/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Good. Rest in Piss, clipper leeches.

retard

>>58943625
Based cover

AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
GET FUCKED CLIPSHARTS

>making money out of watching streams
You got that reversed.

>his oshi is gura
good riddance

>>58943625
They don't touch clippers generally, so this retard has likely done something egregious.

>>58943625
>No. Watched VODs

>>58943625
Not gonna watch the clip but I assume it's that thing from Youtube where they don't see their content as too different from the streams they're clipping?
If so, what does Cover have to do with it, OP?

>>58944010
Seems like he got demonetized for "reused content".
As much as I hate clippers, I've seen indies get demonetized for that without any explanation of what content they've been reusing so this clipper didn't do anything wrong.
OP is a faggot.

This is youtube, not cover, you troglodyte

>>58944201
nijisisters making baits because they have 0 streams to watch

>>58943625
why should clippers have their videos monetized to begin with?
if you're not doing it because you like the chuuba, then just don't do it. especially if you're not even adding subtitles, people can go to the VOD and watch that.

>>58943625
This has nothing to do with Cover. YouTube has started cracking down on clippers, because they don't want people making most of their money from other people's content. Recently a Nyanners and LordAethelstan clip channel called Froyo Dealer got demonetized despite the fact that both Nyanners and LordAethelstan liked his clips. They got around this by creating a channel they both owned called Castle Express, and gave him full access to post clips while he received the money from those clips.

>>58943625
You clip because you're a fan and want others to see your oshi's content, not for fucking Adsense pennies to pay for your fucking mudhut.
KYS

>>58943625
>Youtube hits channel
>Retarded Nijifag tries to pin it on Cover
Rope yourself.

>>58944605
How will this impact react streamers?
Or are they all on twitch anyway?

>>58944605
>because they don't want people making most of their money from other people's content.
That has nothing to do with why Youtube is doing this, they don't want to show ads for redundant content as they see it as a way to "crack the code" i.e. channels that upload the same video 5 times in hope they are caught by the algorithm to different audiences.
So even if the clipping channel is yours, why would Youtube pay for monetization in it when they already paid you in the original stream?

>>58943625
Well, maybe they fucked up by uploading a business risk clip and COVER pulled the plug. There are other clippers who even work for COVER AFAIK so it's totally possible that this clipper particularly didnt follow either YT or COVER guidelines. Also, I ain't looking for that video, buy an ad

Clippers shouldn't be monetized to begin with? Monetization should only be given to someones own creative work, clippers are not adding to the content so shouldn't be payed for it. You can argue if there are subtitles or particularly creative editing but at the end of the day it is still the vtubers content not the clippers, being a clippers is meant to be about showing off the funniest bits of your oshi's content not earning money.

>>58943625
Good I hope all SEA clippers lose monetization.

Clippers and react tubers deserve no human rights.

>>58944697
Since those mouthbreathers "react" on the videos they get away with it I assume. Most clippers don't even edit

>>58943625
>Clippers are there to help those who are too busy to watch the entire vod but don't want to miss out on good moments in the streams.
That's what timestamps are for. Plus you get to see the actual moment without annoying sound effects or images thrown in your face.

>>58943625
nah, cover doesn't need 3rd world clippers with grammar mistakes like (you). btfo

>>58943625
>Clippers are there to help those who are too busy to watch the entire vod but don't want to miss out on good moments in the streams
Timestamps in the comments exist

>>58944781
>So even if the clipping channel is yours, why would Youtube pay for monetization in it when they already paid you in the original stream?
Nyanners, LordAethelstan, and most indies stream on Twitch, so they haven't received any money from YouTube for their Twitch streams. Filian for example makes a lot of her money by uploading highlights of her Twitch streams to YouTube Shorts.

>>58943625
retard

>>58943625
Fuck off. Clippers just made money off someone else's content lol

>>58943625
You're 100% correct OP but ITT are full of NEETs. Once you get a job you realize you can't spend 6-10 hours watching a minecraft stream so clips are the better option.

ITT: kike-worshippers getting angry at the thought of google not getting every single penny
youtube runs ads on non-monetized videos as well

https://hololivepro.com/en/terms/
>Monetization
>We will not interfere with the use of ... any other monetization schemes ...
Clipper's skill issue

>>58945551
If they upload VODs to Youtube this point becomes invalid immediately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noc8SAHeyW8

Oh, excuse me. I dropped something...

I am a clipper with a fairly modest channel (around 10k subs). Not the one in the OP, though. A lot of clipping channels have been getting hit with the "reused content" warning over the last few months - it's something automated by YouTube, not from Cover. It happens to Niji clippers, too. Vshojo and indie clippers seem to avoid it because the original content isn't on youtube, so the automation doesn't catch it.
Getting demonetized is demoralizing, but it's a bad sign if a clipper stops entirely because of it. I know when JShay (a Korone clipper/subber) got hit by the same issue a while back, he just kept uploading normally while trying to get the issue fixed. The ad revenue is nice, but the good clippers I know all do it out of love for their oshis. Some of the worst drama clippers are clearly in it for the views/money.

