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>>59049342not a vtuber
This one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae1BV8Suk0A
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>>59049409Cute
Delicious seething
>>59049342>>59049418Who is this semen demon?
>>59046194Source?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok
Thread is a bit late. I need the continuation of the 2 fags(or 1 schizo) going back and forth last thread.
>>59041426Recent clip numbers>>59035486 >>59035514 >>59035536 >>59035560 >>59035585
>>59049441wtf I was told it was cripple confirmed! That it wouldn't slip! Drats! I will never forgive the sisters!
Vtubers for this feel?
>>59049342huh?
>>59049441FWMC comes in with the clutch save. Dont forget this when you guys decide to shit on them.
>HOLOLIVE BOARD>HOLOLIVE THREAD
>>59049529Mori.
>>59049529Usada Pekora when she puts an effort
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05ST8IN0M9o&abhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05ST8IN0M9o&abNEW BUFF GAME ALERT
Last thread we had a wide range of topics discussed, from dick size to Niji botting. /#/ is inclining.
What were the FWMC numbers?
>>59049441>>59049461MORE
>>59049548>>59049511>>59049418>>59049342The nips really love their SHIMPURU IZZU BESUTO huh. Lucia's design is great and so iconic.
>>59049544>Dont forget this when you guys decide to shit on themThose are seething Nijisisters tho. I expect even more FWMC seething from now on.
>>59049441Ducky is a fucking retard.
>>59049529Kaela minecraft stream
>>59049606>we
>>59049548Are >we posting ghosts now?
ID always on top of NijiEN nowadays
>>59049595Gura love to play that.>4-playersSNOT stream!!! for november
So nijilewds?
>>59049595UWOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GURA'S COMEBACK
>>59049685I still love her.
>>59049606>seething faggots humiliating themselves and sperging out seethepost after seethepost
>>59049683Yes anon, we are the cult of numbers, otherwise called the secret society. We are the most influential thread.
https://youtu.be/Ni-p4ucNbyAwhoever drew her here should take over. Anime Flare is beautiful
>YAGOOs Dream xDI hate this one the most
>>59049441Baubau nijikeks
>>59049701>trash and garbage
We're Inclining as a thread
>>59049652Nijisisters and pebbles usually
>>59049701>unarchived valorant what is this autism?
>>59049754seethe. THIS IS POPULAR DEMANDDDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>59049731I don't see any difference with an usual day here.
>>59049714>>59049730https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcT3FXcuLngdon't give me hope
>>59049529Raden
>>59049701>merge soon
>>59049768Sis don't call your nijishitters like that
>>59049787>screenshotting your own postkimoi
>>59049701I find it funny Fulgur is so fat, he doesn't want to go to the offpako.
>>59049746Poor Flare. No dance sequence so there's nothing for the tiktok drones to latch onto for free views/subs.
>>59049685Howdie the sugar~
>>59049847Gotta keep some curry for everyone, please andastand.
>>59049658He has a tattoo of a vtuber who hates him.
>>59049787How DARE you reply to me Nijitrash?!?
>>59049746idd she looks great
>>59049860>Howdie*Howdy
>>59049847But he was there, or is this clickbait?
>>59049685
So, I went and checked Gura's streams since Calisto protocol, the last game before she went on a major health break.In that timespan, from Dec 7th 2022 to now, she has done a total of 32 public streams, of which 6 of those were literal mandated streams that she had no control over. Meaning, she's only streamed for viewers 26 times on her own free will.To further contextualize this, if we assume there are 30 days in a month and subtract 7 days from this month, Gura as of right now is averaging 1 stream per 10 days. Yes, she averages about 3 streams a month right now.Even worse, this got boosted by the week of hardcore streaming when Advent came out. Without those she'd be averaging close to 1 stream every 2 weeks.
>>59049940Really?That's what you focused on?
>>59049934I am a forgotten entity
>>59049746Person behind flare's new song, no wonder it's good
>>59049860Are you trying to say, 'Howdy there, Sugar?'
>>59049746Atelier is actually so good. Looping for 2 hours now
>>59050040Ogey
It's over, isn't it?
Oh yeah, nippleboy's 3D was today wasn't it?Guessing he got Gold and 150k right?
>>59049860>the*There
So happy I didnt join today's thread with you retards around.
>>59050040no biggie, chumbuds don't need any streams.
>>59049701Owari da
>>59049943I guess they tried to do the Gurame surprise offcollab gimmick, since Fatgur was streaming normally, except it didn't boost their numbers at all.
>>59050082>Sugar*Shugger
C'mon girls.
r8
>>59050107Yeah and holocope is exquisite
>>59050157
>Gura is basically retired>Ame is burnt out and hates (you)>Ina is phoning it in hard>Mori>kiara is to debuff to pull the gen out this nose diveso is myth basically dead?
>Enter Numberfag General Thread>Thread quality has reached an all time low because of a flood of ESL postingIt's Euro hours... I should've known.
>>59050260?
>>59050040She's focusing on her music
>>59050260Yes, we live off of Advent and Fauna now.
>>59050260yes, but aren't allowed to point it out
>>59050260Pray for Fauna and Kronii or council is next
Looks like YouTube knows in which thread I lurk the most.
Tempiss status?!?
>>59050260You forgot>still casually mog NijiCN offcollabs even while being 3 years old
>>59050297SEA hours are just ending chill mate
>>59050297You never fool anyone.
>>59050260EN4 ACCELERATE NOW NOW NOW!!!!!!!!
>>59050366Haven't thought of them in over a month.Haven't had more than 1 video per month recommended from them all summer.
>>59050381Your welcome.
>>59050260I will never forgive myth for what they did to the branch
>>59050260So a "basically dead" gen still completely dominates all other EN chuubas, while being supported by a great set of kouhais. Seems like HoloEN is winning hard as usual.
>>59050429No, he's anon, not welcome, that would be a weird name
>>59050421Almost everyone in Advent has dogwhistled /#/ already, why do they love us so much?
>>59050322>>59050358FauFau and the rest of council are starting to head down the same path myth, this was never a problem for jp since they have so many girls
According to my life-long research, this is actually the most feminine ReGloss girl. I will now ope panel for debate
>>59050260wonder how despite all this NijiEN cant incline not even a little
>>59050508I've seen niji homos more feminine though...
>>59049441kek
>>59050508you're goddam right
>>59050508>draw a male>call it a girlwhat the fuck is wrong with Japan?
>>59049722oh yeah we are posting ship waifus!or portuguese
>>59050508>Ririka is actually a nerd >Kanade is retarded>Hajime is retadeder>Raden smokes>Ao screams like girl when scaredI agree with this anon
>>59050260>>Gura is basically retiredInvolved in background stuff. She has a high position in holoEN. Especially on the managerial side of things.>>Ame is burnt out and hates (you)Same as Gura but to a lesser extent. Expect a guerilla very soon.>>Ina is phoning it in hardToo busy having sweaty lovey dovey love making with yours truly.>>MoriShe will Collab with all you oshis and you will like it. Mori does have the seconds highest golds, you know.>>kiara is to debuff to pull the gen out this nose diveNerissa will save her Oshi. Trust the process of things.
https://twitter.com/amanekanatach/status/1705261093411778891https://twitter.com/amanekanatach/status/1705261093411778891https://twitter.com/amanekanatach/status/1705261093411778891HUH?
>>59050508built for proneboning
>>59050260I don't understand how some people treat Myth as if it was a failure. They were expected to barely break 100k subs around their debuts, and still ended up being arguably the biggest generation of Hololive in some domains, it's normal for them to slow down after 3 years. Overlooking their success is just stupid.
>>59050661Yeah they had this Dark Souls collab planned from way before Kanata's break
What do you nerds think about my chart?
>>59050678Exceeded everything, but where are things now with them? What is going on with EN compared to JP, what's so different in terms of growth, fanbase, and so on?
>>59049342>>59049418who?
>>59050260Yes but they still lasted more than Tempiss and NijiEN. And despite everything no western Vtuber managed to ever reached their heights and most likely never will.
>>59050590Ohey, it's Mulanon. Go hang out at /rgg/ sometimes, we kinda need some Ao stans in there anyway.
