/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>59567975
Because this board is dominated by the mentally ill and the maliciously insincere. Crazy people and people who want to stir the pot and cause shitflinging out of spite and boredom.

something something when you act like idiots something something
good company

>>59568041
/thread

Stop telling people how they should consume entertainment and you have much easier time.

>>59568195
>Stop gatekeeping your hobby and let the shitters take over
No, I don't think I will

>>59567975
What do you think a girlfriend is? A whore that you only have sex with?
Of course not, so stop thinking that GFE is only about having sex

>>59567975
I came harder than ever when my oshi did her first spicy asmr. It felt much more intense than just watching porn and it was probably the closest that I will be to having consensual loving sex.
I don't regret a single thing

>>59568255
I think that you should go outside and find an actual girlfriend instead of misinterpreting the purpose of virtual idols

>>59567975
Nobody should see chuubas as a virtual girlfriend ever. It's correct

>>59568340
Thank you for no fault of your own being sane

>>59568247
>hobby
Jesus christ. And go ahead but don't whine when people don't play by your imaginary rules.

There's a reason this is considered a containment board

>>59568286
bro just end it all at that point

>>59568495
But it isn't, it has never been considered one except by buttblasted /v/ posters

>>59568412
Listen, people can do what they want, but i can also do what i want, which includes being an anti towards people who do stuff that i don’t like

>>59568286
I appreciate these kinds of posts. Sometimes I think this hobby is somehow normal and these kinds of statements instantly bring me back to reality. Thank you.

>>59568711
It is normal, but people like him aren't

>>59568711
This hobby is normal like any other hobby, there are weirdo and creep anywhen anywhere.

>>59568875
>normal
Even watching streams isn't normal, imagine watching streams with anime png, fags trying so hard to be a normalfag when they aren't is more pathetic than being a schizo

>>59568966
>imagine watching streams with anime png
I watch idols performing in massive expo halls in front of thousands of people in the audience and tens of thousands watching live

>>59567975
>Why is it now considered a hot take that you shouldn't see chuubas as your virtual girlfriends?
Because /vt/ got flooded with /r9k/ faggots, just look at Lui threads these days filled with defeatist cunts who enjoy being miserable and talk about shit they don't know about.

>>59569058
And /v/tards who are raiding this board out of spite after Holocure got popular

>>59568041
Nailed it with the very first post. A lot of the threads you see on this board regarding certain vtubers and weirdly specific hate threads are made insincerely and for the purpose of riling others up to make it seem like this kind of attitude is the general consensus. It's bot behavior. Nobody actually cares that much about what a girl does.
Any hate threads that pop up are the equivalent of a guy going into a convenience store and knocking shelves down while screaming and shitting on the floor to cause as much of a scene as possible. Normal people don't do that.

>>59568966
>fags trying so hard to be a normalfag when they aren't
imagine having this little self awareness

>>59569099
>And /v/tards who are raiding this board out of spite after Holocure got popular
I still play holocure but the active players have dropped below 4k already.
It's not really popular like BG3.

>>59569052
>thinking tens of thousands of people are great shit
If you want to be a normalfag go watch sports or TV series that have millions of people watching every match/episode, even anime isn't normal even though it's turning into mainstream for years now and it's 100 times bigger than vtubers

>>59569272
why the fuck are you even on this board if you hate vtubers and everything japanese?
the only one pretending to be a normalfag here is (you)

>>59569196
Imagine watching anime png for hours and thinking that's normal, I'm the one who lacks self awareness huh
I love hololive but it's far from normal, you need contact with true normal people, they don't even know Pewdiepie or Mr beast, imagine hololive

>>59569058
it's honestly amazing how /r9k/ is such a malignant tumor on this site. Some dudes can't get pussy and decide to make it everyone else's problem.

>>59569370
>normalfags don't know Pewdiepie or Mr beast
Are you truly, genuinely, unironically fucking retarded?

>>59569306
I love hololive and like anime, what I'm saying it isn't normal to watch it like some anons are saying, just a fraction of people watch youtube consistently, a fraction of that fraction watch streamers and a fraction of that fraction watches vtubers, saying it's normal it's like saying that being /here/ is normal when the average person doesn't even know this place exists

>>59569505
You are using "normal" in place of "mainstream in the west".
Vtubers are mainstream in the country they originated now.
This is a Japanese hobby and applying American societal norms to it is beyond retarded.

>>59569416
Yes, do you think Mr beast is like Jackie Chan, The Rock and those guys just because he has 100m+ subscribers? They're popular asf but still majority of people outside of the internet doesn't even know his name, you guys are too deep into the internet and think that knowing some random influencer with millions of subs is common sense

>>59568550
>by /v/
This is a containment board from /jp/, and arguably /aco/. Before /vt/ people primarily discussed western vtubers in /trash/
>h-holo board
I, frankly, dont know why the fuck those retards migrated, bur theyre here too.

>>59569706
Everyone under the age of 30 uses the internet for several hours daily, gramps

>>59569730
>Before /vt/ people primarily discussed western vtubers in /trash/
should've stayed that way to be honest, its very fitting

>>59569767
You act like that is okay

>>59569829
Oh, I see
>>>/pol/
You can discuss how the west has fallen in there

Because we didn't gatekeep hard enough and yet another fandom has fallen victim to ironic weeb westoids.

>>59569867
/thread (2)

Because, as is the case with most groups, the loudest voices are often those of psychopaths and narcissists who throw tantrums when they don't get their way or don't like something and make damn sure everyone knows how mad they are. Their only interests in vtubers are to use them as jerk-off material and emotional validation (they treat real people like this as well, but only vtubers will give them the time of day), so the idea that a vtuber could be anything but an online prostitute doesn't make sense to them. Meanwhile the vast majority of people who watch vtubers do indeed simply tune in to watch a funny anime character play games and sing songs, but they don't chat or comment or involve themselves in discussion about vtubers at all.

