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Why is Japan/Asia mentally ill when it comes to idols/idol culture? Literally all harassed out of existence.

>> No.5878065 [DELETED] 

>>5877985
Yeah, yeah, tell it to Bjork. Amelia's fans are equally as psychopathic and I'd be surprised if she didn't feel creeped out at times. Ameggedon ringing any bells?

>> No.5878084

>>5877985
Parasocial relationships.

>> No.5878090

>>5877985
Monoe was harassed?

>> No.5878094

>>5877985
We don't know the case about Jitome yet

>> No.5878105
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5878105

Are you saying things like these never happen in the west?

>> No.5878187

>>5877985

In all fairness, Coco has made it abudantly clear it was her own manager who she had issues with, and Cover didn't help by being run by complete idiots.

Unless you want to narrative post and say that she's covering for Cover and it was chinese antis all along, in which care, narrative away I guess.

>> No.5878198 [DELETED] 

Men are evil.

>> No.5878235

>>5878187
Coco is the result of harassment AND management being shit. Which is also a form of harassment (exclusion).

>> No.5878234

>>5877985
What happened to the middle one? Never really watched her but I recognize that one from Pikamee's videos.

>> No.5878272

>>5878187
If her content isn't substantially more "creative", however that's defined, in the coming months, can you retards shut the fuck up about the management angle already?

>> No.5878282

>>5877985
I will forgive you if you are a western bronie, the illiteracy with geography is unforgivable otherwise.

>> No.5878283

>>5878105
They deserve it.

>> No.5878303 [DELETED] 

>>5878105
literally all deserved it

>> No.5878316

>>5878234
no one really knows for sure, but a plausible rrat is that she's a government worker, and government workers in Japan can't have side jobs.

>> No.5878347

>>5878234
LIterally nobody knows. Not joking we don't know. The most popular theory, and it's only a theory, is that she worked for the state, so she had to chose between a cushy government job or vtubing. What is the evidence for this theory? There is no evidence. But we do know it wasn't a stalker or antis, since we would've heard the girls say something of the sort. But they only said "Breach of contract"

>> No.5878384

Stop shoving Monoe into this bullshit. Her contract was terminated for reason we'll never know.

>> No.5878398

>>5878105
Lennon unironically deserved to die. Don't really know the other ones.

>> No.5878552

>>5878090
Of course not but schizo needs to do a schizo thread

>> No.5878605

>>5878347
>>5878384
DRUGS

>> No.5878661

>>5877985
In many Asian countries, to openly talk about mental health is a HUGE stigma and source of shame. Instead of getting a therapist and treatment, families would rather isolate their menheras in their own rooms to save public face. As a result the menhera turns to escapist fiction as their only motivation in life.

>> No.5878691

>>5877985
Who's the girl on the left?

I know Monoe is still a mystery and Coco got screwed over by retarded management and the chinesse.

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>>5878691
nice bait

>> No.5878773 [DELETED] 

>>5878691
Holoniggers will constantly call Lulu a literal who and wonder why they're hated

>> No.5878786

>>5877985
The East has standards, yes. We should too.

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>>5877985
We were warned about Idol Culture before vtubers and now we're paying the price seeing our oshi's leave before our very eyes.

>> No.5878843 [DELETED] 

>>5878773
Lulu? The goth from Final Fantasy 10? Pekora likes her I think.

>> No.5878861

>>5878661
as it should be. It was like that in Europe and NA until the 90's. Shit was utopic back then

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>>5878605
>DRUGS

>> No.5878896

>>5878821
The Japanese might be right about having to kill Otakus they're too menhera and hurt our oshis.

>> No.5878922 [DELETED] 

>>5878861
God I miss the days where I didn't have to see suicide helpline ads and mental health charities everywhere.
In my city the vans that the council uses all have a picture of a man attempting suicide via jumping off a bridge on the side with a helpline number. Shit's not pleasant to look at.

>> No.5878923

>>5878234
Jail, accident or suicide in the worst case, she was happily streaming the day before the forced retirement

No roommate, no reincarnation, no one knows where is she

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>> No.5878965

>>5878661
It's a stigma everywhere. And even if you do talk about it there's no solution. You're talking at least millions of people, if not everyone to some degree, there is not enough people who work in the field to even address it all. And even if you did have the numbers not all of them have the expertise and knowledge to solve everyone who comes to them. It's probably going to be a permanent problem for the foreseeable future.

>> No.5878974

>>5878745
How is it bait?

>> No.5878980

>>5877985
You didn't hear anon? They left to make their own agency.

>> No.5879016

>>5878384
>>5878347
rub those neurons together in those tiny brain of yours. it's not that hard to figure out why even though they won't say it publicly.

