/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>5853878
kek

>>5853878
Now that Hololive is officially the face of vtubing, how do you think that'll change things going forward? Both for Hololive, and for the vtubing scene as a whole.

>>5854119
Fucking nothing is going to change.

>>5854119
>now

>>5853878
She didn't get a buff from a concert, she wasn't going to get a buff from her birthday.

>>5854119
Nothing will change she's too austistic to be a face of vtubing and cover will keep her in her box like she is rn.

BITCH I'M BUSTIN AT EM
GAWR GAWR GAWR
BITCH I'M BUSTIN AT EM
SHOOT FIRST ASK QUESTIONS LAST
BLAAWH BLAAWH
AIN'T NO TALKING HOMIE
I'M JUST BUSTIN AT EM

>>5853878
Gura should have never existed. Its her fault that coco is graduating.

Can gura please top 3m already? I'm so tired of you retarded numberfags.

>>5854190
the face of vtubing is either pekora or korone

>>5853878
Kizuna just needs to accept she's old and that all those young fertile toobers are going to pull in more males

>>5854119
>It will affect Ai's contract to some extent
>It will Ai's and her company's trust towards each other
>Just like when USA rose as the single superpower, it will push a new polar in this new era. It means, no more ESTUDIO ESPAÑOL because it has been proven that English is far more superior
>It will further increase the saturation in ENvtuber market
And a lot more. You can easily predict this shit if you're doing well in college. Wonder why all these retards saying nothing will change lol.

>>5853878
its over

>>5853878
Congratulations to Gura, I’m proud of her and I’ll wait for 3 million subs. I also respect Kizuna Ai for establishing the bases for Vtubing that others like her would follow

>>5854119
It's not going to change anything. We've all known this was going to happen for a while now. Gura could have 20M subs but it's not going to change who she is and she's not someone who's going to step into any kind of spotlight or carry any kind of torch for vtubing. She never asked for this and she won't embrace it. I'd be surprised if she even addresses it. It's just a number.

>>5854371
ogey

>>5854119
nothing is going to change.

>>5854395
>she's not someone who's going to step into any kind of spotlight or carry any kind of torch for vtubing. She never asked for this and she won't embrace it.

It's gonna be like Shinji and getting in the robot.

She's going to hate it at first, she'll embrace it eventually but for the wrong reasons, then she'll become depressed, then she'll embrace it on her own terms.

>>5853878
I'M GONNAAAA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMBER

>>5854254
Anon, the reason Ai is dead in the water is because they kept changing her VA. Current AI barely cares.

>>5853878
niggerlive gets the noose

meanwhile, on some part of north America:
https://files.catbox.moe/b5d7h2.webm

>>5854463
Pekora will soon claim Korone's throne as the #1 JP Holo

>>5854610
alright, that's pretty cute

>>5853878
It won't be official until Gura hits 2.97 on Youtube itself before Kizuna does

>>5854713
>moving the goalpost

>>5853878
>sell out to chinks
>your own character gets replaced by a random soulless chinese woman (really goes to show that she had nothing going for her)
>forgotten and replaced

Poetic. Good fucking riddance.

>>5854764
The numbers in OP are just estimations. YouTube doesn't expose exact sub counts publicly past 1M, they're rounded down to the nearest 10k.

>>5854764
The numbers people are showing are estimates based on expected rate of increase and historical subscriber rates. We won't actually know Gura passed Kizuna conclusively until she hits a new number before Kizuna does.

Not a goalpost at all, literally just stating reality.

>>5854849
>>5854862
That's even better. Let's just hope Ai will actually get the sub boost when the concert begins, and both of them can keep going besides each other. It will be more dramatic if Gura can take it over at the edge of 2.99

>>5854862
>>5854849
Yes everyone knows that but the estimates are pretty accurate if you refresh the page when they tick over the 10k threshold its usually on point. Further Gura just finished a banger 300k+ view stream that will get many vod views it is a foregone conclusion 12 hours or less. There is no reason to drag the goal posts as if some mythical number miracle will occur just start weaving the new narratives about Gura#1 AI#2

>>5854231
neither want that responsibility too

>>5854824
dont worry, Gura will also be replaced soon as well to shill for their new chinese overlords

>>5855046
Good luck teaching a soulless chink to be as big of a dumbass like Gura
You are going to need it

>>5854824
>still peddling an almost 2 year old rrat

>>5854968
>Yes everyone knows that but the estimates are pretty accurate if you refresh the page when they tick over the 10k threshold its usually on point.
That's only because they keep polling the YouTube API until they get an actual number change.

