/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>59706180
>>Still says shes broke
>What do these whores blew their money on??!

>me<

>>59706180
They're lying so people give them more.

>>59706180
Name them you stupid wagey monkey, show receipt

>>59706180
Taxes that the IRS make everyone pay at gun point

>>59706180
Condom money for me (I have a lot of sex)

>>59706180
50-80% of what they receive from jewtube goes into other fees and taxes niggertard, not to mention a single MV can cost up to a quarter of a million usd.

>>59706180
they're women. as soon as they get money they start buying more expensive make-up, more expensive perfume, start doing their nails and eyelashes several times a month costing hundreds of dollars each time etc, start buying luxury brand clothes (see kson shopping for tens of thousands of dollars at gucci). women do not save money.

>>59706180
The only holoEN I can think of that complains about money and taxes is Mori. And she's the most likely one to live beyond her means.

>>59706180
>Be a woman
>Get a buttloads of disposable income by doing nothing
>Spend it on frivolous things because you're a woman
It's easy to spend money when you didn't work for it. Just look at Africans. They immediately spend all the humanitarian aid they get on shit they don't need.

>>59706180
Internet, rent, electricity, PC parts, games to stream, food, taxes, maybe they have old parents or kid to feed, pet food, gasoline, clothes, shits they want to buy, etc

>>59706180
A few of them get absolutely fucked by taxes; Kiara was just talking about this and Mori thought she had to pay taxes twice. Mysta owes hundreds of thousands still. A song with a nice MV could go for about that much too speaking of, and they are almost guaranteed to lose money if that particular vtuber isn't popular, go look like some Flare, Watame or Roboco songs. Here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQWarmbdTPg

Otherwise than that though, they are still quite rich but may have spent too much one month.

>>59708190
mori is a citizen of the US and lives in Japan. she does have to pay taxes twice

>>59706180
Did someone already make a breakdown of an average corpo vtuber yet?

>>59708316
Yet she can still afford to buy several houses

>>59708316
Not sure if just shitposting, but Japan and the USA have a treaty to avoid double taxation.

>>59706988
we need to start an uprising against them

>>59709013
That's not possible because most corpos don't make their finances public.

>>59706180
People will throw around the word broke when what they really mean is "I'm being financially responsible and my budget doesn't allow for me to take a bunch of time off and go on vacation yet so I'm broke :(."

>>59706180
Rent because they all live in Tokyo. And it wouldn't surprise me if most lives in the middle of Tokyo in one of the more expensive wards. The area of Tokyo that Cover Corp is in, according to their website, Minato-Ku, is one of the most expensive places in Tokyo to rent in. Next you have to consider that they also have multiple rooms to cover living room, a bedroom and a streaming room/office and you're looking at a 3+ room apartment, in central Tokyo.

tl:dr your oshi is most likely paying between 1 and 2 million yen a month just for her apartment

>>59706180
she grew up with enough money to have a computer, the free time, and parents accepting of her fucking around with it all enough to end up as a vtuber. they come from backgrounds where they are used to nicer things.
and your SEA money goes a lot farther than a dollar or yen.

>>59706180
Games? Computer tech? If it's not corporate then all the assets and shits?

Funfact - unless you "make it big", there's no money in Vtubing. You just get enough to patch up holes that naturally appear and need to be patched up to continue streaming.

>>59706180
Hookers and blow

>>59706180
30% goes to Youtube
30% goes to Cover
Of the remaining 40%, ~30% goes to the government
Meaning that actual net pay is about 28% of total earnings

>>59706180
>What do these whores blew their money on??!
You live in a third-world country where cost of living is dirt-cheap. Rent in civilized countries is like ten times higher.

you have to realize most of these vtubers are early to mid 20s who have never held an in person job or had any real responsibilities who suddenly come into what they think is a lot of money. it’s the same way lottery winners and pro athletes go broke in a few years

>>59709064
Amazing what having 2 million subs, a record contract, and a Spotify account with millions of listens can do for your income if you're smart with money (she lives a frugal lifestyle and saves most of it because she's not a dumbass).

