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GRIM
>>59208256check if koyori overworked herself to death
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae1BV8Suk0A
Disgusting cow tits.
>>59208295Recent clip numbers>>59168137>>59168158>>59168183>>59168208>>59168233
So is Fzero a buff if Mori can be outside of her timeslot and still be this "high"
>>59208404chopped off etc etc
If you could travel 10 years into the future and access the internetwhat would be the first thing you checked out in regards to vtubing?imagine checking out your oshi's youtube channel and not finding anything
>>59208256Scour twitter for graduation announcements and look for reactions in the archives.
I notice that Cover is starting to focus more on the SEA market this year compared to 2022. HoloMeet has attended more SEA conventions compared to NA conventions.
It took 2 hours of watching this stream for me to realize why this VN looks nostalgic to me.It's literally the first VN I ever played on my shitty ass college laptop.
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *>72,951: Mumei (Hololive)>58,664: Korone (Hololive)>50,335: Miko (Hololive)>37,551: Mito (Nijisanji)>36,298: Koyori (Hololive)>30,491: Marine (Hololive)>28,903: Chiroru (Indie)>27,404: Pekora (Hololive)>26,702: Botan (Hololive)>25,790: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>25,765: Suisei (Hololive)>21,949: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>20,998: Subaru (Hololive)>20,911: Ange (Nijisanji)>18,008: Raden (Hololive)>16,955: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)>16,908: Fuwamoco (Hololive)>16,743: Koyori (Hololive)>16,072: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)>15,690: Amamiya (Nijisanji)>15,596: Salome (Nijisanji)>14,946: QueueTan (Indie)>14,818: Met (VSPO)>13,697: Hajime (Hololive)>13,378: Tachibana (VSPO)>13,267: QueueTan (Indie)>13,246: Noel (Hololive)>12,830: NeruMero (Indie)>12,727: Lamy (Hololive)>12,357: Luna (Hololive)>11,673: Okayu (Hololive)>11,496: Matsuri (Hololive)>10,563: Nui (Nijisanji)>10,359: Kanade (Hololive)>10,309: Polka (Hololive)
>>59208079honestly had a kek
>>59208420More like Advent is a failure that people bounced back to their senpais
>>59208460Porn
>>59208460>the first thing you checked out in regards to vtubing?Nothing at allIf I knew the future I'd probably just kill myselfI fucking abhor the concept of knowing things before they happen, and setting myself into a permanent, unavoidable fateAs long as I don't know the future, I can change it
>>59208488>SEPTEMBER 2023 GOLDS1) Aqua (Hololive) - 45,789 - Apex2) Iroha (Hololive) - 64,229 - Outfit Reveal3) Miko (Hololive) - 82,404 - Minecraft4) Marine (Hololive) - 51,829 - Parasocial5) Pekora (Hololive) - 48,521 - Armored Core 66) Subaru (Hololive) - 106,673 - Oozora Police Minecraft7) Hololive (Hololive) - 63,855 - 6th Anniversary8) Botan (Hololive) - 95,311 - Birthday Live9) Kanade (Hololive) - 110,230 - Debut Stream10) Raden (Hololive) - 129,772 - Debut Stream11) Rion (Nijisanji) - 65,412 - Personality Test (w/ Mito, Kuzuha, Toya & others)12) Hajime (Hololive) - 47,019 - Karaoke Stream13) Hololive (Hololive) - 58,901 - Blue Journey14) Chiroru (Indie) - 42,314 - Hanshin Tigers vs Yomiuri Giants15) NeruMero (Indie) - 37,114 - Genshin Impact Update Watchalong16) Lui (Hololive) - 33,478 - Outfit Reveal17) Okayu (Hololive) - 80,549 - Minecraft (w/ Fubuki, Mio, Laplus, Lui)18) Kronii (Hololive) - 58,935 - 3D Showcase19) Subaru (Hololive) - 54,746 - SMOK Lie Detector20) Miko (Hololive) - 41,305 - Soul Calibur 621) Hajime (Hololive) - 53,912 - Clubhouse Games 51 (w/ Raden)22) Lauren (Nijisanji) - 169,412 - 3D Debut23) Pekora (Hololive) - 93,167 - Human Rabbitality Project24) Mumei (Hololive) - 72,951 - 3D Showcase>PER COMPANY20x: Hololive2x: Indie, Nijisanji>PER STREAMER2x: Hajime, Hololive, Miko, Pekora, Subaru1x: Aqua, Botan, Chiroru, Kanade, Iroha, Kronii, Lauren, Lui, Marine, Mumei, NeruMero, Okayu, Raden, Rion>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY185x: Hololive63x: Nijisanji10x: Indie5x: VSPO4x: Neo Porte>PER STREAMER59x: Pekora22x: Miko17x: Marine10x: Subaru9x: Hololive, Nijisanji8x: Toya6x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Suisei5x: Yashiro4x: Chiroru, Fuwa, Hal, Iroha, Mio, Okayu, Shiina, Towa3x: Leos, Lui, NeruMero, Koyori2x: Aki, Flare, Fubuki, Hajime, Hinano, Ibrahim, Korone, Lamy, Maimoto, Salome, Shion, Tsukasa, Watame1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Botan, Chloe, Choco, Fuwamoco, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Hibari, Himawari, Ina, Kaede, Kanade, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Lize, Mel, Mito, Mori, Mumei, Mysta, Noel, Nose, Nozomi, Nui, Polka, Ponto, Qpi, Raden, Rikiichi, Rion, Roco, Ryushen
4K DORYAAAAAAA
>>59208468>types twitter/x into the search bar>this site doesn't exist anymorewhat now?
>>59208460check if they finally made AI companions viable and download my oshi's version
It's so over
>>59208479The NA con circuit is only just starting up, in terms of Anime cons.Anime cons are a cold weather thing in America, general "nerd cons" are for the warm weather months
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY *>9/24 DAILY TALLY72,951: Mumei (Hololive)16,908: FuwaMoco (Hololive)9,265: Bijou (Hololive)7,187: Luca (Nijisanji)6,471: Ina (Hololive)5,906: Mori (Hololive)5,536: Nerissa (Hololive)5,227: Sonny (Nijisanji)>EN GOLDS FOR SEPTEMBER 20231) Mumei (Hololive) - 21,874 - Unarchived Karaoke2) Luca (Nijisanji) - 28,501 - NijiMelody Relay3) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 12,142 - It Takes Two4) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 11,690 - FuwaMoco Morning5) Bijou (Hololive) - 11,307 - Elden Ring6) Amelia (Hololive) - 26,831 - Outfit Reveal7) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 15,476 - Advent Minecraft8) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 10,735 - FuwaMoco Morning9) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 21,257 - Advent Japanese Class10) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 22,406 - Karaoke Stream11) Gura (Hololive) - 37,393 - Outfit Reveal12) Mori (Hololive) - 13,093 - Unarchived Karaoke13) Ina (Hololive) - 16,524 - 3rd Anniversary14) Gura (Hololive) - 26,610 - Myth Anniversary Uno15) Gura (Hololive) - 21,335 - 3rd Anniversary16) Kyo (Nijisanji) - 13,671 - 2.0 Debut17) Fauna (Hololive) - 50,623 - 3D Showcase18) Kronii (Hololive) - 58,935 - 3D Showcase19) Mumei (Hololive) - 11,123 - WolfQuest20) Shiori (Hololive) - 9,336 - Minecraft21) Mori (Hololive) - 13,029 - Super Smash Bros (w/ FuwaMoco)22) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 21,156 - The Backrooms (w/ Fubuki)23) Ren (Nijisanji) - 8,580 - Unarchived Karaoke24) Mumei (Hololive) - 72,951 - 3D Showcase>PER COMPANY21x: Hololive3x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER7x: FuwaMoco3x: Gura, Mumei2x: Mori1x: Amelia, Bijou, Fauna, Ina, Kronii, Kyo, Luca, Ren, Shiori>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)61p: FuwaMoco23p: Bijou20p: Mumei16p: Mori15p: Gura11p: Fauna8p: Amelia, Kronii, Luca6p: Baelz, Ina5p: Kyo, Ren, Shiori3p: Enna, IRyS, Nerissa, Pomu, Sonny1p: Kiara, Kotoka, Meloco, Uki
>>59208256Weather pekochan has taken over the world or not
>>59208479I mean Singapore by itself makes up around 37% of hololive english viewers.
lasagna graph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAr2lHZLNyU
>>59208584Unironically the most likely outcomeGod knows most companies don't lose 40% profitability in a quarter or less and come out the other end swinging by the decade's end
>>59208657>2023 EN GOLDS>PER COMPANY200x: Hololive63x: Nijisanji3x: Holostars1x: Idol>PER STREAMER24x: Fauna, Gura23x: Mori21x: Mumei17x: IRyS15x: FuwaMoco, Ina14x: Baelz, Kronii, Mysta11x: Amelia9x: Kiara, Vox5x: Bijou4x: Pomu, Ren, Selen, Shu3x: Luca, Nerissa, Nina, Shiori2x: Alban, Finana, Hololive English, Ike, Wilson1x: Bandage, Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Kyo, Luxiem, Millie, Petra, Regis, Roca, Rosemi, Sonny, Vesper>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)233p: Fauna177p: Mori172p: Ina166p: Mumei159p: IRyS143p: FuwaMoco135p: Baelz129p: Gura109p: Kronii105p: Mysta93p: Kiara91p: Amelia75p: Luca74p: Vox58p: Bijou37p: Shu32p: Shiori31p: Nerissa, Selen28p: Pomu24p: Nina21p: Ren19p: Ike18p: Enna17p: Sonny15p: Fulgur, Uki13p: Finana, Millie11p: Axel10p: Alban, Elira, Hololive English, Wilson9p: Vesper7p: Kotoka, Regis6p: Bandage, Kyo, Rosemi5p: Flayon, Luxiem, Petra, Roca4p: Bringer, Magni3p: Bettel, Hakka, Poko2p: Meloco1p: Maria, Shinri, Pippa
>>59208256 Compare Marine vs Shakira total music numbersCheck Pekoland map in the worldCheck Noel's international beef&dairy brandCheck if Flare got to 1,5 mil subs yet
>>59208450
>No bro, trust me, so long as you have a good MV it's impossible NOT to get good numbers on a holo song
My favorite part of small corpo room reviews is how most of them are filled to the brim with Hololive
>>59208766Hey tally anon, check this and see if the points are accuratehttps://litter.catbox.moe/cqn1tg.xlsx
>>59208557If you believe that some kind of determism sets in if you know the future then it’s really only a difference in knowledge, no? There’s still a set future regardless, it just feels more free because you aren’t aware of what that set future is
>>59208636That's weird separating con circuit into cold and warm weather thing
>>59208907People just don't like Flare.