I originally did not want to monetize my channel at all, but I learned that YouTube would still put ads on my channel if I declined monetization. If you become a YT partner, you get extra control over the ads on your videos, so I'm able to disable mid-roll ads and unskippable ads for my viewers. The extra revenue is not that much (around $1 USD for every 1000 views) but it gives me extra spending money which I try to use on superchats, merch, or art commissions.
Another clipper I know says he declined monetization and thinks it's negatively affecting the algorithm's effect on his channel. I don't know if this is actually true, though.
Thanks for reading

>>58944032
bro is a sky striker player lol

>>58946942
thank you for explaining, I'm not a clipper but I know it's not a Cover thing, it's a Youtube thing.

for anyone interested, you can check a channel's monetization status by looking in the source and search for 'monetization'. for video, search for 'yt_ad', some videos can still have ads even if the channel is not monetized

>>58946881 (me)
Oh and yeah. If it wasn't for clippers, we wouldn't get something like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGX9GnQObCg

good riddance

>>58943625
total
clipper
death

>>58943625
>Gura clipper doesn't have any Gura streams to clip
lmao

Do people actually unironically hate clippers this much? I get that clickbait garbage is shit but I don't really see how bringing more eyes to a streamer is inherently a bad thing, most people probably got into vtubers because they saw some random ass clip and decided to take a look.

>>58948523
most en clippers are half-assed ppl chasing for easy money with baits and low effort content. they deserve what comes to them.

>anons seething about the mere concept of clippers
I’ll give a guess that at most there’s 2 of you who started watching chuubas because of something other than clips, and the rest of you are here because you saw a clip

>>58948523
They're leeches who bait and do low effort videos for easy money. They are also the reason why vtubing has dived in quality.

>>58944377
So they can using the money to support the chuuba

>>58948523
>I don't really see how bringing more eyes to a streamer
If they actually want to do that they would either clip less popular streamers or add subtitles for ESLs. Gura doesn't need traffic donations from clippers as she is famous already, clipping Gura is just leeching

>>58948864
Anons always admit they came into vtubing because they watched a Korone/Miko clip.

>>58943625
>Clippers who genuinely want to capture some of their favorite moments from their oshi, whether it be holo/small corpo/2view with minimal comedic edits
This is fine, and shouldn't be attacked by youtube
>Clippers who put in hentai/dox/fake drama clickbait in thumbnails for the sake of views, with a title that that doesn't explain anything happening in the actual clip itself
>Clippers who take entire portions of streams un-edited for 20 minutes+ and pretend they are actual clips
>Both making bank of doing this since vtuber clip channels generate alot of revenue
These channels being shut down with no way back are nothing but a benefit for everyone. We aren't in 2020 COVID times, Holo and other big corpo's/indies don't need faggots like these to grow anymore.

Is this hitting channels that meaningfully add to the clipped video, such as subtitles?

>>58943625
>help those who are too busy to watch the entire vod but don't want to miss out on good moments in the streams
Fucking retard. Just watch the vod, you aren't even watching if you only watch clips

>>58943625
HAHAHAHAAHAHA get fucked clipper scum

What did cover mean by this?

>>58943625
>Why is Cover like this?
They are going to put more emphasis on making their own clips in the future. They don't want others taking their potential views.

It's ridiculous, but I think this is their reasoning.

>>58948864
Thats essentially what it comes down to, anons bitching about the same content that got them watching in the first place, even if the chuuba is super popular a clip still has the potential to reach the algorithm and new viewers. Did everyone /here/ just forget the Hololive nigga clips, eekum bokum, water in fire, hi honey, etc?

>>58944605
This also happen to one of the biggest Korone clippers.

>>58943625
turn off monetization or you're gay

>Faggots here not realizing clippers raised your own fanbase to what it is now internationally
>Inb4 gatekeeping is good
Get a fucking rope, bitches. And no, I don't run clip channel or anything. Without clippers many of you won't even be here, and even Hololive might flounders. Because Japanese clippers also exists.
While relying on clip money to live is cringe, it doesn't change much because guess what, Youtube still get money from ads anyway.

>>58943625
Speaking of clippers, I hate how some like Saksandayo are making their own avatar and forcing them into the clips. I used to love his long form Fauna clips but I'm worried he's going the SJtree route opening up his own membership, having emotes, etc.
I'm fine with clippers, just don't self insert yourself into them to farm internet clout

>>58953731
You’d think with all the numberfagging on /vt/ people wouldn’t bitch so much about clippers bringing new viewers.

>>58955101
The numberfags and the holoelitist have huge overlap, they own this board and squash any dissent while also harassing weaker corpos and shit on indies.
However, when it comes to clippers, numberfags had to make concession because without the dorito supremacist, their existence is meaningless.