>>59050654>Involved in background stuff. She has a high position in holoEN. Especially on the managerial side of things.Do we literally have any big piece of proof or evidence she's been majorly involved with anything behind the scenes with EN in the last three months?
>>59050723such a fucking drag, shell never complete it
FAUNA MENTION ON MIKO STREAM
Where is the daily tally?
>>59050678You can't live forever in the past
>>59050750
>>59050654>She will Collab with all you oshis and you will like it.How about no
Just got off my shift at the coal mines and holy shit, Lauren (I know who this is) is now the most important vtuber? I always knew she had it in her. So proud of her.
>>59050421do you have the soundpost for their "we got the numbers!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=who-PWgfi8Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=who-PWgfi8Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=who-PWgfi8ECriple gold
>>59050678Exceeding expectations just magnifies the size of the decline anon
>>59050833Bots are going to overheat at this point
>>59050622Counterpoint: Correcting lesbian is hot
>>59050771... you want my mental illness there? I mean I don't mind since you invited me, you have cookies? I bring a case of beer
>>59050678That was a shitpost but nowhere in that post at all says Myth is a failure. You're kind of putting words in the shitposters mouthAnyways, everyone recognizes the success myth had. What people ask is what did they do with that success, and the answer is... Well, pretty much absolutely nothing apart from Mori, and even that is questionable because in return for getting a record label deal, she lost almost all of her fanbase gradually over time. The unfortunate reality is myth didn't do anything past their initial years worth of success and to this day have so little to show for it. Gura, in 3 years, STILL only has 1 official song release. She's literally the most recognized for her singing yet has been unable to put out.. anything at all. And the others all have their slight ups and major downs.
>>59050678>All those dead subs>SuccessKek. ENfags and their echo chamber
>>59050733Compare what's comparable, the EN bow is way smaller than the JP one. And by EN standards, they're doing as pretty well.Gura keeps gaining subs even without streaming, Mori has some big stuff going on musically, Ina keeps pandering to the same niche as she did for the past years, and it's really just Ame and Kiara who are more sidelined, which is obviously more surprised for Ame, who's had a great career early on.
>>59050723>averages about +500RP a stream, +100RP an hour>needs ~100 more hours, ~20 streams>Season ends first week of NovemberShe gets around 40 days left and she's been doing a stream every 2 days Can she do it bros? can she get solo master on the hardest ranked season yet?
>>59050867Yes
>>59050963>Gura keeps gaining subs even without streamingWhat good does that exactly do if none of them bother showing up to the 3 streams a month she does?
Micomet overseas trip summary on Sunday JST. Gold contender
>>59050366Ngl, i forgot they exist.
>>59051016it's over for Mumei.. only Kronii gold..
>>59050997>What good does that exactly doBig number>Small number
>>59050997Judging by your logic Ui's next stream should be 100k right?
>>59050969If she's able to maintain that consistency, sure. The biggest wall is once she get to Diamond since it will be -75 instead of -50 for early death.
>>59050997She's a constant 5view, which is already something I haven't seen any other EN vtuber being. It's like asking why Pekora doesn't have an average CCV of 40k or more every stream.
>>59050678This always comes up as a stupid defense. "I only expected to achieve mediocrity in life, I don't want to aim for greater heights".
>>59049787
i thought /#/ would have discussion about the mathematical modeling of the factors influencing vtuber stats since the general is called fucking numberse.g. games, streaming times, streaming overlap etc and the impact on view count and subscriber growthsomething like saltybet where people could place bets on the peak view count on streamsor a simulated stock market where people buy and share shares of vtubers based on their performanceinstead its the same old /vt/ shitim disappointed
>>59050881Subs is the most important metric in Hololive. so yes, they're actually success.
>>59051170shut up nerd
https://youtu.be/G0gJSMCZyc0Wtf
>>59050775Gura is working on stuff that magically dissapears and becomes a piece of bread every day
>>590502603 fucking years and we've had a grand total of ZERO powerful story arcs from EN.Majority of EN fans still only remember the memes and shit from 3 years ago - the 'a' or Mori's RIP or smol Ame. EN has completely alienated the casual audience.
>>59051170You'd need actual intelligence for that, leave anons alone
>>59050678That went viral and flared up to great heights before falling to a more normal level. Numbers, being full of retards, uses their viral days as some sort of baseline for EN vtubers so everything is always going to look like a failure in comparison. Shame EN history didn't look more like ID, starting small and growing over time. That would have spared us this "EN is dead" nonsense that has been going on for 2 years now.
>>59051197She deserved her recline, arrogant bitch
>>59051091No, because people are going to realize she isn't appearing as a loli all the time.>>59051117>constantBut she herself is not one.
>>59050488The rest of council is fine, Bae is streaming regularly, Mumei is streaming regularly, Kronii always had low output, but Fauna is just a lazy fucking untalented whore who decided to spurn her fans
>>59051297>but Fauna is just a lazy fucking untalented whore who decided to spurn her fansCouldn't hold it in, could you? lol
Miko can't join the Minecraft arc collab (NekoNekoFinyancial) due to external scheduling (himehina collab).
>>59050723This season's hidden MMR bullshit is so bad. The most tolerable game mode currently is the event mode without any matchmaking. Queue times are also getting worse with 80% of the playerbase being in China.
>>59051291So what good do all those subs do if they aren't going to show up for streams? Should I move on to Marine next? She should be a regular 80k streamer with her sub growth.
>>59051355>She should be a regular 80k streamer with her sub growth.Yes.
>>59050833Flayon will overlap him
>>59051170that could be cool.
>>59051291Her numbers are constant, it's just her streams which aren't. By this metric everyone should be shitting on Ayame though.
>>59050297
>>59050997in case you're a newfag, we already know ccv is irrelevant and had nothing to do with subs. that's how yt algo works. subs only had correlation to vods and shorts.
>>59051170your looking for /nasfaqg/ this is /#/ schizo&bots
>>59051424>everyone should be shitting on Ayame though.I mean people do that part anyways
Which of them would work better as a chuba and why?
>>59051170discuss this retard
>>59051424kek, back in July and early August the thread was all hyped because Gura was back and things were going to be different, only for it to go exactly the same as usual.
>>59050778Oh you weren't bullshitting. I wish I could understand, it's hard to parse Miko Japanese with my limited knowledgehttps://www.twitch.tv/videos/1932145265?t=2h50m31s
>>58983816
>>59051170there's already a place for that >>58977710this place is to contain a retard who likes numbers
towa
>>59051424>By this metric everyone should be shitting on Ayame though.The fact Ayame is the goto "escape hatch" when people are talking about Gura constancy should be enough proof that people indeed make the same comments about her.Gura has one extra burden on her shoulders tho: she's the most subscribed vtuber in the world, with puts a lot of extra envious eyes over her
>>59051585Banana
>>59051585's banana...>Captcha: PNP20
>>59051197I wonder if they would have kneeled and called her ****-sama like her manager does.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssbrC7l8fWU>Call in the reinforcementsSurprise drawing collab for Ina tonight?
>>59051560That miComet idol cover is doing so fucking bad. People are sick of miComet and are likely out on syuisei. Suisei didn't even fo to Flare's live, proving once again that Suisei does not care about hololive.
>>59051585is this real
>>59051721Holy shit dude, slow the fuck down and learn English.
>>59051541>comes in whenever she feels like it>destroys absolutely everyone in terms of numbers>doesn't feel like streaming anymore>leaves for a couple months>restarts the cycle
>>59051585Now you've done it
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>169,412: Lauren (Nijisanji)>85,398: Hololive DEV_IS (Hololive)>74,028: Flare (Hololive)>37,864: Aqua (Hololive)>27,421: Kanae (Nijisanji)>26,804: Pekora (Hololive)>26,704: Okayu (Hololive)>22,039: Fuwamoco (Hololive)>17,083: Luca (Nijisanji)>15,771: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>14,033: Uki (Nijisanji)>13,576: Botan (Hololive)>13,288: Lamy (Hololive)>11,968: Watame (Hololive)>11,966: Shiina (Nijisanji)>11,641: Fubuki (Hololive)>11,356: Ange (Nijisanji)>10,927: Koyori (Hololive)>10,619: Subaru (Hololive)Gold for Lauren for the remaining Edengumi 3D debut with Hololive DEV_IS getting silver for the ReGloss x HoloX collab and an unfortunately timed Flare anniversary with bronze
>>59051424You don't remember all the X days since Ayame streamed threads, newfag?