>>59568041
>Because this board is dominated by the mentally ill and the maliciously insincere
>this board
Anon, real life is dominated by those kinds of people. Once you realize that 98% of people (normies) are pathological liars by nature and that virtually everyone is also clinically mentally ill due to metabolic dysfunction from shitty food and drugs, people's behavior begins to really make sense.

>>59569867
Anyone whose primary interaction with japanese culture is through anime girls is already an ironic weeb.

>>59569923
>due to metabolic dysfunction from shitty food and drugs
this is mostly only a problem in the states, corn syrup and sneed oils are banned here in europe

The percentage of unicorns in the fanbase has increased because most people who weren't straight up in love with the characters have pretty much stopped caring about vtubers since over a year ago.

>>59567975
there's no vtubing, only holotubing

>>59568041
>>59569058
>>59569867
>>59569923
OP here, its good to know that there are still some semi-sane people left on this board

>>59570057
I watch holo for 4 years, tell me a retard that would watch for that long just because of "entertainment", those types watch one year at most and fuck off, for you to be a long time vtuber fan you need to be at least a bit parasocial, if you watch it purely for entertainment you would get bored in months and go back to games, series, anime and things like that

never give an inch, if people were neutral about things like HLZNTL Yagoo would be as retarded as to think we want the homos even in our soup. You're not complaining? well that means you liked the homos!!! let's put them more into holo stuff!!! Yagoo himself had made sure that if you don't vocally tell him you don't want them he's gonna push them as far as he can, many unicorns don't even hate the remaining homos and think Cover is being retarded for trying to push them to an audience that doesn't care about them nor will.
People don't want a NijiEN lite and a new Luca/Uki in the making

>>59569706
>People outside of the internet
Who 3rd worlders? Who is outside of the internet in 1995+28?

>>59570343
>tell me a retard that would watch for that long just because of "entertainment"
me

>>59570381
Using internet to talk with your contacts and watch a movie or video once in a while is vastly different from staying hours watching streams, twitter, /here/, discord and things like that

>>59567975
Cool. Please enjoy them for these things you listed.
That said, if you're going to tell people that they shouldn't treat talents from an idol company like idols, then you're a fucking tourist who has no business telling people how to get their entertainment.

>>59570629
treating them like idols means not treating them like sex dolls

>>59569505
Anime isn't niche anymore, grandpa.

>>59569867
The irony of this fucking post is unreal.
You're all smalltime compared to old, hardcore idol fan crowd. If anyone should have been gatekept - it's people like you.

>>59567975
They're idols anon, you probably don't know since you're a newfag but idols are put with ridiculous expectations, holos are getting the light version yet several of them can't handle even that, if they're treated like true idols at least half would quit and the side branches would close besides maybe 2 members

>>59567975
I don't really see them as my girlfriends but they should remain single or lesbian for my viewing pleasure. I just don't want to watch cute anime girls with boyfriends.

>>59568550
baffling post

>>59569867
>ironic weeb westoids
Kson bootlicker spotted. Yeah. It's not like japanese fans were the ones who actually stalked talents, no sir. And Aloe didn't happen, what are you talking about?
There's no way asian idol fans threatened, stalked, tried to poison talents or anything like that! Ironic internet weebs are the actual problem!
Fuck you and fuck that dumb whore.

>>59571146
sonneting something throw rock something something dog yelps

>>59570593
How many do you think use YouTube/Hulu/Netflix some form of streaming service? That’s all the internet. Mr.Beast doesn’t even make sense since he’s been on national news station and made headlines several times

>>59570343
Holos and vtubers in general are pretty bad at being entertaining when it comes to gaming content. They usually aren't that interested in the game and just chose it to have something to stream.
Most good gaming content I see comes from people who are dedicated to a small number of games. They'll post guides, highly skilled gameplay, and are knowledgeable about game-specific memes.

>>59571253
Show me 1 (one) time a western fan actually did something bad to any chuuba. Go on, whore.

>>59569867
The ironic weeb westoids are the ones who watch it for entertainment alone, they even find the whole notion of oshi ridiculous and call them simps and blah blah blah, you literally inverted it

>>59570057
it hasn't, it's just the prime shitposting ammo at the moment

>some japs are mentally ill fans so it's expected of me to be the same

>>59568286
Lmao.

>>59567975
No, you're just a pathetic retard that made up some shitty boogeyman because you read too much unhinged shitposting on /vt/.
Your "evil gachikois" don't exist. Your "ERPing GFE incels" are not real. At best you have bunch of people dissatisfied with male vtubers etc... and then you have ppl from here, a low-intelligent human slime feeding on destruction. And that final group has nothing to do with gachikois, idol culture, male vtubers etc - they will be here no matter what and will be pushing envelope just to fuck around with girls and you.

>>59571372
Mori broke down from retarded antis to the point where she considered going back to her RM if that counts

>>59570959
Idols are not like that anymore. Things change.
They are allowed to have boyfriends now grandpa. Also Hololive girls are not idols, it was always supposed to be a joke.

>>59571723
>Also Hololive girls are not idols, it was always supposed to be a joke.
based retard

>>59567975
Now that you mention it, it's very interesting that a lot of the arguments about vtubers mirrors a lot of the shit I'd hear about ERP in /wowg/ and /xivg/ many years ago. Even the "ewwww who the fuck ERPs with males???" sentiment felt similar to the shit about male vtubers now.
If not for the high SEA population on this board I'd wager that a lot of people on /vt/ are cat or lizard players.

>>59571723
this post screams en only

>>59571657
I guess they forced her to browse /vt/.
Even during the time she fucked up, containment breaking fags were an easily ignored minority. Even reddit fags who confronted her were polite about it.
But go on, explain to me how a bunch of retarded sisters are just as bad as actual stalkers.

>>59571753
He backed off from that super hard. Everyone even memed about how his dream was dead. Most of the Hologirls have boyfriends and a bunch of them don't even focus on idol activities.

>>59571829
>He backed off from that super hard.
Proof?

>>59571584
>Your "evil gachikois" don't exist. Your "ERPing GFE incels" are not real.

