/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>58368285
It's really no wonder she's the most hated Holomem by far, it's funny seeing last samurai defend her for being a nip while they crucify ENs for much less.

>Most hated
A bunch of incels on /vt are not representative of the fandom

>>58368285
She is the least qualify to speak about it, no convincing power when she used the Hololive brand for self gains.

>>58368970
There's nothing wrong with that.

>>58368285
How I wanted for her to know english and browse through 4chan, she's the best person that falls to bait, I wonder where hololive found such retard

>>58368285
God the nips are gonna rip her apart

>>58368929
>EOP retard
most of the antis are JP, it's pretty valid too
, not just because "males".

>>58368285
Why does she sounds so salty

>>58368929
>/vt/
You forgot /jp/, 5ch and futaba

>>58368285
>there must be a reason why it's a different branch
Money?

>>58368996
There is nothing wrong with hating her for it then.

>>58369017
Just find any young girl and most will be naive and gullible.

>>58368929
the numbers speak for themselves, she had the biggest potential but her potential fans

>>58369098
That's the secret. She's always salty.

>>58368285
Sounds like fake translation. So what did Niji do now? Oh wait didn't they nuke their Vtuber Academy

>>58369203
retard, it's from a long time hololive clipper.

>>58369203
Finally, is this a fabled "La+ defender"?

>>58369098
Because she's projecting. She has repeatedly tried to break out of the Hololive mold but gets shit on every time she does so.

>>58369252
Source then? Or you're faking it since it sounds very much like it could be our old buddy starting shit again.

>>58369104
How would that work man

>>58369368
it's literally on the first page of holodex, god fucking EOP retard low IQ, please kys.

>>58369384
Aiming for a slightly different audience to please the sharholders, Holizontal is there for that too.

>>58368285
They hated her because she told the truth

>>58369525
Clippers aren't on Holodex you retard

>>58368285
>standardized formula
Just like any chuuba who doesn't fit the standard gets fired right La+?

>>58369711
Like this sir, I did the needful
https://holodex.net/channel/UCENwRMx5Yh42zWpzURebzTw/clips

>>58369017
She'd be lost among the sea of sisters here, get it lol SEA, I feel like I've already made that shitty joke before...

>>58369711
OMG how retarded are you? Go buy rope now retard, waste of time on you.

Laplus is more based everyday just for pissing (you) off

This retard. Why can't she just quietly move on and do her own thing like festival?

You antis still at it?

>>58369711
you unironically might be too mentally deficient to argue with the retards on this cesspool board

>>58368285
based mental breakdown

>>58368285
They can do whatever the fuck they want already, the thing is that their $$$ gets affected

>>58368285
>They might be some thing different
And if they don't?

laplus was always good. you people hate her for no reason. you're just looking for a reason to hate her even though you know she is right and has always been in the right.

>>58370063
She pays more attention to antis than her fans so yeah

>>58368970
>no convincing power when she used the Hololive brand for self gains.
Why do you care so much for Hololive keeping the same image? Cover is only a corpo and even Yagoo has a similar opinion. Laplus is more vocal with her criticism but many of them are likely tired of the idol formula that Hololive was built on.

>>58370240
Anti is just a huge fan with extra steps desu

>by the way I'll stop streaming and only upload shorts and instead play valo on twitch with ecelebs

ok laplus thank you

>>58368285
>it's my own selfish desire that i wish this unit may break that formula and do something
she should just join Niji instead.

>>58370262
I think the criticism for Laplus is just for trying to break the image constantly. She doesn't like to stream on youtube, she doesn't like to be criticized for sharing with men, doesn't like the idol part either, and it's okay
But why apply to hololive with that mentality? She knew what she was going for, didn't she?

>It's ok when hololive does it
>It's ok when Japan does it
>reeee laplus
which one is it I'm confused

>>58369108
>what they did wasn't wrong
>then its also not wrong for me to hate them for the thing that I admit isn't wrong
???????????

>>58370207
Mmm no? What are you talking about kek

Laplus a shit but saying "stop doomposting over people that just debuted, you fucking spergs" is hardly something get butthurt about. Those girls may not enjoy being an experimental side-branch born from Cover having a schizo episode any more than you do, they don't deserve to be shitposted for it.

>>58368929
So she's seething at EOP antis whose posts she can't even read? On a site she's never been to?

>>58370198
Your ESL is showing

>>58368391
Why would anyone hate her based on that? It's some loaded questions, and the response is justified. You prefer someone that just agrees with you all the time even if you're wrong and fixating on things you shouldn't? Don't answer that.

>>58371085
This but the antis are ESL not EOPs

>>58369135
finish your god damn sentence

>>58368285
>they plan to do a lot of different things
People say this, but is there any actual evidence? They have a generation song, they play games, they do zatsudans. The only thing we haven't seen before is the rakugo girl, but there's no reason she couldn't have done that in JP7.