>>59208557knowing the future is the only way to achieve heaven
Mori tally'd
Bae probably will only get 50k max
Why are they like this?
>>59208907j-jesas
MORI 5K DORYAAAA
Can Mumei save EN once again?
>>59208479America is about to enter Civil war, so it makes sense to avoid that place for fear of getting randomly shotTaiwan is about to be invaded by China, so it makes sense to avoid that place for fear of getting randomly bombedEurope is about to be overrun by immigrants, so it makes sense to avoid that place for fear of getting randomly muggedThefefore SEA is the best and safest place right now
>>59208907Shouldn't be an elf.
>>59208931It's easier for the kinds of people who would go to conventions to go outside in the coldConsider the kinds of people who go to anime conventions, and then consider them in the summer heat, and there ya go, ya know?Anime NYC 2021 line hell... all those cute cosplayers in short skirts freezing out there for hours... what a time
>>59208730Grim. Give us back the pride of being an EN fans like in 2021.
>>59208479I don't see why not since Covid is over.
>>59209024She spent all her buffs yesterday
>>59208907Good MV, great musicPiss poor promotion though since she's not thick-skinned enough to shill herself shamelessly.Just flare in a nutshell
>>59208976Clown fanbase is so fucking annoying. Everytime this dude stream with his twin the FWMC begging art start appearing on Twitter again
>>59209024yes, she already cemented herself as the top of EN
>>59208907I can see why she gets along with IRyS
>>59208931isn't it more about double dipping? people who go to some of those general cons are likely to go to anime cons if they don't have close dates/overlap within each other
>>59209133Please don't overlap clown fanbase with BVTM and okbuddyhololive.
>>59208927If there isn't determinism, everything you can learn about the future is useless because your own actions are likely to change itIf there is determinism, you gain literally nothing by knowing the future because nothing you do will ever change anythingThere is absolutely no outcome where having knowledge of the future is good, with the sole exception of limited foresight in a deterministic world where you and you alone are set outside of the determinism that holds the rest of the world, allowing for your actions to change the future and avert bad outcomes
SHE’S DOING IT
>>59209273She already did it, just dipped back under because this game is basically car APEX.
>>59208907Not enough to overcome the brown debuff
>>59208907BrutalHow much money has she wasted at this point with good MVs
>>59209304
I can't believe Ren and Kyo let Mumei have the gold yesterday, they could easily do a double date karaoke and get 80k
Mumei will reach 940k this week.IRyS will reach 970k by the end of october.Soon.
>>59209024Nah, it'll be JP Listener-san who will tune to Fuwamoco Morning 13hrs from now
>>59209273At this point I'll take whatever 5k+ streams I can get.
>>59209262But IT is his fanbase. All the sisters doing these kind of art livepost this dude stream
>>59209273Explain the numbers on Mori's stream.
>>59209133>be clown>pretty much stay in your lane for most of your existence in Holostars>the only time you ever cross that is when one of the girls is literally collab begging in your chat, so it's whatever>you have a niche and built it up, and your fans like the interactions that sometimes happen with your twin brother>EN3 drops>there are twin girls>you and your brother's existence are now juiced by collab beggars to an unbelievable degree, merely by the consequence of your own birthThat can't feel good
>>59208907When you think about it EN specifically has a pretty good floor for music releases. Nothing below 200k besides Kiara’s recently released KR version of DO U, and that will likely claw its way to 200k in a month
time to 15M:>Marine Bishopai 55 Days 17 HoursMarine Maribako 102 Days 5 HoursMori Gura Q 144 Days 8 HoursGura Mori King 148 Days 14 HoursMori Rip 172 Days 16 HoursSuisei Phony 183 Days 21 HoursOchame Kinou 207 Days 5 HoursLaplus Kamippoi 218 Days 2 HoursCan You Do the hololive (BTS ver.) 290 Days 4 HoursAyame Goodbye Sengen 294 Days 1 HourSuisei Mori Getcha 299 Days 2 HoursSuisei Stellar Stellar 343 Days 15 HoursSuisei Ghost 411 Days 19 HoursGura Reflect 472 Days 1 HourSuisei w/ Fantasy Saga Jihen 565 Days 20 HoursPekora Disco Seijin 668 Days 15 Hours
>>59208105To be clear I don't dislike Nerissa at all and hope she figures things out. Covers and originals are very hit and miss, I mean look how strong Mori started and she's had a fair amount of misses and struggled to keep people interested in her music at times. It'll be very hard if that's all she's got. Usually the successful music members have a solid core audience that are interested in something more then just their music. If she can turn things around with some good karaoke streams, as one example, that would be huge boon to her build a core audience.
>>59209397I want to have sex with Fuwawa so bad holy shit
>>59208481>19 years later and you're posting about numbers on an e-whore boredWhat a world.
Junkids.... your hero...
Now I feel bad for shitting on grimgang when Advent first debut...
>>59209421He should call out this beggars and tell them to fuck off. No sugarcoating
>>59209502I don'tthey deserve it
>>59209397This art is so good holy sex
>>59208910God damn, the merch is impressive enough already, the custom neon lights look amazing
>>59209500Who even watches Jun in here for this bait?
>>59209421you won't make me feel guilt over a homo, he fucked up in the first place for joining
>>59209568Pretty sure he already went out and said shit like>I am not a "senpai," stop calling me thatin regards to EN3, but I dunno if they took the hint
>>59209424I feel like Myth helped make a lot of EN fans actually interested in the music of the Holos from the offset when that isn't always the case with JP fans, since HoloJP wasn't exactly smashing out covers and orisongs from the get-go in the way they do now.
>>59209578But they were right though, EN3 couldn't even save HoloEN. It's over.
>>59209444My impression of Nerissa is that she doesn't seem very interested in being a streamer or putting out interesting stream content. Maybe that's okay, and every party is happy so long as she puts out a cover every couple of weeks.
>>59209678nahthey're fags and deserve to get shit on whenever they pop up
>>59209444I don't think she cares. She's one of the few hires that actually had original music before Hololive. Releasing music to a small audience shows it's something you care about, rather than it's something you're doing to make easy money.
>>59209500Married debuff
So Shiori's whole "respect my collab choices" was actually about her not being that outgoing in collabing with her senpai?
>>59209708Everything she's said since seems to suggest that
>>59209708looks like it, even more when people get a little crazy once collab ban ends and we already know she is not that much of a hololive fan no reason to force friendships this soon
>>59209708I've been saying this since debut and to be fair, a good chunk of anons agreed, but the shitposters didn't wanna listen
>>59209708seems so... unless
>>59209708It was about collabing with her 2view friends but did a 180 when the internet literally caught on fire and hasn't said a thing about collabs since.
>[Random MocoRissa Interactions]Trash: Sorry Moco-chan, this jump is really difficult....Mococo: Are You Kidding Me?Rissa: Hey girls, how are you girls doing?Rissa: I'm not doing too hot lately. I don't know what to stream. Can I try to play some old games like you girls?Mococo: Make sure you go watch some fireflies before you do it.
>>59209692Get fucked nigga. We're here to stay. Just look at the current numbers right now.
So what did we learn from the last thread anons?
>>59208382God I hate kikeks so much
Is there a reason why Holo is getting subpar music numbers aside from Marine? Even Suisei is not exempt from this curse.
>>59209824nahget your wack-ass sped shit outta here
>>59209115Piss poor promotion my ass, she shilled it at the end of her 70k concert. This is not a promotion orivkem
>>59209648Yeah, that's on twitter. He should do it on his stream where his viewers actually watch him. Just say I'm not hololive or something and make it clear that his branch is clearly separate.
>>59209708what I remember her actually saying is "I will take a long time watching to see if someone is actually someone I want to collab with before I actually do so", which could just mean "hey don't be surprised if I don't collab with people"
>>59209842Pagpag connoisseurs are actually proud of Bijou getting 5k with AC6
>>59209824The only good kikek is a dead kikek
>>59209883I unironically think that when Suisei and Mori were at their height (mid-late 2021) they were lifting up the entirety of the holobox when it came to music because it was feeding back to songs from other Holos. Whereas Marine's views don't seem to circulate back through the box because it's all TikTok tourists.
Built for being cummed inside of (for being came into? for being cummed in? one of those is right and I'm gonna do it)
>>59209329maybe a million USD at this point
>>59209782Nigger they are still clinging onto the not your friend shitpost, the truth doesn't matter to those kinds of shitposters
>>59209409I checked their leedit history they don't post on holostars at all, mostly hololive and okbuddy
>>59208702proof next thread?
>>59209934>Yeah, that's on twitter.You'd be shocked at how many talents think that twitter matters
>>59210102He's confusing superchat value with audience share
Some of the other EN girls who are decent at games should play F-Zero 99 for at least one stream. They'd get better numbers than what Mori is getting and Mori is getting pretty good numbers (for her).
>>59209472nta but what do you call vshojos?also is it possible to be a female online entertainer without being an ewhore?
>>59208907Blaming it on lack of promotion is cope, burning tens of thousands of dollars on a MV that flops is more likely to happen than it going viral.