>>59051777>destroys absolutely everyone*Destroys other EN members. She still can't put a scratch on the bigger JP members.Who fucking cares, she's already over streaming as a whole.
>>590517976-13 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead
Here's a couple things that I thought about recently>streaming is an inherently niche mediumstreaming as a form of entertainment is extremely niche and limited. Tv shows, vidya and short form edited videos absolutely mog the shit out of it. I've seen literal celebrities and sports stars try streaming and getting abysmal results. I keep hearing fags talk about Hololive needing to appeal to normalfags and go outside of the weeb sphere while completely ignoring that Pokémon is the biggest franchise on the planet and the OP show just became the most watched TV Show on Netflix breaking a fuckton of records. The real growth for Hololive would be to expand its media influence instead of just trying to boost streaming numbers.>male Vtubers can workmale Vtubers can work but they need a complete fucking revolution. Luxiem is unironically the peak of what they can achieve. As it stands right now they'll never go beyond appealing to fujo sisters and it has nothing to do with muh brotubers cope.Look at fucking Gorillaz but also a lot of recent rappers using cartoon mascots and pop culture iconography for their image. Imo that's the future of male Vtubers. The anime avatar needs to be an actual boost and not an eye candy for sisters who are masturbate to Genshin Impact. Hell I'll even say that prime Mori is a great example of what I'm talking about.
>>59051719Ina my beloved....
I know the Niji off Collab flopped hard but what about their super chats?
>>59051541And the next time she starts streaming you will get "KNEEL" posting . It's actually annoying now.
>>59051797FWMC ah ah ah
>>59051870to be fair the audience for streaming is always growing
>>59051846>spoiler pls gura just settle down and have a family at this point
>>59051828Then why saying that Myth is a failure because of inconsistency when JP2 has both Ayame and Shion who barely ever stream?
>>59051945Is that actually true though? It's been some time since I saw someone post data but the last I saw was that stream viewership on the whole was reclining from covid numbers and showed no signs of recovery.
>>59051977Now now, there's enough labels for failures to go around. Each is unique!
Marine premiering a cover at 8 PM Pacific. I don't think I've seen a JP use this timeslot before?
>>59052021>covid numberskek covid is a cope, streaming is growing
>>59051719I wonder who's gonna come. I expect Kiara or Mori because they basically take any opportunity to collab with anyone.
>>59051870sure, but you will need dudes with commitment and at least a little bit of talent.
>>59051541To be honest things were looking optimistic with her 6 hour streams and her collabing again and then all of a sudden that just stopped and it just made it seem like she was flexing on Advent.
>>59052050use this timeslot for a cover premiere/release I mean
>>59051797TOTAL NIJI DOMINATION
>>59051797SEPTEMBER 2023 GOLD>1) 45,789: Aqua (Hololive) APEX [24]>2) 64,229: Iroha (Hololive) New outfit reveal [34]>3) 82,404: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft [30]>4) 51,829: Marine (Hololive) Parasocial [15]>5) 48,521: Pekora (Hololive) Armored Core VI [22]>6) 106,673: Subaru (Hololive) Oozora Police Minecraft>7) 63,855: Hololive (Hololive) HoloPro 6th Anniversary with Gen0 [17]>8) 95,311: Botan (Hololive) Menya Botan 3D Birthday 2023 [17]>9) 110,230: Kanade (Hololive) Debut stream [33]>10) 129,722: Raden (Hololive) Debut stream [29]>11) 65,412: Rion (Nijisanji) Owarematen [24]>12) 47,019: Hajime (Hololive) First utawaku [24]>13) 58,901: Hololive (Hololive) Blue Journey 1st Live free part [19]>14) 42,314: Chiroru (Indie) Baseball watchalong [27]>15) 37,114: NeruMero (Indie) Genshin [25]>16) 33,478: Lui (Hololive) New outfit reveal [25]>17) 80,549: Okayu (Hololive) Minecraft [33]>18) 58,935: Kronii (Hololive) 3D Showcase [28]>19) 54,746: Subaru (Hololive) SMOK lie-detector [20]>20) 41,305: Miko (Hololive) Soul Calibur VI [18]>21) 53,912: Hajime (Hololive) Clubhouse 51 Hajime vs Raden part 1 [20]>22) 169,412: Lauren (Nijisanji) 3D Nipples [19]> PER COMPANY18x: Hololive2x: Nijisanji2x: Indie> PER STREAMER2x: Hololive, Subaru, Miko, Hajime1x: Aqua, Iroha, Marine, Pekora, Botan, Kanade, Raden, Rion, Chiroru, NeruMero, Lui, Okayu, Kronii, Lauren
>>59052055>streaming is growingnow that is cope everyones numbers are on a downward trend even big flesh stream are getting half the ccv they had before
>>59051797
>>59052055ssg /#/ just reply with cope instead of data, never change
>Fubuking after game zatsu still almost 10knot bad
>>59052124Just spreading, 2019 had Classic WoW which was getting 500k CCV 24/7 split across the top 90% of WoW streamers
>>59052106>>22) 169,412: Lauren (Nijisanji) 3D Nipples [19]>3D Nipples
>>59051585purple.
>>59051870Kys fagoo
>>59052195helmet
Nipple lewds? Nipple lewds!
>>59051565>>59051429thanks for sharing thati think nasfaq follows the real stock market too closely, and the prices feel disconnected from what we care about, which is streamsdoing something like saltybet in which 2 streams are pitted against each would be more funimagine people betting virtual points on who will get the higher peak view count of the luxiem & noctyx collab versus the fuwamoco fubuki collab>>59051516sexo
>>59051765The english was fine hoshi shitter. Suisei will graduate soon and I will laugh at you for not accepting my thoughts.
>>59052076Sometimes I wonder if Gura acts like a complete bitch behind the scenes.
>>59052236lol
>>59052229But I don't see any nipples
>>59052220
>>59051797.
>>59052229
JWU, how many records did the nijiboyz offcollab break?
I wanna fuck a sheep
>>59052240More like an unreasonable child that wants to start and stop things on a whim. Long history of just going cold turkey on friends and family and then popping up months later like nothing happened. There's no reason for that part to change just because she joined Hololive.
>>59052236This, all Suisei lovers are ESL and are very against the idea that Suisei will leave Hololive despite Suisei hinting as much during mengen streams.
>>59052278
>>59052296that's healthy and natural
>>59052305hidden character?
>>59052279Broke recent Gumei's waiting room record.
>>59052279More scs than Gura's anniversary
>>59052142
>>59052305Unironically what was Cover thinking kek?>We need a theme for our new gen>I know, let's ripoff Final Fantasy
>>59052240Gura is pic related behind the scene
>>59052305Is flare supposed to have bigger tits than Marine?
>>59049418>>59049342Who is this Cutie?
>>59051797>bot king gets gold
>>59052332
>>59052319Yeah, they're in a world of hurt soon lolThey will turn into Cover antis like fandeads and dragon fuckers before themIt will feel so amazing when they get their punishment.
>>59052332my oshi!!!! my love !!!! my darling!!! some day I will meet you Ichika chan
>>59052405Yes.