>>59571372
The entire Live/Merge fiasco was basically just this - bunch of retards screeching because peepee poopoo my girls!
Tho for the defense I must say that both girls and management fucked up badly, too. And there was Mr.Yabadabadoo who riled up enemies even among less crazy Hololive fans. That entire shitshow was a mistake and comedy from all sides, hopefully there will be no attempt of doing it again.

>>59571886
Rushia would have been completely fine if she wasn't insane

>>59571950
Lol no. Remember Towa?

>>59571829
>He backed off from that super hard.

>>59569370
You are an out of touch boomer. Every zoomer knows both.

>>59570343
Watching the "same" holo I'd agree but the hololive microcosmos is vast enough to offer multiple forms of entertainment within its own boundaries

>>59571723
>Also Hololive girls are not idols
This poster only watches the meme branch known as hololive English

>>59567975
A bigger problem for me is people calling you cuck for not being obsessively in love with the VTuber you watch.
I mean, come on, what the fuck is that logic?

>>59571905
bunch of retards screeching =/= stalking and driving a person into a suicide attempt.
Kson can spout her nonsense about ironic weebs all she wants, but the hard truth is that asian idol fans are actually insane and can be a bigger threat by far. You think those defamation laws in japan are just for show? Spoiler, they were actually needed.

>>59572163
>I mean, come on, what the fuck is that logic?
The "logic" of someone who is chronically addicted to internet pornography and is no longer able to view women as people

>>59572002
Yeah, i do. Last time i saw her, she was doing fine. Your point?

>>59572185
>Enters Japanese hobby
>Hates Japan and Japanese people

>>59571723
>>59571829

You're a retard that actually got memed by "entertainment company" bits.
Hololive has yearly summer festival that is all about idol stuff and between that there are all other concerts both in groups as individual and Cover literally introduced lately new branch that will be focused on music and idol activities. Even on EN side girls lately are focusing much more on that side of Hololive.

>>59572262
If that's your takeaway, then i'm really sorry, because i can't do anything about your profound retardation.

>>59572185
>some japanese fans are insane so all japanese fans are insane
you're real smart

>>59572392
I don't remember saying that. Quote me on it.

Vtubers sells you an experience, if a vtuber sell you GFE and you like it, it's fine, I adore GFE vtubers because they treat me like his boyfriend, but unlike real relationships I dont like being closer to someone, so I have everything I need: a girl and my autism.

>>59572357
NTA but you can kill yourself.
You sound like Redditor that read only about the extreme cases and is not aware of how idol fandom looks as a whole. You probably also watched Oshi no Ko and pissed yourself because "it's just like in real life! Idol culshur bad!"

>>59572262
>>59572484
Someone being retarded doesn't stop being retarded just because they're Japanese.
If some wigger or sea stabbed a tuber they're also retarded piece of shit.
Fuck off with your Last Samurai syndrome.

>>59572325
That's the pretend side of the idol roleplay, also you said "yearly".
All these women have boyfriends anon, stop being retarded. You also never heard Choco talk about her multiple dates and not being groped the correct way on the train.

>>59571753
>mistranslated out of context cl*p
good job proving my point

>>59572590
>All these women have boyfriends
just as silly as saying none of them have boyfriends

>>59572325
>Cover literally introduced lately new branch that will be focused on music and idol activities
nice self-btfo, the fact that they introduced and idol branch just proves that the others are not idol branches

>>59572535
>She really things that Oshi no Ko is real.
No really, kill yourself.

>>59572590
"Pretending to be idols" by doing full blown idol concerts. And yes, Hololive Summer is yearly and is going on for well over month and again besides that there's multiple smaller events - you practically don't have a month without a concert or two.
Also what does their personal life has to do with their idol acitivities? You sound creepy and as another dumbfuck that believes in stories found on reddoot. "Idol Culture" is about cute anime girls dancing, singing and playing character on scene. GFE is actually more of a streamer thing and your "gachikois" are just different taste of simps.

Telling people how they should live their lives is always a hot take. Mind your own business. Entertainment fags are the fakest fans in the world, their real oshi is this board, you barely ever see people discussing their choreographies, Marine has been releasing 踊ってみた shorts and not a peep, but when it's time to talk about other fans and how they should enjoy chuubas, suddenly half the board is all about the dancing.
Fuck off. Talk about the chuubas, like the virtual girlfriend retards do, that's the board's purpose. Not thought policing.
And yes I realize I'm doing the same, but you're literally asking for me to explain it to you.

If a unicorn considers a chuuba his girlfriend, does that mean she’s every unicorn’s girlfriend? Are they all in a polyamorous relationship with her? Are unicorns members of the LGBTQ community?

>>59572880
>How to spot the anon who has zero clue about what idols actually are.
Easy mode

>>59572535
Oshi no ko created a new type of mental illness.

There is no point in having a virtual girlfriend experience when she is also simultaneously doing the same for a hundred other streamwatchers at the same time, it's more like a virtual town bicycle experience

>>59571723
Entertainment company aimirite
I still can't fathom how there's still people like that when they spend tens of thousands of dollars and time doing idol reps

>>59567975
Because, like female fleshtubers, 9 times out of 10 a female vtuber's only worth is her sex appeal. When she removes that worth (be it through pushing coomers away, getting a boyfriend, etc.) there's no longer a reason to care about her.

>>59572325
You'd think that Connect The World would show these retarded EOPs the light and make them understand the true charm of hololive

>>59573172
>they spend tens of thousands of dollars and time doing idol reps
>still fuck their chad off screen

>>59572976
they're showbiz celebrities, japan
that's literally it

>>59573248
my oshi is gay

>>59573173
>9 times out of 10 a female vtuber's only worth is her sex appeal.
Please stop consuming pornography for at least a year, it will heal your mind and soul and you will no longer say retarded shit like this on new york basement clover gathering forums

>>59572880
Although I agree, I don't think Hololive Summer is a good example to get your point across, anon
Things like holoFes and Suisei's solo lives are much better examples

>>59573355
Who is your oshi?