>>59208481Boy you are oldMost people's first vn around these parts is fate
>>59210164>also is it possible to be a female online entertainer without being an ewhore?That's what good Vtubers are, yes, don't let the fags try and trick you into thinking otherwise
>>59209883Skiru isu
[Bad News]https://twitter.com/hirotaka0125/status/1706130072594497859
>>59210164Vshitshow, I call them vshitshow.
>>59210164pekora is a big female online entertainer and she doesn't ewhore
>>59209883tiktok is one hell of a drug for numbersGura said it before a long time ago, she knew that tiktok is the best platform to advertise your music
>>59210283>hitotaka0125
>>59210283Can someone tell me this is not a cumscareI don't remember the account ID numbers
>>59210381It's in the 17's, it's definitely not
>>59209883Suisei is doing very strong for herself soiaree did preety well it's just that she dosent have additional buffs like marine
>>59210381It's always a cumpscare anon
7.5
>>59210419>>59210427i took the risk and was rewarded wellfortune favors the bold
>>59208907>>59209115Flare makes a lot of music that people aren't interested in hearing from her. I'm confident if she actually made a cool song it'd do much better.
>>59210512She's not cool...
>>59210512Shame about her 'tism
>>59210283UOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
>>59207185>Why not blame FWMC for giving us a 4 channel gen instead of the usual 5?>That fifth member could've been a retro gamerAre you implying Fuwawa is trash?
>>59210283I know it's part of her design but the gills are a turn off ngl.
>>59210030I don't think most of Suisei or Mori's music viewers cared about the rest of the box.
On one hand, if someone made a new account for Vox's peak cumpscaring tweets, it could start working even better than it used toBut it just doesn't feel the same if you aren't hitting someone with the original thing, it never felt good to get Towa Baby'd by an alt account built for storing Towa Babys in new tweet URLsIf you don't hit someone with the real thing, did you even cumpscare them?
>>59210512Seriously though why the fuck does she hate being a cool dark elf so much?
>>59210283I'll goom then.
>>59210157Do SG even make up 37% of total SC?Last chart showed at least 65%+ coming from NASG population is very small
>>59210617I mean, Mococo is like 100x cuter so yes
>>59210544Ad Truck and Stardust Song are very coolShe needs more songs like that
>>59210512the image she projects of herself with her music is not one that really appeals to peopleI don't know if she deserves some kind of props for pushing ahead down that same path over and over despite how much people don't want it, but it's definitely numbers anathema
>>59210648To be fair she lost the lottery being a filthy knife ear in the first place
>>59210617No, they both are!
>>59210617That goes without saying
Shitskin knife ears is a total failure, she doesn't fit and can't compare to the success of her genmates. She desperately tries to be a singer and want to be treated as such, but her singing is just boring and mediocre. Not good enough to leave an impression, but also not bad enough to become a meme like Noel. All she does is chase an impossible dream by keep throwing away her life savings. But no matter how much she wastes her money on external things like high quality MV, song or mixing, it can't cover her shitty mediocre singing and won't save her music number either.
[HoloCosplayer News]https://twitter.com/ruuna_070/status/1706114291315986831This will do numbersI'm starting to understand why my uncle loves Thai women so much and keeps going on vacation there
>>59210617Fuwawa is not utilizing her skill set properly, she should focus on sexy ASMR
It smells like FUCKING CAVERN WORKERS IN HERE TODAY
>>59210634If that was true I don't think Suisei or Mori's collab songs on other channels would have done well. Like, look how many views Beat Eater got compared to any of Reine's other collabs, for example
[Nerissa news] She fucking loves Mococo and Biboo
Ela please play block game again
>>59210617I mean, Fuwawa shines just for being the one backseating Mococo doing everything.I think this new solo stream could be the place to having a personality outside of that.
>>59210887Who doesn't? Good taste
>>59210887Fuwawa...
>>59210617they could have just had a 5th channel with a 6th person, I don't think FWMC needed to preclude that
>>59210648>Seriously though why the fuck does she hate being a cool dark elf so much?Maybe she wants people to like her for who she is and what she wants to be rather than something she knows she's not?
>>59210625the gills are the best part you coward
>>59210924She sees her as a mature sister like her aka sex
>>59210924Fuwawa needs her disgusting fat cow tits chopped off, it's unsightly how they just bounce all over the place without a care in the world. She should be like her sister Mococo.
>>59209660That makes sense. When you've got Mori and Gura in the debut gen music comes a much bigger factor for why people got invested
>>59210798Shit opinion, her voice is great
>>59210949Sounds like tranny talk
>>59210972Does she always have to be gross?
>>59208295We need more vtubers with giant cow tits.
>>59211015that's likeliterally the exact opposite of that, anon
Kari-chan kakkoii
>>59208907>so long as you have a good MVnot visually mesmerizing animation, I don't even want to watch it twicethe song suck, flare singing bad, vocal tuning badThe only good thing about it is the first 10 seconds. That intro melody/sequence is kinda beautiful and catchyAlso if you are trying to shill Flare orisong, you did a perfect job. I actually listened to it because you were posting an intriguing question about this song/mv.
>>59211023This is a flattie lover thread, sir
>>59208481Oji-san ...
>>59211023ID4 will give it to you
>>59210949>>59210648if you watched her on debut she tried really hard to lean into that character for a pretty solid period of time and it basically mindbroke her with how much it wasn't working outinstead of graduating she just said fuck it I'll do what I want instead. And here she is. It's doing okay, even if the numbers are still kinda grim
>>59211018She didn't say anything about sex, she just said she'd like to get tea with her and talk
[Nerissa new] Cover next Saturday, is in English.
MUMEI STREAM IS CANCELLED, ITS OVER
So why did Mikeneko give up on Nazuna?
>>59210916>Fuwawa shines just for being the one backseating Mococo doing everything.>solo stream could be the place to having a personality outside of thatThis.I've been saying this forever.I was very happy when they decided to do solo fuwawa
>>59211195Reading is the gameplay
AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IT'S MOOMOVER
>>59211225didn't get numbersit's not like there was a vshojo box for her to leech onso why bother
>>59211176>>59211262aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Shut down the branch.
What is deco nina?
THIS IS THE PRICE WE PAY, HOOMANSTHIS IS THE PRICE FOR MUMEI STARTING HER 3D SHOWCASE STREAM EARLY AND ON TIMETHE MOTHER OF ALL DELAYSWILL YOU SURVIVE?????
ROI status?
Moom...
>>59211138>she just said she'd like to get tea with her and talkHey sure.
>>59211301Peko-chan, I beg you, have mercy on them
So what now?
>>59211293Literally the only stream I was going to watch today…recommend me an anime to binge watch
>>59211293Reminder people were shitting on Fauna for not streaming because she was busy
>>59211367Deco*27
>enter numbercuck thread>save the big massive cow tits>drop a stinky brown log on the floor>close the thread
>>59210667I don't know about exact percentages but SGD does make up a surprisingly large amount of superchats by value simply because of how strong the currency is
the monkey paw curls and we have no moom today
>>59211225>why did Mikeneko give upMiko and give up. Is probably a better duo than FWMC
>>59211432Have you watched Gunbuster/Gunbuster2 yet?
>>59211379its underrated and people apparently dont know what good music is
https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1706135732539338761IT'S OVER
>>59209883Suisei is doing fine, she still has the #1 undisputed collective monthly/weekly music views out of all music vtubers with the amount of music she has.
>>59211023theres a bunch of them and they are 1views
>>59211301>holoEN beatin NijiEN>peko sanji not happywhat is happening
>>59211301NIJISEETHE
>>59211481Don't shit on the floor sir.
>>59211293lmfao jesus christ what could cover possibly be having her do that has a due date for the day after her 3D showcase
>>59211432Last Exile
>>59211536GRIM
>>59211541Where are you tracking this? And I assume it's just Youtube?
wasn't Bae's 3D today?
>>59210875That doesn't mean their viewers care for the rest of the box, just that their viewers were willing to show up for a song they were in.
Grim numbers from holoen today
>>59211577Three options1: shit for the big group 3D showcase in October2: something regarding her Orisong3: literally schoolwork
>>59211577Bae said there'll be a Council announcement soon (which is why they're collabing this week)Probably related to that
Nerissa Mumei collab this week
Nerissa will collab with Moom next week
Nerissa Mumei collab on Thursday. Zatsu apparently? God can this woman literally not spend half her schedule collabing
>>59211621Bro?
>>59211598Yes, youtube music charts
>>592114323gatsu no lion/March comes in like a lionIt's a funny light-hearted show that won prizes over One Piece in some occasions
>>59211621Nope, it's next week, the only back to back one was kronii's and fauna because last week was a holiday
>>59211518>people apparently dont know what good music isFlare: Please educate yourself. About good musicIs Flare the JP Finana?
[Bird news] Mumei Nerissa collab next week, emo talk.
>>59211023
>>59211649God I hate kikeks so much
>>59211667>>59211669>>59211671>>59211715wtf so many jailbirds? it's literally a members stream
>>59211671The loathsome
>>59211508>>59211586Thanks, I’ll check them out
>>59211685based 3-gatsugod
>>59211671>doesn't collab>why is she even part of hololive if she doesn't collab>collabs alot>God can this woman literally not spend half her schedule collabingI hate you niggers so fucking much
>>59210875Kek, holo musicbox vs tiktok
surprising amount of jailbirds in the numbers thread, all things considered.How you all doing? Good? Having fun? I hope so.
>>59211747Got the info out of hlgg, I refuse to give that woman money
>>59211747Jokes on you, I'm just parroting what I learned elsewhere.
>>59211660What is there to announce for Council? They already have the 3D showcase and merch
>>59209883Marine is the only one competent at tapping into markets outside of the tiny vtuber audience
>>59210744Which Hololive girl would Flare have been a better fit as?
