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>>58781966If they could have just stuck with DKC and OoT until they ended it would have been far more kino content
Do we need to re-evaluate Kronii's power level or call it a one off thing and memory hole it? (Bae got JP holiday buff too)
AI sure is a thing>>>/wsg/5268081
>>58781882>Most people that are watching Hololive events are watching all of the Hololive events.Let's do a math. Matsuri's ccv, let's be generous, average at 5kccv for regular stream, and for Pekora, let's be generous too and give her 40kccv on average. Pekora's live had ~120k recently on top of my head, while Matsuri's live had ~55k, again on top of my head. The difference is 65k, and the difference between their generous average ccv is around 35k. There is clearly 30k (if not more) are interested in watching Pekora's 3Dlive than Matsuri's 3Dlive.
Now that unicorns have saved Kronii, how do we save the other girls?
>>58781892holy cope. Yes mindshare does help with vod views. It's why Myth even ignoring gura usually moggs council in Vod views. Mindshare at it's core is just "the degree to which non-holofags know your name" and yes that is something that helps with VODs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok
>>58781872she should just let the other holomems groom her, if she gets raped then that's a bonus
>>58782008The obvious answer is to wait for more data and see, because that's what you do when you want to measure someone's abilities
>>58781912It can be interpreted the other way around: If I'm collabing with them, it means I like them enough to call them a friend, which also fits with the rest of the transcript. I believe what I see and so far there's no much to see, anyway.
>>58781892>mindshare have nothing to do with VOD>having more people know about you and have you in their minds have nothing to how many people watch youThe absolute state of numbers
>>58782019>Matsuri's ccv, let's be generous, average at 5kccvIsn't that like, not generous?She isn't doing that bad, is she?
discord actually think there's a holy crusade against beggars and unicorns and jerusalem is in subreddit, when unicorns just wants mary to keep being pure
So you can't even iterate the word "cuckling"? Wow this really is /uuu2/.
>>58781980/news/ anchorReply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!News from today:>Kronii 3D showcasehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GQKQ5vAskA>Linon Amakomo of Sony Music copystruck by Sony Musichttps://twitter.com/linonamakomo/status/1703502739962282329Yesterday's news:>SEKAI talk voice extensionhttps://findmestore.thinkr.jp/products/ktr-000-0121>Fauna 3D showcasehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4CLpVz7m4Q>Matsuri's live got EN subshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB-8A760jtI
>no tempiss graduation videos>fucks vshitshow exposer instead
>>58782008>re-evaluateStop shitting up the thread. She performed within expectation.>>58782019That doesn't argue against what im saying. That just means that even more hardcore fans are watching that specific event not that more casual fans are watching Matsuris.
>>58782063lol get banned
Spare me SapGods~~ I’m so tender and weak and at your mercy~~You could do anything to me~~
If Mumei with her mindshare doesn't get bigger numbers then both Kronii and Fauna i can safely say they were both botted
>>58782025Myth has better VODs because they have better algo push due to how fast they got to 1M subs. Myth is actually reclining in VODs compared to their peak.
>>58781551If you took a look at they're debut goals their "endgoal" is to literally get JP/Gura huge. Their going the idol route and want to become major Hololive/Japanese figures hence goals such as:>Become a Japanese Tourism Ambassador>Be in a video game>Get Figures>Be in Doujinshi>etcTheir ambition is to become a recognizable icon in Japan.
>>58782008what are you even talking about this was obvious to non-brainrot fags.if she ever returns to streaming normally she will incline from advent fresh blood the same as everyone else has.
As an aggrieved regloss fan who had endured abuse by saplings yesterday, I'm happy with the way today turned out.
>>58782063You couldn't even keep your mental illness contained for a full thread. How much taxpayer money is wasted on your mental care?
>>58782008?? The power level since 2022 has literally always been >Kronii (when tries) > Mumei (when she tries) > Fauna > Mumei (when she's tired) > Kronii (when she's lazy) > BaeThere's nothing to change because it's always been that way
Did you know that Lamy water is regularly retrieved and processed using inhuman means? DO NOT support Momosuzu Corporation without reading this
>>58782087>She performed within expectation.A full third of this thread expected her to get 40k or below, and another third expected her to get below Fauna's 50k, piss off
>>58782082>vshitshow exposer insteadwho?
>>58782072Immediate grudeposts for those who replied to this >>58781763
>>58782089Only kronies talk like this
>>58782063>this really is /uuu2/Glad you noticed
>>58782113Yeah they're all reclining from their peak, council too. because EN vtubing is reclining. That doesn't change the fact Myth has more mindshare which helps them out in this area
Unicorns just want female talents to play without being bothered by males, is there anything wrong with that?
>>58782128Wait. How?How the fuck does a SPOON help in getting Lamy water?!
>>58781980https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwGAcKnE-y4&t=2552s>I'll be collaborating with friends and people who may be potential friends>Now this is possibly quite rare, simply because I have to study people>I have to study characters to understand them>The more often you see them, the more likely they have reached friend status>But you will not really know unless I mention so>So please respect those around me, ok?The only sane way to interpret this was "some people I collab with may be friends, but you shouldn't assume anything and you shouldn't harass them"Now some people jumped to the conclusion of "she's going to do controversial collabs" since collabs don't usually result in harassment, and some jumped further to controversial collabs meaning homocollabs. None of that's happened yet though.
This post is dedicated to this >>58781708 anon from last thread.Oh hello there. You wouldn't mind if I shat on your post, yes? I'm assuming you won't because you clearly don't mind shitting on the thread. Let's begin. It's highly likely that Bae will have the worst numbers for the 3D showcases, but besides that... She's had one of the best showcases of all of EN, probably only behind Gura. It's the antithesis of your so-called "boring drivel," actually. Calm and soothing doesn't equal boring, you absolutely retarded zoomer. She doesn't "pretend" to be an idol, because she is one. She always has been, just like her oshi before her. Gura and Watame wanted to be on the stage with her, because not only do they both respect her, but because they appreciate who she is and what she does. Her singing only sounds like shit if you've server 3 tours in Iraq and can't hear anything without your cute little hearing aids. Her ASMR is like a cherry on top of the sundae of cuteness that she is. Kronii got a higher CCV thanks to setting up a storyline and due to Fate mindshare. To think that Fauna sounds like "roadkill" when she sings, is frankly a farce, and you should feel bad for even thinking of such improper language to call her that. In short, you're a retarded, absolutely deaf, frankly embarrassing person. You don't even deserve to be spat on by Fauna. My best advice to you to find a nice comfy rope, tie it around your cock, tie the other end to a Boeing 747, and finally kiss your manhood goodbye. You don't deserve it. You fucking faggot. >Verification not required.
>>58782134>Source: a poll that shows results as you voteAre you really that retarded that you're getting mad at people having fun?
>>58782082people always beg for tempiss graduation videobut what about that time irys dunking on homobeggars about hlzntl and they attacked her for it... i feel thats pretty important on exposing the homobeggars, sadly it got overshadowed by the graduation
>HOLOLIVE BOARD>HOLOLIVE THREAD
God, it's nice to have a schizo directed at you, not only do they shower you with constant attention even if nothing is going on they are also really easy to filter outLuv Fauna btw
>>58782087>That doesn't argue against what im saying.uhuh>That just means that even more hardcore fans are watching that specific event not that more casual fans are watching Matsuris.LOLIt seems like you are doing the job and refuting it yourself.
>>58782128What about wamy milk?
>>58782117I disagree with that last part, I think the window to incline from Advent newfags has, if not already closed, started closing pretty hard at this point.Advent newfags are closing in on the two month line for their girls. They're settling in, and the "growth from being around" has already filtered into the girls that have been interacting with them. So Kiara, Mori, Mumei, Fauna, and a little bit of Bae.I don't know if there's much room for new growth stemming specifically from Advent newfags for the rest of the EN pack.
>>58782136The one who made videos about Froot and her cheating.
>>58781430libraries rule fag.gots all the hot music and anime and manga.I fucking read nausicaa from my public library twenty years ago
>>58782185Unironic retard.
>>58782115I’ll never understand the mindset of reposting your comments.
>>58214912So it looks like Ui's dance to her song is catching on in tiktokhttps://www.tiktok.com/tag/粛聖ロリ神レクイエムhttps://www.tiktok.com/@nin__gn05/video/7279748582679366914https://www.tiktok.com/@maria1313minnie/video/7279422392395402503https://www.tiktok.com/@ramux_xu/video/7280005884384677121
>>58782023The sex pest leech homos were graduated so they should heal in time. I had some hope for Mori but she just released another hater song that’s flopping, so I don’t know if she can be healed.
>>58782072God damn, FWMC are nerfing themselves with shit games way worse than I thought. Also>BijouAnybody arguing her for first army EN needs to put a bullet in their brains.
who will steal her first?
>>58782023Let them replicate the "Kronii Strategy">1 on 1 collab with homo>Comment on homo's underwear >call the idol senpai, company and fans trash >stream less >do bare minimum and show up only to collect paycheck
>>58782154Yeah, EN as a whole has been reclining hard. EN VODS used to run circles against JP but they can't even beat midtier HoloJPs nowadays
>>58782157I wanna ship them with some of the bois tho….
>>58782146kek, this made me laugh because it's truet. notsokronie
If FWMC's goal is to become giga popular in Japan and have their success largely come from the JP side of things that aren't the ruffians a little justified in being concerned?
>>58782214Better chance at getting (yous) in the next thread.
>>58782174kinda hypocritical of them, yeah, they could just stop watching irys if they don't like it
>>58782174>im retired form romanceThey really are incels huh
>>58782202My local library even loans out Switch games nowShit's wild. They have a 3D Printer!
>>58782171That is just regular cuckling setting up grugdeposts. Bae historically has worse performance on these kind of things so I agree with you. I don't even think Mumei can surpass Fauna unless she got the same promotion and spirit bomb like Fauna. That aside, knowing that someone enjoy her ASMR is quite nice to hear, because not many people would admit they have a cuck fetish like you do and mentally ill enough to not go back to your own thread.
>>58782096Mumei is going to be a raid baby again with the Fuwamoco karaoke raid buff.
>>58782226That's fucking hilarious
>>58782072Damn how can mousey even compete with Gura…..
>>58782240if they play around with some bois i can imagine my 0v career taking off and me being in that spot
>>58782233Really? Another one? (I stopped following her discography after Mera Mera)
>>58782234ao-chan
>>58782161Really? Because the interpretation sane people went with was "I may not collab with who you want me to collab with so don't collab beg" and you culture war obsessed retards called it cope
>>58782253They have more immediate concerns like the Mori collab and their RM project
Thoughts on Bin Raden's utter refusal to market herself as a holo in her zatsu streams? All of her genmates and other JP holos format their stream titles with [insert holo name]/ホロライブ but she doesn't. Is this a way to appeal to the JOP niji audience? She probably has the least EOP presence in all of hololive right now which is a good thing mind you.
>>58782241The most submissive fanbase
>>58782226I remember an anon saying it would be harder for it to blow up because the choreo is more complex than say treasure box or muzai pirates. People just like popular things and that is easy enough to do with some practice.
>>58782226Kek. It looks weird due to having to speed it up but funny nonetheless.
In the end we ALL KNEELED.
>>58782233>another hater songWhen will she fucking learn?Shes still copying normies way of thinking
>>58782295Tranny go back
>>58782172>spreading falsehoods in numbers is having funI warned you about the nijiniggers bro
>>58782315>>58782233maybe we are all the haters...
>>58782337Stop shitting up the thread faggot
May I ask why thread feels more usable today when Kronii gets numbers compared to yesterday, when Fauna did?
>>58782315>>5878228790% of rapper songs are either taking about sex or their haters tho
Irys and fauna mogged by a homo collaber
>got banned hardcore for hours>reverted to coping and posting reddit tier essays on "abuse of power" and shit>as soon as he thinks the meido isn't around he goes right back to the shit that got him banned in the first placethey never learn
>>58782072Advent hype really died that fast huh? Golden gen my ass.
>>58782253Regloss pretty much stopped any chance of that working.
>>58782313>Sana
>>58782313AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Ka-KAUNSHIRU TSU-TSUYOI SUGIRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>58782236>BijouTrue average charts are known as shitposting when not posted with median and mean for a reason anon
>>58782287He’s writing retarded fanfiction because she did an English cover of INTERNET YAMERO
>>58782319NIJISEETHE
>>58782233>>58782287>>58782315It's... It's a cover song... From a game she (and loads of other holos) played...
>>58782072Alright, call me a newfag to /#/ but qrd me as to why hours watched isn't as important as ccv. Is it a youtube thing or what?
>>58782313I’m not kneeling to Sana or Bae! I kneel to Kronii’s tits and I kneel to Mooms and Faunas peak femininity
>>58782343So you can turn this place into your nijinigger playground? Not a chance nijinig
>>58782253Gooba and Mori managed to do it without having to heavily pivot their content. FWMC can do the same and just throw the occasional metaphorical bone at the JP audience to retain their attention. Their Karaoke for example already does that since they're music tastes appeal to old NicoNicoDouga users.
>>58782302Well Bishopai has around 40k TikTok videos on the official audio while Ui's has less than 1.5k, so it definitely hasn't caught on to the same level yet.
>>58782295>I may not collab with who you want me to collab withagree with this>so don't collab begwouldn't make sense for her to say "please respect those around me" then, by "those around me" she means her "friends" and "potential friends"
Love them
ririka stream has more variety than the other regloss but jop love raden and hajime more....
Ririka chan...
>>58782356The most concerning part is that he's so far gone he seems to think we can't tell that it's him.
>>58782233Who else is there to even hate her? Hate imply that there are people still invested enough to react to her shenanigans. All I see is apathy for her rather than hate.
>>58782344because sisters are getting banned for shitting on fauna kek
>>58782008Kronii always had the highest tourist ceiling, the only thing that might need re-evaluating is how much she's hurt it over the last year or so.Really though big events are too rare and far apart to draw any reasonable conclusions. Trying to draw conclusions from single data points is idiotic, which is why we do it here
>People ITT trying to argue that homo collab did nothing to Kronii CCV when we have a year worth of data proving otherwise It's wild how a single tourist heavy stream can make people forget.It's like the whole Salami era never existed....