>>58369711
This post is so retarded im feeling second hand embarrassment from it

>>58369098
because people are trashing the juniors at her company that just started?

>>58370830
Because hololive means money and she wanted money. She was rubbing her RM's self with it when her eceleb friends shat on her fans live and she said nothing in their defence.

>>58368285
maybe lap should stream more

>>58370830
Cover hired Laplus and other Hololive talents that don't care for idols while management pushes for more HoloPro unity. They made Regloss and had them interact with Holostars before their debuts. A huge issue with Hololive is even Yagoo doesn't seem to know what he wants for the company.

>>58372750
He just does what other companies do even if they are less successful, because I guess that how he lucked out on hololive.

>>58368285
BASED LAPLUS OWNING THE DRAMANIGGERS

she barely fucking streams and whenever does it's collab shit or esport shit so whatever

>>58369252
>A long time clipper
So... Otakmori is a long time clipper

>>58368285
this is a reasonable stance
what's the problem?

>>58372972
I'm not sure who exactly she's owning here since literally everyone is confused about what's supposed to make Dev_is any different from the main branch.

>spams fps
>spams outside collabs
>viewership tank
ironic coming from her

>>58373227
If only the question wasn't the voice in her head that would be reasonable but saddly she is just going schyzo and there is around nothing reasonable about it.

>>58368285
I don't know why the likes of ame, mori, laplus, etc. think collabing with men is some revolutionary idea when 90% of other vtubers do it. Just join any other corporation

>>58373190
that would explain why the pussy didn't want to say what the channel was, but I also saw in another thread they have a new channel but noone replied if it was true or not, so would you tell me which channel is it? and how people know it's that? I have Otakmori blocked and made youtube not recommend it to me again but I had this supposed alt one recommended

>>58373929
they can do this shit any time anyways. they like milking the drama like they have to own their fans instead of just staying in their lane doing their thing like towa.

>>58374192
Yeah, nobody gives a shit when Fubuki or Sora do it because they accept the costs. These girls want to do it and also demand you to follow them.

>>58373929
why people are still surprised at male collabs when Hololive used to do male collabs before and even also after they started doing idol stuff, not even Yagoo calls it an idol company anymore

>>58370262
> Why do you care so much for Hololive keeping the same image? Cover is only a corpo and even Yagoo has a similar opinion
Anon, you don’t get it. That’s why anons do this, because Cover is a corpo. That means cover only has anons’ favor so long as it dors what we want. If it changes and becomes something we don’t like, we literally have no reason to care if it goes bankrupt.
Fans don’t support a corpo, they tolerate a corpo as long as it does what they want. This is true of all fandoms.
If Hololive mixed genders, Yagoo could get sniped by terrorists and I’d just shrug and say “I don’t care”, while I’d mourn him if the branches were still separate.

>>58369553
I sort of understand why they will go for a different audience, they can see how their growth has stagnated for a while now. Also, as you said, we can't eliminate the will of the fucking shareholders in this.

>>58373929
>Just join any other corporation
They want to have their cake and eat it too. In their ideal world they'll be able to have the get rich quick blue dorito next to their names, while also retaining the freedoms of a Twitch indie.

>>58368285
Lapu-chan is known for having routine woman moments

>>58374468
The only thing I'm surprised at is that hololive still gets members that get dumbfounded when they become shitters after they do stuff most of the hololive fanbase doesn't enjoy

lol JP comments are roasting her ass basically saying "don't use the new gen as your own personal platform vent."

I still like La+. I can't ever really get angry at her. Maybe it's because I find her incredibly cute and attractive, and it clouds my judgement. But I can't get angry even with all the baitposts about her.

>>58369553
Watch as the new girls proceed to do the exact same shit and pander to unicorn because that's how you make the big money that allows you to retire early.

>>58369059
>>58369102
yet she still thriving, I'm glad she decided to shut off mentally handicapped person like you

>>58377011
She isn't. Her carreer almost died before her hiatus. Was the least watched JP and was getting beaten by IDs.
Pandering to the JP E-celeb crowd got her a new audience. But as we daw with Mori and Ollie, that audience gets bored of people eventually.

>>58376372
Yep
Certainly feels like she makes some bad mistakes.
But she was nice to my oshi so I like her.

>>58377011
>Thriving
Lap is by far the least popular in her gen, even Lui has surpassed her by this point. Fact of the matter is that she is just a washed up, wasted potential has-been. If she wants to waste away the remainder of her career doing this and switching full-time to Twitch, then so be it

>>58368285
more bitchy than ever

>>58368285
>questions that have nothing to do with telling them to quit
>"don't tell them to quit!!!!!!!!"
I think she's projecting.

>>58368285
If this doesn't solidify ReGloss as the male/homocollaber branch, i don't know what does.

