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She's gonna join VSHOJO isn't she??

>> No.5858715

>>5858703
no

>> No.5858764

>>5858703
She'll do Trash Taste first to get the word out of her identity to the people who are casuals. A little wink wink nudge nudge. Then they'll do some video collabs with her. Then she'll get even more followers. Then she'll appear in vshojo and do some collabs. Why join a group when you can bag most of the profits and only pay the govvie?

>> No.5858788

>>5858703
Literally Pokimane tier. Only uses the vtuber model when she's too lazy to put on any makeup.

>> No.5858789

>>5858703
I don't see why she needs to.
The loyal tatsunokos already follows her now.

>> No.5858826

>>5858703
Hell No.

>> No.5858839

>>5858703
>>5858764
Western shit is irrelevant.

>> No.5858909

>>5858839
Don't think she's above any of that.

>> No.5858967

>>5858703
>implying she can't make her own Vshoujo

>> No.5859004

>>5858703
it will be the best business decision lookig at her content, but i think she will go full independent, for what she said she values freedom over all else

>> No.5859023

>>5858703
I swear to God, this fucking thread shows up every other day, just fuck off already.

>> No.5859082
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5859082

>>5858703
>p-please I need to put her somewhere mentally
>s-she's a perfect fit for v-shoujo
>it can't just be over, IT SIMPLY CAN'T

Im sorry, anon, she won't stay your cute anime girl....

>> No.5859102

>>5859023
OP loves the (You)s. His other 10 threads are probably dead now maybe that's why he created this thread.

>> No.5859536

>>5858839
you hako-oshi fags are irrelevant

>> No.5859590

>>5858703
No reason for her to, but it wouldn't shocked me if she collabed with melody or anyone else she's been wanting to and not allowed.

>> No.5860000

>>5858703
I'm going to believe this rrat just to witness this board having the biggest meltdown yet

>> No.5860032
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>>5860000

>> No.5860040

>>5858703
mousy replies to a lot of kson tweets, don’t know what it means though

>> No.5860223

>>5858703
Joining Vshojo would have hilarious results.
Watch twitch instantly fucking ban her when she breaks any minor rule because the leftist troon pedophile furries running that place hate everything and everyone Japanese because in their worldview they're equivalent to white supremacists.
Twitch's moderation is only "better than youtube's" if you spout propaganda they agree with.

>> No.5860517

You guys don't understand kson is a Japanese YouTube who basically speaks English sometimes to spice things up for the japs?
Neither her nor Coco have ever done streams fully aimed at EOPs, so why the fuck would she join a EOP vtuber agency?

>> No.5860781

>>5858788
>Pokimane tier
Only the second most viewed female streamer worldwide. I hope she is joining Vshojo because if she joins hololive management i have to unmember every holo i follow.

>> No.5860981

What are the chances of her using her freedom to promote and work with various groups? she seemed motivated towards trying to promote the creation of new groups in holo and promoting other girls.

as a solo artist would she not maybe be doing the same sort of thing?

just going off what she's said before it seems like she has a plan of some kind, and seems passionate about the medium.

>> No.5861077

>>5858703
She is smart enough not to sell out to Melody. But Melody will still get a collab out of her eventually.

>> No.5861100

>>5860517
going of what mel and the others said its more like a support staff type of thing the deal with vshojo handling all the cooperate shit and the talents do whatever they like with no oversite my rrat is she join to push vshojo JP branch with her at the head with full control of said branch

>> No.5861124

>>5860223
meddies

>> No.5861487

>>5858703
More likely to create A new persona with no baggage, but gets a lot of traction from well known tubers

>> No.5861554

>>5860000
Quads...

>> No.5861642

>>5858703
>most successful vtuber who left the most successful vtuber group because she was being held back is going to join D tier company

lol

>> No.5861741

>>5860000
Nice quads. Now let me see your delts.

>> No.5861769

>>5861642
The old adage for such a situation is “You can’t fix stupid”.

>> No.5861836

>>5858764
afaik vshojos aren't forced to pay anything to their management. And the word "management" is barely relevant.

>> No.5861842

>>5860223
Take your based pills, king.

>> No.5861895
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>>5858703
Why would she join a different company when she has the capital and the knowledge to start her own and not have to answer to anybody?

>> No.5863142

>>5858703
>>5861895
This here. My bets are all on either going full indie or starting her own small group.

>> No.5865432

>>5861895
> People really thinks that chuubas are sleeping on cash big enough to start their own companies.

No, really. She may have enough cash to comfortably live for a year or two, but considering that she was also pulling her own, indie thing(which for sure was taking more cash than making, trust me it's not cheap), her stash of money is in fact rather miniscule.
Also worth nothing, usually western people in Japan have hard time to get permanent citizen rights and NEED to find proper job. She's probably currently on very thin ice and will grab whatever there will be. Expect Kson becoming VA guest for anime or advertisement model or anything just to stay afloat lol

>> No.5865560

>>5865432
She could always go back to the US. Still, I suspect she planned this.

