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>>59240706It worked for Idol-ACK!
For all the big talk in these threads sometimes, you're al pretty cock-shy when it comes to making a fucking OP
GRIM
>>59240690>what's the point of having a collab if you can't go all out and have funThat is a (You) problem, ENfag.
>>59241027Too big
>>59241081Because a lot of SEA phoneposters are blocked from making threads, as it should be.
/#/ is reclining...
>>59241058She didnt have 1M subs tho
>>59241058kek, at the time the thread was going crazy about how stupid Holo was for missing this supposedly Gura-level girl. Never trust /#/
>Pekora make fun of botan cryingFUCKING BASED
>>59241081the point is to filter adhd addled retards so they fuck off somewhere
>>59241135You are either a filthy mod or a filthy SEA.
>>59241081SEAfriends are rangebanned from posting pic
>>59241081I couldn't be bothered. The average IQ is far too low right now.
Uhh… looks like Mumei’s 3d vod views will never pass Mori, let alone IRyS and Ina.
>>59241171She has a weird fetish
>dies from peak fiction
Advent debut weeks: overlapped by Gura and some councils, mostly 4view streams, in some bad days>muh brutal overlap, sabotageReGloss debut weeks: overlapped by 2-3 freaking first armies on daily basis; Ayame, Marine, Aqua coming back; Subaru, Koyori streaming more >business as usualI guess you knew subconsciously Advent weren't up for it
>>59241171>It was just a friendly tournament bro
>>59241171>>59241202
>>59241185Nah.
>>59241235>business as usual3/5ths of the branch is getting numbers that Advent is getting RIGHT NOW, on week TWO? THREE?
>>59241200>most obvious hooman falseflagging grudgeposts
>>59241244Then why wasn't she cute when Marine beat her to 1m?
>>59241205kek
[Bad News]The rock cunny is no longer on air
>>59241235Shut the fuck up if you're going to keep ignoring Ririka and Ao existing.
Mumei Queen ? Kek holofags This is your true queen
AQUA PLAT 2
Honestly, is a floor more important than a ceiling when it comes to numbers? Girls like Ina can draw for hours without saying a single word on stream and still be in the cripple tally all the time, while some other girls like Bae can bring in more tourists when a good occasion is given, but have to do twice the effort to get a worse average viewership. Honestly I'm pretty convinced that the most important is to have a good floor at this point.
>>59241360vtuber equivalent of deliberately choosing to drink from the murky mud river behind the city dump
>>59241360Tell me one thing she did that was fun on stream in the last five daysNot her number, not the stream game, tell me specific things she did you enjoyed
How do you guys endlessly run through the same timeloops over and over and over again? What is wrong with you and your brains?
>>59241235All we can say is that council didn't do as well as expected>debut during COVID>still lost to both Advent and Regloss on thier first month
>>59241408Ceiling is for bursting, Floor is for sustainability, this is known
>>59241244>>59241282
Aqua held 30k+ for over 6 hours Sugoi...
>>59241360
>>59241360Buy an ad
>>59241414We love retards here
>>59241360Why can't this whore get sick instead of Henya? Oh right, because she's a lying fake cripple whore.
Lol I doubt it will be more gentle… sadistic Fuwawa
>>59241200Yeah I remember IRyS had over 400k views after just one day. Mumei is definitely botted.
Akutan is actually ranking up faster than I thought she would given she's been in PreMas lobbies since placement. I'm starting to actually believe
>>59241452Apexniggers are mentally ill
>>59241439Me too peko...me too
>>59241476Wish i was Mococo
>>59241439Is she happiest when she cries?
>>59241205funnily enough, Mumei was a Senz-clone so the baton pass is actually appropriate
Okay I just saw the clip of Botan crying. Jesus I thought she just teared up a bit but that was a full blown breakdown while sobbing like a kid. Genuinely unnerving.Is this the power or eceleb collab and the future Cover wants with that HLZNTL crap?
>>59241027HOT NEWS FROM NENE'S MEMBERSHIPSHE HAS TALKED ABOUT ITMANAGEMENT COULD NOT STOP HERSHE HAS IN FACT TALKED ABOUTTHE FACT PEKORA OWNS A FUCKING MONKEYSTEALTH SUSPENSION INCOMING?
>>59241503Were nousagis mentally ill for watching Pekora's 24 hours stream?
Why are HoloJP starting to overlap EN primetime so much now?
>>59241205>Gura, who was the top from EN's golden age, not being Sukuna>Comparing a debuffed "showcase" to someone losing at their full powerDumb meme
>>59241550It's so bijouver
>>59241261What a wasted opportunity
>>59241538Yes
>>59241551That was an event, this is just Apex Stream #57
>>59241550her real name is Suzumomo Enenmi btw
>>59241261Stop pointing this out, cuckbeat.
>>59241538
>>59241538link?
>>59241439>>59241506You guys ever wonder why you like to see girls cry? For me I think it's because it reminds me of my mother crying after yelling at me for hours. It was the signal of >yes...I've finally broken her spirit and she'll finally shut the fuck upEver since I got used to my bitch mother pulling out the waterworks it's been extremely gratifying to watch women cry
>>59241262>>59241344My argument is that Gura is NOT to be blamed. If you blame Gura for overlapping then the same must be done to absent JPs who came back right on this occasion like Suisei, Marine or Ayame.It was tiring seeing so much Gura seething over some overlaps that didn't have such high numbers anyway.
>>59241262>>59241344No but seriously, that was a cavernous 20k CCV gap immediately following debut. Neal did another funny on those three, and Kanade is only barely clawing her way out of it because Nameless Monster is the best debut cover of the lot.
>>59241205
>>59241553Yen is decliningThe USD is guaranteed good incomeexpect a new wave of EOP pandering
>>59241538Girls trying putting their all in to the point of tears is endearing as fuck. It's why Towa in CR cup and Aqua etc in the mario kart tourneys are popular.
>>59241625>it's been extremely gratifying to watch women cryMost sane /#/ poster.
>>59241625that sounds like you fuck your mom anon
>>59241538I hope we get to see gura sobbing like that too one day, would make me erect
>>59241631Then I have no quarrel with you, that's fair
>>59241631That was not an invitation for a reply.
>>59241262JPfags pretend that ReGloss is just Raden and Hajime. If Hajime stops spamming buff content they'll pretend it's just Raden.
>>59241631JP box is huge, EN box is 1/5 of that
>>59237032getting on the front page doesn't require "connections". you just have to be a partner and ask your partner manager
>>59241685Hate, yes. Fuck, no. Hatefuck, gross dude
>>59241589I mean, it's a pesudo-event. Solo master challenge, especially this season, is a proper story arc to cheer for.
>>59241688Do you think she has that capacity?
this Apex graph feels more Apex graphy than normal, some of these peaks and vallies are 10k apart
>>59241081what do you mean big talk
>>59241744Maybe one day you will stop crying. Alas, not this day.
>>59241476Mococo needs a Mococo motivation speechShe can do it!!!!
>>59241744I dunno, people still have hope that she would one day "course correct" and return to streaming so the chance is still there
>>59241638>Neal specifically targeting three girls just... becauseYou're as bad as the ENfags blaming cull for everything.
>>59241754I watched it all but I can't remember 100%, pretty sure you'll find those huge peaks are where she was in final ring and came 2nd/3rd or got champion. She had a lot of boring 10th places this stream
>>59241797I mean it sort of happened for Aqua but what's Gura's equivalent of becoming an Apex junkie?
>>59241785Until she finishes Atlantis, my tears will never end.
>>59241550WTFThis wasn't a joke, Pekora really did tell Nene things that can get her in all of FBI's most watched and in the hitlist of multiple criminal organizations.
>>59241754that's why you spend a little extra to get the more stable bots
>>59239347CoC TTRPG collabs are typically oneshots
>>59241538This is why everyone loves watching apex tournaments (proper ones with scrims, I mean). Seeing the emotional breakdowns at the end, win or lose, make it all worth it.
>>59241842Short spams and react contents.
>>59241879Don't forget the fear when the stalking peaks!
>>59241550Slavery is a crime! Which one of our brothers from across the pond did Pekora take as her pet?
Who the fuck cares that Pekora has a monkey, stop forcing this meme and just move on with your life
>>59241767Cant wait for the collab
moom today
>Saku>the nintendo girl>needed 10 hours to get 3000 point in Suika gameWeak. Even lost to Fuwa in terms of ccv.
>>59241638Council never recovered from the culling. Hopefully at least Raden and Hajime can pull through. I mean, maybe having the JPbox to fall back on is a better life vest than anything Council had.
>>59241842I wanted to say Mario Kart but given how she didn't even bother to stream her pov.. I can't think of anything she was truly passionate for and given 120% of her effort in
>>59241631heh the overlapping seethe broke containment too, even though all of myth and council also overlapped. I will never understand ENfags' logic
>>59241967She basically retired at this point m8, stop hoping for something else.
>>59241879fucking fps losers
>>59241550The final yab...
>Korone starting to overlap EN primetimeMy prediction is coming true, get fucked EN.
>>59241647>>59241205
Dogs get killed by overlap or just regular recline of a series?
>>59241027TOO FUCKING BIG.
>>59241993Show this great containment break.
>>59241917Donald Trump and Joe Biden, very little stands between her and the nuclear launch codes
>starts at 11.5k>currently at 18k>halfway there to 24k (Master)Can she do it?Season ends at the first week of NovemberShe might also go for solo pred (~50k) if she has sufficient remaining time by the time she gets to 24k
>>59241844You know, if I am a shitposter terminally /here/ I would think Pekora is the most evil being everBut if I am a fan who only hear about Pekora from other Holos she sound like a nice quiet person who never bother anyone, and also talk about weird things with themI have never seen such contrast in image from a Holo before
>>59242051>bae>god of dancing
>>59241767>Average holoanti
>>59241806People thought CCVID was cope until it affected everyone. There's the indisputable proof that Neal repeatedly dumpstered the whole gen's sub count, why is it weird that even more algo dumbfuckery happened? Personally I think it's associated with the MiComet watchalong vs. OkaKoro, because that's the only thing tying those three together.
>>59241764lots of bragadocious shitposters that suddenly get all cutesy and go "well I don't wanna post in case someone else posts an OP" when in between threads
>>59242101solo pred is 50k now, but it won't be by the time she gets closerealistically it isn't possible at this stage in the season
>>59242108If you are forming opinions about streamers and rivers on /#/ you already lost.
>>59242051sub 50k
>>59241631Nobody would be blaming her if she streamed regularly during that timeslot. She barely streamed anything from October 2022 to July 2023. Then she started spamming buff games and collabs (Mumei) she never did 1-2 weeks prior to advent debut, overlapped them almost every day for 2 weeks then. Everyone knew she was going to stream something the following day. Then disappeared again once the debut buff period was over,came back for the anniversary, Cover and costume then disappeared again. Her intentions where clear: stopping chumbuds from jumping ships and keeping that stream of membership money flowing into her accountNobody would be surprised if she were to take another 3 month break and only come back next year
>>59242177You really need to kill yourself.