>>58378405
Why would words of washed up, good for nothing, lazy holo, that is universally disliked solidify anything?

>>58368285
Do Dev_is want her to go on some crusade on their behalf? I more got the impression they wanted to ignore the confusion and just prove people wrong by putting out good content

>>58378651
Specifically because their coming from that washed lazy holo. Her even doing this says enough.

>>58370297
>Go on e celeb board
>Complain about e celebs playing with e celebs
Yikes

>>58378872
I kinda disagree, it's in her favor for them to be homocollabers. Idk, we'll just wait and see, I'm EOP, so I'll watch them once in a blue moon, so it's doesn't really matter to me, but I still wouldn't want that I guess.

It was titled a based opinion on reddit. And whatever reddit might call based gets me terminally ill.

>>58377649
Please let her be. The fastest she’s from my oshi and other holomems, the better.

>>58368285
virtue signalling: Hololive™ edition

God I hope La+ lurks 4chan threads too. I want her to know how much I want to cum inside her

>>58368285
They should only ever hire hags from now on. Any younger and they get ideas. Women shouldn't have ideas.

>>58368285
She's literally right though?

>>58368285
There's nothing wrong with those questions, and there's nothing wrong with what she said, apart from her telling people to shut up and not ask questions. Anyone telling them to quit is an anti and by giving them attention she's going to have then redouble their efforts. Normal people are just confused as to why they are trying to rebrand at all, as people don't want what they like to be ruined or changed. Which is understandable, I've seen so many hobbies over the years just just become something that the fans don't want and then they die because they tried to change for mainstream appeal, and the mainstream only has enough attention span for at maximum 1 year of growth and then they drop it for the next shiny thing. That's what people are worried about.

>>58379740
I don't remember making this post.

>>58379740
It'd be the best if she translates each message and comes across this one and starts masturbating her little cunny to it.

>>58368285
The "Gura Killer" Curse

reminder that none of the Laplus antis here speak Japanese.

>>58368996
Kill yourself.

>>58370262
>many of them are likely tired of the idol formula that Hololive was built on.
>joins idol company
>wants to change it from the inside to not be an idol company
literal SJW behaviour

>>58371719
Maybe Lap should cover Usseewa given how much she likes to tell people to shut up.

>>58381737
KEK

>>58373929
>mori out of nowhere
rent free

Schizos will shitpost about holo members all day every day but if one of them says fuck off, retard they get offended and start pouting

>>58381666
Rent free

>>58373929
There wasn't any other corporation when Mori and Ame joined

>>58368285
>asks the fanbase to shut the fuck up
Infinitely based.

>>58370262
I like hololive because I know what I'll get from it, of course there's some rotten oranges inside but you can expect a certain pattern from them, if they lose that why the fuck I would care about them besides the ones I know from years ago? That's why niji has some of the biggest vtubers and 2views at the same time, people don't know what to expect from a niji, it's basically an indie with a contract

>>58377011
She was the most popular of her gen in the debut, EOPs are saying Gura's killer and JOPs are saying that Pekora found her rival and now she gets beat by fucking Gozaru that both sides thought would be the absolute rant of the gen

>>58368285
>There must be a reason why it's a different branch!

>>58368285
Someone already said it but that reads a lot like projection since she's tried (badly) to do things outside the normal scope herself.

>>58383768
ayup

>>58383652
No

>>58369340
She should realize she isn't good enough to break out of anything. Playing FPS badly with whatever the fuck dudes she wants to hang out with isn't gonna help her get famous.

>>58372972
>based dramanigger prime owning the dramaniggers

>>58377011
You're English is so good Lapu!

>>58383768
Didn't she only start publicly doing that after japs found out she was spamming games off-stream with twitch celebs?

>>58383558
I thought Iroha *was* the runt of the gen. I didn’t know she surpassed Laplus finally. No, of course I don’t watch HoloX except for Koyori.

she's evolved into lapradoddle midnight

>>58371153
The bitch is just erecting strawmen to knock down and feeling smug about it. She doesn't deserve any pity points from anyone for the obvious virtue signaling.

>>58385032
>You're
dude

>>58368285
coming from La+ this statement is useless since it just feels like she is obsessing over negative comments or antis

>>58368285
jp hate devis?

>>58385689
And implying she is also a trailblazing with her Twitch move. This is all ego for her.

>>58368285
The fact that literally none of the girls in any of the branches even know what the fuck DEV_IS is even supposed to be but are still contractually obligated to shill it is hilarious

>>58369098
She is a terminally online ego searcher who doesn't get off of 5ch

>>58368285
Yup, she's worse than Mori and Kronii could ever be. It's good that she's self-aware about her own selfishness at least.

>>58370830
She wanted money and fame, she was honest about this at debut.

