/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>59049342
not a vtuber

This one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae1BV8Suk0A

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

>>59049409
Cute

Delicious seething

>>59049342
>>59049418
Who is this semen demon?

>>59046194
Source?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok

Thread is a bit late. I need the continuation of the 2 fags(or 1 schizo) going back and forth last thread.

>>59041426
Recent clip numbers
>>59035486
>>59035514
>>59035536
>>59035560
>>59035585

>>59049441
wtf I was told it was cripple confirmed! That it wouldn't slip! Drats! I will never forgive the sisters!

Vtubers for this feel?

>>59049342
huh?

>>59049441
FWMC comes in with the clutch save. Dont forget this when you guys decide to shit on them.

>HOLOLIVE BOARD
>HOLOLIVE THREAD

>>59049529
Mori.

>>59049529
Usada Pekora when she puts an effort

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05ST8IN0M9o&ab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05ST8IN0M9o&ab
NEW BUFF GAME ALERT

Last thread we had a wide range of topics discussed, from dick size to Niji botting. /#/ is inclining.

What were the FWMC numbers?

>>59049441
>>59049461
MORE

>>59049548
>>59049511
>>59049418
>>59049342
The nips really love their SHIMPURU IZZU BESUTO huh. Lucia's design is great and so iconic.

>>59049544
>Dont forget this when you guys decide to shit on them
Those are seething Nijisisters tho. I expect even more FWMC seething from now on.

>>59049441
Ducky is a fucking retard.

>>59049529
Kaela minecraft stream

>>59049606
>we

>>59049548
Are >we posting ghosts now?

ID always on top of NijiEN nowadays

>>59049595
Gura love to play that.
>4-players
SNOT stream!!! for november

So nijilewds?

>>59049595
UWOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GURA'S COMEBACK

>>59049685
I still love her.

>>59049606
>seething faggots humiliating themselves and sperging out seethepost after seethepost

>>59049683
Yes anon, we are the cult of numbers, otherwise called the secret society. We are the most influential thread.

https://youtu.be/Ni-p4ucNbyA
whoever drew her here should take over. Anime Flare is beautiful

>YAGOOs Dream xD
I hate this one the most

>>59049441
Baubau nijikeks

>>59049701
>trash and garbage

We're Inclining as a thread

>>59049652
Nijisisters and pebbles usually

>>59049701
>unarchived valorant
what is this autism?

>>59049754
seethe. THIS IS POPULAR DEMAND
DDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>59049731
I don't see any difference with an usual day here.

>>59049714
>>59049730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcT3FXcuLng
don't give me hope

>>59049529
Raden

>>59049701
>merge soon

>>59049768
Sis don't call your nijishitters like that

>>59049787
>screenshotting your own post
kimoi

>>59049701
I find it funny Fulgur is so fat, he doesn't want to go to the offpako.

>>59049746
Poor Flare. No dance sequence so there's nothing for the tiktok drones to latch onto for free views/subs.

>>59049685
Howdie the sugar~

>>59049847
Gotta keep some curry for everyone, please andastand.

>>59049658
He has a tattoo of a vtuber who hates him.

>>59049787
How DARE you reply to me Nijitrash?!?

>>59049746
idd she looks great

>>59049860
>Howdie
*Howdy

>>59049847
But he was there, or is this clickbait?

>>59049685

So, I went and checked Gura's streams since Calisto protocol, the last game before she went on a major health break.
In that timespan, from Dec 7th 2022 to now, she has done a total of 32 public streams, of which 6 of those were literal mandated streams that she had no control over. Meaning, she's only streamed for viewers 26 times on her own free will.

To further contextualize this, if we assume there are 30 days in a month and subtract 7 days from this month, Gura as of right now is averaging 1 stream per 10 days. Yes, she averages about 3 streams a month right now.

Even worse, this got boosted by the week of hardcore streaming when Advent came out. Without those she'd be averaging close to 1 stream every 2 weeks.

>>59049940
Really?
That's what you focused on?

>>59049934
I am a forgotten entity

>>59049746
Person behind flare's new song, no wonder it's good

>>59049860
Are you trying to say, 'Howdy there, Sugar?'

>>59049746
Atelier is actually so good. Looping for 2 hours now

>>59050040
Ogey

It's over, isn't it?

Oh yeah, nippleboy's 3D was today wasn't it?
Guessing he got Gold and 150k right?

>>59049860
>the
*There

So happy I didnt join today's thread with you retards around.

>>59050040
no biggie, chumbuds don't need any streams.

>>59049701
Owari da

>>59049943
I guess they tried to do the Gurame surprise offcollab gimmick, since Fatgur was streaming normally, except it didn't boost their numbers at all.

>>59050082
>Sugar
*Shugger

C'mon girls.

r8

>>59050107
Yeah and holocope is exquisite

>>59050157

>Gura is basically retired
>Ame is burnt out and hates (you)
>Ina is phoning it in hard
>Mori
>kiara is to debuff to pull the gen out this nose dive
so is myth basically dead?

>Enter Numberfag General Thread
>Thread quality has reached an all time low because of a flood of ESL posting
It's Euro hours... I should've known.

>>59050260
?