>> No.5865640

>>5858703
What makes you think she'll start making english content? Kson barely speaks english even with her chat being full of eops

>> No.5866188

>>5865432
One, you severely underestimate how much coco made, two, you severely overestimate how much money making a vtuber agency costs, most of the agencies you see don't even have a real office

>> No.5866689

>>5865432
If only she had the right connections at SEGA to appear as herself in the next Yakuza game.

It won't be Coco, but everyone will know who it is, complete with the Adidas on.

>> No.5867508

>>5858703
she'll probably remain independent. She already has a big audience and everyone knows who she is.

>> No.5867593
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>>5865432
>She may have enough cash to comfortably live for a year or two
All the numbers i'm gonna talk about have youtube cut and cover cut, of course, but it still gives a glimps of the revenue she made in 2020 and 2021.
>>/jp/thread/S35278386#p35280285
And this is just the first days of her last batch of merch, she's already over 1 million after cuts and taxes with superchats alone, and she's leaving with over 15k+ memberships, the majority of them have 1 year badges, just consider for a moment how much is 12 months of 10k membrships, each at 5$, her leaving with over 2 million dollars is not out of the realm of possibility at all.
Also, in case you didn't know, Kson's last member-only community post has 2.4k likes, that means at the very least 3k memberships.
That's 10.000$ per month after the youtube cut.

I have no idea what her plans for the future are, nobody truly does, but money is never going to be an issue for a hikki neet like her ever again, she already explained she only spends 1.500$ per month.

>> No.5867627

>>5860781
>if she joins hololive management
Not happening, she's gone for good.

>> No.5869768

>>5865432
>No, really. She may have enough cash to comfortably live for a year or two
If the top earning V-tuber in superchats can only bank enough money to live comfortably for two years, then being a V-tuber is an even more cucked profession than being an idol.

>> No.5869844

>>5858703
This would put the stalkers on overdrive.

>> No.5869901

>>5860040
Mousey stalks any big vtubers' tweets, bit idk what that means.

>> No.5870536
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5870536

>>5860517
What? are you telling me the people who used to call her vshojo never actually watched her and know nothing about her or her content? I mean you still have retards like >>5859004 who are still clueless to this day.
EOPs thinking they are important are one of the best things about this board, it's so funny to read the delusions some of you write.

It's like a 7th year old child trying to explain how a disease works to a physician.

>> No.5870547

>>5860040
I think it just means shes a big fan of her content

>> No.5870818

>>5861895
What if she does start her own company. A Japanese branch of VShojo

>> No.5870821

>>5865432
>She may have enough cash to comfortably live for a year or two

Have you seen her numbers?
She made enough to live comfortably for life unless she's financially illiterate and spends thousands of $ each week

>> No.5871086

>>5870536
>It's like a 7th year old child trying to explain how a disease works to a physician.
What the fuck are you talking about, retard? Watching you is like watching a mentally ill monkey roleplay as a physician, when you aren't even as smart a seven year old.

>> No.5871109

>>5858715
Basically this. Vshojo did collabs with Kizuna Ai.

>> No.5871171

>>5858839
Coco is western shit you stupid mongrel

>> No.5871261

I unironically hope she joins Nijisanji.

>> No.5871331

>>5871261
after that shitstorm?

>> No.5871893

>>5858703
>makes it clear she isn't joining anybody else and is done with the vtubing
>fags keep making these kinds of threads
You need to move on. Even if she was always on their level, it isn't happening

>> No.5872341 [DELETED] 

>>5865432
Nope, she just recently said to not worry, because she's pretty stable financially. I mean she fucking earns more than her company's CEO annually by more than a 100M yen gap (possibly larger). Lmao

>> No.5872382

>>5871171
t. I only watch clips of her speaking english

>> No.5872836

>>5865432
>Also pulling her indie thing.
No that wasn't for money anon. She mostly streams there for her old fans, and just doesn't want to abandon her old channel fully. And now that she's set on graduating, she pumped her content up a bit.

>Money is rather miniscule, only enough for a year or two. And is in a thin ice to find a proper job.
No, she recently said in her stream, that she's financially stable (I mean she earns more than her CEO by a huge margin annually lmao), and considering how popular she is, she might have a fuckton of job offers coming her way.

>> No.5872865

>>5858703
she said she isn't planning on joining another vtuber agency, she might start her own tho because she said she wanted to make something even bigger than yagoo.

>> No.5872906

>>5860781
Just wait till the EN2 manager is called C-chan, then you can BTFO, nigger.

>> No.5873148

>>5872836
>Don't worry guys, I already have a vision on what I'll do for the future
It's pretty unlikely she'll accept any of those job offers then. I'm just glad for her, and wish her all the best.

>> No.5873289

I can't wait to see this thread again tomorrow

>> No.5873371

>>5858764
she can't. She already said she's bound by contract to never be able to reveal her identity or talk about Hololive at all.