>>58370962
Ririka calls herself an idol, she told she has no romantic experience and she's a gamer. She's a 100% trying to be a holo and trying to be gachikoi friendly. She even had a stream to explain how she is because maybe people might think she's a gyaru based on how her model looks when she isn't one (and gyarus tend to be related to parties and night clubs so of course she wanted to set that straight).
Imagine you apply to hololive and they tell you "well, you won't be gen 7 but we have this weird experiment going on that we don't even know what it is about. Wanna try it?" and of fucking course anyone would've taken it.
Then you have raden who's an alcoholic smoker art schizo who loves slot machines.
It looks like this branch has less restrictions (at least idol-wise) but I think some of the members are gonna build their own brand based on regular hololive despite of said "freedom". Time will tell of course.

>>58368391
I defend her because she's a great live performer. I defend Bae and Ollie for the same reasons.
Come to think of it, that's the same reason people defended Chris Brown. So i guess I'd forgive them up to and including beating the shit out of Rihanna.

>>58369017
She was already known as a talented singer/dancer and performer, but also a headcase. Cover thought they could tardrangle her, but they were wrong.

>>58368285
So she wants for the new gen to be something different to own le bad antis even if nobody wants that decision and in the end it fuck the girls careers in hololive?
At least menheras like Matsuri kill themselves slowly alone, not bringing others down with them

>>58386723
>Then you have raden who's an alcoholic smoker art schizo who loves slot machines.
You have no idea how fun these people can be on stream. The only way she could be better is if she's also into horse and boat racing.

>>58369098
Because, she is. She can't help, but argue on the internet with anonymous antis, whether it's twitter, youtube comment section or 5ch.

>>58386723
Their only fanbase at the moment is within the Holobox, they aren't an independent branch at the moment no matter what anyone in the company says. They have been promoted and treated like Gen 7 in Hololive this entire time.

>>58370207
if she speaks english and in holoen instead bet you and many others in this board will shit her harder than other en girls lol

>>58370262
>but many of them are likely tired of the idol formula that Hololive was built on
Hololive was not built on being an idol company you fucking retard, they got popular because of it
They started as a shittier version of nijisanji and would constantly attempt to leech off of them with collabs and covers of their songs until a few months into 2nd gen where the direction of the company completely changed and they struck gold with idol shit

Idol culture is the ONLY reason cover is even making any fucking money, the holostars barely even cover the costs of paying the talents and management

DEV_IS being an experimental investor project just sounds like a terribad idea
DEV_IS can only be bad, it's like HoloCN or any of the failed nijisanji branches, don't fuck with what already works.

>are the girls going to be doing kson tier IRL streams?
It'll just cause the hololive girls to get pressured into doing it.
>are they going to be lewdtubers?
Youtube is incredibly fucky about this shit, hololive summer was as far as the hornets nest should be poked
>are they going just be a vsinger group?
Because that worked so successfully for AZKi and IRyS?

There is zero good ideas going into DEV_IS and it's why there is zero interest in them on the japanese side

>>58386621
Yeah, but she hides it behind the "kusogaki" mask, just compare her and Shion, there's a stark difference, Laplus put her real opinion in her character quite a bit, so she sounds like a two faced bitch instead

>>58386999
>There is zero good ideas going into DEV_IS
There is zero ideas going into it period beyond the group music channel. They aren't doing anything else different fron any other new Hololive gen.

>>58386723
>Raden who's an alcoholic smoker art schizo who loves slot machines
Fucking hell, I dodged a bullet, I was thinking of watching her since I seen some anons compliment her, but thank God I didn't

>>58386999
It was third gen not second, but yeah you got it mostly right.

>>58387209
>beyond the group music channel
Like Blue Journey?
Because that worked really well

This is what I'm saying, there is nothing good from this branch separation, all it did was kill their debuts because JPniki think they are homolovers even if they aren't

>>58386848
I have nothing against her despite how articulated my thoughts. She's been 100% honest since day 1. If you have any expectations that's on you but she showed her red flags pretty openly and I respect it. It's not like laplus who larped as an otaku who didn't want to collab with males until she was found out chasing e-celeb dick who shits on her fans, doesn't give a shit about hololive and talks shit about her senpais.
>>58387327
She might be a good girl though. If she's respectful towards her senpais, her fans and actually puts in some effort in hololive I think it's gonna be fine. She's also not in the idol branch so it makes it easier for me to not set her to my idol standards. Of course I would have wanted an standard idol branch but this is what we got so I'm taking that at least she's been honest about herself.

>>58371235
Playing devil's advocate, so long as the dev_is channel exists/isn't truly rebranded to the regloss unit channel then at the very least the project is still ongoing and they still have something in the pipeline to try and distinguish the dev_is brand from the main holobrand.

>>58386999
>Hololive was not built on being an idol company
lol, the whole fucking vtuber industry is built upon Ai-chan's model of virtual idol. If anything Hololive was one of the most explicit about it from the get-go.

