/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>58889665
Face reveal happened

>>58889665
doesn't matter. she is the highest pay in ID

Ollie happened to Ollie.

>>58889665
i found out she was fat and i dropped her

>>58892018
you never watched her

>>58892750
why would he, she's a fat whore.

>>58889665
too many homo collabs.

>>58889665
Honest answer: Bilingual streams and collabs

>>58889665
thats what you get for being a collab whore

EN-onlies went from having five options to having eleven and so they decided to collectively forget that ID exists outside of November.

>>58889665
unity queen

>The face reveal killed Ollie
Ill be honest Ollie isn't even THAT bad looking. People tried to claim she was hideous or whatever but people found other pictures of her and she looks fine. She doesn't even look that particularly awful in the accidental face reveal. There are way uglier Holo chuubas than Ollie.
>Muh homo collabs killed Ollie
Ehhhh I don't entirely think it's that simple. Ollie is basically ID Matsuri but maybe slightly less menhera. She was able to do mostly fine with the homo collabs because people expected that of her. Her saying she wanted to destroy the idol barriers though was disgustingly retarded on her part. She's never said that again at least so im guessing she probably realized how dumb of an idea that was
>So what killed Ollie's career?
A combination of various things happening together including Yubigate which caused Ollie to suffer rather noticeable anti attention in her comments/chat. Yes an extremely retarded schizo rrat with zero evidence and backing behind it, that came into existence from a single incredibly mentally ill person rewatching an old clip and horny posting it into reality, did in fact somehow manage to get big enough of sheer stupidity that it did noticeable harm to her career.

>>58895490
>Yes an extremely retarded schizo rrat with zero evidence and backing behind it
No, it actually isn't. If you actually watch the stream, it is so blatantly obvious that it occurred that anybody who says it didn't simply hasn't actually watched it. Especially with the timestamp post that lays it out pretty bare. The only rrat part is about who could be fingering her or if it was her herself doing the fingering.

wildly inconsistent streaming schedule did her in for me

that and her Okami playthrough

seriously, she was amped to play that game and she still hasnt finished it since she started back in feb 2022

Kaela has pretty much replaced her position as the EN lite from ID
Ollie expanded into HoloEN, then expanded further through e-celeb rather than consolidating her EN position. This is where Kaela differs from Ollie.

>>58896079
t. a single incredibly mentally ill person

>>58889665
too much Apex and forcing homo collabs

>>58896079
if it was blatantly obvious what happened why did it take a schizo almost 2 weeks to begin spamming bait threads about it?

>>58889665
Decided to collab with males and Connor too much

>>58896403
>>58896495
Okay. You asked for it. Copied straight from the archive. Anybody new should follow along with the timestamps and judge for themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxD9Z5nN4TM&t=7137s
a little fun timeline, will start in 1:58:57 only for context, everything until here was normal.
>1:59:01
two motion insertion, probably first to pull out clothes and panties.
>1:59:05
then the finger goes on inside and loses her cool, screams to cover it up.
>1:59:09
Anya comforts her without a clue of what's actually going on.
>1:59:11
she screams it's not okay to her partner, trying to make it look lie she is scared/distressed, look how little sense this makes for the context of the game.
>1:59:32
little moan.
>1:59:35
big moan following an blissful "it's there" kek
>1:59:41
look how she keeps holding her breath trying to contain herself.
>1:59:46 (volume warning)
Big scream trying to hide an intense wave.
>1:59:49
Mutes herself until
>1:59:52
tries to fill the audio with continuous noises.
>1:59:58
mutes herself again, notice how quick are the intervals between interruptions trying to fool the rest that she is still there, then a big mute until
>2:00:11
blissful jiggle
>2:00:17
heavy breathing, maybe mute after notices how much time she has being without talking then unmutes herself in a bad moment.
>2:00:26
big and long moan, the other two notice that something it's up.
>2:00:30
Ollie notices how deep is her fuck up, doubles down on the false ghost appearance that didn't happen.
>2:00:38
she admits that she is bullshitting pointing at how her "heartbeat" felt it, no innuendo here, just herself genuinely losing control on her wording.
>2:00:44
Reine notices, jiggles nervously, Anya it's suspicious, Ollie on Mute.
>2:00:49
unmutes, fingering continues, she holds her breath.
>2:00:53
Moans, interrupting Anya, says "my sanity is 95" laughs herself with in awareness of the situation.
>2:01:07
she says that she does not wanna go, hinting about returning to the house but this could also mean that she is telling her partner that she does not want to leave the stream.
>2:01:12
falseflags about the fact that she is scared to end the stream soon as possible.
>2:01:38
Reine commits into cover for her, Ollie continues talking nervously, even tries to simulate that she is interacting with chat.
>2:01:50
she starts to sing clearly losing control and maybe enjoying herself.
>2:02:00
Anya loses her cool, not knowing what is happening at this point.
>2:02:04
gasp and moan.
>2:02:09
immediately after, talking to her partner not caring at all about holding the act, telling him to to stop, then mute.
>2:02:20
second time asking to stop, she gained her composure, but clearly it's too late for the other two to not notice, gets really awkward for Reine and Anya, so they stay silent. this is probably the moment when the fingering actually ended or slowed it's pace
>2:02:27
Ollie ask to end the stream somewhat done with the whole situation, she even doubles down before the others interject.
>2:02:34
she ask the others for an answer but the others are a little dumbfounded, I don't know Indog so i can't tell what they are saying
>2:02:41
they get on with it trying to end the game as soon as possible, at this point the fingering continues, or gets fast paced again
>2:02:59
Ollie comes back to the truck, ends the puzzle and closes the door with no fucks given about the rest, probably in anticipation. then muted and then unmuted, by mistake
>2:03:12
with a holding breath, she laughs and moans shortly. continues conversation.
>2:03:21
big moan and smooch sound, body tracking suggesting she leaned away to kiss him, after the others take the part of ending the game trying to cover for her.
>2:03:28
she mutes and the other two are in total silence, without knowing what to do, Reine breaks the silence with a nervous laugh to keep the conversation.
>2:03:51
trying to wrap up the stream on this point.
>2:03:55
satisfied gasp, with this the wave ends, probably lowering his fingering pace.
>2:04:44
another wave incoming
>2:04:52
loud gasp, after this probably ended the whole fingering.
>2:05:12
damage control diverting the focus on manager, kinda referring to herself.
>2:05:38
"there is a lot of salt here" probably referring on how mad Reine got out of all of this.
>2:05:47
ends the Collab
>2:06:31
She gets inside of the closet out of post coital shame and realization maybe