So the Nerissa and Onigiri thing just happened while I was sleeping did anything noteworthy happen or was it a whole lot of nothing and people were shitposting/false flagging for no reason?
>>59242085Spoiler: bvtm tranny thinks his alt account is still relevant and counts as containment breaking
>>59241439based number rabbit
>>59241631This is such a stupid comparison to make, as if the markets are 1:1. The whole point of why people were upset is BECAUSE the market is so much different and so much more volatile in design that they didn’t want retards overlapping them right off the gate for no reason. You fail to understand that Japan’s entire scene is backed by the overwhelming acceptance of anime and media that’s widespread throughout the region. It’s become COMMONPLACE for vtubers to have complete representation in the Japanese market, with them being sponsored by the biggest companies in all of Japan and having an entire demographic go rabid for them, purchasing all their merch and consuming their content religiously. It’s a fucking standard there anon, so it doesn’t matter if people overlap because the fanbase for vtubers is so wide and vast and has extreme high tolerance that anyone can succeed in that field with how fans operate there. You can’t say the same for the English market. It’s not some easily achievable thing to succeed in. Fleshtubers dominate the world, vtubers are considered beyond cringe, fans of them even more cringe, you’re thougut of as the lowest of the low. The entire genre of vtubing has become absurdly niche and the idea of being a fan would already raise eyebrows. So yes, when you already have a smaller community that gets judged to start with, and you have your biggest vtubers overlap newbies who’re trying to breathe life into your branch and then fuck off the MOMENT their beginning week buffs fade, it’s pretty fucking annoying and downright bullshit.
W-what will be streamed on 28th???
Nerissa should get 3k tomorrow right?
>>59241522cope shart mumei's been on her channel longer than gura
>>59242085I can't bother searching my browsing history but I saw them on twitter and her YT streams' comments. But you can take that as a grain of salt since i don't have proof saved
>>59242204Expect her stealth suspension as she goes on break tomorrow, followed by termination in two weeks.
>>59242204the latter obviously
>>59242243I love it. Just absolute bullshit gets passed as truth.
>>59242205Cope chumbie
>>59242204Nerissa was confirmed to be a straightedge poster but nothing else reallytypical>Indie is so fucking scared of getting blacklisted they do absolutely nothingkind of event
>>59242205>non argumentSeethe
>>59241522they were both nyanners clones
>>59242177Yeah I am pretty sure that is the case, maybe. But you can't deny that without Gura the entire EN scene collapses. I can't wait to read all the copes, the seethe, and the deflection towards niji by certain schizos here once the latest average ccv graph is published.
>>59241688>Gura caring about anythingGood one anon
>>59242177that's a lot of seethe over someone you don't watch nigga
>>59242204Giri was holding back the whole collab so nothing would happen anyway
>>59242223>Fleshtubers dominate the world, vtubers are considered beyond cringe, fans of them even more cringe, you’re thougut of as the lowest of the low.this is a pretty fucking blatant overexaggeration
>>59242204As others are saying, she clearly held back from her usual levels to make sure she doesn't get blacklisted. Honestly I'm surprised she did another Holo collab so soon after the Magni debacle.
>>59241767Disgusting
>>59242223>>59242345HoloEN failed to make vtubers mainstream, that is on them. HoloJP contributed a lot to make vtuber mainstream in Japan.
>>59242295>>59242297What is there to argue? You've concocted an insane theory with a determined conclusion that you have zero evidence for, and then just running with it. There is no data. There are no numbers. It's just taken as scripture that apparently overlapping does anything, positive or negative, and then you've built an insane theory all around that. Again, kill yourself.
>>59242296>>59242341Hololive member feels like a noble from these Indie prespective
>>59242307>without Gura the entire EN scene collapsesGura isn't linked to the EN scene, honestlyThere's five boxes:>Indie Scene (Twitch/VShojo)>Indie Scene (Youtube)>NijiEN Scene>HoloEN Scene>Gura Scene
>>59242177kek so this is what a schizo in the wild looks like
>>59242400From what I understand:>her chat won a bet with her that they could make one tweet using her account>the person who won that bet immediately made her tweet "HEY @NERISSARAVENCROFT CAN WE COLLAB PLEASE">it somehow worked out
I'm sorry sisters but no amount of astroturfing will convince me that Advent was a flop. From a fan perspective HoloEN desperately needed some fresh blood to cover the massive amount of dead hours they had and work towards building a consistent box in the style of their JP senpai. And Advent is a great step in that direction.FWMC and Bijou are both great hires and a good choice for anyone that wants a consistent Hololive CGDCT experience. Shiori found her niche and has been working on building a strong core fanbase since day 1. Nerissa is obviously inexperienced which means she has a lot of potential to grow, her music is also performing pretty well so far.Numberwise? They are doing okay and helped reverse a bit the downwards trend of HoloEN who has been on an all time low for the past year and a half while cementing the branch as the strongest Vtuber group in the west.Them going viral and bringing a new golden age for western Vtubing would've been cool but extremely unlikely.
>>59242307Anon.....Chumbuds only fucking watch gura
>>59242345The average normalfag still thinks they're men with voice changers. And if they don't believe that, they will consider you a simp incel if not worse.
>>59242427I watch both holoEN and nijiEN, sometimes twitch indies. Not watching YT indie/small corpo anymore since Kawaii's sankisei "graduated".
>>59242228Probably collab or shill. The ARK streamer server is at the start of October so it's still too early for that.
>>59242296>>59242341>>59242400I fucking knew it was going to be another Kiara situation but it's pretty hilarious that Ollie seems to be the only Holo that everyone including indies doesn't even remotely treat as a legit Holomem.
>>59242177So you're thinking that Gura did this to a worse degree than some of the JPs?I mean I can see that if she also did the same for Council debuts.
>>59242307Not really. Gura right now is only getting the rarity buff like Ayame
>>59242496>the average normalfagThe average normalfag doesn't watch any streams by anyoneThe average normalfag is watching Football and only hears about streamers from the news when some fleshie goes schizo
>>59241625>I've finally broken her spiritImagine being such a faggot that you love to see your own mother cry. On this board I've seen many subhumans but I've rarely ever seen one as low as you are.
>>59242205>>59242310>>59242468>chumbud is so mad he started samefagging
>>59242177>Then she started spamming buff gamesRORU, RUMAO even. Imagine seething this hard and making up shit about someone you don't even watch.
>>59242307>Being this obsessed with ccv chartsWow look at this fucking loser holy shit LMAOOOAnyone who takes those charts seriously needs to off themselves. Here’s some food for thought for you anon:Pre-advent, the removal of Kiara alone would boost the ENTIRE BRANCH’S AVERAGE up by nearly 1k. Removing both Kiara and Mori DID increase it by 1k. That’s how much the average ccv can sway in holoEN on a chart and why no one should give a fuck. Advent all stream on top of eachother and do long SC readings. That’s a totally different world where pre advent you’d get 2 whole streams of EN for the entire day where one is either a Fauna stream or an unarchived karaoke. Awesome! HoloEN’s average was only being held up for that reason to start with. They didn’t scream so the only streams they’d do would be ones people tune into, 1-2 hours out of the day.
>>59242341>literally put a gun behind her headI pity this girl.
>>59242421Hololive are EN royalty
I miss my wife
>>59242228No chance of Council gold then
>>59242051who's Faufau?
>>59242177Anyone with brain will agree with you
every tournament has their upsets, it what makes the game and story more engaging just like aqua's return in apex or Wing's underdog gaming in TI2016, but..How much did capcom pay Botan to cry on stream and pretend that she's bad only to be better later on?
>>59242573>chumbud The better question is why are you pretending you aren't one? Just fuck off back to the general and cry there, faggot. What's the point of being ass hurt anywhere else?
>>59242345Leave /#/ for once anon
>>59242573You're a fucking retard who can't even do timing reps
>>59242580>average CCV doesn't count because if you remove a variable, the average changesholy shit this anon's a genius, truly no one knew that if you remove a low variable from an average data plot, the average output is increased! Wow... Such a genius...
>>59242512Why else? Again, no problem if she would stream maybe 2-3 times a week at that time slot, but she up and stopped for months at a time and just came back to overlap and bounce? She's averaging what, 2-4 streams a month at this point? But yes, this is totally her timeslot still when she comes around every 3 months or so
>>59242659eh.. OG 1st TI win is more memorable than Wings imo
>>59242508She lost the holobox ages ago, no one sees her as a proper holomem
>>59242580NTA but you are an idiot. It is not about the absolute value. It is about the trend. Removing 1 or 2 people from the graph does not change the trend at all. And yes removing Gura barely change the trend. The graph is good a comparing relative strength of a branch and we can constantly see HoloJP way above everyone else, untouchable by even holoEN, and holoEN in the middle low point, while everyone else except for event time would just stay at the bottom.
>>59242665The fact that I do leave /#/ is what lets me know that it's a blatant overexaggeration in the first placenormalfags don't give a shit about what you do if you keep to yourself. It's only that slice between hardcore hobbyists and actual normalfags that get all uppity about things like this. The kind that think they're a fan of something because they subscribe to that thing's subreddit.
Chumkeks please. Come back when your bitch actually stream
>>59242490Everyone likes to throw the word grim and flop around, they forgot the days before EN3. Days with just 1 or even 0 EN streams, that's actual fucking grim. EN3 is carrying the branch every day so hard they don't deserve any of the insults.
>>59241754Season 18 Apex is boring to watch outside of the last 2 circles because kills are worthless without placing top 10.
>>59242413>>59242427But have you considering these>Chumbuds don't watch other beside Gura>Chumbuds are responsible for EN scene being dead>Gura overlap hurt other cuz Chumbuds, who wouldn't watch others, wouldn't watch othersTotally logical you can't refute.I just don't care about other EN when Gura doesn't stream beside maybe Fauna, homo drama kill half of them for me and other are just boring
>>59242127Everyone knows that the subs got culled, but you're saying that specifically three girls are having their CCV targeted by YouTube. If I went and claimed that Advent is getting their CCV culled, for which I have as much proof as you do for these three girls, it'd be laughed at as an EN cope. Can't it just be accepted that the other two are more popular?
>>59242177>started spamming buff gamesContraband Police, Holocure, some random JP quiz game, and Outer Wilds are not buff games for Gura anon.
So what are HoloEN's competitors in the West now?
>>59242638Mr. Boogie Woogie Technique is who Slap God fits onto best
>>59242792tempus collab
>how to make gura stream for 1 weekDebut EN4
Advent: 1/5Regloss: i dont know i only watch Raden
EN problem is that they have no tourist draw without Gura. They desperately need a new Gura and didn't get one. Regloss got 30k to 40k collabs but the most Advent got was 20k.
>>59242702get your chink hate out of your head
>>59242508I pray everyday (since yesterday) that Kanade backpedals on her interest to collab with Ollie. My chicken might be too retarded to realize Ollie's bad news.