>>58782315What should she do then? Idol song? I'm pretty sure that one also flopped hard
Fauna will never be an idol. She will never be popular. She will never be able to sing well.She will never be able to dance well She will never inspire people. She already decided she was going to spite her followers by saying she doesn't ever think of them as friends. And it's because of all this the "gaming idol kirin" got dunked on by Kronii who didn't even pretend. Fauna can lie and love bomb all she wants but people who follow her know better
>>58782063This is the new landscape of /#/5% numberfagging Indians30% uuu2 residents 30% who2 residents30% inf2 woke activists4% schizo celebrities (gokischizo, Jeremy, no mercy or whatever the fuck their names)1% neutral NPC (bakers, news anon, Ringo anons)
>>58782298Literally have no idea what her audience looks like, also quite a large-sized one at that too. But with the usual time slot and topics, I would assume that she's popular with old/middle-aged office workers.
>KURONICHIWA~
>>58782372>>58782376>Cover a sing about gay sex>”I donot actually like or endorse gay sex u guise!”
>>58782359>3 members get 1m watch hours in half a month>"Wow where did the hype go">>58782388>still seething about a pollStop shitting up the thread sister, im going to vote 20k CCV on the next one
>>58782376Ah I thought she made another spite EP on her rm.
>>58782378Streaming 10 hours to an audience with 2k ccv every day for a month will net you the same hours watched if you do daily streams for 1 hours in front of 20k views for the same period of time
>>58782405It’s also been out for like a month longer
>>58782376And she translated the lyrics so she knew what she was covering, right.
I'm starting to get Ririka's VOD on my front pageBut not the current stream, weird
>>58782344There are more people falseflagging as saplings than kronies, simple. Also that guy that hates fauna is one of the most mentally ill fags itt.
>>58782370Bijou doesn’t even have to deal with the debuff of SC readings as much as a lot of other ENs, the fact that her average is that low in spite of that is pretty grim.
>>58782276You see, anon, I really don't think that someone like you even has the very minute amount of intelligence to realize that no one is taking you seriously. You can say "cuckling" this and "faunkek" that, but at the end of the day, all you are is a whiny little faggot, upset at the fact that she *is* an idol, despite the picture you attempt to paint. To be this attached to a girl due to sole feelings of hate, jealousy, and envy is truly sad, and shows who the real cuck here is. You can shitpost however much you want, but know that you'll always be wrong. This thread *is* the Fauna thread, and it always will be. She carried the entirety of HoloEN in the first half of the year. She's Queen Fauna for a reason, you know. But you probably wouldn't even know that, being the raider that you are. You're going to go back to your Discord server, upset that ONE (1) anon was able to pinch your bitchass so hard you retreated. So have fun, I guess.
>>58782344Kronii attracts the usual posts from people who dislike her, and there are basically no actual kronies here to care. On the other hand, /#/ is known for having a high opinion of Fauna and being a home for saplings, so obviously the shitposting and thread derailment will be severe. The same would happen if something happened to Moom and we saw what happened with IRyS a few weeks ago.
>>58782449Do you put every Holo cover song under scrutiny? What about all the holos that covered stuff like Usseewa? Or Idol?>>58782477It's not even the first song she's done translated lyrics of.
>>58782427
>>58782441Or, OR, you can do what most of us normal people do and come here in reasonable hours (NA) and get a mostly perfectly fine experience (that is also /whobaubauuugggemrys/) for numbers
>>58782226Most of it looks like shit due to speed up
>>58782378if you want to make it a thing make it a thing.its mostly ignored because its not live data and can't be spammed instantly.and also because it validates im sleep meta
>>58782226Bless them for trying to make it work but the Ui's cunny dance legit does not work unless you do some editing to cut out some frames and speed up the movement.
>>58782426Stop falseflagging maggot. No one cares. IdolCHADS won. The end.
>>58782315when will you niggers learn to stop taking a random fucking /#/ post as evidence instead of actually doing a 20 second research? why am i surrounded with actual fucking retards?
what is this mental illness? Why are you fags still arguing about dumb shit?
>>58782427The fact that people like you anti her means she's popular. So, thanks for keeping Mommy relevant anon! She only fails once people stop talking about her!
>>58782072even with Advent it will always be SNO, and this even before Mumei 3D
>>58782479She's inclining!The kawaii positive genius herself!
>>58782477Song praising the Internet addiction?
>>58782441>no mention of homoschizo>no mention of schizo who will call you a sister for everything>inflating who and inf numbersAlso bakers got banned from sapmod from time to time.
>>58782378Hours watched isn't a publicly available stat on youtube so getting those figures relies on some math and guesswork, which makes it a ripe breeding ground for shitposts and arguments, which nijiniggers and people who think like nijiniggers abused until today where everyone who seriously brings up watched hours is treated as a troll
>>58782513>and also because it validates im sleep metaDoesn't really because stream hours is the second most important part of the calculation.
>>58782451Hours watched is just a product of streaming a lot.
>>58782441Numbers is as worthless as global now.
Always win. Never lose.
>>58782449Are you one of those retards who kept spamming "SHE HATES HOLOLIVE" at every holo that did a cover of Idol until you couldn't keep up when like 2/3 of the company did it?
>>58782498I don't judge people for having a fetish so I will leave you alone.
>>58782534SAPGODS AND THEIR FOES DELIVERING US VICTORY
>>58782560No, its CCV multiplied by your stream hours.If you stream 1000 hours it's not impressive, if you stream for 1 viewer you will not impress anyone either.It's not complicated stuff. Best metric.
>>58782441>woke activists Nigga what
>>58782157Oh, if only
The only metric that matters is how much money a Holo is making for Cover. Gura, Ina, and Mori are the queens of EN.
>>58782587Liking cute girls isn't considered a fetish. You do know that, right?
>>58782359They did better than council.
cucklings
>>58782503>Do you put every Holo cover song under scrutiny?IRyS released a cover with wedding bells on it for her anniversary the same day she sold people copies of our wedding ring because she's so proud of our marriage.
>>58782344The shitposters got deleted earlier because they got mad at Fauna.
>>58782449Bros I can’t believe MiComet both have secret kids…
>>58782428Seems to have done alright.
I'm gonna go to sleep but before I do I'm dropping this list:>/#/'s girls:>Pekora>Marine>Migopi>Suisei>Okayu>Mr. Paradise>Koyori>Kuroe>Fauna>IRyS>Mumei>Gura>Mococo>Bijou>Kaela>Raden>Ririka
>>58779127a frog?
>>58782594So Kiara and Mori are 2 of the strongest ENs is what you’re saying?
>>58782614Yeah I wouldn't call that a fetish, no.
>>58782171Based
>>58782585only retards think idol is anti-idol
>>58782521BASED
>>58782651It's the best metric to gauge their success. You can do a very simply calculation to compare any watch hours with eachother based on CCV or stream hours.
>>58782560>Mumei>6 stream>one of the highest watch hoursrebroadcast is new meta
>>58782427Kiara said you don’t need to be good at singing or dancing to be an idol and I trust her more than you guys.
>>58782596kek if you haven't realized whats really up with kronies by now you ain't got a prayer in this world
>>58782171>She's had one of the best showcases of all of EN, probably only behind Gura.Gura's was awful what the fuck were you smoking? A good 20% of it was fucking Kanauru transitions, she performed 3 songs, and spent 12 minutes on a garbage math section that got annoying after the first 3.
>>58782672So that's a yes on that anon I was replying to.
>streams>stops streaming for the girl's 3D showcase>continues streaming the same game right afterThis tickles me. The old man just wants to stream. Go Shinri go!
It's been over 50 fucking days of exclusively Advent only collabs with practically no homo and Niji interactions whatsoever on stream and on twitter and you cretins are still anticipating the The Collab™
https://twitter.com/kobokanaeru/status/1703668184992432171>VRChat with real namewhy is she like this?
>>58782594Hours watched is a shit metric for gauging anything except hours streamed. Kaela is regularly like top 10 in all of Hololive for hours watched, but are you really gonna argue Kaela is top 10 in Hololive as far as popularity or strength?
>>58782722My Kayfabe...
>>58782054she never recovered after the 2nd(?) menhera episode
pwease pwease collab with my gayby tempisser and tempooper
>>58782706Wait, anons didn't like Gura's? Am I in the minority here?
>>58782719Don't care about "The Collab™". Shiori is just shit
>>58782722ESL-kun, she's clearly talking about playing with the name Kobo.
>>58782706I'll agree the math section dragged a bit but apart from that Guras was amazing.
>>58782722What do you mean, Kobo is her real name
>>58782632>1 of the first>second lowest only beating MelNene…
>>58782226
>>58782427>dunked on by KroniiReminder that this is the 3D showcase SC rankings for holoEN>¥1.500,000+1. IRyS: ¥1,858,7822. Kiara: ¥1,688,609>¥1,000,000 - ¥1,499,9993. Fauna: ¥1,084,5854. Mori: ¥1,058,876>¥0- ¥999,9995. Ame: 991,7466. Ina: ¥879,0997. Kronii: ¥816,4488. Gura: ¥753,602Kronii got less SCs than Ina, who doesn't even read them.
>>58782596NTA but you should've seen what they were saying in global an hour ago. Shit was funny as fuck.
>>58782722She really fell off huh
>>58782633I didn't know migopis are mostly girls. Kuroe is seldom mentioned here.I don't really think the last samurais are into homo Device. Maybe they do I idkI think fuwawa ranking should go up after all that beating she gave to mococo in marika
>>58782744when is this bitch coming back?
>>58782744My wife
>>58782719Next week for sure
What's wrong faunaschizo? Scared?
>>58782744i actually fell in love with herlike fr fr
>>58782745It was okay i guess. Definitely better than Ame’s though.
>>58782763>Mumei will be the lowest no matter whatit's over hoomen, pack it up
>>58782632>not ranking this list by viewsmy autism is activating
>>58782757You know, people say this is hard, but I can do this dance outside of the frame skipping stuff at the very end
>>58782171>>58782498cringe sapling>>58782276>>58782587cringe saplingschizoplease jannygods give us flags i need to be able to filter these thread celebs
>>58782722shitposting the dox away, she's the best
>>58782763whotards btfo
>>58782749Well she's an EN chuuba so that's pretty much expected
>>58782364>>58782383>Sana>Anons missed out on thisThis alone is enough for me to kneel desu
>>58782803It wasn't a ranking, just what showed up in order when I searched. If I was going to order it I'd have done it from most recent to oldest anyways.
>>58782763>SC COEPCan’t wait for Kroniis forcefully acquired viewers vs natural growth or other classics from the NIJICOEP list
>>58782626Nah they don't have one. Otherwise a new holo will rush to miko while yelling "Miko neesan~~~"
>>58782807Please be in Dover, Delaware
>>58782812>suddenly loving cute girls is cringeWhat a fag.
>>58782751Math section was LITERALLY the best part of her showcase. God damn why does /#/ have such horrific taste? You guys just want every showcase to be a cookie cutter concert.
>>58782745As far as I can tell it's pretty divisive because of how different it was
>>58782745Gura’s was good. All you could nitpick about it is that she used Kanauru (which were good segments) and the math part where she got buried in Ebis took too long.
5ch just realized that fauna is a whore
>>58782298Don't think the tag is a deterrent for anyone except the most staunch nijicucks. Lap used to lay on the unicorn pandering pretty thick and she was still able to amass a group of viewers that weren't hololive fans.
>>58782842Concerts are GOODI LIKE CUTE GIRLS SINGING
>>58782722small attempt to violate NDA, mane-chan pls undastand
Reminder that Unikeks lost Irys by anti’ing her after the HZTL stuff causing her to take a break from streaming. It’s No wonder she went and looked for refuge with Kronii.
>>58782842The math section should have been maybe half as long.
>>58782521>no centerCowards
>>58782735Stop with the cope.You just divide the stream hours for who you want to compare it with.Ironmouse and Pekora as an example:8610000/940 = 9,1598370000/270 = 34,875Is your problem that you can't do math?
>>58782524you mad nigger?
>>58782058Which discord? There are retrards on the subreddit thinking the place is being raided by 4chan
>>58782197I mean Kronii's natural time is deep PST she would be a garbage collector by default. At that point its just up to her to keep em entertained. She did alright converting biboo idiotically raiding a sc stream into a chill puzzle game thing.
>>58782842I'm NTA but I agree, i liked it. I do think the joke went a bit too long and it should have been shaved in length.
>>58782763What happened to Gura
>>58782840nothing wrong with loving cute girls, it's just the way both of you type, you both have some kind of autism
>>58782854>just realized.who do you think helps dox Fauna every week?
Ado
>>58782842I never said it was bad, it was good just went on a bit too long.
>>58782498>>58782171Fauna will never be an idol. She can lie about it all she wants but no one who routine ghosts their fans like she does can get to call themselves an idol. She literally doesn't give a fuck about her fans and all she does is say bullshit to keep the more retarded ones placated. >>58782763Stop coping with SCs when the gap isn't even big.
>>58782896Gura's SC game was never strong
>>58782880twitch numbers are like 80% bots man
>>58782872Reminder that if she hated them she wouldn't have appeased them with thishttps://files.catbox.moe/5hgeaq.webm>Company asked me to do this sponsorship>Exciting to not just play Overwatch but to team up and play with JP girls, this is a JP girls sponsored collab>Holostars will be in their own VC separate from us, so I won't be talking with them for this sponsorship>This is something I also confirmed with management beforehandAlso reminder that her stated reason for the break is being sick, and she's said this on twitter multiple times.
>>58782899I enjoy writing. I frequent both the writing general and numbers.
>>58782745It was good but people wanted her to sing and dance more because their oshi’s aren’t constantly showing up in other concerts like Gura. That said Cover better give her then 3D live she wanted or imma fucking anti them
>>58782911Can Holo and Niji even compete?
>>58782880I'm not sure which is funnier.The fact that Bahroo is on this listOr the fact he's second to lastKEK
>>58782896Chumbuds don’t give a shit about SCing unless there’s a chance Gura reads it.
>>58782896alcoholism
>SC COPEDamn, Saplings are turning into Luxiemsister
>>58782896Her fans buy merch
https://files.catbox.moe/bveh7j.mp4>7400 ccv / 10+ chats per minHOLY MOTHER OF DORYAMET I KNEEL
>>58782923I know, what does that have to do with it? I don't care about Ironmouse numbers. All you have to do is look at the date, the hours streamed and then you don't need to respect it.240 hours in 3 months though? That is respectable. Context is fucking simple and always needs to be applied to numbers discussion to begin with, so how about a reason watch hours is bad that isn't just retarded?
