>59693762
Idk, I'd say there's a few more flaws, one of which you already mentioned.

Has it ever been more over?

>>59695247
This fire is just getting started.

Ima laugh when his whole info gets leaked. Groomer looking ass needs to be in jail

>>59695247
This is one of the few times where some random SEAnig calls it the Final Yab and is completely correct

>>59683240
>our merchandise was sold
>we did not earn a single penny
Jason claims
>I'm broke
God I hope that last part is true

>>59630449
So are either of these black companies too? Because it kinda sounded like it

>YOU HAVE TO PLAY OVERWATCH WITH ME
damn my untalented hands

>>59695897
He ant broke, but he will be once he trys to do that court case

>>59692200
second gen quit, now first gen quit as well, it's over Akio Air has no vtubers, none will want to get in, upon reading other discord leaks it seems even management is jumping ship, it's over like you wouldn't believe

>>59693762
Meds pls

>>59694020
kek

>>59690991
>>59689893
>>59689020
See >>59696071 until she turns 18 no corpo will want to snatch her a vtuber. That's just asking for AA 2.0 to happen. She could work behind the scenes as an artist or something like that, but until she turns 18 (and even then) corpos and other vtubers will avoid her unless they want groomer allegations.
>>59688498
>Nophi
>rich
She's so gung-ho about becoming a vtuber because she was groomed into it during her Mysteria days. Also her parents seems to be apathetic at best and seemingly forced her to pay her hospital bills, and if she were truly rich she would have gotten a model and assets on her own.

>>59688718
>>59699180
Don't blame a sleepy anon for thinking you were talking about Gura when you post a picture of her and even say a child okay
If she really is underage and not 17 barely 18 like what seems to be she could try that niche but she'd have to hide it in plain sight very well to not get another mob after her

>>59699503
NTA the one that posted Gura.
That aside, that girl should be off the internet and wait to be a vtuber until she's 18. Anything before and she'll just be a groomer magnet and corpos will not bother until she's an adult.

>>59699180
>unless they want groomer allegations.
>>59699676
>she'll just be a groomer magnet
Yeah, that's basically the crux of the matter. You (a corpo, another Vtuber) may be professional and have the best intentions but people will invariably think bad if you associate with a minor, especially in an industry like Vtubing that has rabid fans and its fair share of schizophrenics.

>AkioAIR doesn't pay their talents on time for months
>Debuting a child is the last straw for their top earner who quits
They were going to quit over the lack of pay eventually but capitalizing on the twitter drama really gave them an easy way out

People like to throw the word black company around baselessly at hololive and nijisanji but completely ignore this shitfest
Really makes you wonder who is doing those posts

>>59685276
You don't understand, he made the company from the start for the sake of grooming mentally ill young girls on Discord. Everything else is secondary.

>>59683996
Not the time, anon

>>59690802
>Did you see the messages he sent Jason?
Were they in the form of tweets?

>>59691598
(You) assume he found out about all this organically and not through a leak from Athy or someone else in the first place. Also, he has a bigger audience than she does, which was probably not the case for Zaion.

>>59693174
>got leaked
She directly provided them to False.

>>59695781
I mean, he hasn't been hiding his full name at all the entire time, aside from playing that gorilla character, and presumably there's a business registration on public record.

>>59702785
They were discord DMs, he showed them on stream.

>>59702989
>Be warned Jason, I am in control here. My operators have infiltrated all lines of communication and your streamers are loyal to ME. If you don't meet my demands, the False Nation will not relent until you've lost everything. I'm willing to be merciful, but first you must kneel.
What did he mean by this?

This Jason guy was basically just using the corpo as an excuse to get close to a bunch of women. It's basically that nightmare scenario that people come up with any time a corpo has male talents, except it was the CEO so it didn't matter that the corpo was all-female. Just goes to show that no one is safe. I personally think a male vtuber is always under such scrutiny that he'd never be able to get away with doing something like this and people on /vt/ were focusing on the wrong target all this time.

I feel bad for all the talents involved with this company. I can't even say that the ones who didn't debut "dodged a bullet" because as evidenced by their letters, they've been having to deal with this guy for all this time pre-debut. So they didn't even get anything out of it, they get all that stress and abuse and there's no light at the end of the tunnel, they don't get to debut, corporate vtubing has probably been ruined for them forever, they've got more stress ahead of them as this jackass tries to sue them, and I feel like even if they did want to join another corpo, who would accept them? Even though it's not their fault, most corpos would likely consider them poison due to the AkioAIR situation. They're basically doomed to remain indies forever after this.

>>59703346
I don't think other corps would care at all.

>>59703346
I can almost guarantee at least two of the girls will be saved by another corpo

>>59703346
small corpo CEOs do this more often than you think. Jason isnt the only one

That girl that replied to Nophi and was ratted to be a skinwalker for one of the models tweeted about not sending AA hate and then privated and deleted her account.