>> No.5873386

who the fuck is coco and why do you people keep bringing her up in kson discussion threads

>> No.5873575

can't wait for the surprise anti-holo fags will experience when they finally watch a KSON stream and start complaining that she's nothing like coco.

>> No.5874114

>>5873575
I really wonder how disappointed everyone will be when coco reveals whatever her future big project is, everyone is having unrealistic expectations

>> No.5874458

fuckin koikatsu model lol

>> No.5874598

>>5870818
If it was fully autonomous but still technically under the same umbrella I could maybe see that work. A Japanese focused "sister agency" that gets to abuse US fair-use copyright law, gets their name out in the west by association, but doesn't interact much at all due to language separation.

>> No.5875028

>>5873371
it doesn't mean she has to be explicit about anything.
She could just start getting her name out there and letting people put 2 and 2 together from her voice and mannerisms.

>> No.5875157

>>5860781
>because if she joins hololive management i have to unmember every holo i follow.
Why?

>> No.5875209

God with how long this bitched tongue is, I bet her head game is amazing.

>> No.5875356

>>5875209
>head game
that tongue is made for one thing and it aint dicks

>> No.5875376

>>5861642
A D-tier company that still has Vtubers that are way more popular than any indie, and still allow for the freedom to do whatever the fuck you want.

>> No.5875601

>>5872382
She was born in america, and lived there until she was 11.
Also, all over the Kson channel there are american flags.

>> No.5875644

>>5872906
How about K-san?

>> No.5875698

>>5858703
It would be the first time I will seethe badly and betray her.

>> No.5875752

>>5858967
We already have PPP

>> No.5876022

>>5858703
No.

>> No.5876289

Actually, I'm going to join Vshojo

>> No.5876907

>>5876289
Cool. What's your lore.

>> No.5878970
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>>5860000

>> No.5879926

>>5873371

> She already said she's bound by contract to never be able to reveal her identity or talk about Hololive at all.

From what I remember, she emphasized "by NAME." She can't say "I was Coco", but she can say "I was a dragon." But you might be right, dunno.

>> No.5880032

>>5861836
Well yeah, they're paying them like contracted managers/reps, they're not management.

>> No.5880062

>>5858703
Nope, she has 500k followers on her own and probably more to come after shit cools down and she goes more active.

>> No.5880135

>>5865432
Source: The voices in the mirror

>> No.5880159

>>5858703
who is this cute indie?

>> No.5880160

>>5872906
Newest EN mane-chan will be Bug-chan.

>> No.5880217

>>5861642
Vshojo is only a "D tier" company in the minds of holosharts. In reality, they pull great numbers, beating all the least popular holos, while having way more freedom and keeping a bigger share of the money they receive.

>> No.5880225

>>5875356
She's mentioned back in 2018 in an interview that she had an ex boyfriend and also mentioned she had a current boyfriend at that time. Rrats have said she's bi but she's proven to liking the D.

>> No.5880264

why is vshojo the always go-to for theses scenarios? why not Nijisanji?

>> No.5880379

>>5865432
>she's going to start doing JAV

>> No.5880729

>>5872382
>>5858839
You will never lose your virginity to a Jap.

>> No.5883670

>>5880264
Why would she go to the company that just had one of their biggest vtubers graduate because of stalkers and is still run by old Japanese men in suits, like all Japanese companies?

>> No.5883714

>>5883670
Why would se go to Vshojo when the vast majority of her audience was always been Japanese?

>> No.5883807

>>5883714
>the vast majority of her audience was always been Japanese?
She has the highest EOP rate of hololive.

>> No.5883836

>>5883807
Lol, not even close.

>> No.5883867

>>5883836
Hololive JP, not your english whores.

>> No.5883909

>>5883867
Did i stutter? Korone, Pekora, Aki & Towa all have a higher % of EOPs in their chat.

>> No.5884018

>>5883909
lol Korone I could buy but I call bullshit on the rest.

>> No.5884078

>>5883714
She quit because Japanese companies are run by old dinosaurs that keep them on a leash and doesn't give her the freedom that she wants plus all those times the management fucked up. She's either gonna do something on her own or work with another company that gives her total control on how she wants to do her content. No way she's working for another antiquated Japanese agency.

>> No.5884084
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>>5884018

>> No.5884445

would be funny if it turns out Kson is not even Coco's roommate

>> No.5884652

>>5884445
Retarded newfag, fuck off.

>> No.5884729

>>5884084
The methodology there is analyzing messages in chat, you know the chat that was heavily moderated and made into member's only occasionally because of a certain incident, not actually breaking down the viewers by country. That is a junk data that has no correlation to the actual demographics of viewers and is also from reddit to boot and using flawed methodology (as evidence of this, the guy who made that didn't even include meme reviews because reasons).

>> No.5884859

>>5884652
what?

>> No.5884928

>>5879926
Yes. From what I've read, an NDA can stop you from saying who you worked for or specifically what you did but saying "i worked as a dragon in the past" is probably alright. She probably can't say Hololive/Cover/Coco but you're allowed to make vague references to past work.