>>58782929Making half-assed excuses for your male collab doesn't undo it. Why can't she just admit she was willing to undermine her morals for a bonus on her paycheck?
>>58782722She admitted that her Kobo voice is not real voice lol
nobody is following the Merryweather group? did they flop that hard?
>>58782970this is ESL bait anons dont fall for it
>>58782851The DMC one was good. The others were meh
>>58782919
>>58782911Marine plus Suisei plus Towa plus Mori, is it possible?
>>58782919you are not her friend, nor should you be
>>58782521wtf is this shit people were shitposting about ctw being updated to include sana and>ISRAELbut like its not even part of the stream? it shows this when you hover over this like a preview. what kind of weirdo runs this shit.
There was a weird calm period between like 2 AM EDT and 3 AM EDT before the shitposting returned, but it didn't perfectly last, how weird
>>58782313>bae the leaderwell so much for that
What if Mumei gets the holotori dance in her stream?
Was there a mass ban or something? Played ER for a a couple hrs after Kronii and now the threads much slower, with fewer retards.
>>58782998I liked all of them except the valley girl one.
>>58782970Cope Kronies. Reminder views can be botted, unlike SCs.
>>58783040The Saplings committed mass suicide.
>>58782534MOST INFLUENTIAL
>>58782749NIJISEETHE
>>58783010If they ever get a national tour. Maybe Mori could get one from UMG, i don't know.
>>58783040>mass banMeido was going so hard that schizophrenics were unironically posting essays about how unfair it wasThey waited until they thought the coast was clear and have been coming back through evading, though
Since her debut, Ririka has mogged literally every one in streaming hours. And I love Koyori btw, so I win with this new cute genius.
>>58782745I like it more after going back and watching it than I did watching it Live. Which is pretty different from how I usually approach these things, but I'm definitely aware I'm letting a bit of my nostalgia goggles tint things. Just reminds me of channel surfing through the channels a lot.
Shiori will never be an idol.She will never be popular.She will never be able to sing well.She will never be able to dance wellShe will never inspire people.She already decided she was going to spite her followers day 1 by forcing people to respect her collabs (or lack of collab) choicesAnd it's because of all this the "hot goth gf" got dunked on by the rest of Advent. Shiori can lie and love bomb all she wants but she'll never be anything more than the runt of Advent and HoloEN as a whole.
>>58782745Some people don't like it for the same reasons they don't like the sankisei concert because they expected a 3d showcase to be mostly songs and not skits
>>58782978NTA but hours watched is the worst metric by far>streamer 1: 40 hours @ 10,000 CCV>streamer 2: 101 hours @ 4,000 CCVHours watched requires you to say streamer 2 is stronger despite being a shitter who can’t make cripple tally
>>58782929Has there even been a Holo who took a break because their "fans" started shitting on them for something like this? Closest that comes to mind is Towa but Cover was the one who did the suspension due to Towa lying about it staff being in her room.
>>58782978>Context is fucking simple True. Being the leader in hours streamed is remarkable and reflected in the “hours streamed” table. Being the leader in average CCV is remarkable and reflected in the average CCV table. Mixing both by multiplying them is not really that remarkable and depends on context>was it the number of hours? Was it the live audience?which is a step down from the other two alternatives presented
>>58782521Most of them have a 5k and below average…
https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1703652742370304054Lots of holo numberfagging on twitter recently
>>58782722I will keep this in mind next time I see someone named Kobo. I will call her a whore and explain how she is a failure compare to her genmate, Kaela
>>58782919She doesn't ghost her fans, and she isn't anywhere close to that point like Ina or Kronii are. She cares about her fans deeply, she's one of the more closely linked EN members. She's gone over the fact that both her and us benefit each other. Hell, that exact point is what caused all of the "I'm not your friend" shitposting, from schizos everywhere not understanding what she actually fucking meant. I guess she was right when she said that (You) weren't her friend, wasn't she?
>>58783084Oh I like this new Fauna shitpost. I like it a lot.Keep it up
>>58783075>they hired ANOTHER kawaii positive genius gamer girl with long streaming hoursWhoever is doing this at Cover, I need to buy them a drink
>>58782978240 hours in 3 months you mean ironmouse?it's not that impressive it's 30 work days that's like working part time for 3 months
>>58782766NIJISEETHE
>>58782983Were there any fresh debuts? I thought they were all just pre-existing chubas bought under his brand.
>>58783090Retard, streaming literally has a time attatched to it so any metric that ignores it is fucking false.In your example, it literally is not clear who is the better or more popular.
>>587827445k shitter
>>58783084Shiori is already more idol like than Fauna. Shame about her inability to sing.
>>58783133Don't reply to me mongaloid, what's her latest numbers
>>58783112>seriously responding to faunaschizo
Can someone tell me when Fauna is streaming next please
>>58782973VSBOT
>>58782881yeah man.
>>58783127No you fucking retard its right fucking there in the image.
>>58783154I'm really fucking bored and don't feel like jacking off.
>>58782911Is this her budoukan concert?
>someone give this woman a million subs dammit
I bet no one here can read this
>>58782973I'm sorry but absolutely nobody can make that make sense.
>>58783150NIJISEETHE
>hours watchedIs this a new cope metric by Pebblekeks, Pemalose and Joshitter?
>>58783179man im not reading that shit he said 240
>>58783197it says sparkling kawaii idol i think
>>58783140CCV is not a measure of popularity. Hours streamed likewise. Popularity is something almost entirely subjective and outside the realm of numbers
>>58783126Cover's scouting/hiring team has always been at least solid, more often then not great. They could have done better with Sana and La+, ngl.
>>58783207Well big hint genius he called it respectable. Obviously not talking about Ironmouse.
>>58783090The fact you said "cripple tally" means you're only thinking by /#/ standards, which is fine. We're all here to meme and watch the horse races. I almost came when Fauna had a chance at global gold.Thinking /#/ statistics is the same as YT growth is pretty stupid, though.
Jwu>Kronii beat Fauna even though she had no guests and no big raids like FaunaFucking kekSapling status?
>>58783112thats all well and good but she is still not your friend
>>58783147>Shiori is already more idol like than FaunaTrue. Being an oblivious cuck is part of the idolfag experience after all.
oh no no no no saplingbros
>>58783206Unironic newfag
>>58783236NIJISEETHE
>>58783040>>58774802>>58776518>>58777426
>>58783186Not sure. it just says national tour 2023. Got it from here.https://twitter.com/ado_staff/status/1703671244225429919
http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/243029あっこりゃああああああ
>>58783218No it's not. Back to your shit example, that 4k CCV for 100 hours? Impressive. 100 fucking hours of 4k viewers.
>>58783228"hours watched" isn't worth anything for YT growth either, not the way that you think it is
>Y-yeah Council d-didn't do as w-well as expected...
>>58783236But of course. My mother, wife and the light of my life should be more than just my friend.
>>58783112>from schizos everywhere not understanding what she actually fucking meantWhat fucking cope is this? She said what she fucking said. She elaborated and said you shouldn't be her friend because she's a nobody and that non streamers are better. Literally not idol like at all. How are you coping this fucking bad? She does not want you. She does not care about you.
>>58783203Don't worry another valorant collab with blue homo will save her numbers
>>58782848I think Kiara herself also briefly mentioned Gura’s approach is unconventional, I do enjoy how she cemented her memorable moments into tv ads, especially most of them are just Gura doing Gura things unprompted on stream
It's kinda funny after ame and kronii said "If you don't like it, don't watch me", their fans actually left to watch others..
>>58783110why do you play VRChat?
>>58783040Who is suppose to come here? Saplings are gone, Mumei doesn’t stream, Irys doesn’t stream, and Gura doesn’t stream!! So much for cgdct lol, should be cgdnt instead!Cute GirlsDoingNoThingsMaybe change the cute part too!
>>58783266AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NIJIBROS DON'T LOOK
>>58783266HOLOLIVE LITERALLY DID THE SAME WITH THE AMAZIN TSHIRTSWHAT IS THIS DOUBLE STANDARD
>>58783204Mods just ban anyone who talks, so the people who are left don't talk.
>>58783270Nowhere near as impressive as gathering 10x the amount of people with only 4/10ths as much time to gather them, which is why those metrics are best kept separate
>>58783286>SeethingWatch streams
>>58783308Those aren't default poses no
>nerissa hates ugly bastards>biboo mori and wawa all calling them cute and friend shapeddoes nerissa not realize that the entirety of the hololive audience is ugly bastards
>>58782977She's implied she was pressured into it, there's no reason to lead off a tense conversation about the collab with "the company asked me to do this sponsorship" unless she wanted to imply the company was at fault.She also talked about it later as wellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVvnBVziMqo&t=9702s>Found about this maybe 3 or 4 days before it was announced to the public>At least, for me it was decided pretty last minuteShe doesn't say "I decided", she says "for me it was decided". The "at least for me" also implies this wasn't the case for other holomems in the collab, and that they either struggled to find people to join or someone dropped out last second.>b-but they can just refuse!And management can choose to delay or ignore her outfit requests and music requests even further, it's quid pro quo.
>>58783286And the schizos STILL don't seem to understand it, it seems. How sad. Truly an embarassment.
>>58783236Chat is her friend, you aren't.
Floplive
>>58783230Fauna has a low ceilingKronii is funny
>>58782880Its so mind boggling to see the Streaming hours of Hololive girls.... they barely pass 200 hours except Koyori and are in Top 10...Just imagine if they put out the same hours as the other, it will be over for all streamers
>>58783123>>/vt/?task=search2&search_filename=1693675011823175.png>>/vt/image/RPsql4OtECLP0Ed8bgz0jwoh wow Shioribros truly are the best posters in this entire board
>>58783126>Dreams about Biboo+Kaela streams fulfilled>Dream about Biboo+Ririka stream beginsThey even have a more sweaty gamer girl synergy between them than her and Kaela. I wanna see some try hard matches of Smash with Beebs in the future.
>>58783323>entiretystop projecting sister
>>58782842It was just a weee bit too long. Shorter by about a minute or two and it would've been just right.
>>58783316How is it best kept seperate when with just watch hours and stream length, we revealed so much information?
>>58783303
>>58783323maybe you are
>>58783140The better and clear winner is the one making bank with Vod views too
>>58783090Can you even say streamer 1 is more popular? Maybe she'll thin out her median if she streamed more?Context matters and so far I think hours watched just consider the most possible context, at least compared to other flawed metrics like maximum CCV or median.
>>58783308price standard, not double standard
>>58783266I thought that shit was con merch, not on the official store>i was wrongthats so fucking GRIM
>>58783348its true tho innit
>>58782745Gura has the talent of en first army but does far less than Ayame nowadays.JP branch doesn't need Ayame at all. But EN branch's success heavily relies on Gura. Especially during the 10 ENs era.And yet she has ghosted into oblivion for years. Gura's contribution to EN was astronomical so you can't even say she owes EN anything even if she ghosts for the rest of her career. But Gura claimed she loves her fans and wanted to stream more when Advent debuted. Yea then back to ghosting. Still, Gura has not really done any other controversial things like pink, orange, deep blue or yellow woman. Also omega's reign was really shitty you could give some leeway to pre advent Gura.I could genuinely understand if an ENfag is neutral towards Gura or not her fan. I want her to save EN and make no more empty promises. That's my only complaints for her
>>58783228hours watched does nothing for growthis a stupid metric that twitch niggers stupidly set for themselves.>streaming for long = hard workand is this stupid ass metric that made them need react content JUST to not be called lazy there.
https://twitter.com/kobokanaeru/status/1703668739097665726?What did you do?
>>58783336Now show the recent NijiEN BG3 collab numbers.
>>58783160I think her schedule said that she's streaming right after Gura.
>>58782880So how many watch hours is this chart cutting off from the youtube streamers this time?
All this attention is making me shy
>>58783355Real reason watch hours isn't liked by some is literally just because of Gura
>>58783359BASED Biboo is the only true CGDCT
>>58783336Lol
>>58783369You can think thatBut you're not right
>>58783377>orangeBut we like Kiara now.
>>58783230>>58783337She also beat IRyS despite not singing a lot and not having 1st army JP guests and she beat Elira despite not having JP shilling at allShe's just that powerful
http://poal.me/krh3pkhttp://poal.me/krh3pkhttp://poal.me/krh3pk
>>58782757> not posting the soundpost version
>>58783398final fantasy whore
>>58783328I also find it interesting that they ask holos multiple times, including doing an entire presentation for Nene. Management was extremely desperate.
>>58783189Very soon man, the whole company will be celebrating with her
So let me get this straightFauna lost to Kronii even though she had>3 raids, including a 10K Minecraft one>several guests, including Gura>Korone shilling on streamNow, lets talk about how this happened
>>58783355>watch hours and stream lengthCCVand stream lenght revealed that info.watch hours is a meme that mix both togheter.to disenr ANY meaningful information you need them separated.
>>58783335Did you not listen to her dipshit ? "We as fauna and saplings are not friends, and we should not be friends"Her exact words not mine
So the Voms thread merged with the Henya thread and they even say in the top list that she was formally Pikamee, /mans/ still spams Vesper and Magni non stop like they never left, a Sana thread gets a decent amount of traction even though most of her career was her taking a break. Does the Niji threads talk about the people that leave the company or do they just act like they never existed?
>>58783437how many times will you keep banevading?
>>58783270I see where you're coming from but you cannot convince me Watame is anywhere close to being as popular as Marine let alone more than her just because she has more hours watched. Marine streams like thrice a month for a couple of hours and gets +40k viewers while Watame is constantly orbiting around +12k. The fact hours watched needs to be broken down to actually reveal the important info makes it misleading.
>>58783415dont lie on the internet anons, we saw the connect the world crowd
>>58783446>still trying to make this """yab""" a thingYou lost phasekek, time to bite the bullet
>>58783422If we accept Fauna and Mumei on GCDCT, we accept Biboo
>>58783189>caring about Koyosanji
>>58783473Unrepresentative of the true kings of the fandom (us EDT kings)
>>58782298It's intentional, ReGloss is not meant to be Hololive JP. Smokers, schizos, literal kids and fishing village gakis normally wouldn't get hired in Holo, hence the need for a separate branch.