Nobody reasonable could watch this and say this was just normal.

>>58896598
wew, holy shit. I thought this was schizo shit at first. But going through, this is quite damning. Some of this is nonsense, but the overall picture is pretty clear...

>>58896598
olliekeks, our response?????

All thanks to moonafics anti-ing her because they are jealous of her being more succesful than their oshi and potentially winning the subs race. They are the one spreading rrat and doxx of Ollie in an attempt to destroy her.

Now, their oshi is also a shitter with a lot of deadsub, far less SC, looks like aged auntie and cucked her fans with a marriage. Good riddance

>>58891241
>doesn't matter. she is the highest pay in ID
Is she actually? How the hell is she making more than anyone else in ID?

>>58896598
Is this supposed to be a good thing or bad things?
And for me one of the reasons is her calling out the Fans for spamming her to use Indonesia. Maybe, honestly I don't know that much about Ollie other than the fact that she Collab with everyone and is literally everywhere, like seriously I remember one times her comment on some random Small clipper channel, that shit is literally uploaded less than 5 minutes ago

>>58891241
No she's not. Kaela shin is

>>58891241
i refuse to believe anyone is as big as Kobo

>>58901738
Not yet, maybe next year

>>58889665
>forced bilingual talk. always repeats what she says
>cant capitalize on her early chess obsession
>apex spam
>went on a lot of flesh collabs
>fans and other holos told her to stop letting clout chasers leech on her
>she doesnt listen
>JP fans and holos start avoiding her
>went on a tirade insulting her core ID fans
>ID fans start bleeding out
>flesh collabs dried up once parasites realize they cant use her as gateway to popular EN and JP holos
>EN watchers leave as popularity wane
>yubigate
>stupid face doxx after remaining fans and manager told her not to do it
>kobo comes and does the hyperactive thing funnier and more naturally
the situation today:
>no niche she's known for that other holos can do better
>most of her "fans" only watch clips and spam memes
>no holos reach out to collab with her except mori and other low view IDs
>even the homos like astel abandoned her
>falling from grace leaves a soul crushing inferiority complex, is now too afraid to ask for collabs with new JP and EN members
>the only core members left are blind gachikois or too new to know
>even after everything, she still thinks she's right and doesn't learn any single fucking thing
tldr: constant drama and failure to maintain a respectable reputation is her undoing. i have no idea how ollie could recover from this slump, if ever.

>>58896598
The person who wrote this has never fingered a woman in their life. I fully believe Ollie was getting teased that stream but it'd be much more plausible if she was being groped or anything similar

>>58893501
>>58896457
>>58896533
>Kobo

>>58896914
>>58896755
>>58896598
t. a single incredibly mentally ill person

>>58889665
Collabed with people who did not fucking matter, and people lost interest in her since she basically just became the number one Holomem to leech off. Hololive is not a charity for irrelevant fucks.