>>59050040
She's focusing on her music

>>59050260
Yes, we live off of Advent and Fauna now.

>>59050260
yes, but aren't allowed to point it out

>>59050260
Pray for Fauna and Kronii or council is next

Looks like YouTube knows in which thread I lurk the most.

Tempiss status?!?

>>59050260
You forgot
>still casually mog NijiCN offcollabs even while being 3 years old

>>59050297
SEA hours are just ending chill mate

>>59050297
You never fool anyone.

>>59050260
EN4 ACCELERATE NOW NOW NOW!!!!!!!!

>>59050366
Haven't thought of them in over a month.
Haven't had more than 1 video per month recommended from them all summer.

>>59050381
Your welcome.

>>59050260
I will never forgive myth for what they did to the branch

>>59050260
So a "basically dead" gen still completely dominates all other EN chuubas, while being supported by a great set of kouhais. Seems like HoloEN is winning hard as usual.

>>59050429
No, he's anon, not welcome, that would be a weird name

>>59050421
Almost everyone in Advent has dogwhistled /#/ already, why do they love us so much?

>>59050322
>>59050358
FauFau and the rest of council are starting to head down the same path myth, this was never a problem for jp since they have so many girls

According to my life-long research, this is actually the most feminine ReGloss girl. I will now ope panel for debate

>>59050260
wonder how despite all this NijiEN cant incline not even a little

>>59050508
I've seen niji homos more feminine though...

>>59049441
kek

>>59050508
you're goddam right

>>59050508
>draw a male
>call it a girl
what the fuck is wrong with Japan?

>>59049722
oh yeah we are posting ship waifus!
or portuguese

>>59050508
>Ririka is actually a nerd
>Kanade is retarded
>Hajime is retadeder
>Raden smokes
>Ao screams like girl when scared
I agree with this anon

>>59050260
>>Gura is basically retired
Involved in background stuff. She has a high position in holoEN. Especially on the managerial side of things.
>>Ame is burnt out and hates (you)
Same as Gura but to a lesser extent. Expect a guerilla very soon.
>>Ina is phoning it in hard
Too busy having sweaty lovey dovey love making with yours truly.
>>Mori
She will Collab with all you oshis and you will like it. Mori does have the seconds highest golds, you know.
>>kiara is to debuff to pull the gen out this nose dive
Nerissa will save her Oshi. Trust the process of things.

https://twitter.com/amanekanatach/status/1705261093411778891
https://twitter.com/amanekanatach/status/1705261093411778891
https://twitter.com/amanekanatach/status/1705261093411778891

HUH?

>>59050508
built for proneboning

>>59050260
I don't understand how some people treat Myth as if it was a failure. They were expected to barely break 100k subs around their debuts, and still ended up being arguably the biggest generation of Hololive in some domains, it's normal for them to slow down after 3 years. Overlooking their success is just stupid.

>>59050661
Yeah they had this Dark Souls collab planned from way before Kanata's break

What do you nerds think about my chart?

>>59050678
Exceeded everything, but where are things now with them? What is going on with EN compared to JP, what's so different in terms of growth, fanbase, and so on?

>>59049342
>>59049418
who?

>>59050260
Yes but they still lasted more than Tempiss and NijiEN. And despite everything no western Vtuber managed to ever reached their heights and most likely never will.

>>59050590
Ohey, it's Mulanon. Go hang out at /rgg/ sometimes, we kinda need some Ao stans in there anyway.

>>59050654
>Involved in background stuff. She has a high position in holoEN. Especially on the managerial side of things.
Do we literally have any big piece of proof or evidence she's been majorly involved with anything behind the scenes with EN in the last three months?

>>59050723
such a fucking drag, shell never complete it

FAUNA MENTION ON MIKO STREAM

Where is the daily tally?

>>59050678
You can't live forever in the past

>>59050750

>>59050654
>She will Collab with all you oshis and you will like it.
How about no

Just got off my shift at the coal mines and holy shit, Lauren (I know who this is) is now the most important vtuber? I always knew she had it in her. So proud of her.

>>59050421
do you have the soundpost for their "we got the numbers!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=who-PWgfi8E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=who-PWgfi8E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=who-PWgfi8E

Criple gold

>>59050678
Exceeding expectations just magnifies the size of the decline anon

>>59050833
Bots are going to overheat at this point

>>59050622
Counterpoint: Correcting lesbian is hot

>>59050771
... you want my mental illness there? I mean I don't mind since you invited me, you have cookies? I bring a case of beer

>>59050678
That was a shitpost but nowhere in that post at all says Myth is a failure. You're kind of putting words in the shitposters mouth

Anyways, everyone recognizes the success myth had. What people ask is what did they do with that success, and the answer is... Well, pretty much absolutely nothing apart from Mori, and even that is questionable because in return for getting a record label deal, she lost almost all of her fanbase gradually over time.

The unfortunate reality is myth didn't do anything past their initial years worth of success and to this day have so little to show for it. Gura, in 3 years, STILL only has 1 official song release. She's literally the most recognized for her singing yet has been unable to put out.. anything at all. And the others all have their slight ups and major downs.