>> No.5884939

>>5873371
Nothing could stop her. She just has to say "good morning motherfuckers" in her Coco voice, and everyone will figure shit out instantly. She doesn't have to mention Hololive to talk about her personal vtubing experience, or maybe about things she did outside of that, she has a rich history of cosplay and shit.

>> No.5884978
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>>5884729
% of supas by location, from 7 months ago (around the same time as the other image, give or take a month).
Blue is Japan, Red is North America, Yellow is Asia, Green is Europe, Orange is Australia, Light Blue is South America, Purple is Russia, green-yellow is Northern Europe, and dark blue is India.
Groupings:
Members with the most foreign comments
(JP) Members with the highest percentage of foreign SCs
Overseas members

>> No.5885067

>>5867593
>she already explained she only spends 1.500$ per month.
She's just like me! I work a regular job and have tens of thousands in savings because of my poverty lifestyle, I can't imagine making millions and living on rice and beans.

>> No.5885132

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJGdYNU_zeo

>> No.5885164

>>5874114
I bet it's an Adidas knock-off merch line for Kson

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>>5885132
>this video is age-restricted

>> No.5885325

>>5885164
Nah, she just wears the same sweaty shorts for 6 months straight

>> No.5885380

>>5884978
I would think by now, Ina has probably gained more Japanese viewers compared to other regions. Still not sure how she had the lowest JP audience from the get-go though.

>> No.5885419

>>5885325
yeah but her fans don't
she could sell a lot

>> No.5885450

>>5884939

> Nothing could stop her.

Nothing is stopping her already. She has 500 k followers and that's growing as more and more people realize she's Coco (it's not really that hard, desu).

Literally everyone worth his or her salt already fucking knows and made the jump.

>> No.5886060

>>5884978
lol, that image already contradicts your previous claims. That first chart ranks Coco third with the most foreign comments. Also SCs (like comments) are again, not an indication of viewership. Coco is the top SC earner in that period- of course Japanese people will make up most of it. Much like how you claim Pekora (another top SC earner) has more overseas viewers but does not appear in any of those charts. More junk data. Only the real raw viewer demographics by country is an acceptable source of data in determining how many foreign viewers vtubers get.

>> No.5886270

>>5858839
Coco is literally American.

>> No.5886359

>>5886270
>shes american so she must join vshojo its the vtuber law
ogey

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>>5886060
>Only the real raw viewer demographics by country is an acceptable source of data in determining how many foreign viewers vtubers get.
Well, Coco did show her viewer demographics by country once, although I can't find it for some reason.

>> No.5886395

>>5886060
Yeah they weren't made by the same person. Personally I would've just included all streams and not cherry picked shit (excluding any collabs excludes a lot of the Minecraft streams and is bs in general). Based on my own experiences of watching Coco, she does tend to have more JP comments during her gaming streams.

>> No.5886590

>>5886060
Also I only posted the two images and >>5886395, Pekora does have a large JP audience

>> No.5886599

>>5884978
And this is why the people who think she'll join vshojo have no idea what they're talking about, Coco's core audience, especially her gachikois, have always been japanese, she got huge thanks to asacoco and she only started subbing it around the end of april 2020 when she was already a top vtuber in the industry.
Her roommate fanbase is also amost entirely japanese.

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>>5883714
HEY YOU KNOW FUCKING WHAT AT LEAST VSHOJO DOESN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH CREEPY ASS HARASSERS AND STALKERS ON THEIR ASSES 24/7 TO THE POINT THEY HAVE MENTAL BREAKDOWNS AND CONSIDER LEAVING FOR THEIR SAKE. WHEN AN INDIE VTUBER GROUP HAS BETTER WAYS OF DEALING WITH THIS SHIT THAN THOSE JAP FUCK SUITS AT COVER AND ICHIKARA, THAT'S INEXCUSABLE. SO YEAH I FUCKING THINK COCO GOING TO VSHOJO IS A SAFER BET. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE SHE OPENLY WANTED TO DO MORE BUT COVER WOULDN'T LET HER, YOU RETARDED BOOTLICKING ASSHOLE.

>> No.5886707

>>5886368
She was very popular in Japan, US, and wait what was it again? Trinidad?

>> No.5886845

>>5885067
She's not the only holo like that, many of them (almost all the ones that weren't utaites) are also hikkis who just want to play vidya, none of them really need that much money in the first place.

>> No.5886924

>>5886661
>AT LEAST VSHOJO DOESN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH CREEPY ASS HARASSERS AND STALKERS ON THEIR ASSES 24/7 TO THE POINT THEY HAVE MENTAL BREAKDOWNS AND CONSIDER LEAVING FOR THEIR SAKE
Oh, they absolutely do. They get harassed by the same kind of people who harass Kiara on Twitter. It's not as coordinated as what Coco had to go through of course, but it's always there, that's just the nature of the ridiculously autistic and perpetually asshurt vtuber community.