>>59242736Anon normalfags think you're a literal paedophile if you watch Gura. Leave the house some time
>>59242755>she came back for some weeks>still seethed from start to finish until she fucked offLEMAO
>>59242421You make it sound like she collabed with this indie just to feel superior
>>59242792Unfortunately, that is still Nijisanji ENIn terms of "next closest," there is no next closest within the same market. They operate in a captured market.
>>59242676>fail to get new viewers >Fail to be called Golden Gen >Somehow it's Gura fault because she overlap them Truely retard lmao
>>59242735Actually it did matter anon. Because the “trend” was holoEN dropping below 6k ccv for their average and then once Kiara got removed, their average nearly jumped to 7k aka well above this “trend” and back to normal. That was the whole point. It’s fucking stupid paying mind to averages when a branch is so small and all it takes to fluctuate it is ONE PERSON with a low enough — or high enough ccv — to completely alter the trajectory of what you’re trying to evaluate to start with. One person influencing a graph should tell you that it’s a dumb thing to care about because it doesn’t even accurately portray the fucking scene you’re imagining.
>>59242827I take many random indie collabs over Ollie any day, srsly I hate her so much
>>59242817And how does a Gura affect that? Please take a look at the numbers for the Myth Anniversary streams and compare them to Advent.
Rome wasn't built in a day. JP vtubers worked hard to conquer every single view. Meanwhile the entire EN scene behave like Arab tribes with all its suqbble, and their Julius Caesar decided to gave up and retire with his money instead of conquering Britain or Syria.JP has their Rome built, while EN is in shambles.
>>59242860I do! That's how I know this isn't true.>paedoMaybe it's true in Bongland or something, but in the U.S. of A, it's not true. Maybe in like, the Deep South or somewhere with the crazy people, but not in the civilized parts
>>59242792all of the small corpos added up at the same time
A picture speaks a thousand words
>>59242860>normalfagsWhat normalfags lol. At worst i'm just gonna call you cringe
This thread has unironically hit rock bottom
>>59242871>Come back for some week>Promise she do better >Even say she want to reach 5m subWent MIAKEK, LUMAOAre chumbuds that fucking dumb
>>59242496You're just listening to the loud anti-weeb crusades. Those people are just 12 yos or twitter troons and trannies anyway, so don't take their words any seriously.
>>59242231ReGloss sub gains already starting to look pretty grim only two weeks in.
HOLO VS HOLO>HOLO VS HOLOHOLO VS HOLO>HOLO VS HOLO(repeat infinitely to cope from being stomped on by HoloEN every single day)
>>59242925So true sis
>>59242901There is an upgoing trend and downgoing trend depending on events like Sana's graduation/Advent's debut (upgoing) and literally any other time (downgoing or plateau). Even if you remove Gura the entire line went downward of 1k ccv (which the graph anon did for us) without changing the general trend.
>>59242922Delusional chumcuck. No normal person think it's okay for a grown man to be watching a child shark and buying her daki you fucking retard. It will always be niche in the west
>>59242659The ultimate dota story will always be speed gaming at mlg columbus, the amount of times I've watched that 1 hour video man...
>>59242945>he seethed so hard he forgot to use grammarlythis is an English speaking board
>>59242939nah, rock bottom is the ethrya general
>>59242901>if you change a variable in a graph, the data changesno way... Someone tell NASA
*FINAL EN COPE TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*>9/25 DAILY TALLY (1.000 - 4.999)3.974: Ike (Nijisanji)3.932: Vox (Nijisanji)2.920: Uki (Nijisanji)2.891: Bae (Hololive)2.585: Bettel (Holostars)2.309: Shu (Nijisanji)2.197: Sonny (Nijisanji)2.054: Altare (Holostars)2.044: Kyo (Nijisanji)1.979: Maria (Nijisanji)1.742: Rosemi (Nijisanji)1.630: Altare (Holostars)1.450: Vantacrow (Nijisanji)1.395: Ver (Nijisanji)1.335: Wilson (Nijisanji)1.186: Vezalius (Nijisanji)1.155: Reimu (Nijisanji)1.135: Fulgur (Nijisanji)1.107: Hex (Nijisanji)1.025: Shinri (Holostars)>EN COPE GOLDS FOR SEPTEMBER 20231) Calli (Hololive) - 4.257 - Armored Core VI2) Kiara (Hololive) - 3.798 - Baldur's Gate 33) Vezalius (Nijisanji) - 3.343 - Karaoke Stream4) Mumei (Hololive) - 4.193 - Just Chatting5) Calli (Hololive) - 4.394 - Hololive Fan Games6) Luca (Nijisanji) - 4.890 - Starri7) Bettel (Holostars) - 4.680 - TempusWeek #38) Shiori (Hololive) - 4.961 - Everhood9) Hakka (Holostars) - 4.171 - TempusWeek #510) Ame (Hololive) - 4.661 - CS:GO11) Vox (Nijisanji) - 4.439 - Just Chatting12) Kiara (Hololive) - 3.138 - Hotline Miami 213) Bettel (Holostars) - 1.955 - Week in Review14) Kiara (Hololive) - 3.685 - Nintendo Direct Watchalong15) Shiori (Hololive) - 4.553 - Everhood16) Nerissa (Hololive) - 4.706 - Mario Kart 817) Nerissa (Hololive) - 4.462 - Resident Evil Village18) Bijou (Hololive) - 4.249 - Baldur's Gate 319) Nerissa (Hololive) - 4.592 - Gartic Phone20) Reimu (Nijisanji) - 3.340 - I'm on Observation Duty 621) Ren (Nijisanji) - 3.550 - Just Chatting w/ Kyo22) Bae (Hololive) - 4.815 - Persona 5 Royal23) Shiori (Hololive) - 4.386 - Everhood24) Shiori (Hololive) - 4.810 - Art & Literature Club Handcam Stream25) Ike (Nijisanji) - 3.974 - Return Stream
>>59242607Now that I think about it I think Giri's brother/husband/boyfriend's retardation might have unintentionally caused Cover or HoloEN's management to monitor the collab after his dumbass comment so she might've legit been put under a microscope in case anything happened.
https://x.com/EIENproj/status/1705975381310771523?s=20BAU BAU
>>59242925So I'm guessing the weeks before where she was also streaming just don't count.
>>59243010Kek poorfag ....
>>59242984You mean holoEN being stomped by JP? There is a reason why I applaud Kronii and Mumei (assuming her stream wasn't botted) for getting gold on their 3D showcases. They probably beat nijiEN in global gold this year, which is a reverse because nijiEN got more global gold than holoEN last year.
>>59243020That doesn't change the fact chumbuds is retard for believing gura then get dump by her for 10 timeMust be nice to oshi a chuba that doesn't stream
>>59242993Oh damn, Holo beat some dipshits about to be fired? Holy fuck, add yet another round to the tally.
>>59242993Vtuber Journalist is one of the dumbest things one can put in their name
>>59243031>after all the edging last night, not a single HoloEN stream that was close to winning the cope tally made it inGod DAMN
>>59242945>Promise she do betterWhen did she do that?
>>59242817>No tourists without GuraSo who are those 70k people who showed up for Mumei then?
>>59243010Nah normalfags like myself don't call chumkeks pedos, no we call them a bunch of pathetic cucks instead
>>59243031why is he nuzzling a sapling
>>59243031>18) Bijou (Hololive) - 4.249 - Baldur's Gate 3What a fucking waste.
>>59243048Shameless
>>59243064>doesnt stream>still a 5viewsLife so ez
>>59243064
>>59243055Yes, a week before the debuts, 2 weeks after the debuts. Perfect timing
>>59242580Whoever said that chartanon ruined this thread was right. Niggas here look at one metric to the exclusion of all others and context be damned.
>>59242961Tell any of your co-workers you watch vtubers and they will look at you like you have mental issues. It still has a stigma, most likely rooted in xenophobia
Chumbuds opinions on Ouro Kronii?
>>59243101>50% from JP
>>59243103>Normalfag on vtuber board on 4chanAnon... you retards don't even know what a normalfag is anymore jesus christ
>>59242101Initially I thought Diamond 4 would have been her limit being in pred mast lobbies and all, but she's climbing way faster than I thought.Personally I'm still skeptical but Master is possible.
>>59242760Exactly. Fauna has dominated the cripple tally for the entire year just by getting 8-9k on random gaming streams. We'd have entire weeks with just one or two streams during EN prime time. Most of them just random Bae/Ame/Mori streams getting 4-5k with no overlap. Now we have 3 or 4 people overlapping at any time during NA time and bringing a 10-20k box with them and retards are still pretending this is a bad thing and a flop.
The best way for hololive to grow in the west could be a live action adaption like one piece. This could led to japanese idol culture becoming more mainstream.
>>59243089https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PfTFVI1tPk
>>59243101bots
>>59243122>Proud of his oshi didn't fucking stream but still 5viewsMy fucking godI fucking kneel chumbudsFor being this retardFeels good my oshi have good number and fucking stream
Where's the fucking raspberry tally?! need to laugh at shitters before going to sleep
>>59243166Lazy
>tried to sell Ruffians access to Mococo's belly button for 200$/h>gaslit the other Advent girls into thinking that Mococo is the evil twin>F: Eh, Moco-chan, can you read? *laughs*>F: Moco-chan, what do you think of the staff? M: I can't use it that well... F: That's a you-issue, no?>F: You apologize too, Moco-chan. M: I apologized!!! F: I don't know if it's enough! >M (asking Advent girls): Do you want to be my sister? F: No one wants to be your sister.>F: You don't listen to me. M: I'm sowwy F: You should be.>F: Moco-chan, you're kinda like a monkey. *laughs*>F: I maybe implied that Moco-chan is only good for paying her portion of the rent. M: Do you really think that's true? F: It is true. M: You like being with me, right? Spending time together? F: [after 3 seconds] ...Yeah!>F: Do you even deserve the tea anymore? My sister is just too pathetic. Why is my little sister so weak?
Let's be honest here. There is no reason for Gura to stream. It still baffles me that in western Youtube/Twitch culture, the more you hate your viewers, the more views you can get. I have no comment on the fetish of these anglosphere viewers, but it is what it is, and Gura is doing the right thing (for her wallet).
>>59243161I work in software dev and everyone knows I watch vtubers, most normies just consider it as weird as anime. It depends how weird they think anime is as to how pyscho they go over vtubers
>>59243166she is blue so I like her too
>>59243161I have and that didn't happen
>>59243179What? You fucker really think this is some secret hideout for social rejects? Lol
>>59243158The context of that post was>chartanon ruined my shitposting thread by making it actually talk about numbersso I don't know what you're getting at
>>59243182I was not expecting her to get halfway through Plat so quick.
>>59243031How the fuck did NijiEN lose this cope tally as well?
>>59243211At least I am not a cuck lol.
>>59243161Damm where are you from? Mine were just like "cool i guess" then move to another topic.