>>59211802Group song probably
>>59211803>the tiny vtuber audiencecompared to fukkin what, the NFL?
>>59211788>parroting what I learned elsewhere.Not even making shit up with your own creativity /#/ is declining
>nerissa collabs a lot>STOP COLLABING>shiori doesn't collab with anyone>DO SOME COLLABS
>>59210872This is a dwarf threadTree huggers go and stay go
>>59211774>>59211860THERE IS A FUCKING MIDDLE GROUND. YOU DO NOT SEE ANYONE BITCHING AT MUMEI COLLABING YOU FUCKING COCK GOBBLER. EVERY SINGLE FUCKING WEEK SHE HAS LIKE 3-4 COLLABS AND MAYBE 1 OR 2 PUBLIC STREAMS SOLO.
>>59211776Actually a bit grim. Was there something wrong with the cover or is the ID debuff really just that strong?
>>59211840people who listen to music
The cringe meter is off the chart
>>59211840YesThat's the main difference between the JP market and the en market, it's not mainstream in en
>>59211843Normal people don't do that anon
>>59211541KAF is doing pretty well too
>>59211782>>59211788you're all just using /#/ as a secondary thread
>>59211878Seems like she's just happy to be in Hololive and is saying yes to everyone. Most collabs have been on others channels.
>>59211728Concerning lack of cleavage
Rissa love!
>>59211843If I want to shitpost I'll just maliciously twist the words of someone in an ongoing stream that not a lot of people here would be watching, it usually works a lot better.
>>59211878neck yourself retard, putting your text on all caps doesn't further your point
>>59211536>Both Fauna and Mumei cancelled streams today
What the fuck is a goofy moom
>>59211774I hate dumb hyperbolic retards so fucking much
>>59211919As do most people, which is why when the thread goes to shit people just fuck off instead of staying here posting anyway
>>59211814>Which Hololive girl would Flare have been a better fit as?NTA but I think this is an insanely hard question for anyone who has watched Flare quite a bit for yearsFlare is Flare. A cool black woman. Anything else isn't Flare. Too late to reimagine her to something else.
>>59211903Japan is a nation of over eighty million people and the absolute peak of Vtubing numbers in the land of the Rising Sun has been 400k (with EN audience support, to boot)
>>59211977it's like a moom, but more goofy.
>>59211919There's literally no such thing as a /#/ native.
>>59203672Cross-post, I know, but what's something "Interesting" Vtuber can do in EN market?
>>59211977"I'm gonna have commemorative sex tonight and can't stream"
Mumei is heading to an abortion clinicbut you didn't hear this from me
>>59211977She forgot about something that was due today (either cover or university related) and now needs to rush it
>>59211432Wave, Listen to MeI found it fun
>>59211958actually it's a good strategybut it requires you to watch stream so it's a bad strategy
>>59212028More like the land of the falling yen
Looks like ironmouse wins today woth 9.5k then lmfao
>>59212039>we're the United States of /vt/Melting pot...
>>59212028Anon the 400k stream is because the entire nation of Taiwan tuning in to see their Jesus live, it's not a Japan thing
>>59211895Man, JP branch just doesn't even care what these miscreants do, and I can't fathom why they just gave up/never cared.
>>59212048that abortion? me.
>>59211802Bae said it was a big special announcement, but that could mean anything (also just Council, not IRyS)
>>59212100I prefer the term crossroads of /vt/
>>59211918Lol, did a quick check and her #1 view source...
>>59208907>This is a 3rd, the generation of miracles member
MORI GOLD NUMBERGODS IT'S NOT OVER YET
Now that the dust has settled. Advent isn't that bad of an addition. It solves many of the issue with EN>restore CGDCT to the forefront of HoloEN>solve the dead hour with more streams>gave us an endurance streamer, something people have been asking forTheir failure is not being able to bring high number to HoloEN, but it's too much to ask them to restore HoloEN to pre-Covid. As for yuropoors, they can go fuck themselves
>>59208907No dance sequence, not fast-passed, so the tiktok thots who flock to Marine don't care, Quality MV or not.
>>59212146KEK
>>59212178Pretty much yeahThey don't solve the "Euro dead hours" but no one's jumping on that landmine
>>59208907No wonder she was a jealous bitch at Rushia when she got terminated.
>>59208907fine, I'll check it out give me 5 minutes
>>59212105Who do Taiwanbros mostly follow nowadays that Coco is gone? Don't say Haachama because she's gone too
>>59212197Every single Holo original is going to have a meme dance like Marine or Ui now, huh
>>59212005i'm actually a /lig/ refugee
>>59211932Cover gave her more of a Y, but not as much as it deserves.
>>59212028125 million, jesus it takes 2 seconds to google
>>59211955Novelites and jailbirds own this thread.
>>59212040the important thing is the pitch. It needs to be something where people can tell their friends, hey check it out this person is doing x, and the x has to be something interesting enough that their friend doesn't care who the person is, they want to watch because x sounds interestingthe JPs have been better at occasionally doing this, think about when they've done stuff that fits
>>59212175You love to see it
>>59212146Not that surprising. Suisei has Jakarta as her 2nd most listened city on Spotify, and wouldn't bet on it being lower on YT.
Alright, got here on time. I'm ready to moom.
>>59211671I'm telling you, this is the curse of hiring big fans, she wants to hang out with all the girls she watched before getting in.
>>59212100more like the grand bazaar
>>59212345And that's where you're wrong
>>59212138>Bae said it was a big special announcement, but that could mean anything (also just Council, not IRyS)Probably something disappointing like an original group song.
>>59212362Ha ha, yeah...
>>59212362
>>59212090KekYeah the economy is finally starting to bottom out after over three decades of being stuck in a holding pattern. And you can thank chinkflu for finally breaking it
>>59212362anon...
>>59212146SEAGODS can never stop winningThey'd rather watch Suisei than their own chuubas, very based desu
>>59209413It’s a racing Battle Royale. Like an Apex graph but each race is like 5 minutes. Same happened with Pekora’s.
>>59212249Usual top JPs like Suisei and Miko. For EN right now it's KroMei.>>/vt/thread/53096893#p53100411There's also that sticker poll from a con early this year but I don't have the pic
>>59212271My knowledge of Japan is literally locked to the Imperial Japanese era, please forgive me, I am a slut for the retardation of the IJA/N
>>59212362Hooman...
>>59212312MOOOOOOOOOOODS
>>59212409No anonchama, that's Kaf's viewership
>>59212397>>59212399>>59212401>>59212430Ahhh fuck let me just go kill myself
>>59212386>disappointing >like an original group song.Shit taste desu
>>59208907>mogged by the homos kek
>>59211432Jujutsu
>>59211919>you're all just using /#/ as a secondary threadName me a thread that is more multipurpose than /#/- can numberfag- can tribalfag- can post lewd- can have normal or controversial discussions, sometimes- the haven for discord raids- dox could stay for long depending on hours- "we love mori/kronii here"- can export baits to catalog- can work as mini /pol/- is a refugee center- is also uuu2, who2, baubau2- can also discuss homos, have more traffic than /mans/- can write your fanfic here
https://twitter.com/hirotaka0125/status/1706130072594497859
>>59212468>8 months agoDo you really
>>59212455Could I interest you in a child rock as a consolation prize?
>>59212468This is what Splatoon does to your algorithm, take note.
>>59212381Actually interesting. Wonder if it's a result of result of differential demographics using the two services, since Spotify has a cracked android API that I know thirdies love to use, or Spotify breaks up Japan into too many cities like it does the US whereas it just lumps ID into a big bucket.
>>59212489UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
>>59212255If they want easy views, yes. Other less crazy examples, both from the runt of EN: Holotori Dance and Do U. Both pulled good numbers, both have dance sequences.
>>59212501Rock good second place I guessSubbed to her after portal autism
>>59208636>>59209064The con season for this year is nearly over. NYCC and AnimeNYC are the last 2 big cons of the year. There are still a lot of smaller cons left but 80% of the cons for the year are already over.Anime Expo is the biggest anime con of the year and that's in July in 80-100 degree LA weather. Connect the world was held at the same time as the convention and last year they had a large Hololive booth at the convention itself.Fubuki, Risu, Kroni, Kiara, and Kobo were at Anime Boston in april this year. Last year all of EN (Myth + CouncilRys) + ID were at Crunchyroll Expo in August.
>>59212501Might as well since I already bought snacks for moomtime
>>59212040Find something reasonably unique and make an earnest effort:Make music Kanata stylePlay music Luna styleExcel at games Aqua styleQuality MC builds Flare styleRing fit karaoke Suisei styleLullaby ASMR Okayu styleMassive gaming endurance Korone styleRegional mukbang Pekora styleScience experiments Nene styleTravel vlog Polka styleSoothing night radio Lamy styleCultural enrichment Raden styleQuality art Ina styleQuality cooking Choco / Lui style
my retarded JP wife gonna save me from lonelinesshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8KaUwmB79k
>>59212500how about this then?
>>59212431Every NSFW part is completely covered, right?
>>59212526Looks like they break down JP and ID into different cities too. I don't think you can see a full breakdown in the spotify page though, someone might have a different site for it.
>No MoomsSo the dogs get cripple gold today?
akutan was playing apex at 4AM...
>>59212603>The con season for this year is nearly over.In the states maybe, in SEA con season just started and is going to last till Christmas
>>59209778She live tweeted every Council showcase and the ReGloss debuts.
>>59212603I'm excited for Anime Boston this year, I bet that they go again, it's a strong convention.Literally had to bust out spy gear shit to archive the panels for people here, but fucking hell it was fun to do it
>>59212640Yeah best hope the mods have the same thought
>>59212040simple answerEN version of JP first armyThey are the archetypes of vtubers' final evolutions or forms
>>59212697i thank you for your services anon, i enjoyed them
>>59212672they were always going to get cripple gold with fuwamoco morning
Lyrica, the kawaii sensitive genius is starting!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQyryEsQh24 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQyryEsQh24 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQyryEsQh24
>>59212632>12k views/day vs 30k views/dayflare wins what's your point?