>>59052411
>>59050678idk man...I guess it's just weird seeing girls like Pekora and Miko - who are complete spergs irl - put out highly entertaining content almost every other day... and then you come back to EN and their biggest chuuba is perma afk and their second biggest just focusses on her music and puts no effort into improving the stream experience...Sora has been continuously streaming with very few breaks since 2017. That's like 6 fucking years. And she also does albums, recordings and a bunch of music related shit behind the scenes.There's a reason no one shitposts against daisenpai, despite her being a "homo collaber" as some tards here would put it.None of that shit matters when it comes to the #1 thing in this industry - love for your fans.Sora LOVES her Soratomo and that comes through in pretty much EVERYTHING she does.Koyori loves her Joshukun, and she streams for them almost every other day. She GRINDED her way into a position in the 2nd army.Pekora adores her nousagi, and hates it when people shit on them. She also cherishes all the gifts she got from her fans (before the gifting ban).Migo loves her 35p, even the 45p.Onigiriya get treated to the ultimate GFE in Okayu mengen.Korone abuses the fuck out of Koronesuki, but her fans know it's just her way of showing love.It's not like the EN girls HATE their fanbase or anything.. but the amount of time/effort that they put into their content absolutely PALES in comparison to the majority of JP members.Kaela jerry-rigged a PC/Laptop setup in Japan JUST so that she could stream to her fans during her 3D recording visit. Which EN girl would ever bother to go to such lengths?And obviously the fanbase understands that it's probably not practical to do such things, or waste so much money just to be able stream for a week or two.. I doubt that Pemaloe would've minded Kaela taking a couple of weeks break for this recording - they have plenty of VODs to watch already.But she didn't, because she wanted to spend time with her fans after recordings and talk about stuff or just chill and play games.The only EN girls that are MAYBE like that, are Fuwamoco. Old Gura used to be like this too.. but nowadays it's pretty obvious that she's gotten tired of her fanbase and fame (maybe Bijou too).The CGDCT group are "fine". Like, they put in what the job and the fans demand enough that they will continue having dedicated people support them.But none of them go "beyond" that y'know.. you never really get that feeling of "damn, this girl REALLY loves us" sort of feelings with the first 2 EN gens.You never get that feeling of GLORY that you get watching Marine and her friends replicate the entirety of the 80's Showa musical atmosphere with fucking VTUBERS.You never get that rush of seeing Pekora building up a story arc, or setting up a tournament.You never experience the sheer side splitting comedy of Migo or Korone laughing at the most absurd shit you can think of.You never experience the pure JOY of seeing your oshi try their fucking hardest for (YOU)!Maybe this is just pessimistic, maybe it's just a cultural thing of prioritizing yourself first and THEN others that sets things up like this.. but I just feel like it SHOULDN'T be you know? EN VTubers CAN and SHOULD be able to reach those levels.. I daresay they could even SURPASS some of them.. but I just haven't seen that same DRIVE from the girls that are supposed to be the DRIVERS of the branch..I can only hope that Advent will prove me wrong in time...
>>59052447
>>59051797>85,398: Hololive DEV_IS (Hololive)>74,028: Flare (Hololive)>37,864: Aqua (Hololive)>26,804: Pekora (Hololive)>26,704: Okayu (Hololive)>22,039: Fuwamoco (Hololive)hololive in peak top form as usual.
>>59052489sonny.png
This fag really thinks we can't see xim replying to ximself kek
>>59052489Mucho texto
>>59052396that has barely anything to do with Final Fantasy. I do agree that's simplistic and cliche the theme though.
>>59052498
look at all that sperging kek
>>59052489chumbuds exagerrate the lack of effort of the other girls all the time
>>59052381>SC copeHow many Vox nendos sold after the collab, sis?
new record?
>>59052538
>>59052489Okay, someone link that clip of Gura talking about how the twins interact and treat their fans and saying that she needs to do something similar before ghosting them for three weeks.
>>59052489i just got out of work and was reading manuals, i ain't reading that now man
>>59052575
>>59052545
>>59052489Okay now try not ignoring the other 70% of the JP roster.
>>59052489Bae Mori and Kiara put it tons of effort even when traveling and look what that gets them. It's a different audience. The EN audience is just twitch adjacent low attention span viewers that don't care about effort.
>>59052070It's true but EVEN if they managed to find some genuinely talented dude he would still fail and back at just farming fujo money after a couple months. Again they need to completely change their strategy and stop trying to make Stars just gender swapped Holos.Take the spic dude from Tempoop. Last I heard the dude is a pretty decent singer. Why not making him a metal mariacho? It's a unique brand and pretty stylish. Dias de los muertos stuff is pretty popular lately too. And weeb metal can absolutely work.Instead he's a random isekai adventurer who looks like a Genshit character.
NERISSA AISHITE AISHITE AISHITE THREE MILLION GETTO DAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>59051797Holo keks destroyed, La+ 3d debut SHATTERED
>>59052620
>>59052629Those three have their own set of issues not related to working hard.
>>59052586https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PfTFVI1tPk
>>59052637That was like two days ago or something
>>59052489People keep bringing up Kaela and I'm going to be honest with you, I don't get it. The workload is clearly extremely different.Take Fauna for example, still tried to stream in her Japan stay, but she had1. Choreography learning/Recording to do for Splash Party 2. Choreography learning/Recording to do for her showcase, in which she did FIVE songs, which is not normal for her3. Recording for Kawaiikute Gomen4. Possibly other shit too that will be trickling in slowly.I was a bit upset with her, I won't lie, but when you put it into perspective she had been doing a LOT in a short amount of time. So streaming less MADE SENSE. Until I see something similar for Kaela than I really don't see why people are even comparing.
How come long time fleshstreamers can start from near nothing and can incline to massive heights over years and keep growing while HoloEN members can be granted a huge audience from day 1 and only seem to decline? Where is the disconnect.
>>59051797Well if it was Bots then Holokek would have proof with the graph huh? So where is it?
https://youtu.be/On90ZNufszQ>Pekora hates ReglossWhy is she like this bros
>>59052666
https://youtu.be/dFHgWo_lTPc
>>59052707Why do you think, anon?
>>59052388
>>59052570nope tomoe had the same $135k, and many others are above her. He did get ~4x what scamlome had recently, though.
>>59052305A reminder that Gen 4 was initially meant to be a sequel to FANTASY. A Fantasy 2 which was scrapped for obvious reasons.
#’s is just posting JAV whores now?
>>59052068its not a collab she said she asked other holomems for their wips and she was gonna work on them or finish them. she didnt say who she had lined up though
>>59052689>Where is the disconnectYou cherry-picking.
>>59052707>Homo Shills trying to leech>she dodges themsound based to me
>>59051945Twitch has been reclining since 2021 though still way above pre-coofI can't find a non-paywalled source for YT
>>59052768Ina will never fucking finish that Fauna drawing and I'm still mad at the Takos for not choosing it for her birthday and selfishly opting for emotes they would've gotten anyway
>>59052106Big spread of gold medals amongst different Holo girls. Fun to see it not just be Pekora.
>random Gura/Myth seetheEven on THE day they finally are able to win something RUMAOI guess the offcollab flopping miserably finally broke their minds
>>59052709
>>59052764That JAV whores can torture my nipples anytime
>>59052806>random
>>59052793and here's the EN specific graph
>>59052689Not having an Omegay to take all the credit is a good start.
>>59052807
>>59052806Permanent feature.
>>59052689For hololive there is the expectation of consistency, endurance and females only.It gets forgotten about but Gura for example had a large audience of literal children.To keep children as an audience, she would have had to pump out content without ever taking months of break. 3 weeks every 6months or so would probably be the max, while maintaining 3-5 streams a week.
>>59052742Raden copied her laugh, she's going to sue her
>>59052798hehe seethe.
>>59052707No wonder she and Gura get along KEK!!!
>>59051601Also, Ayame and Shion communicate regularly with their fans on social media.
>>59052851
>>59051540https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1932145265?t=2h48m57s> Miko had a scary dream> HoloEN also appeared> It was when she was abroad with Suichan> In the foreign hotel lobby, she dreamed about ghosts and shit> When she opened her eyes the suitcase was open, and when she blinked the suitcase was moving (in the dream)> It scared her> HoloEN also appeared.. who was it? someone was singing..> Miko doesn't remember all the songs from the EN members, so it's basically just the music or feelings she got from the dream> yeah Fauna appeared, she was singing, and I wondered what if that was an EN orisong> So I quickly woke up, went to their channels, and listened to all of their songs> But it was a completely different song
>>59052883
>>59052676Those comments are just wonderful little time capsules of a brighter future the chumbuds imagined.