>>5855074
Artia is soul

>>5854610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuITcCV2pV4

>>5855119
>rrat
she got cloned 5(five) times after the ojii got tired of her you fucking imbecile

>>5855252
Non-chan still voices her, you dumb fuck. Do your fucking reps and stop digging up dead rrats.

>>5855119
How is it a rrat when Kizuna AI herself announced it during the chinese takeover
no matter how many times you spam it you cant change history like your CCP masters do zhang
https://streamable.com/gtp5o

>>5855119
https://bml.bilibili.com/vr
Explain this

>>5853878
I'm doing my part, i'm liking & retweting anything that mention this with my alt accs rumao

>>5854463
Holy shit Mori is going to pass up DOOG and Pekora soon

>>5853878
This is like being impressed that Amazon stock was more profitable in 2020 than it was in 1998.
Gura rode a wave of popularity to the top in a market where it had already been decided by corporate suits that there was enough of a western market + jp that it would be worth it to have a vtuber branch of english speaking vtubers.
Ai was doing her thing long before vtubers were thought of as anything other than autistic weirdos who never left their rooms and were probably 40 year old men. She showed people it can be cute and fun and engaging. I only started watching vtubers last year and even I recognize that no one can take that away from Ai, she was the pioneer that showed it can be successful.

>>5855673
Ai has always been a corporate mascot meant to sell shit, stop deluding yourself

>>5855673
Like 50% of Ai's streams back in her hey day were shill streams.

>>5855673
>I only started watching vtubers last year
It really shows, secondary

>>5854535
You're half right. She's already gone through that whole arc with the first 1M and 2M sub milestones. At this point she's accepting her responsibility and already beginning to really come out of her shell and grow. The recent summer festival where she began to interact with her JP senpai on stream for the first time showed this pretty well.

>>5855728
>>5855855
>>5855985

Her early stuff may have been advertising, but that's not the point, was it, you idiots?
The point was that there simply wasn't a market outside of Japan and niche markets in the west for vtubing. Yet, even with Ai "only being a shill" as you morons suggest (likely bent-ass "shrimps") I still knew her by name even before I started actually watching any vtubers. I would never have heard of Gura, even with her sudden popularity. That is the difference. Ai made her way in a market before vtubing was really a thing. Gura rode the coat tails of other entertainers that came before her, including JP based hololivers and particularly people like Coco who served as a translation bridge from JP to EN.

>>5853878
>AI
I used to rule the world
Seas would rise when I gave the word
Now in the morning I sleep alone
Sweep the streets I used to own
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvgZkm1xWPE

>>5854119
>how do you think that'll change things going forward?
Cover will still be absolute dog shit with all of their tech related support for their talent. Nothing will change.

>>5856083
>Gura rode the coat tails of other entertainers that came before her, including JP based hololivers and particularly people like Coco who served as a translation bridge from JP to EN.
While you're not wrong about this, that doesn't explain how she's so much more successful than the rest of her genmates if that was all that's going for her. There's something special about Gura. You don't get growth like this by accident when every single other person in your company is pretty much following the normal trend.

>>5855252
Kind of true. Kizuna was split into 4. Around the same time, the original Kizuna took a small break and rumors that she was replaced started spreading. The original came back and stayed as Kizuna, the other clones were given different names, Love-chan and Aipii. I don't know much about the chinese one.
The splitting of Kizuna pretty much killed her. No one cares about the truth if Kizuna's original VA was actually fired or was just on break, the damage has already been done.