>>59703346
The underage one in question might be too controversial to hire now, but others weren't at fault here.

>Belgian
>FR/EN/PH
Holy fuck I think I know this person

>>59684321
I didn't even know who kuro was until today meanwhile kuro has always meant black, next

>>59684321
>Kuro
Who?
We got the name first, Mystakes gotta think of another thread name.

>>59703957
one of their ideas was /kkk/ for k9kuro klan kek
i gotta respect that one

>>59704073
Made me chuckle. I'll give them that.

>>59682904
It actually sounds like he's an autistic discordfag who thought winning big in crypto would allow him to start his own harem/company and finally get a gf, but being a millionaire can't get you girls (as Eliot Rodger found out) if you are a sperg with no game and no clue how to get game.

>>59702989
I respect False for doing this, I know many women that are too passive to stand up and talk. That's why you never want to be the only guy in a department, most women will not rally behind a cause, even if that cause is calling out corruption in the workplace actively taking YOUR wages

>>59686987
It depends on country but obviously if you are in any english speaking environment the women are all mentally ill roasties who will be fine with an 18yo getting dicked down by a train of fat 70yo millionaires but if you merely suggest a 25yo were to propose marriage to an 18yo they would blow their gaskets and scream about preying on the young and innocent. This isn't even to begin talking about insane bitches screaming about men over 30 dating a fucking 25 year old kek.

Jason is a sperg and a retard because he also got multiple chicks witnessing him running his company like his personal harem and the chicks were obviously not down with that.

I'd like to try my hand at grooming a teenage girl.

>>59683240
>he trusted a belgian
Serves him right.

>>59704073
>hates black companies due to prior experience
checks out

>>59704340
Easy there, Elliot. The only ones that sperg about age gaps between otherwise adults are zoomers and late millenials.

>>59682922
>FR/EN/PH

The fuck is up with this pronounce bullshit i cant fucking keep up with this

>>59705804
You had a bad joke and fucked it up. Good job retard.

>>59705156
>shit on jason (sperg incel)
>retard (you) seethes and calls me an incel
Hello Jason.

>>59704397
Well whatever you try, don't be be a retard like Jason is.

>>59704238
>would allow him to start his own harem/company and finally get a gf
The thing is this could work so easily if he wasn't an utter sperg. You have the money, the probable status, the access. Now all that's left is to be likable and approachable.

>>59705935
Because you are a sperg incel.

>>59706346
It seems you took something personally.

phase connect will pick up athena

>>59704397
YandereDev can give you some advice.

>>59706362
You talk about roasties sperging at marriage proposals and 18 year olds getting trains run on them which had nothing on Jason failing to groom his agency's talents, which is what you replied to.

>>59703346
Phase might try and save Athy. Fishman would never miss a poaching opportunity

>>59706761
My twitter got nuked. Tag Sakana and Athy and say "You know what to do fishman"

Can anyone link the PSD of that model that got leaked in the conversations. Wanna use it to test things out and it'll be nice to have a thousand dollar model to try it out on.

>>59707185
>>59598223
Sorry, never had twitter to begin with

>got an underaged girl in the palm of your hands as well as other girls
>force them to like you instead of grooming them over time
>announce her to the world as a new member instead of stringing her along promising she'll join when you get to a new gen when she reaches 18
>not buying flights for her to visit you in the interim

Damn the CEO screwed up, he cant even groom properly.

>>59683011
>how dare you assume my gender
i like him

>>59707510
You can make banter like that only if they already like you. Even as a rich groomer CEO you can't have this much negative game if you want a gf.

>>59682491
I don't know id it was mentioned already but
>>59684935
all the arguments and witting patterns from this Jason faggot are hilariously similar to the pedo in this thread deflecting
>>57843384
>>/vt/thread/57843384#p57843384

>>59706761
I don't know about that. Fishman just unintentionally leaked that he got new JP talent in his bag. Isn't it overstretched if he tries to poach more into Invaders?

>>59708071
>some people disagree that hiring someone under 18 isn't the crime of the century
>must all be jason

Is this jason in the room with us right now?

>>59682922
>16yo
that's legal in 99% of the world

Jason did nothing wrong

>>59709012
Jason did 99 things very badly wrong. But casting 16 year old to voice an anime character isn't one of them.

>>59709175
the one sin of hiring a minor far outweighs everything else

>>59708601
Sakana is a man who is solely driven his basic instinct, which is:
- selling coffee(purely selling it as he does not drink coffee)
- larping as a starcraft turret with his little boyfriends
- sleeping inside his boxfort
- jonging at degen hours
- making a tribute in front of his Marine shrine
- poaching talents from dead or dying companies

There is no other though in the man's head. Why do you think we even know there is going to be a jp talent? That man is no capable of making any sort of complex though such as talent saturation.