>>59567975
>Why is it now considered a hot take that you shouldn't see chuubas as your virtual girlfriends?
Because many viewers got tired of virtue signalers who screaming about "le evil idol culture"

>>59573172
People who say they aren't idols aren't even fans to me, they basically call their efforts useless, imagine doing dance and singing reps, concerts, songs and some retard say you're a comedian because of a meme he saw on Leddit

>>59573480
how does idol culture relate to delusional walking stereotype neckbeards thinking that the idols in question are somehow in an intimate relationship with them?

>>59573436
the post is right however, she does fuck her chad off stream

>>59573543
>People who say they aren't idols aren't even fans to me, they basically call their efforts useless, imagine doing dance and singing reps, concerts, songs...
and throwing all of that out of the window by having a boyfriend.

>>59573548
They're in an intimate relationship with me, but I'm far from a neckbeard, so project more

>>59573364
How many popular female vtubers can you show me that don't rely coomers? Since what I said is retarded there must be at least dozens you can point to.

>>59573548
Vtuber idol != Flesh idol, yeah shocking information I know

>>59573688
If you mean Azki, Aki and Laplus you're right, besides that no JP is confirmed

>>59572247
Because she branched out. She have gaijin and Apex to save her ass. Rushia have.... Nothing.

>>59569867
>ironic weebs are unicorns
the potery.
as a proud ironic weeb, I agree. we didn't gatekeep hard enough from the mentally ill normie weebs.

the reason why hololive became popular in the west was because the company isn't filled with entitled twitch whores who only 'pretend' to play video games while showing her boobs.
anyone who unironically refers to vtubers are "waifu" has serious issues. this holds specially true due to the fact that they have a real person behind them and are not an actual anime character.

it's mind blowing how normie weebs are now saying they didn't gatekeep hard enough.
normie weebs flooded hololive projecting their expectations, ("oh, since they're idols it must be gfe" or "you just have to appeal to coomers to make easy money") with complete disregard for the culture that was already established. it was this precisely mentality what hololive fans were trying to get away from.
just go back to onlyfans already and simp for your whores.

the fucking irony of purity fags who's understanding of "idol culture" consists of nothing more that simping for an entitled whore who gives GFE but as long as she doesn't stream with males it's fine. I'd rather watch someone who streams with males and still treats her viewers with respect, than watch an entitled bitch who complains that you didn't pay her enough for her asmr stream.
seriously, fuck unicorns and fuck normies.
I'm glad AI is going to make GFE redundant.

>>59572484
Until you can show me a single instance of a western fan doing something illegal to chuuba, you can fuck off. All there us to it.

>>59573813
lol
lmao even

>>59573839
based

>>59573839
>ironic weeb
>AI fag
Even a dog's opinion is worth more

We’re all just shitposting. This whole board is shitposts

>>59568247
Real hobbyists are people who translate or make art, games, music etc.
You're just a pleb on 4chan with zero power or influence to gatekeep anyone.

>>59574141
I never lied on this board and I hope holos who have hidden sons learn the pain of a mother losing their sons, if they have hidden husband I hope they get raped and the husband throws them out because they don't want used goods

>>59574208
>Real hobbyists are people who translate or make art, games, music etc.
Yeah, me

>>59574269
I require you to put a nail between your toes and kick a wall repeatedly

>>59568041
thesis
>>59574269
evidence

>>59574269
You’re so silly anon me too
*wink*

>>59569867
>Because we didn't gatekeep hard enough and yet another fandom has fallen victim to ironic weeb westoids.
Anon most of the vtubers in HoloEN are ironic weebs that consider Japanese culture to be misogynistic and sexist. They aren't going to say that since management would be furious but it's not only the fans that want Hololive to be more western.

>>59570725
hardcore idol fans weren't unicucks. that's an invention of holofags.
>>59571376
lol no

>>59574669
weird fanfic

>>59567975
vtubers are my property
/thread

>>59569099
/v/ is unironically worse than reddit now.
western developers got so brainfucked by gamergate that they now have raids on /v/ 24/7.

>>59574064
>adopted hololive early
>adopted AI early
according to the innovation life cycle, early adopters are the most important customers.
I think my opinion is, in fact, a lot more important than yours.
it's the laggard opinions that always ruin the hobby and make everyone else run away from it.

>>59574669
Only a few of them are like this.
Kronii, Ame, Mori, Fauna, Ina and maybe a few more.

>>59574669
>"western" means "talks to a man on stream"

>>59567975
When they started selling wedding rings as merch

>>59574905
Also:
>free to have a boyfriend

>>59574934
actual retard

>>59574669
>ironic weebs
>consider Japanese culture to be misogynistic and sexist
uuhhh.... dude. I don't think you know what an ironic weeb is.

>>59574269
I sincerely hope you get anally raped within the near future and coped hard enough to think you enjoy the experience

>>59574934
No homobeggar can justify that kek

>>59575014
English please

>>59574953
???

>>59568247
The bottom portion of that image has just entered this thread

>>59567975
I've never seen a single good post with a Fuyuki pic

>>59575280
>Fuyuki

>>59574269
If they had the guts to say it in public I won't mind but we all know why they don't, if they have those behind the scenes they're awful people who don't mind making fool of thousands of people

>>59575383
please get an actual girlfriend and stop putting your idiotic rambling on my screen

>>59575481
Sorry, not interested in 3D women, all gold diggers, unfortunately I'm rich and there's always some whores trying to approach me even though no one got near me when I was poor

>>59575672
wait till you find out that theres a real girl behind shion's model

>>59575705
I never watched Shion outside of clips, she's a whore too that got caught playing with guys off stream just like Laplus, I just find her grin funny

>>59576017
>I never watched Shion outside of clips
yeah, we know
you should get the fuck off this board and never associate yourself with this hobby again you porn-addicted brown-skinned loser

>>59576017
It never ceases to amaze me how fucking proud of themselves people like you sound when they say shit like this.
Might as well post gigachad.jpeg to go along with it.