>>5856206
Yeah it's called pedophiles anon

>>5856340
If that were true, Shion would be in second

>>5856226
Maybe if management refused to even acknowledge the existence of the clones for months it wouldn't have happened

>>5856340
>>5856384
Luna would be first

>>5856083
>Ai made her way in a market before vtubing was really a thing.
Except the fact that it was very much a thing within the anime community once more people learned about Kizuna, especially during the VRChat era. Just because it didn't hit your zoomer Discord social club doesn't mean people didn't know about vtubing before HoloEN. Yes Vtubing was a lot more corporate back then, but that's essentially because no one knew what to do with Vtubing aside from making skits. Vtubers were still relatively popular.

Clipfags and the fact Vtubers within Hololive and Nijisanji started to become streamers instead of sending out 3-20 minute videos is the reason the overseas market grew, Coco's "bridge" or even Gura didn't really do much except spread the word even further to something that already had a healthy enough popularity. If anything, vtubers like Aqua should be praised for bringing in that market, since bi-weekly gaming streams was a foreign concept until she started to do them more in 2019.

>>5856459
Not surprising you deleted your comment like a weak faggot you are.

>>5854371
>Just like when USA rose as the single superpower
Good thing that era is over, good riddance.

>>5856340
>>5856412
>>5856384

anya . . anya . . anya . .

>>5856459
Kizuna was a flash in the pan, she was a nice fad for a year and then everyone moved on. It wasn't until Hololive got big the past couple years that vtubing became an industry.

>>5856594
I'd say Niji had the market for most of 2019 but they never capitalized on it and got absolutely mogged by hololive in the global market from late 2019 to this day

>>5856669
Hololive also dominated the japanese market. I see a lot more Hololive around than 2434

She was so big that everyone wants a piece of her and management wants to put her in everything too so they butchered and cloned the poor girl. what a fucking tragedy
RIP

>>5856594
One could say Hololive is a flash in the pan as well? If Gura was this magic grail for a newer audience then why have the EN vtubing groups(Tsunderia, MyHoloTV, PRISM, Eilene's group, etc.) all have less than 30k subs? In the end it's still the same over-satuarated market that it's always been, but the point wasn't if the fad would continue or not, but that it just suddenly became popular when the truth was it was popular, then the popularity waned down, not it's popular again. Seeing how Coco graduating severely hurt stock prices, once the Gura 'fad' winds down once her teenage fanbase goes to College, people who seriously invested into vtubing will get screwed over until a potential 3rd era of vtuber arises.

>>5856761
The clone shit was such a stupid idea, Upd8 could've just promoted their own vtubers through Kizuna's channel, but they waited too late to do that when they were in the spotlight
Now Hololive and Nijisanji has that "multiple vtuber earnings" Upd8 could've had

>>5856777
>Gura
>Fad
Kek, keep seething, dramafag. Your "MUH FINAL YABS" have all been nothingburgers. Go back to /pol/ and stay there.

>>5856594
You're a retarded. Vtuber is an industry since 2017 after Kizuna Ai appeared at the end of 2016.

And it wasn't hololive you fucker, it was Nijisanji and then hololive.

>>5856777
Kizuna became stagnate in subs and views years ago, meanwhile Hololive has been experiencing constant growth. Even if they slow down right this moment they can still coast for years before they're at the state Kizuna is right now. But unless Cover magically goes bankrupt or something I don't really see Hololive going stagnate to the same extent that Kizuna did, they have dozens of personalities which gives them a broader appeal, their streams are more in tune with modern zoomer steaming culture and their skits and memes are more dynamic. We'll probably all be dying in FEMA camps before Hololive fails.

>>5856887
An "industry" doesn't consist of one person, in 2017 Kizuna AI was more popular than every other vtuber combined and her relevance was rapidly falling. It wasn't until the rise of Hololive that indie vtubing became a legitimate way to make money instead of a hobby where you get a couple thousand subs max.

>>5856206
It's a snowball effect. Numbers attract numbers. It's like Lewlew driving the Merc.