>>59709227
Do you fall on the ground crying because of the Harry Potter movie? Daniel Radcliffe was 11 in the first one. How has the thought of the many japanese voice actress who started young hasn't driven you to shallow a shotgun yet?

>>59708601
>Fishman just unintentionally leaked that he got new JP talent
QRD?
>>59709227
It's more about hiring this minor in particular while having grooming allegations against him.

>>59709391
Yes yes, one word got autocorrected wrong. Feel free to use that to dismiss all the other words.

>>59689020
Being underage and vtubing is not a problem - at least two of beloved Hololive members started when they were bit younger than her.
Issue is when you openly telegraph this news and there's literally nobody to properly manage that minor. If Akionair was not a black company lead by vile morons, they would probably know to not publicly announce that they hire a minor and have someone keeping her from writing some of the most unhinged and degenerate things that just get worse considering her age.

>>59709227
Hiring minors isn’t immediate confirmation that the company is terrible, however the fact that they had to go against their own policy to do it is probably the bigger issue.

>>59693130
> Work for absolutely abusive and unhinged dipshit retard.
> Nobody is telling or doing anything about it so you too keep quiet.
> Finally shit starts falling apart and there's hope for changes.
> EVERYBODY, ABSOLUTELY EVERYBODY decides together as one team to stick it to said moron and leave his dogshit company.

I don't think that anyone would be not smug in this case. They were dealing for years with this asshole and now they all as one kick him in the balls.
Honestly I hope that from ashes of AkionAir will rise new group. The girls seems to like each other and there's some kind of bonds going on.

>>59709256
>>59709398
I saw a clip on X when Airi and Sakana talking about something, and then Sakana slipped his fish mouth, implying that there's new JP talent for Phase Connect.

>>59709789
Where was this "bond" when Fen got terminated? Oh right, tourists like you wouldnt remember her

>>59709398
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jV5GG7ZIZXE

>>59709883
You are retard.
Nobody was doing anything then because they were too afraid to lose job. Now when their workplace is on fire and the asshole that was giving them literal hell on Earth is trapped there in closet obviously things are different. But obviously I don't expect intelligence from random 4chan user and understanding how situation can change dramatically.

>>59709921
The stream in question.
https://www.youtube.com/live/g_Ohd3t5Dno?si=kT9iB7aZTrvEEOq6&t=7478

>>59709963
>backstabbing whores wait until the right moment to bite the hand that feeds them, even when one of their gen member get literally raped and killed.

>>59709398
Airi mentioned that one of PC girls is good at distinguishing AI art. Sakana answered that yeah, one of JP girls has that talent.

i hope Jason does a WACTOR move

>>59709012
Jason just wanted his own anime girl harem to play Overwatch with. Some of which happened to be underaged. Is that so bad? It's a goal as noble and pure as it can get.

Jason needs to be crucified for causing this model to be VOIDED

Did the water cunny and the frog cunny graduate yet?

>>59709883
In retrospect, how openly hostile Fen's graduation stream was makes a lot more sense.

>>59710696
not officially but yes, they are also out.
As of today AkioAir has ZERO hired talents

>>59693130
women are just petty and evil by nature
so its normal

>>59710083
Calm down Jason

>>59693130
Jason got the lawsuit in the bag. He will win
>>59710923
they cannot leave, contract is rock solid

>>59711332
What do you even get from larping he guy?

>>59709883
>tourists like you
>terminated
https://twitter.com/Akio_Air/status/1611418023205683238
https://web.archive.org/web/20230109071532/https://twitter.com/FenThePixie/status/1611205952551747585
kys you fucking retarded poser.
>>59710402
"and some of them are on the younger side"

>>59711332
Spoken like someone who has never her a job let alone an international job lololol. Imagine overseas contracts meaning shit. A lawyer would look at your little anime girl larping and laugh you out of the room.

I feel for the kid. She wanted to help out with her family's finances. Minimum wage at her age is 4 euros / hour. It's so pathetically little, I would also try to be a youtuber at that point.

>>59703346
Have never worked on a place in which a girl hasnt fucked the boss or manager.

>>59711747
In a better timeline, she joined a proper good company and they put in proper safeguards and effort to protect her until she was of age

>>59702989
I think False's tone was too white-knighty but it's funny that he basically has the entire company (all 3 top employees) in a discord convo at his mercy

>>59703750
source?

>>59710083
>>59709883
The Sun must be in the constellation of Virgo and the Moon is in the constellation of Aries and it is in Waning Gibbous phase in order for women to get off their butts and act.

>>59709256
I will never understand why people put CEOs in this sort of altar, you might as well know and be interested more about him than the girls his company hired. Insanity

>>59713546
>taking obvious shitposting seriously
Insanity

>>59710487
Honestly all of their models were great, it fucking sucks they're just gone now. I wonder if they can obtain them somehow, but the just wishful thinking.

BONG BONG BONG
Wake up Vensisters
we have a new mald

taiwanese on taiwanese violence

>>59711688
See you in court sister

Who tf is VenVen?