>>58783440? Anon it's all the same calculation. You can get CCV from watch hours/stream length.You can get stream length from watch hours/ccvYou can get watch hours from CCVxWatch hoursThe only reason to not like the information would be if you dislike what is shown from it.
>>58783480>we
>>58783278KEK
>>58783459voms cant survive wihtout pika/henyasana thread is just a meme/mans/ will alwasy be in eternal denial.
>>58783480Of course Mumei, Fauna and Biboo are CGDCT
Vtuber legend btw
>>58783437I have no idea but I had a good laugh at saplings
>>58783493That's just straight up untrue
>>58783480If that's the line people are drawing, then no one on CGDCT should be there
https://youtu.be/yfyIMDrxoXs
>>58783270“Impressive” is not a measure of popularity as well and it is equally subjective. Also, not every person responding to you is the same, this is an anonymous forum without any permanent identity, don’t mistake every disembodied voice inside your head for the same person. Each metric measures exactly what it says. Average CCV measures love viewership and can be easily compared. Hours streamed measures endurance and can be easily compared. “Hours watched” as a product of both measures either live viewership, hours streamed or both and can’t be easily compared without context, making it a poor metric to rank anything
>>58783491EDT bro herecan confirm my mom says I'm handsome
>>58783492How did this group of mismatches manage to have better chemistry than most gens?
>>58783525Retard learn basic math
>>58783518I have no idea who this is
>>58783532It's the fucking Lies of P game
>>58783493>You can get watch hours from CCVxWatch hours
>>58783446Sounds like a (you) problem, (you) will never be her friend the second you try and pull out of the collective. Saplings are loved as a whole and that is exactly how it should remain for any fan/creator.
>>58783473Well I’m a girl, so even if Im ugly I can’t be an ugly bastard
>>58783437SEA niggers show up only at big events, just like Nijisanji
>>58783529
>>58782973So assuming they are just botting as this looks, what's the end goal. Like is this even helping them in the long run? Twitch got in a lot of shit a while back for inflating the numbers to advertisers, feels like this would bite them pretty quickly.Are they going to bot VSPOen to when they finally debut, I'm sure that will end well
>>58783529i kneel
>>58783541At absolute BEST you could get an average from there, while obliterating literally all of the detail that makes a statistic worthwhile in the first place
>>58783562you have a cock and balls you are not a girl
>>58783459Nobody leaves the company anon, iluna has always been a 5 man gen
>>58783538>can’t be easily compared without contextEvery other metric requires the exact same context.You just don't like how streamers that don't stream are less represented.
All Kronii has are her tits and voice. That's always been the case and why Kronii is shit
>>58783493This is tautology. If you define hours streamed (public metric) * average CCV (public metric) = hours watched (computed number), by definition you get the other two numbers back. The problem with hours watched is that it’s a computed number that requires the context of its components… making it a useless number
>>58783552She already said at the end of BG3 that it was Lies of P. I dunno why she didn't say it again in that pin. especially because literally no one watched BG3 kek
>>58783559Okay thats great I am glad you have come to terms that saplings and fauna are not friends and should never be friends
>>58783218>Popularity is something almost entirely subjective and outside the realm of numbersThere is a numerical metric for popularity, although I think mindchair is a better word for it. That metric is subs. Yea yea I know it's not very accurate and has issues but it's the best approximation there is and that's why people (including companies and sponsors) use it.
>>58783559Except she literal fucking said she doesn't see saplings as friends faggot not even as a collective
>>58783616>>>/vt/pcg
>>58783600Shhhh don't cry now sapling
>>58783144Consider the following.
>>58783620>Subs are a good metric>Watch hours is badChumbuds...
>>58783189I will unsub at 995k
>>58783266Missing only the $40 tag.
It's so funny that these shitposts just don't happen on hours where holoENs are streaming
>>58783636
I think Bae will do better than FaunaMumei will destroy all of them of course
>>58783654They get deleted quickly and run off to global to cry about how evil saplings are
>>58783519>irys>mumei>faunaPfffft
Does this thread frequently get a lot of newfags? or is it the mentally ill schizos arguing about the same thing over and over again?
>>58782298Yeah for all intents and purposes shes a Niji and is designed to appeal in that fashion, the only thing stopping her from being one is that she actually gets numbers
>>58783637Marine is more popular than iron mouse.
>>58783680stop ban evading
>>58783675where they then get deleted quickly for shitposting about other threads and run away yet again to some offsite place or some shitthen they come back here to try againcircle of life
>>58783308Idk ask the Nijifan, it's them who have a problem with it
>>58783684>or is it the mentally ill schizos arguing about the same thing over and over again?ding ding ding
>>58783680My wives
>>58783654You expect them to shitpost at 5-11am on a weekday? Not that they have jobs but they're probably still sleeping.
>>58783684This is the newfag central of the board since global is too cult like and the rest of the threads on the catalog tend to be kept up by one or two posters with an axe to grind
>>58783687Sure because you can look at the hours streamed and see in half a second that her numbers aren't worth looking at.How is this so hard to grasp, is it because your oshi only streams 1 hour a week?
>>58783687>no mention of ironmouse anywhereHoly rent free
>>58783724Marine is more popular than Pekora.
>CCVBotted>Hours watchedSleep manipulated>membershipGifts pumped>SCNijisis's metric>SubsDeadsub>MerchsCucked by Shipping >Twitter likes and retweetTwittertroons are not real fansWhat else?
>>58783684He just talks to himself when no one bites to give the illusion of people biting
>>58783740wrong
>>58783716>implying people don't go to global when we can all see the ppm stats whenever anything slightly relevant happenscome on my guy, if you got an agenda at least just lay it on the table
>>58783724Only twitchfags pretend hours watched is relevant. It’s an educated guess
>>58783684Newfags come here looking for drama/bait to repost to the catalog/off-site since they won't get it in Global.
>>58783724i mean watchhours is something only twitch kids are obsesed about.Even when holos are in there is not becasue their huge hours but becasue their huge ccv.
By the standards of this thread, this individual with lower subs, lower ccv, and lower views, is less well known than Gawr Gura. I'll grant that she's probably less well liked than Gura though.
>>58783762only cumbuds seethe about watch hours
>>58782766Homo won as evidenced by Kronii triumph over CGDCT icons.
>>58783459
>>58783781Manshallah may that be true
>>58783781Who the fuck even this is bitch?
>>58783637Watched hours doesn’t even include vod views either. I get it, it’s a twitch stat and twitch streamers don’t give to shits about it since twitch doesn’t pay them shit. You have twitch people literally making vod channels to make money lmao
>>58783781>with lower subs, lower ccv, and lower views, is less well known than Gawr Gurain youtube? yes abosultelynot sure what you are trying to prove.
>>58783753How? Pekora is strong amongst stream watchers, one of my favorite to watch. But Marine is more popular.
>>58783781don't forget lower watch hours so she's less popular than ironmouse
>>58783814It doesn't prevent you from looking at VoD views you retard
>>58783781>/vt/ niggers being terrible at comparisons/analogies part 7473896412
>>58783781I do not remember who this is
>>58783781>he has to bring non-vtubers in a vtuber discussion for his argumentyou have already lost
>>58783598Then just use the hours streamed metric that's an infinitely better and valuable statistic if you care about hours streamed, but you don't care about statistics you only care about a certain streamer that only appears on watch hours.
>>58783598I don’t “like” or dislike either metric, they’re all interesting but “hours watched” in particular doesn’t create a directly comparable and sortable list. For the record, I consider “average CCV” to have the same problem, a streamer with a 20k average on 2 streams in a period of time is not really comparable to one with 45 streams in the same period. The solution to that is not to smash both variables by multiplying them, it would suffice to create “weight classes”>average CCV, daily streamers (22+ streams on 30 days)>average CCV, regular streamers (13+ streams on 30 days)>average CCV, occasional streamers (5+ streams on 30 days)That is more or less what that monthly table in this thread already do, except only with the 5 per month cutting point
Fauna 50kKronii 58kMumei 60kBae 45k
>>58783781I had to Google her name so this might not be the own you think it is
>>58783796Kronii is certified CGDCT nowt. CGDCT master
>>58783828Cope, Pekora is more popular.>>58783864What are you talking about, what is preventing me from looking at hours streamed whether I look at CCV or stream hours at the same time?
>>58783753He really isn't, especially now.
>>58783781She's worth 3.7B yen. How much is Gura worth?
>>58783743>personal feefees
>kronii beat saplings in numbers>cucklings come out of the woodwork to ruin /#/sclassic
>>58783896at least 4 trillion metric tons of cum
>>58783031There's no way bae beats anyoneHistorically she's always been the lowest by a gigantic margin for these events
>>58783873Fauna 50kKronii 58kMumei 45kBae 40k
>>58783873Bae will get close to 60K because she's well known for her 3D moves
>>58783781I wonder how Gura's nendo, figurine, and statuette sales compare to figurine sales of Captain Marvel
>>58783697Honestly if these are all coming from the same region, just range-banning the fuckers would minimize the amount of shit the board gets>but you can get around that!The point is to minimize the amount of garbage, and if it's all coming from one locale, targeting just an area is enough instead of completely gutting a country.
>>58782946AH AH AH AH AH AH
>>58783680>muh sound engineer/rigger rrats
Does Bae have a chance of breaking 50k?All of Councilrys breaking 50k would be kino
I miss Fauna
>>58783937Yeah, but you know how hiromoot is, gotta get that adrev
>Chumbuds seething about watch hours>If she streamed all the time they would be shoving it in our faces
>>58783914So Gura is the wealthiest person in the world...
>>58783887Marine has higher mindchair than Pekora, Pekora is a bigger daily streamer
>>58783947its possible but i doubt it, she'll probably be in the 40ks, mumei will probably perform around the same level as kronii
If Bae beats Fauna it'll be the ultimate humiliation
>>58783303Alright, let's try to continue the discussion about EN Box formation we had in EU hours a few days ago.Is there any Advent that shows signs of being able to create and run improvised story arcs for EN?We did say how the EN branch having more collab options was leading them to a fractured audience - Biboo going to Kaela and Fuwamoco going to JP to form groups. JP holos also have outside groups - Tokomachi, Kamioka radio and several other groups come to mind. But in essence, the JP branch tends to stick to their own for the most part.Is this possible for EN with the amount of talents they have now? Or will it take another generation or two to have enough numbers for an EN-centric box?Is an EN-centric box even viable under the current circumstances?
>>58783947Brats will bot her over the 50k mark so don’t worry about it
>>58783974Cope, Pekora has more mindshare and more viewership.And she always will because Marines throat can't handle it.
>>58783937I know you're new around these parts but 4chan is not the kind of place where you ban regions for saying what you don't like
>>58783935Considering all the captain marvel figures I see in the bargain bin, probably a lot better. As far as product made to product sold ratio at least.
>>58783654How would you know this when holoEN never streams?
>>58783973The Cover new studio was like 2.7B. If you had to argue, Gura brand should be worth more than that.
>>58783973Well, most of that cum ends rather shamefully. On towels or in sinks...
>>58784000>already coping
>>58783687But is Marine a streamer? No. Ironmouse is the better streamer
>>58784010It totally is
How have some of these girls not passed the branch channel yet?They're so fucked
>>58783781I've bust so many nuts to this bitch
>>58783947rules dont apply for 3d showcases
>>58784020It's been two months it's time to move on
>>58784010Lol, lmao
>>58783991For a minecraft story arc the hope has to lie with Biboo (though I’m not confident). Maybe her project starting stream will give some indication as to the likelihood of a reinvigorated EN server tho
>>58782911
>>58783991No because Shiori’s and Bijou are fucking deadbeats, Nerissa is a KFP and FuwaMoco don’t even care about En vtubers.
>>58782494FWMC has long hours of c part and suparead. And many 5k game streams too. But in the end they even things out with morning show, advent collab and karaoke.Can you imagine if FWMC has numberfagging mentality?By the way what brought down Biboo's numbers?
>>58783781literallyfuckingwho?
>>58784044Ririka...I thought you were going to overtake Ao
>>58784010Hory Sheet.
>Mom still hasn't woken up for workJesus christ im going to have to put up with this cunt for an entire day, worse than puttting up with you lot should have went to sleep
>>58784063Biboo called herself a tako, she never said she's a deadbeatJust because she used a Mori sprite for the sans (which makes sense), doesn't mean she's a deadbeat
>>58783991>create and run improvised story arcs for EN?Nerissa's Terraria server is not nothing.Biboo has a good shot at it in Minecraft.Right now, FWMC and Shiori are more "followers" than they are "narrative weavers." It'll either be Nerissa or Biboo that lead that charge.
>>58782072post kiara and nerissa too you fucking fag, nerissa especially is useful to compare to the rest of adventso tired of you posting bad data instead of stuff that can be linked back to in the future for reference
>>58784039Ironmouse is great at streaming dead air, true.
>>58784116Biboo is a sapling.
>>58784063Incredible how many things you can get wrong at once
>>58784116Anon, Biboo is literally "anyone who's nice to me is my oshi". Fauna, Mori, Ina, whoever fucking talked to her. And despite that she has literally repeatedly said Let Me Stay Here is her favorite song throughout ALL of Hololive.
>>58783947there is a chance considering her jp audience is probably second behind irys
>>58784063>>58784116>>58784133Biboo is an unironic DD
>>58784129mumei YAMEROOOOOOOOO
>>58783266> どっかのブランドのデザインパクらないだけマシやろ "At least it's better than plagiarizing the design of some other brand"holy kek they'll never forget
hookeks are next
>>58784129& IRyS...
>>58784129Where's IRyS?
>>58784097Her shadowban is so fucking unreal. Live tab list Lui and Risu and not her despite she's got the highest CCV. Neal really hates genius gyaru.
NIJISEETHE
>[deleted]schizos still getting hunted down
>>58783230Coping hard. The CGDCT faction is ashamed of her performance.
>>58784117>Nerissa's Terraria server is not nothing.With my friends! killed the first Terraria attempt and appears to have already killed this one in the cradle too for non-Advent
>>58784129>missing IRySmemes reflect reality
>muh stats this, muh numbers that Only numbers that matter to me is how many boners per hour a Vtuber can give me. Kanatan wins that in a landslide so she is the #1 sexiest vtuber in existence
>>58784187Mumei 60-65k
>>58784210What about IRyS? Forgotten even in shitposts...
>>58782911>>58783940>>58782946>NijiMilord alone mogged both.