>>58387725
Should have had 3d models ready to go from the start and make the music channel 3d focused with musical guests appearing and variety shows and the like. It would have given the music branch a different, cooler vibe but they didn't even bother with that.

>>58386736
>Ollie, Bae, La+...
Holy shit you have horrible taste. Please get a vasectomy and stop your rotten genes from ever having a chance of spreading.

>>58371235
raden is an alcoholic who smokes a lot and play slot machines. She 100% wouldn't be able to say that openly were she in hololive. At least her alone isn't cut off for hololive's main branch so it makes sense to put her into another branch if they want to have her.

>>58387996
>If anything Hololive was one of the most explicit about it from the get-go
How fucking dumb are you, the girls themselves literally explained they weren't an idol company and then one day they were and had managers carefully tardwrangling them

Choco is the obvious fucking example of this, because she revealed she had multiple boyfriends in the past and has dating issues, they couldn't retcon her into an idol like the others, so when the holocaust happened and choco couldn't do her old lewdtuber shit, she existed in this permanent debuff state where she couldn't be an idol and she couldn't do the lewd shit that was her entire appeal

https://youtu.be/GtJsYMPEF1c?t=42

>>58388412
Now name your oshis anon.

>>58388672
>ignores Sora's existence
Sure the L2D gens were modeled after Nijisanji initially, but saying Hololive didn't start as an idol company is astoundingly retarded.

>>58389042
Sora HAS NEVER been an idol
What you are experiencing is tourist syndrome, where you misunderstand certain words and what daisenpai conveys.

Sora was Cover's live tech demo girl for their office equipment.
Cover existed first and foremost as a 3d VR tech company that tried to sell VR zoom calls to investors.
Sora was the mascot for that business.

>>58388672
Literally in her first stream Sora said she wants to be an idol

>>58389258
Anon please, she was a literal fucking Kizuna Ai clone. Being a tech demo girl doesn't prevent her from being a (virtual) idol too.

>>58389258
Sora paid/borrowerd their equipment and Yagoo wanted to get involved as well, she literally said that, maybe she was lying? Idk, but it's better than relying on headcanons

>>58389438
See >>58389258
Wants to be an idol is different from what she actually was.
She always wanted to be an idol growing up.

But the job she got at Covercorp was the equivalent of pic related.

By the time Hololive changed into an Idol company, Sora, had already collabed over 2 dozen times with men, which is also why she continues to do it to this day.
She has always been the brand ambassador for covercorp, but she is not the idol of hololive.

>>58387639
>JPniki think they are homolovers even if they aren't
That's also because of holizontal. Cover, out nowhere, started this fps torture that only put fans and most girls into distress (everyone outside of the valorant zoomers who play fps with males offstream and towa).
Lui had to explain management pressured her into doing the O2 collab, the EN girl said the same and nene was the worst case as fans even told her they were leaving when she started to play valorant for the sponsorship stream (and this collab was girls only). That's how grim is to play fps: those games are fucking tinder and fans know it. It's obvious if you're gachikoi you will feel bad if you see your oshi using tinder on stream. Nene had multiple menhera meltdowns over this where she told her fans her manager was pushing her into going fps whore route.
Now fastf-orward two weeks later you get a new gen but it's actually not a new gen but "something different". Of course any regular holo fan with a brain will be skeptical towards what "something different" and "a different branch" entails.

>>58389674
>Anon please, she was a literal fucking Kizuna Ai clone
Yes because Cover initially created her off of a generic template.
Anyone could be Sora was the tech Cover was selling to corporations for their zoom calls.
>>58389694
>maybe she was lying?
Sora wasn't lying about wanting to be an idol growing up, but she never was an idol in hololive

Sometimes things line up with the goals you had as a kid, but Sora was never called an idol and the first 2 years at the company.

>>58389923
I wouldn't hate Holizontal as much if they weren't shilling western crap like activisionblizzard

>>58389923
Good try eops but stop using shitty rrat generated by numberniggers and catalogfags as your truth. It's not even close to what nene and lui said.

>>58388733
Finana
Mysta
Vox

>>58389806
To say the true just wanting to be an idol makes you an idol, a bad singer, dancer and without experience trying to get better is the favorite type of idol to idol fags(at least the japanese idols)

>>58390121
I don't play fps and I don't know anything about blizzard so I can't relate to the blizzard hate. But I do hate fps in hololive. They are hololive's cancer. Every single male yab comes from fucking fps or from people from that circle. Laplus, ayame, shion, matsuri, towa, rushia, mel to say a few confirmed. Every single time is the fucking fps tinder.
Then you have the ones who are dragged down to that drama because they are close to people who play them, like nene. And then the anti schizos trying to make up shit relating holos with fps streamers.
Every. Single. Time. I hate those fucking games so much is unreal.
>>58390512
learn japanese and watch streams

>>58388733
Botan
Hajime
Marine

>>58368285
Oh fuck, male collab incoming?