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>>5886661
Look, i understand why you felt the need to reply like that because virtually everyone here is an EOP who tries to fit in by hating Vshojo.
I actually don't, i was just stating the very obvious fact that Coco's audience and her gachikois are Japanese.
I mean, have any of you ever watched her streams outside of meme review? she speaks a couple of phrases in english per stream at best, literally 95-97% of her content is in Japanese.

>> No.5886958

she literally said she'll never be affiliated with another agency

>> No.5886964

>>5858703
I wish

>> No.5886979

>>5858703
I would kneel. I hate VShojo but Cover really has it coming, and maybe her joining VShojo will mean no more Holo-VShojo collabs? The ultimate "fuck you" to Cover.

>> No.5886990

>>5886936
Most of her fans are from SEA and south america

>> No.5887037

>>5886990
Sure anon, whatever you say.
Have you ever browser the twitter tags for discussion about her current streams? all the tweets are in japanese if you ignore the chink spam.

>> No.5887080

vshojo is bland and has close to zero personality. I'd be sad if she joins vshojo

>> No.5887101

>>5886958
And Yogiri said she wouldn't reincarnate.

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5887136

Kson and Melody are going to collab on Chaturbate

>> No.5887155

>>5887101
And Nobuhime

>> No.5887239

>>5887136
your mother and i are going to collab on chaturbate

>> No.5887263

>>5886936
>I actually don't, i was just stating the very obvious fact that Coco's audience and her gachikois are Japanese.
I agree. The stats show that the participating members in Coco's streams are at least 3:1 Japanese:English, if not 5:1 or more. Sure, I can believe some large fraction of viewers don't participate, and that that nonparticipants would skew foreign because of language barrier issues, but so strongly skewed that it would overcome that ratio is a big stretch.

>> No.5887304

>>5886936
Looks like Coco is joining Nijisanji then LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.5887717

>>5858703
According to a lunatic at /vt/, a Niji graduates to join Hololive. A Holo graduates to go to Vshojo?? By that logic Vshojo >> Nijisanji!? Vshojo > Hololive?!

>> No.5887767

>>5887717
thats not how anything works
go back to your death battle threads with your retarded logic

>> No.5887807

>>5875157
Given how bad Hololive's management treated Coco over the last 8 months, for her to turn around and join in any position other than as an executive officer would be proof that Hololive is every bit the exploitative black company the rrats say.

>> No.5887824

>>5858703
why throw herself in with these skanks when she has half a million subs on her mostly inactive channel already. nothing to gain

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>>5886368
>>5886707
It's Japan, USA, Taiwan, Philippines and then Indonesia. Most of her viewers outside from Japan and US is from SEA. She had 50/50 split in viewers between Japan and overseas; Coco around this time was pulling in crazy views and SCs so that 50% is huge.

>> No.5887867

>>5886936
Has Coco ever gone into detail about her audience breakdown by country? That would be really interesting to see the google analytics for.

>> No.5887871

>>5887767
If you don't believe /vt/ is giant clusterfuck of tribal Death Battles, you haven't been looking around tourist. Unity fags are are a rarity drowned by the consistent war drum.

>> No.5887885

>>5887304
Hahaha Nichi is just as bad when it comes to policing their creator's content. If she's joining anybody it's Tsunderia.

>> No.5887929
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>>5886936
It doesn't matter how much you hate Vshojo, they are still a better alternative than Nijisanji or VOMS. Wanna know why? Idol culture bs won't fuck her over there, better mods to take care of spam, creative freedom, and one of the members is her fucking irl friend. After what happened with Coco, Lulu, and Aloe, there's no point trying to refute this.

>> No.5887952

>>5865432
>NEED to find proper job

At this point Coco almost certainly qualifies for the independent employment visa. Their standards are pretty strict, you need to demonstrate that you've made quite a bit of money over a long period of time, but she's almost certainly done that by now.

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>>5887929
She already has half a million subs retard why would she even need vshojo.

>> No.5888128

>>5887867
>Has Coco ever gone into detail about her audience breakdown by country?
See >>5887837
Japan
United States of America
Taiwan (yabe!)
Philippines
Indonesia

She got in trouble with the CCP for mentioning Taiwan

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>>5887837
That image alone caused so much fucking shit, it has a certain powerful aura. Just look at that chat, they're completely innocent and clueless to what just happened, like in the first episode of that Chernobyl show. Hell, I was there, watching that live, and I only figured out what I saw the next day, when the first announcements came in. Things were never the same.

>> No.5888221

>>5887837
That's 10 month old data though does it still hold true for June

>> No.5888222

>>5887929
Twitch mods are orbiters given a position of power. Idol culture can't touch Twitch streamers because every chat is a hug box where even constructive critics are just haters. That failing, mods will put chat into subscriber only, if the orbiters get overwhelmed.

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>>5887929
>VOMS
>idol culture

>> No.5888229

>>5888065
Nyanners has 1.2 million. Plus she openly said she wanted to collaborate with Melody.