>Council stream everyday Cover : Sorry No>doesnt stream Cover : here your new merch Kek i want to be like that too
>>59243055>>59243140Presented without comment
>>59243226God I want Fuwawa femdom doujins>fuwawa training/forcing mococo to suck on my cock and swallow my cum
>>59243158Chartanon is a fag and always has been. Newfags don’t even know he was also the same guy stirring the pot for antis to attack council and was purposely making graphs to make nijiEN look better than holoEN. On top of that, he would ignore every single thing in holoEN and omit those facts in evaluating performance, then go on this long tirades contextualizing everything for holoJP.The dude is a giant fag and should unironically be exiled from the thread
>>59243296Council are irrelevant. Their numbers speak for themselves.
>>59243042Jap-sama is always watching
>>59243286And the sisters reveal herself
>>59243211>Feels good my oshi have good number and fucking streamNice 2views you got there
>>59243286>At least I am not a cuck lolKeep holding on to that hope lol
>>59243161It's not xenophobia, a ton of people, and not just old people, still see cartoons as kid stuff. The vast majority of the population also doesn't watch streamers of any kind, and unlike in Japan in fleshstreamers have next to no presence off the Internet.
Go to bed, SEA. Stop pretending you can type coherent english sentences.
>>59243228Gura is based for milking and ghosting me. Will akasupa the next time she show up in like 2 months.
====UI UPDATE===1.05M Subs8.2M views
>>59243338what number, they're the strongest gen beating myth
>>59243351>>59243354>admitting you are cucksI don't judge, so good for you I guess.
>>59243165And these don't count as tourists because?
Reminder
>>59243384You first my fellow SEA friend
>>59243211Well your oshi better have numbers because you seem to be hyperfixated on a girl you don't watch
>>59243338Now show Myths
News
>>59243193She said she wanted to be more vocal about how she appreciate her fan and somehow you take it as if she promised to stream more?
>>59243402Sure sis#cut4hex
>>59243385At least those are not condom money lol.
>>59243296No 2M? No merch
>>59243255You are honestly a retard anon.
>>59243445She promised to either set up a member's stream the following day or just a normal stream and that she was trying to figure out what to do. Speaking of which, when was the last member's stream she even did?
>>59243420so chumbuds get their entertaiment from the schizos that seethe about Gura? are the schizos their oshi?
>>59243443
>>59243394Those MMD shorts of the MV just just get panty shots all over due to the sheer speed and force of the dance movement.
>>59243481>FWMC head to head with the runt of ReglossWoah...
>>59243481Just can HoloEN at this point if fucking ID is going to beat them regularly.
>>59243228Don't act like there aren't a bunch of JPs who stop streaming with no downsides too. Aqua didn't stream for most of 2022 and suffered no repercussions, to say nothing of the usual suspects like Shion and Ayame.
>>59243445Well she would need to stream to do that wouldn't she you fucking brainlet
>>59243494>She promised to either set up a member's stream the following day or just a normal streamWhere in that clip or that tream did she promise that? Or is it just in your schizo brain?
>>59243420Based
>>59243296Councilfags really want to kill themself Stream every fucking day and Cover just like >who ? I dont know who the fuck are you talking about
>>59243443Absolutely Halal
>Gura>Fauna>Mumei>IRySThese girls are the pillars of CGDCT. They are the light in the darkness. They are beyond your pathetic criticisms. Nothing you said can harm the devotion of their fans to them.Cope and seethe
>>59243505Schizo seething about Gura usually gave me a new dose of Gura lewd
>>59243606>Fauna
>>59243582Almost anon, keep at those English lessons
>>59243542Look at this retard
>>59242341She got anti'd hard when she collabed with Mag, so it's not surprising.
>>59243551Yeah there are a lot of corrupted politicians in Rome too, but that only exist after Rome was built. EN doesn't even think about building their own Rome.
>>59243166Gura approves of her. We like her.
>>59243542>He doesn't know
>>59243606what about Towa?
>>59243562So where did she promise to do that retard? I too wanted to be Chuck Noris.
>>59243481Y-you guys know Biboo was in the phasmo stream right..
>>59243606Oh I get it, and since half of them don't stream there's no support structure in place and CGDCT came toppling down. That explains EN's numbers.
>sisters raid againOk, what happened to niji this timr
>>59243606>FaunaLOLAt least Mumei repent
>>59243166Their latest Powerwash collab was pretty good.
>>59243660Why? By who? Magmites?
>>59243551Yeah, but 2022 Aqua had a ton, and I mean a ton, of offstream stuff going on, so her fans had no reason to drop her.
>>59243445Anon even before all of Advent, Gura had a member stream in something like May listing out an entire list of movies/shows she wants to watch with the members for that month and wanted to make it a frequent occurrance. You can probably guess how that turned out
>>59243703There are more phoneposters posting in this thread than there are sisters browsing veetee right now.
The ESL is through the roof right now holy shit
>>59243703Luca yab
>>59243161Depends on where you're from. Manga and anime is the childhood of most people my age in my country, you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone here that doesn't know anime.
>>59243671I hate you wannabe Romaboos so muchYou know nothing about the structures that built Rome, it only became the beautiful city after it hit PEAK corruption
I'm gonna ask every fanbase their opinions on Ouro Kronii
WASH YOUR COCK, ANONHOLY SHIT
>>59243325>purposely making graphs to make nijiEN look better than holoENWhen the fuck did that happen? Are we thinking of the same chartanon? His last update was pretty neutral >>58349924, and he even praised Advent as a return to form for HoloEN
>>59243767>trust me bros >someone on this thread told me
>>59243703Nijicucks being cucked once again and NijiCN organs still being irrelevant (but that's just an everyday occurrence)
>>59243807Stop trying to change the topic chumkek
>>59243807I will respectfully wait until you call my fanbase to respond.
>>59243394Is this real?
>>59243796We're talking about the west anon
>>59243757Aqua literally said she was burned out from streaming, it was talked about here. And why is offstream stuff a valid excuse for JP but not for EN?
>>59243805The building phase, a.k.a. the Republic phase is the most interesting one.
>>59243767>listing out an entire list of movies/showsThread reading retard.
>>59243795>>59243827KekAnother yab?Time to check last thread
>Duolingo official account using Marine's song to shitpost on tiktok
Stop arguing, just post the guaranteed delicious Sui lewds. Or are you gonna run out of lewds for later or what? Is your folder such weak sauce?
>>59243859Because she gave an excuse, Gura can't even use basic communication to tell her cumchuckles that she's peacing out for awhile.
>Cover liked her >JP loved her >/vt/ hated her Kek that why Cover never listen to this place
>>59243897That is illegal right?
>>59243807We love blue women heret.pemaloe
>>59243807As a nousagi i don't care about her. But i was surprised to hear that Pekora knows about Kronii playing Slime Rancher 2.Also, Kronii is my favorite holocure character.
>>59243919>/vt/shitposters aren't exactly representative
>>59243660Magmites antied her? Last time I ever heard of that happening was Daph for obvious reasons.
>>59243859She actually had stuff to show though
>>59243913She literally said she will stream when she can. Fucking retards never read her message.
>>59243822>Go back through member streams to find it>First comment shown on Gura’s member stream calling her out for being inconsistent and not telling keeping anyone up to date with her scheduleOH NO NO. AND ITS EVEN WORSE NOW
>>59243807I will answer for all of themHoomans love Kronmei but don't really care about Kronii on her ownIRyStocrats love TimeRyS but don't really care about Kronii on her ownBrrats don't care about Kronii at allSaplings hate Kronii because Kronmei is more popularDeadbeats are the only ones that like Kronii the rest of myth doesn't care about her
>>59243859What offstream stuff did EN have? Myth concert, Holofes, what else?
>>59242177>stopping chumbuds from jumping shipstoo bad she fucked up with that silly joke "see you next year"that kinda makes me lose interest on her I hope its just me
>>59243919Sorry Japman you should really make your oshi stream
https://youtu.be/i4SRH9jfUMQ?si=JnI6LkJVzPk7ERBPThought?Also, Isegye are not in the discussion of KR chuuba thread?Needless to say PLAVE who are male and more Kpop-ish.
>>59243966>farming antis' moneyI would say Gura is based.
>>59243938This is NOT a Suisei lewd
>>59243872You were saying, fagboy? Wanna go suck some cock now?
>>59243919Contrary to what this shithole believes, there's literally no backlash from her ghosting, just the usual "I miss Gura" and fanart posting.
>>59242537>she shat out a child which means she can do no wrong Actual white knight lol
>antis literally don't know what is the charm of Guraroru
>>59243542And this is the kind of retard you share this thread with
>>59244002>joke
>>59241538She had mentioned earlier in the week that she was having a real rough time lately to the point of almost crying for a lot of reasons. This just probably triggered whatever she was going through.
Kiara playing F-Zero 99 in EU hours (if not actually EU Primetime) is currently doing "FWMC VN in EN Primetime" numbersThe VN debuff is literally unparalleled
>>59244028>>59243966Um..chumbudsHow do we response?
>>59243918>illegal>tiktokngmi
True chumbuds are happy when Gura is happy. If she's happier when she's not streaming we support that decision.
>>59243767And how is your reply relevant to this chain of replies starting with this post? >>59242945.
I got distracted, why are we shitting on Gura right now?
Reminder Antis will never win
Instead of arguing here maybe you guys should watch some Suika games? Ars is streaming it.
>>59244028alien? why? that is not a kids movie
>>59244109How would you know when she doesn't talk to you?
>>59243859>Involved with advertisements >Did concerts >Even though she was burned out from streaming she gave updates on what she was doing behind the scenes.>Active on Twitter
>>59244125>we
>>59244096This isn't even EU primetime unless you want to call FST Primetime
>>59244125Nijiniggers deflecting from their failures.
>>59241360Mumei literally achieved a 2X higher peak then her highest it's retarded to compare vshitshow with holoen they exist in a different dimension holoid is a fairer comparison
>>59244109The absolute state of chumbuds
>>59244109If she is happier graduated, would you want that? Honestly?
>>59244125Some fags got triggered when >we said council didn't do as well as expected.
>>59244149That's why I said "if not ACTUALLY EU Primetime"It's EU HOURS, but not EU PRIME. Unless a lot of Americans are here for the Yom Kippur holiday
>>59241625That's not something to be happy about anon maybe you should reconsider your way of thinking
>>59244190>wenijibro...
>>59243938>pink nailsMiko...
>>59244190You will always be a failure if you cant get 1m subs
>>59244144And a ton of covers, two EPs, and a freaking videogame.
>>59243897>duolingo shitpostingngmi
So Kiara is the only one thinking long term for the hololive brand huh? She is the only one that did something different and trying to get the EU market. Others are just thinking about their wallet.
>>59244169I would like to point out Vshojo has yet to even get a peak above 60k ccv in it's entire existence.
>>59243909Please use Holomen who like being lewded such as Flare.
>>59244190This time it's from the Advent overlap seething from a a month ago, actually. Adventists are quite the force.