And the real problem

>>5856669
NIJISANJI LITERALLY HAD THE ADVANTAGE. BUT THEY DIDN'T FUCKING CAPITALIZE ON IT.

Shouted out by Pewds, more clips back when Holo only had 3 Gens. And then came, Coco. They kept underestimating the overseas market until HoloEN came.

Their Ego's are so massive, they thought they could keep monopolizing Japan forever. and now Holo's are overtaking them. Can't wait for the news at the end of 2021.

>>5856579
anya is oppai loli, she doesn't count

>>5854119
nothing

>>5854119
>Now that Hololive is officially the face of vtubing

This title was more apparent 6 months ago. It's not about the total numbers, it's the growth rate.

>>5856836
>calling vtubing a fad is /pol/
This place really did a number on you. You need to take a break or something.

>>5857458
Yeah Niji is going to pass Gura any day now with their lightning fast growth rate.

>>5853878
Where do they get exact sub counts from anyway? I thought YT only reported in 10k increments at their level

>>5854119
This board name is going to change to /hlg/

>>5857737
I mean if you compare the top tier nijis to Gura it's not that far off. If she experiences a slowdown like Ai did then she could easily get passed

>>5853878
>>5853878
gwar gooruh lets goooooo

Gura is merciless.She keeps overtaking people just before they hit their milestones.

>>5857207
Lmao imagine actually believing on this tribalist shit. You guys are pathetic.

>>5858152
>tribalist shit
Yeah there are those but then there's the literal numbers that prove this, I mean like it or not that is a brief example of what basically happened.

>>5856777
>One could say Hololive is a flash in the pan as well?
Are you asking a question? Stop writing like a woman you retarded faggot.

>>5857144
>It's a snowball effect. Numbers attract numbers.
This is true but still not getting the whole truth. If there were nothing particularly special about Gura then other girls would have already managed to catalyze the same sort of snowball effect. She had to get the big curve to begin with.

>>5858084
>I mean if you compare the top tier nijis to Gura it's not that far off.
Aren't the top nijis far below the top 10 holos, let alone Gura who is nearly doubling the second place?

>If she experiences a slowdown like Ai did then she could easily get passed
She's fucking accelerating, anon, she just started off her music career with her first original and there are going to be more and better ones coming. When COVID ends she's going to fly out to Japan and then you'll see the real numbers, she hasn't even gotten 3D yet.

>>5858152
NTA but there is no guarantee that these companies will always be on top, just look at Ai. Hololive may overtake Niji in JP market or not in the future, maybe there will be a new company that will mog everyone including Ai.

>>5858508
Bro, it's very obviously the cunny which gives her easy access to the child demographic because Youtube is a children's platorm as well as the thinking man's demographic.

>>5854617
How wet will she be when it happens lol

>>5858152
Anon, we're not on 2019 or early 2020's anymore. Niji's have been declining while Holo is rising. wait for the news at the end of 2021, You're in for a rude awakening.

>>5858587
She'll probably have to take break to go on an ona-spree and get it all out of her system
Very wet

>the people raiding Fubuki's chat were chinks and /jp/ falselfaggers!
>ha ha let's do it again
chumcucks. Not even once.

>>5858152
Anon, we're not on 2019 or early 2020's anymore. Niji's have been declining while Holo is RISING on a terrific rate. wait for the news at the end of 2021, You're in for a rude awakening.

>>5854610
>>5853878
Based Gura reminding everyone that cuteness is the most valuable thing to humanity.

>>5858663

niji girls at best now have the sub rates holo top tier had in early 2020. holo has now tripled. if it wasnt for 1 or 2 male niji streamers they would be irrelevant by now. most nijis perform on the level or below a low tier holo now.

>>5853878
People care about Kizuna AI at this point?
Isn't the original actress/voice over gone, replaced with (multiple) different ones, and sold out to chinks and is now making bottom of the line, normie bait content?

>>5858812
Imagine not knowing shit and still posting about it.
You absolute retard.

>>5858832
Thank you for confirming I was right.

>>5858848
chumbud logic right there

>>5853878
Would it have been different if her company introduces generations or waves of new vtubers in the past?