>>58784210
>>58783230raids ruin stream growth and fucks with algorithm. its already been proven.
>>58784205Nijimeido just woke up
>>58784187Mumei won't even beat Fauna and she'll get the worst SC out of everyone so it's already over.
>>58784196This is my top live row.
>>58784150to be fair Shibayan with Fauna voice is a match made in heavern
>>58784167Japanese antis on a another level
>>58784225>boners per hourgarbage metric, a girl like Kanatan has absurd debuffs in that measurement because she's only giving me a single boner that lasts an entire hour
Thread smells like Jollibee
>>58784245>le retard de vox akuma
>>58784261yeah man, that damn nijimeido, deleting all those evil... Holoantis.
>>58784277NIJISEETHE
>>58784130Dead airs more entertaining than whoring yourself out like marine
>>58784235>sapling shitting on IRyS in their attempt to deflect from Fauna’s numbersOk I hate saplings now, fuck off faggots
>>58783266yuuuuge margins on these kek
>>58784271Sure but like, there are a lot of good songs within Hololive. A LOT. So that's high fucking praise.
>>58784150Based truth teller. Im sure she loves everyone, but Fauna is clearly special
>>58784291>>58782388>holoanti
>>58784245
>>58784225kanata, don't you have an atahuta doujin to get pregnant in or something
>>58784225Marine ruined Kanata for me. Knowing that behind the cute and chaste girl is probably a messy, mannerless stinky woman is a turn off desu.
>>58784259>proven
>>58783542misfits together stronkthere's a reason holos that lived through the chinkout have a much closer bond with each other
>>58784300Funny considering Ironlung is Connor’s whore
>>58784315almost like the holoanti is trying to throw cover on their actions, wow
>>58784277You would know what that smells like huh?
>>58784302Saplings are the second biggest defenders of IRyS behind Irystocrats
i think mumei is cute and i have faith she'll put kronii in her place to avenge fauna
It dropped to number 3. I guess most of the people planning to get it have already ordered.
>>58784302Sub 6k shitter isn’t even apart of council and could never reach fauna’s average ccv
>>58784264Kanata was beaten by Device.Device is unexpectedly strong.
>>58783542>MUH CHEMISTRY
>>58783781she's an irl celebrity, not an internet one.it's like comparing a baseball game to a cricket game.
>>58784273>he thinks other Vtubers even get me to pop a chubSee your mistake was thinking anyone else gave me a boner while watching their streams
>>58784235IRyS is temporarily suspended due to homo collabs.
>>58784304>250 yen + niji logo = 3600 yen1500% price increase Holy shit
>>58783781
>>58784353>isn’t even apart of councila devastating ESL mistake
>>58784363>One is popular in meme countries>One is popular worldwideAmericabro...
Mumei was teasing about her 3D in her watchalong, she said that she didn't make her own choreography and only moves like she was told to, and it was so chuuniidk what to take from this but I feel like she's going to sing alot
>>58784307I mean my favorite Holo song of all time is Asuiro Clearsky but my favorite Holos are Luna, Nene, and now Hajime. Sometimes favorite song and favorite holos don't really correlate with each other.
>>58784396>mumei jp singingits over, sub 40k
>>58783336LMFAOOO
>>58784150> Gura> to Fauna> to Bijouthe torch will pass on...
>>58784245That will never cease to be funny, specially coming in an era TW bros were putting Holo girls in those huge articulated buses and Ina audience was putting her on Times Square screens. It feels like a thousand years ago but one of the funniest things to have been witnessed by this thread was that Vox sister doing a fundraiser among his fanbase for a similar project >only to take the money and use it all on superchats in her own name so she would get more of his attention than the rest In hindsight the three most entertaining eras of this thread were>Kuzuha golden era, which culminated in the “great Halloween Vampire massacre”>Salome first few weeks>Vox sagaThe raspberry tally nowadays only captures a fraction of the fun of those days, today Hololive is winning so much I’m ashamed to admit I’m a little bit tired of winning
>>58784396She so adorable, no wonder she's so beloved
>>58784358Well, Kanata was 3 minutes into the stream, and Ririka was ending was right at the turn of the hour.
>>58784381cope and seethe >>58782929
>>58784416It still hasn't set in for me fully that we're never getting another Golden Age of Vox Tweets again
>>58784348Who is kronii biggest defender
>>58784381But IRyS didn't talk to homos in the shooting thing. IRyS also made a clear stance about not collabing with homos.Furthermore we like ReGloss here so IRyS is totally fine by all standards.
>>58784448believe it or not, Zetalings
>>58784315yes, holoanti. check the timestamps for these deleted posts. hint: they're all the same>>58782388>>58782427>>58782620 >>58782821>>58782854>>58783247>>58783422>>58783501 >>58783563>>58783842>>58783906looks like he alternates between shitting on holos and shitting on nijisanji. in other words, a blatant shitposterit's mostly this guy who got banned, and then the saplingschizo got banned at another timestamp, and a few one-offs
>>58784416This is still the best times I've ever had on this board
>>58784396the takeaway is that she's with me cuddling rn
>>58784394Kys iryscuck
>>58783991Needs one more gen for a stable En-centric box to form in my opinion. If everyone was active, not sick, and willing to jump into whatever was going on they could probably pull it off with the current members, but I don't see it happening. Hopefully we will start to see pockets of it after the showcases though
>>587844363 mins mark 9k is kinda highFuck nips holiday
>>58784469It’s a phase kek then
>>58784416This victory is achieved on the blood and corpse of every seething nigger out there even when killed by 62 holos they still seethe in their grave, the day of singularity will come when a holo shines so bright even the sun will be blinded by it's radiance.
>>58784469I only made >>58782388 so that's evidently not true
>>58784496they only need to make new ARK server for EN
>>58784416not one, not twice, but three timesshe is the TRUE Vampire chuuba
>>58784469Phasecuck maybe?
Marine gold today
i thought fwmc was supposed to be the gura killer?
>Sayu was on dinner with Kson. Woah, Kson still love being saviorfag.
How many people will suffer brain damage from this stream?
>>58784506Always has been. Ever since Fauna refused to Pippa any attention, they've been out to shit on her and the other Holo girls.
>>58784542I'm going to gura kill my fist to your face
>>58784416Mel vs Kuzuha was the most kino event we ever had. The cheering was wild
>>58784483He helped you with your English is this how you repay him lol
>>58784302>IRyStocrat deflecting to Fauna to deflect from Kronii mogging them bothDon't hide, faggots. Both saplings and IRyStocrats deserve it, you don't get to hide and point fingers at the other. I know you in particular are one of the worst posters in this thread who openly hates on Kronii, Bae, and Mori.
Looks like being parasocial with your fanbase instead of pushing them off by telling we will never be friends pays off.
>>58784416>today Hololive is winning so muchAnd the price is Holo vs Holo, is it worth it?
> First stickers for Ayame> Now for Kanatamochimiko is living the high life
>>58784547except she didnt save miguelshe used her in hopes of stealing holo spotlight
>>58784575>who openly hates on Kronii, Bae, and Mori.Holy based
>>58784584Yeah because that's a thing that only happens when hololive wins
>>58784524EN can't play children block game MicraSo let's play arc????
>>58783391For that quarter, surprisingly little. Unculled Pekora got ~8.57 million. Not like q1 were they removed roughly 1 million.
>>58784547COME ON VSHOJO HIRE SAYUYOU KNOW YOU WANT TO
Irys corrected Kronii by letting Kronii rawdog her during the Japan trip. So I ask you this question, do you all want Ame to be corrected again?
I never noticed this, but so much of NijiEN has more twitter followers than YT subs. Members that do:>LazulightFinana & Elira>ObsidyaRosemi & Petra>EthryiaReimu & Nina>LuxiemAll but Vox>All Noctyx>All of Iluna>All of Xsoleil (even Zaion)>All of KrisisThis leaves five members that have higher YT sub counts than twitter follower counts.>Pomu>Selen>Millie>Enna>VoxHow the fuck did this shit happen?
>>58784277
>>58784569Sounds kino. Context gibe me
>>58784614>Micrayou will never be japanese
>>58784575>KroniiNo, I only openly hate on Bae and Mori faggot
>>58784592Kson used Rushia for spotlight yes. But kson must have given some support to Rushia.Also, if Hololive couldn't save a chuuba she's literally going to get LESS help from the outside.
>>58784536Marine is not as strong as kronii anon.
>>58784667Saying that in the number thread where half of the memes and lingo are imported directly from 5ch is kind of retarded.
>>58784667Kammon short words are better
Wished I knew brining earlier, my fried chickens tastes so much better than marinating it over night. It's so tender,
>>58784129Shiori....
>>58784683>But kson must have given some support to Rushia.What support?
>>58784669Three of them ARE THE SAME
>>58784699You lost anon? The sucking jp cock board is two blocks down
>>58784129Now post reflop
>>58784167
I want to suck Towas cock so badly bros
>>58784669>a timeRyS faghmmmmm I guess it's better than BaeRyS but still, questionable taste
>>58784757Poor EOP, you don't even know...
>>58784656That's weird man, no doubt.I guess there must be significant numbers of sisters who use Twitter as the "main" site for their engagement with NijiEN, and YT is kinda peripheral to that. Kinda wild.
>>58784656>How the fuck did this shit happen?A permanently online audience plus nips from the nip fanbase following every niji on twitter (prodded by a favorable algo) but not actually watching or subscribing them on youtube.
>Aqua solo master challengeHow many golds can she get with this?
>>58784743I always liked Kronii and stopped watching her after the vesper shit. Now that vesper is gone I can’t watch her again. Anyways it was Mori’s fault>muh blaming moriWho the bitch that invited her to the spa after the yab?
>>58784777Most of the dislikes for Kronii come from hoomans and saplings. Irystocrats dislike Mori and bae for obvious reasons
>>58784763Some of it is valid cases but you take alot of the punch out of the collage by including ones where its a stretch like the guitar thing
>>58784741Some talk and some advice some companionship. Also the ticket to vshojo.You think Kson has not helped Rushia at all? Remember when Rushia was posting schizo tweets all day shortly after leaving Cover? Kson asked her to chill and invited her for a meal.
>>58784792The weirdest part of it to me are Enna and Vox being among the few that have more subs.
I like listening to Kanata because she's a virgin. Whenever I try to watch other girls I can't help but think about how the pretty little mouth they're using has been stuffed with cock at some point.
>>58784823>Most of the dislikes for Kronii come fromany answer other than the general audience is false
as time passes, i feel like nijifags are getting more frustrated at the fact that council is having their 3D showcase now, and already debuted their 3D models at Holofest while NijiEN hadn't. My question is, why does nijien management or anycolor keeps thinking that the solution would be to have more gens rather than making an effort to debut them in Japan instead?
>>58784575No we don't hate Kronii. We just hate the the gay Kronies in /hirys/ who want to touch our dick with their dick
>>58784786Yeah I know that this is the EOP board where claiming you know Japanese does not make other anons worship the ground you walk on
>>58784777TimeRyS actually has chemistry outside of discord messages. Also Kronii doesn’t scream all the time….
>>58782072Why do you guys remove Kiara and Nerissa from these?Also how tf is Shiori getting beaten by pretty much everyone already?
>>58784839The general audience turned out to watch Kronii more than Fauna, what does that say about Fauna?
>>58784847Because they don't care about what the fans say, as long as they still send superchats and still buy merch so their bottom line looks great they'll just stay the course
TimeRyS>Any Holo En duo(besides FuwaMoco ofc)
>>58784763wait Salome replied to that guy? what's she saying? TASUKETE N2CHADS
>>58784847They're chosing to reroll gacha rather than invest mats in trying to level up their existing roster
>>58784866>random fauna seetheIts the same audience
>>58784835You are a religious man with a lot of unconfirmed realities
>>58784656Nijisanji was paying for Twitter Japan curation before Elon took over
>>58784882
>>58784823>hoomansAs far as I can tell hoomans don't really care that much about Kronii, like or dislike. I remember kronies used to dislike Mumei and shittalked her frequently but maybe that was just an /inf/ thing and i haven't visited their general in a while now so idk if it's still the same
>>58784866
>>58784891You can hear Kanata's membrane in her voice, that isn't true of any other holo.
>>58784850The fact that that's were your mind goes says more about you than anything else. I'm just saying that complaining about using nip abbreviations is retarded when the thread borrows from 5ch on a regular basis.
>>58784835Sorry anon but none of that is true because Kanatan is my GF
>>58784683Kson feels like someone who is constantly trying to fight some wars or something. Feels like she has been in every internet fight in the vtuber sphere>against chink ( Taiwan incident )>against parasocial ( Rushia incident )>against unicorn>against corpo slavery>against Niji ( sayu )Is she on a crusade or something?
>>58784847> nijifagsThe only retards still getting mad about "lack of 3D" or whatever are the extreme sunk cost maniacs that have stuck around since the Lazulight days.THEY are the only ones who keep comparing NijiEN with HoloEN despite the two having completely different goals.Fans who started off with NijiEN are perfectly content for the talents to never even bother with 3D - for them regular streams are far more important than a 3D model that your oshi won't even use more than once.
>>58784882TimeVampire >>>>>TimeRySEven kronies said no one has made Kronii laughed so much
>>58784526KING vs Mel and KING vs MoonaWhich one do you think is better?
>>58784915Hey don't blame me, you were the retards who surrendered all control of this board back when it was created only to seethe that this place ended up not like what you wanted at all. Maybe if you guys were less retarded this wouldn't have happened
>>58784416>era TWI read that I thought there's an eraTW game but for holos and got me excited for a second
>>58784936She is the eternal saviourfag and lives to do this shit. In 3 years she'll have fought every online war there is to fight
>>58783800niji wouldn't pay, false flagging holochama. that's an unnecessary expense
>>58784908Newfagchama. Hoomans hated Kronii for using Mumei as a homoshield. Granted it's not as bad as it was since they've graduated.
Who
>>58784940Oh fuck right off, if that was the case you guys wouldn't have been celebrating back when the niji ar was announced
>>58784891I can't wait for AI-bros to develop a model that predicts virginity status with 99.9% accuracy based on a couple audio samples. Unicorn-chads, the future is bright!
>>58784941Kronii has never collabed with Mel though. Unless I just missed it.
>>58784526AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE OWATTA YO MAJIDE
For me it's IRyStocrats, hoomans, and chumbuds
>>58784272Damn, now I remembered the subhuman that can't differentiate between free and commissioned bgm.