>>59714107
Investor who does some tech work

>Lawsuit threats all the way back in 2021
Some things never change 1/2

>>59713933
>>59713979

>>59714369
2/2

>>59713865
The odds aren't good but it's not impossible. Akio is absolutely going under, and they could just sign all the rights to the models and assets over to the girls. The odds of it happening are pretty slim given what a turboretard bossman is.

>>59714410
The artists and riggers still have copies of the models with all their assets.
If akioair folds, the artists could release it for free as an example of their good work and good will towards the COOMunity

>>59714469
Jason owns all the assets

>>59714498
The Vix assets all got leaked.
I have hope

>>59710487
Yeah, the visible bra through her dress is hot as shit.
t. bong

>>59714614
MAKE A FUCKING KOITASTU CARD
The model is lost but we can preserve this through the COOM

>>59708601
>>59709398
>>59709881
>>59710082
Bruh, what you consider a "leak" is ridiculous. It's not a secret that Phase is debuting Gen3 at the end of this year, or maybe beginning of the next one. That there is a new JP member barely changes anything. Nothing against the JP talents, but JP talents barely matter when 95% of the company is focused on the English speaking market. Also you don't know the full context, it maybe a JP by nationality but who will stream in English, kinda like Iori. This is hardly a relevant "leak".

>>59708975
Legal as in age of consent for sexual relationships is different from legal as in "legally able to be called an adult". How many 16 year olds are legally entitled to vote and make political decisions in the world? Can you check this info?

>>59715214
A minor leak is still a leak.
Funny that Lia leaked Remi and Rie before debut and Uruka leaked Lumi and Lumi leaked Dizzy from before, I expected another talent to leak gen3 but it turned out to be the fish himself.

>>59715661
Again... not a leak. Saying "a new member is good" is barely a leak.

>>59715764
The entirety of airi's chat and airi herself disagrees with you. Maybe you need to go back to school, mister esl

>>59713979
>>59713933
Is this actually Jason or another board member?

>>59715400
what does that have to do with vtubing

>>59706374
I hope so. Athy/Uruka duets would be kino

kek mad lad artist remade the trailer... featuring no one, there's really not coming back from this
https://twitter.com/tsuruginen/status/1708760604759261244

>>59715824
Yeah, that's called banter. The streamer does something minor and insignificant, the chat goes "WOOOOAAAAH! No, you didn't! WOW!" It's an exaggerated reaction. Guess what? Nobody is talking about this supposed leak after it happened, because nobody cares.

>>59715885
Contracts. Adults are able to sign contracts freely, while minors typically need the explicit permission of their guardian or parent. Does that mean minors can never make any money nor work at McDonald's? No, of course they can work there, but the law provides a framework for it; whether it's enforced or not is a different matter; often the work is not risky, like answering phone calls and taking notes.

>>59716058
Thats one of the former Tsunderia members too so he knows a thing or two about this sort of thing

>>59714614
God we lost out on all this, messing with the PSD just makes me more sad...

>>59715400
What does it has to do with anything we talk here about?
Mind you, - Akionair is based in Taiwan and minimal age of employment is there 15 and in fact in most places on Earth it's also close to that. That's actually relevant to discussion

>>59715824
I really don't think Phase is all that concerned about these sorts of leaks, it doesn't actually tell us much other than that theres more JP's, which is cool in my books

>>59714390
KEK

>>59716287
vtubing isnt risky

>>59716511
Okay, if you say so, then it's fine. Then nobody should worry about any grooming allegations. People can just move on then.

>>59716511
There's no way you're saying this on /vt/ of all places

>>59716358
You still don't get it. Minimum age of employment varies from country to country, it can be as young as 12. But again, when it's below 18 there are usually provisions that the type of work won't be the same as "adult" work. You need parent's permission, and the working hours will be limited, it won't be full time, and maybe other things. Simply put, below 18 you are not a full "adult", even if you can legally work.

>>59716058
>https://twitter.com/tsuruginen/status/1708760604759261244
FUCKING NEN LMAO

>>59716563
you type like a woman

>>59682491
>CEO threatens FalsEyeD with lawsuit
Based.

>>59716322
>Womb tattoo
SEXOOO

>>59693130
So is Mew and the zoomer duo confirmed out?

>>59710895
Yeah when the most comfy non offensive vtuber I have ever seen starts throwing shade you know something is wrong

台湾是中国

>>59707327
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/18Bz5Yl8IBIf5ZL-p3llemWx6TvagCGei

>>59713865
True
>>59714405
Interesting, already then there was a skinwalker

>>59721690
This was known from the start as far as I remember. Everyone just thought the original person got cold feet/changed circumstances

I don't like the taste of metoo of this mess. The CEO seems like an idiot but I can also see most of these girls are just twisting uncomfortable interactions into borderline crimes, women are a mess man

>>59722487
oh so it's the women that caused this problem? not the groomer ceo?