>>59576117
>>59576274
Shion just isn't the worst nikisei member because the lazy oni and the biggest whore in the company(Choco)are on the same gen, Aqua and Subaru at least are some of the best members to balance the others trash members

>>59572484
I never said idol culture is bad, retard. Keep up.

>>59567975
I have the hots for Marzia (my pewdickpee goes way hard)

>>59579551
kej

>>59568041
/thread

Be careful about taking things you read on this board too seriously.

>>59572480
>girlfriend energy
>they treat me like his boyfriend
>his boyfriend

>Enters fanbase that revolves around pretending to be an anime character on stream
>Becomes a fan in 2021 because of "how real" they are
>Hates Gachikoi
>Hates the term "Oshi"
>Basically hates Japan and anime
>Will call you ken-sama
>"Unfortunately Idol Culture is a thing"
>Tells people repeatedly that vtubers aren't your friends
>Vtubers are for entertainment and nothing else
>You will be told to touch grass if you think otherwise
>PARASOCIAL FUCKS
I really wish I could go back to 2017. The old guard tried to warn people this would happen if they didn't gatekeep but no one listened.

>Nerds VS Jocks 2: Electric Boogaloo
I love this plotline and 4chan for providing a daily dose while Cover plays both sides like a fiddle.

>>59567975
we want to enjoy that without male ENVtubers and their retarded fanbase shitting it up

>my oshi should be a man-hating dyke that never talks to males
>BUT she should also want to date me and be my girlfriend
Getting a little contradictory aren't we

>>59568041
fpbp

>>59567975
This sounds like cuck cope.
If your oshi interacts with men she's a whore and you're a cuck.

>>59567975
>now
tourist
>>59568041
homobeggar

>>59569867
Correct.
Take this as a lesson to always gatekeep and don't let commercialization take too strong of a root either because that's also a big path to your new hobby becoming a souless corpo husk and becoming inundating by normies too.

>>59568054
cute ame

>>59567975
>Why is it now considered a hot take that you shouldn't see chuubas as your virtual girlfriends?
that's not a hot take, that's just how it is, no random person online who you will never meet is your girlfriend lol
>entertainment, not ERP...
this
>>59568247
>anon thinks his made up rules have any real meaning whatsoever
holy retard now that's a knee slapper
>>59568286
holy fuck that's sad, i wanted to make a joke here but i think you have a rough time as is, i'm sorry bro

>>59568041
I do wish this shithole was better regulated

>>59580487
Who are you quoting retard

>>59580487
>retarded subhumans actually think like this
don't know if funny or sad desu

>>59567975
Always has been, it's schizo behavior that has been portrayed time and time again as a terrible thing to do in media for decades, don't pretend it never was

>>59586021
You're american, right?

>>59586267
Nope, it's also seen that way south of the border.

>>59570343
speak for yourself.
I am in no way shape or form in love with miko, she is not my oshi (who i am in love with but besides the point), i don't even find her a little hot. But I watch every stream and send sc because I find her genuinely entertaining and hilarious. I come by the watchalongs because I'm curious about her reactions to western comedy slop. She is just a very interesting person that people want to watch and haven't stopped watching.
Same goes for other chuubas like Ange whose whole schtick is she's hunting cock, yet still has a long-time fanbase in JP thanks to her exceptional charisma and great banter with her chat.

>>59570343
spoken like a true retard lol
of course i watch some chuubas for a few weeks and then drop them if i think the vibe is kinda off, but there are a selected few i watch for years and still keep watching because they're just really great entertainment, yet i never fell into the metal retardation of the delusion some random person online is my girlfriend lol

This thread gives me hope that not everyone watching vtubers is a mentally ill simp seeking validation from roasties pretending to be anime girls

>>59567975

>>59570343
>watch one year at most
>get bored in months
anon, don't you think this may be a problem with the chuuba themselves and not the viewer?
also what makes a vtuber different from a normal streamer? people follow asmongold's ugly ass mug for YEARS. are these viewers in love with him? of course not. it's because they find him entertaining. same for people whose oshis they watch for entertainment. they're there because they like that chuuba's specific niche. and yeah, sometimes it IS GFE. And sometimes it's just because that chuuba is funny, and simply doesn't stop being funny.

>>59575306
>kabaya

>>59567975
My harem

>>59586386
>>59586694
>>59586694
I feel disgusted knowing I share the same board with people this illiterate, imagine thinking vtubing is entertaining when instead you can watch the hundreds of classic movies, read thousands of book masterpieces and several others meaningful media out there

>>59587726
why are you here?
parasocial with an imageboard?

>>59567975
if i wanted to pretend to have a girlfriend, i have other outlets for that. why even bother with a real girl pretending to be anime when you can have an actual waifu where the only chance of being "cucked" would be if the creator of the series says fuck you in particular.

>>59587053
You're right
They admit to giving women hundreds of dollars for free for zero reason
They wouldn't do it to an equally entertaining man
The reason for that, is because they want to fuck women, and do not want to fuck men
They lose just as much as simps do but they also defend their losses as good because they denies their dick
They will pretend to be sex havers in spite of being virgins, btw. actual polls have backed up that 80% of this board are virgins, even in threads like /lig/ where they "love whores"

>>59567975

>>59589664
NTA but this is the only board I use and that used to be true for /jp/ before this board existed
I use this place as an outlet for my obsession because being romantically obsessed with somebody is a meaningful state of being, whereas prioritizing yourself while simultaneously being cucked is the default state of man and therefore has no meaningfulness

>>59587169
anon...
people who actually watch streamers for that long are not normal
there are also people who will donate thousands of dollars to male streamers while bring broke, which is why anybody normal thinks poorly of people who do that

>>59585319
>>59585539
Why are cucks so defensive?