>>59052798For people that stream so close to each other, the amount of interaction between Fauna and Ina is risibly low.The only time they really talked about each other was about that offcollab, but since then one might as well not exist for the other, really weird
>>59052886
>>59052689Vshojo had 3 11k ccv streamers once upon a time too…….Also my fleshstreamer oshi hasn’t inclined and stagnated for the past 3 yrs
>>59052874Fuck you nigga it was Ina's better pieces because it didn't actually have her sameface issue
>>59052689>headcanonStreaming has been reclining, provide proof of your claim or pound sand.>>59052793>>59052841
>>59051870>streaming is a niche mediumThe solution to this issue is simple:Streaming needs to organize itself like network television does if you want to provide live entertainment content. The problem with that is that the people currently engaging in the format are people who never held a job worth a damn or don't want to lead a life on a fixed schedule, so you will never get the actual talent that can make something like that work.The other solution is to diversify into pre-recorded content, which a of people are already doing, but the quality of content varies to wildly so that the net effect is barely positive. You would need to have an organization with really deep pockets that would be willing to turn all of these rank amateurs into actual superstars by producing content on the quality of network television at the bare minimum. Let's not even think of the prospect of an anime because none of these girls can act for shit outside of the eternal LARP.>male vtubers can workYes, but the only people willing to give up being visible in the flesh for fame are maladjusted individuals sex pests, mentally ill freaks and... women. So long as men can be infinitely more successful being an entertainer in the flesh (and they don't even need to do that), male vtubers will continue to be the butt of the jokes coming out of the mouths of anyone with common sense.
>>59052707Reminder they share the same studio with the homos so they may interact on a daily basis just like any other coworker.
>>59052689>Anon is unaware of how many flesh streamers have tanked.
>>59052763>scrapped for obvious reasonswhat reasons?
>>59052763>Obvious reasonsWhich are?
>>59052944Ina is probably just as bad as Gura for not interacting with people on Discord. Probably the only reason she never collabed with the homos
>>59052689Literally all streamers started declining after the coof went away.
>>59053041source
>>59052752>a yacht so big there's another yacht on itis jork. that's a small boat, right
>>59052689ENshart problem. JP just keeps getting stronger ;)
>>59052689Don’t look at XQC ….. he used to average 80-100k during the coof…..
>>59052907spooky
>>59052489Agreed, this is majority of the reason why I gave up on watching En except for a select few.The management and the girls don't seem to give a fuck so why should the fans?
>>59053053There are charts in this thread nigger, scroll up
>>59050701What's up with the Enterprise picture?
>>59052944Reminder their first 1 on 1 collab was forced at a convention. The only other times they interact is in a group setting.
>>59053073I really wonder why.
>>59053112>none
>>59053053Do your own homework? Twitchtracker.com
>>59052689You retard, multiple fleshies have reclined from the COVID heydays. It's just that, due to there being more competition, the cycle of fleshies rides and falls faster than vtubers in Japan, where Hololive and Nijisanji have held on to the top spots for the most part.
Did Fauna mention her streaming status for today?
>>59053140>>59052793>>59052841Kill yourself
>>59052907>Fauna singingJESUS CHRIST HOW HORRIFYING
>>59053166Nijiseethe.
Is that the woman from the nipple pinching porn?
Mumei is not sexy. Owls are not sexy.
>>59053156SC reading with possible hitman after she is done
>>59053166meant for >>59053136
>>59053156Superchats. If she finishes them fast enough, more Hitman.
>>59052944Fauna is jealous of how well Ina gets along with kronii, they hate each other unronically
>>59052489Because the ones who put in effort get shit views while the lazy ass ones are get easy stuff. The EN fanbase doesn't reward hard workers like the JP fanbase does.
>>59053166>>59053140>Shows viewers spreading and not decliningExplains the crop
Let’s hope todays is an extra shitty day so people get it out of their system, tomorrow with FWMC karaoke and Muneis showcase is going to be amazing
>>59052689Man, I really miss Myth's prime. There was just so much happiness in the EN sphere around 2020 and 2021, and even though I still appreciate the girls, it just feels like 2022 put an end to that period.I'd give a lot to be able to see that energy back.
>>59053197>Owls are not sexyexplain this
>>59053275Damn qirl those legs go all the way up
>>59053007The brand name was DOA and had no long lasting impact so Cover put more emphasis on the gens being numbered. Gen3Gen4Gen5
Next HoloEN x NijiEN collab soon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VGprSwXhcc&t=4752
>>59052676What the fuck was she thinking lmao
>>59053308This shit is so old IT'S ALREADY DIRT.
>>59052489People generally don't want to venture out of their comfort zone, those who disagree with your point never watched the JPs that actually exude dedication towards their fans.>Greets their fans and updates how their day goes every single day>Streams whenever possible just to talk with their fans>Put out projects/songs which more often than not are monetary losses simply because they think it makes the fans happy>Spend big portions of their everyday lives just thinking up ideas for streams>Even when they're frustrated due to unexpected roadblocks in their plans, they soldier on and put on a smile because their motto is to show their best side to the fans on stream.
We're elevating
>>59053308AIEEEE Mumeisanji !!
Nijisanji updated numbers after nippleman 3DTop 10 Peak viewers1. Hyakumantenbara Salome 177,8412. Lauren iroas 09/22 169, 402 3. Leos Vincent 159,3194. Fuwa Minato 143,270 5. Kagami Hayato 132,3816. Debidebi Debiru 119,0927. Ibrahim 117,4758. Oliver Evans 116,6489. Watarai Hibari 111, 013 10. Lain Paterson 104,790Top 10 Superchat1. Fushimi Gaku ¥23,324,0002. Lauren iroas ¥19,840,0003. Leos Vincent ¥18,460,0004. Fuwa Minato ¥16,358,2725. Haru Kaida ¥15,615,0006. Ibrahim ¥14,074,2227. Nagao Kei ¥11,607,0008. Shirayuki Tomoe ¥11,395,1149. Kagami Hayato ¥10,269,62410. Watarai Hibari ¥9,002,000
>>59053308Didn't she already have that one? The one with Axel and altroon
>>59053359That's literally Kiara tho.
>>59053300Sounds like a repeat of Dev7oss.
>>59053253>Moom showcase loses to kronii>people shitpost>beats kornii>people shitpostthere's no "get it out of their system" as you put
>>59053359Again this is mostly a Gura problem and chumbuds should stop trying to spread the blame to the rest of EN
>>59053318Who knows? She's been dead silent on all social media and hasn't tweeted at all since her anniversary.
>>59052676This is Gura's issue, honestly. She always talks big and then never follows through with it. I don't even think I can count on one hand anymore how many times she said she needs to communicate more. And then there's shit like this.
>/vt/ Unicorn friendly girlsGuraFaunaMumeiInaKiaraIRySBibooFWMCNerissaShiori>Japanese hardcore Unicorn friendly girlsKroniiInaBaeFWMC
What's their theme?
>>59053387This stream was last week
>>59053440Anyone who replies to this post after me is a sister
>>59053359So still going to ignore most of the other JPs?
>>59053444no theme
>>59053408>chumbuds
>>59053440>NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES
>>59053440I love Hololive. All JP member discussions are posted by me and my friends
>>59053440The japanese always had it right desu
>>59053426Nothing will change though because in Yagoos eyes shes doing great. That award just won her 1 more year of not streaming
>>59053444Circus performers
>>59050723Aqua can do itshe just needs consistency and remember to take breakswe dont want a reeptition of 2021 solomas when she collapsed
>>59053387She said Hololive
>>59053443And just a few days ago she collabed with those two fags
>>59053426She fooled me twice, so shame on me. I made sure there won't be a third time.
>>59051797Holomonkey defeated
>>59053444Wtf was nene supposed to be, an alien?
>>59052944They honestly just have nothing in common. Ina basically only watches the JP girls, and both of them only interact with their friends in the company. They don't even dislike each other, it's just that they're just not close personally.
>>59053440So basicallyWhores on the top row Pure girls in the bottom row
>>59053537>lion>chinese girl>the clownmakes sense>succubus >elf???
>>59053571>Holomonkey
>>59053469List them then, I don't see any jps going completely silent and ghosting their fans for months with barely anything to show for it
>>59053573chinese kung fu fighter
>>59052953
>>59053573She's chinese?
>>59053440>Ina
>>59053626>>59053634no...
Ya know, thinking about it, the Fauna seethe about her streaming habits during the JP arc/showcase shit is so fucking forced when you realize that Ina, Ame and Gura were fucking worse during theirs.
Small corpos dying.