>>59716058
>full trailer link is to some country song
kek

>>59722487
>multiple women aren't allowed to come forward about one bad individual for any reason

What are the odds this minor hire is a nepotism hire?

>>59722896
>>59723073
spotted the onions infused lefties
anyway, I'm not saying they are completely wrong, but this is cancel culture and we have seen how it develops when suddenly the victims feel empowered by online support. It's like you fags don't know women get carried away when they get enough attention, the guy will get crucified publicly but the precedent will be detrimental in the long run

>>59723112
zero, because actual "nepotism" in the strict sense means hiring relatives (especially without their own merit). And even in the broader "vt definition" of the term, meaning she got in via the recommendation of an existing talent, it doesn't apply because there is no evidence to suggest she had any connection to existing talents who'd nepo her in.

>>59723574
>you're not wrong but I want to feel like I'm right
You're adorable anon

>>59723574
men also get carried away easily? have you even seen jason's replies...? and you're acting like jason is being unfairly accused despite all the clear evidence

>>59723574
nta, but even if you discount the "hiring a minor = groomer!!!" narrative (I too have a more nuanced opinion on it, but even if you think it's no big deal at least be professional about it and smart enough to leave it at business-only, and don't also try to force them to be your personal Overwatch GFs in private), it's just the juiciest lowest hanging fruit that's the easiest angle to dominate the discussion.

But even if you take that whole issue out, the company was already a mess and riddled with underlying problems that'd guaranteed a slow but certain decline (or a quick implosion if an incendary-enough incident happened, as we've seen now). Most importantly, not paying talents - people can put up with a lot of shit if the money is worth it at least, but if you can't even give them that, they have no incentive to suffer your bullshit anymore. As evidenced by the fact that most/all of AA talents had little to no streams for weeks and months already, effectively being on strike, prior to this whole recent hiring a minor thing and ensuing public shitshow, which was just the straw that broke the camel's back and ripped the bandaid off a whole lot of longer ongoing dysfunction.

>>59723713
and you are a fag, go keep paying for feet picks filthy westerner
>>59723792
Cancel culture isn't carried over by men. Akira from wactor got doxxed to hell and beyond but I didn't see it a problem because cancel culture and metoo garbage isn't part of latam's way of doing things. I can see this current issue as very damaging in the long run because of theses reactions/statements

Gonna screenshot this since I'm sure in the future you will see more of "calling out industry males for clout". Just like with metoo it begins with justified cases

>>59682922
>pinoi
lel

>>59725174
>assumptions
>buzzwords
>more assumptions
>no actual argument
>display of narcissism
Just screaming "please take me seriously"

>>59713546
i want to have ungodly amounts of sex with fishman thats why, who needs anime girls when i can have a 30 something chinese man from canada

>>59706374
Fuck that, she should remain indie. She was really happy as an indie.

>>59706761
Phase already has at least 6 probably 7 talents debuting next month between EN Gen3 and JP Gen2. I really don't think the Fishman is in a position to offer Athy a contract even if he wanted to bring her in as an Invader.

>>59714498
He paid $50 for them, maybe the girls can buy them back for $75.

>>59726296
>Phase already has at least 6 probably 7 talents debuting next month between EN Gen3 and JP Gen2
source? because i call bullshit on that.

>>59721690
>>59722246
>Original got homeless
>Jason threatened to sue a homeless person
>Homeless bitch believed him
>Jason convinced the homeless girl to work on music for free
LMAO

>>59726296
Wrong.
Check historically relevant examples
>Invaders Wave 1
Phase's original gen2 is delayed from menhera artists breakdowns, Sakana debuts Lumi and Yuri in Invaders ahead of Gen2. Gen2 girl has breakdown and posts a catalog thread about newer girls debuting before her.
>Invaders Wave 2
Tsunderia shuts down and Dizzy and Ember debut about a year later in Phase

Verdict: Fish has shown he is willing to prioritize invaders over other talents in some cases (Loomi's noombas) and can wait to debut invaders later in other cases (Dizzy/Ember)

>>59727175
He (allegedly) paid $50 for the rights to Athy's model. There is no fucking way he paid that little for the S2 models.

>while company goes down because some seething old roasties
still laughing kek

>>59715838
He's a different guy. He's starting to hate Jason, too little too late. Should have realized he went into business with a fraud. The chances of Jason paying this guy back is close to Nill

>Megumi Kuragiri references an old genmate that does NSFW that Jason tried to scout.
>Obviously Reiyu GuiGui.
>Reiyu retweets two old tweets about black corpos being black corpos from December of 2022 today.
>This was the exact timeline when AkioAIR S2 was being scouted.

https://twitter.com/reiyuguigui/status/1597042305281982464
https://twitter.com/reiyuguigui/status/1599218452652097536

>>59728911
holy shit he's comically evil at this point

Most anons will see this post >>59729159 and think it's bait but it's not. This is a genuine opinion from a man who has spent too much time consuming outrage bait about feminists and wants to protect all men from those evil women (especially his own mother) who are out to get them. Maybe one day, that poster will find a positive father figure in his life but it is more likely he will die without ever drinking from the wellspring of a father's essence.