>>58784967Furen...
>>58784940>perfectly content for the talents to never even bother with 3Dthat's a lie
>>58784272He deserved that shit HARD though. No one steals from my fatto catto
>>58784944Mel. Losing Kuzuha Day to one of Hololive’s runtiest runts was a blow to their ego they’ve never recovered from
>>58785006Furea?
>>58784967mumei mom
>>58784963Well yeah, now that the homos are dead and Kromei is also dead I don't think anyone cares that much anymore.
If every song MV had a sakuga dance animation scene, would it incline the vtuber music industry as a whole?
>>58785013>>58784272he neevr apologized tough. but that is luca whole thing.
>>58784536Kronii gold, unfortunately.
>>58785027That require every Vtuber to be able to come up with an interesting dance of their own, which is to say will never happened
>>58784981Based
>>58785027Needs catchy song with catchy dance. It would certainly help among a certain audience.
>>58785027No. Shitty tiktok dances can't replace good songs. There's a reason Phony is the biggest Holo song right now
>>58785026>Kromei is also deadWouldn't you like that
>>58784963she used her like twice.. it wasnt that bad...
>>58784806>Aqua starts streaming again>It’s all ApexGreat. Just amazing.
>>58785057Cover would do well to hire an in house choreographer to come up with things like this. In the long run, it would contribute to hololives growth.
>>58785036>rub the clique the wrong way>all of a sudden projects you've sunk a bunch of money into get cancelled last-second because of 'perms' (Pomu)>all of a sudden all your deadlines get shifted way forward, swamping you in work (Selen)>all of a sudden you're shut out of calls and group chats and every 'forgets' to @ you for collabs (Nina)>all of a sudden your manager is writing you up for every single little infraction (Zaion)>pander to the clique>management forgives outright harrassing and doxxing talents (Kyo)>management is super-lax with deadlines and covers for outright laziness (Enna)>management papers over your fuckups and forces other talents to apologize for them (Luca)
>>58784806isnt apex in a bad state in the jp mindshare
>>58784981I'm gonna wear faunarings like brass knuckles and punch this thing until it stops being so smug
>>58784951I tried playing eraTW but the only way I could get make any progress was by stopping time and raping the girls while they couldn't resist, which felt bad because I wanted to do things the "right" way for my favorite girl but had no idea how.
kanata gifted her line stamp to haachama
>>58785082Kromei is dead anon, Mumei and Fauna are secret lovers and have been all this year at least
Today's goldhttps://youtu.be/UR8E_mAfkus
>>58785081That's just Suisei, it's not like anyone else's covers of it did particularly well.
I don't like how IRyStocrats play both sides. They are a part of Cgdct fragment because of IRyS and still they like Kronii. This is unfair.
>>58785148Nope kronii gold today
>>58785110And people knew to vtubing wonder why the fuck NijiEN is such a mess.
>>58785137Mumei seemed to mesh better with IRyS in the off collab. Almost seemed like Fauna was getting her lover stolen right in front of her.
>>58785086>it wasnt that bad...Imagine redirecting your home flight just to see your friend because she missed out the Japan trip, bought some omiyage for her, only for her to use your goodwill as homoshield. I will never forgive Kronii for that.
>>58785081Citation needed
>>58785123she's going around gifting it to several other holos
>>58785082It's on life support, fed by scraps from the Japan arc.>>58785137Faumei is dead too. We're in the Mubae era now. Even MuRyS is stronger these days.
>>58785015Also, some anons might not remember, but his Vampire cover ALSO lost the 1M race to both [Q] and Reflect that day as well
>>58785027>If every song MV had a sakuga dance animation scene, would it incline the vtuber music industry as a whole?Yes! >INCLINE YOUR CHANNEL WITH THIS ONE SUREFIRE TRICK>NUMBERFAG SCIENTISTS HATE HER!>YOU WON'T BELIEVE HOW THIS PIRATE COSPLAYER INCLINED HER CHANNEL!People misunderstand Marine incline to only the high budget well choreographed MV but there is a whole lot more involved including luck and good timing
>>58785109You forgot one thing: No one askedCover do not force Holo to all follow the same content direction, each Holo have their own brand and they themselves decide what to do, if they don't want to do it like Marine then who can complain?
https://litter.catbox.moe/28jdqs.zip
>>58785111Audience love it, competitive scene goes where the sponsors are and that's Valorant.
>>58785184It must be Mori's fault somehow
>>58785222Chu~
>>58785148easy 100k
>>58785157We can still save her unlike Mori and Bae……
>>58784806With how much buffed content in place right now? I give her a maximum of 8
>>58785154Just look at Phony covers and most of them are the top most watched for every vtuber that covered it
>>58785222Probably. She must've possessed Kronii to possess Axel's body during the homo quiz show.
>>58782008Anyone with two braincells knew this about Kronii - she can get a lot of viewers, but her schedule and stream habits kill off the chance to have a good average. If she were to start doing Minecraft and buff games consistently again, she'd probably go back to her old peaks. Instead she streams a random mediocre indie game ever four weeks and fucks off.
[Caution] DO NOT check Ao's waiting room numbers
Global Goldhttps://www.youtube.com/live/1RYLFVZd5LY
>>58784862He puts Kiara in the NijiEN chart, in part for comparison, in part to shitpost. Shiori content is very niche and often under pretty heavy overlap, so it's not suprising really. Under 5k already is a little worrying but if she can manage to stabalise above 5k when things settle she'll be in a good spot
>>58785148>Purposefully pick the hardest season to start climbingEver seen after IPO literally every Holo have been pulling every trick to numberfag. Ironically Pekora is the least numberfaggy Holo now
>>58785189>her most watched videoI rest my case
>>58785148easy 300k
>>58785267Ok I won’t, I’m watching Kanatan already
>>58785148Nah, won't pass Kronii
>>58785267Yeah I just saw that shit on my front page, it's depressing.>>58785261My guy have you fucking seen Kronii's Mineraft numbers lately? It's not good. She's killed most good will and outside of her dedicated fanbase, which she still somehow has, she's only good for tourist attractions.
>>58785267I'm prepared for her to mog her genmates
Another jp gold EN never learn
>>58785267When was the last time somebody was such a runt straight from debut?
>>58785210Asking or not. Having the option available for those who choose to use it would be a bonus. It can sometimes help to be proactive in these things as a company. It wouldn't be forcing the girls to use the choreographer but there would be many who would use it. Or better yet do a survey to the girls asking who would use it, if enough to make it worth while respond, then move forward. The biggest problem with cover is they're always riding the girls coat tails. Even when they do something, it's a blatant rip off of something the girls did better.
>>58785248Kanata? Mio? Shion? Toko? Fuwa? Lui? Watame?
We LOVE miss Ouro and her voluptuously fat TITS in this thread desuuuuu~~~~
Why don't hololive spam sponsorships like Nijisanji though? At first, I thought diluting their brand or sharing IPs would make the talent's brand into shit for having their faces on products, but cover seems to want more money. I'm also pretty sure there's someone in nijisanji who gets all the sponsorships for them even for little things like putting their talents on a cookie product.
>>58785326Sana
Aqua lewds today
>>58785327They decide those thing with their managers, if there is a need for it, they would have done it alreadyEnd of story
>>58784806Her first solomas was very meaningful. It signified the return of the queen who has risen from the ashes of her Apex arc. Antis didn't stop Aqua from playing Apex and she was way stronger than before. Anime kino stuff The subsequent solomas challenge seems like normal apex grind to me. Not sure it gets a lot of buff
>>58785346Only the voluptuously fat TITS part
What would it take to make some sort of baseball tier metric (something like WAR) for an overall rainking since everyone has arguments against CCV, watch hours, median, etc? Would there even be any interest in that?
>>58785326Sana and Lui were undisputed runts
>>58785348Hololive already does that. They're on Family Mart shelves all the time.
>>58785326Koyo and Lui for holoX
>>58785383She's guaranteed gold for today at least. There's no real competition.
kronii probation status?
Mumei subs ticked, 930k, 70k to go
>>58785110>implying pomu and nina aren’t in the clique Actual retard
>>58785404>setting up a grudgepostHow do you fags never get tired of this
>>58785327Hologra, holoearth, and hololive city are all things they came up with themselves and other than holoearth getting kneecapped by unity they are all doing pretty good
>>58785267The only good stream Ao has done was her Parasocial stream where the act was completely blown away.
>>58785326Lui was pretty bad but not THIS badI think Ao is just simply a shit hireWhen I see her stream I can only understand why she reincarnated 8 fucking timesAnd can't comprehend why Hololive hired her in despite of this
>>58785157As a crat I hate Kronii like A LOT. Also hate all of IRyS' chadcast buddies
>>58785406Shortened to 3 months.
>>58785383yeah, it doesn't have a story arc unless she plans to go predator with matsuri and towa or vspo. But the fact still stands, that she's truly at the apex of what vspo thrives to be while pekora is the apex of what nijisanji is trying to be while suisei/marine is the apex of what kaf/kamitsubaki trying to be.
>>58784866Over 50k people, based on what we know about youtube ccv significantly more then 50k, watched her 3D showcase. This suggests she's well loved and doing a fantastic job and should keep it up for years to come
>>58785406Still pending
>>58785422Aqua will get at least 70k today.
>>58785400Family mart, lawson, 7e etc. I haven't seen them do McD, KFC or coco's restaurant yet. Seeing how okayu reached out to that burget restaurant once, they have significant pull on this.
>EN discussion at this hourLooks like the shitposters that shit up this thread during JP hours got bonked, or they were the ones behind it all this time
>>58785380I see, so management already has all the answers. Guess there's no arguing that logic.>If homos were a detriment they would be gone already end of story.>If there was a need for EN3 last year, it would have happened. End of story.
>>58785440>>58785433has she talked about the homo graduations at all? other than that members post?
>>58785437Great, which also means that Kronii is also well-loved and doing a fantastic job and should keep it up for years to come, despite the constant doom and gloom clamouring from this thread.
Fwmc 1M before Fauna and Bae?
Save her (him).
>>58785157As a crat I love Kronii like A LOT. Also hate all of IRyS' chadcast buddies
>>58785422He's probably right though.
>>587854213 years of efforts gone to waste for Holoearth and millions in funding... instead of making Holocure mobile real.
>>58785148This is an easy 30-40k, but more than that will require a reallly good run (3 champion-contention rounds in a row).
>Why doesn't Suisei just leave Hololive and strike out on her own now that she's built such a reputation as a singer?
>>58785267what went wrong?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3phaXN_FjiEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3phaXN_FjiEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3phaXN_FjiE
>>58785427She reminds me of Towa when she was starting out. Only time will tell if she can break out of her shell
>>58785239Cuck
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO MYSTA RUN FASTER
>>58785218thx
>>58785469Well since the beginning all these dancing stuffs are from the Holo themselves>Watame have her own vocal coach>Pekora paid to take extra dance lesson outsideEither way if they feel like doing it then they will
>>58785476Reminds me of FlayonToo niche
>>58785491unity back-tracked so it's alright
>>58785476someone needs to show cover that copying nijisanji was pointless. They're just opting to do "make designs to cater specific audience" rather than just do their own thing by having more lore shit that made them successful in the first place.
Do people really think that a talent would just admit to breaking a company rule without her manager noticing and deleting it immediately
>>58785393A year ago an anon tried doing that but the system still based on gold
>>58785400>>58785466I visited Japan(read: Tokyo) before the pandemic and haven't been there since. Kinda curious how common vtuber stuff is there now.
>>58785502Stop this.
>>58785496didn't she get 100k+ last time she did this? even with the repeat content debuff, she should still be able to get at least 80k
>>58785433>>587854066 months. 3 if she actually streams more.
>>58785432Have you written her a superchat telling her how much you hate her friends and that you think she's a shit judge of character?
>>58785400HoloJP does plenty of sponsorships and collabs, anymore and it’ll start to be like when Kizuna Ai was getting pimped out to everyone.
>>58785523funny how singer + demon or singer + comet or singer + pirate or sailor maid + singer could attract more female viewers than a dyke character
>>58785472Obviously true, the doom and gloom is just people being sad she hasn't been streaming so much and hoping she's okay
>>58781993>https://holo.poi.cat/https://vt.poi.cat/ is now a thing, and boy am I loving it
>>58785313So if I'm reading it right, her last Minecraft stream was 8.6k and it was purely solo from start to finish. That's pretty good considering there was nothing really going on at the time in-game. The problem is that viewers need something to get hooked into with a game like minecraft (be it a project or VC with other girls). My point isn't just "play better games" but also "stream good stuff consistently". People stop watching consistently when very few streams a week (or even a month) are worth watching. That's why a mixed schedule like FWMC or a buff schedule like Fauna's are good - they keep people looped in the channel even if they don't watch every stream. Kronii has eroded that floating audience, but the nature of the box means that they're not difficult to get back.
>>58785562HoloJP can't do that anymore since they are struggling now.
>>58785583>Luna beat TamakiHow the turntables
>>58785553How could I ever say something like that....You think pebbles could complain to biboo about pink woman?
>>58785540Stuff like this is pretty common at convenience stores. You also see their faces on branded products like drinks or snacks pretty often.
>>58785476I wonder if Ao knew this was going to be a tough road.Reminds me of Kiara saying someone in council was upset about her design and vented to her about it; obviously Sana in retrospect. If you know the market and know anime stuff, you can tell when you get stuck with the experimental debuff design
>>58785586>buff schedule like Fauna'slike what?
>>58785613
>>58785491I’m pretty sure Kay Yu won’t let Holocure get ported to mobile.
>>58785624Anything Fauna streams is buff, except FPS shit
>>58785613Luna is hella strong
>>58785583oh, moom passing shu soonwhen is he graduating btw
>>58785624Fauna does nothing but spam buff games whenever she decides to stream. Her real numbers would be dire if she stopped doing that.
Biboo has potential with easy 10K+ minrcraft streams since she was trained by Kaela and got 10K in a multipov collab
>>58785374Anon... the hurdle is just way too big. Not even Aguapex can make it over. Unfortunately ハードルが高い。
>>58785644Good pointNow only if she would actually stream
>>58785631Holy fucking based hime
>>58785624Actually she's more like FWMC now that I think of it. One stream will be Switch Sports with 3D or Starfield on launch day, the other will be Superchat reading or zatsu.