>us trans are the real hololive fans!
>we should have gatekept sometime we didn't even watch!
Bizzaro world

>>59571723
>idols are not like that anymore
this post is funny because it clearly believes in something that is objectively false and is disproven through cursory reps
dating bans are still in place and one was only overruled in a single district and challenges most previously established precedent, there was a case that same year that ruled otherwise and upheld contractual legality of dating bans

>>59587537
Hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha . Bunch of normalfaggots beta male numale neckbeards s,oyboys cum eating cuckolds coomers.

>>59590897
I just watch for entertainment man but keep projecting

>>59593185
did you have a stroke anon..?

>>59591651
Sister please be more inclusive! Think of milord Shiori!

>>59593239
This is why you predominantly watch and donate to women?
surely you donate to men as much as you do to women too then, right

>>59594616
I donate to my favorite guy streamers every now and then to. All together it’s pretty much same amount

>>59595007
Stop throwing away your parents money

>>59595050
It’s your moms actually. she pays me for my “services”

>>59568247
>Jan 9 2021
Damn,IIRC this was the say the bord opened, its funny seeing posts this meta. Even the more extreme meta post below was made 2 months later.

Goes to show how nothings really changed at all, its just not all contained in a /jp/ general or 2 anymore

>>59587726
Maybe if (You) weren't so retarded you'd know how to make full use of your time. The amount of film, games, VNs and anime I've consumed number in the thousands. Setting aside just 2 hours everyday to watch anime/read a VN/play a long JRPG is enough for me to have played through every popular release this year. I just got done on a 3rd playthrough of Lies of P and guess what? I still had time to do work AND watch every Advent POV stream yesterday.
Stop sleeping 10 hours a day and make better use of your time, faggot

>>59591192
Missing the fucking point, anon. I was arguing that people do legitimately watch and SC chuubas purely for entertainment. And no fucking duh, like with literally ANY hobby, you don't overspend to the point of bankruptcy. Don't spend too much on golf clubs, or hiking gear, or car accessories, or mahogany furniture, or, yeah, akasupa. A 4 year old can learn this.
also
>not normal
Since when should I care about what normalfags thought about me?

>>59599286
I sleep 8 and half a hour since I'm not a subhuman and I don't need to work since I'm fairly rich, but just the fact you're playing a mediocre game 3 times says it all to me

>>59571829
t. actual schizo

>>59570343
speak for yourself idiot. i watch holo for 3 years just under a year than you and the only complaint i have is i get to watch them with mentally ill idiots like you

>>59567975
All because the amount of Mohammads from SEA that hold that views and post here, is an incentive for the rest of the deranged schizos.

>>59567975
go back

>>59567975
These girls are whatever you want them to be dont let anyone else dictate that for you

>>59570343
>for you to be a long time vtuber fan you need to be at least a bit parasocial
It doesn't mean you go apeshit about male interaction thinking she's your girlfriend, you actual cuck

>I watch for singing, dancing and entertainment, not ERP...

The thing is that they just kinda suck at that without the parasocial stuff to knit everything in a nice bow.

There is no vtuber who I would consider superior to any stand alone singer. If she is an amazing singer, she can make it alone with that without needing to livestream playing minecraft.

Likewise with dancing, only like 5% of their content is dancing, only a few months in special streams, and they are not as good as pro dance youtubers who put out dance videos often or mmd animations. None of them have good motion capture stuff at their house so you can get more dancing just from those vrchat dancers from twitch.

What about gameplay? There are some vtubers with good skills, but no one who actually makes it to the top. Like I liked watching Selen but in terms of pure skill she still gets mogged by a lot of pros.

Saying you don't care about the interaction and parasocial stuff first is a very poor cope anon...

>>59627221
>The thing is that they just kinda suck at that

>>59627561
Yeah, suisei is good. There are also plenty of singers who made numbers without having to use an avatar gimmick, suisei didn't get numbers anyways until she managed to get the holo promo.

But again, if she didn't stream, if she didn't interact with the other girls, could have she made it on her skill alone?

>>59628177
>There are also plenty of singers who made numbers without having to use an avatar gimmick
What numbers do you have? What music do you produce?
Exactly.
She's infinitely more successful than you could ever be.

>>59567975
Every chuuba is my girlfriend. If I watch them they automatically become my girlfriend unless I explicitly state otherwise to myself.

>>59627221
>There is no vtuber who I would consider superior to any stand alone singer. If she is an amazing singer, she can make it alone with that without needing to livestream playing minecraft.

That makes zero sense whatsoever, it's wildly naïve.
Are those Chinese kids that win young classical musician awards the top selling commercial artists? They are the most talented, right?
Are Billie Eilish or Dua Lipe or whoever (sorry I don't have much frame of reference for contemporary commercial music), in the position they are, because because they are the most talented vocalists?

No, because that is fucking irrelevant.

It's like you are half-way to actually understanding Vtubing and the idol journey, and yet so far away.

>>59628177
>There are also plenty of singers who made numbers without having to use an avatar gimmick

And about 6 billion who didn't...

>>59587726
>imagine thinking vtubing is entertaining
it literally is retard-kun
if you don't think vtubers entertaining then (you) watch the wrong chuubas, not my problem you're retarded
>>59591302
>cucks
i don't think you know what that word means kid, because based on the context and how you used it it doesn't make sense at all. you should stop parroting random buzzwords you read /here/ that doesn't make you look like a grown up, just stupid

Is the funny robot place really that dead for us to have threads like this

>>59570150
>semi-sane people left on this board
Being on this board already means you aren't sane by any standards.

GFE VTuber.

>>59585184
It’s already heavily censored. If you say the wrong things about Cali or kiara then a jannie will give you a quick vacation within 30 minutes. Any more regulation and it will look like Reddit so no

>>59568041
Holy based
Fbpb

Kill yourself, that's my hot take. Fuck this board is so bad. All normalfags and redditors go the fuck back and stop trying to moralize people. I'll call her my girlfriend if I want and if she has a real bf them I'll call her a skank and move on to the next one. Stop trying to tell me how to live my life.