>> No.5879043 [DELETED] 

>>5879016
You're right, I raped her to death on stream and there's thousands of people that heard her muffled screams from the other room

>> No.5879060

>pander to a market of mentally ill men outcasted from society
>surprised that they are acting irrationally

>> No.5879125

>>5879016
You're right. Pikamee raped her and since she's the star of the company Magnet was punished for being a sexy magnet. We don't know retard, and neither do you

>> No.5879161

>>5878090
By the car that ran her over, yeah.

>> No.5879205

>>5878105
I recognize Lenon. Who are the others?
>In before you need to be at least 18 years old to post here

>> No.5879354

>>5879205
I also don't fucking know who the others are. I just assumed some american randoms and didn't care at all

>> No.5879402

>>5878821
Wait until Hololive grows bigger and schizos immigrate to it from niji

>> No.5879475

What. The West is far worse than Japan about this.

>> No.5879493

>>5879402
Anon, Mel has/had a literal rapist manager

Cover didn't outright fire them, either.

>> No.5879534

>>5877985
>Japan/Asia
Have you seen the meltdowns that happen when a Twitch thot reveals she has a boyfriend?

>> No.5879550

>>5879534
No but that sounds hilarious and want to see it happen now.

>> No.5879620

>>5879493

They did after the leak. There's conflicting reports of Cover moving the manager to another position before to avoid firing him, but all known stories end up with the guy getting fired.

>> No.5879622

>>5878661
They isolate them because it's an embarrassment of the parents and siblings that they're unable to help their family in a time of need.
The vast majority of mental health stems from parents not parenting.

>> No.5879674

>>5877985
Asians are more likely to be crazy enough to kill, and having a population a lot higher than the west, the crazies tend to be into idol culture and although they make a good source of simpbucks and are extremely dedicated to their oshis, one wrong move and someone (likely one of the "idols") will be stalked and possibly raped and murdered. It's playing with fire with a lot of benefits, just be sure not to get burned.

>> No.5879675

>>5879620
but Japan does fire people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.5879691

Monoe wasn't harassed, she just did something fucking stupid.

>> No.5879703

>>5879205
I believe the guitarist was Dimebag formerly from Pantera. A deranged fan came out with a gun and shot him on stage in a middle of a show.

>> No.5879714

>>5879534
I mean, didn't UI mama just get married, and nobody cared about it all. 0 antis, only omedetous

>> No.5879726

>>5879703
What a chad

>> No.5879752

>>5879205
Christina Grimmie, I think that's her name at least. Flavor of the month pop singer who was murdered by a creepy old dude. Insane Antis are exclusive to hololive and Japan

>> No.5879757

>>5877985
Their men are full of betas

>> No.5879775

>>5878090
Hard to be harrased when no one knows who you are, she didnt even have threads here until she left

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>>5879752
>post an example of a westerner going full schizo
>"only insane antis exist in Japan"

>> No.5879800

>>5879691
like what? post nudes?

>> No.5879821

>>5879783
Shit meant to say aren't, I'll chalk that up to retardation showing

>> No.5879847

The West is far worse than Asia about this shit. So much so that the only reason you wouldn't know is because you're in too much of a weeb bubble to keep up with news and events happening elsewhere.
Japan has a strong culture of separating talents and fans. Crazy people like this are an extreme obsession, and really not a common one when you start you think about the numbers at play.
The West encourages the breeding and fostering of parasocial relationships. In the livestreaming era there're already stories of women being beheaded by fans they meet on the internet, or people getting groomed and purchased by simps before shit goes horribly wrong. You're in a bubble if you think Japan is to blame, we deal with some fucked up shit on a very regular basis.

>> No.5879887

>>5879714
They present themselves as pure maidens for GFE for all the simp money. People like ui mama can get married, and omega rei can have a child and no one cares because they don't promote themselves as someone you can fall in love with. Just look at gundou. She is a whore in every sense of the word, she has stated she has had sex for money, and no one bats an eye because she also presents herself as one.

>> No.5879939

>>5879847
Of course we have more incidents than Japan. The USA alone has almost 3x more population than Japan. Idol culture and schizos have always been a thing in Japan. Remember Perfect Blue?

>> No.5879957

>>5879620
eventually firing a rapist is a terrible look, anon. they literally gave him a chance.

>> No.5879970

>>5879752
My sister liked her and she actually wanted to go to that meet and greet thing but decided not to. Fuck, what happened to her was tragic. Didn't get any media coverage since the next day was that gay bar shooting.

>> No.5880012

>>5879493
>Mel has/had a literal rapist manager
>source: my ass
k

>> No.5880031

We literally don't know why magnet quit and Coco has said over and over and over she's quitting because she's tired of Hololive keeping her down.