>>59050678
>All those dead subs
>Success
Kek. ENfags and their echo chamber

>>59050733
Compare what's comparable, the EN bow is way smaller than the JP one. And by EN standards, they're doing as pretty well.
Gura keeps gaining subs even without streaming, Mori has some big stuff going on musically, Ina keeps pandering to the same niche as she did for the past years, and it's really just Ame and Kiara who are more sidelined, which is obviously more surprised for Ame, who's had a great career early on.

>>59050723
>averages about +500RP a stream, +100RP an hour
>needs ~100 more hours, ~20 streams
>Season ends first week of November
She gets around 40 days left and she's been doing a stream every 2 days
Can she do it bros? can she get solo master on the hardest ranked season yet?

>>59050867
Yes

>>59050963
>Gura keeps gaining subs even without streaming
What good does that exactly do if none of them bother showing up to the 3 streams a month she does?

Micomet overseas trip summary on Sunday JST. Gold contender

>>59050366
Ngl, i forgot they exist.

>>59051016
it's over for Mumei.. only Kronii gold..

>>59050997
>What good does that exactly do
Big number>Small number

>>59050997
Judging by your logic Ui's next stream should be 100k right?

>>59050969
If she's able to maintain that consistency, sure. The biggest wall is once she get to Diamond since it will be -75 instead of -50 for early death.

>>59050997
She's a constant 5view, which is already something I haven't seen any other EN vtuber being. It's like asking why Pekora doesn't have an average CCV of 40k or more every stream.

>>59050678
This always comes up as a stupid defense. "I only expected to achieve mediocrity in life, I don't want to aim for greater heights".

>>59049787

i thought /#/ would have discussion about the mathematical modeling of the factors influencing vtuber stats since the general is called fucking numbers
e.g. games, streaming times, streaming overlap etc and the impact on view count and subscriber growth
something like saltybet where people could place bets on the peak view count on streams
or a simulated stock market where people buy and share shares of vtubers based on their performance
instead its the same old /vt/ shit
im disappointed

>>59050881
Subs is the most important metric in Hololive. so yes, they're actually success.

>>59051170
shut up nerd

https://youtu.be/G0gJSMCZyc0
Wtf

>>59050775
Gura is working on stuff that magically dissapears and becomes a piece of bread every day

>>59050260
3 fucking years and we've had a grand total of ZERO powerful story arcs from EN.
Majority of EN fans still only remember the memes and shit from 3 years ago - the 'a' or Mori's RIP or smol Ame. EN has completely alienated the casual audience.

>>59051170
You'd need actual intelligence for that, leave anons alone

>>59050678
That went viral and flared up to great heights before falling to a more normal level. Numbers, being full of retards, uses their viral days as some sort of baseline for EN vtubers so everything is always going to look like a failure in comparison. Shame EN history didn't look more like ID, starting small and growing over time. That would have spared us this "EN is dead" nonsense that has been going on for 2 years now.

>>59051197
She deserved her recline, arrogant bitch

>>59051091
No, because people are going to realize she isn't appearing as a loli all the time.
>>59051117
>constant
But she herself is not one.

>>59050488
The rest of council is fine, Bae is streaming regularly, Mumei is streaming regularly, Kronii always had low output, but Fauna is just a lazy fucking untalented whore who decided to spurn her fans

>>59051297
>but Fauna is just a lazy fucking untalented whore who decided to spurn her fans
Couldn't hold it in, could you? lol

Miko can't join the Minecraft arc collab (NekoNekoFinyancial) due to external scheduling (himehina collab).

>>59050723
This season's hidden MMR bullshit is so bad. The most tolerable game mode currently is the event mode without any matchmaking. Queue times are also getting worse with 80% of the playerbase being in China.

>>59051291
So what good do all those subs do if they aren't going to show up for streams? Should I move on to Marine next? She should be a regular 80k streamer with her sub growth.

>>59051355
>She should be a regular 80k streamer with her sub growth.
Yes.

>>59050833
Flayon will overlap him

>>59051170
that could be cool.

>>59051291
Her numbers are constant, it's just her streams which aren't. By this metric everyone should be shitting on Ayame though.

>>59050297

>>59050997
in case you're a newfag, we already know ccv is irrelevant and had nothing to do with subs. that's how yt algo works. subs only had correlation to vods and shorts.

>>59051170
your looking for /nasfaqg/ this is /#/ schizo&bots

>>59051424
>everyone should be shitting on Ayame though.
I mean people do that part anyways

Which of them would work better as a chuba and why?

>>59051170
discuss this retard

>>59051424
kek, back in July and early August the thread was all hyped because Gura was back and things were going to be different, only for it to go exactly the same as usual.

>>59050778
Oh you weren't bullshitting. I wish I could understand, it's hard to parse Miko Japanese with my limited knowledge
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1932145265?t=2h50m31s

>>58983816

>>59051170
there's already a place for that >>58977710
this place is to contain a retard who likes numbers

towa

>>59051424
>By this metric everyone should be shitting on Ayame though.
The fact Ayame is the goto "escape hatch" when people are talking about Gura constancy should be enough proof that people indeed make the same comments about her.
Gura has one extra burden on her shoulders tho: she's the most subscribed vtuber in the world, with puts a lot of extra envious eyes over her

>>59051585
Banana

>>59051585
's banana...
>Captcha: PNP20

>>59051197
I wonder if they would have kneeled and called her ****-sama like her manager does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssbrC7l8fWU
>Call in the reinforcements
Surprise drawing collab for Ina tonight?