>>58389806
>>58390036
Another brain-dead EOP with their bastardized definition of idol "can't Collab with males", Sora already had 2 original songs before Roboco debut, she has done multiple concert stuff and already had an album and her first one-man live in 2019, how the fuck it's not an idol ? What is your definition of idol ?

>>58368996
Selfish cunt couldn't stop insulting her senpai to make herself feel better

>>58390036
>Yes because Cover initially created her off of a generic template
But it wasn't a generic template, it was a virtual idol template, played by a girl with idol ambitions, is the thing.

>>58386920
Wait, isn't that just the same as mikecat?

>>58368285
That's a lot of words to say "I don't know". What was even the point of this?

>>58368285
why are holos so bored of what they do? they always talk about wanting to do something different.

>>58368285
>tried to funnel fans into RM
>tried to create an utaite group but it collapses almost immediately
>the fans are at fault
Laplus is her own enemy

Laplus and all her retarded fans should group suicide. The only good part about her is her model. Literally everything else about her is absolutely worthless.

>>58390672
>learn jp and watch streams

You know it's funny to see eops or people with poor jp come out with badly translated shit and then filling the gaps with their own headcannon. I dislike the homos but seeing people going on a 'moral crusade' when it's not even what the holomems said just rubs me the wrong way.

>>58391359
I forgot that kek

>>58391374
Her voice is kino for her model too, it's a pity she only uses it to fuck up

>>58368285
Man I miss the good old days when Lap was the /hlg/ favorite while Chloe was the one being antiposted to deatg. The threads would always go twice as fast whenever Lap streams due to chatposting. She has such immense gosling following that even rmposting was commonplace to the point that her rm streams received more discussions than the the rest of holox members combined. Shame she went full retard.

So /vt/, which one is the lesser evil here? A graduation is in order I feel like. It's been a while.

>>58392155
Shiori hasn't done anything to make me dislike her yet, if she does I'll jump on the hate train with everyone else but until then I'm keeping an open mind
Laplus has done many things to make me not like her

>>58392155
This isn't comparable, you'd have to change Shiori for Mori and yet it wouldn't be a fair match

>>58369340
why did lap applied for hololive when she doesn't want to be there apparently? That never-ending menhera saga.

>>58386723
>alcoholic art schizo who loves slot machines
She’s perfect..

>>58393245
she just want money and a name to be able to have male attention

>>58392155
I really don't get the Shiori hate from you fags. She's a fucking saint in comparison to that retarded womanchild. I could only imagine how much worse the shitposting and antiposting surrounding Laplus would be if she was an EN.

>>58391496
Well I speak japanese so I know what holomems say. I rarely watch clips and when I do I watch the jp ones as they aren't forged and have context. Everything I said is perfectly verifiable for free (only nene's statement is not since it comes from a members post and from a stream she did after nepolabo's live that she privated).

OP did a good job by cropping out parts of the clip to incite a negative response from people who only care about drama. She's responding to the negative criticism people were giving on twitter because of the lack of an understanding of what ReGLOSS even was in the first place by Cover's part, as well as the follow up negativity of people worrying about the direction ReGLOSS was possibly going because of the new girls interacting with the homos on twitter. It wasn't in the clip, but Laplus also said to stop comparing the new girls to existing holo members because it was just being straight up rude since they are their own person. In terms of breaking the formula, we're already seeing that with Raden; she doesn't plan to play much games because most games make her dizzy, she admitted she can't sing, and her image of being a drunkard and a heavy smoker is something we're not used to in terms of what we've come to know what is a holo's "structure". Despite that, people are loving it and are interested to see what she'll bring to the table. Essentially, Laplus is sticking her neck out for her kouhais by saying to not jump the gun and give the girls a chance. All the while, you're shit talking her for looking out for the new kids. Never change /vt/, have fun gossiping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQAMNDyu54U

>>58394496
no matter how much you try to defend her she's a fps whore who doesn't care about hololive, only joined for the money and clout to meet male e-celebs and makes statements where she's either disrespecting her senpais or hinting they have boyfriends.
She only wants to use this new branch as scapegoats to change hololive so she can be the whore she wants to be without facing any backlash.

>>58392155
If Laplus was in holoEN she would be more hated than Hitler kek
And I don't even like Shiori

>>58394496
>In terms of breaking the formula, we're already seeing that with Raden; she doesn't plan to play much games because most games make her dizzy, she admitted she can't sing, and her image of being a drunkard and a heavy smoker is something we're not used to in terms of what we've come to know what is a holo's "structure"
Literally nothing of what you mentioned represents something new for Hololive besides the heavy smoker part, which SURELY isn't the reason why Cover decided to make a new fucking branch.