>>59729110
He paid that for commercial rights going forward. He didn't pay that for the new model illustration/rigging, nor did he buyout the original model as far as we know.

>>59721336
This model is also great to use if you are trying to learn how to Rig complex stuff!

>>59729458
gaddamn that's some heavy nsfw stuff I didn't know that type of creator

>>59729458
Interesting hypothesis but you could have warned us about the futa dick and tits out on her pinned post below her profile

>>59730139
this is the only good outcome of this whole situation, an great an expensive model that every rigger or aspiring-rigger can work with

>>59730348
reiyu makes selen look skinny and cute, bitch is a full grown whale lol

>Jason LARPs as Sakana
If true, did he force his talents to ERP as Phase talents too?
Who was Pippa and Lumi?

Reminder that the girls got ZERO DOLLARS from all this merch.

>>59732064
Not a penny

>>59732124
Big-ish looking crowd. I wonder how many people bought.

>>59728481
Alias was 6 chubbas and Origins JP and EN were 7 (3 JPs and 4 ENs). I
Sakana confirmed that Gen 3 would be coming out in Q4 of this year, during the UFO stream when Pippa asked him at 2:01:23 so next month is bullshit as it could be at any point between yesterday and December 31st.
https://www.youtube.com/live/yMLWl0BWGwU

Here the Fish talks about how they are doing another region group at 59:06 and then "accidentally" confirms that there are multiple JP girls at 2:05:06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Ohd3t5Dno

>>59706374
>>59706761
>phase connect will pick up athena
Another chinese company, wow! This time she'll lose her old model for sure lmao!

>>59732064
This hurts me alot. I'm so sorry for the girls who lost all there merch sales

>>59732064
I actually own akio merch, fuckin scammed

>>59734305
The sad part is, we could of made better merch for them than jason e-e

>>59732124
>>59732166
>Agency produced merch of agency owned IP
I don't think even the holos see a penny from stuff like that. Kuzuha from Niji said something along these lines too.

>>59732989
things will be different this time because fishman could never do anything wrong

>>59706761
should have poached Megumi whilst he was at it considering she was absolute Phase material...but he only cared about Tsunderia people and Jelly

>>59707185
Get told to kill himself by all vtubers out there?

>>59735337
Percentage of sales from merch go to the talents. It's why they promote their merch and this is normal in the business world because the talents are basically sales reps.
Are you Jason or just a weirdo from another dimension where people work for free? Even Phase girls get more than 9% commission from every coffee bag sold that has their respective face on it

>>59735568
it's more that he's easily placated, as long as you shill the coffee he's happy

>>59736569
Also it's weird to bring up Niji because the fact they don't get shit (metaphorically) from merch was a big point against them. And I say metaphorically because they do get a cut, it's just super small

>>59736578
What would Athy's coffee taste like?

>>59736721
Owl pellets

>>59716776
You type like a Jason

>>59737122
Can I type like a Jason as well?

lets start jason larping

>>59737355
Your funeral, I'll sue for defamation if you badmouth me.

>>59737355
Jason larps as Fishman so by larping as Fish you're larping as Jason already

>>59682491
Do they qualify as black corpo?

>>59737355
Come here kitten. It's time for your Overwatch lessons.

>>59737556
Yes, because they still keep Lua from paying off her sex dept to me

>>59716037
My brother, glad to see someone else understands. I've been thinking along these lines the entire time.

>>59737556
You can talk about any corpo and make arguments for why they are or are not black but they are not confirmed until something like akioair situation or wactor happens.
>>59716037
>>59738157
Has Uruka gotten her singing voice back yet? I'm 99% sure it's a psychological problem manifesting as a physical condition.

>>59722246
I mean in a sense she did, just now we can see it was justified and not just being menhera.

>>59723691
If anything, all available evidence is that the existing talents would have been strongly opposed to it.

>>59738442
No, she's still in the midst of doing tests. It's also not psychological; the specialist saw swelling and some other issues in her vocal cords. I believe acid reflux might've been a probable cause.

>>59735337
> I don't think even the holos see a penny from stuff like that
Wrong. They get around 50-50 cut from profit, so probably around 20-40% of revenue. Most of Holo merchs fall into this category
If the merch is produced / funded by talents themselves, they get most of the profit instead. However, those are rare

>>59738977
I used to have stomach acid problems but they went away after I moved to a different place because I stopped eating buckwheat all the time because I liked it too much.
Uruka is known to eat freezer food and fast food and generally weird things so I could see how that could cause it.
Then again she's in, what year of academia, could be stress-related suffering that weakens the body and makes it susceptible to failing.