>>59051560
That miComet idol cover is doing so fucking bad. People are sick of miComet and are likely out on syuisei. Suisei didn't even fo to Flare's live, proving once again that Suisei does not care about hololive.

>>59051585
is this real

>>59051721
Holy shit dude, slow the fuck down and learn English.

>>59051541
>comes in whenever she feels like it
>destroys absolutely everyone in terms of numbers
>doesn't feel like streaming anymore
>leaves for a couple months
>restarts the cycle

>>59051585
Now you've done it

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>169,412: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>85,398: Hololive DEV_IS (Hololive)
>74,028: Flare (Hololive)
>37,864: Aqua (Hololive)
>27,421: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>26,804: Pekora (Hololive)
>26,704: Okayu (Hololive)
>22,039: Fuwamoco (Hololive)
>17,083: Luca (Nijisanji)
>15,771: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>14,033: Uki (Nijisanji)
>13,576: Botan (Hololive)
>13,288: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,968: Watame (Hololive)
>11,966: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>11,641: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,356: Ange (Nijisanji)
>10,927: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,619: Subaru (Hololive)

Gold for Lauren for the remaining Edengumi 3D debut with Hololive DEV_IS getting silver for the ReGloss x HoloX collab and an unfortunately timed Flare anniversary with bronze

>>59051424
You don't remember all the X days since Ayame streamed threads, newfag?

>>59051777
>destroys absolutely everyone
*Destroys other EN members. She still can't put a scratch on the bigger JP members.
Who fucking cares, she's already over streaming as a whole.

>>59051797
6-13 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead

Here's a couple things that I thought about recently
>streaming is an inherently niche medium
streaming as a form of entertainment is extremely niche and limited. Tv shows, vidya and short form edited videos absolutely mog the shit out of it. I've seen literal celebrities and sports stars try streaming and getting abysmal results. I keep hearing fags talk about Hololive needing to appeal to normalfags and go outside of the weeb sphere while completely ignoring that Pokémon is the biggest franchise on the planet and the OP show just became the most watched TV Show on Netflix breaking a fuckton of records. The real growth for Hololive would be to expand its media influence instead of just trying to boost streaming numbers.
>male Vtubers can work
male Vtubers can work but they need a complete fucking revolution. Luxiem is unironically the peak of what they can achieve. As it stands right now they'll never go beyond appealing to fujo sisters and it has nothing to do with muh brotubers cope.
Look at fucking Gorillaz but also a lot of recent rappers using cartoon mascots and pop culture iconography for their image. Imo that's the future of male Vtubers. The anime avatar needs to be an actual boost and not an eye candy for sisters who are masturbate to Genshin Impact. Hell I'll even say that prime Mori is a great example of what I'm talking about.

>>59051719
Ina my beloved....

I know the Niji off Collab flopped hard but what about their super chats?

>>59051541
And the next time she starts streaming you will get "KNEEL" posting . It's actually annoying now.

>>59051797
FWMC ah ah ah

>>59051870
to be fair the audience for streaming is always growing

>>59051846
>spoiler
pls gura just settle down and have a family at this point

>>59051828
Then why saying that Myth is a failure because of inconsistency when JP2 has both Ayame and Shion who barely ever stream?

>>59051945
Is that actually true though? It's been some time since I saw someone post data but the last I saw was that stream viewership on the whole was reclining from covid numbers and showed no signs of recovery.

>>59051977
Now now, there's enough labels for failures to go around. Each is unique!

Marine premiering a cover at 8 PM Pacific. I don't think I've seen a JP use this timeslot before?

>>59052021
>covid numbers
kek covid is a cope, streaming is growing

>>59051719
I wonder who's gonna come. I expect Kiara or Mori because they basically take any opportunity to collab with anyone.

>>59051870
sure, but you will need dudes with commitment and at least a little bit of talent.

>>59051541
To be honest things were looking optimistic with her 6 hour streams and her collabing again and then all of a sudden that just stopped and it just made it seem like she was flexing on Advent.