>>59709094
That may be true for a certain amount of federal taxes (many treaties aren't 1 to 1) and possibly only for FICA but not medicare. I also highly doubt state taxes are included as well. So yes, she may pay less but I highly doubt it's none.

>>59709507
While this is true, there are also people who literally live from paycheck to paycheck because they can't stop themselves from spending it all on beer and clothing. I had a coworker like that once and I was dumbstruck hearing him complain about having no money for lunch so many days.

>>59715294
>she's not a dumbass
I mean, good for her that she's saving money but let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

>>59709752
Is this boob size even legal? It's larger than her head.

>>59715186
>Rent in civilized countries is like ten times higher.
Salaries are high in first world countries for a reason, retard.

>>59715531
OP is comparing his own wages to those of vtubers. Try to keep up.

>>59708316
She misunderstood her expat tax laws, if she resided in Japan while still being a citizen of the US, she just needs to pay local taxes. Her confusing was she had to pay local income tax and american income tax. Naturally the institutions that were receiving the money never told her she was mistaken and it took her chat to explain it.

>>59706180
ROCKS AND MERCEDES IS WHAT SHE WANTS

>>59715459
You... have seen Lammy before right?

>>59715782
anon.. i dont know how tell u this. depend on mercedes it will instantly depreciate off the damn dealer.

>>59715872
I think it's just the angle. Looking at Lamy's l2d she doesn't look this huge.

>>59715294
Mori orders out every fucking day. She has more than enough simps superchatting her to make up the difference even without a record deal

>>59706180
depending on where they live they genuinely might not actually be that much better off than you
for example, a yearly salary that would leave you damn near in poverty in NYC would let you live like a king in my part of America

>>59715627
So? They make millions and they can easily buy an independent home. Thus they don't have to worry about rents. They don't need to travel to do their job so no travel expenses.
so where the fuck is the money going

>>59715926
bro don't actually get me started on those pieces of shit

>>59706180
japanese woman so probably gacha and superchats to male streamers

>>59715976
jp junk food isnt that expensive. alcohol is however

fucking idiots
they're spending it all on my condoms

>>59708316
And you believe that shit

>>59706180
Because some can't stop sending supa to their oshi

>>59717278
>deadbeat money being put to good use
I bet mori still anonymously sends money to Charlie. A femcel to the end

>>59706180
Your wagey ways are showing anon, be careful

>>59707134
>a single MV can cost up to a quarter of a million usd.
most of them are made by 19-22 year old freelance wannabe graphic designers who used to make AMVs

>>59715368
If she has a residence in florida, she wouldn't need to pay state income taxes?

>>59706180
Taxes, cover songs, art commissions and a parasitic family leeching from them probably. And lolita clothes.

>>59716246
lol, you're still living at home aren't you? There's so much you don't know about owning a home.

>>59706180
It takes a lot of health supplements and coaching to retain an anime girl physique.

>>59707134
>not to mention a single MV can cost up to a quarter of a million usd.
That's Marine's one who are known specially for being extremely expensive in comparison with any other. A cover MV is probably less than 10k, an original song MV with good quality production probably still less than 50k.

>>59708190
It is more expensive because it's animated but you can see clearly how they use many fixed long shots and some repeated/minimal animations to save some money and time, like it's common in many animes.

>>59706180
There are some people who just think like that. My family are nowhere near poor, but they are always talking as if this or that expense is going to ruin them.

>>59706180
>What do these whores blew their money on??!
Condoms and taxes.

>>59706180
Everytime a thread like this gets posted it gets full of copium over how their oshi who earns 20 times more than them is clearly in the brink of bankruptcy because they do things like buying food, paying taxes and ask some freelancer to do some generic animation for their cover songs.

>>59708316
jesus christ, she already walked back on this after consulting this properly with her CPA and yet people still spout horribly misleading statements as fact.

>>59706180
in trips with their boyfriend who doesnt post here.