>>59729486
>drinking from the wellspring of a father's essence
That sure is some phrasing, anon.

>>59739274
>20-40% of revenue is 50% of profit
>40-80% of the sale price is profit
>60 down to 20% of sale price is cost of goods
>markup on goods is 67-400% over the cost
dyrbi?

>>59736721
>coffee
>nurse
i assume it would be extremely strong

>>59736569
Look kid, I'm a numbers regular and have been following athy from well before she became a vtuber.

>Percentage of sales from merch go to the talents.
There's a difference between getting 1% and 50%. There's also a difference between costs of promotion and costs of production (take a wild guess which of the two is more expensive for a vtuber).
If the S1 talents were participating on the upfront costs of the merch production and never saw a penny, then they got scammed.
If only the agency was paying the bills, then it's up to their generosity how much goes to the talents really. Idol corp claims that 20% from revenue is industry standard but I don't really buy that.

>>59739274
Source: your ass. From what we read in the financial reports, the talents did NOT get a 50% cut from SuperEXPO profits. Are you out of your mind?
Cover isn't so generous when it comes to the merch they produce. Mio asked Cover to stock more of her stuff on a fan meeting event, worried for her miofa... and Cover was fine about it as long as SHE faced the risk (picrel). She should've listened to the sales team.

>>59736684
How is it weird to bring up a corpo vtuber that got asked how much money he gets from merch and said nearly nothing

>>59739413
When a strong and good man enters a room, the people feel at ease. When a temperamental man enters a room he makes the people nervous and angry. Temperamental can mean anything from abusive and violent to cowardly and weak ie most men.

>>59740058
Good job missing the point completely.

>>59740037
Signed merch means participation.
Granted a few signatures is a low ammount of effort but that alone raises the value of a product and deserves compensation.
In one of the above letters, a talent claims they all received nothing from con merch.

>>59740326
You missed the point, or essence of my words, by trying to make a sussy joke to compensate for the fact that you have only bad male rolemodels in your life.

>>59740448
Can you be my good male rolemodel, daddy?~

https://twitter.com/mew_horizon/status/1708983258988589507
bomb incoming

>>59703346
Boo fucking hoo, the sheltered zoomie girls didn't get to milk money out of lonely men in a black company.

He could have had it all

>>59741686
Holy

>>59742940
literally wtf are you doing in /vt/

>>59741686
I heard rumours they owe her a lot of money. It's interesting AA is a black corpo, but they are so incompetent they can't take control of talent's Twitter accounts.
Her most recent video is great and I'm pretty sure it's not an accidental choice of a song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P4ZV7uWQa4..

Any news on Kion?

>>59731426
anon... you made me get my hopes up and look and everything. she's just fuckn chubby at best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XMp4rkljG4

Why are there so many phasefags in this thread

>>59688237
No, Code X NextStage project lost 2 of their talents after their now deleted live concert and debutes, then a 3rd quit 3 months later, only 2 remain

>>59746064
Did Blair resurface yet?

>>59746712
She's the robot in VNU gen 3, i think

>>59745750
shes a whale anon

>>59740910
No. I cannot.

>>59747846
omg literally mei from overwatch
anon, where's the proof this is reiyu?

>>59745826
Jason LARPs as Sakana in discord and is himself a Phasefag therefore he is subject to them and like begets like.

Noah hid most of her VODs

>>59712943
Gone because she deleted her Twitter, but she was going to graduate on the 4th. Bitched on Xitter about people sending hate to AkioAir, then privated and then deleted Twitter. Defending AA was already a bad look but when the beans started spilling she just nuked everything, lest she forever be associated with defending a kuro corp. Also her replying to Nophi and Jason liking her tweets already made her a suspect of being a potential skinwalker.

>>59748766
This is so confusing bro. Too bad there are no screenshots or archives. Or at least none I can find in my sleepy mindstate.

>>59748938
Yeah, I think there's screenshots of her replying to Nophi, but no of her defending AkioAir. If she wasn't really going to skinwalk for Jason this doesn't help her at all, deleting everything.

>Get accepted into black company
>Stick around for a while
>Jump ship when things get bad enough and become infinitely times more known than before
>99% guaranteed chance to be accepted into any other medium/small corpo of your choosing
This is like Cyberlive 2.0 lol. What are the chances of PixelLink gen 2 being 90% former AkioAir talents?

>>59684041
>he sided with Froot against Anthime
Explain to me why this is bad or wrong
Ant is a doxxfag anti trying to milk drama for her failing channel

>>59749391
Froot DMCA'd Ant's videos with false DMCA claims aka flagging. In the history of youtube, several big name creators have sent false DMCA reports to silence and take down smaller creators who criticize them.
This is DMCA abuse is horrible behavior that Froot did and False sided with her.