>>59053629
>holo wins goldBased, holo domination, nijibad>niji wins goldBots, bots, cope nigger bots, bot belo jogo botsThe state of /#/, literally zero class, why cant you fags accept your loss ? Dont be a sore lose bronies
It's never been more over than it is now...
>>59053619Yes
>>59053600>Kronii>Ina>Bae>pureAnon.... I
>>59049441
996K5.4M
>>59053670I mean, Kronii was pretty bad too, bitch just played games in her hotel room
>>59053688>bronieswrong board >>>/mlp/
>>59053571I kinda want a monkey vtuber in holo
>>59052682Bro like I said, the audience understands all of this, and is VERY supportive with them as well.. justifiable breaks are perfectly fine, even acceptable to a certain level.. it's just that EVERYONE makes complete use of it - even the girls that may not be having such big workloads.It's hard to describe what exactly I'm talking about, but it mainly comes down to FEELING like you're important to them y'know? That you oshiing them, buying their stuff and cheering you on actually makes them HAPPY.. like, not in just the "thank you guys for funding me!" type of thing, but something that shows in the ACTIONS.Like, you know that feeling when you were watching 2020 Amelia? When passion, creativity and new ideas were just flowing out of her little by little, and while a lot of them were thrown away the amount was just so much that you believed that at least 1-2 of them would stick around..?She was innovating so much and breaking the very boundaries of VTubing with a lot of stuff that she introduced into the industry... it's why despite all her debuff tendencies I've never directly shit on her for not TRYING, because she did. And I get it, people have limits, and she reached hers.Nothing but respect to her for at least attempting to push stuff.But then, no one else took her place in EN. No one else is pushing stuff, trying out new content, taking calculated risks in trying to do new stuff in the VTubing realm... Like this >>59052628 guy says, it's not 70 but more like 40% of JP are definitely like that - just comfortably drifting and just doing the bare minimum, but the fact is that a lot of JPs have that drive to push things further - or at least they have created enough regular programs that simply doing just those regularly enough will continue bringing fun content - whether it's sportsfes, summerfes, mariokart tournament, polden, sister marine, oozora police etc. etc.Early Myth HAD that feeling of passion, freshness and drive - despite a lot of the scuff, the girls were still pushing forward.During 2022, we could at least blame Omega and the homo agenda for a lot of their content being sidelined, but even back then there was a minority opinion from some anons that EN3 alone won't save the branch.We're sort of living through that right now.
>>59051259no she is the senpaiit's regloss who should come to her and introduce themselves first
>>59053708Yes, all of them
>>59053635Then Mumei also isn't friendly for unicorns, right?
>>59053670Saplings were mostly calm, especially considering in regular circumstances we are always saying we miss fauna when she isn't streaming
>>59052944>>59053030>>59053575>>59053226No Fauna and Ina are both shy. Ina's collabs with Kronii, Bae and Mumei were initiated by them and not ina.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBa_BfF79xY
>>59053573A bug
>>59053673>stopped spamming shorts>actually streams games instead of spamming clickbait content>viewership collapsesA day in the life of a shorts shitter
>>59053053https://www.svg.com/1127040/twitch-just-had-its-biggest-viewership-decline-in-years/
Stop writing tomes.
>walls of text no one cares about>random EN seethe>doxbait>schizos samefaggingYuro hours everyone
>both makes a loli song>the drawfag mogs the singingfagWhat Suisei did wrong? Why her own loli song didn't blow up like Ui's?https://youtu.be/Ci_zad39Uhwhttps://youtu.be/KshZpLMCG9o
Owari da
>>59053741What kind of monkey
>>59053805That's pretty much what I said. They're not especially close and they're both shy, so the lack of a collab doesn't seem abnormal.
>>59053242Can you just give me an example of EN chuubas that put in effort according to you?And some examples of the type of content they put their effort into over the years? Stream VODs or songs or whatever it is.
>>59053673What happened?
>>59053825That's one website, the topic is streaming.Streaming is growing. Show otherwise.
>>59053493I caret. JPcorn
>>59053880I'M STILL MAD INA SAID SHE'D ASK FAUNA ABOUT A SWITCH SPORTS COLLAB AND THEN SHE FUCKING DISAPPEARED OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH FOR LIKE 4 MONTHS AND NOTHING EVER CAME OF IT
>>59053374still insane to me how gaku got this much
>>59053892They went back to Phase Connect. They seem to be doing okay.
>>59053859She forgot to do an epic Fortnite dance for the TikTok kiddies.
>>59053688They still win cripple tally lol
>>59053388really dude..?
>>59053859it WAS blowing up. If she had released an MV with a catchy dancing, it would've had more views. That song had a ton of views for by the time it was released.
>>59053957Shiori...
>>59053898https://hypebeast.com/2022/8/twitch-facebook-gaming-youtube-gaming-hours-watched-decline-q2-2022
>Got to this pointNow what?
>>59053935Its pippa, 3k on good days, 2 that hover around 700 (on twitch, 230max when on youtube), and the rest low 3 views and 2 views.
Is there going to be another JP collab on next Fuwamoco schedule? Phasmophobia?This made it seem like one is coming anyway:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69s2X77w4SY
*FINAL EN COPE TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*>9/22 DAILY TALLY (1.000 - 4.999)4.815: Bae (Hololive)4.163: Kronii (Hololive)3.471: Shiori (Hololive)2.900: Calli (Hololive)2.756: Enna (Nijisanji)1.858: Millie (Nijisanji)1.820: Kiara (Hololive)1.664: Meloco (Nijisanji)1.546: Fulgur (Nijisanji)1.448: Elira (Nijisanji)1.357: Reimu (Nijisanji)1.269: Shinri (Holostars)1.247: Rosemi (Nijisanji)1.243: Altare (Holostars)1.228: Wilson (Nijisanji)1.189: Bettel (Holostars)1.135: Ren (Nijisanji)1.001: Hex (Nijisanji)>EN COPE GOLDS FOR SEPTEMBER 20231) Calli (Hololive) - 4.257 - Armored Core VI2) Kiara (Hololive) - 3.798 - Baldur's Gate 33) Vezalius (Nijisanji) - 3.343 - Karaoke Stream4) Mumei (Hololive) - 4.193 - Just Chatting5) Calli (Hololive) - 4.394 - Hololive Fan Games6) Luca (Nijisanji) - 4.890 - Starri7) Bettel (Holostars) - 4.680 - TempusWeek #38) Shiori (Hololive) - 4.961 - Everhood9) Hakka (Holostars) - 4.171 - TempusWeek #510) Ame (Hololive) - 4.661 - CS:GO11) Vox (Nijisanji) - 4.439 - Just Chatting12) Kiara (Hololive) - 3.138 - Hotline Miami 213) Bettel (Holostars) - 1.955 - Week in Review14) Kiara (Hololive) - 3.685 - Nintendo Direct Watchalong15) Shiori (Hololive) - 4.553 - Everhood16) Nerissa (Hololive) - 4.706 - Mario Kart 817) Nerissa (Hololive) - 4.462 - Resident Evil Village18) Bijou (Hololive) - 4.249 - Baldur's Gate 319) Nerissa (Hololive) - 4.592 - Gartic Phone20) Reimu (Nijisanji) - 3.340 - I'm on Observation Duty 621) Ren (Nijisanji) - 3.550 - Just Chatting w/ Kyo22) Bae (Hololive) - 4.815 - Persona 5 Royal
>>59053892Because they never rose in the first place. Having one chuuba in your company that gets good numbers while the rest are shitters is not what you would call successful
>>59053816Didnt she tell people not to sexualize her and a bunch of other hall monitor rules? Shorts audience didnt like that I guess.
>>59053469So you can't list them?
>>59053957Shiori is legit the Sana of Advent, high SCs but lower in pretty much every metric. Only getting beat out by Nerissa who's the Kiara of Advent except no SCs
>>59053670Man that's the entire point of the post...That this sort of "dullness" towards the fans - where have next to no passion and just do the bare minimum needed - seems to just be a branch wide issue for EN.
>>59054012>still limitedyour sources need to stop being from gaming journalism sites kek, actual news sources instead
>>59053892hololive is going to die at any moment
>>59054074Just two more weeks. This time for real...
>>59054040It should be pretty telling that the JP mem examples samurais always bring up are basically the same like 10 mems.