>> No.5880048

>>5879703
he got shot on stage because the guy with the gun blamed him and his brother (both members and creators of pantera) for destroying the band when they kicked out their former vocalist phil anselmo.
and so they did, but they did it because phil got under serious heroin issues and was fucking the band schedules left and right, he almost died once from OD, so they decided to kick him out of the band once for all.
sorry for the shitty english, it's not my first language.

>> No.5880057

>>5879550
https://jumpkick.net/i-accidentally-mentioned-that-i-have-a-boyfriend-and-lost-half-my-twitch-subscribers/

>> No.5880067

i blame nijiniggers, everyone knows they're bad apples.
mods should delete every niji related threads or post that mention them since they bring nothing but trouble.

>> No.5880110

>>5878821
Good. I watch idol shit so that women are forced into a life of projecting virtue even if in private they are not. I am sick and tired of the gross tabloid shit of western media.

>> No.5880115

>>5880067
how many fucking layers of falseflag are we on at this point

>> No.5880127

>>5880048
The shooter thought his song was stolen. KotH did an episode with a similar plot that makes almost no sense without that context.

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>>5879674
Why don't the idols just buy a gun? Self-defense without having to depend on others is a right all should enjoy.

>> No.5880164

>>5879800
who knows? all gyari (voms creator) and her co-workers said was that she did a "contract breach" and shot herself on the foot.

>> No.5880180

>>5880057
twitch channel doesn't exist. Youtube and twitter with a similar name are owned by a fat chink according to pictures.
Why post retarded fake shit dumbass

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>>5879402
>Don't bring your idol creeps over to us at hololive

>> No.5880201

>>5877985
Lets be honest, Lulu's case is sad, but if she's gonna stream online, she needs thicker skin. Not a single person watched Monoe and she overall just brought down VOMS as a whole, so even if it wasn't cause of harassment, its probably good she's gone. As for coco, bitch was unfunny and couldn't keep her nose out of politics and killed the entire fucking china branch. She can rot in hell same as all the blind idiots who support her.

>> No.5880234

>>5880201
>rot in hell
That's an awfully strong take over a cartoon dragon. What else are you going to spaz out over today?

>> No.5880256

>>5880201
>Not a single person watched Monoe and she overall just brought down VOMS as a whole, so even if it wasn't cause of harassment, its probably good she's gone.
Fuck you, asshole.
I watched Monoe. Her TTRPG collabs were fun and she was cute trying to play horror games even if she couldn't finish them.
Go drink bleach.

>> No.5880261

>>5880201
>killed the entire fucking china branch
but that's a good thing

>> No.5880268

>>5880201
Implying Taiwan is not part of CCP China and is its own independent state is not politics, Zhang.

>> No.5880277

>>5880146
Only criminals and police are allowed that luxury in japan.

>> No.5880456

>>5880127
You're right.
the shooter was a 25 years old former marine, guy was discharged after a year of service for "undisclosed reasons", but he told his parents that we was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia by the corps.
so, the marines just said "wow, looks like we gave elite military training to a literal madman for a whole year... what about we kick him out of the corps and never speak with any authority about this ever again?"

>> No.5880543

>>5880201
dude, is everything ok over there?
need to talk with someone about stuff?

>> No.5880548

>>5879775
>monoe didn't have any threads
The hipster wapanese flocked to her and spoke of her and occasionally made threads about her. Yes they died due to being art threads but they were still there. Christ I want all the newfags off this board. Go to /jp/ already.

>> No.5880576

>>5880201
based nijichad speaking hard truths to this dumb faggots

>> No.5880719

>>5880012
At the very least, the most widespread theory regarding what Mel went through is that

>> No.5880787

>>5880012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHB0mZQ0dRg
It was literally the first big news on Hololive in the drama circles

>> No.5880854

>>5880146
Coco literally showed, on camera, the cattle prod-level taser she got after an uber eats guy went inside instead of just handing her the order, in a member stream. It was the strongest thing she could find that was legal to own in Japan unless you have a hunting license.

>> No.5880870

>>5880787
the fuck is that thumbnail

>> No.5880879

>>5880201
>Coco: 4.7% of my fans are from Taiwan
>this rrat: why you can't keep your nose out of politics
fuck off

>> No.5880893

>>5880787
WTF Mel is used goods....

>> No.5880905

>>5880870
"drama" YT shit ofc

>> No.5880938

>>5877985
It's because of idol culture that you don't have incessant political talk and also that you don't have vtubers talking about their boyfriends. Be very very thankful for idol culture.

>> No.5880998

>>5880201
Go suck chink cock you microdick lover.

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>>5880787
>Hero Hei
You expect me to believe you?

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despite being only 9% of /vt/ nijiniggers commits 90% of the harrassment against livers including their own

>> No.5881097

>>5880201
I hope you're hit by a car you only deserve pain.

>> No.5881165

>>5880854
That socially awkward guy could prove to be the factor that saves her life.