>>59052050
use this timeslot for a cover premiere/release I mean

>>59051797
TOTAL NIJI DOMINATION

>>59051797
SEPTEMBER 2023 GOLD
>1) 45,789: Aqua (Hololive) APEX [24]
>2) 64,229: Iroha (Hololive) New outfit reveal [34]
>3) 82,404: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft [30]
>4) 51,829: Marine (Hololive) Parasocial [15]
>5) 48,521: Pekora (Hololive) Armored Core VI [22]
>6) 106,673: Subaru (Hololive) Oozora Police Minecraft
>7) 63,855: Hololive (Hololive) HoloPro 6th Anniversary with Gen0 [17]
>8) 95,311: Botan (Hololive) Menya Botan 3D Birthday 2023 [17]
>9) 110,230: Kanade (Hololive) Debut stream [33]
>10) 129,722: Raden (Hololive) Debut stream [29]
>11) 65,412: Rion (Nijisanji) Owarematen [24]
>12) 47,019: Hajime (Hololive) First utawaku [24]
>13) 58,901: Hololive (Hololive) Blue Journey 1st Live free part [19]
>14) 42,314: Chiroru (Indie) Baseball watchalong [27]
>15) 37,114: NeruMero (Indie) Genshin [25]
>16) 33,478: Lui (Hololive) New outfit reveal [25]
>17) 80,549: Okayu (Hololive) Minecraft [33]
>18) 58,935: Kronii (Hololive) 3D Showcase [28]
>19) 54,746: Subaru (Hololive) SMOK lie-detector [20]
>20) 41,305: Miko (Hololive) Soul Calibur VI [18]
>21) 53,912: Hajime (Hololive) Clubhouse 51 Hajime vs Raden part 1 [20]
>22) 169,412: Lauren (Nijisanji) 3D Nipples [19]


> PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji
2x: Indie

> PER STREAMER
2x: Hololive, Subaru, Miko, Hajime
1x: Aqua, Iroha, Marine, Pekora, Botan, Kanade, Raden, Rion, Chiroru, NeruMero, Lui, Okayu, Kronii, Lauren

>>59052055
>streaming is growing
now that is cope everyones numbers are on a downward trend even big flesh stream are getting half the ccv they had before

>>59051797

>>59052055
ssg /#/ just reply with cope instead of data, never change

>Fubuking after game zatsu still almost 10k
not bad

>>59052124
Just spreading, 2019 had Classic WoW which was getting 500k CCV 24/7 split across the top 90% of WoW streamers

>>59052106
>>22) 169,412: Lauren (Nijisanji) 3D Nipples [19]
>3D Nipples

>>59051797

>>59051585
purple.

>>59051870
Kys fagoo

>>59052195
helmet

Nipple lewds? Nipple lewds!

>>59051565
>>59051429
thanks for sharing that
i think nasfaq follows the real stock market too closely, and the prices feel disconnected from what we care about, which is streams
doing something like saltybet in which 2 streams are pitted against each would be more fun
imagine people betting virtual points on who will get the higher peak view count of the luxiem & noctyx collab versus the fuwamoco fubuki collab
>>59051516
sexo

>>59051765
The english was fine hoshi shitter. Suisei will graduate soon and I will laugh at you for not accepting my thoughts.

>>59052076
Sometimes I wonder if Gura acts like a complete bitch behind the scenes.

>>59052236
lol

>>59052229
But I don't see any nipples

>>59052220

>>59051797
.

>>59052229

JWU, how many records did the nijiboyz offcollab break?

I wanna fuck a sheep

>>59050750

>>59052240
More like an unreasonable child that wants to start and stop things on a whim. Long history of just going cold turkey on friends and family and then popping up months later like nothing happened. There's no reason for that part to change just because she joined Hololive.

>>59052236
This, all Suisei lovers are ESL and are very against the idea that Suisei will leave Hololive despite Suisei hinting as much during mengen streams.

>>59052278

>>59052296
that's healthy and natural

>>59052305
hidden character?

>>59052279
Broke recent Gumei's waiting room record.

>>59052279
More scs than Gura's anniversary

>>59052142

>>59052305
Unironically what was Cover thinking kek?
>We need a theme for our new gen
>I know, let's ripoff Final Fantasy

>>59052240
Gura is pic related behind the scene

>>59052305
Is flare supposed to have bigger tits than Marine?

>>59049418
>>59049342
Who is this Cutie?

>>59051797
>bot king gets gold

>>59052332

>>59052319
Yeah, they're in a world of hurt soon lol
They will turn into Cover antis like fandeads and dragon fuckers before them
It will feel so amazing when they get their punishment.

>>59052332
my oshi!!!! my love !!!! my darling!!! some day I will meet you Ichika chan

>>59052405
Yes.

>>59052411

>>59050678
idk man...
I guess it's just weird seeing girls like Pekora and Miko - who are complete spergs irl - put out highly entertaining content almost every other day... and then you come back to EN and their biggest chuuba is perma afk and their second biggest just focusses on her music and puts no effort into improving the stream experience...
Sora has been continuously streaming with very few breaks since 2017. That's like 6 fucking years. And she also does albums, recordings and a bunch of music related shit behind the scenes.
There's a reason no one shitposts against daisenpai, despite her being a "homo collaber" as some tards here would put it.
None of that shit matters when it comes to the #1 thing in this industry - love for your fans.

Sora LOVES her Soratomo and that comes through in pretty much EVERYTHING she does.
Koyori loves her Joshukun, and she streams for them almost every other day. She GRINDED her way into a position in the 2nd army.
Pekora adores her nousagi, and hates it when people shit on them. She also cherishes all the gifts she got from her fans (before the gifting ban).
Migo loves her 35p, even the 45p.
Onigiriya get treated to the ultimate GFE in Okayu mengen.
Korone abuses the fuck out of Koronesuki, but her fans know it's just her way of showing love.