>>59054035>Didnt she tell people not to sexualize her and a bunch of other hall monitor rules? Shorts audience didnt like that I guess.Why the fuck do retards keep acting like anyone outside of /vt/ cared about that?
>>59054069https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattgardner1/2023/07/31/game-streaming-viewership-drops-in-q2-but-kick-and-esports-buck-trend/?sh=11781c1d7eb7
>>59053359sounds stupid, do they think cover is a charity?
>>59053859maybe Sui-chan is just not cute enough
>>59054037lets fucking GO!
>>59053688This you?
>>59054122Same retards who think anyone but schizos cared about Fauna's "talk".
>ENSEETHE ENSEETHE ENSEETHE REEEEEEE STOP POINTING OUT THINGS I DON'T LIKE
>>59054069Even Twitch magic numbers are reclining
>>59054122>why did her viewership collapse exactly after this specific date for absolutely no reason at all?
>>59054138>It's the exact same sitesAnon everyone knows twitch declined and FB doesn't matter. There are lots of streaming sites that popped up after 2020. Youtube Gaming is a small portion of Youtube streaming.Twitchfags are annoying
>>59054207Wasn't she fucking spamming pikmin
>>59054178Fauna did literally nothing wrong, dont drag her into your small corpo drama
>>59053859Why are you comparing an MV to a topic song? The topic ver for loli ui isn't even at 1m after 1+ year.
Why are pebbles and jailbirds poor
>>59054122Finally the jew shill reveals himself. I guess you can dish it out against Holos, but just cannot take it.
>>59054115So you STILL can't list them? An overwhelming 70% and you can't name even 5 JPs who are on the same level of not giving a shit as the en members? Embarrassing
>>59054231How far are you gonna run with those goalposts m80
>>59052229I assume this is the girl from the incident?
>>59054207It was on a constant decline way before her saying that retard, also she was spamming Pikmin 4 of course her channel was going to die.
>>59054294Well Nerissa has read SCs like 4 times in two months so her streams don't have an SC culture. I don't know about Bijou.
>>59054336Not seeing any numbers though just the same old twitch making bad decisions crap
I just wanted to say I am so glad I haven't seen any bvtm post here in a very long time. I heard they got banned and immediately made another account but haven't seen it anywhere so hopefully that means they have shit traction.
>>59054164RAT ON TALLY
>>59054294Pebbles? SEA, Jailbairds? Only about 300 actually exist
>>59052489>Korone abuses the fuck out of Koronesuki, but her fans know it's just her way of showing love.She takes things a bit extreme sometimes by I still love her
>>59054369Kiara's SC readings are usually full of juicy stuff, surprised nerissa didnt actually go down that path too
>>59053681
>>59054440Nerissa barely streams longer than 2 hours.
>>59054385shouldn't have told her to go to sleep
>>59054440>juicy stuffyes because we all want to know how she got a manicure wile on her third vacation this month
>>59054231There are no other popular streaming sites in the English speaking world aside from kind of Kick. If you think otherwise name 5 streaming sites that popped up since 2020. What point are you even trying to make here? Who gives a fuck about how well 24/7 lofi streams of Pastors giving sunday service do on youtube's non gaming streams? Vtubers ARE gaming streamers so they fall into the gaming umbrella anywayNo one else writes on any other type of youtube streaming cause no one gives a fuck how christian pastors are doing. Game streaming is the only one relevant here
>>59054440Nerissa is already well off and it sounds like she has other work outside of holo. She even mentions that she uses Kiara streams as bgm while she is working during the day but don't know what this other 'work' is.
>>59054530Probably music reps.
>>59054294nerissafags are KFP so they give all their money to Kiara
>>59054522A lot of people have prised my nails since I started watching Kiara
>>59053688>still seethingjust take the L sister
>>59054530She lives with her parents I doubt she's well off
>>59054522Sounds like we need another collab
>>59054553LONDON
>>59054525>Vtubers ARE gaming streamers so they fall into the gaming umbrella anywayInconsistently, stop replying to me twitchnigger you keep coping while its obvious streaming is a growing market
>>59054440She’s only taken the worse part of her senpais.>Nijicollab begger>Non stop yuri baiting>No streaming skills>terrible thumbnail game>bad game choices>Singer streamer, cannot karaoke>Short streamsThe only thing going for her is she hasn’t homocollabed
>>59054583retard
>>59054578More like Stonewall...
>>59054341
>>59054341Kill yourself you faggot
>>59054577So this is the source of that obnoxious "Fauna eating chips" image used by that avatarfag spawned from huh.
>>59053741We've got ID branch
>>59054633Based Magster
>>59054583nta but you have not provided a single source, screenshot, or datapoint throughout the entire chain. All you're doing is plugging your ears and screeching like a child. Idk what you're trying to accomplish here.
>>59054613Gura should have streamed more, it's that simple
>>59054673
>>59054583Give me one singualr article showing streaming is a growing market. Go on. I'll even take a gaming articleYou can't do it. You're a pathetic faggot who can't do anything but publicly make himself look like a retard on 4chan. You have not argument, no point, and no purpose. Make it easy and kill yourself now before you can't cope any more.
>>59052539Anon the logo
>>59054676Seethe Nijikek
>>59053661
>>59054511
Guess /uuu2/ hours are starting early today
>>59054633what's happening here?
>>59053859as reference, Specter's best song have 1.7 million views after all this time https://youtu.be/lBM2j13sdOs?si=jhSLNQQxjd8nyedg
>>59054773Fuck off.
>>59049595What the fuck is Bluey?
>>59053741>monkey vtuber
>>59054823Why are you so angry sister?
>>59053888They won't, en fans will just call you a sister, SEA/yuro nijicuck or other buzzwords to immediately deflect any criticisms from En.They get what they deserve I guess
>>59054707>streaming is a growing markethttps://www.vantagemarketresearch.com/industry-report/live-streaming-market-1412Compound annual growth rate of 23.40%
>>59054823>>59054852
>>59054699Build your own community from the ground, leech.
>>59051797Now I want /#/ to imagine Luxiem 3D debut
>>59054900>please think about male nijishitters>>>/vt/nijien
>>59054848This isn't your place to talk about your talentless 6k whore.
>>59054933Isnt Enna sub 3k nowadays though?
>>59054878This is a forecast, not current numbers
>>59054967Where did I ever say the nijishitters have talent and should be discussed here? Because I didn't.
>>59055007Nice try nijinigger
>>59054981Because it inclined every year previous, the performance of 2022 being better than 2021 or 2020 etc
>>59054879Why did you reply to me?
>>59054781It's actually michizure topic at 4m (actually more than the mv ver last i checked) or so, followed by aseta hanamidori at 2.1m.Here's Ui's yt topic numbers, you might need a jp vpn for it them https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mCsOfJXayvpD_ybwOmCMV04vzp5P1luE8 and https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZFgnRanCh4I
>>59054846What da hell is this?
>>59054369Does she not do SC readings during the end of streams?I think only FWMC out of advent have dedicated SC reading streams, but they're strong enough (still can have very buff streams) to tank the algo hit for now
>>59052682Kaela will be doing this in her 3D, she's learning choreography and practicing for it every day and yes, it will be cringe kino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjgEIPA7hzY
>>59053618Lamy is sorta bear themed, and bears are common at circuses. >Succubus The local prostitute that shows up with the circus.
>>59055109She will read pinks and reds if she sees them when they come in, she doesn't always read them. She doesn't go back and read SCs at the end.
>>59055053Again, it doesn't say that. The 23.40% is the projected growth through the 2023-2030 period. The synopsis makes no mention of the historical data and the graph included starts this year. Feel free to link or screenshot the relevant part of the data that supports your claim.
Sigure Ui is at 996kOnly 4k to gowill she bother to stream to watch it tick over?
>>59055106Pre-Advent EN3 is nigh unlimited baitworks.
>>59055053Your source doesn't even show the historical data nor how they've arrived at their forecast numbers, you should probably find another article to support your point
>>59055106It's fucking Overlord characters in their gacha outfits with a fucking Hololive logo pasted on, don't worry about it.
>>59055172Valentine Day kiss song?