>>59709752
> Tokyo that Cover Corp is in,
Isn’t it in Itabashi-ward?
IIRC, that area of Tokyo is not that classy place to begin with.
>cheap bars everywhere
>drunkards sleeping on streets
>(non-traditional) Chinese town
>occasionally gun-related crimes take place
It’s the place the founder of 5chan, Hiroyuki, was born and raised. According to his words, it’s the place
>where people go on welfare, and hence we don’t pay tax to the gov. It’s them who pay money to us. In other words, we’re aristocrats, technically.
Therefore it’s not hard to imagine how idols like Lammy, Marine, Korone or Watame spend their days there. Chugging Courvoisier straight out of a bottle wearing 30kg gold chain bragging how much money they swindled out last week.

>>59722287
>holomems behaving like niggers irl
That's a funny image

Let's not address the host bar issue, 'kay?

>>59715186
nigger rent in the west is not hundreds of thousands per year, even in renting hell like london rent is still £1500 a month

>>59722287
Korone is my nigga

>>59722287
Cover is now listed as being in the Minato ward.

>>59709752
They are really fucking stupid if so, the gravy train is not gonna last forever

>>59716250
Not the Anon you're speaking to but I've seen 2006 Honda Odysseys with 150k miles sell for 12 grand when the value for them 2-3 years ago was about 5 grand. Meanwhile the 2010-onward Benz with 15k miles sits on the lot for years before they get sold.

>>59720070
Moona’s was $3k but in her shit hole of a country that’s probably really expensive

>>59706180
>Gacha, musical houses, inordinate amounts on music like it’s actually unnatural, gacha, spontaneous vacations, some of them spend just to spend like buying a whole new wardrobe everytime you don’t plan to go home, parties, disney, and finally Gacha
And saying they are broke is inaccurate they usually say they are in the red or negatives which for them means I made 20k and spent 25k. They don’t do that every month so they aren’t actually broke. That said most of them are actually stupid, some don’t know how to budget, and a very small percentage live with their parents so there parents are keeping them from wasting money which means very good chance if they leave Hololive they’ll start blowing through their money even faster leading to them actually going broke or having to fall back on joining a new vtuber agency to make more money I mean for talent freedom. Being an adult is hard and it gets harder when you forget the value of a dollar.

>>59717523
Average MV is couple grand but some of them get high quality animation putting it at tens of thousands. The most expensive MV we know about is still Marine’s 3rd or 4th song, the one before treasure box, and Gura almost paid the same for a cover song she wanted to do. Good thing her manager decided to act like a parent

>>59706180
My Fauna is a Burton Malkiel-pilled Boglehead gunning for fat FIRE at 30, and she even has playing money to fuck around with factor investing (she's a bit of a Fama & Frenchcel), betting against beta, leveraged crypto CFDs, and other shit like that.
Now, when it comes to YOUR oshi? She's getting fucked by a
>>>>>>>>>>financial advisor
as we speak.

>>59706180
They don't live with their family like you do. Also things cost a lot more in The West than in SEAland.
Like a big Mac meal is 15.00usd that's a lot of money. Probably more than you will ever see in your life. Pagpag is completely free. See very different.

>>59709064
I mean houses in Texas are pretty much free. Who wants to live there.

>>59722287
Itabashi is the Compton of Japan?

>>59706180
Streamers only make up to 60% of what they earn through merch and donations.
Corpo streamers earn even less because of countries taxes and because of corpo reserved slice. The rest (which is up to ~40%) is what streamer gets.

>>59731348
That’s low tier streamers donations matter less once you reach a certain size and this was for normal streamers. Podcasts and vtubers flipped it on its head by making an ordinate amount from sponsors, members and super chats. Even then hololive is different because their biggest lump sum comes from merch

>>59715162
so please send 3x as much each SC so your oshi gets the amount you intended.

>>59706180
Don't use Luna for your shitty bait faggot EOP

>>59706180
A fool and their money are soon parted.

>>59706969
>Kson bragged about buying an incredibly expensive bed
No need to get so angry, paypiggy.

>>59732253
Anon she needed that new bed to withstand how hard I can thrust my penis into her vagina.