>>59212672Ririka could get it
>>59212040unironically get gura to do something new. She's the only EN vtuber that can incline the scene in the west
>>59212790IT'S RIRIKA
>>59211927>Most collabs have been on others channels.This is why it's bad, no exposure from the other talent fanbase in your channel, but since it was bae ollie iofi , I can forgive her, don't want those shitter fanbase shitting on Nerissa's chat
>>59210821> Thai “women”
Sex with SNO
>>59212655Yea, my question is if Japan has so much higher listenership on YT Music for Suisei, I would have expected it + Taiwan to push Jakarta out of the top 5 list. However, I know in the US, Spotify doesn't round you off to the nearest metropolitan area or even somewhat notable city since I had a pet 2view who I'd show up in the top 5 for in my town of 50k people as a listener of 1. I wonder if Japan gets sliced up equally as small, which would let Jakarta find a place despite being 1/20th of the nominal viewership Suisei has in Japan.
Nerissa addressed some of the comments here, I am paraphrasingWhy 2 hours?>I feel I can only entertain for 2 hours and then struggle to find stuff to talk about.Why so many collabs?>My forte is talking and having a partner makes it easyMore solo streams>I like to do them as member streams because in public ones I find it hard to read and respond to chat, is too fast, and I usually tend to talk to myself. Now that debut month is over maybe is going to get easier.
>>59212869Hey remember when we asked what you wanted?
>>59212886I don't think there's a single EN I wouldn't have sex with
>>59212805Kek when Ririka get demoted to cripple tally?
>>59212805was Ririka finally demoted to the EN branch?
Mumei?
>>59212790Ok
>>59212632that's a whole branch collab song kek
>>59212415KroMei isn’t a real ship, anyone that watches streams knows that.
>>59212501I'm filtered by Fromsoft AND mecha slop so no thanks
>>59212909>I'm a shit streamerWhy was she hired
>>59212100>we're the United States of /vt/Both /vt/ and US are being infested by tranniesSame desu
>>59212925 (me) when did*
>>59212925>>59212928>demotedplease don't insult my wife that way, she's working very hard to qualify for her citizenship test so that she can finally move to the States and become my husband
>>59212144I prefer public use urinal
>>59212028you can make the same arguemnt for literally everythingtop twitch streamers are 2M ccv max with a population of 1B english speakers and 1B spanish
>>59212909Fuck this is actually activating my saviorfag instincts...
Devis should compete in cripple tally, they're like international branch
>>59212989NTA, keep seething fat cunt
>>59212790Lyrica, my beloved kawaii, sensitive, genius girl.
>>59212312Looks like an infected armpit
>>59213021You could easily do that, yes, which is why it's entirely fair to say that twitch streamers are not mainstream
>>59212909>I feel I can only entertain for 2 hours and then struggle to find stuff to talk about.so why the fuck are you a streamer???
>>59212673can't sleep without that demotion series adrenaline rush
>>59213018There are no women in this thread
>>59212909This is fake right?>My forte is talking about I struggle to find stuff to talk about?
https://twitter.com/harusakinodoka/status/1706130998575210556https://twitter.com/harusakinodoka/status/1706130998575210556https://twitter.com/harusakinodoka/status/1706130998575210556
>>59212625when does this onion sleep?
>>59213033nah kanade is just waiting for her first paycheck to get out of her shitty gook country
>>59213033Raden would win every single day she streams, it's not fair
>>59213076>2 hours is bad
>>59213033international language doko
>>59212680Yah I'm heading to AFA and SGCC this year
>>59213095but*>>59213103Why?
>>59213095Is what she feels, that after 2 hours she gets weaker or more boring, I don't know, woman mentality I guess
>>59212673oh fuck i forgot to check that today
>>59212909Well at least compensate it with fucking Karaoke stream / cover ori song upload
>>59213076>>59213095Have you actually noticed ANYONE carrying a stream for 2 hours straight with talking? It's usually auto-commentary, nothing original. It's very obvious she means original talking.
La+
>>59212625It's not fun when Baqua gets serious
>>59212909Nerissa should take notes from Mumei, who was an absolute wreck during her first few months
>>59211895>>59211953THE MOST
>>59213153Is HoloMeet coming to SGCC?
>>59213095She's been talking non stop for like 2 hours in her members stream and stopped for like 15 seconds to take a drink. I think she can talk forever, just not while playing a game.
>>59213180There is an English cover coming in a few days
>>59213033But Raden + Hajime are too japanese so they are in global tally.Then my wife Kanade, a rightful gook, can sweep every day
>>59213076This is a really dumb comment anon. Some of the biggest vtubers ever historically are 2-3hr long streamers. Suisei and Laplus are notorious for their 1hr long streams.Suisei unironically did 1hr long streams for like 6 months straight. Even Marine is typically a 2hr long streamer with extra time for SCs afterwards
>>59213181Shiori
>>59213108right nowimagine the smell
>>59212909Did she address the fact that she's Kiara's minion?
>>59212632>comparing Banger with Flare songwhat is he thinking
>>59212902If we're going by YT Music's standards, then even Tokyo is split into its different wards for the individual city statistics, and for some reason even Taipei does not exist in there. Maybe there are more than 1 city for Taiwan being counted too.
>>59213181https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS08-NZIkBE
>>59212683Still not a hololive fan she is just doing her reps to get there
>>59213280Why bring up something that's so obvious
>>59213280she did in fact have a Kiara masturbation session this stream, yes
>>59213124That's where you're wrong, last samurai chama....Hajime will be competitive, too.
>>59213252k great dipshit, you cited an exception. I can probably name a few others.Doesn't change the fact that's not the rule and it's not how Nerissa feels. Are you being dense on purpose?
>>59212909I swear every passing day she gets worse
>>59213076She basically had almost 0 stream experience compared to the rest of advent and even council. I think Mori is the only one who had a similar lack of experience when she debuted
do you prefer when a streamer grind ranked off-stream or they just have to stream all of their games?
>>59212909>I find it hard to read and respond to chat, is too fast,Is it really hard to pick one comment in the sea of emotes?
>>59212909appreciate the honesty from hermostly her shit gaming style and kiara antics have been filteringmaybe she'll figure it out soon and the karaoke gives her a nice confidence boost
>>59213318>>59213319Still not subscribing to her channel then
>>59213280Because is the only stream going on at the morning while she does other stuff
>>59212489T o T
>>59213297And over half of this is auto-commentary, as I said.
Biboo is negotiating with when to do it with her pebbles on stream
>>59213033What is international about Raden?
>>59213192what about lapras?
>>59212909Rissa: my forte is talkingRissa: but after 2 hours I struggle to find stuff to talk aboutNice forte you have there, Rissa.
Hey guys, just throwing out some spoilers, gold tonight is Aquapex and gold tomorrow is Raden karaoke.
>>59213375All she said was what type of streamer she watched while describing what kind of streamer she was. She just said Kiara was something nice to have on in the background while she worked and that was the kind of streamer she liked.
Of all the talented 2views, the pick these people for advent...
I can't believe ENbros are actually scared going against Regloss lmaolike they're not even 300k subs chuubas
>>59213456By far the best choices out of the available candidates
>>59213358anon there's another option therethey can stream some of their ranked games when they feel like iti don't need to see every game of the ranked grind
>>59213440She's been talking for over two hours in her members stream just fine though. Her first members stream was the same, nonstop talking.
>>59213223No, only AFA, they're doing to a malaysia con after AFA
>>59213445I thought Raden couldn't sin- Ohh, is that kind of Karaoke...
>>59213400Not really. I just jumped to random moments and she's talking about math exams and how to get a job and other random shit. Fauna doesn't do auto-commentary that much she just talks about whatever random shit pops up in her head.
>>59213486anyone would be scared of the smoka empress and the babu queen.
>>59213532Please enjoy the newest inauguration of the HoloSOVL idol group
>>59213514Women, amaright?
EN4 is doomed then, based on the people chosen by Jap for EN3
>>59212909this has to be fake
>>59213340>I swear every passing day she gets worseTo be a (normal) anon I try not to see things in negative light too much. But Rissa somehow throws something new at me everyday
>>59213289Which points to different demographics, probably, since you'd expect all those top cities to push Jakarta out on Spotify even setting aside whether they're breaking down Tokyo to it's individual wards, since I know I've seen Hong Kong on Spotify's lists before and yet it's not in Suisei's list. Kind of interesting stuff, but so much guess work since things aren't transparent enough on how they're handling the data.
>>59213456This might be the first time I've seen genuine 2view jealousy seethe and not thinly veiled seethe, thanks for being honest at least.
She's really NGMI if she's stuck in that mentality that she shouldn't get better and should just do weekly member streams for most solo content. She NEEDS to learn how to bounce off chat, she can't keep collabing forever.
>>59213445>Onyan goldHajimes monetization is today Anon.
>>59213567mad because you didn't get in or what
>>59213456I mean, who would be better?
>>59213494Yep. The EN scene that applies to holo is pretty grim, most of the candidates get too submerged in twitch culture and decide to stay there. Though I think there's one that would've been a good pick, but she's making bank as an indie right now.
>>59213456Let me guess: It should've been you?
>>59213634Beryl
>>59213289>JakartaJakarta.
>>59213609Onyon could make a genuine push for masters tonight or in her next stream if she keeps playing like she does.
>>59213456Gonna drop a link to your channel or what?
>>59213603it hasn't even been 2 months, stop doomposting
>>59213548>I did some cherry picking!STFU
>>59213639who? Nyana Banyana?
>>59213661She'll be in JP7, anon.
>>59213486Hajime is strong Banchou and she would only compete in the real league
>>59213661She's going to VShojo.
RAID YOUR KOUHAI YOU DIMB RAT
>>59213661She would instantly have the wort speaking voice in Hololive. As bad as Bae or Kiara. It would be like an Enna situation.