>>58785663Biboo and Fauna MC collab should do decent numbers, especially if they can get Kaela involved
>>58785662like what?
>>58785663She'll spam Souls / FROM shit #47375 instead
Kronii gold? I love big tits lewdposting
>>58784235IRyS is worthless, she had JP members as guest and still lost to Kronii kek
>>58785642Phase modder: free games don't have any say pls
>>58785662>This streamer plays games that gets her viewers, someone stop her!I will literally never understand this argument. By this logic, Nerissa should be the queen of Vtubing.
>>58785406homo schizo status?
>>58785687Hitman and Planet Zoo, the ultimate FOTM buff games
>>58785667aqua has a 70k floor today. just look at her waiting room
>>58785667I want those tits sagging and want them sagging now.
>>58785718Those are buff because it's Fauna playing them, your putting the cart before the horse anon
>>58785718Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
>>58785644>Anything Fauna streams is buffI wanna see Fauna plays a fromSoft game. The one FWMC played.
>>58785697She's playing Minecraft tomorrow (monday).
>>58785724Delusional JPkek. HoloEN will dominate holoJP from now on.
>>58785708A good vtuber should be able to get numbers without relying on buff content. Just look at Pekora or Koyori.
Objective list of top vtubers
>>58785348
>>58785642cover could just ask to buy the game from him after seeing its success and port it to mobile with official art of the talents and harder farms of golds. Make it so there's an energy bar to limit how many hours a person could play. Character gacha doesn't use gold anymore but gems. 100 gems for 1 roll. 1000 gems for 10. You can gather 3-5 gems every match. There's also a story mode too.
>>58785667Looks absolutely delicious
>>58785765They did, he refused to sell and cover is too nice to force the issue
>>58785756Kobo has lower CCV than Ame
>>58785718planet zoo is a buff game, yes
>>58785765Cover met with Kay Yu and probably did ask to either partner with him or buy the game. He declined to commercialize it in any way
IT'S JUPITER YOU STUPID VAMPIRE
Don't look at ririka VOD views...
>>58785667Vespers gonna love coming home to these tonight
>>58785779NIJISEETHE
>>58785756>salome doesn't make it to the top 10
>>58785759was the reception and merch runs from among us collab good?
>>58785765They can’t, Kay Yu won’t hand over control of it. He doesn’t care about the money.
>>58785791VOD views are a meaningless metric
>>58782008Maybe just maybe saplings and irystocrats should keep their head down with what little dignity they have left instead of coping
>>58785663I really hope biboo would numberfag the shit out of everything and as hard as she could. So the girls realize game choices and planning affect the success of their careers, and learn from biboo. Unwillingness to numberfag always lead to lower quality streams.
>>58785792Who?
>>58785406Lifted.
>>58785753>Koyori>MGS, Minecraft, AC6Well your examples were half correct, anyway.
>>58785759owari da nippon
>>58785783Not even joking but her planet zoo streams are legitimately good
>>58785776>>58785785well that settles it, but still i wished they made a good gacha game. Even a princess connect clone would be good
>>58785792>Still trying to bait with a long-dead and memoryholed corpsegrim
>>58785827>Unwillingness to numberfag always lead to lower quality streams.Nah fuck off Fauna's streams are great and she doesn't numberfag
>>58785779Nani u kiddin me
>>58785497That's because she spends the bulk of her time and effort promoting Suisei (Blue Dorito). No blue dorito, no views. If she was an indie, people will know her as an indie.
>>58785765Just sell holocure merch sprite keychains and stands much better morally
>>58782226She got Marine's blessing You would think someone like Suisei would be popular amongst TikTok normalfags, but she got beaten by a horny pirate cosplayer and a loli in TikTok
>>58785779Speaking of whichRUN FASTER SALOME
>>58785843Pangolins were a fucking mistakeBug walk love
doubters status?
>>58785867100k streamer beaten by Ame Roru.
>>58785849>she doesn't numberfagSo true. I can't wait for Fauna's next Starfield stream.Oh wait.
>>58785859Is this because Sussi can't dance?
holy FUCK GO MEL GO>cO2What the fuck Mio
>>58785427her rigging is just straight broken. raden's is really bad too but she seems more capable of nuancing it.and jesus christ the grandpa blazer
>>58785881Now compare that to a Raden zatsu
>>58785849>doesn't numberfag>avoids overlapping like the plague>doesn't do long playthroughs
Btw I have never watch any regloss, which one should I try first?
>>58785888...Anon? She's played it twice. She stopped on a cliffhanger and plans on going back. What the fuck are you on? She fucking finished Bioshock 2 despite it giving her all time low numbers. Actually baffling post.
>>58785925That one anon's cute Honorary Britannian wife Ririka
>>58785849>Doesn't numberfaganon.... I....
>>58785925Kanade or Ririka
Hot damn vt.poi.cat is amazing
>>58785833BASED BEHAVIOUR DESU
>>58785765They won't sell it. Everyone contributed to the project with the understanding it will be free and non-commercial. There will be a lot of drama and infighting if that were to change.
>>58785900>grandpa blazerReviewbrah would be proud
Marine is doing karaoke on Rushia timeslot today and might funnel to Aqua
>>58785849Fauna is /here/
>>58785938>3 million subs soon btw
>>58785938>Chimakeks mogged by Suisei in phony>Mogged by Enna in subsHoly kek
>>58785888Hehe an actual brainless retard appeared. My condolences retard-kun.
>>58785894Her songs aren't very danceable or tik-tok-ish either.
>>58785881>peaking out before 15 minutesShe also charts like a NijiEN.
>>58785938>Enna passed ChimaDamn.
>>58785938Anya brutally mogging Zbrahim. You love to see it.
>>58785468Members post?
>>58785468Nigga that members post was not about them she was talking about ACTUAL death.
>>58785792Sister the accident wasn’t your fault…
>>58785971Rushia timeslot was 18:00 JST.
>>58785989Suisei song are more artist-y in nature, certainly not made for Tik Tok zoomers
>>58785427>she reincarnated 8 fucking timesShe what? All reincarnations as indie or mix with corpo?>And can't comprehend why Hololive hired her in despite of thisShe triggers Yagoo's saviorfagging sideJust like Raden
How fast is Maribako and Bishoujo 2M to 3M?Can Ui mama beat them?
Everyone who falls below meiro should be fired
>>58786008what cover did to them is worse than death
>>58785933If Fauna actually streamed more than once a week we wouldn't have random faggots saying she doesn't play shit. Just ignore until she comes back and they'll leave.
>>58786010That's probably the parrot faggot posting for his next video.
>>58785924wrong on all fronts
>>58785948>irys >fauna>kroniiNice try sister
>>58786052
>>58785925Ririka because I'm a dirty gaijin and love my pure bred white woman wife.
>>58786059>>>/vt/pcg
>>58785989Maybe she can make it on tiktok if she turned maintenance song into an MV with a catchy dance animation. Specter's songs are rock by genre and I don't think tiktok women are interested in dancing to rock shit
>>58786035Actual grim.
>>58784967Some nijileech
Marine - 40kAqua - 80k
Vampireronii or Timerys??My vote for Vampireronii
UI MAMA I KNEEL
Damn why can't all Star fan be like this instead of homobegging?
How to fix Ao and Ririka? I want all regloss to be 5view bros...
>>58786051Alright anon show me a part 5+ of a Fauna playthrough that is not Minecraft or meme games she plays once in a blue moon like Hitman and Skyrim
>>58786106
>>58786034Bishopai started faster, but eventually slowed down, and picked up again AFTER 10mLolikami started slower because it didn't premiere after a 100k+ concert but it's picking up very fast
>>58786103If HoloX can't manage to be a full gen of 5views, ReGLOSS definitely won't.
>>58786098This is the nth time someone have predicted 40k for Marine utawaku only for it to be around 30k every time
>>58786035Anyone below the Tsumugu line should be fired. She still is officially part of Nijisanji by the way and gets included in all the promo stuff/websites, which is hilarious.
>>58786099I know Kronii's best collab partner was Vesper, buy my heart say Timerys
>>58786116>dropped before finishing itYou just made.my point even clearer, she learned from this
>>58786059It will never not be funny to me when someone posts a CGDCT roster someone replies with a completely random name that shouldn't be on it.At this point none of them should be on it if /#/ had their way.
>>58786106Also>Skyrim doesn't countO fucking gey retard.
>>58786100>2 weeks>61K subs
>>58784969again, Lazufags were the ones celebrating, while other fans were like "oh cool I guess".Niji fanbase is a lot more fractured than you think
>>58786103Riri just had a 14k Smash stream. She's got legs.
>>58786100Is the song really that good? I still haven't listened to it but from what I've seen it's just pedo pandering
>>58785938bruh ui got 46k subs in the past week
https://x.com/moricalliope/status/1703698315345633392Rrats now
>>58786140>dropped before finishing itShe finished the game you fucking mongoloid. https://youtu.be/Q46HMWMAvZU?t=18865
>>58786102Starfags = holofags but female version Beggars = holoan Which part of it do you not understand
>>58786133Fuck off beggar
5k soon i believe
>>58786106Anon not every holo wants to be shitters that do long playthroughs like Kiara and BibooLong playthroughs are toxin for streamers, its not about being a numberfag its about having common sense
>>58785148Might not be 100k but it'll break 60k AT LEAST
>>58786140>droppedLMAO look at this retard!!
>>58785791Don't look ay koyori p5r vod
>>58786173People are randomly following that account? Was there any news from it or something?
>>58786200who gives a shit about VOD views?
>>58785427Luna reincarnated a bunch too, and that was the main topic against her shitposting back in the day.Hololive is the ultimate second chance, that will change her for the better.
How did Ui get "The bless of incline" instead of regloss?
>>58786140There are literally 3 games she outright dropped, and she said she'd drop them. Pokemon Shining Pearl and Kirby and The Forgotten Land, both of which she said she wasn't enjoying. She never got to finish Arceus because she got busy and perms ran out.
>>58785541No she did not, that was with Startend
>>58786106>Bioshock>AC blackflag>Pokemon>Sonic>Penumbra>RE7
>>58786140>Abortion survivor behaviour
>>58786183>60~100k predictionYou took much risk broTry make your prediction gap bogger
Kronii you whore. You forgot all the good times with Vesper, Magni, Axel and Altare for a slut like Irys
>>58786178Holos need to learn that IF... IF they're gonna do long playthroughs of new games, they need to just do a full week of it on release while the hype is alive. I'll never understand their casual mentality to FOTM games.
>>58785667already setting up grudgeposts eh phasekek? you had the same posts about Fauna yesterday
>>58786221*2 games
>>58786173It's honestly quite a feat for Cover to make something with so many talents involved bomb so hard. They probably couldn't do it if they tried.
>>58786200Seems alright to me.
Holy fuck she cooking
>yet another councilshitter denied gold with the biggest event of her careeryou love to see it
>>58786216give hajime 3d model and let her do some dance shorts on tiktok
>>58785759Wow the comments on that tweet, they really fucking hate vtubers.
I miss my wife
>>58786258I literally could not care less about her extended family roleplay, where's the karaoke
>>58786173Even Towa and Botan didn't follow it. Lap didn't either.
>>58786261EN will not get a gold unless JP said so
>>58786173holy shit man, under 5k followers for an official Cover projecttotal fanbase rejection
>>58786173All holoans should follow. And support that project. Holo can only be destroyed from the inside
>>58786258What brought this on?
>>58786162it's pretty catchy, and the dance is fun
>>58786212La+
>>58786258Where's the fucking music, bird?
>>58786106When did she avoid overlaps? She literally only streamed at 3PST for more than a year now. Are you one of those takos who were shitting on her for a couple of months when Ina streamed and got more views than her until she got BTFO'd?
>>58786287She is acting exactly like Kiara and I love it
>>58786296holoantis are fundamentally lazy. if they wanted to destroy Hololive, the best way to do it is to cause the Holostars to massively incline so it looks like popular demand is on their side. But it's too much work to watch streams
>>58786197Mococo, the most entertaining Advent and the sex symbol of EN
>>58786173Is there an account for Blue Journey?
>>58786279I miss your wife too
>>58786249>ATISHI MO FUASTO AAMII DAYO~~
>>58786319Give me back my predebut hype
>>58786346
>>58786331can't even be bothered to sub
Do retards really think Fauna is a numberfag? We were just shitopsting about her being /here/...
>>58786368the youtube channel
>>58786162>pedo panderingIt's pedo dissing anon
>>58786249slipped
>>58786398Kiara, Mori, and IRyS are the only numberfags really
>>58786377-subscribing and watching streamsTakes some effort, actual time and fills your subscription box with junk-shitting up 4chan/5chan/Reddit/Youtube commentsLiterally free, takes maybe a minute or 2
>>58786398Offtopic, cuckling.
>>58786398She's a CGDCTchad so of she'd be here >:3
Kronii will be lucky to even get on the podium today
>not a single one of them above 200k yetPeople are getting fired for this shit right?How did they fuck up a new gen this badly
>>58786424???
>>58786398The issue is her goals somewhat align with numberfag goals. Finding streams that both the audience and talent enjoys, and not just the talent alone, is apparently a big fucking hurdle for HoloEN, so when someone actually does it people call it numberfagging.
>>58786173>disowned by Aqua, Marine, Koyori, and LamyIt's ogre
>>58786434who's getting gold?
>>58786331No one is too lazy to watch entertaining stuff to them. Homos are hella boring or suffering to listen to. This is the only reason beggar refused to bloat homo's numbersBeggars are unwilling to listen homo stream as some background noises
>>58786405I have a feeling that being verbally abused by a loli isn't exactly a bad thing for lolicons
>>58786435Didn't they already lose 200k+ subs because of the culls? They should all be above most of Advent by now.
>>58785571She can't act the dyke character wellThere's an unnatural feeling Heck, even Matsuri flirts better than Ao
>>58786173>>58786368>>58786400How is Yagoo gonna explain?
I'LL MAKE A WOMAN OUT OF YOU AO-CHAN
>>58786435I honestly want to see how Cover will prop them up>Debut ccv: Going down from HoloX and Advent>Sub: Shit growth
>>58786100
>>58786461Doesn't change the fact that she's dissing them
>>58786447that's the opposite of numberfagging, like how irys does.