>>5858867
It would have been different if the retards at upd8 were shitcanned sooner.

>>5858860
Yes.
And don't worry, I might pay rent one day.

>people shitting on ai-chan really were chumbuds all along
don't you have riggers to send death threats to?

>>5858654
>>5858955
t. SEAnigger

Didn't the ok boomer n belle dolphin song go somewhat mainstream before debut, not to mention the sub 1M on original account.

All that plus the cutesy model/memes on debut gave a huge initial boost in subs

>>5859121
Thought I was in a KFP thread for a sec. You people really are getting worse.

>>5859187

>>5854382
You can't be positive here Anon.

>>5854119
vtubing shit will stagnate again just like after 2018 with niggersanji ruining everything,

now prepare for 10 hour minecraft 10 hour apex, or doing fuck all reading superchat for 10 hours.
50% of the people don't even watch streams anymore (don't blame them most of them are unwatchable garbage) basicly everyone will only watch clips, and eventually theres gonna be clip channels that get up to 1 million views.

old style of vtubing is completly forgotten maybe except with eliene (shes the only one who still does the old style of short video skits)
and 10 hour streams are the only remaining

>>5854212
this,

gura destroyed the golden era of vtubing,
not only did she let all the normies in, she allowed cover to get noticed by so many other companies so now they are forced to forgo so many restrictions,

>>5854382
>kizuna ai
>establishing the bases for vtubing.

bitch she wasn't even among the first 100 vtubers.
only reason she got popular was due to the stupid AI jig that she pretended to be related to some google deepmind shit which was popular at the time

>>5854463
How many non-holo vtubers have 1 million+ subs? People who suddenly become one on their already successful account should only count growth after they started.

>>5860732
Eilene... it's time to let go. Your TTS always held you back. You never had a chance.

>>5860777
>how many non-holo vtubers have 1 mil+ subs
Zero.

>>5860777
Kizuna Ai
Kaguya Luna once upon a time

>>5854212
Are you really so daft you pretend Gura is the root of all evil? She's just as autistic as the rest of us.
The fault lies entirely with China and only bugmen sending death threats.

>>5854212
That would be Mori. after the meme review, Coco's manager scheduled for more collabs so Coco decided to just graduate instead

>>5860950
OK. You can't convince me this isn't true.

>>5854212
Imagine what vtubing could have been had Gura never applied to hololive.
We could have lived in so much better times.

>>5860950
>b-but she was just nervous anon
>she actually cares a lot about hololive trust me

>>5858553
>Hololive may overtake Niji in JP market or not in the future
They already have.

>>5861039

this but unironicly,
gura literally ruined hololive,
the reason why all the videos got deleted and they got public was due to gura's popularity and influence,
shes also the reason why twitter now has a huge group going after holos like matsuri for "pedophila" and people are trying to cancel them for reasons,
gura also let in a hugh amount of eops who don't know shit about hololive, and half of them shit up the subreddit to the point where it was unusable, one of the reasons why meme review was getting shitter and shitter,
then they migrate to vt turning this whole board is garbage.

>>5860910
Might have a point here. If the Chinese fans weren't so autistically subbing everything, EOP fans would have never found hololive, meaning the boom never happens, and VTubing is free from EOP cancer for a few more years.

>>5861111
>then they migrate to vt
this is even more true now that the fuckers keep posting the /vt/ sings over there
the quads confirm.

>>5861111
>YWNBJ

>>5861111
>subreddit
>meme review
You're part of the problem.

>>5861111
anon you forgot /vt/ was made due to the amount of Hololive/hololive global threads that was made in JP

>>5853878
both are worse than Pekora, who cares?

>>5861111
Mate, This board was made to contain the garbage. You were the problem all along. Don't blame some mildly successful vtuber when the problem was always there.

>>5853878
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBdnti4_UUg
This ended up being the theme song after all...

>>5861111
you are that desperate huh

>>5861111
>cancelling
>Japanese
unless someone is injecting marijuanas then Japan don't care

>>5854583
Do retards actually believe this?