>>59213639I mean, as an EN vtuber, you are better off staying indie since there's no other choice left. Vshojo is an exclusive premium club, NijiEN is nearly dead and HoloEN is dying.
>>59213180>Well at least compensate it with fucking Karaoke stream / cover ori song uploadBeing an ENFocusing on the path of a singerIRyS has shown me enough. I don't need to see the ending of Rissa.
>>59213756Absurdist post
>>59213682Nah, it's an already established one. No beef with holo, I think, but she's enjoying her current thing.
>>59213770If IRyS "focused on the path of a singer" her throat wouldn't fucking die once a year because she decides to stream for 8 hours every other day.
Bae about to raid Mori! (she was going to raid Mumei but she delayed her stream)
>>59209934>He should do it on his stream where his viewers actually watch him.>Anon thinks beggar watch streamRookie mistake
>>59213567I wonder if they should try a Produce type survival show for EN4, would drum up a lot of interest.
>>59213747>DIMBDimb anon
Surely you guys going to watch rat 3D showcase right? You guys love numbers right? Help her reach 50k please..
>>59213661if onlywhere the fuck is she going aaaaa
>>59210133that's where most holostar "fans" are
>>59209708>/#/ bought into the unicorn and catalogfag's psyopsColor me surprised
>>59213902of course
>>59213918>therefore homobeggars are right and she should suck dick on screen
>>5921390250k guaranteed, saplings are getting btfo for the 4th time
>>59213902Only if she invites Roberu.
>>59213902anyone who thinks she isn't hitting 50k minimum is copingBae has tourism within her yetAt the very least, people will want to fuck the rratNo ill will towards Fauna whatsoever, but she has by far the least tourism of Council and still hit her 50k, I don't see a future where Bae can't
>>59212989She can sing.
>>59210164No
>>59213986but robert can't sing...
>>59213750depends on the model they give her, if something like Rissa her natural voice would fit very well
>>59213993That's a nice rock.
>>59213993What was council 3d debut numbers?
>>59213902She has that little bit of JP mindshare to coast to 50K. I'd be very surprised if she manages to end up as the runt.
I'll fully admit I'm a tourist to this general, but there's a question I've always been curious about. Especially in the case of Hololive, why so much focus on CCVs, and to a lesser extent subs? You all would know better than I would, but aren't there JP members whose numbers have been "grim" since practically the very beginning? I remember that being a pretty big part of Aki's arc, for instance. Clearly Cover doesn't care, because they're still there. I don't think I can even think of a single example of Cover dropping a talent just because they couldn't pull the requisite numbers.Is it just that CCVs and subs are easy numbers to track, so you use what you have? Conversely, from a business perspective, isn't most of Cover's revenue from SCs and memberships? Genuinely asking questions, hope I'm not coming across as trying to shitpost.
>>59213803I'm not wrong though. Unless you're friends with Vshojo, you can't get it. For NijiEN, you can see the numbers dropping to low 3view already. And for HoloEN, the situation is grim as fuck because morale is low and the numbers are dropping. Plus, you are always busy with Cover homework and flying to Japan. Nobody wants that.Staying indie and attracting twitch crowd is the best option
Is it possible to save / incline Nerissa? I know she's in Hololive therefore she doesn't need saving but man it's getting worse
>>59214117Thanks, I want to put my dick in it really badly
>>59214107They hired Shiori so clearly the voice not matching doesn't really matter.
>>59213567>EN4 is doomed then2 months in is still a little bit early to determine the true value of Advent.Council in first 2 months looked promising.Also 2 months Ollie.There is no Gura among Advent. So the value of Advent relies on how much they can improve the culture of EN branch.
>>59213961Feeling called out anon?
>>59214196No. I won.
>>59214168What are you talking about, shiori's voice matches her model perfectly
>>59214128CCV horseracing is the most fun thing to do in /#/, and that's bled into pretty much everything else.
>>59214161Karaoke, release more covers/orisongs
i like it when mococo un un
>>59214230Won what?
>>59214186If this is Advent 2 months in then HoloEN is fucking dead. The numbers are so grim.
>>59213268imagine the smell of her panties after 10 hours of sweaty apex
>>59214128>isn't most of Cover's revenue from SCs and membershipsIt's merch and sponsorshipAs to why ccv? It's horse race like number, I love seeing Niji small numbers mogged by Holo big number almost everyday
IDEA: Force ReGloss girls to stream english once a month so we can register them in cripple tally. Then EN numbers will be ultra secured, will have a good singer finally and will even get like 1 global gold every month. And Ririka finally gets the EOP audience she wants. Everyone happy!
>>59214161Don't suck at the next karaokeCollab within the fucking companyPlay a real game you've never played before and don't lie about itStop fawning over your coworkers like a ravenous retard
>>59214128Because it's easy to take a screencap from vrabi and make a shitpost out of it
>>59214260You should ask Vesper and Magni that for the answer.
>>59214128Your first mistake is actually taking this thread seriously.
>>59214305Who?
>>59214153>morale is low>numbers are droppingWhat numbers are you talking about?Their events are doing better than last year
>>59214268Hololive is losing merch and sponorships to Nijisanji
>>59213902she will get 50K retard suisei and pekora will be her guest
No 6k from holoen todayThe decline is real
>>59208976Even his fan know that he can't stand on his own and resort to leeching FWMC
>>59214161She just needs a bigger range on her streaming personality. It doesn't always have to be turned up to 11 on the horni. Even Marine doesn't do that. 7 or 8 is about the ceiling, then she has to find other/supplement with other narrative directions. Ironically, it'll solve her, "I have nothing to talk about," problem, too.
>>59214163>fucking a rockshame that houseki no kuni came first
>>59214128Yes. They are also good metrics for the imaginary horse racing. But to your second point, no. Most of Cover's revenue right now is from events (Fes and other concerts), collaborations and most importantly merch. Live streaming provides a pretty steady stream of revenue but that's it. They have been transitioning to a more traditional revenue mix stream (for an ACG company)for a while now.
>>59214186Culture of EN branch isn't going to change just look how fast the small amount of motivation everyone had to stream vanished after 2 weeks. Its only been 2 months its only going to get more grim.
>>59214262>If this is Advent 2 months in then HoloEN is fucking deadHold your verdict there. The official honeymoon period is like 3 months.
>>59213902She will get 80k with Suisei, Sora and Pekora
>>59214331Exactly.
>>59214356>2% cut
>>59214153Anon the writing general is two blocks down
Biboo has been taking about raden
>>59214161I'm buying Rissa's stocks right now since she's at an all time low. Vtuber who starts at a blank slate has the most potential. Just look at Subaru or Miko who started small and grew more comfortable streaming. Sometimes you have experience streamers with stable floor but poor potential for growth, so a fresh face can be molded into a decent vtuber. All of her issues are fixable. Right now she's not fast enough to cherry pick funny comments in chat, but she can study under other senpai for that banter. She doesn't play a lot of games, so she can leverage that inexperience into something entertaining. The potential is limitless.
>>59214496No really who?
>>59214448oithey're gems you fuck
>>59214510I'm talking about the company though, not the livers
>>59214466Isn't it a bad sign then that its looking this bad in the "honeymoon period"
>>59214128CCV is the best metric to track engagement and streamer's qualitySC can be the result of heavy GFE pandering, Merchs can be the result of heavy promotion and good design, VOD can be the result of a very short clippable moment, views can be the result of music cover, even subs can be dead sub.CCV is the best for tracking how well you are doing as a streamer, How well you can attract people to your stream and how long you can make them stay.
>>59214153>The situation is grim as fuck>Morale is lowDamn anon, apparently being the 2nd/3rd biggest vtuber branch in the entire world who get tens of thousands watching every day and record high event numbers is somehow shit?Seriously, unless you're just some faggot shitposter, go get a fucking life guy. You have zero idea what you're talking about and you're coming off as one of the 60 iq retards in this thread who fall for rrats and horserace posting.
>>59214466holy kino, how low can we get?
>>59214340>Their events are doing better than last yearAre we really going to pretend that Mumei wasn't saved by JP members.
>>59213902Marine and Suisei are a guaranteed. Maybe she can get Mio or Roberu to round out the last spot.
>>59214570>pretending to be this new because that BTFOoh am i laffin
It's been 24 hours. So why did Mumei get that much SCs?
Reminder there are seething 2views ITT right now.
>>59214424She rarely does the horny shit any more, not sure why people keep bringing it up
>>59214606This. Regardless of how it may be used for company purposes, it's a nice tool to see how well a streamer does.
>>59213494Beryl...
>Reimu in Mori's chatIs she still trying this leeching bit, has it worked for her at all these past years
Hololives strongest cheerleader
>>59214688>but, bruh, she changedWhich means she's already improving so why are you butthurt?
>>59214128Cover would never drop anyone so that's a dumb point. Subs and to a much lesser extent subs are what cover uses to measure success and it's what leads to girls getting oppurtunities and why others don't. It's why Pekora is getting a sololive and other girls are not. It's why Myth are always getting new sponsorships cafe collabs and council aren't
>>59213902Of course. I love rratsis.
>EN is doomed yet againYou guys really need some new material, come into this thread any time of day and it's the same thing. There could be a bunch of hype streams in JP hours and you'll still be talking about how EN is dead/dying/doomed.
>>59214630Didn't EN get Pekora and Marine last year?What a massive incline
NFL Numbers PIT 23LV 18
>>59214448i loved dia so much.....
>>59214463>only been 2 months its only going to get more grim.Not necessarily. Some holos like koyo, peko, miko, shuba can keep being passionate. If a holo's motivation decays quickly in a year she's is not a suitable candidate for holo. But yea EN branch....