>>58903140
>went on a tirade insulting her core ID fans
>stupid face doxx after remaining fans and manager told her not to do it
i only watch Ollie ocacionally, usually take turn with her or Bae, as they are similar to some extent
yet i still dont know what tthe shit happen with this 2 event
now the face reveal wasnt accidental?i am lost, somone can clue me in

>>58905488
>went on a tirade insulting her core ID fans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbyQaZZMDkM
On the right day you'll find anons calling her based for this
>stupid face doxx after remaining fans and manager told her not to do it
During a Hololive merch unboxing video, her face was reflected off a cd case, anon's claim of it being intentional is just bullshit

>>58907915
>went on a tirade insulting her core ID fans
Based

>>58896321
The inconsistencies were also what did me in, yeah. I really depend on a consistent schedule so I can plan ahead. When shit gets cancelled or moved around or guerilla'd too much, it becomes a job just to keep track. Not even clicking the bell icon on YouTube's shitty platform notifies me even when I have it set to all notifs, because it prioritizes channels I consistently watch. If I end up just missing one stream, it stops telling me when someone goes live if there's another channel going live around the same time. Pisses me off.

>>58907915
>During a Hololive merch unboxing video, her face was reflected off a cd case, anon's claim of it being intentional is just bullshit
semi correct. she didn't tell her manager about the camera stream knowing well it wouldn't be approved. chat told her the entire stream to be careful or that it was not a good idea. doxx happened and the VOD vanished. this is one of the many cases of ollie being an immature idiot.

>>58908383
I still have screenshots of it when it happened. Even with what could be seen, it was hardly identifiable. It's a good thing she was wearing her hoodie.

>>58903140
>no niche she's known for
her niche was mainly rapid fire collabs with fleshstreamers which gets her massive numbers but once the whole "real person x 2d anime girl" stops becoming special many of her viewers from said collab left her
also one thing that i rarely seen gets mentioned is how she keeps self sabotaged herself in big events. in holoID hibana for example you have kobo making sushi in hillarious way, reine doing acoustic holosongs then ollie decides fucking shogi is what most non japs wants to watch for whatever reason

HOLYSHIT!! OLLIE IN PERSONA 3 RELOAD!!!

>>58904307
Kobo still has her kusogaki personality and karaoke to lean on. She also hasn't blackballed herself with the EN audience by pushing the EN girls into collabing with males like Ollie and that's despite the fact she's the most ID-only speaking of ID 3rd gen.

>>58891241
This is very easy to disprove anon…

>>58889665
All the holostars/eceleb collabs killed her channel. It’s funny because those ecelebs just saw ollie as a way to get closer to the more popular hololive girls, as soon as they realized that wouldn’t work, they completely forgot about ollie. It’s to the point where multiple ecelebs that she used to hang out with don’t even remember her name and just refer to her as “that one zombie girl”… meanwhile they still remember all the other hololive girls by name

>>58895490
>the homo collabs have nothing to do with it, she’s basically JP matsuri
Anon… matsuri has terrible viewership and also spams homo collabs… comparing those two does not support your narrative anon…

>>58905259
This. I hate ID management for allowing Ollie to collab with basically anyone with views. Koeficient was bad enough but fucking Tectone?

She will appear at Bangkok Comic Con this friday. Guess we will know soon enough how well she is received by the people there.

>>58909459
>rapid fire collab with fleshstreamers
I'm pretty sure JP Holos have done more fleshstreamers collab than Ollie. aside from chess tourney back in 2021 and the recent koefficient collab did she do any fleshstreamer collab?

>>58896598
I love it when the autists bring receipts. Deniers laid bare for the liars they are.

>>58889665
There's no one factor ruining Ollie's momentum, it was multiple combinations of bad things eroding her fanbase. But she still have some of the more loyal piggy banks.
She doesn't care about her low ccv. Besides, Anya and Iofi is even worse in that regard.

I don’t really dislike Ollie but she always came off as a little abrasive to me. Not necessarily a bad thing but she just kinda does whatever and doesn’t really think too hard about how its perceived which doesn’t do her any favours when it comes to numbers. At least among the other Holo talents she seems fairly well respected, and as much as i’m not a frequent watcher, she gave me the impression that she was much more of a Hololive fan than a normal Holo talent which is actually kinda charming in a way. I don’t really think male collabs have much to do with it, I think she just has a very “love her or hate her” kind of personality.

>>58891134
Unironically this. No matter what narrative /vt/ wants to say with their fear of males, after the face reveal she went on a decline.