>>59243966Still can't point out where did she "promise" to do better.
>>59243897link or you are a faggot.
>>59244255If>trying to get the EU marketand>thinking about their walletare incomparable goals to you, I don't think you meant to make the implication you just did with that post
>>59242775Except Advent didn't have this cavernous power gap in < 1 week after debut, which the weirdness I'm trying to point out here. Everyone in Advent pretty much started in the over/under 20k CCV range and bled from there over the course of August until they settled with the current power gap. By contrast, three members of ReGloss got dumpstered right out of the gate and couldn't even crack 20k the next day (Kanade barely manages it) with Ririka and Ao spedrunning sub-10k in less than a week. The only example of anything comparable in Advent is Nerissa, but even then she still manages to tread water above 10k for a couple weeks.Just to force things a bit, you could kinda use Hajime's Clubhouse 51 collabs as a way to gauge what tourists actually think, and, uh, apparently Kanade should be the runt here?
>>59243938
>>59244126>check his twitter>half of the stuff is just homo retweets
>>59243122proof?
>>59242999The point is if you just use the top 5 of holoEN then their numbers are just as good as JP but that faggot chartmaker will never do it because he's biased against EN and doesn't include proper context for them.
>>59244028Where is my reply faggot?>>59244123
>>59244278>AdventistsDid they finally drop the "Adventrix" name?
>>59243807No hard feelings against her, she fucked up many times during her career, but always stayed nice and friendly with our oshi. Can't hate anyone who's loved by Ina, I hope she can wash off the dirt off her reputation and get her shit back together as soon as possible, which is doable since she's on the right path it seems.t.Tako
>>59244319>Antis will never win
>>59244255>trying to get the EU market by beginning her streams 23-24 JSTogey
>>59244287don't link it, let this faggot find it by himself
>>59244306The keyword is>justOf course it is good to develop the brand and fill your wallet. Kiara does both, while others just chose their wallet and leech on the brand.
>>59244149It's never primetime for yuros lmao
>>59244349>if you (omit data) you (get a different result)no way...
>>59244087I mean even if its a joke made my autistic braincell lost its sparklethe "FIGHTING AGAINST THE HOMO PUSH" cope I was using ran outbeing radio silent is shit because feels like she doesnt even care about the JPs who admire her its the "Mori hates hololive" all over again but Gura version we cant have nice thingsI'll stick to my JP whore that I know the menhera pattern and fuwamoco will be my okazu
>>59242508Ollie doesn't really come across as someone you should be kneeling to unlike many other holos, which sure, makes her approachable but unremarkable
>>59243980What Myth concert? ENs this years have had Holofes, Connect the World, HoloSummer and 3D Showcases, all of which require trips to Japan.>But JPs do that tooJPs can hop a train, go to the studio, and then go back to their streaming setup. ENs (other than Mori and Irys) need to get on a plane for half a day, deal with jet lag, and then because they're not always there need to cram as much studio time in as possible in, but this thread expects them to stream anyways. Meanwhile JPs like Aqua are given a free pass. Aqua's live last year wasn't even that good considering how busy she supposedly was working on it.
>>59244358No, they can not use religious terms
>>59244028Oof Chumbies...
>>59242496West has fallen their twatter had a week long mental breakdown when mcdonalds japan posted an ad showing a normal family you can't (and don't want to) please these """people""".
>>59244312>use condoms with luna>do it raw with okayuwdsmbt?
>>59244383Do the weaker JPs get included?
>>59244349>The point is if you just use the top 5 of holoEN then their numbers are just as good as JPI don't think so m8, just on top of my head none of them (that are still streaming) is a 5view and JP's average is 5view.
>>59243897you are a faggot. He >>59244374 decided for you
>>59244439Don't be a culture war fag, anon, if you're interacting with that particular brainrotted segment of the population, that's on you
Very similar to /ggg/ raid with their imaginary "promise" but with less cunny lewd.
>>59244373Eastern Europe.
>>59244449I'm pretty sure they do, yes
>>59244125The guy who antis Gura in ggg 24/7 is her for some reason, he’s pretty boring just copy and pastes his bait
>>59244383>he wasn't here when chartanon used to omit all but the top 17 or so Nijis to fudge the data
sea hours were nicer fuck eu
>>59244503I mean we don't actually know because we don't have the raw data the graph is tabulated from.
>>59244534No need to be jealous, mutt.
>>59244125>weYou can tell it's the same schizos because they type out talking points like robots.
>>59244537He posts the formula each timeIf you wanna check, you can run the numbers yourself and cross-reference
>>59244527>all but the top 17 or so Nijis to fudge the dataBecause people would fucking ask, and they would still lose more than half the time, are you mental?
>>59244451Not if you account for the cull, which he will never do because he's biased.
Gura hate is absolutely overblown and only used by seething Nijitroons and BVTM browns as ammo against Hololive because they have nothing else.She could genuinely graduate, become an indie streamer and just get easy retirement money by spamming reactions and sleeping streams. And somewhat she would get far less antis than she has right now, for some reason.Instead she's choosing to stay in Hololive and do her idol reps. Like really is she only cared about money spamming low effort SC readings seems far easier than flying to Japan three times a year and doing idol reps.At this point you fags will only be happy with Gura graduating, which really proves who is behind all of this.>muh Advent overlapswe have fucking data clearly showing how Gura overlapping did nothing but increase the total EN box.
>>59244506He never replies to my post with a relevant post though...I'm still waiting for my post Advent debut "promise" proof
[IMPORTANT ANCHOR]Before tally shows up, post Hoshiyomi lewds
Yeah no one is helping the vtuber scene grow in the west so I am baffled that people are not disappointed.
Lmao the notMagni shill post is still up on the subreddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/16rfh49/you_are_not_allow_to_unsub_for_azki/>>59244502Ah yes targeting the audience that are essentially africa tier when it comes to wealth, very smart phoenix
>>59244477I am just saying that there are a lot of that type of people on the internet most from western countries, that hololive will never and should not try to reach you can't please these people only anime adjusant communities have potential to turn into fans.Although holoen could have done more they atleast reached the proper audiance and helped establish a presense for hololive among the weeb audiance which is also a very lucrative segment.
>>59244633sex degorazu
>>59244640Good? Do you even understand what you're asking for? Do you understand what needs to be done to grow the vtuber scene beyond the boundaries of people already interested in vtubers?
>>59244616>She could genuinely graduate, become an indie streamer and just get easy retirement money by spamming reactions and sleeping streams.Or she can retire in hololive, not stream at all and still gets the money. On top of them she can still make you seethe by merely existing.
>>59244633Ehehe
>>59244396Always choose an oshi with good work ethic (one that streams a lot). They are here to entertain you while you give them attention/views/sub/SC/merch
I still can't believe this fucking shirt is real
>>59244691Yes I know. If they work hard enough they can turn the tide of the culture. Instead of troons on TV we can have anime with late night comedy anchors.
So minecraft mondays today right bros?
>>59244307Fuwamoco's post-debut stream was a good 10k higher than everyone else. The only comparable thing was the Shiori karaoke that was raided into by everyone else. Nerissa also did not stay above 10k for weeks, she had multiple 4view streams. Bijou also bled down to 6k on her first post-debut stream under overlap. Hajime and Raden are just more popular than the other three in ReGloss. There is nothing out there that indicates YouTube is specifically targeting Ririka, Ao, and Kanade.
>>59244742>choose an oshiYou and I both know that isn't how this works, no matter how easy that would be
>>59240674>Drenched in Air>Google itWait what
>>59244772God that shirt is ugly as hell
>>59244633
>>59244667Eastern Europe is the future.
>>59244781Absolutely not, she needs to dodge Bijou.
>>59244781hopefully, she said she was going to stream today
>>59244721Re read that anon post anon. /ggg/ regular schizo just made your brain rot
>>59244773>just change the culture that has been engineered by the G7 governments and that has the backing of trillions of dollars, bro
>>59244368>Can't hate anyone who's loved by Ina,meaningless, that's all of EN.
>>59243849no
>>59240182Nerissa is pretty fine with crass language though all in all it's probably neutral twitch Vtubers collab with random people all the time, holo audience wouldn't move for twitch if they're not already there etc.
>>59244799WTF HOW HAS SHE NOT SHILLED THIS
This thread is so obsessed with growth and big numbers that people here stop thinking about why they even like the girls in the first place. Like seriously, numbers are funny and all, but they're secondary. Hololive is not even gonna stop dominating the EN scene anytime soon. This obsession is just useless, I'd watch my oshi no matter what her numbers are, and I think that most people here would do the same if they actually watch streams and enjoy Holo.
>>59244840>he thinks that's what the NWO is all aboutthis is why you don't understand the culture
>>59244802Just watch other girls regularly
>>59244840David vs Goliath. Russia showed us you can win against the demons that are controlling the world.
Is Kiara with a new game really not going to beat Kaela on Phasmo
>>59244865She has mentioned it before though.
>>59244870Don't ruin the fun, faggot
>>59244870You would think with that obsessions that they'd want the biggest Hololive member to stream more to get more big numbers.
>>59244870No shit, anon, but we aren't the fucking>"I love my oshi"thread, we're the numbers threadLike, no shit I'm going to watch my oshi no matter what, it wouldn't matter if she was a 1view to me. But we're not ABOUT that topic here. That's global. It's LITERALLY a thread about numbers.
>>59244870You are in the number thread. Our oshi is #.
Jwu. Gold status?
>>59244894>that's what winning looks likeAre you the IM poster, because that's the only person here I can think of who would post shit like that and go "winning lol"
>>59244865It's fucking awful dude
>>59244950Suika game gold.
>>59244870I have an oshi and a number oshi
>>59244950
>>59244936>Our oshi is #
>>59244870I like to think of myself as a concerned parent. I love them but I want to see them reach their potential
>>59244950Secured.
>>59244962They just need 1 more push.
>>59244896>Muh new gameYou mean the new game where Pekora bled out 10k views in 1 hour?
>>59244870>/#/ threadObviously people here talk about growth and numbers, that's what makes this place unique because there are a shit ton of people interested in talking about this, when this place isn't infested by mentally ill scizos it's a good place to discuss the medium as a whole.
Isegye Idol(WAKATAVERSE) have their own music chart.You can even download the APP.
>>59244616>"we have fucking data clearly showing how Gura overlapping did nothing but increase the total EN box."Indeed, that is pretty strong proof, I even assumed at the time that she was probably asked to do that. Risings tides and all that. Anyways, she wanted to be Miku and she's Miku now so I don't really care, but it does hurt the branch though.
>>59245029And we also have the best lewds, don't forget that
>>59245012Certainly not the green whore anyway.
>>59244616>we have fucking data clearly showing how Gura overlapping did nothing but increase the total EN box.Post it.