>>5921477170 20
>>59208907ok i just watched itthe song is nothing special but the mv is extremely good, this deserves way more views but sadly there is no justice in this world
>>59214725SEX
>>59214128CCV is good for horse racing because the rankings always change. Sadly, some take it too seriously.IMO, good streamers normally tend to have high viewership. That's where CCV comes to play.However, the end game of companies is revenue or profits. Even with shit CCV, if their IP sells, then good. It is more about the ability to sell, regardless of the ability to provide quality streams.
>>59214766But this time we have one year to grimpost, so you better get ready because we ain't leaving
>>59214717it's working with Nerissa
>>59214725>emo goth playing at being a cute and bubbly idolCan't wait to see what she does in Fes6.
>>59214813>good streamers normally tend to have high viewership.All of EN is terrible then.
>>59208907I didn't even know this was released. How much of the numbers is boosted/blocked by YouTube algo being a bitch and a lack of exposure versus actual quality?
>>59214767>Didn't EN get Pekora and Marine last yearGura did, big difference.
>>59214725>shiori on idol outfitseggs
>>59214823What's working? It led to nothing
who will win tonight? roberu's anniversary stream or FWMC morning? The answer will surprise you.t.anon from the future
>>59214826She will have graduated by then
>>59214766I warned you about the grimniggers bro
>>59214873t. seething 2view
>>59214684>Roughly a million yen for a 3D ShowcaseIDK, doesn't seem that much to me. It's not bad, but not anything super amazing either
>>59214717The ship has sailed for mori leeching she just did an interview where she said she wasn't interested in collabing outside of hololive anymore
>>59214128CCV is the number to determine the quality of a streamer's content/the capacity of a streamer to draw in an audience, which is pivotal for successSubscribers are THE mindchair number, and mainly of use for things like investor meetings and getting sponsorships, because big wigs like subscriptions and understand them easily.Cover's exceptionally nice as a company and doesn't fire anyone because "firing people" is bad for the brand, and will only go out and do that for extreme cases (Rushia). Numbers will never be low enough to qualify as an extreme reason.Cover's main revenue source is not so much "Superchats and Memberships" (although those are a significant percentage of profits, they are not an overwhelmingly large segment), but their merch sales (which are HUGE). THAT is where the money is at the moment. SCs and Memberships are probably #3 and #4 in revenue, behind Merch at #1 and Sponsorships at #2.
[News]Cover feels sorry for EN and will force 3 JPs of your choice to join EN branch. Which will you choose?
>>59214606>CCV is the best metric to track engagement and streamer's qualityYou can't possible believe this holy fuck LMAOCCV has almost nothing to do with quality of a streamer. It never has and historically among all places of livestreaming this has never, EVER been a accurate statement. Some of the most famous streamers ever have been touted as lazy, uncaring and have no fucks to give. Forsen might be a bigger name than all of hololive combined with the exception of Gura and the dude is silent 95% of the stream.The only accurate thing that CCV tracks is how many are interested in tuning in. That's it. It has nothing to do with quality or value amongst a streamer. Luna might be one of the worst streamers in all of hololive yet she's a 10k+ ccv streamer. It's literally just the size of the box that uplifts her, nothing more. It has nothing to do with quality or engagement
>>59214771>NFL vs NFL
WE HAVE A FULLY TALLY BOIS
biboo is no longer poor after joining hololive
schedule
>>59213249And nobody ever shat on LaPlus for her low stream hours!
>>59214913You forgot about ads which slot in between sponsorships and memberships
>>59214153Whose morale is low? You must mean numberfags in this shithole, right? Because it sure as fuck isn't the girls.
>>59214921Marine, Pekora, Chloe
>>59214921Pekora, Marine, and MikoThanks Yagoo
>>59214685>random absolute fucking seetheOh I can tell
>>59211878>MIDDLE GROUND>In /#/ Anon?
>>59214861With these inclines, FMWC could hit 90k
>>59214964Nobody cares about stream hours, it's always been about stream frequency
>>59214921Roboco, Matsuri, Ao
>>59214897It's more than Fauna
>>59214766>EN is doomed yet againwell its funny but this is numbers thread and ENs do get lower numbers compared to days ago>Pre advent doomposting material- dead hours bad- homos infiltration bad- Ame, Kronii making new friends- too few ENs>Post advent doomposting material- numbers bad
Ui mama now has more monthly growth than Marine
>>59214958Seems decent
>>59214654No really who?
>>59215041>stream frequencylaplus didn't have that either
>>59215074lol
>>59214964Except that's true. No one ever did care about Laplus streaming low hours. If you weren't a newfag you'd know this because people were too busy shitting on council for months while Laplus was doing 25 hours of streaming a month. People didn't say anything because she was getting a lot of viewers.Similarly, no one would be saying shit here either if someone in Advent was getting insanely high numbers doing that too. Notice no one poking at Raden for streaming 1 1/2 hrs a day?
>>59214985Despite the attempts of seething 2views numberchad morale has never been higher
>>59215006Why would indie seethe when they mkae good money being indie?
>>59212909Grim
>>59214921Ririka, Miko and Chammers (she deserves to be EN I'm still holding that fucking grudge FUCK YOU OMEGA YOU SACK OF SHIT)
>>59214921What? EN is fine
>>59215087Yeah which is why she get shat on, not low streaming hours
>>59214246>>59214268>>59214299>>59214320>>59214449Good point on merch/sponsorship/events, but that's sort of my point, none of those three things are also dependent on CCVs. And I mean, fair play, I can appreciate a little 'hell yeah meaningless number goes up / oh no meaningless number went down', it's just wild to me that there are posts right next to y'all agreeing that CCVs are kind of meaningless to Cover talents, right next to people saying x or y talent is doomed because bad CCVs.>>59214606>>59214712>>59214745>>59214813>>59214913To a degree I can understand that, but if a Holotalent has bad CCVs, but has a small but dedicated fanbase, is doing things they enjoy and that fanbase enjoys, and is living comfortably and in no danger of getting dropped by Cover, why is that something to be concerned about? Maybe they're not striving for the #1 spot, but does everyone have to be?
>>59214958Aside from Monday, this is a very good week for her. Also the new cover is eigo and is a "lewd vocaloid" song.
>>59215061That's it, all Fuwamoco needs for 1 million subs is a viral song with a tiktok dance.
>>59208907the mv is animated well, but it doesn't grab youas for the song, too much falsetto for me
Yeah if I was an indie and Hololive approached me? I would totally turn them down. That's how grim things are. I make way more money from the groomers in my discord.
>>59215107I don't know man, you tell me
>>59214921Mel, Aki, Robocco
>>59214958>New song releaseOrisong?
>>59215099>Notice no one poking at Raden for streaming 1 1/2 hrs a day?I think people are more forgiving of low streaming hours if said person streams pretty much every single day. And unless I've missed something she seems pretty new to streaming as well.
>>59214128CCV's the easiest number to horserace, because it's a number that isn't completely uncontestably owned by a single person/group. Gura existing completely killed subcount racing for years, VoD racing is comparing apples with hand grenades, SC racing kinda died when Rushia died and was temporarily resurrected during Luxiem's summer only to die again by winter.In reality, CCV is itself a horrifically inaccurate metric for reasons ranging from known direct and inconsistent culling (2020 changes, CCVID, delayed waiting room verification, Z's, etc) to frequently being completely decoupled from other metrics (eg: Myth 3rd Anni Collab Relay has double to triple the CCV of their individual celebrations, but has the same VoDs, or in Gura's case gets completely obliterated by her solo), to shit like raids, nevermind the provable botting attempts of varying obviousness. It'd be nice if we had the real stats panel numbers for retention, clickthrough, etc, but all we've got are half the social credit scores that Neal deigns to let us see.
>>59215054Fauna isn't really a SC monster so that doesn't say much
>>59215057Advent literally got 29.5k people watching between 3 streams last night. How is that low?The 30k combined ccv had only been reached like 2 times in the past 9 months and you're here trying to doompost because....?
>>59215185Lol no its a vocaloid cover
>>59215061Feels good to be a Holochad
>>59214958except the first collab, this is her best schedule. She's improving every week
October is coming but no news for HoloFes5, is it finally over?
>>59213280Yeahhttps://streamable.com/o2l7n2
>>59214958Hmm... okay.
>>59215185Nah English deco cover
>>59213212Yeah, if there's people she can take advice from when it comes to improving after debut month, it's Mumei and Fauna. Those two were car wrecks for the first month or two, especially Mumei.
>>59215188>Gura existing completely killed subcount racing for years,Anon did you miss the Kobo vs vox subcount race?
>>59215205Damn
>>59215187????All of advent stream 5-6 times a week. By your logic no one should be saying anything because they're all hardworking and are active while the rest fuck off. Except that's not what happens and instead we get 18 hours of tards doomposting all day long
>>59215242Fauna wasn't even a wreck though, what is this meme. Her numbers were pretty mid but her content never changed
>>59215228Are you retarded
>>59215196Because it's grim today and not yesterday, retard?
>>59214958>collab>family gimmick>karaoke>collab>collab>open VC
>>59214958>The Smiths karaokeOkay, I have to give her a chance.
>>59215235she said not to leak that part.......
Mori silver
>>59214854I run the assumption that the ability to bring and keep a number of viewers makes one a good streamer.The problem is what "good" means.
>>59215312It was leaked in this very thread 3 times already
>>59215242How can Mumei be a car wreck when one of her best streams ever was her second stream?
>>59214958I think this family shit is so retarded. Like no one genuinely gives a shit about this other than coomer fanartists do they? We barely know the talent why the fuck would I give a fuck about her family
>>59214958>streams everydayWhy can't her senpais do this
>>59215140>if a Holotalent has bad CCVs, but has a small but dedicated fanbase, is doing things they enjoy and that fanbase enjoys, and is living comfortably and in no danger of getting dropped by Cover, why is that something to be concerned about?The issue with this line of thinking is assuming that "small but dedicated fanbase" is sustainable over a long period.It's one of the #1 rules of business: If you aren't growing, even a little bit, you're shrinking. Things don't "stay stable" for long. Things either slightly grow (like how EN is, even if the loss of the debut buff is clouding that at the moment for some people, or how JP is in the aggregate) or slightly shrink (like how a lot of the IDs have been outside of Kaela and Kobo, or how Niji/Vshojo have been) over the long.There's nothing wrong with being niche. I won't say that everyone HAS to aim for the top. But if you aren't aiming to grow, you're going to shrink. That's just a truth of the world.