It's not like the EN girls HATE their fanbase or anything.. but the amount of time/effort that they put into their content absolutely PALES in comparison to the majority of JP members.
Kaela jerry-rigged a PC/Laptop setup in Japan JUST so that she could stream to her fans during her 3D recording visit. Which EN girl would ever bother to go to such lengths?
And obviously the fanbase understands that it's probably not practical to do such things, or waste so much money just to be able stream for a week or two.. I doubt that Pemaloe would've minded Kaela taking a couple of weeks break for this recording - they have plenty of VODs to watch already.
But she didn't, because she wanted to spend time with her fans after recordings and talk about stuff or just chill and play games.

The only EN girls that are MAYBE like that, are Fuwamoco. Old Gura used to be like this too.. but nowadays it's pretty obvious that she's gotten tired of her fanbase and fame (maybe Bijou too).
The CGDCT group are "fine". Like, they put in what the job and the fans demand enough that they will continue having dedicated people support them.
But none of them go "beyond" that y'know.. you never really get that feeling of "damn, this girl REALLY loves us" sort of feelings with the first 2 EN gens.
You never get that feeling of GLORY that you get watching Marine and her friends replicate the entirety of the 80's Showa musical atmosphere with fucking VTUBERS.
You never get that rush of seeing Pekora building up a story arc, or setting up a tournament.
You never experience the sheer side splitting comedy of Migo or Korone laughing at the most absurd shit you can think of.
You never experience the pure JOY of seeing your oshi try their fucking hardest for (YOU)!

Maybe this is just pessimistic, maybe it's just a cultural thing of prioritizing yourself first and THEN others that sets things up like this.. but I just feel like it SHOULDN'T be you know? EN VTubers CAN and SHOULD be able to reach those levels.. I daresay they could even SURPASS some of them.. but I just haven't seen that same DRIVE from the girls that are supposed to be the DRIVERS of the branch..
I can only hope that Advent will prove me wrong in time...

>>59052447

>>59051797
>85,398: Hololive DEV_IS (Hololive)
>74,028: Flare (Hololive)
>37,864: Aqua (Hololive)
>26,804: Pekora (Hololive)
>26,704: Okayu (Hololive)
>22,039: Fuwamoco (Hololive)
hololive in peak top form as usual.

>>59052489
sonny.png

This fag really thinks we can't see xim replying to ximself kek

>>59052489
Mucho texto

>>59052396
that has barely anything to do with Final Fantasy. I do agree that's simplistic and cliche the theme though.

>>59052498

look at all that sperging kek

>>59052489
chumbuds exagerrate the lack of effort of the other girls all the time

>>59052381
>SC cope
How many Vox nendos sold after the collab, sis?

new record?

>>59052538

>>59052489
Okay, someone link that clip of Gura talking about how the twins interact and treat their fans and saying that she needs to do something similar before ghosting them for three weeks.

>>59052489
i just got out of work and was reading manuals, i ain't reading that now man

>>59052575

>>59052545

>>59052489
Okay now try not ignoring the other 70% of the JP roster.

>>59052489
Bae Mori and Kiara put it tons of effort even when traveling and look what that gets them. It's a different audience. The EN audience is just twitch adjacent low attention span viewers that don't care about effort.

>>59052070
It's true but EVEN if they managed to find some genuinely talented dude he would still fail and back at just farming fujo money after a couple months. Again they need to completely change their strategy and stop trying to make Stars just gender swapped Holos.
Take the spic dude from Tempoop. Last I heard the dude is a pretty decent singer. Why not making him a metal mariacho? It's a unique brand and pretty stylish. Dias de los muertos stuff is pretty popular lately too. And weeb metal can absolutely work.
Instead he's a random isekai adventurer who looks like a Genshit character.

NERISSA AISHITE AISHITE AISHITE THREE MILLION GETTO DAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>59051797
Holo keks destroyed, La+ 3d debut SHATTERED

>>59052620

>>59052629
Those three have their own set of issues not related to working hard.

>>59052586
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PfTFVI1tPk

>>59052637
That was like two days ago or something

>>59052489
People keep bringing up Kaela and I'm going to be honest with you, I don't get it. The workload is clearly extremely different.

Take Fauna for example, still tried to stream in her Japan stay, but she had
1. Choreography learning/Recording to do for Splash Party
2. Choreography learning/Recording to do for her showcase, in which she did FIVE songs, which is not normal for her
3. Recording for Kawaiikute Gomen
4. Possibly other shit too that will be trickling in slowly.

I was a bit upset with her, I won't lie, but when you put it into perspective she had been doing a LOT in a short amount of time. So streaming less MADE SENSE. Until I see something similar for Kaela than I really don't see why people are even comparing.

How come long time fleshstreamers can start from near nothing and can incline to massive heights over years and keep growing while HoloEN members can be granted a huge audience from day 1 and only seem to decline? Where is the disconnect.

>>59051797
Well if it was Bots then Holokek would have proof with the graph huh? So where is it?

https://youtu.be/On90ZNufszQ
>Pekora hates Regloss
Why is she like this bros

>>59052666

https://youtu.be/dFHgWo_lTPc

>>59052707
Why do you think, anon?

>>59052388

>>59052570
nope tomoe had the same $135k, and many others are above her. He did get ~4x what scamlome had recently, though.

>>59052305
A reminder that Gen 4 was initially meant to be a sequel to FANTASY. A Fantasy 2 which was scrapped for obvious reasons.