>>59569165
>bot behavior
I mean this emphatically: fuck off back to twitter and stay there. Never post again. Your posts are trash and actively make this board worse. Bot means a specific thing, it doesn't mean whatever retarded thing you twitterfags think. Stop shitting up everything you touch with your social failure and pretense at being successful, you worthless loser.

>>59634061
He's a retarded failed normalfag who wants people to give money to e-whores and be grateful for a fat chick larping as Hatsune Miku to give you the time of day. He is too mindfucked to realize he is the bottom of the social totem pole.

>redditors still losing their minds over normal 4chan behavior
You can go back and stay back and there will be no more problems.

>>59569923
>Because, as is the case with most groups, the loudest voices are often those of psychopaths and narcissists who throw tantrums when they don't get their way

you mean like the male collab beggars that never shut up and keep trying to convince people they have the moral highground when they dont care about the vtubers and just wants to see their audiences get upset?

This is all fucking bullshit that keeps getting parrotted by EOP clip watchers who arent invested. none of this shit is a problem if you watch japanese vtubers. its just western shitheads appropriating themselves the hobby and fucking it up and pretend to make it better, when they just end up with a bunch of half-assed "vtubers" who give no effort in what they do and constantly disrespect their audience. oh wait, i believe all you sad fucks consider that "based".

>>59638740
Beep boop. Go do your push ups, scrawny.

>>59638702
you are gonna have a aneurysm with this amount of seething

It's not, that's just the homobeggar position, it's only semi-logical and largely a platform of convenience. Kind of like "Hillary Clinton is a good person", nobody's ever disputing she's smart you'll notice, but "good"? That will dematerialize the instant it's no longer a political position from it's sheer tasteless irrationality not even being the actual likable thing.

>girl is cute on the internet for money
>NOW DON'T GET THE WRONG IDEA YOU

it's just silly, it's like actual gaslighting level silly

>>59640867
If Vtubers are whores then the people who bitch about male collabs are the same guys that dismember them and throw their body parts in the dumpster. The fantasy isn't enough for you degenerate fags. You need to control them, and you need to force your gross fetishes on everyone else. The irony of it all is your appeal to Morality or "Idol Culture". What gives you the right to demand virginal purity from these girls when you masturbate using Korone plushies? If Vtubing is little more than prostitution, then why should you be upset that the girls fuck other guys?
Clearly, you just want to abuse a female because that's really what gets you off. Not GFE or anything else. You want to break a cheating cunt's neck. You get hard when you see her crying, begging you to stop and you cum when the light goes from her eyes. You're a monster, and one day someone is going to put you down.

>>59585184
>>59638383
Post ID and flags would be a good start

>>59568255
>What do you think a girlfriend is? A whore that you only have sex with?
Anon, please consider the people who made up this board ...

>>59638740
I would like to put voice to what you mean: He has a very specific image in his head that he's living out and actively promoting to others that itself has a political motivation. His interest isn't in the girls, but in getting white males to be seen as, how did he put it, a store screamer? That specific image let me into his vision, which you're reacting to but can't describe. That's what's "bot like", it seems robotic because he's here to promote the conclusion he should be here to discover. See, it's already been "discovered" by him that I'm a particular way and he just has to go about proving it. In a way he's not even posting, he's by himself.

It is on you but only because his weakness is this: you don't have to engage this person or live in his warped reality. Things are already over for the false summoner, he's forgotten he's not the real thing.

>>59641627
Although "he" might be questionable given this clear display of his phylactery, the obsession is obviously for rape. I didn't even mention this but they're so charged up from the long thread that his engine's red hot because this is the real motivator: men are rapists and we need to do what we can to destroy their joy and tear them down. That's why we're really here, huh sis? Straight white men are awful fucking rapists and you've gotta stick it to em, especially since you used to be one huh? We know who you people are and where you came from, which is here. You're the half of us that went to nice schools whereupon you were indoctrinated. You are highly visible in infra-red, friend.

>>59628243
You can go to Youtube right now and if you know how to search I guarantee to you that you'll find a better singer than Suisei in 5 minutes but he/she has less than 1k views in their songs

>>59642318
>you don't have to engage this person or live in his warped reality. Things are already over for the false summoner, he's forgotten he's not the real thing.
Anon failed normalfags do that knowingly, they openly admit to a completely baseless world view with no rational basis and if ever pressed will often quite readily admit that their beliefs are absolute nonsense and then act as if it's fine for their beliefs to be baseless and that you're the one who is wrong for claiming otherwise

>>59638702
Yeah, this. I’m so fucking tired of normies.

>>59642532
Go ahead and share some examples anon.

>>59567975

because normie NPC tourists came in preaching twitternigger propaganda and thought they owned this place, without understanding that every vtuber is factually (You)r girlfriend.

>>59579854
This, the funniest thing is that the people with this mindset of owning those parasocial fuck and gachikoi have the lowest fanbase, sc, membership, everthing. It's like some sort of cope.

>>59642673
>He thinks there isn't unknown artists better than Suisei
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHSHAHAHAHAHA
You can find true classical genius struggling to get 2k in their piece, meanwhile Suisei doesn't even know how to read a score, but feel free to think she's the best singer in the world kek

>>59587726
>you can watch the hundreds of classic movies, read thousands of book masterpieces and several others meaningful media out there
But I already do all of that, and switch to vtubers when I'm not in the mood for any of them?

>>59643101
I wasn't disagreeing with you ya mouthbreathing retard, I wanted music recs.

>>59643101
Anon, he asked you for recommendations, but instead you proceeded to put words into his mouth just so you could feel superior to a random anon on an anonymous Mongolian basketweaving forum for a short while. This speaks poorly of your character, but more importantly, hinders the visibility of your favourites.

>>59643226
Who the fuck will give recommendation in this shit eating site, it's like inviting retards to your house

>>59567975
Virtual Youtubers are literally my girlfriend

>>59579854
It's not a difficult concept. Anyone with a brain in any era knows trends and things get mainstream, they dont get gatekept and then they die because new people that dont care about it infest it and change it into something unrecognizable and then it dies.