>>59215242Except Spore was fucking amazingDumbass revisionist history
>>59215337i guess some jailbirds just aren't strong enough, huh?
>>59214766It's the same thing because, leaving Moom's 3D asides since it's a special event stream, EN normal streams' numbers have been particularly low over the last few days.Whenever someone brought it up, there were always the "it's just one / two days" excuses. It has been 4 days in a row, now. FWMC and Fauna seem to be the only ones pulling decent numbers (and theirs are still a bit behind their normal numbers before as well)
>>59215242Fauna was unironically good at debut, most people didn’t give her a chance.
>>59215057Advent just needs to play minecraft twice a weekOne single POV on weekdays, collab on weekendsGood numbers all week long
Bitchjew streams everyday
>>59215408Yeah anon it's not like summer just ended and people went back to schoolI swear to god I remember having this exact same discussion last year too
>>59215099Should also be noted that Raden streams just about the lowest-effort content imaginable. Effort and hours don't mean much.
>>59215355I think is fun
>>59215453>summer cope when the majority of Holo viewers are salary men
>>59215453>>34791305Yep we did
>>59215478me too, the designs are also very sex
>>59215437Minecraft is kind of played out, and, honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft pulls a permissions a la Nintendo on them. It's iffy. They have a really good thing with Terraria going on and could make some pretty good collaborative art. Frankly, most of the Holos just play Minecraft for mapart anyway.
>>59215297>>59215387>>59215422That can be advice in and of itself.Keeping up the pace despite not getting results right away can lead to good results over time, once you find your comfort zone and start getting in the groove.
>>59215338Big numbersBig membershipsBig superchatsPuny numbers no good
>>59215355She lives with them and likes to tell stories about them and wants to do a duet karaoke for Christmas with her sister, so why not?
>>59214921Ayame, Shion, AquaNothing will change most of the days
#s justifying ccv again like it is important when time and time again subs is the metric cover will always prioritize.Hell koyo and JP girls cry for their sub milestones and you just know Marine is prioritizing her sub growth to beat AI.If you guys want ccv to be king for cover let the girls stream solely at twitch since ccv is king there.Advent boosted EN box back to its usual 20 to 25k daily when before advent only a Gura or karaoke stream can boost en box.Add to that advent boosted around 100 to 150k subs as a whole for myth and council.
>>59215408>>59215453>>59215489EVERY YEAR UNTIL YOU LIKE IT
>>59215196>EN box numbers Without anniversary & 3D (& Fubuki19 Sep - 2678020 Sep - 2393021 Sep - 2449523 Sep - 17240
>>59215522>mapart 0 ENs know how to do them, it's so grim
>>59215570What happens first, /#/ understands seasonality or /#/ understands timezones?
>>59215140CCV can be an indication of a member's popularity. For 3D lives those who can break 100k would need to have the pull for so many people to tune in. That pull also transfers to their ability to move merch. But of course you also have to take into account other factors for example the passive fanbase who do watch VOD/clips but can't catch live most of the time for example Myth's global audience. But like what>>59214320 said, just don't take it too seriously. CCV is not the be-all and end-all of metrics. To properly analyze a chuuba's popularity you would need a short report that look at multiple metrics at least. Just have fun in the shitposting and some occasional serious discussions.
>>59215355Mamarissa sexanerissa sexNerissa not sexAlso, fuwawa is trash
>>59215615Fauna wants to do one eventually but her tree...
>>59215560Subs don't count as strongly as CCV because subs don't make money for a streamer like CCV does. Subs mean jack. CCV means greater chance for members, supas, and donos. Same for Twitch or anywhere.
>>59215140>why is that something to be concerned about?I don't know why you asked that question. Holos, when they get in, are set for life, at least when looking at Hololive's current position, unless they got Aloe'd.
>>59215646>anerissa sex
>>59215560You said a lot of shit and some of it was good and some of it was garbageCCV matters and we know that Cover knows that, because they brag about high CCV on their investor showcases the same way they do about subscriptionsThey just brag about subs more because people understand subs more, and frankly, they're more impressive to look at
>>59215618# understands that your point doesn't matter here
>>59215646fuwawa may not smell like a bunch of roses, but she's soft and sweet
>>59215665>Oi. I'm talking to you. Are you paying attention?>I'M TRYING NOT TO, RESPECFULLY!
>>59215646HHHNGGG!
>>59215656Subs is what Cover advertises to investors.
>>59215422I one thing I remember from Fauna's debut period was her nervously giggling every couple of sentences.
>>59215657>set for lifeAre they? Did anyone crunch the numbers how much they earn?
>>59215140>A small but dedicated fanbaseFor numbers above 0, 100% retention rate doesn't exist
Football finally over, anything Interesting I’ve missed today?
>>59215668The thing about ccv is that they are ephemeral so it's hard to brag about them without setting yourself up for grudgepost. Subs stay more or less constant unless something big happens
>>59215570I love how people got out of school this year and EN got even lower numbers. The numbers only got better when advent debuted but it looks like it's back to grim.
>>59215702Fuwawa is a bitch.
>>59215735She still giggles a lot
>>59215646>Fuwawa is trashHow about Rissa?
>>59215689# understands my fist to your face
>>59215586….?????????How is this bad? Reaching 20k ccv without Gura was literally a fucking tall order for holoEN before advent. Again, let me give you a very “grim” reminder that this thread religiously followed Fauna and would do haywire over her simply hitting 9k ccvAnd guess what? That was her SOLO STREAMING for hours on end. You think holoEN was in a healthy spot before? Because last I remember it would take atronomical effort to even get 3 people streaming at the exact same time
>>59209934>Just say I'm not hololiveAfaik this guy is kinda clueless about hololive, sisters call him a normie and shit so he probably doesn't really know wtf he supposed to be and management was sending mixed signals from the start almost certainly discouraging both groups from making the distinction too clear because their whole marketing plan for homos seem to rely on confusing the obnoxious casual fan.
>>59215757Mumei died
>>59215732The dumb ones, maybe.
>>59215453But numbers were nowhere nearly this bad last year. We're seeing HoloEN runts rolling around 2k on gaming streams. Even the supposedly mid-tier were getting only 4-5k.I.e: picrel was EN list on 23rd Sep 2022. Try comparing that to any of the last 4 days
Is it me or have the Meidos been a lot more trigger happy lately? They've been taking taking bait threads more frequently recently and they've been banning people for just being generally annoyed at them. t.gotbannedjustforsayingFUmeidos
>>59215656The point of Subs is that you'll likely get more views/CCV for your video/streams. So if it's all dead subs, kek, to the trash bin that number goes.
>>59215732I thought investors are prime numberfags? If investors buy the sub cope, then the market is truly grim.
CCV is nothing more than nijinig's tool to advance their holo vs holo and to gain some victory over Hololive with their Belo Jogo bots.
seggs
>>59215408Numbers weren't even that bad yesterday even if you ignore Mumei. Bijou 9k, Fuwamoco 16k singing fucking JP oldies. Day before that Fuwamoco got 8k playing Zelda, Fauna got her usual number range on Hitman recently as well. Are people here just numberroted from the Advent post-debut period?
>>59214921Pekora, Marine and Miko. Any other answer is wrong
>>59215657I agree, I'm wondering why some of the people in here don't, like the following>>59215385In the world in general, sure. But Mel has been streaming for 5 years, has yet to crack 1 million subscribers, I'm sure looks terrible by CCVs, and yet, is still holding steady, gets to go to huge events, and seems to be having fun. Is that so bad?
>>59215832You tell me anon
>>59215817Right, because surely you couldn't be the dumb one. Everyone else is stupid but you.
To which God do I pray so the output of these girls can be equalized?Rather than 50 bitchboo stream, 5 from each EN is preferable
>>59215834The issue is VTubers often have a higher proportion of dead subs compared to other channels. Their content if often driven by clippers and third-party advertisement, so they often get knocked off of recommends. It makes subs more unreliable as a metric than they would be in general.
>>59215813Nooo…..
>>59215880>Being racist outside of /b/deserved
>>59215646wrong.>nerissa sex>anerissa sex>oneerissa sex>mamarissa sex>fwmc double sex
>>59215819So the grimanons were right all along, that Advent just cannibalize the current fanbase?
>>59215560CCV is only good for shitposting, any other explanation is pure cope. Don’t take the thread seriously, less than a handful of posters know statistics and the ones that do enjoy shitposting as well.
>>59215902Yeah anon and that's different from every other creator on youtube how?
>>59215891I dismissed you because you made something similar to a, "My dad works at Nintendo," argument. If you sit on the board or invested in Hololive, prove it to me.
>>59215849I did say>FWMC and Fauna seem to be the only ones pulling decent numbers (and theirs are still a bit behind their normal numbers before as well)though
>>59215916Which would have a point if he was banned for racism and not trolling
>>59215819BECAUSE HOLOEN STREAMED SOLO FOR HOURS ON END BEFORE ANYONE WOULD EVEN TURN A STREAM ON YOU DUMBFUCKWHY DO YOU THINK HOLOEN ALWAYS GOT “GOOD” NUMBERSBECAUSE NO ONE FUCKING STREAMED SO ALL PEOPLE COULD DO WAS PUT ONE STREAM ON UNTIL 4 HOURS LATER
>>59215832They always been shit, I got banned for saying Moona gotten fatter since joining holo even tho she literally said so on stream.
>>59215656Twitchers care more about watch hours than CCV.
>>59215975>trolling outside of /b/deserved