>>58786456Aqua
>>58786464they lost less than 100k
>>58786456Aqua, but other than that no contender
>>58785427>she reincarnated 8 fucking timesshe's a perfect fit for Holo then. Hololive is a place where anyone can get a 2nd chance. Luna did it, Pekora did it, Polka did it. Anyone can make it if they try hard enough
>>58786467The concert sold out and probably did OK online tickets as well so they'll just leave it as a footnote and probably not do another one. As for HLZNTL, well, they'll just sweep that shit under the rug I bet. Let it be forgotten.
>>58786417Nothing says numberfag like double fisting a JRPG and age restricted game! Or LaL and VA11HA11A! Or a 6 hour SC reading!
>>58786484IRyS outright stealth drops games when it gets too long unless it's capcom trash, you literally cannot fucking compare the two>b-but she does polls!And her members are a bunch of apes who don't know what they want
>>58786497>8 fucking times>2nd chanceretard
I love Fauna, Mumei, Gura and IRyS
>>58786103Ririka needs to have sex with me.
>>58786466That’s just drawing Naoto and saying it’s Ao.
>>58786504She always snipes and streams FOTM before anyone.
>>58786464>Didn't they already lose 200k+ subsRetard
>>58786435This is after Cover brought in the cavalry, imagine if they had just let it ride.
Cover has a big task on their hands to show their performance this year.... Blue Journey, HLZNTL, Dev_IS, 2 Tempus graduations...How do you even swing it around to show the positives from it
>>58786502>Persona 3>Play something else>nokek
>>58786026>All reincarnations as indie or mix with corpo?she was doing food reviews at one point
>>58785427You can argue this is why they're not in the main branch honestly
>>58785948This reminded me that I have to update my other list>/vt/ Unicorn friendly girlsGuraFaunaMumeiInaKiaraIRySBibooFWMCNerissa>Japanese hardcore Unicorn friendly girlsKroniiInaBaeFWMCI replaced IRyS in the second group with Kronii after doing some more research
>>58786488>>58786498She's not getting overlapped gangbanged?
>>58786542Anon none of that is affecting their bottom line, and from a bottom line perspective blue journey is amazing
>>58786501I think HLZNTL can be shown they got big boy sponsorships but the project will either be shelved or revamped.
>>58786453I didn't know Marine had disowned it too. Got a timestamp?
>>58786542By mentioning the stuff that went well: CtW, Advent, Hololive Summer, Hololive City, HoloFes4, probably more I'm not remembering
>>58786502that doesn't matter. She literally talks about numbers, begs for views, shills herself obnoxiously.
>>58786553Don't call it unicorn retard, call it gachikoi or somethingHalf of the first list is not unicorn approved
Aqua's previous solo master numbers for reference. Note that the box has almost doubled in size since 2022.
>>58786553>Bae
We're Inclining
>>58786542>HoloFes 4 exceeding expectations, Splash Party, CtW and T4U adding another 3 big concerts>vs a concert which definitely was profitable, a program to get sponsorships and what amounts to a rounding error of loss
>>58786586That's Gacha
>>58786553Thx for the post bae broWhere do you place Device
>>58786583That's why anon's second list exists.Your thought process is the japanese hardcore one.
>>58786542Connect The World 2 in NYC, the fat injection of USD will be a nice distraction.
>>58786553>TaintedSoraMikoAZKiSuiseiRobocoMatsuriAkiFubukiMelSubaruAyameChocoMioKoronePekoraMarineNoelTowaBotanPolkaLaplusLuiChloeRadenHajimeRirikaKanadeAo>UntaintedHaachamaAquaShionOkayuFlareLunaWatameKanataNeneLamyIrohaKoyori
>>58786524you really think non holo vtuber can be considered as a chance at this point anon?
https://youtu.be/iUKvzq356Sk> de-facto ruler of Indonesia likes Suisei, Marine and MoriHOLOLIVE WORLD DOMINATION
>>58786464no one knows the real culled numbers, they even got culled live.
>>58786524>/#/ can't into numbersheh
>>58786453Add Kanata to the list. She disowned it first thing after she came back from her break.
>>58786586retard
>>58786613Not NYC please. I still think they should do it in Vegas.
>>58786576You mean when she literally says obsessing over numbers is unhealthy?
>>58786587She's in the correct spot
>>58786614Newfag doesn't know Holo history kek
>>58786586>Note that the box has almost doubled in size since 2022You are making shit up
>>58786553Holy fucking retard.
>>58786542>Blue Journeyit's a success>holofesmassive success>CtWmassive success>T4Uvery successful>Hololive Cityvery successful>Adventliterally revitalizing EN vtuber scene>Holosummerfinancially disastrous because of day1 being made free but it garners a lot of goodwill from fans
>>58786553japanese corns have based tastes
>>58786553>BibooIt's already too late for her.
>>58786620The classic “I’m a woman” pack. Only missing Towa.
>>58786667I didn't put her in the second group for a reason
>>58786684She shouldn't be in either.
>>58785759>>58786278Damn, literal same shit as TheAnimeMan rant about Nene being featured in JP Playboy
>>58786667You're not seeing the connection as to why most of the top list are not in the bottom list
>>58786667>>58786689She's ok for /vt/ standards "unicorn" just like Fauna and Mumei
>>58786583You don't want to see male collabs? You're an unicorn. That's what it meant before faggots turned it into a retarded culture war.
>>58786665If Cover didn’t have some kind of clause for if Zan fucked up in their contract then their lawyer should be given to Reine’s family.
>>58786667>>58786694kys doxxnigs
>>58783266Kek reading the comments here they also have Nijikek defense force and holokeks called holobuta.
>>58786614I will change Iroha with my own two hands
>>58786640Nah, back in LA but in SoFi stadium.
>>58786689If that's the line you're drawing then the top list shouldn't exist at all, it should only be the bottom list.
>>58785759> normies seething at anime 2.0bet you anything this guy's a hikineet
>>58785427Ao reincarnated 8 times?? How come she seems inexperienced at streaming?
omfg
https://poal.me/c0n7hdhttps://poal.me/c0n7hdhttps://poal.me/c0n7hdShall we forgive Kronii?
>Nerissa Ravencroft
>>58786719Acceptable, I had fun in LA and didn't get shot or murdered like everyone said. Plus matching it with AX weekend was really convenient.
>>58786544As a chuuba?She probably has no idea what she's good at or her best selling point I tried to listen to her talking and singing, doesn't sound that deepMy talking voice is deeper than hers
>>5878514840k - 55k. Gold!!!
>>58786620Kinda forgot who the fuck her mom was kek.
>>58786708let's hope that's the case. Giving away concert for free is unheard of.
>>5878674670k floor
>>58786730Yes
>>58786665Flopvent didn’t revitalise anything anon
>>58786724>israel
>>58785406what I miss?
>>58786724> youtube channel is dead> twitch channel is alivewhat did they mean by this?
>>58786720>then the top list shouldn't exist at allYes
>>58786724AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>58786763Mousey continues to carry EN vtubing
>>58786763
>>58786772Back to 5ch with you
>>58786724>It's realthat's funny.Yeah that project is a corpse, it was obvious as soon as the first army all started saying they would NEVER touch it. Completely radioactive.
>>58786771just like Lap+!
>>58786753Shit about Reine being a literal Indonesian princess is supposed to be a shitpost, just like Lamy being a yakuza princess or Suisei being a Russian tsar family descendant....Right?
>>58786665>revitalizinglol
>>58786755The Z-an debacle also really put the faggot who keep screeching about "Cover making their own streaming website" in their place. There's a reason why they can't do it, the infrastructure needed to host the entire Holobox is likely out of their reach. Not even dedicated streaming site can handle the box
>>58786783what it meanchannel deleted?
>>58786724What about the twitch channel?
>>58786173you think Holizontal will be saved if they rebrand the thing as an esports-focused vtuber group?
>>58786553>Nerissa
>>58786732ENTER RAVENCROFT
>JP hours>thread is full of thinly veiled doxxshit
>>58786787Better you not ask questions about it
>>58786804Many such cases.
>>58786799Yeah she won't collab with homos
>>58786799Nerrisa might be a homo but she hasn't collabed with a homo
>>58786804It is our civic duty to point out some cuck behaviors.
>>58786798If they were to do that at this point it would be better to just scrap the hlzntl brand and start from scratch.
>>58786787>he doesn't knowhonestly you actually better to not know tbdesu.
>>58786724WINNING AS GOD INTENDED.
>>58786804hlgbrown raid again?
Couldn’t fit it but the CHaDCast episode also has 19k more views than IRyS or Baes Hologra debut and will hit 1 million before eitherMori buff strong.
>>58786502Kiara and Mori numberfag hard over their music views, not so much their streams though they do occasionally mention subs
>>58786836>raidThey never left
>>58786798The brand name sucks ASS and is tainted with the unwashable stench of Holostars so just abandon it entirely.
>>58786783Other than Aqua there is no one else in the first army can play fps on a pro level.
>>58786823now do JP
>>58786567They already got it with Red Bull Gaming, no? Unless there's something else I'm missing
>>58786852I always dislike the way they type "Powered by HLZNTL"The fuck did they do? Nothing, yet they make it sound like this shit was only possible thanks to them
>>58786860Literally no one in JP is a whore. They are very open in their rm accounts and admit anything that happens.
>>58786856Ame can easily do that anon.
>>58786804>EN Hours>whoremei63.pngMaybe the problem isn’t the time
What the fuck neal
>>58786895delusional dogfucker
>>58786886The other retarded problem is it sounds like a sex joke depending on how they name the events.>holizontal jamhttps://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/horizontal_tangoThis stupid ESL over at Cover corp needs to ask for advice from real English speakers before he spams his dumb chuuni English names for shit
>>58785406Singronii is my new oshi
>>58786798Nope, scrap the brand, scrap the vision, fire the project heads via banishment room as a warning to middle management. Keep the ones responsible for getting sponsorships.
>>58786724Wasn't Pokémon Unite tournament a success?boosting Fauna and Kaela number
>>58786730She has done heavy mistakes and has done nothing to redeem herself.It's like a murderer who doesn't feel sorry and has done nothing to fix his mistake. He eats, plays, sleeps and enjoys his life. 10 years later he is good as a samaritan and everyone should forgive him.That's one hell of bullshit logic.
What does Miosha mean by this ...
>>58786842Why must youtube eat my imagesCHaDCast>UsaKen, UmiSea, all of ID and Shiraken
>>58786724AIIIIEEEEE HOMOBROS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO?
>>58786798Esport scene & org is dying. But actually hololive can replace the slot of official tournaments for those dying non profitable org and get more publicity
>>58786937>playing Uno with men=murder
>>58786553>Replaced IRySFuck offStop believing false rrats
>>58786780>instant deflection to nijisanjiYou truly are pathetic anon No amount os deflection will save flopvent
>>58786968>false.Haha...
>>58786724Man...Cover's side projects this year have all been poorly executedBlue Journey and DEV_IS at least were salvaged by holomem themselves, but there's no saving HLZNTLNo doubt some heads will be rolling (or whatever the nip business equivalent is)
>>58786895Ogey ken sama
>>58786938Pokemon unite wasn't Holozntal
>>58786965>She thinks Kronii's mistakes is playing Uno with males>Also failed to understand analogyNgmi
>>58786920>>58786997how do you retards fall for this bait every single time
Bakatare Saakasu
>>58787005It’s a shit analogy and I’m not posting my cock in /#/ again.
>>58786886>Cover Corp>Powered by hololive
>>58786924I'm pretty sure it was meant to be more "Horizon" as it the space, not the direction
>>58785583vt.poi.cat is shit at keeping track of numbers, if you care about accuracyLikehttps://vt.poi.cat/youtube-stream/d4CLpVz7m4Qthinks Fauna made ¥195k for her showcase, andhttps://vt.poi.cat/youtube-stream/dR9q_J-8mfMthinks IRyS made ¥456k for hers.The real numbers are at >>58782763 backed byhttp://hololyzer.net/youtube/realtime/superchat/d4CLpVz7m4Q.html>Fauna: ¥1084khttp://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/dR9q_J-8mfM.html>IRyS: ¥1858kCan't even track CCV eitherhttps://vt.poi.cat/youtube-stream/dR9q_J-8mfMthinks her max CCV was 50.0k, while a better site likehttps://www.vstats.jp/video/dR9q_J-8mfMshows it as 53.9k
>>58786997>>58787016>no rebuttalI accept your concession.
>>58787016People are reporting the spamming flip right?
>>58786614Aqua used to Collab with King and Kanae
Observe my cute wife
>>58786919>Blaming Neal for Ao's incompetencyThe other ReGLOSS girls don't have the problemIt's all on this trash whore
>>58786924>Blue Journeythe name itself is fine>BJHOW DID THIS PASS QC
>>58787033>Female mentality>Male bodyActual Tranny, doesn't make it any better.
>>58786987Clearly they need input from holomem to create a good project rather than create itself and fail
>>58787054Well Horizon is the root word for Horizontal, it basically means parallel to the plane of the horizon. I just think they didn't think it through, it's a pun with an English word and whoever came up with it doesn't really speak English very well and doesn't have an in-depth knowledge of English idioms
Not saying Kronii has redeemed herself, but Kronii has definitely improved. Why do you think that is?Her hanging out with IRyS, Homo graduation, her finally realising she fucked up, etc.
>168 IPsWho are you people? Go Back immediately!
>>58787124>He missed the 230 IP thread
>>58787114Kronii doesn't need unicorn.
>>58786667Fucking lies. No way.
>>58787134>>58787124A lot of the people are banned from the sapmod ban wave and ban evading.
>>58786987yagoo already figured it out half a decade ago with that legendary tweet, but they have since went astray
>>58787139She clearly does. Look at her SCShe used to be the SC queen of En. Now she can't even beat Fauna
>>58787070proof? give me 5 streams where they are collabing
>>58787114COMPLETE RECONDITIONING COMPLETE
>>58787163Her ccv is still higher than Fauna.
>>58782034>>58781993>>58781980>nijika thread
>>58787139Kronii doesn't need idol culture, idol senpai or hololive. Or even kronies.But krocucks need Kronii. That's why Kronii always win.
That said, I think First Army is streaming less and less nowadays? Or is it just my feeling?
>sapkeks ccv copingThey've fallen to luxiem sister tier
>you forgave kronii after she sang one song Lmfao you know she never felt like she did anything wrong or even felt sorry for cucking her fanbase? Even now she hasn’t apologised
>>58787070i miss hanging out with nijikilla