Man, I miss Sana's horoscope series, they were fun
>>59244721Retardchama I was literally defending Gura. Let me rephrase it, if Gura was really that lazy and only interested in money she would choose the easy way out. Just like Fagni, Vespiss, Mysterio and Sana did. Of course it sucks for her long time fans but if the alternative is Gura graduating then I'm sure this is the better alternative for any Chumbud or Hololive fan.The ones constantly seething at her are Nijitroons and sisters. Vespiss graduating after getting a full blown redesign and without even saying goodbye somewhat gets less hate than Gura. Despite being objectively the least respectable choice.
>>59244896bijou buf- ummm orange debuff
>>59244865The song is great and even done with Camelia, if it hadn't been promoted like crap it would have been a big fucking song. Even as a tako I barely knew it existed, and it's not even linked as one of her songs in /wah/. Fucking hell man.
>>59245035This anon fell hard for isegye huhAlso they did this before holo although it probably won't have as many users it's impressive
>>59244772I wouldn't be suprise it's a last minute addition or no t-shirt at all.
Suityan
>>59244527He did that to show that NijiJP would still get fucking mogged by Hololive even if you just include their heavy hitters, because a common nijicoep was that all the shitters brought down the NijiJP branch average so it wasn't fair
>>59245035I wanted to say none cares but I actually do. The fact that we could have gotten 5 Kanades by this point if Hololive wasn't a slowchama is depressing. The community's proving their market potential too.
>>59244802you just need to consciously channel seethe until the bond is broken.
>>59245028Mori got 5k with it though.
>>59245058Stop bringing up Finana sister
I can't get enough of these watermelons. I am not even black.
>>59244901Yeah, offhandedly in maybe 1-2 stream segues, and two retweets:https://twitter.com/cametek/status/1624772150937919494 (this one doesn't even have her name on it...)https://twitter.com/cametek/status/1643187872999309313
>>59245103>intentionally breaking your bond with your oshi>you don't even get a Mangekyo out of it, you just lose a bondWhy would you ever do that?
>>59245080wa kyo mou
>>59244870Numbers are why Pekora gets a sololive and dozens of other holo members don'tI will watch my oshi of course. But I also want her to be able to do amazing things and have access to good opportunities. I don't want to me them get to the level of Kiara where she desperately wants to get a sololive and she might never get it. Numbers matter for cover and if you don't have them you get deprioritized.
Hey check out this 3viewhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0uJX461M1o
>>59244870Advent newfag? Feels like they're the only ones melting down about numbers rn, probably the same people gassing up hajime.
>>59244870>Hololive is not even gonna stop dominating the EN scene anytime soonYou missed the entire point hololive en can be so much more with just a little effort. They could be getting McDonalds and starbuck commercials like jp does. Yet the biggest sponsorship en had for the past three years is gura being in a tiny piece of a taco bell ad. They could even go into english voice acting and dub anime or video games imagine the reaction if someone like kronii showed up in spider man 2.
>>59245136CHIIIIIIIISAI
>>59245192>They could be getting McDonalds and starbuck commercialsMeds
>>59245192Why do you want that?
>>59245192Don't think they have that much potential but they can definitely create waves in the weeb market
>>59245071>it's not even linked as one of her songs in /wah/Blindtako...although to be fair both it and Summertime were randomly getting forgotten by several thread bakers.
>>59245169>already in this for 3 years>still baiting for "show-ken-san"Singing is 7/10 at best. To be honest she should have more viewers as Yoshika who is a 5/10 at best has double her views. But then again I don't like people who put Mr Show-Ken's name in their title.
>>59245169Already did. Didn't know she was streaming tho
>>59245192It's management's job to secure sponsorships you dipshit, why are you trying to lay that at the feet of the girls?
I would like to remind everyone that streamers in general are considered garbage in the west for plenty of good reasons, most of which are Twitch relatedHololive still could stand apart from that reputation if they would actually be professional and pleasant to watch while in western events
>>59245069There are hardly any Verper fans, most are just tourist and "interaction" fan. That's why you could see a lack of sadness even outside of here, pathetic bunch the homo are.
>>59245212SHINNNNEEEE
>>59245029>when this place isn't infested by mentally ill schizosSo never?
>>59245192Hololive can be big, appearing in the next Assassin's Creed, the next Cyberpunk, the next MW or CSGO. But they didn't. The girls did not work hard enough.
>>59245294If you aren't around for the good times, and only see it during the bad times, that says more about you than you think it does
All natural 4k for Kiara
>>59245294This time is generally void of the most mentally ill scizos the reason why we can have this topic running right now, dosent work in other timeslots.
>>59245294FST hours are nice
>>59245303Graduate them then. If they're not producing anything worthwhile and spam debuff games/etc, just fire them.
>>59245192That's just out of reach honestly, this isn't Japan, most people think that the very concept of vtubers is weird as fuck. We'll never be a mainstream community, and if it can get us away from being a topic of discussion for faggots on Twitter, then I'm happy to stay this way.
EN during EU hours
>>59245294No. It was kinda bad last year, but it worsened this May.
>>59245271>a lack of sadnessThere were plenty of sadness, not for the homos though but for the lost connection to holoen
>>59245275KAKYOIN!
>>59245192You are utterly delusional if you think that big American brands are going to advertise with anime streamers. They barely even use fleshstreamers. The only reason the Taco Bell thing even existed is because it was an anime-themed commercial meant to air during the fucking Japanese Olympics. HoloEN could be burying JP in CCV and American brands still wouldn't want to use them.
>>59245346I agree. All holoEN except for Advent should be fired. We should start anew.
>>59245237Oh you're right it's there. I remember pointing out that the song wasn't included a couple months ago, hadn't seen the change, my bad.
>>59245029It's also one of the few places that actively calls out shit behaviour like Pagpagi selling Holo doxx, BVTM browns raiding this place, homobeggars being Hololive antis and Nijitroons samefagging on cooldown.
>>59245351I wouldn't say never but it won't be atleast in 30+ years the medium or hololive most probably won't survive for that long
>>59245351>very concept of vtubers is weird as fuckBecause the view on them, mostly at this point, is pretty much set and molded after Twitch ones. There is no changing this at this point in the West, and it's why you get some honestly bizarre comments in the EN girl's chats on YT.
>>59245338Because you astroturfing discord raiders drown out all discussion pretending like you care about a 6k shitter
>>59245307/news/ and /drama/ times are good time, like right now since /ggg/ schizo hasn't given me proof for 30 minutes now.
> homobeggar tagged comments in the JJK comment sectionso many things make sense now
>>59245354im gonna keep it a buck fifty with youyou have to pay me 20 euros an hour to watch kiaras streams
>>59245192Anime girls dont have the same staying power in the US that they do in japan, it would be nice to see but its just not possible in the US market, maybe MAYBE more in the future
>>59245395>HoloEN could be burying JP in CCVBut reality is that they don't.
>>59245407>except for AdventThey're doing the worst, anon.
>>59245436>you faggots make this place actually decent sometimes, I fucking hate youmy guy?
>>59245354Where is the queen of EU hours - Enna?
>>59241688she already did though, during the 3rd Holofes iirc
Would've Nerissa gotten 17k if the collab was on her YT channel
>>59245436>cries about the holo thread discussing a popular holoConceal your jealously and envy more sis, its pathetic
>>59245307If you can't handle /#/ at its worst, you don't deserve its best.
>>59245452No, the West wants sluts, e-celeb drama, and a hommie to kiss. None of this weeb shit will work
>>59245525fuck noshe would have gotten like 7k
>>59245484They are still new. Give them some time. They already performed better during their first month than Council, which had pandemic buff.
>>59245525>would someone have gotten Twitch numbers if they were on a different platformno
>>59245395Big companies don't even use big fleshstreamers for advertising so i don't know why anyone aside from a shitposter would expect HoloEN to be able to achieve that
>>59245455Being unable to understand a hypothetical statement isn't a good look anon
>>59245550>Give them some time.To what, get lower?
>>59245525>he thinks twitch numbers are legit lmao
>>59245535Sounds like something a thot would say.
EN should be given Regloss since they're not a pure JP branch anyway. Raden can get us gold global once a month and we'll also have a good singer.
>>59245535I always find that quote funny since even she herself couldn't handle herself at her worst
>>59245455Way to miss the entire point of the post retard.
>general anti-holo, anti-Vtuber schizophrenia devolving into general anti-west-as-a-whole schizophreniawhy does this happen with non-insignificant regularity here
wow this game sucks and kiara is bad at it. cool.
I literally had a rant a couple days ago about retards misusing the term normalfag to describe anyone who isn't into a hardcore Vtuber fan shitposting on 4chan. Or retards ignoring how massive the massive weeb market is and how it's mostly still untapped.
>>59245604Yes, Western streaming culture is fucking awesome. You see that Hasan clip, bro?
>>59245604That's much better. Like, a legit good topic
>>59245100If cover was not full of morons, this should've been their debut schedule>20212 EN 2 KR >20221 EN 1 KR 1 ID>20231 JP 1 EN 1 KR 1 IDAccelerate is needed during the early stages of a branch. 4 years for 3 en gens is not okay
>>59245432No, the weird thing is that most people consider Twitch whores the normal ones since they act exactly like any other streamer on the platform. It's the idea of unicorns, idols, gachis and everything that goes with it which is weird for them.Just compare the reputation of women like Ice Spice or Cardi B to the reputation of women in Japanese idol groups. The latter one has a way harsher reputation between normalfags.
Raden - Shiori (zatsu holo that can't play games)Hajime/Ao - FWMC (the reversal of normal EN/JP)Kanade - Nerissa (singing)Ririka - Bijou (gamer)
>>59245663>Accelerate is needed during the early stages of a branchThen why has it fucking failed with every other attempt
When was IRyS' last 1k tick? A couple weeks ago?
>>59245455ESL. Go back.
>>59245657Not "streaming culture," the ones going on about the whole-ass world
>>59245604The west is dying, and dragging the whole world down with it. The only ones that benefit from this are the rich.
>>59245671You do realise all those things have their own western/twitch counterparts by a different name? Surely you dont actually think vtubing is unique in that regard?
>>59245358Easily. When Mag/Ves got suspended this turned into falseflag central since any homo post would get people to bite and now it’s been turned into /Schizo/ with occasional /#/ talk
>>59245619Shit taste, but yeah, Kiara is bad at it.
We need a minecraft arc...
>>59245690>Nerissa (singing)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nerissa>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>singinglmao, you got me to reply
>>59245427I feel like if just a few big celebrities came out and said they watch vtubers opinions would change really fast, like how dnd and ttrpgs are basically mainstream at this point
>>59245604>general anti-west-as-a-wholeThere is? I see anons fantasizing about sucking off McDonald's or something.
>>59245738Nah it began after the ban wave starting with RobberRoss.
>>59245704But HoloJP is thriving?
>>59245604West has made a joke of itself in the last 5 years, i don't dislike it as most of the holoen community is very decent but that is because these fans are associated with the weeb market prior to entering into holoen.On the other hand a wast number of them seem to hate watch anime and call if vile shit, i loathe the muh idol culture muh parasocial muh dosent acknowledge muh boys group very much a lot of these people come from fleshtuber communities and from other vtuber communities.