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>>5877985
Kind of bummed out about Lulu's graduation. I didn't follow her regularly, but being bullied by stalkers into graduation is a shitty situation.

>> No.5881198

>>5881031
Then do you believe lyger's translations?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/gkt7uf/yozora_mel_just_tweeted_this_i_do_not_understand/fqt8cxr/
anyway, it's in the past, at least she's trying to leave it there.

>> No.5881313

>>5880456
What should they have done? Kneecap his ass?

>> No.5881320

>>5880201
Coco should have never left her AV job

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>>5877985
>Why is Japan/Asia mentally ill

>> No.5881465

>>5880938
vshoujo doesn't talk about politics and their boyfriends

>> No.5881468

>>5881198
>moving past your traumas instead of trying to reliving the nightmare for the sake of being accepted inside a group of sycophants that who will inevitable backstab you and leave you for dead socially when you begin to become a bit too much of an inconvenience but you have no other choice because you were raised to believe that social justice was a good thing and you spend the rest of your life shitposting and hoping for your eventual demise because you wasted your college years believing in someone's con and having absolutely nothing to show for it
Mel is a faggot.

>> No.5881511

>>5881052
Anon...

>> No.5881602

>>5879939

When I first heard about the Mel incident all I could think about was Perfect Blue.

>> No.5881616

>>5880938
Why don't you get a girlfriend if you want a girlfriend?

>> No.5881697

>>5880201
Nice bait ching chong, here's that attention you wanted, now go take your meds... Or cyanide, either one works

>> No.5881700

nearly 100% of people who use the term 'idol culture' will have never actually interacted with idol in any way, so it's a perfect term to use as a boogieman for whatever happens that you don't like

>> No.5881778

>>5878272
>her content isn't substantially more "creative
That's just vague enough and ill-defined of a metric for losers like yourself to bitch about whatever she ends up doing.

>> No.5882012

harass my nuts faggot

>> No.5882031

>>5880938
you and the rest of the GFE fags are so fucking awful, seriosly get a life dude, hit the weighs, take a shower, have sex and get a clue

>> No.5882092

>>5879714
She did?
Are you sure you're not talking about Tamaki?

>> No.5882140

>>5879674
Nice try whitoid don't you have a mass shooting to attend?

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>>5880201

>> No.5882154

>>5881602
the fuck is perfect blue?

>> No.5882177

>>5881468
The Aristocrats!

>> No.5882191

>>5882154
why do you even watch vtubers at this point

>> No.5882216

>>5882154
lurk 5 more years.

>> No.5882242

>>5881313
>baaah we cant do nuffin we dindu nuffin we just militarized a schizo yep nuttin we can do to prevent a tragedy
Don't forget to send Israel money while complaining about the jews.

>> No.5882270

>>5882191
because they're cute? and it helps with my japanese
>>5882216
>muh super sekrit club
lol
k

>> No.5882289

>>5882154
It's the movie about jfgi of course

>> No.5882407
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>>5881372
Too many people, too scarce human relationships (talking to a cashier doesn't count). Dehumanization of the self and of others. Societal pressure about "what is expected" of someone and the constant fear, anger and anxiety that comes with trying to climb the corporate ladder. Perfect breeding ground for mental health problems from girls like Pekora who fear strangers to sociopaths who refuse or are incapable of feeling empathy or remorse. Who knows maybe if I lived in a 14 million megalopolis I might also feel a little misanthropic.
The west has been heading there for a while too. We are just not at their level YET.

>> No.5882407,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>5882154
Some movie about idols a guy made over 20 years ago, basically Misery by Stephen King except nobody is stupid enough to think every fan of a writer is a crazy stalker

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>>5882154

>> No.5882870

>>5877985
Based

They purge their own shit instead of praising it

We should do the same in the west

>> No.5882890

>>5878605
Most believable rrat is she applied to another company while still under contract

>> No.5882907

>>5882154
A movie some guy made 20 years ago about idols. Like Stephen kings Misery, except nobody is stupid enough to think Misery is representative of the author experience

>> No.5883020

>>5882289
>>5882907
oh, okay
i dont watch weeb animes

>> No.5883025

>>5882154
The absolute fucking state of this board

>> No.5883163

>>5882031
I'm not GFE though and I already do hit the weights. If you want typical female streamer behaviour then there's plenty of that around.

>> No.5883296

>>5882154

Some overhyped artsy-fartsy anime bullshit about idols.

>> No.5883509

>>5881468
Didn't read.

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>>5880201
>couldn't keep her nose out of politics

Nice made up shit you got there. What else do you have?

>> No.5885754

>>5880201
This dude tried to bait the most people possible shitting on different VTubers from different companies and he succeeded. Good job, anon, quality bait

>> No.5886100

>>5878745
>>5878691
But who is the girl on the left?

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