>>5854212
>>5860709
>>5861039
>>5861111
imagine being this much of a jealous schizo

>>5861511
who?

>>5861911
They do, or pretend to.

>>5861911
Anon, that's the biggest recurring problem with Kizuna Ai. There's at least 1,000,000 people out there mentioning how Kizuna Ai got screwed over by having their VA replaced.

>>5857207
>>5858663
>wait for the news at the end of 2021
What am I supposed to expect?

>>5860887
What about that Blonde with green sex outfit? She never reached 1million?

>>5854212
ok zhang you fucking chink

>>5862268
No one other than Ai and Kaguya Luna ever made it past 1M subs.

>>5861911
the "VA change" meme becomes a non issue when you realize nobody cares about Ai anymore to even fact check

>>5862226
half of those on this board at least are just chumbuds pretending to be retarded to rile up Ai fans.

>>5861835

>>marine and miko forced to do 1 hour apologies for doujin maker

>>5862628
I would dare even argue that less than a quarter of the people on /vt/ actually believe that Kizuna Ai got replaced, and that it's just people larping/shitposting because it's the only way Kizuna Ai will have any discourse whatsoever.

>>5853878
Isn't AI Channel dead in the water anyway? I'm pretty sure most of her subs are just people who never bothered to unsub after the initial hype was over

>>5856594
What is this retarder revisionist history. Kizuna was pandering hard to EOPs with subtitled videos and getting good viewership up to the point when the clone fiasco happened. Clone fiasco is literally the only reason her channel is dead. Even if she wasn't replaced, people just stopped caring about her at that point.

>>5853878
And yet Ai-chan has done more for vtubing than any other vtuber
>B-but m-muh subscriber count
Kizuna Ai had to work her way up from when nobody had heard of vtubing. Gura's popularity, as well as the popularity of all of Hololive, can be attributed to Kizuna

>>5860732
Lol seethe faggot

>>5865433
>Kizuna Ai had to work her way up from when nobody had heard of vtubing.

HAHAHAHAHHA newfagchama.....
kizunai literally didn't do shit, her company booster her to 500,000 subs in the first week, she was marketed to be a real life ai at first, and multiple news sources were shilling for her when she first came out,
she was basicly just as bad as gura but on a smaller scale in 2016,

if you're gonna talk about some one who worked their way up when literally no one knew who vtubing was that would be eliene,
she was literally telling people from the vn and anime community about this new idea of virtual anime girl avatars way back since 2013 and consistently made videos from 2014 to today, and even has her own company nowdays,

>>5865889
kek I fucking knew it was you

>>5865770
lol i dunno whos seething.
you kizunafags are literally losing to some fucking retarded shark and im just eating popcorn watching the shitstorm.

>>5854824
>>sell out to chinks
Never happened
>>your own character gets replaced by a random soulless chinese woman (really goes to show that she had nothing going for her)
Never happened
>>forgotten and replaced
Hasn't happened
Get fucked

>>5865889
There are too many people who do not have a memory of pre 2020 Vtubing, not only here in VT, but more or less every other place.

>>5865889
>newfagchama
I've been watching vtubers since 2017
>she was marketed to be a real life ai at first, and multiple news sources were shilling for her when she first came out
None of this is true. Yeah part of her character is pretending to be an AI but everyone knew she wasn't actually an artificial intelligence
>if you're gonna talk about some one who worked their way up when literally no one knew who vtubing was that would be eliene
Literally who?

>>5865939
>Implying we're losing
Gura is a trend, Kizuna is eternal

If Eilene is still mad at being forgotten he shouldn't have been a TTS babi. That's just setting yourself up for failure.

>>5860950
I baleeb it

>>5865889
Eilene herself didn't even take Vtubing seriously until Kizuna and other Vtubing companies proved there was an actual profit in it.
If you was around her channel(s) during 17-19, you would know those channels were infested with clickbait nonsense.

>>5854119
Gura likes to keep to herself unlike Ai who's everywhere. It won't change a thing. However, Covid being somewhat less of a problem will affect the scene the most.