>>59245551If offlinetv could get a McDonalds sponsorship than hololive en should be able to get one also there no excuse.
>>59245767eh, scroll up a few posts and you'll see some of it
>>59245704What every other attempt?Gen 1-4 + gamers were accelerate debuts in the span of 2 years
how many holos will play the game?
>>59245751That is the point. You think Kanade is not """singing""""" too.
>>59245690Nerissa doesn't singHajime Ao makes no senseShiori is le quirky drok girl while Raden is le classy girl turned messyDo better next time ChatGPT
>>59245787>>59245799"every other attempt" being>every time anyone has tried ACCEL-strats that was not HoloJP's pre-boom years
>>59245819If Subaru doesn't, you know why.
>>59241081Usually I'd use an op shitting on nijisanji but I was busy tonight
>>59245069Sometimes i wonder what drive her to do all those shit, one long meeting or few hours of recording is enough to sap her whole day of stream energy.
>>59245599I would love if regloss got merged into EN. Let the girl shiori fails to larp into JP7 and find a few more oddballs. Some sort of profession cook would be neat
>>59245395After watching that kiara gay gta stream, i think is how boomer and average american think of anime and vtuberhttps://youtu.be/u6gAOaa9gMo?si=XRCxL_4K1dCbTaqc
>>59245551Yeah, streamers basically don't exist offline. Hell, you'll have a much easier time finding Hololive merch on American Amazon than anything from fleshstreamers, that's how little footprint they have when not streaming.
chumGODS
>>59245750we need ARK arc, but with EN
>>59245881Maybe. But holoEN had the potential to change that view.
>>59245690>Shiori (zatsu holo that can't play games)You know I think shiori has some gaming skills, she's been pretty good at everhood and has done well in all the advent collabs also likes playing soulsborne games offscreen
>>59245846Why do you think nijisanji dominated the market before Hololive's boom?
>>59245354>Vantacrow Bringer
>>59245819Man, they really took some liberties with her appearance.
>>59245819more like, how many nijis will play it
>>59245917There are literally more twitch whores than HoloEN, and those twitch whores validate that shit more
loli kami8,281,322 views
>>59245959There are more JP indies than holoJP so what is your point?
>>59245969Actual HoloCHADS stay winning
>>59245604tbf a lot of people got attached to HoloEN because they were so unlike anything else in western streaming. ESPECIALLY in 2020. I remember feeling so refreshed when I saw Gura put a "No politics" disclaimer on her stream back then.
>>59245819She looks like your average NPC, anymore recognizable part?
>>59245987>Comparing JP to ENAre you stupid
>>59245992Shame about her anniversary stream.
>>59245929>Dominating the pre-2020 marketThat's like bragging about how you have the biggest inflatable pool in the neighborhood
>>59245992>holo
>Thread doesn't talk about Shiori and wanting to stuff their face between her legs>Thread becomes utter shit>Thread talks about Shiori>Thread becomes goodI think I know what we must do
>>59245848New fag here, why?
Kiara incline.
>>59246031Graduate her?
>>59246033hololive bowing to china yet again
I want to suck Towa’s cute feminine penis until it cooms
>>59245663Yeah anon it's not like everyone's been complaining about how little support they give to their foreign branches because of Covid or anything for the past two years
>>59245987as long as Twitch is bigger than Youtube in terms of streaming platform in the west, HoloEN can't never pop off
>>59245787Yeah anon Aki and Mel sure are raking in the numbers
>>59246031invest in lysol?
>>59245420> It's also one of the few places that actively calls out shit behaviourReally nigga
>>59245917Yes, a single group of anime streamers is going to change the entire perception of anime in a culture of over a billion people who don't know they exist.
>>592459699-sai dude
>>59246133I meanyou got a better example
>>59245727Yeah terms like paypig, oiler, and incel that are filled with disdainThere is no positive spin for unicorns on twitch anon. Everyone knows that a female streamer having a boyfriend is a huge debuff and the people that publicly say they have an issues with it still get called a parasocial incel regardles.
>>59245917It's hard to change that culture when there less than 20 holoen and non stream on twitch to spread it. It's already over anon, twitch already plague with titties and coomerbait vtuber. But hey, at least I'm enjoyed isegye concert, it's insignificant in term of cultural impact but it something.
>>59246081Dunno, now we only got 1 Kanade instead of 5. That's bad business desu
>>59246139Bruce Lee singlehandedly changed the perception of kung fu. He was just 1 person.
>>59245420Sorry to burst your bubble anon but that isn't an exclusively here trait, and honestly you should really get out more if you seriously think we are the only ones who shat on doxsagi for selling dox
>>59246031Buy an ad
Why are we even arguing about wanting to "change the culture of streaming as a whole in Twitch circles" as a goal for HoloENThe whole point is building their own box. Why would you guys bemoan the fact that they built their own exclusion zone, over trying to integrate into the greater exclusion zone of flesh streaming?
>>59246025Why are you moving the goalpost? Kizuna Ai and the heavenly kings dominated first, but they fell off hard because they didn't have access to accelerate strats and got crammed by nijisanji. Hololive also had to use acceleration strays.nowadays, the market is split between hololive and nijisanji. Imagine if they were stuck with Roboco for 2 yearsHololive gave up a lot of the western vtuber market they kickstarted by being completely passive and allowing other companies and converts to take advantage
>>59242508Ollie is literally the town bike of Hololive, zero respect
Nobody elaborated on the Luca yab so I looked myself. How is Luca not fired yet for his pure retardation?
>>59245307Anon I've been here since literally the first thread, and this place has never been schizo free. The only thing that changes is the flavour of schizo and the how much the thread jumps in
>>59245449hey I hate those beggars but I still like JJK
https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1706367707594232176uhh why is Mumei flirting with a male and no one talk about this
>>59245987Holoen will have to override the 5+ year twitchwhore and worse onlyfans women have made on the internet, i have found this weird that a lot of people unironically say that they prefer vtubers over 3dp women because "all of them are whores" i do get where they are coming from twitch whore were the most abnoxious creatures on the planet, normal female creators didn't get any attention and fizzled out of livestreming leaving rage/clipbait whores and then literal softcore porn dominating twitch meta for women.Then only fans also became big and there was a huge influx of OF creators which ruined the image of female creators on the internet i think only female youtubers were exempted because they operate in a different space.
>>59246117Imagine, if weren't for accelerate strats, Roboco, Aki and Mel would be the ones in charge of starting the hololive incline in 2019. Think about it
>>59245339The fuck are you talking about, this time is one of the worst periods for this thread because of the overlap between EU shitposters and late night seafags
>>59246244Do you honestly thing there's any NijiEN management left at this point? They don't care and that division is crashing and burning.
>>59246244>How is Luca not fired yetHe could fuck their manager and i doubt he would be fired anon.
>>59246237On the same token, though, Hololive ditching "Accel" strats has also been correlated to their absolute peak in success, while Niji continued with it and saw it crash.
>>59246237>by being completely passiveThe girls oppose the new gen because they were afraid that those new girls will reduce their revenue. They wanted a male branch to lust over instread. It is only Mr Jap coming into power that put a stop to all the nonsense forced by the girls on the company.
>>59245294They get banned sometimes, there's less than five of them here so it's easy to see
>>59246139>Yes, a single group of anime streamers is going to change the entire perception of anime in a culture of over a billionI mean it already changing if you go back ten years and talk about anime people would look at you crazy. These days anime is mainstream and you can find anime shirts and major retailers.. If went back five years and say the top English's speaking female streamer would be a group of vtubers you would seem crazy.
>>59245929Nijisanji never dominated the market, we went straight from kizuna Ai clone saga to the Christmas miracle
>>59246244>EnnaSo this is a yab how?
>>59245819You can't even tell it's her, it's like they took a photo with matsuri/laplus filters
>>59246244why is petra acting like she is afraid of unicorn?
>>592448703D lives and concerts give big Noombers and that’s what I enjoy the most, My interests align. Yours should too unless you don’t care about that and only what SC reads~
>>59246244Because luca is fucking the manager
>>59246303NijiEN management already know they’re getting fired after the merge
>>59245395The problem is that Cover isn't even getting sponsorships from smaller brands anon
>>59245551virtually every big fleshtuber is a drama magnet. hololive (EN included) is a very safe pick for a sponsor since there's no drama and everything is family friendly.
>>59246298Do you not see the jp primetime? The worse scizos (possibly in 4chan history) are active at the time this is very fucking chill compared to other timeslots
>>59244870we know anon, true numberfags know that "numbers go up" meant "your oshi is making it".which is why you should think twice before getting baited again.
>>59246368Even normalfag fans (what little they have) aren't exactly enthused about listening to stories where the girl they're watching talks about taking her pants off in front of a dude
>>59245819Miko
>>59246368They wanted to be as popular as Hololive while doing their mix gender shit but the illusion is completely dead now
>>59246387Didn't they literally just do an FGO sponsor stream
>>59246383>mergeThat's not going to happen.
>>59246273I went to check how Google TL would mess up Mumei's name in his description:>Seven Uta MumeiThat's a new level of bad translation of her name.
>>59245192>They could be getting McDonalds and starbuck commercials like jp doebruh
>>59246244Why does Niji main branch allow these tards into their ranks? They're not even getting numbers anymore
>>59245294every 3 days that the chameleon schizo gets banned is a wonderful time here
>>59246293That is the thing. The twitch thots and onlyfans whores have no charisma. If holoENs have some charisma then they would easily dominate the market. Turns out they are no better than thots and whores in terms of charisma.
>>59246391>The worse schizos (possibly in 4chan history)We are not at the level of Accelfag or Barry or Barneyfag yet
>>59246356>>59246368Outside what other people are saying Luxiem being Japan was supposed to be a secret so Luca mentioning he was there basically means he essentially leaked Luxiem is likely making a project at NijiHQ.
>>59246449M8 accelfag saved /a/.
>>59245819Kiara seems deadset on playing it
>>59246430perfectly fitting name for her since she can sing
>>59245192> They could be getting McDonalds and starbuck commercials anonpleasefor the love of godget the fuck out of your housego to your local mcdonaldsshow them a picture of your oshi photoshopped near a mcd burgerand tell us how they react
>>59245559Hey, give him a break, there is an IQ cut off point required for having the imagination to use hypotheticals.
>>59246316>ditchingAccelerate is needed up to a point (20-30), don't be like nijisanji that accelerates to 150. Imagine if they only had a 10 holo lineup in 2020-2021 (OGs and gen1), they wouldn't be as successful as they are now
>>59245881Anon that was literally 15 years ago
>>59246498This, even normalfag games wont get collabs with mcdonalds (except for I guess counterstrike during that major in copenhagen)
>>59244442Okayu was in heat, Luna is just horny
>>59246444Lol no they are bigger then any female streamer in the west vtubing is still a niche and most of these girls have weeb interest their content isn't exactly geared towards non weeb western audiance
Will Fauna bitch out or will she actually play minecraft, knowing Bijou is playing today specifically to meet her?