>>58393590
it's because Laplus is a better entertainer. the more positives someone has, the more people will overlook the negatives.

>>58394496
meds, lapschizo

>>58368285
Dark psychic menheramon

>>58368285
>acts rude
>fails to give meaningful answers
>projects her own wishes onto the new hires
>makes up schizo straw men
What the fuck is her problem?

>>58395176
>the more positives someone has, the more people will overlook the negatives
Or you cretins just simply don't speak jap. Lap gets antiposted to death in JP and your argument falls apart when her negatives far outweighs her positives. For every decent stream she did, you would then be bombarded with retarded takes and decisions out if nowhere.

>>58392155
Shiori's worst crime is just being an autist
Antis painted a target on her back because of the debut and never let go even though she's done nothing controversial so far

>>58368285
Stop calling this bitch “Lap” fucking hell.

>>58368285
N*ok give laplus bad advice
Captcha:
RMB4D

>>58396356
you guys don't speak Japanese either, most of her previous "yabs" that were shared around here were based on mistranslations.

>>58399926
No ammount of mistranslations can justify her being on 5ch fighting anons while she barely streams and jump important events like the gen anniversary to be caught playing fps with a fag on the same day

>>58392344
>Shiori hasn't done anything to make me dislike her yet
She/her

She's right and this board is full of schizo antis who are eager to see them fail.

>>58368285
Laplus needs to shut the fuck up and stop being a lazy whore. What a waste of good cunny model.

>>58370262
Yagoo is a fucking retard who stumbled into success yet does his best to fuck it up
I really don‘t understand why people worship him

>>58368285
is this the new ollie?

>>58390783
>Botan
Imagine lacking this much self awareness
Stupid fuckwad

>>58389806
Retardchama...if you only know "idols" only from Love Live and IMas, don't talk as if you know shit
You can go look up AKB48, NGZK46, Morning Musume, etc to see whether these idols interact with males for their job or not

>>58389258
Do your reps instead of spreading misinformation

>>58368285
Laplace should had accepted Korone's offer of cutting her horn, now it's too late and the horn is pressing her amygdala and making her more violent and anxious

>>58401548
Because he's a saviorfag

>>58401548
Yagoo is worshiped because the competition treats it's members like disposable slaves so he looks like a saint in comparison

>>58389438
Only Sora
The rest? They don't

>>58392155
At least Lap is not straight

>>58370207
>you're just looking for a reason to hate
I've been reading this phrase so much lately. Is this the current way people cope with something they like being disliked?

>>58399926
I can't believe even the other jp girls were led astray by those nasty mistranslations

>>58404131
>Only Sora
That's like saying it's only the Hololive itself

>>58389042
It's true that the creation of Hololive is the result of domino effect from Sora's desire to be a virtual idol
But Hololive itself wasn't idol-centric in the beginning, they only started to be idol-centric around the time Sankisei debuted
Not minding individual like Choco, the existence of Hololive Gamers is a proof that they aren't idol-centric from the beginning
Do you know why Hololive Gamers have their own logo?

>>58376156
Only in your delusions EOP retard

>>58368285
I will probably never watch Dev_is but Laplus is right about everything here.

>>58405394
obviously because mio deserves her own logo

>>58405394
NTA but it feels like you guys are just arguing semantics, Hololive at the beginning was not only not idol centric they are not in any centric they are not even a vtuber group, it's obvious at first they just trying to survive before focusing on direction and stuff, if you're saying like they are as if suddenly out of nowhere change their direction then that's not true because it's more like they only focus on their direction as a group later, simply following their root (Sora), even tho despite being idol company they basically still the same in how much freedom they give their talent to build their own image brand, most of the talent only do HoloFes and some rare idol project like Bloom etc with only HoloFes being mandatory

>>58368285
She is doing 0 favor to regloss by doing that, if you were throwing a rrat she is trying to sabote them i would believe you, if there is any anon interested.

>>58386999
>covers of their songs
[citation needed]

I will never hate La+. I like her too much.

>>58391359
Classic woman moment, never admits her own fault

>>58391359
Mel probably strangled the group in the womb with her deep connections lol. get fucked lap

Why can't everyone who wants nijisanji culture fuck off to nijisanji?

>>58368391
>it's funny seeing last samurai defend
completely fabricated.
theres a reason mori is called EN lapras by 5ch

>>58387725
Well if they were under Holopro rather than hololive I would expect a male or mixed gen at some point niji EN style now it kinda feels like another half-hearted attempt at nijification where some of the members feel more like fem JP nijis but this girlsband branding doesn't really fit it.

>>58388447
Drinking can be cute but I remember smoking was always a big no-no for idols, then again I'm not sure if JP niki actually take this part seriously or as another eccentric character trait

I'm watching Ririka play DDLC and my god, she's such an emotional dork.