>>5861511
lmao

>>5854463
It's funny that Mori who didn't really care at first and just did this for shits and giggles is one of the most successful vtubers. Imagine having your life turned around one day because of a joke.

>>5854231
>>5855010
No woman wants that responsability.

>>5871287
Calli doesnt seem to have any self awareness so I doubt she understands how much serendipity and her own stupidity can play a role in success.

>>5856401
if management pulled this she was almost certainly let go for some cheaper VAs

>>5856206
My guess is that she got the buff from shark related searches and advertisement. it also explains why shartimis has any views at all.

>>5858564
I don't believe youtube will consider anime to be part of the childrens algorithm they almost certainly still employ

>>5872498
>shark related searches and advertisement.
wtf sharks are that popular? did Gura know this?

>>5872636
sharks have been shilled by the main stream for a decade now.

>>5872636
Shark are awesome.

>>5872636
Baby shark dance, the most watched video on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqZsoesa55w

>>5854395
once gura gets to 10 million she will be in the top 600 youtubers. Starting then, she'll get invited by youtube for things like creator spotlights (prominent female creators, ect). Large youtubers and twitch will also start frequently offerring collabs to mutally grow audiences. Expect a lot more eceleb collabs if she gets 10 million, at that point she'll be solidly on the map of youtube as a whole (and all the drama that comes with it).

>>5873120
why are you presenting nightmare scenarios?

>>5872636
Jaws is one of the top grossing movies of all time.

>>5873120
But too autistic to do much about it. Even now she barely collabs. Don't think she's all too comfortable with random people.

>>5854231

> Has such a degree of crippling social anxiety during her first year of vtubbing -if not even more- the only other holomem she talked to was Miko and only because they knew each other since junior high.
> Has gone on record to say she does not want nor cares about being the face of vtubing, even to her own company, and happily let Sora keep the reigns.

Yeah, you're retarded.

It is done

>>5872636
Shark Week is coming up. It starts Sunday July 11 to July 18.

>>5873528
Ok cool.
Now what?

>>5873579
3 million

>>5873579
now someone draw a continuation of this image

>>5873579
3M subs, 5M for reflect etc etc

>>5873542
I hope Gura does a watchlong for that Megalodon fake documentary or maybe The Meg

>>5873579
defeat pewdiepie in a few years

>>5873626
Chaos Reigns

>>5873626
Gura, you've slain a chuba so callously, so horribly... You truly are beyond redemption... I am sorry my daughter.

>>5874241
You can use this for when the next meme EN2 surpasses her.

>>5865889
>if you're gonna talk about some one who worked their way up when literally no one knew who vtubing was that would be eliene

That's a funny way of saying "Miko", Anon. The only vtuber who got fucked up twice BY HER OWN COMPANY, yet went viral on her own and its still somewhat relevant.

>>5866517

Neither of those statements are true. That's like saying Kiguya Luna is relevant (she isn't).

>>5856777
>One could say Hololive is a flash in the pan as well?
Only if you're a moron who doesn't understand what "flash in the pan" means.

>>5856836
>muh /pol/
rent free, nigger

>>5861911
Only retards deny this.

>>5854371
>It means, no more ESTUDIO ESPAÑOL because it has been proven that English is far more superior

Followed by

>It will further increase the saturation in ENvtuber market

Why are you such a colossal retard? English is superior, sure... but the market is ALREADY saturated to the point we have at least one new american vtuber debuting in youtube alone (daily if you count twitch).

WACTOR is the living proof that trying to start a company -poorly run company, but still- and cathering to the US is fucking pointless because hololive and nijisanji have literally 90% of the fucking cake and the other 10% is weekly fucking indies. The only reason WACTOR still exists is because they moved to lat am simps, and those guys simp like incels.

>>5862628
>Ai fans
what ai fans? do they even exist anymore? certainly not here

>>5871287
The way she was so unorthodox but still played the part only made her favours in that sense.

>>5878213
Rude

Ai should do the reverse Melody and become a camgirl

>>5877239
>Strawman argument
Not an argument

>>5872636