Loud + male collaber + Face reveal + want to change Hololive + deceptive behavior to get her co-ed APEX collab + going out of her way to piss off her local audience wanting more streams in her native language + getting finger fucked rumors (I only say rumors nothing is officially confirmed) + Kobo = 3 view

>>58916459
The face reveal was a factor but not the only one. She was in significant decline even before that. Primary reason was Apex spam + collabs with fleshtubers and Holostars.

>>58917075
This.
Even if I don't bother to count Yubigate against her, still shows she's a shitty undesirable

>last stream 9 days ago

>>58896533
>>58896457
Dumb unicorn niggers. Stop spreading your unicorn bullshit everywhere, ID is not the same as the other branches. If you actually watched Ollie you'd know the collabs did nothing to affect her numbers and she was pulling in her best numbers around that time.

>>58916459
Trying to pull the "iTs tHe MaLeS" bullshit with ID shows how fucking stupid they are.

>>58895490
>an extremely retarded schizo rrat with zero evidence
>Zero evidence
Anon we've all seen the stream...

>>58918060
>>58918445
Careful anon. Jannies don't like you when you talk facts about ID's anti-unicorn culture.
They kept deleting moona threads

>>58889665
>What happened to her?
She died that's why she's a zombie.

>>58889665
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1901917313?t=7h52m19s
>"Oh they have the zombie girl too! I used to talk with her all the time!"
>"Fuck, I forgot her name"
ollie is literally a disposable cumrag to the e-celebs she collabed with kek

>>58889665
apex apex apex, homo collabs, trying to involve other holomems in her homo collabs, her chat got weird, yells loudly

>>58889665
I feel like it's precisely because she collabs with everyone. Ollie feels like the kind of person who tries to care about everyone, but potential viewers most likely don't feel the same way and the indifference ends up rubbing off on her.

>>58902052
Kobo has a lot of subs but they’re all SEA children. This doesn’t equate to money when it comes to supas and memberships.

>>58923673
which is why she has begun advertising english stuff. she did a long english twitter space yesterday.

>>58923743
I don’t really keep up on her, but that makes sense. The impression I always got is that her fanbase was so cancer because it was made of up Jakartan children. Hopefully she can pull it off, because getting pigeonholed is shitty as a creator.

How did people figure people were just trying to use her to get closer to more popular Holos? Sorry I never watched her.
And why didn't it work

>>58889665
The better kiara...

>>58895490
>Yes an extremely retarded schizo rrat with zero evidence and backing behind it

>>58916089
Anya is inclining tho

I EAT MY ENEMIES

>>58896321
Same, sometimes you'll get a week where she has two streams in PST prime time and for the rest of the month it's in the morning.
I wish she played shorter story games just so they could be finished in a reasonably short timespan because anything that goes on longer than three streams will reliably take several months. With Okami I honestly blame that particular timeslot is bad, I think if it either one of her other regular timeslots she could've potentially finished it by now.

>>58908460
That's not true at all

>>58917811
She's on vacation with treerat and alien doing threesome in a cabin somewhere in da woods for 4 days

>>58889665
A bunch of yabs and people getting tired of her horny baiting, competition from ID3 and Council also drained her viewership.

>>58895490
>Ollie isn't even THAT bad looking
> other pictures of her and she looks fine
The pictures where she looks half decent are literally from high school when she was younger and much thinner. In anything remotely recent she looks like indog Shrek.

>>58929386
And yet alien has still been streaming

I just want to fuck her

>>58932522
She already post her mini schedule on twitter tho?

>>58916089
Nigga what the fuck are you on? Anya has been inclining for the past year and has long since graduated from the runt of the branch status.

>>58889665
she's ugly as sin and won't fucking stop shilling homos. it's like she has a career deathwish. it's too bad because she's pretty funny and likeable, but I'm not putting up with her homo bullshit

For most people the loud = funny phase in their youth dies out pretty quickly.

>>58891241
No lol that's kaela

>>58889665
who?

>>58918445
>>58918060
Which audience was Ollie trying to court again? It wasn't the Indonesian one. Not when she told them to fuck off with their Indo begging. No. She was courting the EN audience, which got exhausted by her apex and male spam.

>>58891605
Thread should have /thread right there.

>>58889665
>What happened to her?
Twomad appeared on her channel wearing a rice fields hat.

she's very dumb as expected of her race

>What happened to her?
*screams* brrrrraaaaaaap *screams*

>>58961526
>as expected of her race
Race traitor, kek.

>>58968063
well race traitorism/self hate/huge inferiority complexes are also expected of SEAfags

>>58968970
god ollie is such a stereotype