>>59732253
Miko bragged about an expensive bed first. Why is Kson like this?

>>59715459
No, it's not legal.

>>59732151
Averages are silly because they don't account for a tiny percentage of people at the top making silly "money" (see: net "worth").

>>59732253
tatsunokos specifically sent her money for the expensive bed when she was debating more affordable options

>>59706180
oh nyo

>>59729221
bring back sovl

>>59707373
>because you're a woman
You're literally on a board filled with men who spend their money frivolously.

>>59715162
>30% goes to Youtube
Cover should actually set up streamlabs for their nonID talents.

>>59706180

>>59706180
men

>>59706180

>>59730541
None of them involving you though. Her money collected from mentally ill people doesnt mean its a point for you to brag. Female vtubing is an immoral thing for to you take pride on if you think about it.

>>59709752
Rent and housing in Tokyo is mad cheap, like insanely cheap. Literally what are you talking about.

>>59706180
Women are generally squanderers. They're unable to plan. You have to remember women are different from men and recognise this difference. As for the complaining, I think streamers get a vanity high and it makes them feel good to whine. As for where the cash is literally going, I imagine it's spent recklessly on stuff like uber eats, subscriptions that go unused, and general carelessness rather than any big purchase.

>>59717523
>most of them are made by 19-22 year old freelance wannabe graphic designers who used to make AMVs
If only. And even then every single song cost anywhere from 300k-1 million yen. BEFORE RECORDING.
Being an Idol is perpetual poverty unless you're top earner.

>>59755530
It's the most expensive place to live in Japan. Actual Japanese people living in Japan say this all the time.

>>59755530
Spoken like a retard
>namefag
Of course.

>>59756304
It's mad cheap, I don't know what to tell you. Most flats sell for under 10m jpy (yes, in Tokyo). I'm literally flying to Japan next week to buy a house. I've been researching all year. I'll be buying more later as investments, specifically because they are so cheap. Perhaps you are listening to poor people or complainers, everything is forever expensive for them.

>>59756381
t. Multimillionaire that has actually lived in Tokyo.

>>59756477
>buying flats
>in goddamn Japan
Single house or nothing. Buying flats are for retard.
>>59756620
>(you)

>>59756745
Depends how central you are, living in a city you really want to have a flat, especially with the incredible views they have on high floors in Tokyo. I think most people here would be happy in a flat. Some neighbourhoods (like Ueno) have the best of both worlds, city life with a house, but even there you feel so distant from the city despite being right in the heart of it.

Generally, when density is low, there's a reason. Density means many want to be there. Usually because it's wonderful.

>>59717523
Everyone and their dog wanting to be a VTuber has pushed prices up , now you hear indies talking about paying 35k dollars for a 2 min "lore" video

>>59758572
Without original song? That's a fucking scam

>>59706180

They're saying that to trigger the male instinct to provide for women, which is the reason people simp in the first place. Well, that and extreme, pathological loneliness.

The mentally ill simps who engage in this behavior have long since lost their ability to think rationally. They don't hear a claim like that and think "this person makes six figures a month, there's no way that can't be true", their brain just does this thing where they go "AHHH I'M SO LONELY AND HORNY MUST GIVE MONEY TO CUTE GIRL IN NEED AHHHH UNNGHHHH"

>>59760415
Sane posters are truly a sight to behold

Sucks to be on a board where the failed rhetoric is bottom-feeder mentality so the girls don't dip into prostitution or homelessness considering their aptitude for anything other then streaming

Well, as the old saying goes, there truly is a market for everything, even loneliness

>>59709752
Studio is in a different place and unknown.
They don't go to HQ only to studio.

>>59722287
The original cover (basically pre-gura cover) was probably itabashi. HQ+studio combine
Current cover HQ is in Minato for clout and investment (the one with merch shelf and sora stand) with some recording room. The old place is still used as studio + merch currently (the big L shape building that leak).
And the 20 billion (the one with signed wall) is somewhere probably Akabane.
Most sources suggested that it is no where near public transport while the HQ and the studio#1 has bus