The best clippers are the ones that translate and translate accurately, and do it for the sake of their oshi, getting their oshi known and not for clipbait shit
They’re also the ones that end up getting hired by cover

>>58955304
It’s the smaller corpo schizos and holoantis that have infested numbers thread and made it far worse
Vast majority of elitists are antis, even Japanese antis use this tactic. On Hololive cover ranking channel they’ve been infesting the comments and saying stuff like “Marine is the best diva of Hololive, we don’t need anyone else”

>>58943998
The dude had a ton of homo clips too so it’s not a real chumbud

>>58943625
>shitbud
nothing of value was lost

Learn from JP clippers.
>OP and ED
>Big fancy subtitle.
>Some extra sound fx.

>>58946881
>>58947439
It's possible to both be grateful for clippers while also thinking that 95% of them are posting non-transformative content that shouldn't be eligible for monetization.
Put in the work to make it original, or do it for free.

>>58948523
all the fags just doing it for money put a bad taste in my mouth. I'm glad I don't have to wade through twenty identical clips whose only difference is one second at the start or end anymore

>>58946942
Ok Staz

>>58946942
Oh I guess that's why lots of clippers added reaction stock arts within the vids recently, it was annoying but I guess it tricks youtube into assuming them as fair-use contents

>>58960534
be YUUSHA04

>>58944820
It's have nothing to do with COVER.
IT's Youtube that saw those channel have nothing but reuse other channel's works for their own gain, hench it's not worth having motenization in their own eye and that's why they removed monetization status.

>>58967507
I wonder when they will start going after reaction channels? I'm getting tired of getting reaction channels doing reaction videos to clipper streams on my feed.

>>58950125
>t.actual retard

>>58943625
They don't need to be paid for it, not trying to purposefully defend cover here but I think clippers are just as weaselly as corpos in their own way.

>>58970199
Nothing to do with defending or supporting Cover, since this is purely instigated by Youtube. It's Youtube's algorithms that ferret out matched content.
They don't want people to double dip and get ad rev on content that's already received ad rev.

>>58943625
I like that channel, he mostly translates HoloID clips to English.

>>58944915
>>58944922
>>58945201
>>58945278
>>58945877
>>58944651
>>58944377
Why so many anons in /vt/ have medical retardation

>>58943625
I mean… cover could just start hiring clippers and upload those clips to the girl’s official hololive channels as youtube shorts… that would probably be 1000 times better then the way we currently do it, where hundreds of grifters make free money off of hololive. Cover could do this all themselves and get way better results too

>>58971645
Why pay them if they are doing it for free.

>>58948864
I won't lie and say I didn't get introduced through clips but that was before EN was a thing and 99% of clips were subbed, so it was something beneficial to me since I can't speak or read Japanese (sadly...)
With EN clippers, what do they even do? It's not like a majority of them are TL'ing for JP fans.

>>58949018
This is retarded, why not cut out the middle man and hire someone to upload clips to the girl’s channels

>>58971694
Because then they earn all of the money from it? And by uploading it to the official hololive channels through shorts, they’d likely have a way higher conversion rate, instead of having so many people who only watch clips and nothing else

>>58943625
>Clippers are there to help those who are too busy to watch the entire vod but don't want to miss out on good moments in the streams
Not if they're trying to monetize clips. If they can go fuck themselves if they aren't doing it for free.

>>58943625
Cover cant decide to unmonetize your clips, retard, thats youtube who does it

>>58943625
>Clippers are there to help those who are too busy to watch the entire vod but don't want to miss out on good moments in the streams
Not if they're trying to monetize clips. They can go fuck themselves if they aren't doing it for free.

I'd support clippers sharing a PORTION of ad revenue with the talents + solicit donations if they are professional, can actually translate competently and have no ego. Attention whores, drama/coombaiters and ESL/TSLs who cannot even speak or type English correctly deserve fucking nothing.

>clippers
>helping
they are worthless parasites, the sooner they die out the better

>>58943625
Isn't this the usual? Corpo needs the clippers to showcase their talents and potentially bring in new subscribers and viewers who may catch the talents stream maybe even donate, expose, etc etc. Then Corpo becomes fat and greedy and see's clippers as a liability and leeches of their content despite them being one of the large reasons they became successful and they may feign ignorance or not and move on to their next meal and get even fatter.

>>58971731
Bruh I do clips and $1000 a month of revenue is not even enough for two weeks...

>>58943625
>make shitty clips that take zero effort
>monetize and make a decent amount of profit
>YT update monetization policy, reused content cannot be monetized
>can no longer make easy money

maybe put some effort into your clips so yt won't treat you as a fucking leech

Every clipper channel should be autobanned. EN people do not watch streams anymore. that's why CCV is so low for hololive English.

>>58973265
So true

>>58972713
No, because it's not Cover doing this, it's YouTube, because they look for any paper-thin excuse to not pay people for their videos
Note they still run ads on the videos, they just don't give the resulting money to the person who made them, so it was never some moral or legal stance about the content, it is purely Google being greedy

>>58975110
Sis

>>58943625
Thank you for your hard work.

the guy made decent unoffensive clips. too bad for him. cover needs in-house clipping though. that summer review stream a couple of days ago was shit.

>>58971645
Why would cover do what essential nijisanji did with their VTA. It got leaked that all VTA are basically doing a free work to be nijisanji clippers for their privilage of joining VTA.