>> No.5888257

>>5888222
So you're saying that zhang would be powerless

>> No.5888563

>>5888257
Sorry, I looked into this. Twitch has the Local Subscription Pricing program and China/Taiwan is onboard. for example a Tier 1 sub in Mexico costs 48 pesos (equivalent to about $2.40), while the price in Turkey is set at 9.90 lira (equivalent to about $1.19).

This is the same thing that happened with Coco's chat on YouTube. Zhang could buy a tier 1 Twitch sub for 50 cents and flood Kson's chat anyways.

>> No.5888602

>>5888221
It's more valid than analyzing SCs and comments during the same time period and somehow extapolating the viewers' nationality through dubious connect the dots methodology. Viewership demographics doesn't really change drastically unless something drastic happened, if anything the trend for every Hololive vtuber from this point is an increase in overseas viewership.

>> No.5888605

>>5888229

She doesn't have to join Vshojo to collab with Melody, or anyone else for that matter.

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>>5886661
>>5887929
Spam is no longer an issue on either her mildom or youtube channels, she's got the same VPN ban Coco got months ago.

>> No.5889930

>>5865432
Lmao, she only earned a "miniscule" amount to last her a year or two my ass.

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>>5858703
A collab? Maybe.
Actually joining? Not a fucking chance.
The scope of her ambition cannot be contained by Vshojo.

>> No.5891263

>>5876907
i suck dick

>> No.5891330

>>5884084
I'm surprised Subaru doesn't have more EN viewers.

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>>5858703
Coco wishes she was on VSHOJO's level.
ironmouse is probably one of the most entertaining vtubers period. And she got there through her own skills, not relying on fubuki and pekora to carry a brand name for her,

>> No.5891687
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5891687

>>5858703
No.
>>5891648
ogey

>> No.5891707

>>5875601
I know, but this isn't about that you retard. It's about her audience, which is mainly compromised by nips.

>> No.5891750

>>5891263
You're hired. Suck mine first.

>> No.5893169

>>5884084
Didn't Coco literally get in trouble for showing her Youtube statistics that showed she had 52% JP subs vs 48% foreign?

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>>5860000
AHHHHHH

>> No.5893690

>>5875356
>falling for the corporate yuribait
the absolute state of /u/schizos

>> No.5893748

>>5887929
>VOMS
>nijisanji
>idol culture
let's play the game of "bait or newfag"

>> No.5893905

>>5885189
She doesn't have a manager that filters her contents, so...

>> No.5894722

>>5860000
basado
coco will reveal her true colors

>> No.5897621

Bro cut it out she's going back to college and moving on. This chapter of her life has ended and we are not part of the next chapter of her story. Grow up bro.

>> No.5897671

>>5872836
>>(I mean she earns more than her CEO by a huge margin annually lmao)

What kind of a moron are you to believe Yagoo earns way less than any of his top entertainers? Yagoo has shares in Cover corp and takes at least a 50k-150k USD salary every month. Most of the profits by his talents are swallowed by him.

>> No.5897679

>>5887929
>>5886661
>/v/-tier reaction images
>vshoujo faggotry
get out tourist

>> No.5897774

>>5893169
>Taiwan

>> No.5897825 [DELETED] 

Even if she makes enough to live a modest life in peace, she has to live with her dreams being ruined cause of bad management. Money can't fix that.

>> No.5898254

>>5897825
Anon, the reason she's leaving is so her dreams can come true. She's only beginning.

>> No.5898344

>>5858703
She'll go back to doing what she did before Hololive. She'll stream every so often with her 3D avatar but mostly IRL on her independent channel.

>> No.5898376

>>5860223
Do... do you have a single brain cell left, anon?

>> No.5898483

>>5897621
take your meds

>> No.5900816

>>5873371
>She already said she's bound by contract to never be able to reveal her identity or talk about Hololive at all
That's not true. She just said on her superchat reading yesterday that she would have vtuber experience on her resume.

>> No.5903101

>>5858703
she could buy vshojo my dude, she's going indie if anything or maybe pretend to be part of someone idk

>> No.5903287

>>5858703
You are the worst fanbase of /vt/. Yes, even moreso than Beatanifags.

>> No.5903408

Why would she join another company? If anything she has the capital, the know how, and the experience from cover to make her own company if she wanted to. It would yield better results too. Though she's going to stay indie.

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>>5858703
I wish her all the best

>> No.5904983 [DELETED] 

>>5858703
I'm holding off on buying merch because I am worried about her doing something like that.

>> No.5905443

>>5887807
For her to turn around, join management and try to make it better for other members behind the scenes? Your implying if she joins management she is automatically a stick in the mud that wont let members do anything creative

>> No.5905488

>>5888225
Didnt a voms member get banned for smoking weed

>> No.5905497

>>5904905
I HATE THIS BITCH
i cant fuck

>> No.5905555

so, what companies do you think will try to poach her?