>>59579854

>>59641627
We came from persecuting whores to worshipping whores. I hope our ancestors forgive these mindless simps, for they do not know what they are doing.

>This entire thread
Okay, okay. Very good LARP. You almost made me believe that you're all normalfags.

>>59579805
How am I supposed to say it, the "virtual parasocial fake girlfriend"?, I prefer to masturbate during that time

>>59644141
it's all cocos fault, holoen brought in an ungodly amount of retarded subhumans who claim to be the new """core audience""" now without even knowing what vtubing was all about in the first place, truly sad

>>59640867

>Hillary
>smart

>>59568041
Jesus Christ I never knew it but latter is the perfect description of me.

>>59641627
I ain't reading all that.

>>59644141
>negative change
>4 cucks king are all dead
>hololive thriving

>>59643674

>>59638853
t.

>>59644863
You don't have to be a normalfag to enjoy hololive in a healthy way

>>59643101
I accept your defeat

>>59646199
I like Suisei retard, I'm just not so unaware of the world like you, you don't have idea of how many talented people never shine, principally now that if you put 100k in Google ads everyone will see your face and several will click in your music even if you're dog shit

>>59646391
>you don't have idea of how many talented people never shine
yeah, Suisei

Why is there always a random overly zealous hoshiyomi shilling suisei in catalog threads
she's 1 dude she isn't even relevant to the topic

>>59646165
>healthy
normalfag dogwhistle

>>59646720
seek help

>>59646748
>another normalfag dogwhistle
bot generated reply quality

>>59646859
have sex
seek help
who hurt you
improve yourself
incel
chud
healthy
L+ratio+parsocial fucks

>>59646923
Imagine someone making a dictionary of a normalfag vocabulary, it would have 1 page and a half

Not your wife. Not your girlfriend. Not even your friend.
They are entertainers that make silly cute noises and play games.
/thread

>>59646923
there's a lot to unpack here

>>59647785
oh my sneed summer chuck
yikes
no, just no

>>59567975
I like when Botan laughs and shoots people.

>>59647494
>Not your wife
wrong
>Not your girlfriend
wrong
>Not even your friend
everybody is my friend, including you, your consent is unnecessary
>They are entertainers
There is no vtuber who is entertaining and I have watched them all
>silly
None of them are silly
>cute
being cute is GFE
>play games
wrong, they're professionally terrible at games, which is different

>>59647920
BASED

>>59647494
Yeah and?
I can still enjoy fantasy of all of it and there's nothing wrong with any of it. You're the same kind of annoying prick that yells to kids that Santa is not real and pisses off wrestling fans by saying that it's all pretended. With sincere fucking regards - WE FUCKING KNOW IT'S NOT REAL AND DON'T CARE.

>>59567975
I like my oshi because she's a hard worker. She's a sleepless freelancer hag but still tries to stream half asleep because she enjoys it. I don't feel attracted to her so much as I just root for her to succeed in at least one area of her life.

>>59571753

>>59572325
>Cover literally introduced lately new branch that will be focused on music and idol activities.
>Interacts with males on day 1, and even worse, it's Holostar, which according to to /vt/, means they are no longer idols
A-Anon?

>>59576645
Idol culture IS bad. Look at the OP pist for example.

>>59643932
No they are not

>>59652423
If only Yagoo had been more strict and only hired pure women.

>>59638978
I've seen 100x more posts complaining about homobeggars than actual homobeggars
I'm starting to think you people are just deranged

>>59568041
Yeah, this about sums up the entire existence of this board.

Vtubers were a mistake.

>I just watch them for entertainment bro, I just want to go on 4chan and show everyone how mature I am because I only watch them for entertainment and I'm not like those other losers who watch vtubers, because I'm better than that okay

>>59654145
mindbroken

>>59654145
I'm sorry you are like this anon, i hope you improve yourself

>>59567975
>>59568041
This honestly needs to be a pinned post. Glad that there are at least some people in /vt/ that still have the capability to reason.

>>59574340
literally me

>>59567975
People hate when you get preachy and self-righteous about it. Do whatever you want, but don't lecture me for how I enjoy things.

>>59643093
And that's the thing. The Gachikoi and "parasocial fucks" are the ones paying the most money. Rushia/Nazuna/Miguel Gato got the most money for a reason. Ignoring her most recent yabs of course
Drive those people away and you actively kill off your revenue. Hololive hasn't reached that point but it got dangerously close when Omega was there.

>>59656486
Really, I wonder who makes the most in merch

>>59644044
I witnessed it happen to Guilty Gear. I got into the series with Xrd and fell in love with it. But it was still fairly niche. The community was great and everyone was helpful. Even when you lost matches, the game felt so rewarding
Then Strive happened. It was made easier and characters' motivations and personalities were twisted and morphed. The new fanbase was garbage and they shat up everything.
Then Bridget happened and that was when I knew it was dead. You now have people with Bridget profile pictures that have never even played the game. Now the game has significantly less players. All those new fans they desperately wanted aren't there anymore, and it's a shell of what it used to be.
That's exactly what happens when you don't gatekeep.

>>59568286
Wait, guys feel this too?

>>59656746
>Comparing merch sales to superchats

Nobody cares. The free market decides what the right way to view vtubing is, not morals or whiners.

>>59657005
yeah, merch is infinitely more money

>>59569416
He is right. Anyone who actually goes outside can tell you real normalfags don't know shit about internet, or its local e-celebs like mr beast or pewdiepie.
And by normalfags I don't mean normie takes on twitter, I mean actual people working irl jobs.
And obviously I don't mean children, those know internet pretty well regardless.

>>59656841
I do wonder, how could have actually gatekept the trannies out? What could you do in addition?

>>59657595
I honestly didn't care about that, It was more about keeping the people that don't play fighting games out more than anything. People were demanding it to be easier.
The mechanics were dumbed down and matches basically end faster than a sneezing fit and they were changing character motivations for the fuck of it. I didn't care about anything else, just leave it the fuck alone and improve with the foundations that you had.

>>59567975
You are an unironic cuckold.