#’s is just posting JAV whores now?

>>59052068
its not a collab she said she asked other holomems for their wips and she was gonna work on them or finish them. she didnt say who she had lined up though

>>59052689
>Where is the disconnect
You cherry-picking.

>>59052707
>Homo Shills trying to leech
>she dodges them
sound based to me

>>59051945
Twitch has been reclining since 2021 though still way above pre-coof
I can't find a non-paywalled source for YT

>>59052768
Ina will never fucking finish that Fauna drawing and I'm still mad at the Takos for not choosing it for her birthday and selfishly opting for emotes they would've gotten anyway

>>59052106
Big spread of gold medals amongst different Holo girls. Fun to see it not just be Pekora.

>random Gura/Myth seethe
Even on THE day they finally are able to win something RUMAO
I guess the offcollab flopping miserably finally broke their minds

>>59052709

>>59052764
That JAV whores can torture my nipples anytime

>>59052806
>random

>>59052793
and here's the EN specific graph

>>59052689
Not having an Omegay to take all the credit is a good start.

>>59052807

>>59052806
Permanent feature.

>>59052689
For hololive there is the expectation of consistency, endurance and females only.
It gets forgotten about but Gura for example had a large audience of literal children.
To keep children as an audience, she would have had to pump out content without ever taking months of break. 3 weeks every 6months or so would probably be the max, while maintaining 3-5 streams a week.

>>59052742
Raden copied her laugh, she's going to sue her

>>59052798
hehe seethe.

>>59052707
No wonder she and Gura get along KEK!!!

>>59051601
Also, Ayame and Shion communicate regularly with their fans on social media.

>>59052851

>>59051540
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1932145265?t=2h48m57s
> Miko had a scary dream
> HoloEN also appeared
> It was when she was abroad with Suichan
> In the foreign hotel lobby, she dreamed about ghosts and shit
> When she opened her eyes the suitcase was open, and when she blinked the suitcase was moving (in the dream)
> It scared her
> HoloEN also appeared.. who was it? someone was singing..
> Miko doesn't remember all the songs from the EN members, so it's basically just the music or feelings she got from the dream
> yeah Fauna appeared, she was singing, and I wondered what if that was an EN orisong
> So I quickly woke up, went to their channels, and listened to all of their songs
> But it was a completely different song

>>59052883

>>59052676
Those comments are just wonderful little time capsules of a brighter future the chumbuds imagined.

>>59052798
For people that stream so close to each other, the amount of interaction between Fauna and Ina is risibly low.
The only time they really talked about each other was about that offcollab, but since then one might as well not exist for the other, really weird

>>59052886

>>59052689
Vshojo had 3 11k ccv streamers once upon a time too…….

Also my fleshstreamer oshi hasn’t inclined and stagnated for the past 3 yrs

>>59052874
Fuck you nigga it was Ina's better pieces because it didn't actually have her sameface issue

>>59052689
>headcanon
Streaming has been reclining, provide proof of your claim or pound sand.
>>59052793
>>59052841

>>59051870
>streaming is a niche medium
The solution to this issue is simple:
Streaming needs to organize itself like network television does if you want to provide live entertainment content. The problem with that is that the people currently engaging in the format are people who never held a job worth a damn or don't want to lead a life on a fixed schedule, so you will never get the actual talent that can make something like that work.

The other solution is to diversify into pre-recorded content, which a of people are already doing, but the quality of content varies to wildly so that the net effect is barely positive. You would need to have an organization with really deep pockets that would be willing to turn all of these rank amateurs into actual superstars by producing content on the quality of network television at the bare minimum. Let's not even think of the prospect of an anime because none of these girls can act for shit outside of the eternal LARP.

>male vtubers can work
Yes, but the only people willing to give up being visible in the flesh for fame are maladjusted individuals sex pests, mentally ill freaks and... women. So long as men can be infinitely more successful being an entertainer in the flesh (and they don't even need to do that), male vtubers will continue to be the butt of the jokes coming out of the mouths of anyone with common sense.

>>59052707
Reminder they share the same studio with the homos so they may interact on a daily basis just like any other coworker.

>>59052689
>Anon is unaware of how many flesh streamers have tanked.

>>59052763
>scrapped for obvious reasons
what reasons?

>>59052763
>Obvious reasons
Which are?

>>59052944
Ina is probably just as bad as Gura for not interacting with people on Discord. Probably the only reason she never collabed with the homos

>>59052689
Literally all streamers started declining after the coof went away.

>>59053041
source

>>59052752
>a yacht so big there's another yacht on it
is jork. that's a small boat, right

>>59052689
ENshart problem. JP just keeps getting stronger ;)

>>59052689
Don’t look at XQC ….. he used to average 80-100k during the coof…..

>>59052907
spooky

>>59052489
Agreed, this is majority of the reason why I gave up on watching En except for a select few.The management and the girls don't seem to give a fuck so why should the fans?

>>59053053
There are charts in this thread nigger, scroll up

>>59050701
What's up with the Enterprise picture?

>>59052944
Reminder their first 1 on 1 collab was forced at a convention. The only other times they interact is in a group setting.