>> No.5905769

>>5905488
We don't know why she was fired but any job will fire you over that in japan because they're legally required to if you haven't been charged yet

>> No.5906008

>>5860000
Why meltdown? She clearly belongs there. I bet vshojo learned a few of their tricks from her, too.

>> No.5906038 [DELETED] 

>>5906008
VShojo is awful, that's why.

>> No.5906078

>>5872906
oh yeah, they drove her to tears and kicked her out just to promote her. How retarded are you?

>> No.5906179

https://tokyogirlsupdate.com/kson-streamer-niconico-201805138587.html

she had a boyfriend. she's quitting vtubing because she's pregnant

>> No.5906353

>>5906179
Bird-kun…

>> No.5906414

>>5906038
how is it awful? does it try to please CCP by killing off their own vtubers?

>> No.5906528

>>5906414
Didnt cover shut down cn?

>> No.5907023

>>5906528
yes, after CN basically went rogue. So?

>> No.5907168

>>5907023
You think that pleased the ccp

>> No.5907583

>>5907168
it was forced, I'm sure Cover didn't want to throw away all the investment, but it was decided for them by the rogue talent

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>>5906179
i wish

>> No.5919402

>>5906179
>I-i had a boyfriend in a-america 10 years ago i swear
lmao

>> No.5919680

>>5912901
what would Abe-san's vtuber group be like?

>> No.5919844

>>5919402
I bet he was tall and handsome and rich, oh but he got drafted and died in the war. What a shame.

>> No.5923823

>>5919844
He died during the Tomato Town massacre... very sad.

>> No.5925341

>>5887101
Wait, who is she now?

>> No.5925713

>>5919680
All Aloe

>> No.5926765

>>5875356
Rimjobs

>> No.5931668

>>5905488
Smoking weed or doing drugs in general tends to have you purged from any job, it's considered worst that rape and murder for some reason.

>> No.5931738

>>5893169
It was more like because Youtube has Taiwan as a country and she mentioned it as such which triggered tons of bugs.

>> No.5931866

>>5884084
This thing is old, Subaru has increased to more that 23% EN viewers.

>> No.5932325

>>5884084
Towa....

>> No.5932338

>>5860517
op is a troll don't respond

>> No.5932585

>>5884978
>risu has the most european viewers

>> No.5932697

>>5886599
all of these "coco join vshojo"
are all done by cumfags who keep ranting about the "holy trinity" and constantly hate on kiara, ollie, mori and coco.

>> No.5932781

>>5860223
remember to take your meds the next time you post!

>> No.5932792

>>5884939
>in her Coco voice
Thats literally her voice. That's just how she sounds.

>> No.5935473

Why she is not streaming right now?

>> No.5935594

>>5931668
I kind of want someone to just publicly tell their version of cancel culture to fuck off.

>> No.5935615

She'll join VOMS

>> No.5935758

>>5860223
other replies are retarded, you’re right and they’re seething

>> No.5935958

>>5906179
>Kson- Actually, my ex-boyfriend used to play Ryū ga Gotoku but I was just looking at when he was playing it. Even though there’s a ton of substories in Ryū ga Gotoku, he only plays the main story and gets it over with quickly.
>After we broke up, I was really curious about those substories so I ended up getting it for myself and start playing. Then I totally hooked up with the world of Ryū ga Gotoku.
AHAHAHAHAHA ex-boyfriend got cucked by Kiryu Kazuma

>> No.5936051

>>5932792
I mean more precisely it's got emphasis for streaming, like we all sound different on the phone etc so people's views on "natural voice" are a bit silly, but it is certainly her natural streaming voice (she sometimes adds more Mickey mouse for emphasis)

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I'm smiling and you should to.

>> No.5936745

>>5865432
Her parents are both Japanese and live in Japan. She should have dual citizenship

>> No.5936882

>>5936524
so what did she write?

>> No.5936926

>>5935958
She realized 2D is superior to 3D

>> No.5937065

Why do you faggots like Coco so much anyway she was always an irritating piece of shit whore, good riddance

>> No.5937130

>>5937065
Still butthurt for getting kicked out from NGA eh zhang??

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>>5936882
Get her membership, fag.

>> No.5937280

>>5937150
>ksonbros are more reliable than fandeads when it comes to leaking member posts
how does Rushia cope

>> No.5937290

>>5860223
trannies seething at this post

>> No.5937426

>>5860223
waito piggu go home

>> No.5937458

>>5937280
They leak them out of love anon

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>>5937280
justice for rushia

>> No.5937662 [DELETED] 

>>5937544
Faggot

>> No.5937758 [DELETED] 

>>5937544
>leaking even more just to cope
so this is the power of fandeads

>> No.5937804 [DELETED] 

>>5937758
I regretted it... rushia wouldn't have wanted me to do that...

>> No.5937953 [DELETED] 

>>5937758
You fucked up by replying to the post, delete it.

>> No.5938605

>>5935958
Well, it's Kiryu Kazuma. What can you do about it?