Holokeks can talk shit all they want, it doesn’t matter because I self insert as Luca Kek!
>>59246498NTA but probably the same way they will react if I show them a photoshoped Megan Fox near a Big Mac.
>>59246244KEKED
>>59246391JP primetime has nothing compared to this early EU hours because it has the twin characteristics of no streams/announcements/news to discuss and dedicated schizos that seem to be most active around this time that very easily drives the entire thread into the shit if a couple of them gets together
>>59246555The only ones getting collabs with McDonald’s are famous singers.
>>59246579You seem to like niji so much that you would rather people here, majority holofans, to talk about niji, huh? You've been doing this all thread.
Reminder that HoloEN got big on power of being entertaining, pleasant and apolitical while avoiding drama This rare combo still works perfectly well and combined with being professional and having sensible fans can easily convince normalfags that hololive is okay
Holospy hereCover is currently forcing all the girls in JP to do recording sessionsTheir current plan is to make a Hololive GalgeHolospy out
>>59246563>BijouWho?
>doesn’t stream after Unikeks anti’d her after HZTL stuff
>>59246557she wasn't in the first, or it was in the heat of the moment?
>>59246326mouseyschizo took his gig into the catalog and got merked I'm pretty sure.
>>59246498But that's what I actually do all the time tho?
>>59246649But she did?
>>59246640>being entertaining, pleasant and apolitical while avoiding dramaNijiEN, Kawaii and IdolEN are all of that too.
>>59246293I mean, personally I never watched streamers before HoloEN outside of the odd game tournament here or there. If they were to vanish tomorrow I would just quit again.
>>59246396>Christmas Miracle brought about by the collapse of another girl's stream>The HoloBoom Period brought about by COVID>EN success results in literally every other EN competitor dying horriblyWhat this is telling me is that Hololive grows when other people suffer
>>59246684LolLmao
>>59246640No because you have twitch and twitter thots seething constantly. Even Shiori feel for the “Hololive fans bad” shit.
>>59246644YAGOO GODGive me 5 Iroha sex scenes and I'll be membering main channel for the first time
>>59246484He should save this board then.
>>59246649lmao greyshart
>>59246640Holoen needs a good leader.. someone that can reach guras level and is actually willing to take the company forward like fubukis and sankise did, though it's probably very difficult for someone like this to be found.
>>59246426It is if the revenue numbers keep dropping. They can merge them into nijisanji and mask the decline in revenue with the JP numbers
>>59246368She isn't. Petra has this thing where she doesn't talk about people unless she has their permission. Many times she has met with KR and JP members and never talked about it because she forget to ask but then the other person talk about it, like with seffyna and kotoka
>>59246579>Self insert as retarded sex pestThat explains a lot
>>59246244My brother in Christ...NijiEN does not have male VTuber unicorn fans.Nobody in the girls' fanbase is going to give a shit that Luca was with them.Pufferfish happened already and egregious as it was, it did fuckall to the numbers of those involved.Petra here, is saying the she thought LUCA didn't want to be mentioned being with them.You know why?Because they know all about the schizo female fanbase of Luxiem.Vox has faced the full brunt of it once, and Luca's gf or mod or whoever it was has already been bullied into leaving his fanbase, they know how schizo the sisters are and are just looking out for Luca.
>>59246684>pleasant>pleasant>pleasant
>>59246423The discussion is about EN ano-Oh wait, there was that disaster of a stream with Ina and Kronii Still, it's more about American brands
>>59246711fell*
>>59246759You do know that is just a fucking opinion right?
>>59246679>3 weeks agoSee you next year Irystokeks
>>59245354Just give me something good to watch and I'll watch it...I rather stick to vods when I see this lineup though...
Holy shit Vesper wishes he was this much of a pussy magnet as Luca. Guy is making it his mission to sleep with every female Niji member (seriously what's with him constantly trying to go with the girls to underwear shop)
>>59246773>disaster of a stream?
>>59246684
>>59246773Hasnt every collab shill stream been a fucking disaster in HoloEN? And people wonder why HoloEN doesnt do more sponsorships
>>59246711I think her rm hated corpos because she had a bad experience in her previous one don't think it's about the fanbase.
>>59246591If the audience is boomer enough, they will at least recognize her ass.Anime shit?Not in a million years.
>>59246773>disaster of a streamDidn't it get 1/2 the total CCV of the entire HLZNTL project with just two girls and almost no forewarning
>>59246758HOLY NEWFAGGOTRY
>>59246684Thanks anon, I needed cheering up
>>59246711Wrong pic anon?
>>59246726This board lacks someone of this charismatic caliber to BTFO of schizos. /vt/ remains laughing stock
>>59246426I'm adding this to my gudgepost folder
>>59246825Shiori also doesn't really enjoy streaming or games that much and prefers making edited content so I think she might have been having her preconceptions about what a typical holo girl does clouding her
>>59246820Not really, no, they've mostly gone well from what I remember
>>59246684>pleasant and apolitical>tries to start shit with everyone unprovokedEveryone in IdolEN has been reclining ever since.
>>59246781Anon, being pleasant is a behaviour thing, it's like calling someone shouting being an opinion
>>59246484>>59246726qrd?
>>59246795what a sexpest
>>59246795Get this shit off of /#/ man I am too exhausted to think about sexpests.
>>59246820No it hasn't and you should really stop trusting grimniggers
>>59246836>Didn't it get 1/2 the total CCV of the entire HLZNTL projectI don't know if you are trying to defend the stream or attack it but whatever is your intention, what came out was grim as fuck.HLZNTL is the project that had Mel and Choco pretty much on 3 views for a big part of it, if you are comparing whatever on EN to it you are pretty much saying>it underperformed hard
>>59246879
>>59246640>apoliticalNigga pretending that Fuwamoco is not a thing.
>>59246820Kiara is actually a great shill.
>>59246795nijicucks are so pathetic LOL
I am the most sane /u/fag and I hate that we will never get a several days long offcollab and offpako by shioraven so I can fantasize about how much lesbian sex they are having
>>59245917Meh, the trouble is that when they showed up, the non-vtubers reaction was to first try and leech their popularity, and then when they realized the doors were closed they all pivoted in the opposite direction and collectively dumpstered the hobby with whatever reason they wanted to come up with. The hilarity of the "muh parasocial idol culture" criticism is that every goddamn content creator and influencer on the planet cultivates exactly that kind of fanbase, yet those same people have the gall to declare this hobby as uniquely immoral for it? Nevermind shit like how Gura existing at all immediately set off the "muh pedos" angle, making it impossible to ever start a reasoned argument when their brains are bricked with "the only conceivable reason to like Gura is because you're a pedo" brainrot.Did everyone just collectively memoryhole that one male Vtuber getting chain dumpstered for daring to...*checks notes* perform at a convention?
>>59242775NTA but what's so weird about a youtube curator targeting specific people they simply don't like? It;s not like it doesn't happen all the time.
>>59246946Extrapolate on this, you fucking bonsai.
>>59246795a holostar would've gotten crucified for doing a single of these things
>>59245819Is that going to be okay for China? Is it only the dragon model that they despised?
>>59246773Popular fleshtubers don't even get sponsors from American brands, at least not the gaming based ones. Like your most typical sponsors for youtubers are stuff like Mascaped, Proxy services, other Mobage (Raid Shadow Legends), and maybe gaming related companies like Razer or Redbull. The ones that get actual sponsors are usually fashion based or lifestyle based, like makeup youtubers or fashion youtubers.
>>59246937>HLZNTL is the project that had Mel and ChocoBro it had Towa and Botan and Shalashaska Kuroe in it, I'm talking about the 40k total CCV for the OW2 thing.Compared to the 20k for the FGO thing with none of the build up and 1/5th the roster, it ain't bad
>>59246937/#/ can't do simple addition, more news at 11
>>59246820The only real shilling disasters have been Gura, because she makes it really obvious if she doesn't care about whatever she's shilling.
>>59246825I recall some other anon mentioned earlier on that the other indies didn’t really like her cause her content is old vtuber style or something.
>>59246758Elirafag...
>>59246820The only one I can think of that was a disaster was the one that got postponed because everyone, including Jenma, overslept.
>>59246836It's Fate, anon. Fate Grand Order.
>>59246383NijiEN is not going for a merge anytime soon.The EN branch is the last thing they can show to investors to show they're expanding into foreign markets. And the investors are too retarded to look into NijiKR or NijiID or god-forbid NijiIN, so current Nijisanji investors think that because JP was successful, they debuted NijiEN.If someone that's a shareholder starts asking pointed questions about potentially opening an ID branch of Nijisanji you will see them sweat their balls off.
>>59245862Assuming Gura isn't actually busy/anemic/pregnant/etc, her current level of activity is kinda returning to her pre-holo form of being a depressive and infrequent streamer that was popular for her shitposts and singingThat she ended up being such a frequent and popular streamer for her first year or so in hololive is an anomaly in her adult career
>>59246795For what it's worth the "vesper sexpest" thing is mostly a vt shitpost unlike the luca sexpest thing which is something that actually happens
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>49,393: Suisei (Hololive)>42,422: Kanae (Nijisanji)>42,109: Aqua (Hololive)>28,375: Pekora (Hololive)>19,673: Lauren (Nijisanji)>19,004: Hajime (Hololive)>18,837: Shigure Ui (Indie)>18,315: Watame (Hololive)>17,370: Koyori (Hololive)>16,717: Korone (Hololive)>16,695: NeruMero (Indie)>16,597: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>16,341: Lize (Nijisanji)>16,175: QueueTan (Indie)>15,624: Fubuki (Hololive)>13,770: Mio (Hololive)>13,632: Chiroru (Indie)>12,157: Lui (Hololive)>11,719: VSPO (VSPO)>11,001: Nozomi (Nijisanji)>10,804: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)>10,666: Luna (Hololive)>10,245: Hibari (Nijisanji)>10,077: Kanade (Hololive)>10,057: Hinano (VSPO)Gold for Suisei with Shiraken, besting Kanae outfit reveal with AquaPex getting bronze and, in the sidelines, Cat-Chiroru scoring one against Chiroru
>>59247019I will never forget her asking about rolling for the cunny character of a game where you get her automatically
>>59241205Why are hoomans like this
>>59247019That one with Kronii and Kiara that Kiara slept through was definitely a disaster
>>59246895In the end no one gave a fuck and Rin started collabing with Hakka right after tanking her numbers
>>59246788Lmao I didnt even notice she's on a 3w+ break atm, why did she say anything?
>>59247043You mean>FATE-OH, GURAUND OARDAH
>>59246977>Did everyone just collectively memoryhole that one male Vtuber getting chain dumpstered for daring to...*checks notes* perform at a convention?To be fair everyone thought the ticket costed 100 bucks or something and the memes were pretty good
>>59247027We need more Shiori x Flayon art!