>>59053073
I really wonder why.

>>59053112
>none

>>59053053
Do your own homework? Twitchtracker.com

>>59052689
You retard, multiple fleshies have reclined from the COVID heydays. It's just that, due to there being more competition, the cycle of fleshies rides and falls faster than vtubers in Japan, where Hololive and Nijisanji have held on to the top spots for the most part.

Did Fauna mention her streaming status for today?

>>59053140
>>59052793
>>59052841
Kill yourself

>>59052907
>Fauna singing
JESUS CHRIST HOW HORRIFYING

>>59053166
Nijiseethe.

Is that the woman from the nipple pinching porn?

Mumei is not sexy. Owls are not sexy.

>>59053156
SC reading with possible hitman after she is done

>>59053166
meant for >>59053136

>>59053156
Superchats. If she finishes them fast enough, more Hitman.

>>59052944
Fauna is jealous of how well Ina gets along with kronii, they hate each other unronically

>>59052489
Because the ones who put in effort get shit views while the lazy ass ones are get easy stuff. The EN fanbase doesn't reward hard workers like the JP fanbase does.

>>59053166
>>59053140
>Shows viewers spreading and not declining
Explains the crop

Let’s hope todays is an extra shitty day so people get it out of their system, tomorrow with FWMC karaoke and Muneis showcase is going to be amazing

>>59052689
Man, I really miss Myth's prime. There was just so much happiness in the EN sphere around 2020 and 2021, and even though I still appreciate the girls, it just feels like 2022 put an end to that period.
I'd give a lot to be able to see that energy back.

>>59053197
>Owls are not sexy
explain this

>>59053275
Damn qirl those legs go all the way up

>>59053007
The brand name was DOA and had no long lasting impact so Cover put more emphasis on the gens being numbered. Gen3Gen4Gen5

Next HoloEN x NijiEN collab soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VGprSwXhcc&t=4752

>>59052676
What the fuck was she thinking lmao

>>59053308
This shit is so old IT'S ALREADY DIRT.

>>59052489
People generally don't want to venture out of their comfort zone, those who disagree with your point never watched the JPs that actually exude dedication towards their fans.
>Greets their fans and updates how their day goes every single day
>Streams whenever possible just to talk with their fans
>Put out projects/songs which more often than not are monetary losses simply because they think it makes the fans happy
>Spend big portions of their everyday lives just thinking up ideas for streams
>Even when they're frustrated due to unexpected roadblocks in their plans, they soldier on and put on a smile because their motto is to show their best side to the fans on stream.

We're elevating

>>59053308
AIEEEE Mumeisanji !!

Nijisanji updated numbers after nippleman 3D

Top 10 Peak viewers
1. Hyakumantenbara Salome 177,841
2. Lauren iroas 09/22 169, 402
3. Leos Vincent 159,319
4. Fuwa Minato 143,270
5. Kagami Hayato 132,381
6. Debidebi Debiru 119,092
7. Ibrahim 117,475
8. Oliver Evans 116,648
9. Watarai Hibari 111, 013
10. Lain Paterson 104,790

Top 10 Superchat
1. Fushimi Gaku ¥23,324,000
2. Lauren iroas ¥19,840,000
3. Leos Vincent ¥18,460,000
4. Fuwa Minato ¥16,358,272
5. Haru Kaida ¥15,615,000
6. Ibrahim ¥14,074,222
7. Nagao Kei ¥11,607,000
8. Shirayuki Tomoe ¥11,395,114
9. Kagami Hayato ¥10,269,624
10. Watarai Hibari ¥9,002,000

>>59053308
Didn't she already have that one? The one with Axel and altroon

>>59053359
That's literally Kiara tho.

>>59053300
Sounds like a repeat of Dev7oss.

>>59053253
>Moom showcase loses to kronii
>people shitpost
>beats kornii
>people shitpost
there's no "get it out of their system" as you put

>>59053359
Again this is mostly a Gura problem and chumbuds should stop trying to spread the blame to the rest of EN

>>59053318
Who knows? She's been dead silent on all social media and hasn't tweeted at all since her anniversary.

>>59052676
This is Gura's issue, honestly. She always talks big and then never follows through with it. I don't even think I can count on one hand anymore how many times she said she needs to communicate more. And then there's shit like this.

>/vt/ Unicorn friendly girls
Gura
Fauna
Mumei
Ina
Kiara
IRyS
Biboo
FWMC
Nerissa
Shiori

>Japanese hardcore Unicorn friendly girls
Kronii
Ina
Bae
FWMC

What's their theme?

>>59053387
This stream was last week

>>59053440
Anyone who replies to this post after me is a sister

>>59053359
So still going to ignore most of the other JPs?

>>59053444
no theme

>>59053408
>chumbuds

>>59053440
>NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES

>>59053440
I love Hololive. All JP member discussions are posted by me and my friends

>>59053440
The japanese always had it right desu

>>59053426
Nothing will change though because in Yagoos eyes shes doing great. That award just won her 1 more year of not streaming

>>59053444
Circus performers

>>59050723
Aqua can do it
she just needs consistency and remember to take breaks
we dont want a reeptition of 2021 solomas when she collapsed

>>59053387
She said Hololive