>>59749351
Which girls do you think will go to which corpo? Here's mine:
Orion/Hanabi: Phase or Pixel
Megumi: Phase or stay indie
Bunie: Eien
Kivi: Pixel
Wawa: Pixel when she turns 18
Maria: Idol or Pixel

>>59749818
hoping these girls dont apply to pixellink cuz it will fuck over everyone else who is trying to get in (my 2 view oshi)

>>59749351
If Maria applies to Pixel she'll probably get in, if Kivi talks with Tora-P she'll get in. Megumi has a decent chance of being poached by fish man because she's friends with Sleepy and other Pippa orbiters

>>59749759
>Froot DMCA'd Ant's videos
No, she did not. Ant posted a screenshot of the claim and it very clearly displays the issuer which is a third-party company acting on behalf of VShojo.

Depressingly, she's illiterate and thought that the description of the content which was claimed was the name of the claimant.
And all her dramafag fans just took her word for it instead of taking 10 seconds to read the damn image.

Wouldn't publicly talking about the drama on their personal accounts make them unlikely candidates for other corpos? I know that even announcing your intent to audition equals an auto-rejection for any decent corpo. I can't imagine that shittalking your previous corp, even if it was a black company, wouldn't be a red flag for recruiters

>>59750466
>hire a girl who was in black corpo
>treat her well so that she'll love your corpo
>your corpo automatically gains a very good reputation
at least that's how I see it

>>59750458
>third-party company acting on behalf of VShojo
Why would they need to act on behalf of vshojo anyways? Vshojo hired them to do that. Gunrun is very on top of the streamer market in the west, he shouldn't be thought-policing dissent like that. How would Vshojo even know to send this corpo after critics unless Froot made a big deal about it and asked them to scrub for her.

>>59750466
I think it'd be really good PR to "save the abused girls". Especially with corpos that accept PLs like Phase Invaders, Idol and Prism. Twitter would love the corpo for it

>>59750466
If a company saw you exposing another for illegal or unethical practices and decided that was bad for them, then they are probably not a company you want to be in to begin with.

>>59750466
The recruiters are saviorfag men and their assistant women. Very different from HR fatties and roasties in the west.

>>59750597
>How would Vshojo even know to send this corpo after critics
>critics
...

Anyway, they know to do it because that is literally what they are contracted to do.
Most likely, YouTube's automated content ID system flagged Ant's video, and all those flags are sent to that company to investigate and deal with.

I mean if you actually watched False's video about it, he got a very clear response from VShojo that Froot did not issue the claim and did not even know about it.

The entire point of agencies is so that their talent don't have to bother with that shit. It gets taken care of for them.

>>59749351
>Stick around for a while
Maria...

>>59750631
In an ideal world, yeah, but business is business. Can't imagine that these start up corpos all have spotless management and absolutely no internal issues at all.

>>59750868
/corpo/'s savior and nemesis

>>59750868
the slayer of the unworthy

>>59750837
Companies should not be able to trample on Free Speech but I suppose we live in a Cyberpunk world where zoomers, ESLs, and various communist and capitalist political groups think it should be normal.
You could argue if Froot is or is not responsible for the DMCA, it's possible she's not, but defending a corporation for silencing a person's speech drives offroad into bootlicker territory.

>>59750837
It also shifts the blame in the public eye. "It wasn't VShojo, it was a different company that did that." Even though VShojo explicitly pays companies like this for this exact thing. It's like blaming the private detective rather than the person that hired him. It's fucking ridiculous.

>>59748333
>H2O2
>like H2O but toxic
how fitting

>>59751245
Free speech (and fair use) do not protect defamation.

>>59751250
>It wasn't VShojo, it was a different company that did that.
But that is quite literally the truth.

>>59751458
Great job reading the rest of my comment. Guess I'll be completely blameless for hiring a hitman then, 'cause I wouldn't've been the killer.

>>59751619
No, I read it. It's just stupid.
You hire a hitman to do something illegal.
VShojo hired a copyright protection company to protect their copyright, which is not illegal. It's not VShojo's fault if they do it wrong (they didn't).

>>59751733
must be some tasty leather on that boot lmao

>>59749934
And wasn't there something about the talents shittalking Pixel and their talents with Jacob? Granted, they were probably feeling obligated to do so, but I don't want people like that near the Pixel girls regardless.

>>59751733
It doesn't make it right just because it's legal, anon. DMCA abuse is fucking plague and you know it. Just wait until companies come after Vshojo for stealing all their react content. And no, DMCA is not intended as a tool to counter defamation. Defamation does not fall under copyright. There are other legal pathways intended for this.

>>59749818
Praying Nophi goes to Phase
Their CEO is retarded but at least not a groomer and they have decent management

>>59752109
>And wasn't there something about the talents shittalking Pixel
Apparently it was a girl called yuufi or something like that, she was sent by Jason to audition and basically do corporate espionage