>>59053859Comet chan is my oshi kys
>unironic Idolcorp shills patrolling hereWhy? Go back your whores arent relevant
>>59053618>Singer succubus>Snow elf who know magicYes
>>59055106Newfagchama...
Will Hajime's history of black youth do well numbers-wise?
>>59053859Ui's song didn't blow up either and it had a year to do itit only blew up once gagame blessed it
>>59055106hololive's version of Super Saiyan 5 and Xbox 720
>>59055271Only because it wants you to purchase the full report.I don't care enough, I know for a fact that streaming is inclining.Getting others to try and convince me otherwise was just for my amusement.
>>59051797Uhm, I thought nobody liked male vtubers? Why did they take gold today?
How will Ui's franky absolutely insane level of success with her latest MV affect the industry going forwards?There's no way it's not going to influence some of the decisions other vtubers make right?
>>59053374And to think only 2% goes into their pockets... sad!
>>59054777Fauna went >acktually to the wrong person
>>59054341hello lamy
https://youtu.be/28YMsv7FNe8https://youtu.be/28YMsv7FNe8https://youtu.be/28YMsv7FNe8
>>59055318They have always been here thinking they somehow are relevant. Even Phase Cucknnect is more relevant than that moneypit they call a corpo.Never forget their blatant shilling for their 2view hyper ESL Gura killer flop
>>59055434She just did what Marine did
>>59055434I hope Suisei takes the hints after Marine and Ui and starts releasing catchy songs with catchy dance moves.
>>59054037
>>59055434The cunnification of vtubers will accelerate
>>59053444BIG FIVE!!!!! And Polka
>>59055466She was so fucking ugly
>>59055434It will usher in a new wave that will put King covers to shame
>>59055106Hololive Philippines
>>59051870>I keep hearing fags talk about Hololive needing to appeal to normalfagsUhI think you got it wrong. When people talk about Hololive expansion, they typically mean expansion within the niche. A large slice of the anime otaku pie is untouched by Holo.
>>59055485why hasn't she been doing it already, anywaywhy doesn't suisei know how much girls love dancing
>>59055534Guranata look like twins
>>59055434>90% of the vtuber industry will drink the loli potion and make a lust-inducing danceWE ARE LIVING IN THE RIGHT TIMELINE
Meanwhile Japanese fan
>>590554584.5k
>>59055434the nigga that animated her MV will get a lot of work, that's for sure
>>59055574She wants to be an Adele not a Lady Gaga
>>59055574Suisei herself doesn't like dancing. Have you EVER seen her dancing in solo performances? I never. She only does that when in group
>>59055574she tried with soiree, but the dance moves are too long for the zoomer brains on TikTok
>>59055649adele would dance if she wasn't fatsuisei isn't fat right...
>>59055574>>why doesn't suisei know how much girls love dancing>ocelot_suisei.webm
>>59055562No trust me I've seen a lot of numberot retards genuinely say that Hololive has reached the peak and now needs to move in the normalfag market.Never underestimate the sheer retardation of /numbers/.
What is this, are we posting Nene?
>>59055434How do? cover literally was stopping Gura from releasing her cunny daki, you think they are gonna let them do cunny songs now?
>>59055655>t. never watched the 5th anniversary 3D live.
>>59055670>he doesn't know
>>59055689I feel like the actual gaming market is overlooked.PS5 for example. No one ever talks about how much of a disappointment it is, bad enough a lot of the streaming audience won't own one any time soon
>>59055702suisei has a cunnysong, all she has to do is add an MV with a dance in itI think some of the others have cunnysongs as well right
>>59055649>she wants to be fatNaruhodo
>>59055700Azuchi...
I just noticed lack papa watched Lauren 3D instead of Furea's concert...
>>59055644his work takes a long time though right? I feel like he always had plenty of offers, now he can just ask for more money. Hell his output might even go down because he'll be eating well
>>59055619My coom goes here
Would en4 actually save EN? Or is It just a myth problem?
>>59051870
>>59055822No, release Tempus3 and have them collab with Advent instead
>>59055822No. Current EN needs to save EN.
>>59055861Kys don't reply to me
>>59055822More active members means a more active audience pool.
>>59055858Never forget the day Murdoc was robbed from his rightful cripple gold.
>>59055649Madonna had a greater lasting impact and legacy than Bette Midler. I’d rather be Lady Gaga if I’m looking at my legacy. Adele’s entire schtick is fat white lady who sings like a black woman.
>>59055703ina-tier dancing
>>59055963>Madonnaliteral who?
>>59055610Ah wait I forgot, she was going to play more Hitman if she had time after reading SCs.6k then
>>59052489This is like half stuff that's absolutely 100% true, and half hardcore projecting. Kiara alone fits most of these qualities: goes out of her way to stream and collab while on trips (and we got tons of kino out of it), tells her fans she loves them constantly (there's a fucking collage of it), puts out tons of songs which have no guarantee of success and streams constantly. I will concede that EN is fucked for tourneys though: there's not enough competitive players, no one except Mori seems interested in running them (and she's bad at it), and up until Advent there weren't enough people period. Maybe someone can pull off a simple MK or Smash EN tourney one day. Did you watch the Pokemon Unite stuff? I thought that was pretty good.
>>59055981you are just confirming it.
>>59055997I do want a super special rape
>>59055702>coverHoloEN's SJW management, you mean. Because "muh appealing to pedos"
>>59055109>I think only FWMC out of advent have dedicated SC reading streams, but they're strong enough (still can have very buff streams) to tank the algo hit for nowIs only because they were piled up and they want to read them all. Ever since they clear the backlog, they always read supaas after finishing the content of the day.
>>59055702>>59056065the daki came out despite every nigger here concernfagging over it to despite not even seeing the design to try and get Cover to back off of it and and now you are trying to make it seem like EN management was reluctant to release it.
Kaela still streaming ? She hates Nijien that much ?
>>59056196Megabytes for chads? based>>59056207Kilobytes for ants? cringe
Grim night ahead for EN
>>59056285Cool gaslighting, sis. Everyone knows how it went down.
>>59056298??? Wtfdymbt
>>59056344Grim numberwise, good content wise
>>59056360
>>59056344>rare Ame streamCover interns... >>59050654
>>59056033Tourneys were doubly fucked if you consider time zones and ping. Then you have the organizers of each group living in other time zones. Now there are anywhere from 10-12 in NA (dependent on Mori and if Fuwamoco can multiplayer), so some cautious optimism for larger collabs
>>59055655>>59055574
>>59056344right to left, top to bottom6k3.5k4k4k4.5k
>>59056492
Apparently Pekora been at the studio and manager(s) REALLY want her to meet ReGLOSS for some reason and it weirded her out. They even wanted to record the first meeting
Where is mumei
>>59055485That'd be good for her numbers but I don't think that style fits her at all
>>59056033I do think Kiara is an exception (and Bae too) but that anon is right generally speaking i would say. Like that conversation between Bijou and Mumei about advent talking to chat after collabs is a good example. The other gens don't do that, Mumei never thought to do it. Bijou only does it because other advent members (aka FWMC and Shiori) do it.Mori always talks about wanting to do tournaments but they always fall apart behind the scenes it feels. I'd like it if they did more stuff like pokemon unite or even just small EN only events
>>59056593in bed with Fauna
>>59056593Mumei already said days ago she wouldn't be active leading up to her showcase
>>59056720Azki was so ugly
>>59056495retard
>>59055485>>59056622Rigidly copying each other is not the way
>>59055574https://youtu.be/Mm87JgTx2AoJust like predicting a hit song is impossible, predicting what dance people will want to imitate is also impossible but she's put plenty of dances into her MVs.
>>59050997It's always funny to me how some people in this thread have no idea how cover makes the most money
>>59056761Hell nah
>>59056761What's the difference?
Oh what could have been...
>>59056832She has vents now>>59056822The spiral concept is cool, but her hair and the facepaint is bad
>>59055963>Bette MidlerThe more fitting comparison would be Celine Dion or Whitney Houston if you're gonna be comparing giga successful female singers who do and do not dance.
>>59056914Autism-chama...
>>59056914This isn't a picture of the AR concert though?
>>59055434More people will release catchy dances in their MVs. If Ina uses this technique with her top tier dancing, she will hit millions of views in a couple days, trust the plan.
Oh, is the raid over?