>>58400449
>defends hololive from nijiniggers even in her free time
>somehow that‘s bad

>>58417668
Is DDLC really that much of a debuff? I feel bad.

>>58418838
There are a million holomems by now and not watch reason to watch her over the others
Also yeah she‘s years too late to play the game

what is this thread lmao uaahaahaa

>>58419095
Other ones get 20-40k ccv, well atleast Hajime and Raden the ones I saw. I guess it's combination of things, time, game choice, personality etc.
Love her though, but I won't check most of the streams since it's just listening to her cute noises, because I'm EOP.

>>58392155
Shiori is on Jap-sama watch list, so I wouldn't worry about her.

>>58416609
>mixed gen
That would be a death knell, either for the branch or Hololive as a whole depending on who they collabed with.

>>58368285
hope she enjoys her new dad

>>58393245
she should have joined Niji instead.

>>58368285
>defends her juniors who are getting hate for no reason
>somehow this is a bad thing
Calling out haters will never not be based. Retards think they can shit fling all day and never get called out, and when they do they're victims lol

>>58420903
I mean, if the mixed gen is under Dev_is and not under Holo brand then it should be fine, no? Holo will continue to do their things and so is Dev_is. If we have our own mixed gens then Niji will have nothing special left to brag about anymore.

>>58396262
being 19

>>58422336
shes calling out the voices in her head, not the haters

>>58422410
mixed gens have never done well. the only ones who want them also never watch streams

>>58373190
Ha

>>58372972
>t. Beatdead

>>58395176
More like the threadreaders infesting this board are all EOPs and ESLs so naturally Shiori is an easier punching bag.

qrd on why laplus is so hated? with sources if possible

>>58422336
Well since based nowoday unhironicaly is used when retarded imature brat do stupid shit that will benefit no one i guess you can call that based.
There is a non negligeance chance that now, after her gen, regloss will also be added to the list of people who ignore her because she is a liability.
>>58422410
Anon, even niji couldn't make mixed gen work, nobody will ever be able to make it work.

>>58427732
kayfabe is real to japanese

bweeeeeeh so strong keep riling up those haters Lap-chan! You'll eventually live your dream of being free on social media platforms like tiktok then you'll finally achieve your dream of dancing the latest trends with your boyfriend without scrutiny

>>58368285
even the ledditors tore into this post/clip. virtually every top line comment in that thread is negative and that's very rare over there. the post had to be locked.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/16gtrph/chad_la_with_her_based_opinion/

>>58430013
they didnt like holozontal either. If even reddit, a site created specifically to created groupthink and mindless yes men, is turning on you, you're probably fucking things up

>>58370063
>you [person i disagree with] still criticizing her when she does something new to be worth criticizing?
why, yes, they are, apologist-chama.

>>58386723
btw for anyone reading this, it's almost entirely false re: ririka. she addressed looking like a gyaru but didn't actually say she wasn't one, just that her model made her look MORE like one. if you actually understand the language you see she does have some of the traits, otherwise the model would have made no sense
myth busted.

>>58430340
It is often said that when plebbit and /here/ sentiments align, someone has fucked up big time. A lot of the time they are diametrically opposed, even if only to say we're not like plebbit or for plebbit to 'own the 4chan incels' or whatever the fuck they say.

>>58369098
She is unironically a femanon..

>>58368391
>most hated Holomem by far
That wopuld be Mori. You just dont notice because only retards like her and only retards complain on internet about vtubers they dont like.

>>58431496
Imagine thinking any holo member is hated

>>58369711
Why do faggots like you make certain statements about shit they don't even know about

>>58370207
Classic /vt/. The only thing anons need to dislike something is for someone to repetedly tell them they should, because that's 4chan culture or some shit

>>58431496
no, it's overwhelmingly laplus (of the non-homos, at least).
she fucks up so badly she gets everyone in on it in a way even mori doesn't
see:
>>58430013
>>58430340
>>58431288

>>58431545
Oh anon. I would say you lack critical knowledge but that would be like saying that an ocean has a lot of water in it.

>>58431582
or, you know, actual reasons.. which lap has given vastly more than anyone else in the company with a vagina.

>>58368285
Rushia all over again.
Can this bitch just shut up and stream more instead?

>>58431582
That's just the human nature, how many people hate an anime or a game without ever watching/playing, why do you think game reviews and youtubers opinions are so powerful?

>>58368285
her fans dont mind

>>58430893
>says "I'm reading people saying I'm a gyaru and honestly this is not me pretending to be introverted, but I'm actually an otaku! I'm an otaku who looks like a gyaru who's sweet with otakus!"
>I'm somehow lying.
You filthy subhuman trash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4n34sOtfPA

>>58431589
its truly inspiring how she got everybody to agree she's a retarded zoomer who needs to stop giving her antis attention

>>58436498
Based
Btw, asians that invented bullet chat should get a bullet in their heads