>> No.5939350

>>5937544
translate weeb

>> No.5939428

>>5875601
>Kson channel there are american flags.
Holy cucked

>> No.5939475

>>5884084
What's with Towa's demographics

>> No.5939544

>>5939475
Westerners are from Faustian Civilization and cannot stop selling their soul to Towa ever since ancient times

>> No.5939561

>>5858703
would be nice

>> No.5939598

>>5884084
Holy shit Botan truly got the slavs on her side. RU Duolinggo when?

>> No.5939629

>>5858703
No, seems that she only want to stay indie

>> No.5939633

>>5858703
As soon as she goes back to the US which is never

>> No.5939654

>>5858703
If she and Delta collab, it would be kino

>> No.5939677

>>5873371
But it would be obvious it was her just by watching her on Trash Taste

>> No.5939694

>>5884084
>>5939598
Must be the Adidas dress. 3D Botan slavsquatting when?

>> No.5939739

>>5858703
she'd fit in very well with all the VShoujo degenerates.

>> No.5939762

>>5872906
>ggage, but gets a lot of traction from well known tubers
You havent been watching the steams, have you clipnig?

>> No.5939853

>>5939694
Soon after playing STALKER 2

>> No.5940088

>>5858764
So, like Snuffy?

>> No.5940130

just look at kson's twitter
she's following the 'core' lineup of vshojo (mel, nyanners, etc) and the vshojo ceo, gunrun.

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>>5860000
QUADS DE LA VERDAD

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>>5884084
>Tries her hardest to get an EOP audience
>Still only attracts nips
What's she doing wrong?

>> No.5942889

>>5858703
Though she'd probably fit in well, considering that she's outright said she appreciates her japanese fans most of all, she'll never go to a primarily english speaking demographic.

>> No.5942989

>>5939598
she said she can't cause there's no JP>RU duolingo pair apparently

>> No.5943186

>>5897671
>Most of the profits by his talents are swallowed by him
Most of the profits are swallowed by the massive bureaucracy of managers and directors behind the screen that are largely pointless but also well paid.

>> No.5943220

>>5942177
There's more words in the english language than "hey" "guys" and "faq"

>> No.5943343

I thought she said she might call it quit on this vtuber thing. She wanted to be a manager in the first place.

>> No.5943369

>>5942177
>Tries her hardest
No? 95% of her content is in Japanese.

>> No.5944178

>>5943343
She wanted to be her own manager and the manager of her gen at the same time.

>> No.5944719

>>5942177
What is miko doing to get english viewers?

>> No.5944911

>>5942177
95% of her content is japanese, of which, 75% of it is broken japanese, her 5% remaining is english, which of that, 100% of it is broken english

>> No.5944952

>>5939475
the graph is old as balls and Towawawawawa had some yabs which made her less popular among jps
so en saviourfags hopped in as they do

>> No.5945493

>>5886599
Her hangup with hololive seems to be with management and not being allowed to do what she wants to do creatively - which is one of the stated goals of Vshojo, quote: "we aim to create and foster content that pushes the boundaries of VTubing and talent freedom".

The reasoning (the logical one at least) is that she might want that kind of environment if she wanted to stay a vtuber and work with a company to help promote her. This line of reasoning is never predicated on her core audience having any sort of overlap with Vshojo, those core Japs would still follow her wherever she goes and bring their yen with them.

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>>5858703
She isn't Coco
>live streamed at the same time as kiryu
>both had live chats running separate from each other
She's gone, bros.

>> No.5946942

>>5858764
Do you realize that most trash taste guests are related and somehow relevant to a given topic within the anime/japanese/youtuber sphere?

At this moment, she's not relevant. What makes her relevant is her ties with Coco and Hololive, but she can't talk about that. She's not related to anime, she's not really relevant to japanese youtubing or even to japanese culture. And what's more, TT is a part of the Kadokawa marketing "branch", as far as I know. Do you think Kadokawa will risk using one of their podcasts to breach a contract with cover?

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>>5866188
>most of the agencies you see don't even have a real office
Even Cover corp is a tiny little 1245 square foot floorspace on the 3rd floor of a basic office building, and that was what they had back when they were still just a software company. They never grew with hololive as it didn't require much staff in the office beyond what they already had.

You step out of the elevator and see the big divider wall with a cubicle area behind it, plus the board room. The two doors at the end are just fire exits. Two tiny bathrooms, and a little kitchen space as well. The back wall is a balcony with some AC units and a smoker area.

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>>5948063
The divider wall is very nice at least

>> No.5948323

>>5948063
Sorry correction, those are just the closets for server rack, etc. The fire exit is on the opposite wall.

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>>5946132
>He doesn't know

>> No.5950727

>>5880032
Managers are not "management". A manager is essentially someone who supports a talent by handling backroom stuff.

>> No.5951019

>>5884084
>every other member has a good portrait
>doodleChama
look at him go

>>5942177
she needs to push that Gura collab to get those numbers up

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